NationStates Jolt Archive


Hataria Bans Slavery!

Hataria
19-07-2005, 03:29
By Order of The Empress Serena and The Imperial Senate of Hataria

It is Hear by ordered, Slavery is now Baned in Hataria and All Territories of the Empire. All Slaves are hear by freed and the Slave Trade is hear by Baned.

All Slave Traders will Be Arested and Beheaded.

Former Slaves will be Payed 12,000 Rutas (100,000 USD) and given a nice Home.

Anyone owning Slaves and not freeing them as ordered will be Arested and Sent to Jail.

-Empress Serena of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!
Hataria
21-07-2005, 00:39
Bump
Gorkon
21-07-2005, 00:45
Could it be? The Government of Hataria actually making a rational, decent and compassionate move? How very interesting. Well done Empress, keep it up. I see the so-called 'woman's touch' applies to many things.

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian High Command
Haxxoristan
21-07-2005, 00:47
According to NSEconomy, 1 ruta = $1.3804. So 12,000 rutas would only be $16,564.80. A slight anomaly?
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 01:07
By Order of The Empress Serena and The Imperial Senate of Hataria

It is Hear by ordered, Slavery is now Baned in Hataria and All Territories of the Empire. All Slaves are hear by freed and the Slave Trade is hear by Baned.

All Slave Traders will Be Arested and Beheaded.

Former Slaves will be Payed 12,000 Rutas (100,000 USD) and given a nice Home.

Anyone owning Slaves and not freeing them as ordered will be Arested and Sent to Jail.

-Empress Serena of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!

Allemonde is shocked to hear that Hataria has banned slavery. Slavery and Indetured Servitude are a vital part of free-market capitalism. Slaves, servents and serfs are property of thier owners and the government should not interfer with a person's right to property.

Allemondes Slave Laws
Servents: Debtors who work off their debts until paid off but the Debtors can charge up to 400% intrest on thier debts and they have no rights until paid off. Work as servents for rich, well-to-do people.

Slaves: Prisoners and capitives they are unpaid slaves for life and thier children are also slaves and can be forced to have children. They have absolutly no rights and cannot read or write. they also must wear slave-chips and slave tattos saying that they are slaves. Slaves work in Factories

Serfs: Same as slaves but can be taught to read or right and don't have to wear chips or tatoos and are paid very small wages. Occasionaly might be able to become a prole. Serfs work on farms.
Haxxoristan
21-07-2005, 01:25
Haxxoristan is shocked that Allemonde could take such a stance.
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 01:35
Haxxoristan is shocked that Allemonde could take such a stance.

Slavery keeps manufactured and argricultrula prices low. A loaf of bread in Allemonde is only 20 cents, A clothes outfit(shirt & pants) is only $5. This is to keep up with our rapid globilizing world and to keep our price competive with other nations.

Allemonde is an Ayn Rand Obectivist nation.
Haxxoristan
21-07-2005, 01:38
We do much the same job with robots. They're cheaper, they don't rebel, and they can reproduce themselves much more quickly. Also, what about the human cost, asshole?
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 01:43
They cost alot of money to make.(About $5000 per robot) can only do certian things like paint cars or fuse something together so you still need humans and also need to be repaired or serviced constantly. More Advanced robots would need to nearly human(which is right now not possible) and would probly have human like emotions and could possibly rebel(Animatrix:The Second Rennissance) if treated like slaves. If a human gets sick or dies it's replaced and what happens to the old one is of no concern to the owner.(if it's sick it usually is kicked out and left to die.)


OOC: By the way we're talking RP and I don't really think this way!
Haxxoristan
21-07-2005, 01:49
Oh no. The robots are too stupid to rebel. They can manufacture each other, though, and they can repair each other. They only cost about $2000 material-equivalent to manufacture. Of course, they can mine the resources themselves...Mainly, the robots work in mining and manufacturing and so on. They can harvest the neccesary resources, process them, and construct things. They can build more robots, upgrade themselves, and repair each other! Far better than some stupid stinky slaves.
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 01:58
They could also evolve or could be improved to have human like emotions for better productivity which like I said above could lead to a "Second Rennissance" like rebellion and with metallic bodies would be hard to kill or destroy. Simple robots like we have today are best only for very fast or very difficult skill like fusing a chasis of a car or assembling something extremly fast.

BTW: This is a little off the topic.
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 02:07
Plus what would all the people who cannot get jobs because they can't grasp something as simple as basic math or reading(70% of the population) do for a job? most people are too dumb to be taught anything more than basic math (+, - * /) and very basic reading! You would have enormous unemployment and possle rebellion. If you keep them occupied working 12-15 hours a day they don't have time to rebel.

If they have commited a crime or gotten into a debt they need to pay for what they did and a plus side that it doesn't involve the government or taxes since they are owned buy companies or a person.

Serfs are the only exeption. They were migrant workers usually a mixture of white/ Native Allemondian people who were givien a choice of being a serf or starving to death.
Haxxoristan
21-07-2005, 02:30
A good part of the population works in the service industries, and also managing the robots. I mean, you need doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers, clerks, priests, soldiers, sailors, pilots, marines, teachers, data-entry clerks, fast-food fry cooks...Plus, we've accounted for robot evolution. ;)
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 02:41
Generally only about 30% of the population make up both sevice workers and businessmen who make up the Bourgeois classes. About 50% make up manufacturing workers(90% slave 10% free who make up the foremens) who make up the Prole Class. Only 15% of the population is made up of Serfs and Indentured Servent classes. The last 5% is made up of the Nobility and Patrician classes.

Currently Allemonde's population is 4.064 billion people so that would mean that we have 1.8288 billion slaves.
Haxxoristan
21-07-2005, 02:51
If you want, we can trade slaves for robots.
Belem
21-07-2005, 02:52
We are quite displeased that Hataria has turned its back against a quite lucrative and profitable business. We would like to know if it would be possible to purchase any of the slaves before they are official made free.
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 03:01
We do sell our slaves to other nations for profit Hexx but we don't want any robots in our nation exept very very simple ones. We can't just arbortally sell 45% of our population and like I said before they are expenive to buy and need costly repair and service.
Omicron Alpha
21-07-2005, 03:02
"Greetings. The Employment Analysis Department of Omicron Alpha Government Incorporated constantly works to find the most efficient method of staff management for the betterment of the global economy.

Slavery was deemed an inefficient source of human resources for any business ventures except for short-term, high-risk projects. Staff fatality rate is too high due to poor conditions, staff efficiency rating is too low due to lack of health and morale, and having all of the associated living costs provided by the owner further reduces profit. In addition to costing more than paid workers, slaves are not capable of serving the national economy as consumers.

While paid labour costs more per person than slavery, fewer paid workers are required to achieve the same output due to efficiency and morale problems. While health improvement and morale boosting programs can help increase slave efficiency, the increased costs of these programs renders these improvements moot. This is saying nothing of the social implications of slavery, which can carry risks of violent protests or rebellions both from within and without, not to mention socially-minded communist scum blacklisting your company for 'unethical practice'.

In short, slavery is not an efficient source of profit, and any businesses which are not operating in the interests of profit are not permitted to establish branches within our economic borders. As such we praise the Hatarian government and any supporting nations or businesses. Any groups against a ban on slavery are not operating in the interests of profit, and thus are not permitted within Omicron Alpha economic borders whilst operating under such a policy.

Thank you for your time, and have a pleasant and profitable day."

MD Samantha Carrey
Employment Analysis Department,
Omicron Alpha Government Incorporated
Allemonde
21-07-2005, 03:21
"Greetings. The Employment Analysis Department of Omicron Alpha Government Incorporated constantly works to find the most efficient method of staff management for the betterment of the global economy.

Slavery was deemed an inefficient source of human resources for any business ventures except for short-term, high-risk projects. Staff fatality rate is too high due to poor conditions, staff efficiency rating is too low due to lack of health and morale, and having all of the associated living costs provided by the owner further reduces profit. In addition to costing more than paid workers, slaves are not capable of serving the national economy as consumers.

While paid labour costs more per person than slavery, fewer paid workers are required to achieve the same output due to efficiency and morale problems. While health improvement and morale boosting programs can help increase slave efficiency, the increased costs of these programs renders these improvements moot. This is saying nothing of the social implications of slavery, which can carry risks of violent protests or rebellions both from within and without, not to mention socially-minded communist scum blacklisting your company for 'unethical practice'.

In short, slavery is not an efficient source of profit, and any businesses which are not operating in the interests of profit are not permitted to establish branches within our economic borders. As such we praise the Hatarian government and any supporting nations or businesses. Any groups against a ban on slavery are not operating in the interests of profit, and thus are not permitted within Omicron Alpha economic borders whilst operating under such a policy.

Thank you for your time, and have a pleasant and profitable day."

MD Samantha Carrey
Employment Analysis Department,
Omicron Alpha Government Incorporated

In reality sweatshops are a form of slavery. We still have a high productivity and morale due to the use of electric "slave collars". Our slaves have a lifespan of about 50 years when most usually die but they also produce anywhere for 7-15 chidren that are then used to produce replacement slaves. Most owners do provide stimulents and vitiamins to improve health.

As far as anti-slavery activists, most are shunned and if too vocal or violent they are made slaves themselves.
Deep Core Nations
21-07-2005, 03:24
The Republic of Deep Core Nations announces that we are very pleased to hear that your workers will now receive a wage, as this will allow them to buy our many fine products and services. We commend the fine country of Hataria!

-Republican Intersectorial and Commerce Bureaus