NationStates Jolt Archive


Fall of Communism, Birth of a Nation

Slebira
28-07-2005, 16:13
Today, The Communist Government of Slebira was overthrown by the people. The nation after 50 year of Communist rule held it's first election, electing the Slebiran Nationalist Party, and Victor Peinkoff has it's first Chancellor. Mr. Alexander Haffraise, Mr. Peinkoff's running mate was elected Vice-Chancellor. The new nation is looking for international help.
Hallad
28-07-2005, 16:26
We congratulate you on having your first elections. Just what help were you looking for? The Workers State can provide economic, military, and other forms of aid. Perhaps an embassy exchange is in order?

The Commissariat of Diplomacy
The Halladi Workers Republic
Torontia
28-07-2005, 16:29
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Slebira

The Republic of Torontia welcomes the overthrow of the communist regime and the victory of the Slebiran Nationalist Party (SNP).

Torontia understands the evil threat that communism poses to the world and that it must be destroyed in ALL nations.

Torontia would like to ask Slebira if it intends to privatise it's industries and to sell it's resources on the international market?

Torontian corporations are VERY interested in any possible investments in Slebira.

Torontia also wishes to aid the nation of Slebira against ANY possible threats and to discuss an alliance between our nations.

Torontia will offer Slebira the following:

*700 million USD

*Economists to help transform the Slebiran economy away from communism to capitalism.

Torontia will also offer military aid, free of charge:

*100,000 M-16 assault rifles

*10 million rounds of ammunition

*500,000 hand grenades

*500 anti-aircraft guns

*1000 SAM-7 anti-aircraft missiles

*10,000 RPG-7 anti-tank rocket launchers

*200 M-60 tanks

*500 M-113 APCs

*50 F-18 jet fighters

*70 F-15 jet fighters

*100 AH-64 'Apache' attack helicopters

*500 UH-1 helicopters

Torontia hopes you accept these offers and for us to unite in an alliance.

President Paul Kaufman
A Freed Tibet
28-07-2005, 16:32
yet again this shows capatilism's obsession with killing. DOWN WITH CAPATILISM! CHINA OUT OF TIBET!
Slebira
28-07-2005, 16:34
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Slebira

The Republic of Torontia welcomes the overthrow of the communist regime and the victory of the Slebiran Nationalist Party (SNP).

Torontia understands the evil threat that communism poses to the world and that it must be destroyed in ALL nations.

Torontia would like to ask Slebira if it intends to privatise it's industries and to sell it's resources on the international market?

Torontian corporations are VERY interested in any possible investments in Slebira.

Torontia also wishes to aid the nation of Slebira against ANY possible threats and to discuss an alliance between our nations.

Torontia will offer Slebira the following:

*700 million USD

*Economists to help transform the Slebiran economy away from communism to capitalism.

Torontia will also offer military aid, free of charge:

*100,000 M-16 assault rifles

*10 million rounds of ammunition

*500,000 hand grenades

*500 anti-aircraft guns

*1000 SAM-7 anti-aircraft missiles

*10,000 RPG-7 anti-tank rocket launchers

*200 M-60 tanks

*500 M-113 APCs

*50 F-18 jet fighters

*70 F-15 jet fighters

*100 AH-64 'Apache' attack helicopters

*500 UH-1 helicopters

Torontia hopes you accept these offers and for us to unite in an alliance.

President Paul Kaufman
We accept the supplies. And a embassy would be nice
Chancellor Peinkoff
A Freed Tibet
28-07-2005, 16:35
oh yeah and: DOWN WITH THE GLOBAL ARMS RACE!
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 16:37
The Commandante is disappionted at the appiontment of a facisist party
Valdamacia
28-07-2005, 16:38
The Fledgling Empire of Valdamacia congratulates you on the fall of the communist regime, may you prosper on your way toward capatalism!
Rurallia
28-07-2005, 16:43
To: Slebira
From: Rurallia

Overthrown.
Slaughtered.

This is describing the leaders of your country. Former leaders. People who made right decisions for the Glorious Communistic Country they led.

I warn you, any further action aganist Communism will be strictly "Disciplined."
Slebira
28-07-2005, 16:45
The Commandante is disappionted at the appiontment of a facisist party
OOC:SNP isn't facist, it's the Anti-Communist party

The SNP has charged it's name to The Social Democratic Party of Slebira. This change occured when Congress passed the Free Ecomony Act, establishing anti-trust laws to prevent companies from controlling entire markets.
Torontia
28-07-2005, 16:50
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Slebira

Torontia has sent the supplies off. Consider the weapons as now part of your armed forces.

We have now set up and embassy in your capital city and ask that you open one in Torontia's capital city, Seattle.

If Slebira is attacked by ANY nation, Torontia will give more weapons free of charge and may even supply troops.

Torontia now includes Slebira in our list of allies.

Once again, Torontian corporations and my own corporation, Kaufman International Investments (KII) would like to set up business in your nation, now that the oppresive communist economic model is gone.

Torontia also would like to offer some advice, that it would be good for international corporations and your economy if you would abolish the minimum wage and trade unions in Slebira. Workers have TOO MANY rights under communism and it is time to show the workers that they must be servents of the free market, not it's masters!

Once again, we congratulate you on your defeat of communism.

President Paul Kaufman
Gorkon
28-07-2005, 16:54
Today, The Communist Government of Slebira was overthrown by the people. The nation after 50 year of Communist rule held it's first election, electing the Slebiran Nationalist Party, and Victor Peinkoff has it's first Chancellor. Mr. Alexander Haffraise, Mr. Peinkoff's running mate was elected Vice-Chancellor. The new nation is looking for international help.

Gorkonian High Command recognises the new government of Slebira, and we wish you every success in the future. Consider our donation of $10 billion a gift, for you to use as you see fit to aid your people.

Good luck to you.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command

I warn you, any further action aganist Communism will be strictly "Disciplined."

No it won't.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command
Torontia
28-07-2005, 16:55
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Slebira

The Republic of Torontia urges Slebira NOT to cave in to communist threats from abroad.

I have offered support and other nations have as well, you are not alone!

Social Democracy is but one step back to communism!

The thing is, you can NEVER compromise with communists, for they are not sane rational human beings, but evil beasts who will NOT stop until they have destroyed EVERYONE!

Give the communists one inch, they will take EVERYTHING!

Stand strong and see off these baseless threats.

President Paul Kaufman
Slebira
28-07-2005, 16:57
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Slebira

Torontia has sent the supplies off. Consider the weapons as now part of your armed forces.

We have now set up and embassy in your capital city and ask that you open one in Torontia's capital city, Seattle.

If Slebira is attacked by ANY nation, Torontia will give more weapons free of charge and may even supply troops.

Torontia now includes Slebira in our list of allies.

Once again, Torontian corporations and my own corporation, Kaufman International Investments (KII) would like to set up business in your nation, now that the oppresive communist economic model is gone.

Torontia also would like to offer some advice, that it would be good for international corporations and your economy if you would abolish the minimum wage and trade unions in Slebira. Workers have TOO MANY rights under communism and it is time to show the workers that they must be servents of the free market, not it's masters!

Once again, we congratulate you on your defeat of communism.

President Paul Kaufman
Trade Unions and Minimum wages, im sorry are important to the economy and must be allowed.

Gregory Pasekoff
Economic Minister
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 17:00
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Slebira

The Republic of Torontia urges Slebira NOT to cave in to communist threats from abroad.

I have offered support and other nations have as well, you are not alone!

Social Democracy is but one step back to communism!

The thing is, you can NEVER compromise with communists, for they are not sane rational human beings, but evil beasts who will NOT stop until they have destroyed EVERYONE!

Give the communists one inch, they will take EVERYTHING!

Stand strong and see off these baseless threats.

President Paul Kaufman

The Commandante finds these comments hilarious. Any nation who imposes McCarthyist attacks on Marxist nations will have Peopleita to deal with.
Hallad
28-07-2005, 17:02
No it won't.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command

Yes it will.

The Commissariat of War
The Halladi Workers Republic
Rurallia
28-07-2005, 17:04
To: Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
From: Rurallia

Oh, herr Commander-in-Chief, we are SOOOO scared of your defense threats.




Seriously. This nation will feel the wrath of Communism in any action is taken. Herr Emperor has made sure of it.

So has the Kommandante of the army. We have a nasty little "Suprise" in store for those we refuse the iron wrath of Communism and Earth entirely.
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 17:07
The Commandante urges Rurallia not to attack any other nation, it will give all other Marxist nations a bad reputaion.
Rurallia
28-07-2005, 17:09
To: Peopleita
From: Rurallia

Peopleita, it is a self-defense threat to defend our Communist brothers in arms. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Slebira
28-07-2005, 17:10
The Democratic Republic of Slebira has proclaim itself a Social Democratic Republic, and has decided to protect the ideas of Capitalism and Democracy. The Federal Police has rounded up all communist supports and the former leaders and will sent them to any nation that wants them.
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 17:11
The Commandante will accept the communist prisoners.
Rurallia
28-07-2005, 17:11
To: Slebira
From: Rurallia

Rurallia will take all of the Communists.
Slebira
28-07-2005, 17:13
The Commandante will accept the communist prisoners.
We will send them on a An-24 to your nation.
Gorkon
28-07-2005, 17:19
Yes it will.

The Commissariat of War
The Halladi Workers Republic

No, it won't. The pair of you are threatening a tiny nation over domestic affairs. Whether it makes you feel big and clever to push around nations with limited defensive capabilities, I don't know. But it makes you a threat to international security, which is an inadvisable position to be in.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command
Torontia
28-07-2005, 17:33
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Gorkon

Torontia stand with you in your desire to stop these evil communist nations and their vile plots to invade or oppress the nation of Slebira.

Once again we offer our support.

Torontian weapons are now FREE OF CHARGE for Slebira and there is a 50% on weapons for Gorkon.

Torontia will now put forward a plea to the international community to group together in alliance to stop this evil act of barbaric communist agression.

Torontia has always maintained that communists are sub-human, evil, bloodthirsty people and it is important that ALL nations NEVER give in to their evil demands and that we work every single day of our lives to ensure the TOTAL destruction of communism, the world over.

President Paul Kaufman
Gorkon
28-07-2005, 18:06
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Gorkon

Torontia stand with you in your desire to stop these evil communist nations and their vile plots to invade or oppress the nation of Slebira.

Once again we offer our support.

Torontian weapons are now FREE OF CHARGE for Slebira and there is a 50% on weapons for Gorkon.

Torontia will now put forward a plea to the international community to group together in alliance to stop this evil act of barbaric communist agression.

Torontia has always maintained that communists are sub-human, evil, bloodthirsty people and it is important that ALL nations NEVER give in to their evil demands and that we work every single day of our lives to ensure the TOTAL destruction of communism, the world over.

President Paul Kaufman

You misunderstand my intentions. As a nation governed by adults, Gorkon has no interest in what economic system any other nations choose to use. Neither myself nor my Generals CARE what economic system other peoples choose to use. Our only problem with anything here is that one group is trying to 'discipline' another over their internal affairs. If Slebira had embarked upon a rampage of anti-communist attacks elsewhere in the world, then we would be on the opposite side right now.

Perhaps if they were killing those who believe in communism without reason I would understand the situation better. But it is quire clearly stated that they are being arrested, and even being allowed to relocate to a communist nation. I would personally disagree with this course of action, but it is none of my business -- that is the sovereign right of Slebira.

I would also suggest to you that communists are not 'sub-human, evil, bloodthirsty people'. They are optimistic people in search of equality for all of humanity; generally peaceful, generally tolerant, perhaps a little naive. Those nations governed by tyrannical dictators are not communists, regardless of what they claim to the contrary. Neither are those nations whom frequently engage in military actions when there is no need -- needless slaughter is the opposite of what communism is all about.

Regardless of what you continue to think of communists, I would at least suggest you use more diplomatic terminology when describing them. Sometimes, a mouth can get one into more trouble than a firearm.

And regarding your offer, it is much appreciated, but I am still expecting a peaceful resolution to this 'crisis' -- I use that term loosely, of course. I assume the sanity of the leaders here is still intact, though assumptions can also get one into more trouble than a firearm.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 18:10
Again the Commandante urges all nations involved here not to take any military action against each other.
Yinzola
28-07-2005, 18:13
Congratulations on your free elections! President Mark Flaxour and the National Congress have approved emergency aid to Slebira if attacked. We will stand beside you against the supporters of tyranny and oppression!
Vice President Lucien Banks

Re: Message from General Jeff Brigance to President Flaxour
Mr. President, the 1st Mechanized Infantry Division is 97% Combat Effective and can be airlifted to any location in the world with 48 hours of notice. The 1st Mech. Infantry is our elite. No other combat unit will be available for at least a week.
Hallad
28-07-2005, 18:26
No, it won't. The pair of you are threatening a tiny nation over domestic affairs. Whether it makes you feel big and clever to push around nations with limited defensive capabilities, I don't know. But it makes you a threat to international security, which is an inadvisable position to be in.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command

The fact that their government has arrested communists in their nation, and forced them to leave the nation, speaks only that they are threats to freedom and Socialism. The Halladi Workers Republic will not stand for such threats. We have not mobilized men, but we will defend our comrades from Capitalist tyranny if we must. When it comes to Socialism, there is no such thing as a "domestic affair."

The Commissariat of War
The Halladi Workers Republic
Yinzola
28-07-2005, 18:31
If any Capitalist nation present is attacked authority is given to begin the airlift. Alert Level - Yellow: Men at stations and equipment is fueled and ready to go. My nation will not stand for oppression and tyranny spreading through small nations.
Vice President Lucien Banks
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 18:34
Do not claim to be Socialists, you are a Bourgeois society. You are not Marxist, you can not claim to be socialist.
Slebira
28-07-2005, 18:34
We are a Social Democracy, a branch of Socialism. We believe in correcting the capitalist system by anti-trust laws and improving the worker's treatment. We are pro-capitalist, pro-democracy socialist, in some ways.
Hallad
28-07-2005, 18:38
OOC: Brydog eh? I'll pretend I didn't see that. ;)
IC:

We see no reason for Yinzola to get involved in this matter. Your nation will only be hurt if you get in the way of workers liberation.

The Commssariat of War
The Halladi Workers Republic
Slebira
28-07-2005, 18:42
Our nation has a mixed economy which is half-socialist and half-capitalist.
Holy panooly
28-07-2005, 18:49
A message from the ill-organised pseudo government of the Nation of Holy Panooly

'So, what have we here? A communist. A socialist. What are you going to do? Equalism for all? Make poverty history? We find these false promises so humerous, we strongly suggest you should be an international stand-up comedian. You know, this reminds of a book where the following is written: "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." Communists are animals, so no need of replacing that with "human".

We may lack the offensive means to whipe you out, but I dare you to come near us. We will make short work of you, and your pathetic people's army.'

- Baron Dominic Templeton, Self-proclaimed ruler of Holy Panooly.
North Matttvia
28-07-2005, 18:49
To: The Government of Slebira

From: The Government and Monarchy of North Mattvia.

Subject: New Regime.

Message:

Me and my Government recognizes the new Government in Slebira, and we are very pleased that you have chosen to have free and open elections, better than just changing hands from a Communist leadership to Fascist one, which I am glad to see, you have not got.

We are surprised the way certain communist nations have reacted to this and if war happens, we will send forces to your nation, but only as peacekeepers making sure, nothing like a holocaust happens or anything along those lines, and will, like the International Body try to stop any conflict.



Regards,



King Leopold I

Head of State for North Mattvia
Kelgrad
28-07-2005, 18:56
OOC:SNP isn't facist, it's the Anti-Communist party

The SNP has charged it's name to The Social Democratic Party of Slebira. This change occured when Congress passed the Free Ecomony Act, establishing anti-trust laws to prevent companies from controlling entire markets.

OOC: Its been a busy day. In 24 hours you have overthrown a government, organized elections, held elections, counted votes, and installed a new regime, held congress, passed a resolution, changed their name, AND had time to apply for foriegn aid. If you guys get things done this fast, maybe I should be capitalist as well!
Valdamacia
28-07-2005, 18:56
The Higher Council of the Valdamacian Empire believes that the simple regime change of a nation has provoked an unnessicary outburst from communistic societies.

Although our nation disagrees with Communism, open war should not be an option to nations like our own.... The fall of Communism will commence though I feel it i not time yet.

Communism shall fail by other means and this argument seems currently irrelivent.

Harlequin Maximus.
Leafanistan
28-07-2005, 18:57
We are a Social Democracy, a branch of Socialism. We believe in correcting the capitalist system by anti-trust laws and improving the worker's treatment. We are pro-capitalist, pro-democracy socialist, in some ways.

Another Democratic Socialist state! Wonderful, we wish you the best in the future, and know that Leafanistan, stands with its Marxist brethern.

-Minister of Ra-Ra-Rasputin
The Glorious Republic of Leafanistan
The Greater Lands
28-07-2005, 19:02
To: The Government of Slebira

From: Field Marshall Andrews Bennings

Subject: In the Face of Oppression

Message:

Dear friend, it is a wonderful thing when curtain of socialism is lifted and the views of a more democratic and capitalistic society come into being.

That I congratulate you on.

It is my promise, on behalf of our leader, President Hadrian, that we shall provide all the possible military aid in case of an attack.

The 12th Air Corp. and the 2nd Army are ready, and will be at your defense if the time comes.

Signed
Field Marshall Andrews Bennings
Commander of the East

On Behalf Of

President Channler Hadrian
Democratic Dictator of the Greater Lands
Shildonia
28-07-2005, 19:09
The People's Republic applauds the steps taken by the people of Slebira to throw off the shackles of Marxist oppression and begin heading down the path towards the freedom offered by a capitalist system. We wish to invite the government of Slebiria to open an embassy within Shildonia, so that we can begin working together to achieve what will hopefully be a mutually profitable relationship based on free trade.
We also wish to offer our assistance in helping to ensure your sovereignty. To this end, we propose deploying a squadron of Demeter-class air-superiority fighters to help train your own pilots in the skills they will need to defend their homeland against foreign aggressors.
Slebira
28-07-2005, 19:25
Another Democratic Socialist state! Wonderful, we wish you the best in the future, and know that Leafanistan, stands with its Marxist brethern.

-Minister of Ra-Ra-Rasputin
The Glorious Republic of Leafanistan
No, we are Social Democratic, we ditched marxism and have a mixed economy, half-socialist and half-capitalist, with capitalism being the main one.
Mef
28-07-2005, 19:36
From the foreign relations administration of the Mef President LXVIII:
Fellow states involved in the Slebira argument,
Mef asks that you end the threats and arm-flexing. Yes, we are a democratic country with a socialist economy, but our disposition has no influence in this matter. Our policy and philosophy does. International communism/multinational capitalism or not, the democratic and hopefully peaceful decisions of a small country is of no business to those who are not invited. This situation is snowballing into a useless conflict that will only hurt the people of Slebira. However, if our pleas fall on deaf ears, this government, with the confidence of the public who control it, pledges to mediate (with the consent of both parties) any altercation that may arise.
Slebira
28-07-2005, 20:26
Chancellor Peinkoff has ordered the creation of the Slebiran Defense Force. The SDF will divided in the Air Defense Command, Land Defense Command, and the Naval Defense Command. The ADC has only 15 MiG-21bis, and the rest are well trained but need more things.
Torontia
28-07-2005, 20:34
(OOC) To: Slebira

You have 15 jet fighters to start with, but don't forget the 120 jet fighters (F-15 and F18) that Torontia gave you!
Shazbotdom
28-07-2005, 21:24
***OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION***

The Holy Empire itself is a Democratic Socialist nation. We believe that Soclialism is the way of the future, but Democracy must be maintained in order to ensure the prosperity of a nation.

We hope you take the next step and join socialism.
Red Tide2
28-07-2005, 21:34
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"We welcome the nation of Slebira to the international stage and offer them a embassy and a trade agreement between our two nations, as further offer of our good intentions, we offer you 100 million dollars in funds. We warn the imperialist communists who try to take away this nations soveriegnty for their own purposes to stop or suffer consequences."
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Slebira
28-07-2005, 21:38
The SDF has adopted the M-16A1 has it's standard rifle.
http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/m16ak.jpg
Slebira
28-07-2005, 21:47
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"We welcome the nation of Slebira to the international stage and offer them a embassy and a trade agreement between our two nations, as further offer of our good intentions, we offer you 100 million dollars in funds. We warn the imperialist communists who try to take away this nations soveriegnty for their own purposes to stop or suffer consequences."
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APC-45:This Armored Personnel Carrier is capable of carrying 10 men inside. It has a fully rotatable turret armed with two 23mm rapid firing FLAK guns. These guns are also effective against infantry and unarmored veichles. 3 million per APC.

M-100 Assault Rifle:This rifle fires about 100 meters more then the AK-74, 10 more Rounds Per Minute, and has a slightly larger clip(34 instead of 30). It utilises 6.5mm rounds and can come with either a gunsight or laser scope. Fires in semi-auto, auto, and burst. Cost:1200 USD per gun.

MDM-1 Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher:Has the same effective range as the M-100 Assualt Rifle and can be fired inside buildings. Unguided, lightweight, portable, and reloadable. Fire from above or behind the tank for maximum penetration. 2400 per launcher.

MDM-4 Surface-Air Missile: Is capable of effectively targeting all types of aircraft, Cruise Missiles, and Short Range Ballistic Missiles(like the SCUD) at all levels of height. A battery of them comes with Laser-Guided, IR Guided, and Radar-Guided Missiles, the first two are for targetting low-mid flying viechles, the latter targets mid-high flying veichles. A battery also comes with a specialised high powered radar array capable of detecting and targetting most Low Signature(read:Stealth) aircraft. A battery usually consists of 6 of these fine weapons. The MDM-4 is even capable of targetting large bombs(such as a FAE or MOAB), though only the laser guided missiles are capable of doing this. The MDM-4 is a stationary weapon that must be disassembled to move and assembled to fire. The launcher holds 6 missiles(radar-guided) or 12 missiles(IR and Laser-Guided). A single radar array can guide a battery of MDM-4s. The total cost for a Launcher WITH missiles costs about 21 million USD per launcher. The radar array costs 10 million USD.

M-1 Tunguska RT Mobile Anti Aircraft System: This is a modified Tunguska Mobile Anti-Aircraft Gun/Missile System. Instead of firing 8 SA-19 Missiles, it fires 8 QMSAM(Quick Manueverable Surface-Air Missiles)-10 and -20 missiles. These missiles move at Mach 5 and are either Laser(-10 version) or IR (-20 version) guided. Both versions have a 93% success rate against low-flying aircraft and cruise missiles. This will cost 12 million USD per launcher WITH the missiles.

LRASM(Long Range Anti-Surface Missile)-50: This is NOT a cruise missile but instead a long range missile effective against ships, bunkers, and structures(effectiveness against target type depends on warhead). There are two versions, a air launched one and a surface launched one, the former haveing a slightly shorter range of 110 miles instead of 115 miles. There are 4 warheads, deep penetration, anti-structure, anti-ship, and chemical delivery(the last warhead is also capable of carrying cluster bomblets). The missile moves above mach-1 and is a surface skimmer making it difficult to hit with CIWS. It costs 3 million per missile.

Training in above equipment:Each instructor will cost 700,000 American Dollars

We hope these products will fit your needs well. Please contact us soon.

PS:We prefer that you have a place to deliver these weapons."

End Message
We don't know how we can afford these weapons

Chancellor Victor Peinkoff
Peopleita
28-07-2005, 22:12
The Commandante finds it typical that despite the fact all Marxist nations here have stated they have no militiristic intentions, the capatilists and facists are all prepareing for war.
Torontia
28-07-2005, 22:22
FYI, Im doing an invite thread for a civil war in my nation.

Communist scum are going to be revolting against my right-wing government and the corporations that own my nation.

Check out the thread and see what side you want to sign up to.
Gorkon
29-07-2005, 00:04
The fact that their government has arrested communists in their nation, and forced them to leave the nation, speaks only that they are threats to freedom and Socialism. The Halladi Workers Republic will not stand for such threats. We have not mobilized men, but we will defend our comrades from Capitalist tyranny if we must. When it comes to Socialism, there is no such thing as a "domestic affair."

The Commissariat of War
The Halladi Workers Republic

If you want to go down that road, then the same is true of capitalism -- there is no such thing as a 'domestic affair' in a global free market, either.

Such naive notions would see both 'sides' waging pointless world wars every five seconds. The fact that the Slebira 'people' had to 'overthrow' their previous government to establish 'democratic elections' suggests to me that 'freedom' is the last thing they had previously enjoyed.

And after the 'people' have overthrown their previous government and established 'democracy', they find a pair of communist nations trying to force them to revert. Can you see the irony? I can. I see no 'freedom' involved in any of this.

Slebira authorities are allowing you to take all communist supporters out without the need for force. If all you are aiming to do is protect your brethren, you already have your window of opportunity to protect them without bloodshed. A socialist would take this opportunity, without question. A capitalist would go to war despite this opportunity, likely with the additional aim of securing new assets. After all, 'human resources' are expendable so far as a capitalist is concerned.

I would suggest your leadership thinks long and hard as to which of these two labels they can claim to use.

Where is Hallad interference here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434469)? Here, communists are actually dying and I don't even see a protest from your government. Would it have something to do with the size of Red Tide2?

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command
Slebira
29-07-2005, 00:09
The SDF has been put on high alert. 5 MiG-21s patrol the skies over Lanina, the capital. The LDF(land defense force) has put guards at every government buliding.
Yinzola
29-07-2005, 05:59
Congratulations yet again! I am Mark Flaxour the President of Yinzola. We shall open an embassy and send a platoon of soldiers to guard it. This is standard custom with our embassies around the world. We wish to donate 100 Humvees to the SDF from our elite Mech. Infantry divisions. They are produced by my nation's fine automotive industry.

President Mark Flaxour
Peopleita
29-07-2005, 12:08
Again all the Marxist nations here have said that they want peace, yet Facist nations like Red Tide are all prepaing for war.
Elsburytonia
29-07-2005, 12:32
His most high and glorious emperor Andrew the First of Elsburytonia congratulates the Slebiran Nationalist Party in their election victory.

The Emperor himself finds elections distasteful and prefers not to impose them on the people of Elsburytonia.

The fall of a communist government is always a time for rejoycing and as such the Emperor offers a civic reception to your esteemed leader should they choose to visit the Holy Empire.

A trade delegation would also like to present itself to your government at your earliest convenience.

Kind regards,

Dominic Warren
Special Envoy - International Relations Ministry
Elsburytonia
29-07-2005, 12:35
Again all the Marxist nations here have said that they want peace, yet Facist nations like Red Tide are all prepaing for war.

This may be because the Facists are more practical than the utopian socialists.
New Sans
29-07-2005, 12:44
Again all the Marxist nations here have said that they want peace, yet Facist nations like Red Tide are all prepaing for war.


Overthrown.
Slaughtered.

This is describing the leaders of your country. Former leaders. People who made right decisions for the Glorious Communistic Country they led.

I warn you, any further action aganist Communism will be strictly "Disciplined."

We don't see how this is a statement of peace do you?
Valdamacia
29-07-2005, 13:14
Any who call them selves 'true' Marxists should have no need of a military, for they should be able to avoid war at all costs... it seems that the communists are not even following their own beliefs, perhaps this is why they fail...

Valdamacian High Council Representative
Vintovia
29-07-2005, 13:30
We congratgulate the slebiran nationalist party on their victory in free and just elctions.

Although Socialiost, we too belive in the justice and freedomj of democratic elections. We hope that in four years we will see antother election like this, and not watch your country fall back into totalitariansiim.