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T-120 Ravager MBT for Sale!

The Warmaster
19-07-2005, 21:06
From the laboratories of Kreegan War Systems, the primary supplier of Imperial weaponry and vehicles, the Imperium has assumed responsibility for the international sale of a new breed of main battle tank: the T-120 Ravager.

Introduction:
The T-120 Ravager MBT is the future of modern tank warfare. It is designed to enter urban combat zones, secure the immediate area, unload a squad of troops, and use them to sweep surrounding buildings and alleys too small for the Ravager itself to enter. To allow the transport of the soldiers, the Ravager had to be built bigger than normal tank size, but allows increased maneuverability with four, instead of two, continuous treads. This allows better turning ability. The armor itself is split into two, as well. One piece is the forward section, containing the crew area, the ammo compartment, and the engine. The smaller second section contains the small compartment with a capacity of eight fully equipped soldiers.
The front section is designed differently from other MBTs. It is roughly wedge-shaped, to deflect incoming fire more effectively. It has headlights to illuminate at night and a 12.7 mm machine gun mounted in front of the commander’s hatch. A sort of periscope provides visibility for the gunner and driver; it has a binocular-like projection into the cabin, which the driver and gunner press their eyes to. It has several vision capabilities, including thermal, electromagnetic, and night vision. Lasers calculate the distance from the guns to a target, and the advanced targeting systems on the Ravager can hit 10 targets every 30 seconds. The main gun, which is 120 mm-caliber, fires APFSDS/HIAT rounds, that is, Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot shells at a rate of 12 shells per minute. The gun is loaded automatically. The engine is a SACMV8X-1500 hyperbar diesel engine, providing impressive speed, given the size and weight of the Ravager. It has a road speed of 60 kilometers per hour, and an off-road speed of 50 kilometers per hour. The armor of the tank is a very thick alloy of steel and titanium, with small amounts of manganese added to the steel to prevent brittleness, and tungsten added to the areas that are most important, like the ammunition compartment, the engine, and the turret.
The rear section of the Ravager is attached to the front by a flexible armor made by attaching small overlapping plates of armor together, making a material with sufficient flexibility to serve as an attaching device for the tank, yet almost as heavily armored as the rest of the tank. The rear section is merely a hold for the squad being transported. However, to protect against anti-tank fighter-bombers like the A-10 Thunderbolt “Warthog”, one 14.5 mm AA gun is mounted on the top of the rear section. To deploy the soldiers, a control in the front lowers an armored door through which the soldiers can rush out.
The Ravager, while effective singly, is best deployed in a platoon of four to six tanks. This way they can provide overlapping AA fire with their 7.62 mm guns, and their squads can coordinate multiple assaults through communication with their “mother” tank, in a multi-pronged attack. The Ravager is least effective when deployed in large numbers at once, due to its large size. Too many tanks and the communications network between squads and their tank would become cluttered, not to mention the difficulty in moving too many tanks down any but the widest of streets.

Statistics:
Armament
Primary Gun size: 120 mm
Rate of Fire: 12 shells per minute
Shell type: APFSDS/HIAT
AA gun: 7.62 mm gun
Secondary Gun: 12.7 mm machine gun
Engine
Engine type: SACMV8X-1500 hyperbar diesel
Road speed: 60 kilometers per hour
Off-road speed: 50 kilometers per hour
Electronic Capabilities
Range of recognition: 4 miles
Range of identification: 2.5 miles
ESM system passively detects enemy electromagnetic emissions
Limited range ECM jammer
Size
Length: 38.7 feet
Width: 12.4 feet
Price
1.5 million USD

Options:
A flamethrower can be added for an extra 100,000 USD. This device consists of a second tank of fuel in the front section of the tank. It is forced out of a jutting nozzle near the bottom of the front section by nitrogen gas under pressure and ignited. The burning stream of fuel has a maximum range of 95 yards, and is extremely useful for dealing with groups of infantry or fortifications.

OOC: You may have noticed I don’t have any pictures of the tank. Sorry. That’s why I described its design so much. Tell me if you have any questions and I’ll try to answer them. I’m no huge expert on tanks. Also, do your own math. If you make me do it for you, I will charge you 100,000 extra.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:36
OOC: A helping hand, a 7.62mm AA gun won't do shit these days, get a 12.7mm or if you hate APCs as well, get a 14.5mm, that thing will ruin anyone's day.
The Candrian Empire
19-07-2005, 21:59
Get more concise.

"The main gun,... fires APFSDS/HIAT rounds, that is, Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot"

A Sabot already IS armor peircing (it is usually a depleted uranium dart), many are fin stablized, and are discarded from cases that allow a Sabot dart to fit in a tank barrel.

Try this shorter version:

The main gun,... fires Sabot/HIAT rounds.
Praetonia
19-07-2005, 22:07
Actually a Sabot is a bit of plastic which allows a gun to fire a sub-calibre projectile. APFSDS is the actual name of the round, and APFSDS stands for "Armour Peircing Fin-Stabilised Discarding Sabot". So he is correct.
The Warmaster
19-07-2005, 23:57
OOC: A helping hand, a 7.62mm AA gun won't do shit these days, get a 12.7mm or if you hate APCs as well, get a 14.5mm, that thing will ruin anyone's day.

Really? Damn. I'll change that. Like I said, I'm no tank expert. Thanks.

Tell me if there are any other mistakes...
McKagan
20-07-2005, 00:08
1) How many troops can it carry?

2) How many people to crew it?

3) How much for production rights?
GMC Military Arms
20-07-2005, 02:57
Hrm...Slightly unsure what you're getting at, here.

The front section is designed differently from other MBTs. It is roughly wedge-shaped, to deflect incoming fire more effectively. It has headlights to illuminate at night

...That's an exact description of the front end of the Merkava, you realise?

The rear section of the Ravager is attached to the front by a flexible armor made by attaching small overlapping plates of armor together, making a material with sufficient flexibility to serve as an attaching device for the tank, yet almost as heavily armored as the rest of the tank.

Um...So it's an articulated tank with an MBT physically attached to an APC, sort of like how an assembled Crusader would have looked? I'm not really sure why you'd ever want to try something like that, since a disconnected APC / tank would do a better job; when the APC section is empty all it really does is slow the tank section down and increase weight.

AA gun: 7.62 mm gun
Secondary Gun: 12.7 mm machine gun

Lesson one of tank design is to never base anything on the LeClerc. Ever.

OOC: You may have noticed I don’t have any pictures of the tank. Sorry. That’s why I described its design so much. Tell me if you have any questions and I’ll try to answer them. I’m no huge expert on tanks.

A lot of people on NS use the free CGI program Doga to make pictures of their stuff; link to how to get it here:

http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/dogaFAQ.html
Novgova
20-07-2005, 03:05
I'm kind of stupid with the LeClerc. why is it so bad?
The Warmaster
22-07-2005, 17:14
1) How many troops can it carry?

2) How many people to crew it?

3) How much for production rights?

It carries 8 troops. Crew of 4: commander, driver, and 2 gunners. And production rights? Good question. I've hung around storefronts some but I don't want to ask for too much or too little. So just give me a bid, I guess, and I'll think about it.
MelekTaus
22-07-2005, 17:40
A lot of people on NS use the free CGI program Doga to make pictures of their stuff; link to how to get it here:

http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/dogaFAQ.html[/QUOTE]

Unfortunatly, the link that FAQ supplies is broken for me. I think others may end up with the same problem.
The Warmaster
23-07-2005, 00:49
Doga, you say? I'll try it, but I've seen storefronts, and I think a good description is just as good as drawings in some cases.
Rheingua
23-07-2005, 04:04
Grand General Zacharia Krackel-The armies of Rheingua would like to purchase 40 of T-120's.Money will be wired upon confirmation.Thank you.
The Warmaster
23-07-2005, 17:06
To Zacharia Krackel-

Your order comes to 60 million USD. Pleasure doing business with you. As you are our first customer, you will receive a 10% discount. Therefore the final price is 54 million. Sacred Emperor Lucifer thanks you for your time.
GMC Military Arms
25-07-2005, 12:31
Unfortunatly, the link that FAQ supplies is broken for me. I think others may end up with the same problem.

It's back up again now. Just download L2 or L3, not L1.
Karat
25-07-2005, 15:02
Karat wishes this to be ship asap

40 T-120 Ravager MBT {fully loaded} with extra tank of gas no flamthrower for 41.5 mill

total cost 41.5 mill :D
The Warmaster
25-07-2005, 16:56
Karat wishes this to be ship asap

40 T-120 Ravager MBT {fully loaded} with extra tank of gas no flamthrower for 41.5 mill

total cost 41.5 mill :D

Your order will be shipped immediately; however, at 1.5 million per tank, an order of 40 would come to 60 million. We regret to inform you that due to your miscalculation, a small fee of 100,000 USD has been added to your total. 60.1 million USD is the final total. Pleasure doing business with you.
The Warmaster
28-07-2005, 00:21
bump!
Freudotopia
28-07-2005, 01:45
On behalf of the Freudotopian Imperial Army and Imperial Military Design, we would like to ask for the production rights for the T-120 Ravager main battle tank. It will be produced, and perhaps modified in Freudotopia and will benefit both our nations, especially in the growing conflict of the ViZionarian aggression against the CAD. Thank you for your business.

--Colonel Edgar Doolittle, Director of Procurement, FIA

--General Ludvig von Smith, Director, IMD
The Warmaster
28-07-2005, 16:54
On behalf of the Freudotopian Imperial Army and Imperial Military Design, we would like to ask for the production rights for the T-120 Ravager main battle tank. It will be produced, and perhaps modified in Freudotopia and will benefit both our nations, especially in the growing conflict of the ViZionarian aggression against the CAD. Thank you for your business.

--Colonel Edgar Doolittle, Director of Procurement, FIA

--General Ludvig von Smith, Director, IMD

In the name of our alliance, Sacred Emperor Lucifer has directed the Ministry of Industry to give you the production rights at no charge. We thank you for your expression of interest.
The Warmaster
03-08-2005, 20:19
bumpity
The Velkyan Union
03-08-2005, 21:17
We shall take 2000 to back our armored divisions of Soviet Bloc MBTs.

3 billion en route.
The Warmaster
03-08-2005, 21:47
We shall take 2000 to back our armored divisions of Soviet Bloc MBTs.

3 billion en route.

Excellent. The Sacred Emperor thanks you for your business. Your order is on its way. Expect the tanks to arrive in 7 NS months.
The Warmaster
04-08-2005, 18:27
bump
The Warmaster
07-08-2005, 22:05
"BUMP!" intones a massive Belgian waffle.
Gross-Finnland
07-08-2005, 23:03
Just some questions about your MBT.. which are rather crucial considering the missions where you can use this kind of vehicle.
How much does a T-120 weigh? It sounds like a rather large and massive tank.
What about the weight/power- ratio? And the height? How much ammo is the tank able to carry? What angle is the maximum that you can fire the cannon? (it is important if you plan to use tanks in cities that you can aim rather high. In normal MBT:s the cannon cannot be aimed very high, only up to about 20-30 degrees).
The Warmaster
08-08-2005, 01:52
Just some questions about your MBT.. which are rather crucial considering the missions where you can use this kind of vehicle.
How much does a T-120 weigh? It sounds like a rather large and massive tank.
What about the weight/power- ratio? And the height? How much ammo is the tank able to carry? What angle is the maximum that you can fire the cannon? (it is important if you plan to use tanks in cities that you can aim rather high. In normal MBT:s the cannon cannot be aimed very high, only up to about 20-30 degrees).

Hmmm...I'll work on those. See, this is the first time I designed something like this and I don't know what is reasonable and what is not.