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China was the world's most populous nation for hundreds of years. China has had a history older than most European nations, going back to the times of Ancient Egyptians and Babylonians. Yet, China was not an international power such as Europeans and the United States by 1900 as China was considered a Third World nation. However, this would all change in a far different way, and alter the future of the world irrevocably.

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1898 AD:

China had begun to work out several new reforms in education and infrastructure. One educational step included the great public examinations, which had been conducted on much the same system for seven or eight centuries past, were to be modified by the introduction of subjects suggested by recent intercourse with Western nations. There was to be a university in Peking, and the temples, which cover the empire in all directions, were to be closed to religious services and opened for educational purposes. Railroads were being considered to be employed on a larger scale, as per the order of the Emperor. However, complications arose due from foreigners.

To boost these bold reforms, a plot was conceived, under which the Empress Dowager was to be arrested and imprisoned, as the Empress was a traditionalist, resistant to modernization. However, this plot was betrayed by Yuan Shih-k`ai, and the Empress turned the tables by suddenly arresting and imprisoning the Emperor, and promptly decapitating all the conspirators, with the exception of K`ang Yu-wei, who succeeded in escaping. He had been the moving spirit of the abortive revolution as he was a fine scholar, and had completely gained the ear of the Emperor. China, for the third time in history, passed under the dominion of a woman.

(Point of Divergence)

Prince Tuan grew in anti-foreigner feelings, ideology, and beliefs right after the failed plot. The promised reforms were cancelled by the Empress, further fueling Prince Tuan's anger. Prince Tuan felt that the only way to compete aganist the foreigners was to learn about them, their ideologies, beliefs, sciences, customs, and so forth.

He recalled a passage of the ancient Chinese philosopher, Sun Tzu, that perfectly applied to this very situation.

"Know thine own enemy."

Prince Tuan began to gather covert support aganist the Empress, learning from the mistakes of the first failed coup plot. His followers adopted Sun Tzu's teachings, and formed a core of supporters. Prince Tuan also began speaking to the Chinese peasants at festivities, instilling the ideology of Sun Tzu and Confucius. The peasants spread the ideologies throughout their home villages, which eventually created a popular support base for Prince Tuan's planned coup.



1899 AD:

The Confucius and Sun Tzu teachings continued to spread throughout the Chinese populace, providing even additional fuel towards the Boxer Rebellion. The Chinese populace hated the foreigner missionaries, citizens, and officials as they enjoyed rights and access priviliges that they did not deserve. The Boxers acted upon the populace's distrust and resistance towards Christianity as the Chinese believed that Christianity veils aggression and expansion under the guise of religion, with no respect for traditions. The Chinese also felt that Christianity was a major threat to their millennia old culture and traditions, re-writing the Chinese to follow Europeans beliefs, ideals, cultures, and traditions.

The Boxers continued to grow in strength, however, unlike in actual history, they did enjoy a growing popular support thanks to Prince Tuan's efforts of speading the teachings of Sun Tzu and Confucius. More and more Chinese nobles, officials, and leaders began to gravitate towards Prince Tuan as they remembered the injustices of the Opium Wars and seeing a potential chance to finally break free of foreigner oppression.



1900 AD: (Start date of Alternate Earth 1900 - 2000 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424002))

The Boxer Rebellion grows into a full blown rebellion aganist foreign occupation. Many churches and large amounts of property of foreign nationals are looted, burned, and destroyed. The countryside became rife with the hit-and-run gurriella tactics employed by the Boxers, putting all foreign nationals and missionaries at risk. Prince Tuan decides to order the Imperial Army to escort all foreign nationals back to three major cities with foreign presence already established, Peking, Shanghai, and Tienstin. This act seemed to appease, yet annoy the Great Powers, including Britain and the United States.

The Great Powers engaged in forceful diplomacy, making pointed requests and serving semi-ultimatums. Britain and the United States began sending more military personnel and forces into China under the guise of "protection" as they demanded the Chinese government to do something about the Boxer Rebellion. Several skirmishes occurred throughout the countryside, much to the Chinese Imperial Army's chargin, as they were ill-equipped to combat gurriella warfare. The flow of foreigners began, amid intense diplomatic manuevering by Prince Tuan.

The Dowager Empress Cixi continued to lose her power and influence, as Prince Tuan continued to prove himself over and over during the Boxer Crisis. Tuan's diplomacy was conducted behind Cixi's back, as he knew that Cixi would interfere and cause the destruction of China due to her old traditional and un-bending ways. The Great Powers began to acknowledge Prince Tuan as the true ruler of China, as the diplomatic wrangling continued well into late in the year.

Near the end of the year, France unexpectedly withdrew all its interests from China, and Germany was relatively silent. France appeared to have several major governmental issues, which sapped French power and resources. Germany did not engage in either diplomacy or military action during the Boxer Crisis, due to pressing European concerns, mostly France and Austria-Hungary.

With the withdrawal of France, and the lackluster activity from Germany, the remaining Great Powers, Britain and America found themselves the only major European players in China, not counting Russia which engaged in limited diplomacy and continued military build-up aganist Manchuria and possibly Korea.



1901 AD:

The Boxer leadership approached Prince Tuan in secret, believing that he did actually have the ambition, talent, and drive to lead China into a new age, free of foreigner oppression. Prince Tuan seizes this opprounity to use the Boxers as a tool instead of a nuisance, thus, he provided the Boxer leadership with intelligence on foreign assets and garrisons. Several more minor skirmishes occurred, with surprisingly low casaulties for the Boxers and the Chinese Imperial Army. The surprise raids caused Britain and the United States to demand more concessions, asking that the Chinese Imperial Army guard vital transportation hubs to protect foreign trade, nationals, and investments.

Prince Tuan asks the Boxer leadership to greatly decrease their attacks in an attempt to decieve the Westerners into believing that the Imperial Army managed to crush the Boxer Rebellion. The Boxer leadership was uncomfortable with the request, as it went aganist everything that the Boxers believed in. However, masterful dialog and diplomacy by Prince Tuan finally convinced the majority of the leadership of the importance of the plan. Several Boxer leaders disagreed, and continued their raids aganist foreign nationals, thus creating a second but short lived Boxer rebellion. The second uprising was easily crushed, thanks to increasing popular support for Prince Tuan, as well as the increasing experience of the Imperial Army in combatting gurriella warfare.

During this time, Japan and Korea sent secret diplomatic overtures to China, seeking to enter an Asian alliance, to band together aganist non-Asian powers. Prince Tuan agrees to a secret meeting, and reaches an agreement with Japan. The agreement was that Japan were to become the masters of the Pacific Ocean and its multitudes of islands, while China becomes the masters of mainland Asia.

Britain and the United States took note of China's efforts to protect foreigners and the elimination of the majority of the Boxer Rebellion. Both nations offered Prince Tuan a deal of aid and military withdrawal for promises to keep China open to foreign trade and nationals. Prince Tuan agrees to the deal, as he knew foreign investment and aid would be needed to industrialize China in the coming years. Intense diplomacy took place to assuage the nervous Boxer leadership, the Chinese populace, and the anti-foreigner factions within China. Prince Tuan finally manages to convince them through logic and practicality, as he made it clear that China needed to adopt Westerner technologies, sciences, and economics to truly become a modern power capable of fighting Westerners to a standstill should an actual Euro-China War or American-China War ever take place.

Britain and the United States began withdrawing troops and military assets as a gesture of goodwill, and begins sending railroad engineers and material to aid China in constructing a trade and transportation network, a vital step towards full industrialization. The fact that the Westerners began withdrawing from China and then sharing their secrets of industrialization gave Prince Tuan enormous boost in prestige, respect, and support throughout China. Dowager Empress Cixi's power and prestige was completely destroyed as people viewed her as nothing more than a relic of times past, and this gave Prince Tuan the perfect opporunity to take the next step.

Prince Tuan declared himself Emperor, and founded a new dynasty in China, the Guozu / Kuo-tsu Dynasty on Novemeber 24, 1901. This endeavour brought support from nearly the entirety of China, as Prince Tuan had become something akin to a hero or a legend, doing what had been thought impossible several years ago. Even the Westerners voiced their support of Tuan's dynasty, which spoke volumes of Tuan's leadership and international reputation. The aging Dowager Empress Cixi was stripped of all her power, prestige, offices, and Imperial status then sent out to live in exile.

The secret talks with Korea and Japan would continue early in the next year once Emperor Tuan consolidated his dynasty.

As the year drew to a close, China was unified under an intelligent, ambitious, open-minded, and honorable leader. The Guozu Dynasty had been formed, railroads were beginning to be built throughout China and providing hundreds of thousands of jobs, and China was well on its way to industrialization.



1902 AD:

At the beginning of the year, one of Emperor Tuan's first acts as Emperor was to re-institute the aborted reforms of 1898 that Empress Cixi rejected. Temples were opened as schools throughout China, and public examinations began in earnest. Many Westerner science textbooks including Chemistry, metallurgy, electronics, physics, medicine, among others, were either collected or purchased, then translated into Chinese. These books were re-printed and distributed throughout the temple-schools being opened. Millions upon millions of children were finally given the opporunity for education for the first time, thanks to Emperor Tuan's edict.

Construction of railroads continues to proceed, expanding China's railroad infrastructure by three-fold within the first few months of the year. Prior to the Boxer Crisis, China only had one operational railroad operating between Peking and Tienstin. Several more cities were slated to be connected via railroad by the end of the year, with dozens more within the next few years.

Chinese scientists and engineers imported dynamite from America, which aided in railroad construction and development of mines immensely. China opened its first dynamite plant in July, with plans for several more to be built in the following years. It is hoped that by opening multiple dynamite factories, China will gain a viable export resource to enrich its treasury, as dynamite is growing in popularity and demand worldwide.

Plans are drawn up for massive mining projects in Mongolia and Manchuria, especially that the the threat of the Japanese has been reduced sonsiderably with the signing of an China-Japan alliance, as well as a tentative peace with Russia. Massive damming projects are planned to greatly improve irrigation and the agricultural sector, allowing China to increase food yields. With the food surplus, despite it having one-thirds of the entire world's population, China could open up a new source of exports to Westerner nations or the food-starved areas of Africa.



1903 AD:

China continues to aggressively seek industrialization, as it constructs three more dynamite plants, and opens its first several major mining operations in Mongolia. The remainder of the Westerner forces withdraw from China, allowing China to re-integrate itself with no foreign interference or partitons for the first time in several decades. The alliance with Japan begins to solidify, as the Westerners turn their attentions back towards brewing situations in Europe.

Britain and the United States continue to supply China with firearms, machinery, factory equipment, and railroad materials. China begins construction on a railroad to link its mining projects in Mongolia to the cental cities of Peking and Shanghai. Several more branches are planned as new factories are planned to be built throughout several urban areas such as Canton, Luo-Yang, Tienstin, among others.

China begins large scale mining expeditions in Mongolia, to discover new veins of iron, coal, copper, nickel, tungsten, aluminum, and other vital industrial metals, minerals, and resources. The Emperor approves construction on the foundation of the first dam on the Yangtze River, and construction begins late in the year.

1904 AD:

(More to come)

Reserved Timeline (For 1925 - 1959)

Reserved Timeline (For 1960 - 1999)

Reserved Timeline (For 2000 onwards)

Information on China:

Formal name: Sovereign Republic of China

National territory: China, Mongolia, Tibet, Manchuria, Hainan Dao, Taiwan, and Hong Kong.

Population: 490 million (estimated as per 1945 Census. Next Census to be held in 1960 and every 10 years thereafter).

Tech Level: 7.5 (Technology comparable to real life Vietnam War era)

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Chinese Economy for the year:

1959 economy:

485 industry
53 commerce points (maximum of 40 merchant points, 10 airline points, and 3 satellite points)
7 oil points
10 nuclear points
1 Ethanol point
20 tourism income (maximum)

Total: 569 income points for 1959.

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Chinese Defense Forces (As of 1959):

20 Infantry Corps (1,000,000 infantry)
10 Artillery Corps (1,000 artillery guns)
10 Armored Corps (1,000 tanks)
10 Mechanized Flak Corps (1,000 flak / anti-aircraft vehicles)
24 Units of Dassault Mirage III Jet Fighters (2,400 fighters)
12 Units of Kirin Strategic Jet Bombers (1,200 bombers)
42 Units of Pilots (6 units as surplus)
10 HQ Units (Approximately 500,000 command + control personnel)

Projected 1959 Military Maintainence Costs:

98 points for 1959.

10 points for 20 Infantry Corps (40 divisions)
10 points for 10 Armored Corps (20 divisions)
10 points for 10 Mechanized Artillery Corps (20 divisions)
10 points for 10 Mechanized Flak Corps (20 divisions)
24 points for 24 Units of Dassault Mirage III’s
24 points for 12 Units of Kirin Strategic Bombers
10 points for 10 HQ Units.

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China's Technological Status:

Overall Achievements:

1. Rural Electrification Completed.
2. Level 4 Biological / Chemical Weapons Capability.
3. Large ICBM Capability.
4. All Airports in China are now Jet-Capable.
5. Electronics Industry is flourishing.

Nuclear Capability:

1. A-Bomb Capability.
2. H-Bomb Capability.
3. Nuclear Fueling technology developed.
4. Boosted Nuclear Weapons technology developed.
5. Capability to construct and sustain nuclear power plants.

Space Capability:

1. Space Mission Control Center, infrastructure, and launch pads established.
2. Capability to send probes and manned missions into outer space.
3. Gemini mission capability.
4. Communication Satellites.
5. Spy Satellites.

Under Research:

1. Level 5 Biological / Chemical Weapons (2 more years)
2. Micro-Electronics / Computers Industry (9 more years).
3. Tactical Nuclear Weapons (2 more years).
4. Advanced Pollution Controls (5 more years).

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Chinese International Affairs:

Treaties / Organizations:

Permanent UN Security Member (UN veto power)
Seoul Conference Treaty (+1% Economic Growth)

Alliances:

Gran Colombia / FNS
Korea
USEA

Friendly Terms (Favored status):

Egypt
Syria
Japan
South Africa
Australia

Neutral:

Everyone else.

Wary:

Russia

War:

None.

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Tech Level Advancement Status:

Next Technology Level: 8.

Requirements (Red = not met. Blue = met):

4 out of 7 conditions met to advance to Tech Level 8.

1. Level 3+ social spending for at least 10 years
(Condition will be met in 1961)

2. Has reached at least 75% of economic productivity maximum for at least 5 years
(China will be at 49% of its economic productivity by 1959)

3. Created a communications satellite network alone or be paying a portion of the cost of one.
(Condition met since 1956)

4. Has the ability to build nuclear power plants.
(Condition met since 1953)

5. Has an airline and tourist industry.
(Condition met since 1948)

6. Electronics Industry developed.
(Condition met since 1957)

6. Micro-Electronics (or Computers) Industry developed.
(Year 1 of 10. Condition will be met by 1967)

Please post diplomatic offers, links to RP's involving yourself and China (my nation), and any other international stuff that involves China in this thread. :)

OoC: Except for the Dynasty Name, which as a Chinese-speaker I still have problems with, it looks reasonable--keeping things quiet and building up. You did neglect to mention Russian activities in Manchuria, which consist of improving the transportation network and establishing mining and logging concerns and other industries, as well as Chinese income from the province's lease and the naval base at Port Arthur.
And speaking of Russian activities in Manchuria, there may be trouble with Austria, which has bases in Korea. The Emperor will be notified of this, and of the possibility that Russian troops will again enter Manchuria "to defend Chinese sovereignty and our mutual interstests in the area." I hope that won't be a problem.
And this is my lasy rant on the subject. After this I'll shut up.
Guozu means "Father of the Country." It cannot be used for the name of a family. Traditionally, a Chinese emperor would change his formal personal name upon his accession to the throne. The name of his dynasty would not be the same as the name of his family, let alone the name of him personally. His original personal name would never be used after he became emperor.
If he had been born as Li Shimin, for instance, and became an emperor in the Tang dynasty, he would have changed his name to Tang (the dynasty) Taizong (his formal personal name), and no-one would ever call him Shimin unless they wanted to lose their head.
Please, read the links:
their Personal (including Family) Name, which was never used.
There are some good articles in Wikipedia for reference.
Temple Name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_name)
Era Name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_era_name)
How to Read the Titles of a Chinese Sovereign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_sovereign)
and, for good measure,
The Qing (Manchu) Dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_Dynasty)
Or at least just tell me you've read them and decided to ignore them. But, for the last time, naming an entire dynasty "Father of Country" makes no more sense in Chinese than it does in English.
Okay. I'm done.

To: Emperor Tuan
From: Emperor Mitsuhito
RE: IndoChina

My friend and Ally I implore you to prevent arms smuggling into Indochina, as it stands right now I have signed a treaty of alliance with France and My nation is willing to defend her Colonial possesion in IndoChina if only to keep other foreign nations from getting involved i.e. Germany, Britain. So I must implore you to keep your borders with that region secure. My naval forces will be employed to prevent naval smuggling and if you can secure the overland route the rebellion would crushed shortly. And in the future we can work out with France a way of them seperating from their colonies peacefully and be able to influence the growth of Asian nations ourselves.

Notes to the Japanese and Chinese governments..

"The Secretary of State, John Hay, wishes to visit with your government to discuss matters of mutual interest."

OOC: Because of Vas's correction concerning the Chinese emperor's name--which I think happened earlier--I'm going to call the emperor Gouzu. I'd say you just call the dynasty "Tian" (heavenly? I don't speak Chinese, just heard tian is heavenly) and the emperor's formal name "Gouzu." Thus his name would be Tian Gouzu. Why Tian? They have this "mandate of heaven" stuff, and calling your dynasty "heavenly" certainly invokes that.
IC:
To: Emperor Gouzu
From: Tomaso Tittoni, Italian Minister of Foreign Affairs

Greetings, Emperor Gouzu. We believe your nation could use a stronger merchant fleet, to help carry the goods of China across all the world's oceans. We, therefore, are willing to produce for China 50,000 tons of merchant vessels in exchange for $26 million. Also, Italy produces warships, and if China is interested, we could arrange to have those constructed, if it so pleases China.

Notes to the Japanese and Chinese governments..

"The Secretary of State, John Hay, wishes to visit with your government to discuss matters of mutual interest."

To: Secretary of State Hay
From:Emperor Mutsihito
RE: Matters of interest

The Japanese Government is very interested in discussing matters of Mutual Interest and proposes a Summit with the Chinese and your country very soon on the Island of Formosa

Secret Comminque to the United States and Japan.
From: Emperor Guozu

Greetings.

I am willing to attend a summit between China, Japan, and the United States in Formosa Island. It is my hope that this may be a sign of a stronger bond between our people, and a new beginning of a growing relationship between ourselves.

I shall bring 100 pounds of China's finest silk to celebrate this occassion. I look forward to our meeting.

~Emperor Guozu

Comminque to the Italians.
From: Emperor Guozu

Greetings.

Your deal seems quite reasonable. Would you be willing to send several delegates to Peking so that we may discuss this deal in person and in more detail? Please inform me as promptly as possible.

~Emperor Guozu

shortly after receiving the telegrams from the Japanese and Chinese government, Secretary of State Hay boarded a fast liner in San Francisco, and was on his way. (Making him the highest ranking American currently holding office to leave the country in history so far, a really big courtesy to both the Japanese and Chinese)

ooc
leaving in October, he won't get to Formosa until late November, travel times and all

To: The Chinese Government
From: The Italian Government

Yes, Italy would be willing to send delegates to Peking to discuss the deal in more detail. We have dispatched our fastest passenger liner to China with ten Italian delegates. We hope to have our delegates in China in a few weeks, where we can begin negotiations over the merchant vessels and possible warships.

A telegram soon arrived from Seoul, bearing a message for the Chinese Emperor:

To: Emperor Gouzu
From: Emperor Goong

Greetings from Korea. I would like to ask if a trade agreement or an alliance, or the combination of the two, would be in your interest.

A telegram soon arrived from Seoul, bearing a message for the Chinese Emperor:

To: Emperor Gouzu
From: Emperor Goong

Greetings from Korea. I would like to ask if a trade agreement or an alliance, or the combination of the two, would be in your interest.

Comminque to Korea
From: Emperor Guozu

Greetings.

I would like to extend an invitation for Korean diplomats to arrive at the Forbidden Palace so tha we may discuss your proposals in person and in more detail.

Live well.

~Emperor Guozu

Comminque to Korea
From: Emperor Guozu

Greetings.

I would like to extend an invitation for Korean diplomats to arrive at the Forbidden Palace so tha we may discuss your proposals in person and in more detail.

Live well.

~Emperor Guozu

To: Emperor Guozu
From: Emperor Gojong

Very well, we will send a diplomatic team, headed by my son, Prince Gang. He is a good person, and assuredly, will work to benefit both of our sides.

(OOC: Assuming they have met with Chinese officials)

The Italian ambassadors arrived in the Forbidden City, headed by Vittorio Besculoni. Vittorio bowed curtly to the Chinese officials, knowing that bowing was their custom. They wouldn't want to offend potential customers.

"I am very sorry that we were late. Our ship was stuck in a storm, and the going was slow for quite some time. But now that we have finally arrived, we may begin negotiations for merchant ships, warships, and infantry weapons. Our offer for 50,000 tons of merchant shipping for $26 million still stands, but we can offer a few of our older battleships, plus cruisers and destroyers, for sale. Our expertise in the construction of shipyards is also for sale."

OOC: I don't know if I have an embassy there or not. I'm going to assume so and thus have a diplomat contact you.

From: German Embassy in Peking
To: Court of the Emperor

The Fatherland has noticed with interest that the Chinese Army is lacking both in weapons and training. Germany would be willing to provide both, for a cost of course! Our standard rifle is the Mauser 98 using 7.62mm ammunition. We also sell 7.7cm and 15.5cm artillery pieces. Lastly, we can offer the finest training in the world from several dozen officers and NCOs. The price, however, is negotiable.

(OOC: Assuming they have met with Chinese officials)

The Italian ambassadors arrived in the Forbidden City, headed by Vittorio Besculoni. Vittorio bowed curtly to the Chinese officials, knowing that bowing was their custom. They wouldn't want to offend potential customers.

"I am very sorry that we were late. Our ship was stuck in a storm, and the going was slow for quite some time. But now that we have finally arrived, we may begin negotiations for merchant ships, warships, and infantry weapons. Our offer for 50,000 tons of merchant shipping for $26 million still stands, but we can offer a few of our older battleships, plus cruisers and destroyers, for sale. Our expertise in the construction of shipyards is also for sale."

Emperor Guozu welcomed the Italian ambassadors into the throne room after the customary round of bowing, and motioned for the Italians to be seated. Several servants entered the chamber and set down tea pots and small plates of cooked Chinese rice before each Italian ambassador, making sure that the ambassadors were comfortable. Once the servants left, the Emperor locked eyes with each one of the Italians, drawing them into the atmosphere, before speaking.

"Greetings. I am honored to host all of you here at the Forbidden City.

I would like to discuss several ideas and proposals that I have been mulling over since your initial overtures several months ago. I believe that it is time for Chinese - Italian relations to improve towards a better future.

First of all. your offer of 50,000 tons of merchant shipping. China is prepared to pay the approximate of 26 million US dollars. However, I have several ideas how to insitiute payment. Perhaps China could ship extra silk, coal, and foodstuffs to Italy as either an partial or full payment of the 26 million dollars? From what I hear, Italy is in need of coal for its factories, and foodstuffs as Italy is not exactly the most arable farmland with all of its hills and mountains.

Second, your offer of selling several cruisers and battleships is much appreciated. We are seeking to modernize our Navy, especially with China's recent full independence and a much needed defense of its shores aganist any hostile nation or pirates. I have recieved reports of several pirate cartels operating in the China Sea, and I suspect Japan may be behind the piracy.

Finally, China is actively seeking to construct a shipbuilding sector. Any Italian assistance would be greatly appreciated in this endeavour. In return for Italian assistance, we are prepared to offer support to your shipbuilding efforts. If we are able to construct ships in China, we would be happy to build several Italian ships for you, to free up your shipyards at home for more pressing tasks or more important naval warships.

What are your thoughts on those proposals?"

The Emperor leaned back slowly, and awaited the responses of the Italians.

"We find China's stance to be quite agreeable, but will only allow 75% of China's order to be paid in coal, as Italy is greatly lacking in coal.

Italy is willing to sell China one of Italy's newest designs. In fact, these ships have just been laid this year and are not expected to see service until 1908. They would even be quite handy against the battleships of Russia and Japan. They are our Savoy class battleships. As they are quite new and will require new keels to be laid, it could be some time before they actually enter production. Each will cost $15 million. We can squeeze in about three Savoys into our shipyards for China, with any further Savoys requiring patience on China's part. Cruisers (Vettor Pisani-class) will run at $4.5 million each, with $1 million per Nembo-class destroyer.

As for helping construct shipyards, Italy will build a 50,000 ton shipyard (using Chinese labor, of course) for $40 million. This will incur no profit, because the value of off-loading merchant ship production to China is far more valuable than money or strategic resources. It'll take three years to build a shipyard from start to finish. If China is interested in waiting, we can begin construction on any Savoys purchased by China immediatly, while China waits for the new shipyards to begin operation. Once they begin operation, the Chinese cruisers, destroyers, and merchant shipping can be constructed there."

"We find China's stance to be quite agreeable, but will only allow 75% of China's order to be paid in coal, as Italy is greatly lacking in coal.

Italy is willing to sell China one of Italy's newest designs. In fact, these ships have just been laid this year and are not expected to see service until 1908. They would even be quite handy against the battleships of Russia and Japan. They are our Savoy class battleships. As they are quite new and will require new keels to be laid, it could be some time before they actually enter production. Each will cost $15 million. We can squeeze in about three Savoys into our shipyards for China, with any further Savoys requiring patience on China's part. Cruisers (Vettor Pisani-class) will run at $4.5 million each, with $1 million per Nembo-class destroyer.

As for helping construct shipyards, Italy will build a 50,000 ton shipyard (using Chinese labor, of course) for $40 million. This will incur no profit, because the value of off-loading merchant ship production to China is far more valuable than money or strategic resources. It'll take three years to build a shipyard from start to finish. If China is interested in waiting, we can begin construction on any Savoys purchased by China immediatly, while China waits for the new shipyards to begin operation. Once they begin operation, the Chinese cruisers, destroyers, and merchant shipping can be constructed there."

Emperor Guozu nodded thoughtfully.

"I agree with your proposals.

China shall pay 75% of the order money for these projects in coal. Perhaps this could aid your shipbuilding efforts at home considerably? As for the Savoy class battleships, China appreciates the offer, and gratefully accepts.

How about we plan the following?

1. Construct a 50,000 ton capacity shipyard near Shanghai.

2. Italy constructs 3 Savoy battleships and have them ready by 1908 or 1909.

3. Merchant ship, destroyer, cruiser, et al. are to be built upon the completion of China's 50,000 ton capacity shipyard near Shanghai.

4. Any additional ships you could spare or sell would be greatly appreciated. China can be quite patient, for we have always known patience is a virtue.

Would this plan be acceptable to all involved?"

"This agreement is acceptable, although we do have some concerns that China wouldn't have enough tonnage to build all planned ships at the same time. We believe building a second 50,000 ton capacity shipyard will provide optimal capacity for China; it would allow the construction of all cruisers, destroyers, and merchant ships at the same time. Also, it would allow China, as Italy has, to sell ships using the spare capacity. But that is purely up to China, and we will begin construction of both the Shanghai shipyard and Savoys shortly regardless."

"This agreement is acceptable, although we do have some concerns that China wouldn't have enough tonnage to build all planned ships at the same time. We believe building a second 50,000 ton capacity shipyard will provide optimal capacity for China; it would allow the construction of all cruisers, destroyers, and merchant ships at the same time. Also, it would allow China, as Italy has, to sell ships using the spare capacity. But that is purely up to China, and we will begin construction of both the Shanghai shipyard and Savoys shortly regardless."

The Emperor leaned back, digesting this latest offer from the Italians. After just a moment, he responded in a calm voice.

"A second shipyard would indeed be profitable for both of our nations. We would be more than happy to aid you in your shipyard building efforts once those docks are completed, assuming that China will have spare room left over, and Italy is still swamped with shipbuilding orders."

"We thank China for offering the use of the shipyards, if there is any spare capacity left. It appears as if China is to build a large and powerful navy then, and we hope that China's endeavor is sucessful.

We hope to begin construction of the Savoys and shipyards within the week, with Italian engineers to arrive in China within a few weeks. May our agreement bring prosperity to our two nations."

OOC: I don't want to interrupt the Emperor, but I just wanted to make sure I'm next :p

"We thank China for offering the use of the shipyards, if there is any spare capacity left. It appears as if China is to build a large and powerful navy then, and we hope that China's endeavor is sucessful.

We hope to begin construction of the Savoys and shipyards within the week, with Italian engineers to arrive in China within a few weeks. May our agreement bring prosperity to our two nations."

Emperor Guozu gave the Italians a geniune smile.

"Your cooperation is much appreciated. China never forgets its friends, as friendship is a commodity growing more precious as each year passes by. I look forward to the improvement of Italian - Chinese relations in the coming years.

I have some other matters to attend to, but please feel free to take a tour of Peking, and China's national landmarks before you return to Italy. If you have any additional questions or offers, feel free to contact my diplomatic offices then set up another conference.

Once again, it has been quite an honor meeting with you and reaching a profitable agreement between our two peoples. Live well and prosper!"

The Emperor gave the Italians a bow of the head, as a sign of respect and dismissal.

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OOC:

You're up, Parthini. :)

Ambassador Marc Kinast was standing at the gate waiting. He was told that the Chinese Emperor needed guns, and was to make sure that Germany makes them. The door opened and an Italian minister stepped out and Kinast's spine tingled. "Schweinehundtz", he muttered. The Italian barely took notice. He then pulled out a list of German weapons that could be manufactured, and began to read them, without interest.

Parthini']Ambassador Marc Kinast was standing at the gate waiting. He was told that the Chinese Emperor needed guns, and was to make sure that Germany makes them. The door opened and an Italian minister stepped out and Kinast's spine tingled. "Schweinehundtz", he muttered. The Italian barely took notice. He then pulled out a list of German weapons that could be manufactured, and began to read them, without interest.

Emperor Guozu summoned a retainer and spoke to him in a somewhat rushed tone of voice.

"Bring in the German ambassador. I would like to hold the conference promptly."

The retainer bowed, his head nearly touching the floor, before he depared to call upon the Germans.

A small Chinaman stepped out and asked Kinast to join the Emperor. The Ambassador waved off the guards and they went back to the Embassy.

Kinast was amazed at all the wealth of China, and how much of it was in this place. Then, before him stood the Emperor of China. He bowed until he almost fell over and then rose. "It is an honor to meet you, oh majestic emperor!"

Parthini']A small Chinaman stepped out and asked Kinast to join the Emperor. The Ambassador waved off the guards and they went back to the Embassy.

Kinast was amazed at all the wealth of China, and how much of it was in this place. Then, before him stood the Emperor of China. He bowed until he almost fell over and then rose. "It is an honor to meet you, oh majestic emperor!"

Emperor Guozu smiled at the German.

"Greetings.

Before we get down to business, would you like any refreshment or anything? I pride myself on my hospitality."

"You know, I have not had Chinese tea, if you would be so kind. No additions."

Parthini']"You know, I have not had Chinese tea, if you would be so kind. No additions."

The Emperor nodded.

"Very good."

He summoned another retainer with a small gong set by his throne. The Emperor spoke quickly towards the retainer.

"I would like refreshments for myself and the German Ambassador. Get a cup of green tea with no additions for the German ambassador. Do it quickly, please."

The retainer bowed and scurried out of the chamber, only to return several minutes later with a large pot of steaming hot tea, with two cups. One cup had golden rims with a dragon emblazoned across it, and the other cup had a simple golden handle and porcleain exterior. The Emperor took the dragon cup, while the German ambassador took the other cup. After several sips of the tea, the Emperor spoke.

"Ahh. Much better, this tea is quite refreshing.

I was informed that Germany has a proposal for China. I would very much like to hear what you have to offer."

The Emperor leaned back, awaiting a response.

"Ahh thank you!" he stated as he took the tea. Kinast took a sip before he began. Now to business!"

"Well, your majesty, Germany has witnessed China's growth, and may I say, we are duely impressed. However, China lacks one thing: a strong military. Without a strong military, the Americans, French, British, Russians, even perhaps the Italians could come and take all of China's wealth without a second thought. This cannot happen! We in Germany are, may I say, intelligent people, and we believe the Chinese posses similar qualities. Therefore, we are willing to help China learn of Germany's other quality. The Army! With a strong army, not only can you protect yourself, you can also expand yourself beyond traditional borders. You could move into Siam, or Central Europe, or even take an African Province! However, before you can do any of this, you need guns. We offer a rifle, relatively easy to manage and very reliable: the Mauser 98."

Kinast handed the Emperor a piece of paper with a drawing of a Mauser.

"One also needs artillery for destroying those wretched fortresses people build," said Kinast as he handed a second paper with drawings of artillery.

"Machine guns used for stationary, defensive positions, are quite handy for dealing with charging enemies."

Kinast handed another paper with a machine gun on it.

"However, all is useless unless you know how to use it. That is where officers come in. Prussia is world renown for its discipline, and therefore its sucess. The Imperial Army, ours of course, would be willing to send a dozen officers and 3 dozen Non-Commisioned Officers to train a few Companies in the arts of Modern War, who could then pass down the information to other."

He took one more piece of paper, one with a list, and handed it to the emperor. Then he leaned back and said,

"All of this could be provided to the Chinese Imperial Army for a good, simple price. However, first, the factories in Germany would need to know how many of each you needed in order for me to determine how much it would cost."

OOC: I have to go to bed soon so this may be my last post.

Parthini']"Ahh thank you!" he stated as he took the tea. Kinast took a sip before he began. Now to business!"

"Well, your majesty, Germany has witnessed China's growth, and may I say, we are duely impressed. However, China lacks one thing: a strong military. Without a strong military, the Americans, French, British, Russians, even perhaps the Italians could come and take all of China's wealth without a second thought. This cannot happen! We in Germany are, may I say, intelligent people, and we believe the Chinese posses similar qualities. Therefore, we are willing to help China learn of Germany's other quality. The Army! With a strong army, not only can you protect yourself, you can also expand yourself beyond traditional borders. You could move into Siam, or Central Europe, or even take an African Province! However, before you can do any of this, you need guns. We offer a rifle, relatively easy to manage and very reliable: the Mauser 98."

Kinast handed the Emperor a piece of paper with a drawing of a Mauser.

"One also needs artillery for destroying those wretched fortresses people build," said Kinast as he handed a second paper with drawings of artillery.

"Machine guns used for stationary, defensive positions, are quite handy for dealing with charging enemies."

Kinast handed another paper with a machine gun on it.

"However, all is useless unless you know how to use it. That is where officers come in. Prussia is world renown for its discipline, and therefore its sucess. The Imperial Army, ours of course, would be willing to send a dozen officers and 3 dozen Non-Commisioned Officers to train a few Companies in the arts of Modern War, who could then pass down the information to other."

He took one more piece of paper, one with a list, and handed it to the emperor. Then he leaned back and said,

"All of this could be provided to the Chinese Imperial Army for a good, simple price. However, first, the factories in Germany would need to know how many of each you needed in order for me to determine how much it would cost."

OOC: I have to go to bed soon so this may be my last post.

Emperor Guozu listened carefully to each and every word the German ambassador spoke. After the German finished his proposals, the Emperor rose a hand and was silent for several minutes. He lowered his hand when he was ready to respond after pondering the German ambassador's exuberance about the German proposals. The Emperor spoke carefully, as he put his thoughts directly into words.

"Thank you for your proposals. I am honored that the German people consider the Chinese as equal people in intellect, national pride, and progess.

I would like to address your points, starting with the firearm weapons. First, I would be grateful for German weapons, as I have heard that they are among the best in the world. Once again, I am honored that Germany has chosen to share its weapons with China. However, to fully outfit the Chinese military, it would take a quite considerable amount of weapons and supplies, perhaps more than the factories in Germany could handle.

Second, due to the issue I just outlined, I wonder if it would be possible if Germany would be willing to aid China in construction of weapon factories within China? There is always the chance of a hostile nation blockading German shipments to China. In addition, German ships would have to travel a long distance to reach China, which would present plenty of opporunities for pirates and hostile nations to interfere with the shipping.

Third, if we agree to construct weapon factories, I would like to know the price for such an endeavour. China is prepared to sell raw resources to Germany at a discount price, produce surplus weapons for German use or stockpiles, and full support of Germany in its endeavours in Europe. Imagine how much your people would be able to do with China's support and its considerable resource wealth. You would be able to out-manufacture your European rivals, and should you have the need for additional resources or allied support, China would answer the call. China never forgets its friends, and always strives to support its friends in whatever means possible.

Fourth, regarding military advisors. Would it be agreeable if China constructed a War University, and then your advisors could teach Chinese military personnel in warfare tactics. Your advisors can also demostrate military execrises and hands-on experience at the War University. I believe this would be an efficient way for your advisors to teach, at a minimum of effort.

Finally, in light of your offers, I have been pondering pursuring closer ties with your people. Perhaps we should pursue additional trade, more open exchanges of nationals, a treaty of friendship, and possibly an alliance.

Please share your thoughts on those proposals."

The Emperor granted the German ambassador a geniune smile.

To His Imperial Majesty Tian Guozu, Son of Heaven

My Lord,
As Your Majesty is doubtlessly aware, war has broken out in Europe between the Russian and Austrian Empires. Properly, this should be of little concern to China, yet as Your Majesty certainly knows, the Austrians have sought military bases in Korea, and closer relations with the Koreans generally.
We believe, therefore, that a threat from that quarter may yet materialize with regard to our great nations' mutual interests in Manchuria, and we hereby respectfully request of Your Majesty the right to fortify Russian positions in Manchuria and Port Arthur. We are quite willing to co-operate fully with the Chinese Imperial Army in any operations.
Understand, Your Majesty, that Holy Russia desires no more of the Middle Kingdom than Your Majesty's generosity has already conceded to us. We are not interested in the further acquisition of territory. Even in the (hopefully unlikely) event of open war in Korea, we should content ourselves simply with basing and investment rights, and leave the land either autonomous, or to be divided between China and Japan.
Yet, with the Grace of Providence, things will not come to such a pass.
I await Your Majesty's reply patiently.

With profound respect,
Graf Sergei Yulyevich Witte, Premier of the Empire of All the Russias

Emperor Guozu listened carefully to each and every word the German ambassador spoke. After the German finished his proposals, the Emperor rose a hand and was silent for several minutes. He lowered his hand when he was ready to respond after pondering the German ambassador's exuberance about the German proposals. The Emperor spoke carefully, as he put his thoughts directly into words.

"Thank you for your proposals. I am honored that the German people consider the Chinese as equal people in intellect, national pride, and progess.

I would like to address your points, starting with the firearm weapons. First, I would be grateful for German weapons, as I have heard that they are among the best in the world. Once again, I am honored that Germany has chosen to share its weapons with China. However, to fully outfit the Chinese military, it would take a quite considerable amount of weapons and supplies, perhaps more than the factories in Germany could handle.

Second, due to the issue I just outlined, I wonder if it would be possible if Germany would be willing to aid China in construction of weapon factories within China? There is always the chance of a hostile nation blockading German shipments to China. In addition, German ships would have to travel a long distance to reach China, which would present plenty of opporunities for pirates and hostile nations to interfere with the shipping.

Third, if we agree to construct weapon factories, I would like to know the price for such an endeavour. China is prepared to sell raw resources to Germany at a discount price, produce surplus weapons for German use or stockpiles, and full support of Germany in its endeavours in Europe. Imagine how much your people would be able to do with China's support and its considerable resource wealth. You would be able to out-manufacture your European rivals, and should you have the need for additional resources or allied support, China would answer the call. China never forgets its friends, and always strives to support its friends in whatever means possible.

Fourth, regarding military advisors. Would it be agreeable if China constructed a War University, and then your advisors could teach Chinese military personnel in warfare tactics. Your advisors can also demostrate military execrises and hands-on experience at the War University. I believe this would be an efficient way for your advisors to teach, at a minimum of effort.

Finally, in light of your offers, I have been pondering pursuring closer ties with your people. Perhaps we should pursue additional trade, more open exchanges of nationals, a treaty of friendship, and possibly an alliance.

Please share your thoughts on those proposals."

The Emperor granted the German ambassador a geniune smile.

Ambassador Kinast took a last sip of the tea, sat back, placed his hand on his moustache and replied,

"These are good offers. Germany is gracious that the Emperor would grant such a young nation of ours even the honor of discussing this with you. German Arms factories would be willing to arm China with at least 100,000 Mauser 98s within the next quarter, and several hundred thousand more later. However, artillery and ammunition is slightly low, as the war in Europe is providing quite the market. Therefore, we would agree to building 3 or 4 Ammunitition factories in China, and perhaps even an arms factory. The cost would be minimal, say, $25 Million for all?

Secondly, a War college would be a wonderful idea, as combing the art of Chinese and German war would produce an unstoppable combination. However, we must insist that one of the courses required at the college be German language. It is a policy of all of our colleges.

Thirdly, Germany would welcome closer relations with its partner China, however, we are weary of your ties with America. As you may know, war with America seems very likely and we would like to know China's stance on such things. Also, we are curious as to your relations with the Italians! An alliance with us, I must say is a tricky thing. We would however, not wish to tarnish your wishes, as Germany would be elated to have such a wise and old ally.

Lastly, I am unaware of the Emperor's knowledge of your neighbor Vietnam's situtation. Germany has interests in that area and we are curious to see if China would allow German salesmen to travel to Vietnam and deliver weapons so that they may be free of the French Imperialist yoke."

Mongolia would like to send a diplomatic party to begin negotiations for independence. We are open to China's requests, however, we have limits. We would prefer to negotiate rather than fight China.

Parthini']Ambassador Kinast took a last sip of the tea, sat back, placed his hand on his moustache and replied,

"These are good offers. Germany is gracious that the Emperor would grant such a young nation of ours even the honor of discussing this with you. German Arms factories would be willing to arm China with at least 100,000 Mauser 98s within the next quarter, and several hundred thousand more later. However, artillery and ammunition is slightly low, as the war in Europe is providing quite the market. Therefore, we would agree to building 3 or 4 Ammunitition factories in China, and perhaps even an arms factory. The cost would be minimal, say, $25 Million for all?

Secondly, a War college would be a wonderful idea, as combing the art of Chinese and German war would produce an unstoppable combination. However, we must insist that one of the courses required at the college be German language. It is a policy of all of our colleges.

Thirdly, Germany would welcome closer relations with its partner China, however, we are weary of your ties with America. As you may know, war with America seems very likely and we would like to know China's stance on such things. Also, we are curious as to your relations with the Italians! An alliance with us, I must say is a tricky thing. We would however, not wish to tarnish your wishes, as Germany would be elated to have such a wise and old ally.

Lastly, I am unaware of the Emperor's knowledge of your neighbor Vietnam's situtation. Germany has interests in that area and we are curious to see if China would allow German salesmen to travel to Vietnam and deliver weapons so that they may be free of the French Imperialist yoke."

Emperor Guozu listened patiently to the German ambassador, weighing his responses and options. When it came his turn, he spoke in a calm tone so not to sound offensive or abrasive.

"China shall agree to a 25 million dollar payment for Germany to begin construction of weapon factories within China to aid in weapons and defensive equipment production.

The German language course should pose no problem in the War College. After all, it is important to be able to communicate with friends and allies alike. I would like to make a similiar request, for German universities to offer courses in Chinese language. That way, more Germans will be able to communicate more openly with the Chinese without relying on interpreters. One major problem with interpreters is that they may alter the wording or the phrases being spoken, leading to misunderstandings and possibly worse.

China is not officially allied to the United States as the American sphere of interest lies elsewhere than the Chinese one. China has been pursuring good relations with the United States so to gain their trust and easing of tensions in hopes of averting any future hostilities. China also has a growing relationship with the Italians, as the Italians seem to be interested in investing in the Chinese economy. I do not foresee any hostilities or problems with the United States or Italy, as they seem to have the best interests of China in mind even though they are half a world away.

Your people are more than that, though. China recongizes the true potential of the German people as a proud and powerful people. Your people have been through a lot of hardships throughout history, and this provides your people with their pride and industriousness. China would be honored to call your people friends, as you have forged your people through trials of iron, fire, and blood, a feat very few nations have been capable of achieving. China honors and respects achivements and deeds far more than mere talk and diplomacy, and your people prove their honesty and honor through their actions far more frequently than, say, the United States or Italy."

The Chinese Emperor leaned back once again, awaiting another response from the German.

OOC: Duibuqi! (I speak a little Mandarine :) ) I read it last night but was too tired to make a response and I forgot!

IC:

Ambassador Kinast opened his mouth, about to pour forth words of praise of the Chinese culture. However, the short man stepped in with a note, bowing.

Kinast took the note and bowed in return. "If you would please, your majesty. This is rather important."

A look of terror, then of glee appeared on the Statesman's face. Then it was filled with a look a worry.

"Your majesty, as of the past winter, war has broken out in Germany. It was attacked by Italians, and has thus declared war. While this means great things in Europe, in China, it may not be so favorable."

"You see, your highness, Germany likes war. Thus, it engages in it fully, and other things, such as business, are pushed aside. Therefore, the proposed arms plants will not be available to China until this war is concluded. I hope you will understand. Also, any guns will be quite late in arriving. However, our officers will still arrive and train your men in tactics."

"While I thank you for your words, Germany is unable to help China at this moment. I really do hope you will understand."

The Emperor arched an eyebrow.

"War with Italy? I was led to believe that Germany was friendly and allied to the Italians."

Semi-IC:
The actual message will be far more flowery, but the Russian government is hereby informing the Chinese government that we will henceforth be sharing the lease on Manchuria and Port Arthur with the Japanese. Again, since we're actually developing the province instead of just raping it, we wouldn't expect you to object.
Also, we are formally renouncing all interests in Korea.
Finally, we would like to pursue a Trade Agreement and Non-Aggression Pact with China, for the mutual benefit and profit of our Empires. Incidnetally, we're allied with Germany in the European War.

"Yes, at one time we were allied. However, they proved to be too belligerent for even Germany's taste!" He laughed and continued, "They began to demand things of our Ottoman Allies, and became too hostile towards us. Therefore, we renounced our alliance. They entangled Austria in an alliance, and now, with their brutal actions, they have forced us to declare war on them. It is a sad thing."

Denmark formally gives a congratulation to China with it's open borders and hopes to have a steady increase in diplomatic dialouge.

The Emperor took his chin in his hand, looking like an Asian version of Socrates as he pondered what to say to the German. An idea formed in his mind and he spoke in a quiet tone of voice.

"I understand. I must admit, European politics have always confused me. Nations being friends and amicable relationships one day, then enemies the next day tearing each other's throats out. Its a small wonder you Europeans have still managed to survive this far, amid such political chaos.

China would still desire to seek relations with Germany, as well as trade and investment deals. China believes that Germany is a much more valuable and true ally than the other Europeans, as your people have been strong throught those centuries of strife and chaos. China respects nations of strong character, as nations with those qualities actually shape the world's destiny."


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OOC:

When I'm done with Germany, you can be next, Russia / Vas Porokoim. :)

Kinast laughed and then continued. "I am grateful that you still wish to seek such things with Germany. Though we are an old culture, our country is quite new, and we believe that we can learn much from a nation as old as yours. Our businessmen would also like to learn a thing or two." He grinned.

"Perhaps at this time it would be prudent to only lower tariffs between our two countries and remember the promises we made concerning the weapons. Perhaps once this mess is clear, we can talk more. Now, if you will excuse me, I must return to my post to await news of the war."

Parthini']Kinast laughed and then continued. "I am grateful that you still wish to seek such things with Germany. Though we are an old culture, our country is quite new, and we believe that we can learn much from a nation as old as yours. Our businessmen would also like to learn a thing or two." He grinned.

"Perhaps at this time it would be prudent to only lower tariffs between our two countries and remember the promises we made concerning the weapons. Perhaps once this mess is clear, we can talk more. Now, if you will excuse me, I must return to my post to await news of the war."

The Chinese Emperor nodded at the German.

"That is acceptable. Tariffs shall be lowered, and it is China's hope that Germany emerges victorious in the war. Thank you for the meeting, it has been quite informative.

I have other matters to attend to, however. It has been a pleasure meeting with you and I hope to do so again in the future."

Ambassador from Mongolia: Mongolia awaits China's plans for Mongolian Independence. I shall remind you that we are open to almost anything, for now, and would prefer diplomacy over war.

Ambassador from Mongolia: Mongolia awaits China's plans for Mongolian Independence. I shall remind you that we are open to almost anything, for now, and would prefer diplomacy over war.

OOC:

I have the Russian delegate up after the Germans depart, though. Possibly the French as well regarding Indochina.

OOC: Um...ok. :confused:

OOC: Um...ok. :confused:

OOC: in other words, your not important.

IC: The Japanese Ambassador would also like to speak with the Emperor.

OOC: in other words, your not important.

IC: The Japanese Ambassador would also like to speak with the Emperor.

If Sel Appa doesn't post by midnight (or tomorrow morning at the latest), then you're up, seeing that the Russians haven't posted yet, and the French stuff "went south".

*post*

OOC: Will we be negotiating or fighting? You can also execute our ambassador.

*post*

OOC: Will we be negotiating or fighting? You can also execute our ambassador.

The Chinese Emperor gazed upon the Mongolian ambassador. He then spoke.

"I have heard that you are here to request independence from China. Why is this so?"

OoC: Sorry. I'll let the Mongol into my spot (we're kind of distracted over here, after all), but let me when he's gone, okay?

A chill of fear went down the ambassador's spine. "Mongolia would like the ability to freely compete in the world without being a vassal. We would gladly set up a favorable trade with China and would happily ally with you. We will get our independence. How easily it is to be done is your choice, your Highness."

OOC: Hmm?

TG to the Chinese Emperor
From: Emperor Mutsihito
RE: Developing China

Japan is would gladly like to help China advance in the 20th century to become the power that she deserves to be. We are willing to help build what you need to increase your industrilization.

OOC:

My apologies, I hadn't noticed you posted a response. My "Subscription" didn't show any new posts for this thread until Council of Clan posted his latest post.

RP post coming in a bit. :)

From: Germany

In light of the recent recession, Germany has begun to open the door of foreign investment. Germany would like to begin developing China in all types of ways, and even begin construction of several new Universities.

We would also like to inquire about a possible construction of a railway from Baghdad to Beijing, to further increase our connections. It could then link with the Trans-Siberian and a circle of unity would make Asia the continent that it should be. Germany hopes that China and Germany can continue to be closer.

OOC:

My apologies, I hadn't noticed you posted a response. My "Subscription" didn't show any new posts for this thread until Council of Clan posted his latest post.

RP post coming in a bit. :)
OOC: Ok, good!

A chill of fear went down the ambassador's spine. "Mongolia would like the ability to freely compete in the world without being a vassal. We would gladly set up a favorable trade with China and would happily ally with you. We will get our independence. How easily it is to be done is your choice, your Highness."

Emperor Guozu rubbed his chin thoughtfully.

"You seek independence soley because you desire to compete in the world? I find this laughable, because of the state Mongolia is currently in. Allow us to view the facts, shall we?

First, the Mongolian economy is pathetic as you have no indigieous industries or technologies. You have no factories, banks, stable currency, efficient transportation networks, and weak education and healthcare systems.

Second, China has begun investing in Mongolia, such as constructing mines and railroads to deliver the goods to Chinese lands. China is actually the one who is going to develop Mongolia into a modernized state, as your people lack the resources, funds, and support to do so.

Third, Mongolia has very little international support for its independence. Russia, Germany, the United States, Britain, and a few other Great Powers have declared their support of Mongolia remaining under Chinese control. They have made this clear through their ambassadors to China.

In summary, I believe that Mongolia shall remain under Chinese control for the time being. Without China and its resources, Mongolia would remain a backwater state, unable to develop efficiently. In addition, the Mongolian people stand to gain much more under Chinese rule than self-independence as the Mongolian people shall enjoy the exact same high standards of living that the Chinese people are only beginning to enjoy.

However, China might be inclined to grant Mongolia independence in several decades after Mongolia has been modernized and brought up to Great Power standards of living. Only then, will Mongolia have anything of importance to compete in the international marketplace with, as you have made clear regarding Mongolian intentions. "

TG to the Chinese Emperor
From: Emperor Mutsihito
RE: Developing China

Japan is would gladly like to help China advance in the 20th century to become the power that she deserves to be. We are willing to help build what you need to increase your industrilization.

OOC:

We can discuss these stuff once I finish with the Mongolian ambassador. :)

Parthini']From: Germany

In light of the recent recession, Germany has begun to open the door of foreign investment. Germany would like to begin developing China in all types of ways, and even begin construction of several new Universities.

We would also like to inquire about a possible construction of a railway from Baghdad to Beijing, to further increase our connections. It could then link with the Trans-Siberian and a circle of unity would make Asia the continent that it should be. Germany hopes that China and Germany can continue to be closer.

Secret communication to Germany
From: China

Greetings.

Your proposals sound quite ambitious, and China shall be honored to work with the German people in its time of need. China is more than willing to aid in the construction of a railroad from China to the Trans-Siberian railroad, and the new proposed railroad to Baghdad. In addition, this should create two Silk-Railroads to replace the classical Silk Road. This will open up the massive Chinese market to German goods, allowing your economy to recover from the Great War recession more quickly than your foes.

Universities in China would be greatly appreciated, as we are quite interested in improving our considerable education efforts. We would also like to invite German professors and faculty to China, to aid in the education process. We have been looking at constructing no less than 50 universities throughout China, preferably one or two universities per major city. This alone should be sufficient to educate the tens of millions of illiterate Chinese people.

With these efforts, our growing relationship is surely assured. China shall never forget the kindness of the German people, and we always support our friends in their times of need.

Thank you and live well.
~Emperor Guozu

From: President Ahmed Hafez. (Secretary general of the Arab League)
To: His Highness Emperor Guozu (Great Emperor of China)

we have been watching your steps eagerly, wishing to follow china's steps in unifing there mother lands, (Tibet, Taiwan and Mongolia), and also becoming an economical super power that the world fears. we are asking you to exchange economic affairs, and also train some of our economists the economical chinese revolution, we also wish to continue the diplomatic exchange that lasted from the age of the great Middle eastern Civilizations and the Great Unique Ancient Civilization of the Far East.

we are also starting to build several military factories to improve our Navy, Especially our Submarines division.

Snip.
This is a Closed RP. Only E20 Nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424002&page=1&pp=15) may participate.

Emperor Guozu rubbed his chin thoughtfully.

"You seek independence soley because you desire to compete in the world? I find this laughable, because of the state Mongolia is currently in. Allow us to view the facts, shall we?

First, the Mongolian economy is pathetic as you have no indigieous industries or technologies. You have no factories, banks, stable currency, efficient transportation networks, and weak education and healthcare systems.

Second, China has begun investing in Mongolia, such as constructing mines and railroads to deliver the goods to Chinese lands. China is actually the one who is going to develop Mongolia into a modernized state, as your people lack the resources, funds, and support to do so.

Third, Mongolia has very little international support for its independence. Russia, Germany, the United States, Britain, and a few other Great Powers have declared their support of Mongolia remaining under Chinese control. They have made this clear through their ambassadors to China.

In summary, I believe that Mongolia shall remain under Chinese control for the time being. Without China and its resources, Mongolia would remain a backwater state, unable to develop efficiently. In addition, the Mongolian people stand to gain much more under Chinese rule than self-independence as the Mongolian people shall enjoy the exact same high standards of living that the Chinese people are only beginning to enjoy.

However, China might be inclined to grant Mongolia independence in several decades after Mongolia has been modernized and brought up to Great Power standards of living. Only then, will Mongolia have anything of importance to compete in the international marketplace with, as you have made clear regarding Mongolian intentions. "

"We would like to develop Mongolia on our own. We will work hard to do what we must to acheive that. We are already beginning our capital at Karakorum. Although it won't be large like most other capitals, it will do to attract foreign eyes. Many mighty empires have been made from farmland. We once controlled half the known world and can do it again. Why must China modernize us and may then grant independence?"

OOC: Sharina, please read the last post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9548348&posted=1#post9548348) in my thread, but do not act on it. The messenger will arrive after your reply to the ambassador.

"We would like to develop Mongolia on our own. We will work hard to do what we must to acheive that. We are already beginning our capital at Karakorum. Although it won't be large like most other capitals, it will do to attract foreign eyes. Many mighty empires have been made from farmland. We once controlled half the known world and can do it again. Why must China modernize us and may then grant independence?"

The Emperor was growing a little angry with the Mongolian ambassador as the diplomat seemed to have no common sense and giving a subtle threat of possible war.

"Shall we look at the facts once again?

First, if China were to grant Mongolia independence here and right this moment, Mongolia would take no less than fifty years to modernize. It is because you have a small population, extremely poor infrastructure, very little in way of finances, and very little education.

Second, it is true that your people took over half the known world, but that was centuries ago. There were no complicated technologies, giant webs of international politics, massive wars such as the Great War, and so forth. Back then, it was extremely simple as there was no need for intensive infrastructure, powerhouse economies, and no necessity for high level education as there is today.

Third, China is in a far better position to modernize than Mongolia. We have begun to do so, and the reason why China is able to do so is due to several factors. Firstly, China has 1/4 of the entire world's population, which means a lot of potential tax dollars and consumers for international goods and trade. Secondly, China has several unique resources that most of the world does not have, such as silk, exotic teas, and rice.

Thus, if China remains in control of Mongolia, the Mongolian people will be able to modernize much faster and efficiently than if it does so alone. Also, the Mongolian people will be well protected aganist the Russians. If China grants you independence, the Russians may seize the opporunity to annex your lands, and China does not want that.

Believe it or not, China is actually looking out for Mongolia. Should Mongolia remain in Chinese custody, no foreign power would dare to invade, annex, or cause trouble in Mongolia. Remember that."

The ambassador left to see what the messenger had to say. SECRET IC:

Messenger: "Ambassador, urgent news from the Steppes! The Khan has asked that you request for an autonomous government. Mongolia would like to work with China to be brought up to standards. You must request that we get autonomy to have some trade and governing power. No more. You should also put in that Mongolia shall wish to be a part of all improvements. Request that we must have Karakorum as the capital. Also, the Khan would like to meet with the Emperor himself should any positive news return."

Ambassador Li: "I shall do as you say. The Khan has a good plan I believe."

The messenger left and the ambassador returned to the Emperor.

"Your Highness, I have been informed of a new plan that I request autonomy for our government and the ability to trade. Our people wish to help with development and many wish to join a professional army. If you provide us with food, we shall work for you and not threaten. Perhaps we could work out something along those lines. I am also to say that Karakorum must be the capital. In addition, should some positive news be given, our Khan would like to meet with you."

The Ottoman Ambassador, request to meet with the Emporer when he can seen him.

The ambassador left to see what the messenger had to say. SECRET IC:

Messenger: "Ambassador, urgent news from the Steppes! The Khan has asked that you request for an autonomous government. Mongolia would like to work with China to be brought up to standards. You must request that we get autonomy to have some trade and governing power. No more. You should also put in that Mongolia shall wish to be a part of all improvements. Request that we must have Karakorum as the capital. Also, the Khan would like to meet with the Emperor himself should any positive news return."

Ambassador Li: "I shall do as you say. The Khan has a good plan I believe."

The messenger left and the ambassador returned to the Emperor.

"Your Highness, I have been informed of a new plan that I request autonomy for our government and the ability to trade. Our people wish to help with development and many wish to join a professional army. If you provide us with food, we shall work for you and not threaten. Perhaps we could work out something along those lines. I am also to say that Karakorum must be the capital. In addition, should some positive news be given, our Khan would like to meet with you."

Emperor Guozu arched an eyebrow.

"What is behind the abrupt change of heart?

Despite that, I am prepared to incorporate Mongolia into China in the same way the United States incorporates its 'States'."

The Ottoman Ambassador, request to meet with the Emporer when he can seen him.

OOC:

Considering I have a growing "backlog" of diplomats and delegates wanting to see the Emperor, I have decided to let all you guys RP. It will be done so under the assumption that the audiences take place on different days in the year 1908.

For example, the Japanese ambassador could be meeting with my Emperor on, say, March 10, 1908. Then the Mongolian ambassador meets with me on May 27, 1908. The Ottomans meet me on June 5, 1908. Something along those lines.

So, from this point on, all delegates / players should post their delegates arriving and start-up negoiations, as I don't want to end up with a massive back-log. :)

In other words, you can post anytime, Ottoman Khaif. Same goes for Council of Clan.

Ambassador Mehmed Talat Pasha of the Ottoman Empire enter the Emperor room, he pay his repects to the Emperor and began to speak.

"Emperor Guozu, I being greeting from the Sultan. The Ottoman Empire would like to know if China growing industies would be interest in our oil exports. We are willing to sell oil to your nation. Oil is better then coal in many ways, my Emperor. It can be very useful for your fleet, which will not need to stop in every port for coal. Just giving you nation more range for fleets to move around the world. I thank you for your time."

Ambassador Mehmed Talat Pasha of the Ottoman Empire enter the Emperor room, he pay his repects to the Emperor and began to speak.

"Emperor Guozu, I being greeting from the Sultan. The Ottoman Empire would like to know if China growing industies would be interest in our oil exports. We are willing to sell oil to your nation. Oil is better then coal in many ways, my Emperor. It can be very useful for your fleet, which will not need to stop in every port for coal. Just giving you nation more range for fleets to move around the world. I thank you for your time."

The Emperor nodded thoughtfully.

"That is an enticing offer.

I have taken note of the devastation the war has wrought upon your proud people, especially what the French and Italians has done upon you. China would like to propose a deal.

In exchange for opening Chinese markets to Ottoman oil, we would repay you through increased trade of Chinese goods to the Ottoman people, as well as support in rebuilding your empire."

Ambassador Mehmed Talat Pasha nodded his head to the Emperor offer

"The Ottoman people galdy agree to your terms for the oil, may this be the start of a new era of Sino-Ottoman relations. Once again I thank you for you time. When my nation recovers from this war, we will have more to offer your nation besides oil. On the behalf of the Ottoman people, we thank you for your time."

OOC: What kind of trade would you be interested in with Australia?

Ambassador Mehmed Talat Pasha nodded his head to the Emperor offer

"The Ottoman people galdy agree to your terms for the oil, may this be the start of a new era of Sino-Ottoman relations. Once again I thank you for you time. When my nation recovers from this war, we will have more to offer your nation besides oil. On the behalf of the Ottoman people, we thank you for your time."

The Emperor gave the Ottoman a smile.

"I am honored to be able to reach an accord with your people. China never forgets its friends, nor those who helps it in its time of need. We shall pledge to provide whatever support we can provide should the Ottomans find themselves in another Great War or major incident, as by then, China will be far better equipped to lend a helping hand in international affairs.

Now go in peace and live in prosperity."

OOC: What kind of trade would you be interested in with Australia?

OOC:

What did you have in mind?

Ambassador Mehmed Talat Pasha bow his head and left the Emperor room, the Ottoman Empire had found a new friend in the Far East.

OOC:

What did you have in mind?

OOC: I have plenty of natural resources, any kind of metal you want(Hell I have more than a fourth of the worlds nickel supply in my hands). PLenty of agricultural products and wit the industrialization plenty of finished products. Alot of weaponry can be shipped as the arms factories don't have much to do anymore. I can build you ships at cheaper cost than America and the others since I'm closer as long as its smaller than a heavy cruiser. Investment in your infrastructre exc in return for a stake in whatever i invest in.

OOC: I have plenty of natural resources, any kind of metal you want(Hell I have more than a fourth of the worlds nickel supply in my hands). PLenty of agricultural products and wit the industrialization plenty of finished products. Alot of weaponry can be shipped as the arms factories don't have much to do anymore. I can build you ships at cheaper cost than America and the others since I'm closer as long as its smaller than a heavy cruiser. Investment in your infrastructre exc in return for a stake in whatever i invest in.

OOC:

Lets work out a deal IC'ly. Have Australia send an ambassador to China to have an audience with my Emperor, then we can go from there.

I must say that this alternate universe is an excellent idea on your behalf, Sharina. It all sounds plausible that Europe would suddenly be faced with difficulty back home and have to leave China.

Personally, however, I just feel that it would have been easier to start with the contacts between Lord MacCartney and the Qianlong Emperor in the mid-1800s. I have always thought that if Qianlong acted differently, (instead of treating the British as vassals) history would not have been so unkind to China.

Emperor Guozu arched an eyebrow.

"What is behind the abrupt change of heart?

Despite that, I am prepared to incorporate Mongolia into China in the same way the United States incorporates its 'States'."

"Our leader, Khan Kajesi Dofu has realized that (proverb similar to "If you can't beat'em, join'em). I believe it would be preferable for him to meet you in person as soon as possible. Should he come to you or will you come to Mongolia? I suggest you come. It would be a good move to show your people your thought and you will be able to better understand their problems. Hmmm?

From: Tarkhan Pasha, President of Albania
To: The Head of State of the Chinese Government

The Republic of Albania thanks you for your concern. The Great America has ceaselessly ignored us. We however wonder, China although huge and a Great Power, is far away in Asia (I believe you are aware of the Chinese saying, "Heaven is high and the Emperor is far away"). In what ways can your Nation assist our development (and what do you want in exchange)?

From: Tarkhan Pasha, President of Albania
To: The Head of State of the Chinese Government

The Republic of Albania thanks you for your concern. The Great America has ceaselessly ignored us. We however wonder, China although huge and a Great Power, is far away in Asia (I believe you are aware of the Chinese saying, "Heaven is high and the Emperor is far away"). In what ways can your Nation assist our development (and what do you want in exchange)?

Comminque to Albania
From: China

Greetings.

We have taken note of how the USA appears to be quite isolationist, and continually declines to help those in need. China has experienced this first-hand, as we made some requests of the USA in regards to industrialization and such, and the only assistance they provided was trade, some railroad equipment, and a few rifles.

China is more than willing to help those in need, such as your proud people, as we believe in forging new friendships, apparently a commodity that the Americans do not understand or truly appreciate.

Please inform us of what goals you are aiming for, any particular industrialization projects, economic aid, or the like. Upon acquiring the necessary information, I shall ensure that China shall attempt to help you the best we can.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

To: The Greater Chinese Government
From: The Republic of Albania

We greatly appreciate China's offer of help, unlike the current weak-willed American government. There is however the question of what China can do until the Trans-Eurasian rail-road is connected to Albania by Germany. Until that railway is complete nothing could be economicaly imported or exported to China, and it is even in doubt that trade would be economical after the rail-way is finished. What Albania is most in need of at present is capital, there are many projects under way to modernize our country (OOC: I suggest you look at our Five Year Plan if you havent already)IC: If China could spare a little capital it would be of great effect.

P.S. Does China produce poison gas?

To: The Chinese Government
From: The Italian Motor Company (IMC), in conjunction with the Italian government

Greetings, honorable nation. We present you with an interesting offer. Our automobile industry is in need of more capital and more trading partners to help expand its business. In exchange for Chinese capital to be invested in our automobile business, Italy will help China to link its nation by building roads. Along with linking China, this move will link our two nations. We hope this link could be strengthened in the future.

To: The Greater Chinese Government
From: The Republic of Albania

We greatly appreciate China's offer of help, unlike the current weak-willed American government. There is however the question of what China can do until the Trans-Eurasian rail-road is connected to Albania by Germany. Until that railway is complete nothing could be economicaly imported or exported to China, and it is even in doubt that trade would be economical after the rail-way is finished. What Albania is most in need of at present is capital, there are many projects under way to modernize our country (OOC: I suggest you look at our Five Year Plan if you havent already)IC: If China could spare a little capital it would be of great effect.

P.S. Does China produce poison gas?

Comminque to the Republic of Albania
From: Greater China

Greetings, friend.

We have been devoting considerable resources into construction of the railroad that will connect China to Russia and a possible second rail line running through south Asia between western China and Tehran. We expect this project to be completed within several years at the latest.

In the meantime, we could rely on merchant shipping if need be. China has constructed its very first few merchant ships with British and Italian aid. We have completed construction of several shipyards, whichs should allow us to manufacture even more merchant and cargo ships.

China is willing to provide investment in the Albanian economy, in the sum of approximately $25 million dollars. This can and will increase as China's economy improves, and China gains much more tax revenues.

It is our hope that we can co-exist peacefully, and not face the horrors of the Great War again.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

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OOC:

China doesn't have posion gas tech yet, but probably will by 1925 - 1930.

To: The Chinese Government
From: The Italian Motor Company (IMC), in conjunction with the Italian government

Greetings, honorable nation. We present you with an interesting offer. Our automobile industry is in need of more capital and more trading partners to help expand its business. In exchange for Chinese capital to be invested in our automobile business, Italy will help China to link its nation by building roads. Along with linking China, this move will link our two nations. We hope this link could be strengthened in the future.

Comminque to Italy
From: Greater China

Greetings, friend.

China is interested in the automobile and constructing infrastructure for the automobile. This technology will enable China to grow, as farmers and peasants from far flung villages will be able to have easy access to major Chinese urban centers for the very first time. This should allow the Chinese economy to grow by leaps and bounds, as nearly all of the Chinese people will be able to travel further than possible, and become able to go into cities to purchase consumer goods.

We are prepared to invest somewhere between $10 - 20 million annually into Italy's automobile sector. This amount can and will increase as China's economy improves along with more GDP production via better taxation, trade profits, and other incomes. In exchange, we would like to request two things of Italy.

First, we would like to invest in this new engine you acquired from Korea, as it would be a valuable tool to aid China's automobile market.

Second, China would like to take you up on your offer on aid and 'training' in constructing road and highway networks throughout Greater China.

We truly appreciate your offer, and we never forget our friends. It is our hope that we can co-exist peacefully, and not face the horrors of the Great War again.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

The Mongolian leader Khan Kajesi Dofu arrived in the Emperor's palace. He said: "Greetings Emperor, I wish to formally offer Mongolian help in the armed forces and development of our nation. My only requests are that you pay us equally as you do Chinese and that we are an special part of the military. "

To: Greater China (OOC: Didn't know you took to calling yourself "Greater" China now)
From: The Kingdom of Italy and Libya

Italy and the Italian Motor Company accept this deal. Italy, as will be Korea, we are sure, welcome Chinese investment in the Joseon engine, as it truly is a remarkable technology. We feel that Chinese investment will allow us to solve problems with the apex seals, and to find a way to make aluminum and steel expand at the same rate. (OOC: I think one or both will come about in the 50s or so, especially if we get WWII in the 30s.)

We look forward to working with Greater China in the future, and we hope current and future cooperation can bring peace and prosperity to our two nations. We believe the future is bright.

Telegram to the Chinese Emperor

Your Highness,

After much review and debate over the subject the government of France has decided to come to an agreement over the issue of Indochina. It is quite obvious that the Vietnamese people do not wish to be ruled by a Chinese Emperor. Therefore, it has been decided that we can offer you Laos and Cambodia at a reasonable price ((OOC: Any suggestions for the price? I'm not so sure about this)) and a trade agreement. Vietnam, however, will remain under French rule and will eentually be give independnet rule. We hope that this agreement will be acceptable to you and your government.
We would also like to offer you trade and investment in your country, as well as French military advisors to help train your troops and naval personell.

The following is encoded and is a secret message to the Emperor

We are also willing to offer you Cuirassés at decent prices and we are also willing to sell you manufacturing rights so you may begin manufacturing your own at some point in the future. We also realize that you are eager to begin producing a navy. We are willing to build you several ships of your own design on contract if you wish or perhaps build you a shipyard in your own nation as the Italians and British have done.

I believe that this will go a long way towards healing the gulf that has arisen betweeen our two great nations. You are well on your way to becoming the dominant power in Asia and for that I salute you.

Your Humble Servant,

Jules Cambon, French Diplomat to Greater China

Telegram to the Chinese Emperor

Your Highness,

After much review and debate over the subject the government of France has decided to come to an agreement over the issue of Indochina. It is quite obvious that the Vietnamese people do not wish to be ruled by a Chinese Emperor. Therefore, it has been decided that we can offer you Laos and Cambodia at a reasonable price ((OOC: Any suggestions for the price? I'm not so sure about this)) and a trade agreement. Vietnam, however, will remain under French rule and will eentually be give independnet rule. We hope that this agreement will be acceptable to you and your government.
We would also like to offer you trade and investment in your country, as well as French military advisors to help train your troops and naval personell.

The following is encoded and is a secret message to the Emperor

We are also willing to offer you Cuirassés at decent prices and we are also willing to sell you manufacturing rights so you may begin manufacturing your own at some point in the future. We also realize that you are eager to begin producing a navy. We are willing to build you several ships of your own design on contract if you wish or perhaps build you a shipyard in your own nation as the Italians and British have done.

I believe that this will go a long way towards healing the gulf that has arisen betweeen our two great nations. You are well on your way to becoming the dominant power in Asia and for that I salute you.

Your Humble Servant,

Jules Cambon, French Diplomat to Greater China

Comminuque to Jules Cambon and the Republic of France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

I am honored that the French have chosen to reconsider their earlier decisions regarding Asia that had created, as you put it, "a gulf between our two great nations". 12 years is a long time in modern day politics. I shall address each of your points, as to make the resolution as clear and concise as possible.

First, China shall accept France's offer of selling Cambodia and Laos. We are prepared to pay approximately $500 million total for these two colonies. Not only that, but we are fully willing to provide France with considerable discounts of 70% - 80% on goods exported from these two nations.

Second, as much as we would like to have Vietnam, China shall accept your proposal regarding Vietnam. China agrees to the terms that France keeps Vietnam and work with the Vietnamese people towards independence.

Third, your offers of French investment, training, and the like is much appreciated. As you Westerners say, "Better late than never". This, in conjunction with the proposed trade should go a long way towards mending the fences between our two cultures and people. Once the Chinese people experience French assistance, they should warm up to French nationals and the French people as a whole.

I would like to propose an exchange of students and nationals, so that our two people will be able to learn from each other. Perhaps if we are more aware of each other's cultural and traditional tendencies, further misunderstandings and "gulfs" between our people will be reduced.

May this herald a new era of healing and mending between our people.

Thank you, and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

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Top secret encrypted addendum:

Your offer of naval and military equipment and training is much appreciated. We are currently looking at expanding our shipbuilding sector and the heavy equipment sector. China needs to stand strong, as we share an extremely long border with Russia., and we do not know whether the new Russia will be repective or hostile towards China. We must be prepared for all eventualities.

Telegram to the Chinese Emeperor

Yes, twelve years is a rather long time...Although we have had an administration change.

Very well then! It is agreed. $500 Million is a reasonable price and we accept. We also accept your offer of exchanging students, nationals, and trade. We look forward to a long and fruitful relationship. We will withdraw our garrisons fro Laos and Cambodia immediatly.

Yours,

Jules Cambon

Encoded
Excellent. What kind of assistance would be preferable? Gound forces training? Naval? Even air? NAd perhaps our forces could conduct exercises together along the vorder or in Laos and Cambodia?

Telegram to the Chinese Emeperor

Yes, twelve years is a rather long time...Although we have had an administration change.

Very well then! It is agreed. $500 Million is a reasonable price and we accept. We also accept your offer of exchanging students, nationals, and trade. We look forward to a long and fruitful relationship. We will withdraw our garrisons fro Laos and Cambodia immediatly.

Yours,

Jules Cambon

Encoded
Excellent. What kind of assistance would be preferable? Gound forces training? Naval? Even air? NAd perhaps our forces could conduct exercises together along the vorder or in Laos and Cambodia?

Secret comminque to the Republic of France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are looking into training our Navy, as we have had very little experience in naval warfare. Not only that, but we need to protect major urban coastal centers like Shanghai and Tienstin aganist any possible Russian or hostile attack.

Next on the agenda is aircraft, as China is surrounded by rugged terrain, and any reconissiance or support of these terrain will go a long way towards Chinese defense should the Russians go hostile. We are also looking into ground warfare, some options include armored vehicles, infantry training, or heavy equipment like minelayers or artillery.

Please inform us what France is willing to provide, plans or proposals to implement them, and whether it will be possible to do so.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Secret comminque to the Republic of France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are looking into training our Navy, as we have had very little experience in naval warfare. Not only that, but we need to protect major urban coastal centers like Shanghai and Tienstin aganist any possible Russian or hostile attack.

Next on the agenda is aircraft, as China is surrounded by rugged terrain, and any reconissiance or support of these terrain will go a long way towards Chinese defense should the Russians go hostile. We are also looking into ground warfare, some options include armored vehicles, infantry training, or heavy equipment like minelayers or artillery.

Please inform us what France is willing to provide, plans or proposals to implement them, and whether it will be possible to do so.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Encoded Telegram

France can provide naval personell to train your men. We have many naval experts and several high-ranking staff who are veterans of the naval engagements of the Great War. They can be sent anywhere you need them.

As for airplanes, we can provide you with the Breguet 14. It is a two-seater scouting craft and would work well in China.

Jules Cambon

Encoded Telegram

France can provide naval personell to train your men. We have many naval experts and several high-ranking staff who are veterans of the naval engagements of the Great War. They can be sent anywhere you need them.

As for airplanes, we can provide you with the Breguet 14. It is a two-seater scouting craft and would work well in China.

Jules Cambon

Secret Comminque to France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

Your offer is much appreciated. These projects will certainly help reduce tensions between our two peoples, as we will start learning about each other.

Your naval officers and "trainers" should be directed to Shanghai and Tienstin, as the majority of our Navy is being constructed there, along with existing old ships undertaking patrols and sea missions in the vicnity of those two cities.

We would like to construct several factories to do three duties. Construct the scout planes, produce equipment for aircraft maintainence, and manufacture aircraft spare parts. This will aid our efforts, as the planes can be built, resupplied, and repaired in China, removing the need for extreme long-range shipping. In addition, China is willing to invite several of your airplane personnel to come to China and train us in the usage of these Breguet 14 aircraft.

Would these propositions be ideal? I am sure that once these endeavours become successful, it should open up new doors of opporunity between our two people for further cooperation and major boosts in French-Chinese relations as our people grow to trust each other once again.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Secret Comminque to France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

Your offer is much appreciated. These projects will certainly help reduce tensions between our two peoples, as we will start learning about each other.

Your naval officers and "trainers" should be directed to Shanghai and Tienstin, as the majority of our Navy is being constructed there, along with existing old ships undertaking patrols and sea missions in the vicnity of those two cities.

We would like to construct several factories to do three duties. Construct the scout planes, produce equipment for aircraft maintainence, and manufacture aircraft spare parts. This will aid our efforts, as the planes can be built, resupplied, and repaired in China, removing the need for extreme long-range shipping. In addition, China is willing to invite several of your airplane personnel to come to China and train us in the usage of these Breguet 14 aircraft.

Would these propositions be ideal? I am sure that once these endeavours become successful, it should open up new doors of opporunity between our two people for further cooperation and major boosts in French-Chinese relations as our people grow to trust each other once again.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Encoded

These propositions are perfect. Out naval and aerial personell will be arriving by the next possible ship, with more shipments of raw materials to follow thereafter.

Jules Cambon

We are considering investing in your countries industries and would like a information on the current state of China's textual, porcelain, and mining sectors.

-The State Bank of Albania
The Albanian Ministry of Trade
The Albanian Ministry of Finance

We are considering investing in your countries industries and would like a information on the current state of China's textual, porcelain, and mining sectors.

-The State Bank of Albania
The Albanian Ministry of Trade
The Albanian Ministry of Finance

Comminque to the State Bank of Albania
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We thank you for expressing an interest in the Chinese economy. We are honored to be offered such an consideration.

As it currently stands, China's textile industry is prepared to explode, as we are constructing multiple textile factories. This should allow China to produce far more quantities of silk than it has been possible to do so before, thus, enabling China to meet international demand for its famed silk more effectively.

Our porcelain sector is still developing. Our porcelain craftsmen are only beginning to learn how to mass produce porcelain as China is in the process of establishing porcelain factories. Perhaps with a little more capital, we would be able to fully develop the porcelain sector, as we have just paid France $500 million for their colonies at Cambodia and Laos.

Our mining sector is exploding, as we are discovering considerable quantities of multiple resources in the mountains of Mongolia and the Himalayas. We have discovered iron, coal, tungsten, silver, gold, gemstones, copper, zinc, bauxite, among other metals. This would be the perfect tool to fuel China's booming economy and industrialization process.

Please inform us of what you would be interested in, and if so, how or what would you be willing to invest.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Message from the State Bank of Albania

The State Bank of Albania will invest five million Franks in the Chinese textile industry, five million Franks in the Chinese porcelain, and five million Franks in the Chinese mining sector.

Colombia has noticed your need for effective Artillery, and we need aircraft.

Therefore, a proposition. Colombia will build a factory in China which will be able to produce anywhere from 40mm guns to 152.4mm artillery. Further expansions in the future could produce large caliber naval guns, should your forces require them.

In return, we ask that China build an aircraft manufactoring facility in Colombia; You certainly have more experience than us in this matter. It is hoped that eventually, Colombia will be able to design an aircraft with its knowledge gained, perfected for use in South America.

Colombia has noticed your need for effective Artillery, and we need aircraft.

Therefore, a proposition. Colombia will build a factory in China which will be able to produce anywhere from 40mm guns to 152.4mm artillery. Further expansions in the future could produce large caliber naval guns, should your forces require them.

In return, we ask that China build an aircraft manufactoring facility in Colombia; You certainly have more experience than us in this matter. It is hoped that eventually, Colombia will be able to design an aircraft with its knowledge gained, perfected for use in South America.

Comminque to Colombia
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored by the Colombian interest in such a deal. Your proposal seems quite acceptable, as it shall benefit both of us, strengthening our weaknesses. We shall commence this endeavour as promptly as possible.

It is my hope that this will allow the Chinese and Colombian people to grow closer, as our people learn to work and trust with each other.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

To Emperor Guozu
From: Japanese Crown Prince Hirihito
RE: Our Treaty


The Japanese Government no longer sees fit to remain in the Alliance with China as our nations have grown far apart. Furthermore we feel China never planned on honoring the agreement that China Would stick to being a land power and Japan a sea power. China has also insulted Japan by going after whatever Japan has shown interest in, The Imperial Japanese government can no longer tolerate these insults and formally withdraws in all treaties with or that involve China.

To Emperor Guozu
From: Japanese Crown Prince Hirihito
RE: Our Treaty


The Japanese Government no longer sees fit to remain in the Alliance with China as our nations have grown far apart. Furthermore we feel China never planned on honoring the agreement that China Would stick to being a land power and Japan a sea power.

OOC:

China has stayed on mainland Asia. Remember, my talk about getting Dutch East Indies was all OOC, and Japan doesn't know about that IC'ly. For all IC intents and purposes, China has been honoring the agreement of being a land power.

OOC: Did I say the Dutch East Indies?


This has to do with Washington Naval Treaty as well.

OOC: Did I say the Dutch East Indies?


This has to do with Washington Naval Treaty as well.

OOC:

Oh ok, then. I assumed you were withdrawing from the alliance because of my secret plans to take Dutch East Indies. If you want to withdraw, I have no qualms or issues about it. It's your nation, after all.

Besides, the only reason why I demanded equal ships to Japan in the Washington Naval treaty is because China wants ample protection of its shores, especially Shanghai, Tienstin, etc. from any attack or invasion. China isn't going on a naval joy-ride and conquer the entire Pacific- The Dutch East Indies is probably the only "oceanic" area that China is interested in currently, because of its vast resources and depriving non-Chinese allies in Europe of oil and rubber (makes them weaker and less likely to have enough resources to attack China directly).

The Republic of Haiti wishes to open up relations with China. For trade we have coffee, sugar, and bauxite. We are in need of lumber, cement, and steel. We also need doctors, soldiers, engineers, teachers, etc to train our citizens.

The French governement has contacted the Chinese and humbly asked permission for a joint Franco-Russo-German expedition to attempt to climb the heights of Mount Everest.

The Republic of Haiti wishes to open up relations with China. For trade we have coffee, sugar, and bauxite. We are in need of lumber, cement, and steel. We also need doctors, soldiers, engineers, teachers, etc to train our citizens.

Comminque to Haiti
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have chosen to open up relations with Greater China. We would be more than happy to lend assistance towards Haiti, but we are unsure exactly what to send.

We could send some cement, doctors, and perhaps engineers, as we do not have a large steel sector up and running yet like the United States does. We also aren't a major exporter of lumber, and we are currently in the process of revamping our education system so teachers are a precious resource.

If there is anything else that China will be able to help with, please contact us and we shall see if it can be done.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

The French governement has contacted the Chinese and humbly asked permission for a joint Franco-Russo-German expedition to attempt to climb the heights of Mount Everest.

Comminque to France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have chosen to seek Chinese assistance regarding Mount Everest. We would be more than happy to lend our assistance towards a Franco-Russo-German expedition to Mount Everest. We only have one request, though. China would like to send an expedition to join your expedition, if possible.

Please contact us with more information or details should they become available.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

To the Chinese Emperor

That is perfectly acceptable! What more could help improve world relations then four cultures helping each other to conquer on of nature's highest peaks?

Comminque to Haiti
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have chosen to open up relations with Greater China. We would be more than happy to lend assistance towards Haiti, but we are unsure exactly what to send.

We could send some cement, doctors, and perhaps engineers, as we do not have a large steel sector up and running yet like the United States does. We also aren't a major exporter of lumber, and we are currently in the process of revamping our education system so teachers are a precious resource.

If there is anything else that China will be able to help with, please contact us and we shall see if it can be done.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Thank you much for all your help. It seems Haiti will be built up in no time at all.

You might want to take a look at this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9710146&postcount=14).

The Pacific Red Fleet will be conducting joint naval exercises with the Chinese Imperial Navy in the international and Union waters of the Sea of Japan and the Sea of Okhotsk this Summer (1923).

The Japanese Imperial Navy and the Royal Navy of Korea will be permitted to observe from a distance outside the range of engagement.

:: Shortly before noon on September 1st a massive Earthquake with an Estimated magnitude of 8.3 has Struck Tokyo with an Epicenter in Sagami Bay and stretching for miles around. Few details have gotten out since the magnitude of the devastation has prevented any real communication from getting out of the Disaster Area word is that the palace has been damaged and the status of the emperor is unknown at this time. Japan is calling out to the international community to give any aid at all possible to this disaster. A massive firestorm erupted due to the earthquake and the wooden and paper structures incinerated untold thousands.::


OOC: ouch..........

We must suspend joint maneuvers with the Chinese Imperial Navy in order to help provide disaster relief to the people of Tokyo. We hope the Emperor understands. The maneuvers will be rescheduled as soon as mutually convenient.

Secret Commuinque to the Union
From: Greater China

Greetings.

China's growing Navy shall participate in and resume excerises with your Navy after the humanitarian assistance in Japan is completed. Would this be satisifcatory?

We need to present an united front, not just a civilian one as in the humanitarian aid, but show that we do stand united should we be attacked by any hostile powers.

Please inform us of your thoughts on this.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

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Comminque to Japan
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We have heard of your suffering in Tokyo. We would like to lend assistance, despite the strain that has been put on our relationship with your withdrawal from the mutual protection treaty.

Please inform us what you need in terms of humanitarian assistance, and we shall see what we can do to the best of our ability.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

To:Emperor Guozu
From: Sultan Mehmed VI

Dear Honorable sir,
Our two nations should sign a allaince pact between our repected states, our nations are very alike in many ways. Both of us want to impove our nations to the levels of the West. Both us want to free ourselves of the west. Please think about it.

Sign
Sultan Mehmed VI

To the Chinese Government

We in France believe it would be benifical to both our nations were we to connect Vietnam and China with a rail network, allowing for greater trade and ease of transportaion between us. We can began construction if you are willing to allow it.

To the Chinese Government

We in France believe it would be benifical to both our nations were we to connect Vietnam and China with a rail network, allowing for greater trade and ease of transportaion between us. We can began construction if you are willing to allow it.

Comminque to France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have put forth such a proposal to our people.

Your proposal has been discussed, and decided upon. We shall support such an endeavour, as it shall increase Sino-French relations, as well as trade.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

To:Emperor Guozu
From: Sultan Mehmed VI

Dear Honorable sir,
Our two nations should sign a allaince pact between our repected states, our nations are very alike in many ways. Both of us want to impove our nations to the levels of the West. Both us want to free ourselves of the west. Please think about it.

Sign
Sultan Mehmed VI

Comminque to the Ottoman Empire
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have put forth such a proposal to our people.

Your proposal has been discussed, and decided upon. We shall support such an endeavour, as it shall increase Sino-Ottoman relations, as well as show solidarity of Asian people aganist further European imperialism. We truly believe that if we are to stand together, our two peoples will be able to prosper even further, allowing us to stand on much more even ground with the European imperialists.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

Construction on Vietnam-China Railroad to Begin

Construction is set to begin on a Vietname-Chinese railway which will allow for greater transportation and trade between the Commonwealth of Vietnam and Imperial China. It is to run from Hanoi to an as-of-yet undetermined Chinese city. It will later be expanded to other cities in both China and Vietnam.

The Chinese Emperor leaned back in his luxurious chair, and silently gazed out a window at his palace in Luo Yang, the unofficial capital of the greatest Oriental empire to grace Asia in human memory. He closed his eyes, pondering the future.

"These are troubling times. A second Great War, with millions of people destined to be hurt, maimed, killed, or lose everything they have. China has not jumped into the war like a number of other nations, as I know better. China is still unprepared to wage war of the likes of both Great Wars, and we cannot hope to go on the offensive any time soon.

The Pact has been generous enough to share their technologies, engineers, support, and the like, while the LTA begged China not to go to war through the Japanese Emperor. This leaves China at a cross-roads. Shall China committ to war to show solidarity, and please the Pact for more aid and support, or shall China continue to maintain its neutrality and risk its relations with the Pact suffering?

The Chinese economy is still in development. I have ordered nearly the entire output of China to be diverted towards economic, industrial, and infrastructure development since mid-1924. China must utilize its great mineral and resource wealth in Mongolia, Manchuria, and the Himalayas. To do so effectively, we must continue to improve our economic strength by leaps and bounds. Once that is done, we will be in a far better position to enter the war if we must, or resupply the entire world after the war concludes, making us even more wealthy.

I have sent an message to the United States regarding a democratic mode of government. It has apparently allowed the United States to become somewhat stable in terms of discontent, while boosting its economy and industry by great bounds. If China were to adopt the American mode of governance, then the possibility of revolt and discontent within China will be reduced significantly, especially with the newly Chinese lands of Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam, as well as address any discontent in Mongolia.

Not only this, but it will perhaps put China on better terms with the United States, the apparent head of the LTA alliance, which should reduce the likelihood of an unjustified LTA invasion of China. Should the LTA invade, they will be in the wrong, and destroy any shred of credibility that the LTA has regarding them being a defensive alliance and 'being innocent victims of Pact aggression'. This will cause some discontent within the LTA nations as the image-shattering will cause a significant number of their citizens to question their government being no better than the Pact in terms of imperialism and aggression.

I believe that I know what I must do. Introduce a democratic system into China, as well as continuing Chinese focus on efforts to increase its economy, industry, and infrastructure. China has to remain neutral, as we are unprepared for enormous warfare.

I know China's destiny. It must be done."

Emperor Guozu opened his eyes as all these thoughts took just several minutes to contemplate. He turned his head to gaze once again through the window and he could see several white birds flying in the distance. He smiled, for it was possibly a good omen. He slowly got up and departed his observation room to attend to the duties he must do to ensure China's future.

OoC: White, of course, is the color of death.

An offer arrives from Moscow concerning the sale of twenty submarines to the Chinese Imperial Navy, in exchange for as many anti-aircraft guns as the Emperor sees fit to provide for the defense of Vladivostok against the Japanese invader.

One of the junior members of the Russian diplomatic mission also is heard inquiring of a Chinese dignitary in the foreign office just what has become of the Mutual Defense Pact concluded between Moscow and Beijing two years ago, now that Russian soil has been invaded.

ooc
Sharina, I will look at it more closely this weekend.. after I post some more war news and try to get us back on track after the Jolt debacle of the last few days. However, Singapore (modern day) may be the ideal model for what you are wanting for China.

By the way Vas, didn't Russia declare war first, giving China an out if it chooses to take it?

::The Japanese Government has begun putting out advertisements in chinese newspapers of the oppurtunity to join the Japanese Army's Foreign Corps. They will be given a chance to fight communists and be trained along side of Japanese soldiers and fight in their own seperate units.::

The French quietly contact the Chinese government and inquire about Chinese interest in RADAR.

To: Greater China
From: King Umberto II

We Italians wish to make amends with China, as our last war was mainly just a technicality. To open the door for future cooperation, we believe a new trade agreement would be a great stepping stop.

The French quietly contact the Chinese government and inquire about Chinese interest in RADAR.

Secret comminque to France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have chosen to offer the possibility of sharing RADAR with the Chinese people. China is seeking technologies that will enable a solid defense, an early warning system, and better equipment to prevent any future surprise and sneak attacks. China would hate to see itself as a victim of what occured to your proud people or the Spanish.

What would you be willing to accept in exchange for RADAR? We are open to options. Please contact us as promptly as possible.

Thank you.
~Emperor Guozu

To: Greater China
From: King Umberto II

We Italians wish to make amends with China, as our last war was mainly just a technicality. To open the door for future cooperation, we believe a new trade agreement would be a great stepping stop.

Secret comminque to Italy
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We were somewhat forced into the war as a result of the Mutual Defense Pact with Russia that was signed over two decades ago. It was never the Chinese intention to harm any of its old friends, namely the Italians. We are a people that value prosperity and stability, and not the horrors of warfare as was experienced by your people.

We are quite receptive towards mending fences, and overlooking technicalities. What type of trading deals or plans do your proud people have in mind with China? Our ears are open towards any possible deal that may bring our two people closer together despite the LTA and Pact issues. China has never been Communist, nor will we ever be, thus China's relationship to the Pact is not based on ideology, such as the bonds between Germany and Russia.

Please inform China what type of deals may be made to build a better future for our people.

Thank you.
~Emperor Guozu

Secret comminque to France
From: Greater China

Greetings.

We are honored that you have chosen to offer the possibility of sharing RADAR with the Chinese people. China is seeking technologies that will enable a solid defense, an early warning system, and better equipment to prevent any future surprise and sneak attacks. China would hate to see itself as a victim of what occured to your proud people or the Spanish.

What would you be willing to accept in exchange for RADAR? We are open to options. Please contact us as promptly as possible.

Thank you.
~Emperor Guozu


ooc
you have to be tech level 6 to acquire tech level 6 technology, otherwise, you have to have advisors from a tech level 6 nation operate it for you.

Secret message to Emperor Guozu
From: Emperor Bao Dai

I write to you in my hour of greatest need. The Socailists have taken my country from me and are holding me prisoner in my own house!
They have said that if I choose to leave that I may never come back to Viet Nam. Though I am sure that if I do try to leave the country they will kill me.

Unfortunetly my followers are few in number, so I must retreat from the field and develop a power base so I may reclaim my throne.

Please I beseech you, rescue me from their evil clutches, help me get my country back and I will lead Viet Nam to a closer union with China.
I do not know if I will be able to get another communique out, but I will tell you they have me under guard in my Summer palace outside of Lao Cai.

Faithfully,
Emperor Bao Dai

With the lack of Chinese and Japanese involvement in the League of Nations, and the current attitude of such nations being one of assumed superiority in all International Affairs, the time has come to strengthen the ties of those who refuse to join this world government that attempts to subvert the rule of National Soverignty.

Argentina proposes that, as China and Japan are currently allies and Japan and Argentina are currently allies, a three way Alliance would strengthen and bind us in our resolve to oppose this world government.

It is proposed that a summit in either a Japanese or Chinese city would be made to discuss the particulars of the alliance, at which time an Agenda will be presented and topics of interest are decided.

It is our fervent hope that the League turns out to be no more than the sum of it's parts, a band of scheming, backstabing, and hated mutual enemies; but the possibility for world rule is there in the League's charter.

I will attend personally once everything is decided and my replacement arrives in the Hague.

Please respond by standard diplomatic channels.

Dr. Ortega
-Secretary of Foriegn Affairs

Secret message to Emperor Guozu
From: Emperor Bao Dai

I write to you in my hour of greatest need. The Socailists have taken my country from me and are holding me prisoner in my own house!
They have said that if I choose to leave that I may never come back to Viet Nam. Though I am sure that if I do try to leave the country they will kill me.

Unfortunetly my followers are few in number, so I must retreat from the field and develop a power base so I may reclaim my throne.

Please I beseech you, rescue me from their evil clutches, help me get my country back and I will lead Viet Nam to a closer union with China.
I do not know if I will be able to get another communique out, but I will tell you they have me under guard in my Summer palace outside of Lao Cai.

Faithfully,
Emperor Bao Dai

An extremely simple top secret message arrives into Emperor Bao Dai's hands only comprising of one line of Chinese characters that, if translated into English or other European languages, would simply read the following...

"It shall be done."

With the lack of Chinese and Japanese involvement in the League of Nations, and the current attitude of such nations being one of assumed superiority in all International Affairs, the time has come to strengthen the ties of those who refuse to join this world government that attempts to subvert the rule of National Soverignty.

Argentina proposes that, as China and Japan are currently allies and Japan and Argentina are currently allies, a three way Alliance would strengthen and bind us in our resolve to oppose this world government.

It is proposed that a summit in either a Japanese or Chinese city would be made to discuss the particulars of the alliance, at which time an Agenda will be presented and topics of interest are decided.

It is our fervent hope that the League turns out to be no more than the sum of it's parts, a band of scheming, backstabing, and hated mutual enemies; but the possibility for world rule is there in the League's charter.

I will attend personally once everything is decided and my replacement arrives in the Hague.

Please respond by standard diplomatic channels.

Dr. Ortega
-Secretary of Foriegn Affairs

Comminque to Dr. Ortega of Argentina
From: Emperor Guozu of Greater China

Greetings.

I am honored that you consider China as a worthwhile ally, and that you are willing to put the effort in binging our two peoples closer together. Towards this end, China is willing to do its part, and how do you Westerners say this, "Meet halfway across the bridge".

I believe that the world does not have the right to dictate terms upon national sovereignty. For instance, why should a coalition of nations decide the laws and way of life for, say, a tribe in the Amazon rainforest, a village in the Congo, or a society existing in one of the thousands of Pacific islands? These people must be allowed to govern and dictate their own terms for themselves, and not adhere to someone's else's ideals without their consent.

China has learned this lesson quite well from the Boxer Rebellion of thirty years hence, along with the re-integration of Hong Kong and Macao back into their rightful places as Chinese territory away from Westerner occupation. China effectively declared independence from the Westerner powers and dominions, as we did not want Westerner rule, laws, and ideals to corrupt or overwrite China's ancient culture, traditions, and national identity.

Simply inform me on where, when, and what the conference arrangements will be, and I shall personally attend, which lends credit on how seriously I, and by extension, China, considers these issues. Once again, thank you for offering this opporunity to form stronger bonds between the Chinese, Japanese, and Argentinian people.

Go in peace and prosperity.
~Emperor Guozu

OOC: check my news thread

Appalled at the lack of worker's rights in the Chinese Empire, and at the degrading conditions to which the typical Chinese laborer is subjected by his Imperial overlords, the Council Committee for International Direct Action has authorized dispatching hundreds of Soviet kadres, mostly of Central and East Asian ethinicity, to covertly assist in the organization and expansion of the Chinese Communist Party.

The CCP is to be formed into a cell structure as revolutionary organization, rather than democratic political party.

It is hoped that one day the CCP will bring social justice to the teeming masses of East Asia . . .

ooc: pwn't.

The terrible conditions of the workers and peasants under the present Imperial Government has made it impossible for the Sovereign People, in good conscience, to maintain the ties of friendship with Beijing that united our peoples in the last war. We cannot ignore the suffering of our Chinese brothers under an oppressive system that exprorpriates their labor and returns them only degradation, and the Sovereign People cannot under any circumstances defend such a system.

Until the rights of Chinese citizens improve, therefore, the Union must unilaterally withdraw from our Mutual Defense Treaty.

With regrets,
Vice-President Kirov

The terrible conditions of the workers and peasants under the present Imperial Government has made it impossible for the Sovereign People, in good conscience, to maintain the ties of friendship with Beijing that united our peoples in the last war. We cannot ignore the suffering of our Chinese brothers under an oppressive system that exprorpriates their labor and returns them only degradation, and the Sovereign People cannot under any circumstances defend such a system.

Until the rights of Chinese citizens improve, therefore, the Union must unilaterally withdraw from our Mutual Defense Treaty.

With regrets,
Vice-President Kirov

Comminque to the Union
From: Greater China

China is saddened by the Russian withdrawal from the mutual defense treaty. However, it was absouletely necessary for China to engage in this national policy regarding labor.

However, sacrifices must be made for China to industrialize and develop its economy to remain competitive with the rest of the world. We have been a backwards nation for far too long, and we fear that if we do not have sufficient industry or economy to sustain ourselves and our planned domestic programs, then China will be relegated to the dustbin of history. We would be unable to meet the demands of the evolving modern world if we did not sacrifice our luxuries on a temporary basis so that our people would be able to catch up to the rest of the world.

China's industry and economy were pathetic in the 1920's, thus it fell to me and my people to push forward for rapid industrialization. Our people must make sacrifices so that they will be able to benefit from these efforts in the future. How do you Westerners say this? "Little risk equals low payoff, but great risk equals great payoff" or "No pain, no gain"

China has now begun efforts to build domestic programs and infrastructure, with the newfound economic and industrial power thanks to the extreme efforts of its people. The first major expansion to China's education, hospitals, and welfare are slated to begin this year, which should give the Chinese people a taste of the rewards of their difficult efforts.

I am merely correcting the short-sightedness of the imperial dynasties of the past several centuries, which have very nearly cost China her place in the world. If it was not for my victory at the turn of the century, China would have dissolved, and its people would be nothing more than savages or barbarians under the role of a dead and corrupt dynasty. Thus, there would have been no China whatsoever by this point in history if not for my intervention.

Thank you.
~Emperor Guozu

Telegram to: Emperor Guozu, Greater China.

Greetings. China and Colombia have had a relatively short history of cooperation and friendship. But that is not to say that there was ever any kind of Hostilities. It is this reason that we now come before you, asking for Greater China to accept a Mutual Defence Pact with Gran Colombia.

We understand the plight that you are in, so we are prepared to send you economic aide, and my financial minister assures me that there are many Colombian businesses willing to invest in China.

ooc: Hey guys.. is it possible for me to build factories in China, for China?

ooc: Hey guys.. is it possible for me to build factories in China, for China?

Assuming you have the points to do so, yes, it is possible to build factories from China. Philanthropist bastards....

Telegram to: Emperor Guozu, Greater China.

Greetings. China and Colombia have had a relatively short history of cooperation and friendship. But that is not to say that there was ever any kind of Hostilities. It is this reason that we now come before you, asking for Greater China to accept a Mutual Defence Pact with Gran Colombia.

We understand the plight that you are in, so we are prepared to send you economic aide, and my financial minister assures me that there are many Colombian businesses willing to invest in China.

ooc: Hey guys.. is it possible for me to build factories in China, for China?

Comminque to Gran Colombia
From: Greater China

Greetings, friend.

I am honored that your people have chosen to support the Chinese people in their hour of need. As you may be aware, we have been forced to undertake a National Effort program to allow China to expand its industry and economy so that it will be able to self-sustain itself in terms of domestic affairs. Right after the second Great War, China was in no position to maintain social progams, education programs, healthcare programs, and the such owing to the low economic and industrial output relative to its populace. Therefore, it became necessary for the Chinese people to make sacrifices in terms of luxuries and easy lifestyles for the greater good.

Despite this, China is concerned that Russia may betray China, seeing that they just withdrew from the mutual defense pact. They condemned China's efforts even though the Russians undertook their own National Effort at roughly the same time as China, which they termed "Five-Year-Plan". If anything, the Russians should have been able to understand the economic woes China has to overcome, as the Russians were faced with a similiar economic and domestic issue several decades ago. However, China is planning to adopt a more conventional economic mode within the next year, as we are finally able to self-sustain our domestic policies without being forced to resort to degrading conditions for the Chinese workforce.

I am happy that there are indeed some nations, people, and cultures that can understand and appreciate the hardship that China is going through in this new decade. Your offer speaks highly of your people's desire to grow closer to China, and our relationship before the second Great War also helps. Let us put aside silly distinctions of Pact-side or LTA-side and forge a new friendship and solidarity between our people not affected by either bloc.

Thank you and go in peace.
~Emperor Guozu

To the Union and China

Japan is sadened by recent events in Asian diplomacy, and hopes that the Union and China can renew their alliance. To help open up diplomatic dialogue, Japan wishes to hold a conference at Shuri Castle on the island of Okinawa, Japan. We hope the island's warm climate and rich culture will do much to mend broken fences.

OOC: Actually, the reason why I picked Shuri Castle was because I've been there, and I used to live on that island....

To His Majesty, Emperor of Greater China

The people of France sympathize with the people of China. Despite the fact that that the Republic, as a member of the Pact, is no longer obligated by treaty we will do our utmost to help China modernize. We are currently still recovering from teh war that left our nation in tatters. However, within the next few years we will be able to invest money and time in China to help facilitate a better education system. We can send volounteers to China to help establish school systems and help educate your people. In addition, we can also send military advisors to help keep your troops up to modern standards.

The Republic will always stand by one of it's greatest friends in the East.

In Friendship,

Prime Minister Leon Blum

To the Union and China

Japan is sadened by recent events in Asian diplomacy, and hopes that the Union and China can renew their alliance. To help open up diplomatic dialogue, Japan wishes to hold a conference at Shuri Castle on the island of Okinawa, Japan. We hope the island's warm climate and rich culture will do much to mend broken fences.

OOC: Actually, the reason why I picked Shuri Castle was because I've been there, and I used to live on that island....
Friedrich Ebert will represent the Union.

The conference thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10027909#post10027909

ooc: Im not sure if ya'll remember Cuba training Sri Lankan and Angolan doctors and teachers.. but this is pretty much just like it.

ic:

Colombia will accept 1 Million Chinese Citizens in 1933 for a free education in French Guyana, Panama, Venezuela, and Colombia. Several new Universities are being built to handle the load, and a call is going out to instructors world-wide to assist.

Everything will be expanded to ease the strain that this will put on Gran Colombia.. but it is expected local businesses will prosper due to a million new consumers, and specifically French Guyana and Panama are expected to grow and become developed.

ooc: If I have to shut down my entire military, so be it.

ooc: If I have to shut down my entire military, so be it.
OoC: Perfect, just as I start to develop long-range bombers . . .

ooc: lawls... I'll have to keep my eight fighters then.

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Throughout the latter half of 1933, the Chinese Communist Party concentrated mainly on recruitment and organization, founding and facilitating the foundation of hundreds of Peasants’ and Workingmens’ Mutual Aid Associations and Trade Unions, which provide for education, healthcare, and financial assistance for members in need [OoC: Equivalent to Level III social spending for over two hundred million people for 1934].

Beginning 12 January, 1934, a massive wave of strikes and protests begin in both urban centers and rural areas, led by Communist Party organizers. The CCP demands the immediate implementation of the forty-hour work week, a minimum wage, reasonable industrial safety standards, universal primary and merit-based public funding for secondary education, and more controversially, socialization of agricultural land, the abdication of the Emperor, abolition of the nobility, and the establishment of a Democratic Republic of China.

The CCP also has harsh criticism for the supposed "concessions" the Imperial government has already made. Typical of these criticism is a statement by CCP leader Professor Chen Duxiu, delivered at a Student Union rally at Beijing University:

"This new program that Beijing has adopted only decentralizes the Chinese economy to give yet more power to the tyrannical capitalists and landlords who work us like animals, and the Imperial 'education and public health' inititiatives that have been proposed to pacify the people are nothing but an insulting pittance! The only purpose behind them is to provide training for a life of wage slavery and the means for prolonging that life as long as possible – at public expense, no less! In other words, Comrades, we pay through our taxes for our own education and healthcare, while the capitalists and landlords continue to reap the benefits by expropriating our labor to enrich themselves! Is this really any way to serve the people? We Communists say: No!

"The Emperor does not care about us, Comrades! He cares only about clinging to his own power! He talks about making China wealthy and strong, so as to take our rightful place in the world, but we must ask: Why are the Chinese poor? It is because we have for thousands of years enslaved the nation to serve one man. We Communists say that this is backwards. China will be wealthy and strong when the people are allowed to work for themselves. When enlightenment, democracy, and equality have spread throughout our land, China will be wealthy and strong.

"Comrades, the Emperor doesn’t give us our rights. The Emperor is like a bear standing in a stream, and our rights are like the fish that manage to escape the bear’s claws. Our rights will never be secure so long as the Emperor maintains his power, and China will never be great so long as we are burdened with a government that treats us like slaves! We must have democracy now!"

Meanwhile, in Mongolia and Xinjiang, rumours of a convergence of socialism and nationalism among the nomads are confirmed as "Red Basmachi" bandits begin raiding isolated government outposts and Han communities.

Interesting times, indeed.

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Throughout the latter half of 1933, the Chinese Communist Party concentrated mainly on recruitment and organization, founding and facilitating the foundation of hundreds of Peasants’ and Workingmens’ Mutual Aid Associations and Trade Unions, which provide for education, healthcare, and financial assistance for members in need [OoC: Equivalent to Level III social spending for over two hundred million people for 1934].

Beginning 12 January, 1934, a massive wave of strikes and protests begin in both urban centers and rural areas, led by Communist Party organizers. The CCP demands the immediate implementation of the forty-hour work week, a minimum wage, reasonable industrial safety standards, universal primary and merit-based public funding for secondary education, and more controversially, socialization of agricultural land, the abdication of the Emperor, abolition of the nobility, and the establishment of a Democratic Republic of China.

The CCP also has harsh criticism for the supposed "concessions" the Imperial government has already made. Typical of these criticism is a statement by CCP leader Professor Chen Duxiu, delivered at a Student Union rally at Beijing University:

"This new program that Beijing has adopted only decentralizes the Chinese economy to give yet more power to the tyrannical capitalists and landlords who work us like animals, and the Imperial 'education and public health' inititiatives that have been proposed to pacify the people are nothing but an insulting pittance! The only purpose behind them is to provide training for a life of wage slavery and the means for prolonging that life as long as possible – at public expense, no less! In other words, Comrades, we pay through our taxes for our own education and healthcare, while the capitalists and landlords continue to reap the benefits by expropriating our labor to enrich themselves! Is this really any way to serve the people? We Communists say: No!

"The Emperor does not care about us, Comrades! He cares only about clinging to his own power! He talks about making China wealthy and strong, so as to take our rightful place in the world, but we must ask: Why are the Chinese poor? It is because we have for thousands of years enslaved the nation to serve one man. We Communists say that this is backwards. China will be wealthy and strong when the people are allowed to work for themselves. When enlightenment, democracy, and equality have spread throughout our land, China will be wealthy and strong.

"Comrades, the Emperor doesn’t give us our rights. The Emperor is like a bear standing in a stream, and our rights are like the fish that manage to escape the bear’s claws. Our rights will never be secure so long as the Emperor maintains his power, and China will never be great so long as we are burdened with a government that treats us like slaves! We must have democracy now!"

Meanwhile, in Mongolia and Xinjiang, rumours of a convergence of socialism and nationalism among the nomads are confirmed as "Red Basmachi" bandits begin raiding isolated government outposts and Han communities.

Interesting times, indeed.

ooc
started a new thread for this
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10039535#post10039535

Vas, please repost what you posted above there

The Chinese Emperor countered the Communist propganda with his own in a worldwide statement.

"The Communist Party demands as follows...

The CCP demands the immediate implementation of the forty-hour work week, a minimum wage, reasonable industrial safety standards, universal primary and merit-based public funding for secondary education, and more controversially, socialization of agricultural land, the abdication of the Emperor, abolition of the nobility, and the establishment of a Democratic Republic of China.

Most of these demands were going to be met starting in 1934, and only because China was able to expand its economy to sustain these necessary policies.

First, China's national effort program has ended in the year of 1933. There is no longer a need for 50-hour or longer work weeks, as China's economy has expanded to the sufficient level needed to maintain a 40-hour work week without losing productivity.

Second, a minimum wage and safety standards are already being implemented as the year 1934 begins as China shifts from its national effort mode to a normalized economy such as France, United States, the Union, and such. Working conditions will drastically improve every year from this point onwards, as China has no need for a national effort program anymore.

Third, efforts are being undertaken to provide secondary education as China's economy becomes able to sustain decent education systems. After all, educating over 500 million people is no easy task, as opposed to the Americans educating its 130 million people, or the Union educating its 200 million people. This effort will require considerable amounts of economic resources.

Fourth, China has already implemented a democratic government. The Chinese people are free to elect officials, mayors, councilmen, and all sorts of positions of leadership. Chinese villages, towns, cities, and provinces are allowed to implement their own laws according to their own needs. The only position that is not democratically elected is the position of Emperor.

Finally, the Chinese Emperor will not end thousands of years of history, heritage, and culture by abdicating. You might as well ask the Japanese Emperor or the monarchy of Great Britain to abdicate or dissolve themselves, respectively. The only time that the Chinese Emperor shall interfere with the Chinese democracy is times of war and with the veto power which the Emperor rarely uses. This is no different than the American president's power of veto, and being Commander-In-Chief of the American military. The Emperor has never pursured personal wealth nor riches, as he is only interested in making China a great nation as it once had been centuries past.

China simply could not sustain high living standards unless these tremendous efforts were taken between the years of 1927 and 1933. According to Chinese economists, China's Economic Index was 56 at the end of the year of 1926. A decent living standard that the Communists have been asking would require an Economic Index of 160 or more to implement. Therefore, China needed to triple its Economic Index to be able to afford both a decent living standard for its 500 million citizens as well as keep its defense forces funded. Thus, it became necessary for China to undertake the national effort program so that it will be able to pass the barrier of 160 economic index.

Now that China's economic index passed 160 in the year of 1933, the Chinese workers and peasants will no longer have to be subjected to harsh conditions that were required to triple China's economic index. The Chinese people will be able to enjoy higher standards of living solely because of this very effort between 1927 and 1933. Without this effort, it would have taken China until 1950 or 1960 before it could pass the 160 mark, which means several more decades of sub-par living standards if not for these 7 years of toil and effort.

The Communists need to realize that without this effort, they would have far more to be upset about. They would still be suffering low living standards well into the 1950's or 1960's. As it stands now, they, along with the entirety of the Chinese people, will be able to enjoy substantially better living standards starting in 1934 and far better off than they were back in 1926 or earlier."

OOC: Hmm will this affect whether you are going to liberate Bao Dai from captivity?

The Shanghai Times:

The Nationalist Party has proposed several massive projects for the Chinese people to undertake. These projects have been in the planning stages for nearly two years, and China is finally prepared to put these projects into action.

Several of these projects include bringing electricity to the Chinese countryside, massive expansion of China's railroad systems, construction of multiple hydroelectric dams that will reduce or end China's dependence on coal and oil for power generation, and a new canal connecting the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers to boost ship travel and water-based trading ventures.

Prime Minister Song Jiaoren had this to say at the press conference held yesterday.

"These projects will benefit China greatly, as upon the completion of these engineering and industrial marvels China will be in a far better position to realize its true potential as an economic and industrial power in the world. China will no longer be a weak nor backwards nation. We must look forward towards the future, and the future requires great effort. If we do not seize the opporunity here and now, we shall never realize our true potential in the coming future."

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The Shanghai Times:

The Nationalist Party has proposed several massive projects for the Chinese people to undertake. These projects have been in the planning stages for nearly two years, and China is finally prepared to put these projects into action.

Several of these projects include bringing electricity to the Chinese countryside, massive expansion of China's railroad systems, construction of multiple hydroelectric dams that will reduce or end China's dependence on coal and oil for power generation, and a new canal connecting the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers to boost ship travel and water-based trading ventures.

Prime Minister Song Jiaoren had this to say at the press conference held yesterday.

"These projects will benefit China greatly, as upon the completion of these engineering and industrial marvels China will be in a far better position to realize its true potential as an economic and industrial power in the world. China will no longer be a weak nor backwards nation. We must look forward towards the future, and the future requires great effort. If we do not seize the opporunity here and now, we shall never realize our true potential in the coming future."

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The Opposition Leader in Parliament, Zhou Enlai, holds a press conference in response to this news.

"Prime Minister Song has not brought these ridiculous vanity projects of his before Parliament for discussion. Why? Because he knows that the People will not approve.

"China needs basic services met, or industrial base rebuilt - we do not need to squander our wealth and effort on expansion when we cannot even educate our people, or provide for their healthcare.

"And what of national defense? We must repair what has been broken there, too.

"I personally conferred with Song at length last year, and when he spoke of 'mile-high skyscrapers' and 'tunnels under the Sea of Japan,' I naturally assumed he was speaking figuratively, of projects far in the future. Now I must question his very sanity.

"These plans will be the ruin of China if they are enacted at this time. And the Gongchangdang will most emphatically not support them!"

Pro-Communist protests and student walkouts occur in the capital and other large cities, though no economic consequences result (yet).

The protestors demand land reform, universal primary and secondary education, a basic national health plan, a plank of workers' rights including a livable miminum wage, the right to organize, paid vacation and sick leave, a forty-hour work week, and various other things amounting, in E20 terms, to universal Level III social spending - not necessarily immediately, but certainly as a priotiry with precedence over Guomindang "vanity projects."

Prime Minister Song Jiaoren responded to Zhou Enlai's criticisms.

"First of all, China needs to end its dependence on foreign oil. With the hydroelectric dam system, China can generate its own electricity on its own terms, without bowing to foreign pressures or oil embargoes. If Japan decides to blockade MEU oil shipments via sea to China, or if India and Britain decides to blockade MEU oil shipments via railroad, China's power generation will not be crippled. We will still be able to generate our own electricity, and sustain ourselves in the face of adversity. Not just that, but the sheer amount of oil and coal that we will save will instead go directly to military and non-electrical means. That means there'll be far more oil available for everyday uses and military than if China were forced to build oil and coal electrical power plants. Even if the oil embargoes do occur, China will not become paralyzed without electricity as its power will be naturally occuring and renewable. Long after the other nations run out of oil and consquently electricity, China will still enjoy the benefits of the Modern Age and electricity.

Second, the rural electrification is a must. How many millions of Chinese are without electricity? They deserve higher standards of living. Millions of Chinese are without heat, lights, decent hospitals, effective schooling, and so forth. With rural electrification, these issues can be addressed directly, by allowing the Chinese people in the countryside to enjoy the amenities of urban life. The benefits of rural electrification is immense- villages having lights at night, hospitals in villages or towns becoming able to operate high tech medical machinery and tools that run on electricity, lighting in schools, electrical heating for millions of Chinese saving them from bitter winters, and so forth. Rural electrification will benefit Chinese education and healthcare immensely.

Third, the expansion of the railroads are also a must to help China realize its economic potential. As it stands now, we have very limited railroads that are ill equipped to handle all the commerce, public transportation, economic and industrial demands, and future growth demands. If we expand our railroads and public transportation systems, then millions of Chinese will have access to urban centers. There will be massive growth in employment as cities and villages become accessible to each other, as well as the jobs created in building and maintaining the railroads and public transportation systems. Commerce and economy will boom as millions of tons worth of freight will be able to be hauled between major economic and industrial centers annually. Yet another enormous beneficial project.

Fourth, the Canal will allow for rapid transit between the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers by water-craft, let it be barges, freighter ships, sailboats, yachts, or various other vessels. The economic benefits would be similiar to the St. Lawrence Canal linking the Great Lakes to the Atlantic Ocean.

China's military is at a decent level. Five fighter corps, two bomber corps, eight Mechanized Corps, three infantry corps, thirteen garrison corps, three anti-tank corps, and nine flak corps should be sufficient to defend China until at least one of the projects is completed. You must have forgotten the restrictions Japan has put on China in terms of aircraft and naval assets in exchange for peace. China cannot build any naval vessel in excess of 1000 tons, and we cannot build four engined bombers. We cannot build coastal artillery as well due to the treaty limitations.

Our economic recovery is about to be completed this year, as the last several production centers are being fully repaired. They should be ready by year's end, returning China proper to its previous economic strength."

Prime Minister Song Jiaoren responded to Zhou Enlai's criticisms.

[I]"First of all, China needs to end its dependence on foreign oil. With the hydroelectric dam system, China can generate its own electricity on its own terms, without bowing to foreign pressures or oil embargoes. If Japan decides to blockade MEU oil shipments via sea to China, or if India and Britain decides to blockade MEU oil shipments via railroad, China's power generation will not be crippled. We will still be able to generate our own electricity, and sustain ourselves in the face of adversity. Not just that, but the sheer amount of oil and coal that we will save will instead go directly to military and non-electrical means. That means there'll be far more oil available for everyday uses and military than if China were forced to build oil and coal electrical power plants. Even if the oil embargoes do occur, China will not become paralyzed without electricity as its power will be naturally occuring and renewable. Long after the other nations run out of oil and consquently electricity, China will still enjoy the benefits of the Modern Age and electricity.The Communist leadership will respond that dependence on foreign oil is not a problem at the present time, and in any case is not so great as to justify the large-scale response that the Prime Minister proposes.

Second, the rural electrification is a must. How many millions of Chinese are without electricity? They deserve higher standards of living. Millions of Chinese are without heat, lights, decent hospitals, effective schooling, and so forth. With rural electrification, these issues can be addressed directly, by allowing the Chinese people in the countryside to enjoy the amenities of urban life. The benefits of rural electrification is immense- villages having lights at night, hospitals in villages or towns becoming able to operate high tech medical machinery and tools that run on electricity, lighting in schools, electrical heating for millions of Chinese saving them from bitter winters, and so forth. Rural electrification will benefit Chinese education and healthcare immensely.The Communists support rural electrification, because it serves the People.

Third, the expansion of the railroads are also a must to help China realize its economic potential. As it stands now, we have very limited railroads that are ill equipped to handle all the commerce, public transportation, economic and industrial demands, and future growth demands. If we expand our railroads and public transportation systems, then millions of Chinese will have access to urban centers. There will be massive growth in employment as cities and villages become accessible to each other, as well as the jobs created in building and maintaining the railroads and public transportation systems. Commerce and economy will boom as millions of tons worth of freight will be able to be hauled between major economic and industrial centers annually. Yet another enormous beneficial project.

Fourth, the Canal will allow for rapid transit between the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers by water-craft, let it be barges, freighter ships, sailboats, yachts, or various other vessels. The economic benefits would be similiar to the St. Lawrence Canal linking the Great Lakes to the Atlantic Ocean.The Communists dismiss these projects as unnecessary at the present time, and an expense that would be better used caring for the People.

China's military is at a decent level. Five fighter corps, two bomber corps, eight Mechanized Corps, three infantry corps, thirteen garrison corps, three anti-tank corps, and nine flak corps should be sufficient to defend China until at least one of the projects is completed. You must have forgotten the restrictions Japan has put on China in terms of aircraft and naval assets in exchange for peace. China cannot build any naval vessel in excess of 1000 tons, and we cannot build four engined bombers. We cannot build coastal artillery as well due to the treaty limitations.The Communists regard the Treaty as humiliating and illegal, and openly advocate breaking it.

As with the protestors, the Communists demand land reform, universal primary and secondary education, a basic national health plan, a plank of workers' rights including a livable miminum wage, the right to organize, paid vacation and sick leave, a forty-hour work week, and various other things amounting, in E20 terms, to universal Level III social spending - not necessarily immediately, but certainly as a priority with precedence over Guomindang "vanity projects."

The Communist leadership will respond that dependence on foreign oil is not a problem at the present time, and in any case is not so great as to justify the large-scale response that the Prime Minister proposes.

Prime Minister Song Jiaoren responds to this.

"The way the Communists support China's reliance on foreign oil and possibly additional foreign things implies that the Communists do not want China to be fully independent of foreign directives, intervention, or puppet-strings."

The Communists support rural electrification, because it serves the People.

"That is good. At least the Communists agree with us on one thing."

The Communists dismiss these projects as unnecessary at the present time, and an expense that would be better used caring for the People.

"These very projects will provide us with the capital and economic boosts necessary to care for the people. After all, public transportation is caring for the people as it will allow people better access to everywhere in China. Those who cannot afford their own automobiles, or Chinese children that cannot drive, or those who desire to travel hundreds of kilometers would be able to travel. They will be able to have jobs in the urban centers. They will have better living standards. They will be able to bring back home urban benefits such as higher quality medicines, foods, clothes, and so forth. All benefical for the people. Village children will be able to attend high quality schools and enjoy substantial education in urban centers, and the ability to do so rests on public transportation.

The Canal is less of a priority than the Public Transportation Project."

The Communists regard the Treaty as humiliating and illegal, and openly advocate breaking it.

"Are the Communists so eager to plunge China into another war, and cost perhaps millions more Chinese lives?"

As with the protestors, the Communists demand land reform, universal primary and secondary education, a basic national health plan, a plank of workers' rights including a livable miminum wage, the right to organize, paid vacation and sick leave, a forty-hour work week, and various other things amounting, in E20 terms, to universal Level III social spending - not necessarily immediately, but certainly as a priority with precedence over Guomindang "vanity projects."

"According to the Economic Index, China is unable to sustain a Level III social service unless two things were to occur.

First, a boost in China's economy from rural electrification, the Public Transportation Project, and the Hydroelectric Project. This should generate enough capital through increased economy or resource savings in the long term to allow China to afford Level III services with no foreign aid.

Second, China needs to undertake one to two more years of National Effort followed by no less than three years of Peacetime Spending in an attempt to bring China's Economic Index to 170 - 180 from its current Index of 100, sufficient to sustain both a Level III Social Service (roughly 160 points) and pay maintainence for its military (roughly 14 - 15 points). We need to nearly double our current Economic Index to have any hope of efficient Social Services.

As it stands, China is barely able to sustain a Level II Social Service (106 points expense) without paying military maintainence, therefore massive effort is needed to allow China to self-sustain Level III services along with military budgets with a little extra room for further growth and expansion.

The Communists are asking for something that cannot be done without considerable effort. You do not build a house with no foundation, nor walls. The electrification, railroad project, and hydroelectric project will be the foundation and walls of China's economic growth, with the goal of building a 'house' of Level III Social Services along with affording military maintainence."

(OOC: I imagine that the Chinese people will be very confused to hear their Prime Minister talking about Economic Index, Corps of Airplanes, Points, National Efforts and Levels of Social Services. These are all out of game concepts which don't carry over to ingame. Perhaps the prime minister suffered mental breakdown? ;).)

(OOC: I imagine that the Chinese people will be very confused to hear their Prime Minister talking about Economic Index, Corps of Airplanes, Points, National Efforts and Levels of Social Services. These are all out of game concepts which don't carry over to ingame. Perhaps the prime minister suffered mental breakdown? ;).)

OOC:

Good point. I was unsure how to put it into understandable terms as the Communists were talking about "Level III Services". I guess I had a breakdown of sorts myself. ;)

By Imperial Decry of Emperor Hirohito, the Empire of Nippon hereby declares a naval blockade on all arms shipments to China.

All ships will be searched regardless of flag or port of origin, and any weapons or military supplies believed to be destined for Chinese ports of call or for the Chinese military will be seized. This will last until the Empire of Nippon is confident that China no longer poses a military threat to Japanese security or the Japanese .people as a whole Any ships attempting to run the blockade, or that ignore Japanese calls to prepare for searches will be given one warning shot. If they still to do not yield, they will be sunk or seized by force.

Gran Colombian Response
The military acts of the Japanese government have lead the Colombian Government to take the following stance. Colombia will impound any Japanese shipping in Colombia, or in Colombian waters. Japan has been deemed hostile to the people of South America, and the world. Their warmonger can only lead to a breach of peace. If Japan truely wished to prevent a Red China, they would not prevent Nationalist China from becoming stable. This act of distablizing the Chinese democracy is not only insulting, but also down right underhanded.

Colombia will close its embassy in Japan, and hopes that the Emperor will come to his senses. This will last until Gran Colombia is confident that Japan no longer poses a military threat to Chinese security or the Chinese people as a whole.

Colombian shipments of any and all sorts will continue. Land routes through India are being considered, and even a step up in Arms. Colombia would also like to note that Japan has broken its agreement with China, and now, China can indeed place Coastal Artillery emplacements where they wish, and build larger aircraft to defend themselves.

The United States voices its concern over the blockade.

Quietly, China is urged to make an agreement with the USAE to allow shipments through their country.

The Third Republic of France objects strongly and levels an economic embargo against the nation of Japan. Several editorials appear in French papers blasting Japanese imperialism.

The Chinese government issues the following statement to the world.

"China strongly condemns the latest action by Japan. The latest action by Japan clearly shows that it does not desire peace, as it is attempting expansionism and breaking treaties to do so. China calls upon the world to denounce the latest irrational action from Japan, and to defend China militarily and economically aganist such wanton aggression.

We have not built 4-engined bombers, naval combat vessels above 1000 tons, and coastal artillery. Therefore, Japan has no Casus Belli aganist China. This blockade came out of nowhere, without any justification, which, again, clearly implies Japanese wanton aggession and expansionism.

Does Japan not desire peace and prosperity? Is it so eager to go to war and inflict massive suffering all over again?

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The Chinese government issues the following statement to Colombia.

"We truly appreciate our friends of Colombia offering their support and solidarity with the Chinese people. We have desired nothing but peace and stability, but Japan does not understand that.

China should have never trusted Japan at the peace table a few years ago. They are so eager for yet another war, which does not benefit anyone at all.

Once again, thank you immensely for your voice of support and the solidarity between the Chinese and Colombian people."

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The Chinese government issues the following statement to the USA and UK.

"We are shocked and appalled at the actions of Japan. We have done nothing to instigate such an blockade, and an illegal one at that. We have been complying with Japan's terms for peace, as we are only interested in peace. China has not violated the treaty at all, as we have not been building anything in contradiction of the treaty itself.

China desires nothing but peace in East Asia and to co-exist with its neighbors peacefully. In fact, we have been making overtures into joining the Seoul Treaty with Korea and the USEA so that all three nations will be able to prosper and enjoy peace as well as support each other in times of need.

We fear that another war with Japan may cost China millions of dead, wounded, maimed, or suffering, just like what happened in the previous war.

Nationalists proposed rural electrification, which will improve the lives of millions, or even hundreds of millions of Chinese as the Chinese who are without electricity and the marvels of modern day life will finally have access to them. Within the next decade, the Nationalists are also planning to undertake one or two other similiar projects to even further improve the lives and stability of China.

Thus, Japan has no reason for any of its actions. No treaty breaking, massive domestic improvements in China, and China seeking peace and stability in Eastern Asia."

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The Chinese government issues the following statement to France.

"We thank the French people for their support. We value the solidarity with our long-time allies.

We have not broken any of the treaty stipulations that resulted from the war we both experienced several years ago, therefore, Japan has no Casus Belli for another war aganist China.

Is Japan so eager for death and destruction? Have they not learned anything from the previous war so recently? The Chinese are only interested in peacefully co-existence with its neighbors, and better the lives of its people even more every year.

Once again, China deeply thanks the French people for their support and solidarity with China in yet another crisis. May our people prosper and look towards a bright future together!"

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The Chinese government issues the following statement to the USEA and Korea.

"China is the victim of yet another irrational action from Japan. We have done nothing but honor the treaty with Japan. We must stand strong together, lest Japan choose to go after Korea or the USEA should it wreck China once again.

Towards this end, I propose cementing even stronger bonds between our peoples, increase trade between our three nations, and stand united aganist yet another episode of Japanese unwarranted aggression.

China has always sought peaceful and helpful co-existence with Korea and the USEA, its neighbors, as well as support each other in our times of need. We look towards a better and brighter future for all of our people!"

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China heeds the quiet suggestion of the USA to allow shipments to be recieved through the USEA (ooc: or is it USAE?) as well as shipping to go through without objection.

Zhou Enlai, the Minority Leader, denounces the Japanese blockade as "the natural outcome of the Nationalists' policy of appeasement" and calls for the Government to "show firm resistance to this naked imperialism!"

Mao Zedong, Zhu De, Peng Dehuai, and other "Red Generals" in the Republican Army order their units to high alert.

Argentina makes no official comment, but advises Argentine shipping to stay well away from Chinese waters.

The Chinese Nationalists begin a major propganda campaign aimed at winning over more Chinese over to the Nationalist side, and hopefully convert some Chinese communists over as well.

The core of the propganda campaign is as follows...

"The Union and the other communists in the world have abandoned the Chinese communists, by cutting off all support and ties. The communist party, the Mutual Aid Societies, are now without support from their benefecators in the Union and the Pact. On the other hand, the Nationalists have continued to focus on domestic development and the improvement of Chinese living standards.

The Nationalist Party have always provided for China, whereas the Communists are not or are now unable to. It was the Nationalists that proposed bringing electricity to the rural areas of China, improving the living standards for millions upon millions of Chinese.

In short, the Union and the Pact have proven that they do not care about Chinese communists, and that they left the Chinese communist parties and societies hanging out to dry, whereas the Chinese Nationalist Party continues to benefit China."

The Chinese Nationalists begin a major propganda campaign aimed at winning over more Chinese over to the Nationalist side, and hopefully convert some Chinese communists over as well.

The core of the propganda campaign is as follows...

"The Union and the other communists in the world have abandoned the Chinese communists, by cutting off all support and ties. The communist party, the Mutual Aid Societies, are now without support from their benefecators in the Union and the Pact. On the other hand, the Nationalists have continued to focus on domestic development and the improvement of Chinese living standards.

The Nationalist Party have always provided for China, whereas the Communists are not or are now unable to. It was the Nationalists that proposed bringing electricity to the rural areas of China, improving the living standards for millions upon millions of Chinese.

In short, the Union and the Pact have proven that they do not care about Chinese communists, and that they left the Chinese communist parties and societies hanging out to dry, whereas the Chinese Nationalist Party continues to benefit China."
This is a couple years too late. While there's no reason for Song Jiaoren to know this, the Zhonghua Gonchangdang and the All-Union Social Democratic Workers' Party have hated each other for several years already. The two parties have vastly different interpretations of Marxism (in this timeline, the SDs stayed Menshevik while the CCP moved on to Bolshevism), and sectarian disputes within Marxism are as bitter as within any religious faith - think of Mao as Martin Luther and Trotsky as Pope Leo X and you'll get the idea. Add to this the fact that both men have strong, dictatorial personalities, and you'll see why the Russo-German and Chinese Marxists haven't been getting along for awhile.

Mao (and his pet diplomat Zhou Enlai), in fact, is likely to take this as a sign of the Prime Minister "playing politics with our national security in time of war, as millions of good Chinese are dying," and will undoubtedly denounce the Prime Minister and his Party accordingly as "power-mongering opportunists who would gladly see China become a boneyard if that's the only way they could rule unchallenged."

Britain has cut off the majority of trade to Japan (see LTA thread).

The following is sent to the Chinese Government and a similar note to Japan:

We too are shocked by this sudden agression from Japan. The trade blockade is illegal in naval law and has no jurisdiction. Britain acknowledges that the Chinese people have never initiated any agression against Japan and that nothing that contavenes the treaty has been built. Perhaps Japanese inspectors should visit the Chinese nation to see for themselves that this is the case? I am sure that such visits could easily be arranged.

The Chinese government has recently placed the best interests of it's people as their highest priority and are on the verge of providing them with rural electrification and increased social services. Would the "concerned" Japanese government cause such suffering to the Chinese by initiating an unjust war for imperialistic reasons?

Britain has joined an LTA trade embargo against the Japanese people and urges all it's allies to do the same.

China secretly begins work on a prototype tank simply dubbed the "Dragon". The "Dragon" is a result of Chinese engineers working towards a Chinese tank that can combat any and all modern armored vehicles and tanks.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/1418/odbal163.jpg

http://www.planetdungeonsiege.com/mercilesscreations/MC_1.6/SW/gothic_line_T95-T28.jpg

Information and stats can be found here....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-28_Super_Heavy_Tank

China secretly begins work on a prototype tank simply dubbed the "Dragon". The "Dragon" is a result of Chinese engineers working towards a Chinese tank that can combat any and all modern armored vehicles and tanks.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/1418/odbal163.jpg

http://www.planetdungeonsiege.com/mercilesscreations/MC_1.6/SW/gothic_line_T95-T28.jpg

Information and stats can be found here....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-28_Super_Heavy_Tank


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????


dude, you need lots of good tanks, not a few gargantuan monsters that will get smashed from the air since you don't have aerial superiority or any dream of acheiving it. Stick with a good medium tank. Can the bridges and roads in your country support a 95 ton monster? I'm going to lean towards no. are your trains big enough with wide enough track to transport it too and from the battle field. Because if it goes by its own power your going to wear it out.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????


dude, you need lots of good tanks, not a few gargantuan monsters that will get smashed from the air since you don't have aerial superiority or any dream of acheiving it. Stick with a good medium tank. Can the bridges and roads in your country support a 95 ton monster? I'm going to lean towards no. are your trains big enough with wide enough track to transport it too and from the battle field. Because if it goes by its own power your going to wear it out.

it is a white elephant, and not available for China to build for 2 years. Assuming you hold out that long, you would be better off building Shermans or Archer tank destroyers by license.

OOC: been awhile since somebody has written on this thing

Official Communique from Australia to China:

"We must inform you that for the year 1945 we can only supply 19 points of economic aid. The government has made budget cuts into the navy (scrapping two battlecruisers) to save, but money must also be sent on our people as well. We hope that this 43% of our budget will help an ally in a trying time and that we can provide more aid to make up for this shortfall next year."

Also note that the government has spent a quarter-point to begin advertising campaigns in India and China concerning the new immigration policy in Australia. Pamphlets touting the strong social services (OOC: level 5) in the nation and promising large chunks of land to families (in the style of RL american settlers) begin to circulate in major cities. Any official Chinese recogniction and support of this policy would be most welcomed.

OOC: been awhile since somebody has written on this thing

Official Communique from Australia to China:

"We must inform you that for the year 1945 we can only supply 19 points of economic aid. The government has made budget cuts into the navy (scrapping two battlecruisers) to save, but money must also be sent on our people as well. We hope that this 43% of our budget will help an ally in a trying time and that we can provide more aid to make up for this shortfall next year."

Also note that the government has spent a quarter-point to begin advertising campaigns in India and China concerning the new immigration policy in Australia. Pamphlets touting the strong social services (OOC: level 5) in the nation and promising large chunks of land to families (in the style of RL american settlers) begin to circulate in major cities. Any official Chinese recogniction and support of this policy would be most welcomed.

Communique to Australia
From: Sovereign Republic of China

Greetings, friend.

We would like to offer our thanks and appreciation for the aid that you are offering us in these difficult times. We shall remember your support as we never forget our friends. We pledge to return the support you have given us someday and somehow. Perhaps one way we can repay you for your assistance is to work together on your proposed immigration policy.

Perhaps we could work out a plan for the immigration of some Chinese to your nation in hopes of further improving our understanding of each other, and this could go a long way towards solidarity between our peoples. The bad blood of the past can be cleansed into something greater. Brotherhood.

What say you, friend?

Go in peace and prosperity,
~Prime Minister Song Jiaoren

To: Song Jiaoren
From: Empire of Korea

We recognize that recently, Korean-Chinese relations had been sullied by the renunciation of China's Entry into the Seoul Conference Treaty and its effective dormancy during the war. But we in the Korean Empire have noticed the progress of the Chinese state, and given the results of the Third World War, it seems that the need is more apparent than ever to build some kind of greater unity among the varied peoples of Asia. Therefore, we seek to revive the Treaty from its slumber, and hopefully usher in an improved era of Korean-Chinese, as well as pan-Asian, relations.

Communique to Australia
From: Sovereign Republic of China

Greetings, friend.

We would like to offer our thanks and appreciation for the aid that you are offering us in these difficult times. We shall remember your support as we never forget our friends. We pledge to return the support you have given us someday and somehow. Perhaps one way we can repay you for your assistance is to work together on your proposed immigration policy.

Perhaps we could work out a plan for the immigration of some Chinese to your nation in hopes of further improving our understanding of each other, and this could go a long way towards solidarity between our peoples. The bad blood of the past can be cleansed into something greater. Brotherhood.

What say you, friend?

Go in peace and prosperity,
~Prime Minister Song Jiaoren

ooc: sorry it's taking me so long to get back to you on this. GB threw me a curve historically I am trying to rectify and my PM is supposed to die in this year historically to complicate things. I'll get back to you on this asap.

and for 1946 Australia can give 6 more points (to make up for the shortfall from our promise last year)

Shanghai Scribe, Janurary 22, 1947

New Elections Held!

The long-running Chinese Prime Minister, Song Jiaoren, has decided to step down after serving 3 terms in office since 1936. He cites health concerns as the primary reason for not running for re-election. In a surprising move, Chiang Kai Shek has declared his candidacy for the position of Prime Minister, and there is still substantial respect for Chiang Kai Shek as he led Chinese forces to victory over Japan, Mao's Communists, and the Soviet-backed Manchuria. Chiang is reportedly running on a Nationalist platform with the backing of the majority of the Kuomintang, as he is one of the founding members of the party, along with Song Jiaoren.

The opposition parties, the Liberals and the Conseratives have put forth Yuan Jian and Zheng He as their candidates, respectively. Yuan Jian believes in relaxing tensions between Japan and China, and seeks to end the ongoing labor-intensive reconstruction effort taking place in China. Zhang He believes in rejecting Japan outright for their terrible atrocities aganist China, and feels somewhat constrained by the SCT treaty.

The election is expected to focus on the competition between Chiang Kai Shek and Zhang He, as millions of Chinese still have not forgiven the Japanese for their actions during the war, and most Chinese want to complete the Reconstruction instead of abandoning it. Yuan Jian is not expected to pose a major obstacle in the race between Chiang Kai Shek and Zhang He.

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China Strikes Oil!

Chinese engineers have discovered and developed substantial oil deposits in two locations. The location northeast of Peking has already begun providing China with several hundred thousand barrels of oil. The oil deposit in Tibet has also yielded some significant oil, and an agreement is reached with Tibet that the Tibetian oil will be sold exclusively to China in return for Chinese investment in Tibetian oil and infrastructure.

The oil is expected to ease China's dependence on foreign sources of oil. There has been some speculation that there might be other hidden oil treasures lying around in China, but discoveries have not turned up any new finds yet.

Shanghai Scribe, Feburary 10, 1948

Chiang Kai-Shek Elected!

Chiang Kai Shek has been elected into office after a sudden landslide victory over his main rival, Zhang He. Several issues that Zhang He has been campaigning on was suddenly a moot point, depriving him of many votes that would have given Chiang Kai-Shek stiff competition.

One of the major themes of Zhang He's campaign is anti-Japanese sentiment. However, with the recent Japanese admittance that they have not been paying full reparations and the subsquent large sum of reparations Japan has paid, Zhang He's position has been damaged. Many Chinese are starting to realize that the new non-military Japanese government just might have some promise in mending the shattered fences between the Japanese and Chinese people. Another point in Zhang He's campaign was the SCT treaty, and in the past year, the SCT treaty has strengthened and shows great promise in boosting the Chinese economy and standing in Asia, as well as increasing overall prosperity of the majority of Asia.

Chiang Kai-Shek has pledged some goals during the Leadership Ceremony which transfers and bestows the status of Prime Minister from the previous one to the next one, with Song Jiaoren handing over power to Chaing Kai-Shek. The goals include strengthening of the democratic system of governance, improvement of the Chinese economy, and increase Chinese defensive capabilities so that China will not be wrecked as terribly as it has been in the wars in the past thirty years. With the Reconstruction predicted to only take two more years, these goals seem tangible and promising.

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China Pledges Aid to Tibet and Mongolia

With the discovery and subsquent development of oil in Tibet, China has pledged to support the Tibetian oil industry in hopes of giving more Tibetians employment.

In addition, China has also pledged to improve Tibetian and Mongolian infrastructure and boost the living standards of its people. Hospitals, railroads, sewer systems, water treatment plants, and so forth are planned for both Tibet and Mongolia. It is hoped that the Tibetians and Mongolians will be able to benefit from these projects that will allow them to enjoy the immense living benefits that contemporary Chinese, Koreans, and Indo-Chinese enjoy.

Shanghai Scribe, Janurary 29, 1949

Improvements to be Made in China's Democratic System

Chiang Kai-Shek has pushed through legislation that would allow greater flexibility in Chinese governance by dividing China into provinces that have both province-level and national-level governance. Chiang Kai-Shek and the Chinese Legislation is attempting to model the enhanced democratic reforms after the successful system in use by the United States.

China is planned to be divided into approximately thirty to forty provinces, which should allow for greater flexibility with local governance. What may work for one province might not work for all the others under a national edict or law. However, with this new province government system, each province will be able to pass laws and edicts best suited to each of their individual and unique situations and geography.

However, the Provinces will contribute to the nation as a whole through National Edicts such as a criminal code, economics, foreign relations, technology research, military matters, and so forth.

This effort is not expected to bring results immediately, as it is a lengthy and complicated process given the size and population of China. Experts estimate that it will take several years before full effect can be realized. The proposed reforms is predicted to raise Chiang Kai-Shek's approval ratings.

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China to Plan Major Projects for Mongolia and Tibet

As part of China's ongoing pledge to improve Mongolia and Tibet, several projects are proposed. For the next several years, there will be massive upgrading of both nations. One project is hoped to bring electricity for the very first time to Tibet and Mongolia, allowing their people to enjoy the benefits of modern lifestyles and employ everyday appliances such as refrigators and radios. Another project is the construction of sanitary and education systems to improve the well being of the Tibetians and Mongolians.

Construction of airports and airplanes for Mongolia and Tibet are being considered. Should the project be approved, it will enable both nations to have access to the world's market as well as provide connections to the rest of the world that are otherwise difficult if not impossible due to the harsh mountainous and desert terrain of both nations.

Talks are underway between high level Chinese officials and the Tibetians and Mongolians about possible re-integration back into China but as self-governing provinces much like the states of the United States as part of China's ongoing Democratic Reforms.

Shanghai Scribe, Feburary 17, 1950

China's Reconstruction Expected to be Complete by Year's End!

The Chinese economy is nearly back on track, thanks to the hard work of our people and their sacrifices. Our economy has already approached levels not seen since just prior to the Japanese invasion and the Communist Uprising. By year's end, our economy is expected to surpass these levels as our commerce, trade, and tourism are at unprecedented levels.

With the completion of our rebuilding which lasted a little over five years, China will finally become able to focus on various domestic affairs and defense projects. It is expected that the Rural Electrification project will be completed next year, bringing electricity to practically every corner of China, Mongolia, and Tibet. Millions of Chinese will finally be able to enjoy the amenities long denied them, such as refrigators, radios, televisions, electric lights, electric railways, modern hospitals, and so forth.

Chiang Kai Shek has promised that there will be substantial increases in Chinese education, healthcare, welfare, and social services beginning next year, and another increase is expected in 1952 as our economy stabilizes. The future looks very bright for China, after suffering for a generation under warfare, rebuilding, and betrayals.

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China Continues Talks with Mongolia and Tibet

High level talks continue between Chinese leaders and the governments of Tibet and Mongolia. It is reported that the Dalai Lama and Chiang Kai Shek are directly involved in the talks. The talks are aimed towards re-integration of Tibet and Mongolia with China, but with more freedom and self-rule than under the late Guozu Dynasty.

The talks show promise, as China has guanatreed completion of rural electrification by next year, the ongoing improvements to the Tibetian and Mongolian economies and infrastructure this year. Several other Chinese pledges include improved social services and continued enhancements to transportation networks should the two nations re-integrate back into China. However, the most important pledge made was to allow substantial self-rule similiar to how the fifity states of the United States self-rule themselves yet comprise a nation. Based off the success of the talks, Tibet and Mongolia appear to accept these improvements and pledges for the most part.

It is hoped that Mongolia and Tibet will be re-integrated into China by the end of this year or next year, providing more stability, economic boosts, and increased prosperity throughout Asia after the recent devastation of the third world war.

Would China be willing to produce 100 Dassault Mirage III's for the United Republics? We are willing to pay 4 points for one unit.

Would China be willing to produce 100 Dassault Mirage III's for the United Republics? We are willing to pay 4 points for one unit.

Secret IC:

China agrees to this, producing generic Dassault planes for Egyptian use.

China Continues Talks with Mongolia and Tibet

High level talks continue between Chinese leaders and the governments of Tibet and Mongolia. It is reported that the Dalai Lama and Chiang Kai Shek are directly involved in the talks. The talks are aimed towards re-integration of Tibet and Mongolia with China, but with more freedom and self-rule than under the late Guozu Dynasty.

The talks show promise, as China has guanatreed completion of rural electrification by next year, the ongoing improvements to the Tibetian and Mongolian economies and infrastructure this year. Several other Chinese pledges include improved social services and continued enhancements to transportation networks should the two nations re-integrate back into China. However, the most important pledge made was to allow substantial self-rule similiar to how the fifity states of the United States self-rule themselves yet comprise a nation. Based off the success of the talks, Tibet and Mongolia appear to accept these improvements and pledges for the most part.

It is hoped that Mongolia and Tibet will be re-integrated into China by the end of this year or next year, providing more stability, economic boosts, and increased prosperity throughout Asia after the recent devastation of the third world war.

Just to make sure we are being realistic, has this been run by an NPC/realism mod? It would probably happen eventually but if it is this easy to unify with countries of varied ethnic and social background, i should go ahead and annex Indonesia while i still can.

Just to make sure we are being realistic, has this been run by an NPC/realism mod? It would probably happen eventually but if it is this easy to unify with countries of varied ethnic and social background, i should go ahead and annex Indonesia while i still can.

OOC:

This has been cleared with GB prior to him leaving as "mod" and Parthini more or less approved this as well. He said Mongolia's mine as of 1951, but Tibet probably by 1952 or so.

OOC:

This has been cleared with GB prior to him leaving as "mod" and Parthini more or less approved this as well. He said Mongolia's mine as of 1951, but Tibet probably by 1952 or so.

cool--works for me, and let me know on the new foreign possessions thread when tibet gets annexed officially

The USEA company Han Taik Aerospace wishes to expand abroad, and ask the government of China for permission to set manufacturing and rsearch and development facilities in southern China.
In exchange the chinese government is offerred a similar stake in it's shares ownership the what the government of the USEA holds.

(This means you can sell Han Taik products and have imput into what they research next

The USEA company Han Taik Aerospace wishes to expand abroad, and ask the government of China for permission to set manufacturing and rsearch and development facilities in southern China.
In exchange the chinese government is offerred a similar stake in it's shares ownership the what the government of the USEA holds.

(This means you can sell Han Taik products and have imput into what they research next

China agrees to this and is even willing to supply Han Taik Aerospace with resources like aluminum, oil, steel, iron, rubber, etc. at discounted prices.

The CSC Logisitcs Division requests the purchase of 100 Dassault Mirage III fighters (a single unit) to replace the USEA's wing of aging F-84s.

The CSC Logisitcs Division requests the purchase of 100 Dassault Mirage III fighters (a single unit) to replace the USEA's wing of aging F-84s.

China agrees to this request and leaves the door open for future purchases.

Shanghai Scribe, Feburary 6, 1951

China to Begin Developing Defenses

With the Chinese economy back on track, Prime Minister Chiang Kai Shek has pushed through legislation to expand Chinese defense forces. The reason for China's troubles since the mid-1920's was due to a weak defense force, terribly mis-managed by the late Guozu Dynasty. Japan, the Union, and the Communist rebels were able to wreak considerable havoc aganist the Chinese people because China did not have sufficient forces to protect itself.

The legislation was passed nearly unianminously, as the future lies bright ahead for China now just emerging from a decade-long reconstruction effort. Chiang Kai Shek has declared that China must shore up its weak defenses to ensure that its bright future will be well protected aganist another invasion or global war should it ever occur.

His statement resounds throughout China simply as this.

"We must guard ourselves to ensure a shining future for our people!"

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Mongolia Re-Joins China!

High level talks succeed between China and Mongolia. The Mongolian people and leaders have agreed to re-join China as a democratic state something akin to the system of governance being employed by the United States and its 50 consistuent states. Mongolia will be governed by natural born Mongolian citizens with laws passed on the local level. However Mongolia is also to follow National Edicts of China in matters of economy, military, and international policy such as economy models, military bases, education systems, and such. A good comparison would be how the United States employs local and national level laws to better serve its diverse mix of people.

It is hoped that with the Mongolians re-joining China, Tibet will follow suit after witnessing the numerous benefits Mongolia is expected to experience in re-joining China.

Shanghai Scribe, January 27, 1952

Prime Minister Chiang Kai Shek Re-Elected!

Chiang Kai Shek has been re-elected as China's Prime Minister after the string of enormous successes within his four year term. China has finished its reconstruction, re-integrated Tibet and Mongolia back into Greater China, assured peace with China's neighbors, and great strides in domestic affairs. The increased civilian benefits such as better education systems, hospitals, healthcare, and security brought on by increased defensive military spending has assured millions of Chinese voters that their future is secure.

Chiang Kai Shek's agenda for his second term include more improvements to China's infrastructure, aid Mongolia and Tibet to seamlessly integrate within China while retaining their national identities, and promoting peace throughout Asia.

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Tibet Re-Joins China!

High level talks succeed between China and Tibet after the Mongolians re-joined China the previous year. Tibet is given the same promises and system of governance that has been provided to Mongolia. The Tibetian people will elect their governmental officials, pass their local village and city laws, and function as a "state" in China similiar to Texas, California, New York, or such in the United States.

The Tibetians will, however, need to follow Chinese National Edicts which is comparable to the Federal-Level of the United States. National Edicts include education systems, healthcare, military bases, economic policy or models, international policy, and such. It is hoped that the new system will allow Tibetians the freedom that they have fought so hard for while ensuring unity and stability in Asia. With Tibet re-joining China, Tibetian security and protection is well assured from those who would seek to undermine Tibet, along with retaining its own freedom of goverance and freedoms of life.

With the reunification of Mongolia and Tibet into China, the future of Asia seems destined for great prosperity and stability despite the recent troubles in the Federated Asian States.

[Top secret] communique to the Chinese government

Greetings brothers, like your esteemed country we have recently developed atomic fission weaponary, however our natural terrain and lack of convieneint offshore islands prevents them from being tested.
We therefore request that we be allowed to run a joint testing program with China for these atomic weapons.

Sincerely,

Prime Minister,
Vinh Binh Tuan

[Top secret] communique to the Chinese government

Greetings brothers, like your esteemed country we have recently developed atomic fission weaponary, however our natural terrain and lack of convieneint offshore islands prevents them from being tested.
We therefore request that we be allowed to run a joint testing program with China for these atomic weapons.

Sincerely,

Prime Minister,
Vinh Binh Tuan

Top Secret Comminque to USEA
From: Sovereign Republic of China (SRC)

Greetings.

We are agreeable to such a proposal. However, we have yet to determine a viable testing site of our own. Several possibilities include the Gobi Desert. We shall know for certain by year's end, but the Gobi Desert seems like a prime candidate.

In exchange, we would like access to the nuclear fueling technology you have been developing. Consquently, China will be able to begin research on Hydrogen Bombs next year. We suggest that the USEA focus on missile technology instead of Hydrogen Bomb research to avoid reunduant and time-consuming duplicated research. We both can share our technologies and that way, we shall catch up with the West in short order.

Inform us of your thoughts. Go in prosperity, friend.

Prime Minister Chiang Kai-Shek

Top Secret Comminque to USEA
From: Sovereign Republic of China (SRC)

Greetings.

We are agreeable to such a proposal. However, we have yet to determine a viable testing site of our own. Several possibilities include the Gobi Desert. We shall know for certain by year's end, but the Gobi Desert seems like a prime candidate.

In exchange, we would like access to the nuclear fueling technology you have been developing. Consquently, China will be able to begin research on Hydrogen Bombs next year. We suggest that the USEA focus on missile technology instead of Hydrogen Bomb research to avoid reunduant and time-consuming duplicated research. We both can share our technologies and that way, we shall catch up with the West in short order.

Inform us of your thoughts. Go in prosperity, friend.

Prime Minister Chiang Kai-Shek


[Top Secret] Communique to the Soveriegn Republic of China:

We thank you for you agreement to help us in testing our nuclear weapons and will happily share our nuclear fueling technology with or great ally (I suspect this means you will only have to pay 36 points to set up your nuclear fueling facilities as I provide the nesscesry research, but you will have to check).
As for pooling our resources, the USEA agrees to this and suggests that we send some of our nuclear physicists and engineers to cooperate with our great allies in this joint project.
As missile research is already covered by the Asian Space Program so we will begin building commercial nuclear power plants.

Sincerely,

Prime Minister
Vinh Binh Tuan

March 24 1953

The Asian Space Programme's first launch was a certified succes as the Gio Dong module contaning various Hi tech electronic sensors was launched from the Asian Space Agency's launch facility at Hat Yai in Thailand via a Korean Sejong IRBM.

The launch went off without a hitch and the module, which contained a radio transmitter and reciever and several sensors for studying conditions in near earth orbit, achived sub orbital altitudes over mianland China before and landing in the middle of the sea of Japan.

Whilst in flight communication between the module and a series of purpose built ASA tacking stations, built in member countries, was achieved.

The next launch is scheduled for April 3

Shanghai Scribe, Febuary 14, 1953

China Begins Developing Electronics

With recent advances in electricity sciences and more efficient manufacturing processes throughout China, the engineers of China have begun looking into employing electrical devices on a smaller scale to allow for even more advanced devices and technologies. The obstacles are many, as it demands new types of material, different methods of engineering, and completely new ways of thinking.

The pay-offs of such an endeavour promise to be immense, as this would allow for devices and technologies so advanced that it seems like science fiction at this moment in time. This will be a huge step forward towards finally catching up with the Westerners constant lead in technology and prosperity.

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FAS Breaks Up!

The Civil War continues in the FAS, with mounting casaulties on each side. It has been reported that several major cities have been completely ruined similiar in scale to World War II and World War III. Some Chinese citizens have voiced their concerns that the war may spill over into southwestern China as refugees and gurriellas may flee into China for refuge.

The Chinese government has declared that it shall remain neutral in the Civil War, even though the FAS is a fellow SCT member. China believes that remaining neutral is the best course of action, considering the cool relations between China and the FAS. If China were to choose one side, the war may very well spread into China itself as the other side may attack China out of spite at a time when China is ill suited to deal with warfare, having just recovered from World War III.

Shanghai Scribe, Febuary 3, 1954

China Reaches Space With SCT Aid

The SCT has been coordinating efforts to develop a space program which would enable the nations within the SCT to be able to launch missions into the heavens. China has approved the construction of two potential launching sites to further aid the space program. One in Hainan Dao and another one possibly in the Gobi Deser or even in Tibet. The space progam shows enormous promise, as it has the potential for immense benefits such as technological development and improving our understanding of our place in the universe.

Chiang Kai Shek himself is quoted as saying, "Space is truly the last frontier for mankind, for the exploration of it may very well last forever unlike the oceans on our home planet Earth which were conquered within just 100 - 200 years of Christopher Colombus."

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FAS Reforms Into Two Nations

The Civil War has ended in the former FAS. The FAS government employed weapons of mass destruction aganist its own people which has horrified millions of Chinese citizens. The chemical weapons employed hastened the end of the war.

The war ended with the secession of the United Islamic Republics (UIR) faction from the FAS proper, while the third faction, the DSRPA, were re-absorbed into the FAS. The FAS, comprising the entirety of the nation of India, renamed itself "Pakistan" while the UIR became its own nation. The UIR has recieved significant international attention, support, and aid as its people suffered during the war, especially so from the FAS regime.

The Chinese government is seeking to establish relations with the UIR, and the relations with Pakistan has cooled even more owing to their use of chemical weapons aganist their own people.

ooc: crossposted on the Australian thread, so answer where-ever

ic: Prime Minister Andrew Parsons has invited the Chinese government to a meeting in Darwin, Australia in January 1956 to discuss the military situation in the Eastern Hemisphere. The move is being played by the PM's allies as an attempt to calm the public's fears over the military build ups in Asia and if nothing else, to resolidify a relationship between two nations that seems at times as if it can be overgrown with weeds from a lack of tending to.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10893069#post10893069

China has been formally invited to Pacific Rim talks in Darwin in December 1957. To save time it is up now, so if you find you have something to say feel free to chime in.

OOC: I'm trying to come up with specifics for my military, not for any in game reason, but mostly for my own amusement. I don't think this will have any in-game effects, but that's up to GB, really. Some of these items are WWII era, but I think they would all exist at this point in the timeframe.

IC:

The Syrian Army would like permission to use the following Chinese-made vehicles and artillery in its units. Syrian companies would like to buy production rights for all vehicles marked with an asterisk (*).

Type 59 Tank
Type 63 Air Defense Gun


Chinese craftsmanship has been shown in the fine quality Chinese planes (Mirage IIICs) in service with the RSAF, and the Army wishes to benefit as well.

China will consider Syria's requests and then inform Syria on how many tanks and flak guns can be sold to Syria.

The USEAAF contacts China Aviation about the possibilty of the purchase of a full unit of CA Kirin Lamsong Tankers. These would be used to fuel the current fleet of Hong H-5 bombers.

China sends a comminque to Syria.

"How many flak guns and tanks do you need?"

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China returns a response to the USEA.

"Certainly. The sale is thereby approved, as we have been close allies for a while."

OOC: I'm trying to come up with specifics for my military, not for any in game reason, but mostly for my own amusement. I don't think this will have any in-game effects, but that's up to GB, really. Some of these items are WWII era, but I think they would all exist at this point in the timeframe.

IC:

The Syrian Army would like permission to use the following Chinese-made vehicles and artillery in its units. Syrian companies would like to buy production rights for all vehicles marked with an asterisk (*).

Type 59 Tank
Type 63 Air Defense Gun


Chinese craftsmanship has been shown in the fine quality Chinese planes (Mirage IIICs) in service with the RSAF, and the Army wishes to benefit as well.


the T59 is very reasonable, its just an improved T55 after all

OOC: I'm not sure exactly how many this would be, but at some point I'm going to figure out how many of what are where, so for now I'll just go by divisions worth of tanks)

We would like to make the Type 59 our primary MBT. We would require enough for 1 mechanized infantry division, 1 mechanized flak division, 1 armored division, and 1 mechanized artillery division. The Type 63 would be used to outfit three mountain brigades and two garrison units.

The Army does not see any signifigant expansion in the near future and would consider these numbers sufficient.

OOC: I'm not sure exactly how many this would be, but at some point I'm going to figure out how many of what are where, so for now I'll just go by divisions worth of tanks)

We would like to make the Type 59 our primary MBT. We would require enough for 1 mechanized infantry division, 1 mechanized flak division, 1 armored division, and 1 mechanized artillery division. The Type 63 would be used to outfit three mountain brigades and two garrison units.

The Army does not see any signifigant expansion in the near future and would consider these numbers sufficient.

China figures that the amounts required to outfit these divisions would comprise of the following....

2 divisions worth of T59 tanks (1 to form the Armored Division and 1 to cover everything else)

2 divisions worth of Type 63 Flak guns (1 to cover 2 garrison units and 1 to cover all the 3 brigades)

The sale is thereby approved and ready to produce upon payment from Syria.

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OOC:

I figure the costs of 2 tank divisions and 2 flak divisions should pretty much cover it all. Each tank division costs 5 points each and each flak (non-mechanized) costs 3 points while the mechanized flak costs 5 each.

(cross posted in your thread as well)

The money will be budgeted in the 1958 budget, and sent immediately (I'll put my budget up shortly)

March 25, 1958 (TOP SECRET)

The Chinese Economic Committee (CEC) has analyzed recent trends in China's explosive growth and economic expansion, and the recent advances of technologies. The analysts have come to a startling and chilling conclusion, and they discreetly hand the report to top level Chinese officials and Prime Minister Chiang Kai Shek serving his third term as Prime Minister.

The report states...

"The trend of Chinese growth has literally exploded in the past several years, from a war ravaged nation with minimal production and considerable nuclear and biological warfare damage to a nation whose economy now surpasses the United States, the world's supposed 'Superpower'.

The trend has put an enormous strain on China's natural resources, pushing it to the very limits. Currently, it is estimated that by the year 1960, China will consume nearly 10 million barrels of oil daily or approximately 3.5 billion barrels annually, and by the end of the century, perhaps even as much as 40 to 50 million barrels of oil daily or a staggering 15 - 18 billion barrels of oil annually.

Without adequate research and effort into alternative energy sources and production, China will consume the entire world's supply of oil and gasoline by 2000, give or take a decade. If nothing is done, the world will be plunged into a Dark Age as after the year 2000, there will very likely be no more oil available for world consumption.

Several courses of action to allievate and address this problem is as follows.

1. Research and develop alternative energy sources or production.

A. Ethanol Fuel.
B. Improve hydroelectric power.
C. Harness power from the wind.
D. Possibility of developing solar power.
E. Research possible applications of methane or biological fuels.
F. Develop more advanced nuclear energy applications.
G. Pursure any application for alternative energy sources.

2. Reduce domestic oil consumption by the following methods.

A. Replace oil and gasoline powered railroad engines with steam engines or electrified locomotives.
B. Massively expand public transportation systems.
C. Establish programs to encourage car-pooling.
D. Expand subway and electric trolley systems throughout every city and village within China.
E. Research and develop more fuel efficient automobiles.
F. Undertake projects and research into electric automobiles.

3. Military Oil Consumption.

A. Any future Chinese Navy must be required to employ nuclear power technology so that the Navy will not as be reliant on oil as conventional Navies are.

B. Alternative fuel engines are to be researched and developed for military vehicles and aircraft. Some possibilities include ethanol powered engines or some kind of bio-mass powered engines.

4. Project Directives:

A. These projects override any corporate actions that may be taken to sabotage such efforts. Oil companies and 'Barons' may attempt to subvert or undermine efforts to shift China off its potentially extreme oil consumption. This must not be allowed to occur, as it will mean the end of civilization as there will be no more oil to sustain it if action is not taken.

B. These projects must be continued, regardless of the cost. Without these projects, China and possibly the world will cease to function as a modern world.

End Report."

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Chiang Kai Shek trembled slightly as he read the report, as it contained some very damning projections that simply cannot be ignored.

The USEAAF makes another order to China Aviation, this time for 200 (2 untis) CA Kirin strategic bombers.

The USEAAF makes another order to China Aviation, this time for 200 (2 untis) CA Kirin strategic bombers.

The sale is approved.

SIC (OOC: If not necessary, then ignore this):

The Korean Atomic Regulatory Agency quietly asks the Chinese if they have any uranium on hand, for fueling Yongbyon.

SIC (OOC: If not necessary, then ignore this):

The Korean Atomic Regulatory Agency quietly asks the Chinese if they have any uranium on hand, for fueling Yongbyon.

Secret IC:

China informs the Korean Atomic Regulatory Agency that China has uranium to spare, given that China has been steadily ramping up uranium production for nearly a decade.

Therefore, China can supply Yongbyon with the uranium it needs.