NationStates Jolt Archive


Invading a Couple of Planets.

Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 19:40
We will not identify their name or location. But we can reveal that they are technologically and intelectually inferior to our race and others around the Universe. We will invade and exterminate the species' inhabiting the planets, all totally legal by the way. If you have a problem with this, then contact our lawers. The planets will then be put up for sale. You can pre-order now. Just make a bid (anything below 10 trillion for either will not do) and log it with us. We will get back to you. We are deploying 50 V-18 Tripods to each planet. It will take a little while to wipe them clean of their filth. But we will reveal when both are ready for collection. Let the bidding begin!
Curdar Richer Thelm Vespeterium, Minister of Planetary Occupation, High Minister of the Armed Forces and Chief Sales Rep.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 19:46
Come on, nobody interested in buying?
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 19:49
We don't deal with lawyers, it was the first thing our civilization barred at Founding.

We'd prefer to offer a hefty sum of funds if you would 'not' attack the system, and allow us to engage with them more peacefully. Would $50 Billion suit your pallate?

If they are inferior to you, then you would be wasting armaments on them. Let us handle them instead.

--

Meanwhile, half a Fleet Group was prepared to 'dispatch' this action. Over five hundred various vessels of all classes, with a single Unity Class A-SSD was prepared to be Fold Jumped at a moment's notice.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 19:53
Their inferior weapons will not even pierce the shields of our V-18 Tri-pods (see the 'Vespeterium Family New Weapons' Thread for an explanation of the capabilities). We'll be wasting nothing. And 50 billion is nowhere near enough. We can get 5 trillion for a rock made of ice (a certain moon, funny story). I'm afraid we'll continue with our genocide. Any more offers?
Mykonians
19-07-2005, 19:56
Releasing details regarding estimated core temperature, diameter, mineral deposits and atmospheric pressure and composition of both planets would allow the Unity to better judge the usefulness of these planets. Seeing as you are an organic and thus dedicated to the pursuit of destruction we may as well put them to some form of productive use once you have completed the extermination of your kin.

H2-50
Mykonia
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 20:04
If you continue with your current actions, then we will have little choice but to blockade this little action with direct force. If you wish to contest this, then ask many of the other nations we have been in contact with, and know our prowess and convictions are beyond reapproach.

We may command galaxies, but even one system of native life is still important to us. To attack them like this will find us 'helping' to defend those you seek to attack.

If you wish to continue this diatrod of foolishness, then Guardianship will find a need on the small scale apparently. We are 'not' kidding.

Regards,

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Ascendancy Sphere FACAF ilCommand
Theao
19-07-2005, 20:07
Should you persist in this xenocide, we shall fully support the Gaian Ascendancy in any actions they choose to take.
A Freed Tibet
19-07-2005, 20:09
We have decided to side with the gaians and will not tolerate such atrocities i am prepared to place a trade embargo on your nation if this action is continued

A freed tibet

CHINA OUT OF TIBET!
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:10
We're not dedicated to destruction. We're dedicated to profit! Our genocide has a perfectly sane reasoning behind it. And we'd be delighted to divulge these details. They are listed below.


Planet A: Core Temperature: Estimated at 8000 degrees.
Diameter: 12980 km.
Mineral Deposits: Gold, Silver. Other resources include oil, water (you have no idea how many humans will go for a good water filled planet) and a lot of coal, though coal is a little out of date.
Atmospheric Pressure: 1 kilogram per square centimeter.

Planet B: Core Temperature: Estimated at 11,000 degrees.
Diameter: 50987 km.
Mineral Deposits: Not many unfortunatley, though they do have a hell of a lot of uranium on the planet. This one is more for, parking space if you will.
Atmospheric Pressure: 6 kg per square cm.

If oxygen is problem for your particular species, then we can reveal that both are oxygen based. Hope to hear many offers soon!
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:12
We're not dedicated to destruction. We're dedicated to profit! Our genocide has a perfectly sane reasoning behind it. And we'd be delighted to divulge these details. They are listed below.


Planet A: Core Temperature: Estimated at 8000 degrees.
Diameter: 12980 km.
Mineral Deposits: Gold, Silver. Other resources include oil, water (you have no idea how many humans will go for a good water filled planet) and a lot of coal, though coal is a little out of date.
Atmospheric Pressure: 1 kilogram per square centimeter.

Planet B: Core Temperature: Estimated at 11,000 degrees.
Diameter: 50987 km.
Mineral Deposits: Not many unfortunatley, though they do have a hell of a lot of uranium on the planet. This one is more for, parking space if you will.
Atmospheric Pressure: 6 kg per square cm.

If oxygen is problem for your particular species, then we can reveal that both are oxygen based. Hope to hear many offers soon!

Can you not slaughter the civilization. We could use some slave workers. And we'll pay more for them even though you are doing less. Its so hard to transport the machinery AND people over to mine, why not enslave the current race living there?
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:13
Like I said my friends, this is fully legal. Take it up with our lawers. An attack on the Family will be illegal and highly unjustified. And are you prepared to shed blood over a species that has only just progressed into gun warfare? I would think not. We are all intelligent enough, not to bring oursleves down to the level of the barley literate apes. We can sort this out through negotiation I'm sure.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:15
Can you not slaughter the civilization. We could use some slave workers. And we'll pay more for them even though you are doing less. Its so hard to transport the machinery AND people over to mine, why not enslave the current race living there?

This suggestion makes us feel dirty even speaking of it. We will not even breath the same air as these stupid apes. They will clear the way for us more intelligent species', they are too stupid to even be our slaves.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 20:16
It matters not, we can negotiate the profit you seek in short order, but the idea of genocide in all conscious is 'not' morally allowable, especially when we are in a position to stop such a mornic idea.

And we know quite well what those resources mean, but they belong to the native of those worlds first and foremost, not for you to suddenly delve out in a Victorian Imperialist manner.

Our stance remains. If you wish to negotiate, we will send a party to do so, where 'all' parties profit, including the natives present.

Or do you wish to know what our Jihad means, as the Dark Eternals have already felt.

Continued Regards

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Ascendancy Sphere FACAF ilCommand

---

...and hours after the inital deployment orders, three entire Fleet Legions are ordered ready in attachment. The Ascendancy had no compunctions about war.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:17
This suggestion makes us feel dirty even speaking of it. We will not even breath the same air as these stupid apes. They will clear the way for us more intelligent species, they are too stupid to even be our slaves.

Please, a dog can be trained to be a slave to your whims, besides genetic engineering and a few accelerated generations later, we have the perfect subservient race for us. We'll pay extra, besides, you aren't breathing the air, we are.

-Minister of Extrasolar Affairs
Mykonians
19-07-2005, 20:18
We're not dedicated to destruction. We're dedicated to profit! Our genocide has a perfectly sane reasoning behind it. And we'd be delighted to divulge these details. They are listed below.


Planet A: Core Temperature: Estimated at 8000 degrees.
Diameter: 12980 km.
Mineral Deposits: Gold, Silver. Other resources include oil, water (you have no idea how many humans will go for a good water filled planet) and a lot of coal, though coal is a little out of date.
Atmospheric Pressure: 1 kilogram per square centimeter.

Planet B: Core Temperature: Estimated at 11,000 degrees.
Diameter: 50987 km.
Mineral Deposits: Not many unfortunatley, though they do have a hell of a lot of uranium on the planet. This one is more for, parking space if you will.
Atmospheric Pressure: 6 kg per square cm.

If oxygen is problem for your particular species, then we can reveal that both are oxygen based. Hope to hear many offers soon!

The Unity is intrigued by these planets. However, we will require further information regarding their general positions within the galaxy -- as you undoubtedly know, the galaxy is a highly dangerous place. Certain areas are home to specific types of radiation which may not even register for yourselves, but they can cause havoc with Mykonian positronics. Exact coordinates are not expected nor required, as I am sure you would not divulge such information, but their general locations will allow us to ascertain what sort of risks our units will be under when reaching the planets.

H2-50
Mykonia
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:19
My dear Gaian Ascendancy, morals are not familiar with me. How much will it take for you to forget the monkeys plight?
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:22
My dear Gaian Ascendancy, morals are not familiar with me. How much will it take for you to forget the monkeys plight?

How much for you to forget the monkey's plight so we can subject them to cruel and unusual genetic engineering?
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:25
Mykonia, we can give more information, but I am not sure that I can give the information about radiation. Will distance from the sun help?

Planet A: Distance: 137 million km. This planet orbits one huge sun, much like say, the Earth does.

Planet B: Distance: 199 million km. This planet is in orbit of two dwarf suns, like my planet. Together they give off a heat greater than any other star in the Universe.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:26
How much for you to forget the monkey's plight so we can subject them to cruel and unusual genetic engineering?

Hmm, intriguing. However, our weapons are not equipped for capture, for obvious reasons. We will think upon your proposal.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 20:26
Are you suggesting an immoral bribe to attempt to make us forget this all, or for possession of the planet? State your terms more clearly. The next action noted will determine our next course written into the historic archives.

The freedom of these people is the only consideration truly at stake here. Anyone else considering otherwise will not find profit.

We will be sending one diplomatic team into the system in moments to negotiate.
Mykonians
19-07-2005, 20:27
Mykonia, we can give more information, but I am not sure that I can give the information about radiation. Will distance from the sun help?

Planet A: Distance: 137 million km. This planet orbits one huge sun, much like say, the Earth does.

Planet B: Distance: 199 million km. This planet is in orbit of two dwarf suns, like my planet. Together they give off a heat greater than any other star in the Universe.

The location of the star systems themselves within the galaxy would be of greater use, as certain areas of the galaxy are more hazardous to our systems than others. Thank you for your assistance thus far, organic.

H2-50
Mykonia
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:29
Hmm, intriguing. However, our weapons are not equipped for capture, for obvious reasons. We will think upon your proposal.

Just glass a large enough place on the planet for us to get down without being surrounded by the filth, and we'll do it ourselves. Us Leafanistani's like a hands on approach to genocide.
Theao
19-07-2005, 20:29
We shall also send a diplomatic team to this conference, as well as a number of ships to aid in the defense of the natives.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:33
Why can't more planets be more like Leafanistan. I can't believe my intellectual friends are rallying to the cause of the clueless scum. The Family will sort out the differences before carrying on with negotiations.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:34
Hurry it up and brush these naysayers aside, name a price and we'll negotiate, we've been meaning to secure large uranium deposits for some time now.

-Minister of Shiny Things
-Minister of Extrasolar Affairs
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 20:44
The 'naysayers' arrive.

A JumpShip Foldjumps out of the Ascendancy Sphere, with an escort of ten Ascendancy Warships, holding station about fifty kilometers off the aft of the JumpShip.

Thousands of warships waited on the stroke of a single order if needed.

The message sent was both simple and terse.

:: ~ We are here to do whatever it takes to ensure the populations of these two worlds are held clear and safe. If there be as mentioned, desire for profit, then the natives will be protected, if any exchange is to be made.

We will not leave here until the natives are held safe. If needed, allied forces will be called upon from other nations to ensure this negotiation holds utter validity.

We would prefer our own way of simply blasting you out of the system utterly for your dispicable actions already put in words, but we would prefer to honor in 'some' part your desires. Money means little to us, as life means far far more.

If you seek profit, it will be on our terms. If you seek otherwise, we are more than prepared to comply as 'well'. Then pen 'and' the sword is what we bring here.

Choose which shall be the weapon, 'now'.

Regards,

Ascendancy Diplomatic Advisory

Ascendancy FACAF ilCommand ~ ::
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:45
Hmm, it seems my overly sensitive friends have left for the time being. Perhaps we could negotiate with Leafanistan and Mykonians. I'm afraid, Mykonians, since our samaritans seem willing to defend these brainless scum, we cannot divulge areas of planets through fear of attack. And Leafanistan, if you wish to negotiate these scum, what price were you thinking of?
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:46
The 'naysayers' arrive.

A JumpShip Foldjump out of the Ascendancy Sphere, with an escort of ten Ascendancy Warships, holding station about fifty kilometers off the aft of the JumpShip.

Thousands of warships waited on the stroke of a single order if needed.

The message was both simple and terse.

Leafanistan will buy the planet without harming the natives, besides they are little more than bipedal monkies, not even sentient.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:47
Spoke too soon.

Very well, if you compensate us entirely for the profit you are causing us to lose out on, we will leave the scum in your protection.
Theao
19-07-2005, 20:47
The Theao force and diplomatic team arrived shortly after the GA, and took a flanking position to the GA fleet.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:48
Hmm, it seems my overly sensitive friends have left for the time being. Perhaps we could negotiate with Leafanistan and Mykonians. I'm afraid, Mykonians, since our samaritans seem willing to defend these brainless scum, we cannot divulge areas of planets through fear of attack. And Leafanistan, if you wish to negotiate these scum, what price were you thinking of?

We are saving you the trouble of spending all that time and effort destroying them so an offer of $13 trillion seems fair. The larger one with the uranium deposits is useful to us.
Mykonians
19-07-2005, 20:50
OOC: I'm curious as to how people are mysteriously claiming to know the exact location of these planets when VM quite clearly stated within the first few words that 'We will not identify their name or location.' Mysteriously 'knowing' where they are is not only highly improbable regardless of claims of magitech, but also simply... well, rude so far as RP etiquette goes.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 20:50
The diplomatic team response.

:: ~ The scum you mention, should be the ones in the mirror, not the ones on the surface of the planet.

Put forth a reasonable price you seek, and we will consider tender of offer in response. It already is enough we even consider this road, so offer quickly while our patience is not thin. ~ ::
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:54
OOC: I'm curious as to how people are mysteriously claiming to know the exact location of these planets when VM quite clearly stated within the first few words that 'We will not identify their name or location.' Mysteriously 'knowing' where they are is not only highly improbable regardless of claims of magitech, but also simply... well, rude so far as RP etiquette goes.

:D Thank you. But I'm sure they'd find it evetually.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 20:55
OOC: I'm curious as to how people are mysteriously claiming to know the exact location of these planets when VM quite clearly stated within the first few words that 'We will not identify their name or location.' Mysteriously 'knowing' where they are is not only highly improbable regardless of claims of magitech, but also simply... well, rude so far as RP etiquette goes.

((OC- Tell that to the Ascendant Star Map archives, once the nature of the planets were offered like they were. Considering this is probably happening in the Milky Way Galaxy, it takes little error of margin to find the proper system.

..and suddenly ploping somthing like this in, when everyone is rping an enslavement or genocide of another race kinda cancels the ettiquite part out, don't you think?))
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:56
The diplomatic team response.

Don't go about threatening nations that just want to garden the land they settle on. Those unevolved monkies are just dangerous to have around. They are large and violent, we should be thankful that our friend here is removing them beforehand instead of selling a dangerous product. But because of such concerns we shall do it ourselves. Perhaps they will be put into a wildlife preserve.

-Minister of Oddly Worded Responses
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 20:57
Anyways, we offer the price of 20 trillion. That is the least we were going to expect from the two planets.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 20:58
Anyways, we offer the price of 20 trillion. That is the least we were going to expect from the two planets.

$19.5 Trillion, I need a new mansion.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 21:00
Don't go about threatening nations that just want to garden the land they settle on. Those unevolved monkies are just dangerous to have around. They are large and violent, we should be thankful that our friend here is removing them beforehand instead of selling a dangerous product. But because of such concerns we shall do it ourselves. Perhaps they will be put into a wildlife preserve.

-Minister of Oddly Worded Responses

My equally enlightened friend here makes a very good point. As we know from other examples, monkey's evolve for the primary purpose to kill eachother. They develop, make large weapons and before you know it, they are in space dropping nuclear bombs on other planets. They are disgusting multiplying wastes of space that should be destroyed. What serious species would do business with the likes of the monkey's of Earth for example? Disgusting.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:04
My equally enlightened friend here makes a very good point. As we know from other examples, monkey's evolve for the primary puropse to kill eachother. They develop, make large weapons and before you know it, they are in space dropping nuclear bombs on other planets. They are disgusting multiplying wastes of space that should be destroyed. What serious species would do business with the likes of the monkey's of Earth for example? Disgusting.

Do we have a deal or not?
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 21:06
Don't go about threatening nations that just want to garden the land they settle on. Those unevolved monkies are just dangerous to have around. They are large and violent, we should be thankful that our friend here is removing them beforehand instead of selling a dangerous product. But because of such concerns we shall do it ourselves. Perhaps they will be put into a wildlife preserve.

-Minister of Oddly Worded Responses

--

And.....

:: ~ Indeed..

..try humoring us for this one iota, and consider yourselves in place of the 'savages' you seek to destroy. If they are so dangerous, then you must both fear something greatly to consider such actions.

Or are you no better than interstellar bullies that need to be taught their place in the Balance.

As for the offer, you truly expect a nation to come up with that much at once? We will consider such a price if only take into account a payment plan over several years. ~ ::
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 21:06
Well, I actually was offering this as compensation to the Samaritans. We'll see what move they decide to take on the apes, and go from there.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 21:07
Surely, if you love the monkey's so much, you and your allies will pitch together.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:07
--

And.....

Not everyone runs around waving assualt rifles. The young are defenseless, perhaps they wander into the forest? We certanly don't want monkeys consuming the flesh while a horrified parent walks in to it.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 21:08
((OC- Are either of ya taking NSEconomy or anything else into account? Even 'I' try to use certain standards when in a situation like this. ))
Mykonians
19-07-2005, 21:11
((OC- Tell that to the Ascendant Star Map archives, once the nature of the planets were offered like they were. Considering this is probably happening in the Milky Way Galaxy, it takes little error of margin to find the proper system.

..and suddenly ploping somthing like this in, when everyone is rping an enslavement or genocide of another race kinda cancels the ettiquite part out, don't you think?))

OOC: That's what the Mykonians were up to, though you implied that you already knew before he divulged that information.

And plopping something like what in?
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 21:12
I was kind of thinking, a planetary economy. Take into account any trade, or money agreements you may have. If so, it would be into the trillions, am I right?
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:13
((OC- Are either of ya taking NSEconomy or anything else into account? Even 'I' try to use certain standards when in a situation like this. ))

OOC: I plan to pay this off in 10-20 NS years, seriously, even he would have to nearly bankrupt his whole nation paying this off in one huge lump sum.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 21:13
:: ~ You both have the morals of fools. If you want to keep trying our patience, then maybe another demonstration is in order. ~ ::

--

A second fleet Fold is ordered, this time as sixteen Hikari Treeships enter the system very close to the two planets, split into two flotillas, with two Shield Tree PlatformShips positioned over the northern pole of each world.

Insults would only entrench the Ascendancy further.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:15
--

A second fleet Fold is ordered, this time as sixteen Hikari Treeships enter the system very close to the two planets, split into two flotillas, with two Shield Tree PlatformShips positioned over the northern pole of each world.

Insults would only entrench the Ascendancy further.

OOC: With one solid IGNORE because I just don't want to deal with you....
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 21:20
OOC: I plan to pay this off in 10-20 NS years, seriously, even he would have to nearly bankrupt his whole nation paying this off in one huge lump sum.

((OC- Everyone else will ignore you if you simply want to play a game of killing off a population just to sell a planet off at a rediculous price. Hell, I didn't even 'do' anything other than position some vessels.

Might want to get used to the fact someone out there in FT world isn't going to let ya boyos just waltz into a system and commit genocide.

And I've been rping here more than long enough to justify every one of my little toys, what have you two done other than profess yourselves as immoral rpers with little chance of respect.

Sorry, you both don't impress me one bit. You just want to win as much as I do, and that is the flat plain truth, so get off you own high horse and PROVE you have a right to act like psychophants with some NPCs no one else has heard about.))
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:25
*stuff*

OOC: You have a telegram by the way explaining everything.
Leafanistan
19-07-2005, 21:33
OOC: Do you agree to the deal of 19.5 trillion over the next 15 years?
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 22:02
((OC- Everyone else will ignore you if you simply want to play a game of killing off a population just to sell a planet off at a rediculous price. Hell, I didn't even 'do' anything other than position some vessels.

Might want to get used to the fact someone out there in FT world isn't going to let ya boyos just waltz into a system and commit genocide.

And I've been rping here more than long enough to justify every one of my little toys, what have you two done other than profess yourselves as immoral rpers with little chance of respect.

Sorry, you both don't impress me one bit. You just want to win as much as I do, and that is the flat plain truth, so get off you own high horse and PROVE you have a right to act like psychophants with some NPCs no one else has heard about.))


Woah, wait a minute. I didn't say anything. I used to muck around, but I am being as serious as I can this time. I haven't made any rediculous calculations, the planets I'm saying I'm going to commit genocide in don't exist as user nations and both are very weak, so I have every right to say that my furturistic technology can wipe them out. I was entering a reasonable negotiation with you, I wasn't saying I was going to mobilize troops against you and I didn't say I wanted to ignore you. I was quite enjoying talking to you in my thread, and I never ever made any point that I wanted to win this. The reason I am acting like a maniac towards this, is that my race is one of the evil one's(you always need a bad guy). They hate any humans because they see them as stupid but secretly fear them because mankind are physically stronger. But mostly because they are an evil corporate enterprise (The Family Vespeterium) who know no morality or pity, and have a cold indifference to life compared to profit. Like I said, I actually thought this was going quite well (for once for one of my threads) and I was enjoying discussing this. Then I leave for half an hour and it goes to hell.
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 22:27
Well, I really have tried my best with this thread. I don't believe I've Godmodded (the races in question don't belong to anybody) and I've tried to be reasonable. But yet I have still incurred hatred.

Anybody else want to respond to this thread?
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 23:07
((OC- I'm going appologize, but not take back anything. I can always back what I said, but not why.

As for the rest, I want to get this all worked out in TG before we go any further. every successful battle or war rp I've been in have been 'all' TGed out. You'd both be surpised how flexible I am.

But twenty trillion? Kay, just know what I said in my last TG, Vespe. This thread just feels like a strange storefront to me, and the NSEconomy thing immediately jumps out when I see a thread like this.))
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 23:11
I'm just over sensitive! :D

Ok, if 20 trillion is too much, since you are a much more experienced RP'er than me (and you are), just inform me next time OOC. I'm always ready to learn.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 23:30
((OC- I'm probably too overbearing, since the good guys seem to get the bad rap too much. The idea was to divert attention away from the planets and start a much wider series of rps.

As for the Ascendancy, humans make up one of the four major races in the Ascendancy, might want to get used to being in contact with them. That and angels in physical form.))
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 23:35
Sure thing. The extensive Family Vespeterium does deal with humans if it leads to profit or... not being killed.

And if you want to start some related RP's then thats fine. I'll go along with it (if you need me involved in them).
Gaian Ascendancy
19-07-2005, 23:47
((OC- If it's profit you want, a strong trade alliance with my Supercluster would do you far more good than two mere planets. And many of them are only half inhabited at most.

Besides, with Ascendancy Zero Point Cores, Fold Drives, Molecular Foundries, and resources beyond measure, profit in trade would benefit you far more. This is the more normal relations of type I usually pursue.

And all this without subjugating a single soul either. Much less kill them. =^^= ))
Draconic Order
19-07-2005, 23:48
((Draconic Order sides with Ascendancy intrests more often then naught. But I was hoping for those ships to show up, Draconic Order loves to ambush expanders.))
Vespeterium Minor
19-07-2005, 23:55
((OC- If it's profit you want, a strong trade alliance with my Supercluster would do you far more good than two mere planets. And many of them are only half inhabited at most.

Besides, with Ascendancy Zero Point Cores, Fold Drives, Molecular Foundries, and resources beyond measure, profit in trade would benefit you far more. This is the more normal relations of type I usually pursue.

And all this without subjugating a single soul either. Much less kill them. =^^= ))

It is a very good idea, but I'm trying to build my reputation in being evil and genocidal. That's just the way I'm planning to go on the RP'ing. Just like you build up being a reasonable and protective. I know my way is a lot more dangerous but I just have more fun that way.
Draconic Order
19-07-2005, 23:56
It is a very good idea, but I'm trying to build my reputation in being evil and genocidal. That's just the way I'm planning to go on the RP'ing. Just like you build up being a reasonable and protective. I know my way is a lot more dangerous but I just have more fun that way.

((You would be suprised how many more nations are evil then good...))
Vespeterium Minor
20-07-2005, 00:00
:D I think many people find being good too restricting. So I have admiration for you lot who have the self control not to declare that you're going to kill everybody in a 500 mile radius.
Gaian Ascendancy
20-07-2005, 00:05
((You would be suprised how many more nations are evil then good...))

((OC- Why else do you think I'm good. It's the good guys that get the girls in the 'real' end. Who was it that won in the end in Star Trek DS9 and Star Wars overall?

Besides, being good 'can' be less restrictive if you play it in a certain way. That's why I have such a warrior culture to go along with the rest of the good guy elements everyon expects.

But I have plans to ensure even the good guy nation gets gutted down the road, and then see it rise a pheonix. Ya'll have to wait down the road for all that though. =^^= ))
Vespeterium Minor
20-07-2005, 00:18
Anyway, I may try and carry this thread on tomorrow.
Neo Zeta
20-07-2005, 00:31
OOC: who really won THe Dominion Wars was The Dominion. Most of its ships were on the other side of the worm hole ^.^ GO DOMINION.
-Bretonia-
20-07-2005, 01:17
OOC: I have no idea why everybody feels a need to be either 'good' or 'evil'. Things are rarely so black and white in reality, nor fiction, yet nearly always here... it seems so limiting.
Vespeterium Minor
20-07-2005, 09:05
But the point is, my guys don't think that they are evil. They have no morality, so they don't understand the entire concept. They wipe out other species simply because, they genuinely think that they have no reason to live. Anything that has an intelligence less than theirs is pointless and therefore, expendable.
Vespeterium Minor
20-07-2005, 20:07
Anyway, back in RP.

'We would like the negotioations to continue, both with the Gaian Ascendancy and (secretly) with those with a view to buy. We are prepared to listen to what the samaritans have to say.'
Gaian Ascendancy
20-07-2005, 20:32
The diplomatic team, after assuring their assets were in place to protect the system if anything went wrong, then began negotiations again, sensing their opponent's perfidity for greed rather than chaos.

There 'was' a better way to conduct all this.

:: ~ It appears to us that you might be looking for more than plain cash. We find that you might see profit in ventures that need not lead to your current course of action.

You seek to sell a planet, when you could have easily attacked and 'kept' the planet for your own already. But if your world wishes to expand further, such tactics will not work elsewhere.

Humans make up a vast portion of the total population of the galaxy, and further beyond than you could realize. That 'stench' is impossible to remove, minus some insepid power or device that destroys 'all' life.

We do not suggest you change your ways, rather, your focus.

We can 'trade' this system and the right to leave these natives in peace, for the right to 'ten' star systems, most of which are dead or developing, with no native life, with total resource equivalent of thrice the amounts you were offering. We will also offer Molecular Foundy technology and Class-I Zero Point Cores to power them, where the very atomic sturcture of space itself can be used as resource material.

We will also offer the same monetary amount you seek, distributed over a 10 NS year period, as well as a prefab fleet yard and dock, and designs for ten old class Ascendancy warships and jumpships.

And 'finally', we can offer a trade agreement where your people will be able to trade for 'any' of the resources within the Ascendancy Sphere. As we command entire galaxies, through mutual alliances of vast types, the tradable commodities within the Archonis Intergalactic Supercluster is immense. To access them, we will supply to your vessels, the Class V Fold drive, to give access across the 700 million light-year distance, to make the trade viable.

All of this, for a few pitiful apes.

What say you. ~ ::
Vespeterium Minor
20-07-2005, 20:39
It seems you know us very well, my dear samaritan. While we are unable to change our outlook on the apes, we will agree to what you are asking. We will agree not to touch or even harm the monkeys in the planned systems. You are a very worthy system, and it is beyond our comprehension as to why you defend these 'things'. But we fully respect your views, and wish to agree to your proposal. We will never bother the humans in this system again. It is funny, how these stupid little men will never know how close they came to death. They don't even know of other species! Respectfully yours.
Saxe Cerrin Sullo Vespeterium, Grand Ambassador of Foreign Affairs.
Draconic Order
21-07-2005, 09:13
((I wonder why Gaia ever gives his technology away... even though I understand the trade offs.))