Assault on Mini Miehm near the GE border
The Hive was well along the way to completion, it had a Hatchery, Hydralisk Dens and Spawning Pools, Spires and Queens Nests, Ultralisk Caverns and Defiler Mounds, Sunken and Spore colonies defended the outskirts, and a full Brood was being Evolved from the creatures of this place, they were deadly mammalian beasts, of a size comparable with Ultralisks, and predatory, bearing massive fangs and claws, as well as a deadly barbed tail, they were dubbed Manticores by the Terrans who viewed them, and eventually became the newest Heavy Assault Breed, Mantisks, they would back the Ultralisks in ground battles, although none have demonstrated Brood-mutant abilities yet.
((Chron post, then I post, then the stage is set.))
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 01:37
((Chron post, then I post, then the stage is set.))
OOC: Bad choice my friend, a full swarm is on that planet, augmented by the new Mantisks, as well as my Darklings, the newest breed that resulted from Dark Eternal DNA, but I'll go with it, prepare to suffer at the hands of an entrenched swarm, with multi-racial support.
Chronosia
19-07-2005, 01:38
The Galactic Empire's scans had detected this fetid cancer in its midst; the feotal mass of Xeno corruption, insidiously usurping what belonged to the Empire. The ships of the Imperium, which had come now from the land of the Red Star, tore free from the confines of the Warp; a Commisar upon the deck gazed out at the world below.
"We shall deploy towards the Southern hemisphere, there you will be able to set up a preliminary base camp. We shall engage the enemy from above; bombing their borders and softening up this being of flesh. That is the will of the Emperor; so it shall be done"
The ships rent space; sliding towards the world; fighters and bombers slipping like hawks from docks; screeching to the world below, as the immense transport vessels violated the world. The shudder of Terra Firma was reassuring, even as the Guardsmen; an entire regiment, filled out. With them came armored Enginseer's, loyal to the Machine God; they would set down the plans for an Imperial Guard outpost. The Commisar bestrode the exit ramp, as countless of the Swarm's creatures poured forth.
"Let us cleanse taint from our midst, and restore all the purity of Chaos."
((7 million of the strongest breed, plus space and air support by United Sith and maybe Chronosia, we shall see.))
As the transports set down, the beasts flooded from the bays and entry ways of the transports. Hundreds, then thousands, then hundreds of thousands, then finally 7 million war beasts, ready for war and blood, set onto the ground.
The entire bulk of the army was Xenomorphs (http://www.planetavp.com/images/planetavpfeatures/2-xenomorph.jpg), and for every 50 thousand xenomorphs there was 1 lictor (http://warlocke.bizland.com/images/prepaint/lictor.jpg), and 1 carnifex (http://fantasymodelle.webspace4free.biz/warhammer40k/carnifex.jpg), and for ever million beasts, there were two lesser queens (http://www.xofacto.com/justin16/2queen.jpg) to help keep control, even though one lesser queen could command all 7 million, this was just easing the load.
As the queens set down, they ordered the more worker type of the xenos to begin tearing up the ground, and begin terra-forming the land to organics, so that it would act as a hub, and field hospital for injureds of the swarm.
Scouts ran in all directions, scouting the entire areas around the LZ.
Borman Empire
19-07-2005, 01:42
OOC: GE as in Generic Empire?
Chronosia
19-07-2005, 01:43
OOC: Galactic Empire
Borman Empire
19-07-2005, 01:44
OOC: Ok, Galactic Empire, nvm.
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 01:44
((7 million of the strongest breed, plus space and air support by United Sith and maybe Chronosia, we shall see.))
OOC: Beware AoN, I believe the Eternals and Gaians will come to my aid in this case, I am quite well reinforced, although my resources are getting stretched quite thin now.
OOC: *Points up at the 4th post*
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 01:50
The Galactic Empire's scans had detected this fetid cancer in its midst; the feotal mass of Xeno corruption, insidiously usurping what belonged to the Empire. The ships of the Imperium, which had come now from the land of the Red Star, tore free from the confines of the Warp; a Commisar upon the deck gazed out at the world below.
"We shall deploy towards the Southern hemisphere, there you will be able to set up a preliminary base camp. We shall engage the enemy from above; bombing their borders and softening up this being of flesh. That is the will of the Emperor; so it shall be done"
The ships rent space; sliding towards the world; fighters and bombers slipping like hawks from docks; screeching to the world below, as the immense transport vessels violated the world. The shudder of Terra Firma was reassuring, even as the Guardsmen; an entire regiment, filled out. With them came armored Enginseer's, loyal to the Machine God; they would set down the plans for an Imperial Guard outpost. The Commisar bestrode the exit ramp, as countless of the Swarm's creatures poured forth.
"Let us cleanse taint from our midst, and restore all the purity of Chaos."
The powerful psionic abilities of the Zerg Swarm detected the incoming Imperium ships, they were a threat that could not be ignored, Darklings and Mantlisks are the only troops in the southern hemisphere, and there are few of them, but they were ready to battle anything in their path, the Darklings were armed with Inmperium Bolters and DE Splinter guns, they would alert the Swarm and they would slow the beasts of the Imperium until the true power iof the Dominion coyuld be brought to bear.
The Scandinvans
19-07-2005, 01:54
OOC: DE stands for Dark Eternal right?
Chronosia
19-07-2005, 01:57
Commisar Andrei Zarcoff stood, gazing out across this world as the Xenomorph's commence their terraforming; even as their own terraforming, to an extent, took place. A rough line was being hewn; charges lain in the earth had been detonated, carving a trench into the earth, a line from which to fight; behind that they had fortified it with mud; pounding it into firmness, reinforcing with steel and barbed wire. In the Trench, snipers waited, ready to aid the Imperium, while common guardsman held Lasgun's close.
Behind the wall, the fortified positions were readied; fixed gun turrets; Lascannon and Missle Launcher stations; while further back, Basilisk artillery was wheeled out of the immense bulk of the ship. The Guard rallied; ready behind that wall of mud and steel; even as the ground shook with the tundling of Leman Russ tanks; Chimeras. Somewhere in the hold of a might ship, a Baneblade waited in reserve, but for now; they were ready. The line was forged, even as Andrei observed it, to row upon row of saluting soldiers.
"Men of Chronosia; we fight a foe that is not human; we fight a foe that does not know the glory of our gods, nor our love of our Emperor. I will tell you this; not all will live this day; countless will feed the carrion birds by nightfall, but our pact is simple. We have sworn our lives to the Emperor! He is our Lord and Guiding Light; Now, I ask you, would you die for him!"
"YES!" The resounding cry echoed through the crisp air.
"Then we will fight in his name; we will live forever in his service; do you want to live forever!"
"YES! FOR THE EMPEROR!"
"Then fight them! Fight the Xeno with courage and bravery; cleanse the heretic with prayer in your heart; let our faith nourish us, fuel us, and we shall know no fear"
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 01:59
OOC: DE stands for Dark Eternal right?
OOC: Dark Eldar, the Dark Eternal stuff is the Darklings I mentioned, my newest breed of combat form.
The connection to the main hive mind was severed, so that the Queen's fragile conciounce was left intact through the battle. The seven lesser queens were on their own, but far from helpless.
Massive phalanxes of gleaming black skull were forming, a lictor and carnifex in the center of 50 thousand highly active xenos. 140 'comapnies were made, each had it's own job in fighting decisive battles. Even though the units themselves were highly unspecialized, the companies themselves were.
100 of the companies set themselves up near the main border, while the other 40 covered the rear and flanks evenly.
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 02:05
OOC: *Points up at the 4th post*
OOC: Heh, missed that whole "deploying troops" part.
IC:
The new swarm wanted their territory, but they would be little threat to the might of the gathered broods, few could stand against the power of the Swarm, the Strains were already gathering for the battle ahead, the Sliver Breeds and their Brood-mutant reinforcements would hold the van, while the Zerg Swarms would bring up the rear and decimate their shattered foes ranks.
OOC: Give me some hard numbers on army size, so I can get a feel for this battle.
The Scandinvans
19-07-2005, 02:08
OOC: Thanks Mini Miehm.
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 02:09
OOC: Give me some hard numbers on army size, so I can get a feel for this battle.
OOC: 300 odd thousand, plus about 50 thousand more of my new units, mostly slivers and brood mutants backed by Zerg swarms.
Mini Miehm
19-07-2005, 02:10
OOC: Thanks Mini Miehm.
OOC: No thanks needed, I deal witrh questions like this alot.
OOC: Right, I am going to bed, I am going to ask that no assaults on either base be made while either me or Mini is gone, just to make it all fair.
Good night and I can't wait to do this thang.
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 17:16
OOC: Mini Miehm is tired of waiting, so Mini Miehm will make the first move.
IC:
The 300 troos on the far continent were ordered to attack the new Swarms hive, their weapons would be deadly to the weak shells of the Xenomorphs, and their grafted armor would hold against the strength of almost any blow that could be brought against them.
Chronosia
20-07-2005, 17:24
OOC: Fine, but no attacking till Azaha gets back!
That and I can't wait to use my guard on you :P
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 17:27
OOC: Fine, but no attacking till Azaha gets back!
That and I can't wait to use my guard on you :P
OOC: I can attack, just no fighting, there's a difference, and I doubt that your guard can stand against the armor and grafted cannon of my newer troops.
Chronosia
20-07-2005, 17:43
OOC: Wow, you'd better watch you don't choke on that arrogance :)
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 17:51
OOC: Wow, you'd better watch you don't choke on that arrogance :)
OOC: Well, if your guard can stand against something the size of an Ultralisk, with claws, teeth, and bolt\splinter\gauss\lascannon grafted onto its back, then I never want to fight them, if it's an even fight, then I have no issue with it, if it goes in my favor, well then, rock on.
I'm not arrogant, just confident that I can stand against almost anything that comes my way. :D
Chronosia
20-07-2005, 17:53
OOC: You've obviously never played Guard VS 'Nids then, have you. I'll just have my artillery and heavy fire support focus on the Monstrous Creatures; while guardsman pour fire into the smaller things. Meanwhile, you have my defensive line plus 7 million of the Swarm to deal with :)
Now whos confident? :P
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 18:02
OOC: You've obviously never played Guard VS 'Nids then, have you. I'll just have my artillery and heavy fire support focus on the Monstrous Creatures; while guardsman pour fire into the smaller things. Meanwhile, you have my defensive line plus 7 million of the Swarm to deal with :)
Now whos confident? :P
OOC: I don't use Guards or 'nids, I'm DE\Necrons, but my armor should hold against at least 1-2 direct hits(it's Monomolecular Blasteel, it'll hold at least that long) and in the time it takes them to take two hits, they'll be in among your guys and shredding you to bits with guns and blades.
Chronosia
20-07-2005, 18:07
OOC: Because they bypass the artillery, tanks, fortified positions and countless blasts of lascannon fire, grenades, probably flamers :P
We'll see Mini, just don't count your chickens; I'm not all powerful and neither are you. You need to stop being so presumptive, its rude :P
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 18:13
OOC: Because they bypass the artillery, tanks, fortified positions and countless blasts of lascannon fire, grenades, probably flamers :P
We'll see Mini, just don't count your chickens; I'm not all powerful and neither are you. You need to stop being so presumptive, its rude :P
OOC: Well, you can only have so much on the line at once, where-as my line is almost unlimited in size due to the whole "psychotic swarm of doom and killing" effect, I'll most likely end up with two ranks about 5 miles long. Note, flamers will have little effect on something that can survive re-entry, just thought you should consider that, the heavier Meltas might work, but flamers will be rather ineffective.
I'm not presumptive, just forgetful, I have this habit of not considering all the possibilities before I act.
Chronosia
20-07-2005, 18:16
OOC: FIne; I know alot of my Guardsman will be slaughtered; but by the Throne we'll take some of you with us. That and Azaha's swarm will be in front of my line :)
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 18:18
OOC: FIne; I know alot of my Guardsman will be slaughtered; but by the Throne we'll take some of you with us. That and Azaha's swarm will be in front of my line :)
OOC: Xenomorphs are cold meat, a single bolt pistol can kill a dozen of them with every shot, the Lictors and Carni's could be trouble, but the Gauss Flayers and Splinter cannon should do te trick.
Koprulu Colonies
20-07-2005, 19:11
{OOC: Zerg are naturally weak, they were made that way so that they could be mass produced quickly. Thats one reason why the Zerg could have a 90% fatality rating during a battle, and be 100% back to normal in a few weeks.}
Mini Miehm
20-07-2005, 19:18
{OOC: Zerg are naturally weak, they were made that way so that they could be mass produced quickly. Thats one reason why the Zerg could have a 90% fatality rating during a battle, and be 100% back to normal in a few weeks.}
OOC: Which ias one reason I use them, but my Zerg are tougher than normal, due to grafted Battleplate and ranged weapons, so I have a lower fatality rate.
OOC: Xenomorphs are cold meat, a single bolt pistol can kill a dozen of them with every shot, the Lictors and Carni's could be trouble, but the Gauss Flayers and Splinter cannon should do te trick.
OOC: Actually, wrong. If you have ever read the books or read the comics(Which I have read them all), they are not so easily taken care off. They are able to take multiple shots before they go down, yes htye have weak areas, buut in the heat of battle, no one has time to take proper aim, you take enough time to do that, you're already dead. There is also the effect of their acid blood. You hit one of these weak spots, acid blood sprays everywhere, again if you have read the books or comics, you would know that the blood eats through almost anything, and of course they are immune to the blood, aswell as the rest of the swarm.
Also Mini, 350k units is not an unlimited line of death, that is a small army. My 7 million is an unlimited line of death, a massive army, no one to date could take somthing 20 times their size(COuntry wise). I am not being mean Mini, but you must get real, with the combined forces, you won't be able to hold a planet with a force of a small garrison, when two armies, and later possibly three outnumbering you 21 or 22 to one.
YOu boast about having uber technology, I will give you that. But that is why Chron is here. His techs are compareable to yours, so there is a statemate right there, but I also outnumber you. Usually there is a point of quality over quantity, but like now, that goes right down the toilet because of the sheer mass of people.
IC:
The swarm reacted instantly. Three compnanies of 50,000 troops each focussed their attack on the pitiful force of 300. Assuming that one out of every twenty bullets hit(Normal for ground machine weapon fire.), even if they did land all the hits, it wouild be doubtful they even had the ammo to kill them all.
The swarms were at full stride, closing on on the enemy fast.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 16:12
OOC: Actually, wrong. If you have ever read the books or read the comics(Which I have read them all), they are not so easily taken care off. They are able to take multiple shots before they go down, yes htye have weak areas, buut in the heat of battle, no one has time to take proper aim, you take enough time to do that, you're already dead. There is also the effect of their acid blood. You hit one of these weak spots, acid blood sprays everywhere, again if you have read the books or comics, you would know that the blood eats through almost anything, and of course they are immune to the blood, aswell as the rest of the swarm.
Also Mini, 350k units is not an unlimited line of death, that is a small army. My 7 million is an unlimited line of death, a massive army, no one to date could take somthing 20 times their size(COuntry wise). I am not being mean Mini, but you must get real, with the combined forces, you won't be able to hold a planet with a force of a small garrison, when two armies, and later possibly three outnumbering you 21 or 22 to one.
YOu boast about having uber technology, I will give you that. But that is why Chron is here. His techs are compareable to yours, so there is a statemate right there, but I also outnumber you. Usually there is a point of quality over quantity, but like now, that goes right down the toilet because of the sheer mass of people.
IC:
The swarm reacted instantly. Three compnanies of 50,000 troops each focussed their attack on the pitiful force of 300. Assuming that one out of every twenty bullets hit(Normal for ground machine weapon fire.), even if they did land all the hits, it wouild be doubtful they even had the ammo to kill them all.
The swarms were at full stride, closing on on the enemy fast.
OOC: I've only read the first Alien book, and none of the comics, but I do know that HE bolter shells will trash a Xenomorph, maybe not by the dozen, but at least one at a time.
IC:
The heavy armor of the Mantisks held up under quite a bit of battering, and their Gauss Flayers ripped across the battlefield, bolts of energy that were capable of mowing down Space Marines were now turned against the much weaker Xenomorphs and their commanders, Darklings unleashed psionic storms into the mass of enemies, targeting the command units with their psychic power, while they ripped off blasts from splinter guns at the charging swarm, they were less well armored when compared to the Mantisks, but they had the advantage of being smaller, closer to the size of a human than an elephant, and their psionic powers gave them some protection from the incoming blasts, being able to deflect some, but not all, of the attacks coming at them, the ones that got through were wounding most of the time, but a few were killed by the sheer volume of fire against them.
Their mission was complete, they fell back, they had killed enough to make it worth the casualties they had taken in the assault, now they would lead the weaker Xenomorphs in a running battle through the forests and hills that dominated the landscape of this continent, they had the advantage, now it was time to use it.
They had taken minimal casualties overall int he war thus far. Around 10,000 units dead, but that was it.
They themselves fell back to the stronghold, as they were only the defendign force, and would continue to do that, defend.
They would continue to bide their time, until some bigger guns could be brought in.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 16:22
They had taken minimal casualties overall int he war thus far. Around 10,000 units dead, but that was it.
They themselves fell back to the stronghold, as they were only the defendign force, and would continue to do that, defend.
They would continue to bide their time, until some bigger guns could be brought in.
Since the enemy had not followed, and their casualties were at a ratio of about 200:1, they decided to loop arounsd and hit them again, this time from the west, they would whittle the enemy down, one strike at a time.
On the northern continent a group of overlords made ready to travel, 1000 of them would bring Zerglings, slivers, and Ultralisks to the battle in the south, they would be much more powerful than the force currently there, but it was questionable as to wether it would be enough.
The lesser queens did not like their defending force outside of the defence line. Each of them screeched out their orders physically and mentally, all 40 comapnies went back within the line, and away from the las cannon and gun emplacements, but not too far away where they couldn't lend aid of it wasn't needed.
The attacking line however, 100 companies of 50,000 beasts, started their march towards the northern base. Five million black writhing xenos, and 200 carnifexes and lictor's marched northerwards, staying spread so that no single artillery peice could take out an entire companies, but combat enough to where they could be able to aide each other if they came under attack.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 16:44
The lesser queens did not like their defending force outside of the defence line. Each of them screeched out their orders physically and mentally, all 40 comapnies went back within the line, and away from the las cannon and gun emplacements, but not too far away where they couldn't lend aid of it wasn't needed.
The attacking line however, 100 companies of 50,000 beasts, started their march towards the northern base. Five million black writhing xenos, and 200 carnifexes and lictor's marched northerwards, staying spread so that no single artillery peice could take out an entire companies, but combat enough to where they could be able to aide each other if they came under attack.
OOC: Tell me if my assumptions are out of line here.
IC:
The attack hit as the companies were en route to the stronghold, they went after one that was slightly farther from all the rest, and slightly hidden by a small line of hills that prevented the attack from being seen, they struck from cover this time, Gauss Flayers ripping their bolts of power across a pristine valey, before slamming into the Xenomorph lines with lethal purpose, Splinter cannon reaping a black harvest of chitin and bone, they struck and faded away into the forest almost immediately, if the enemy persued them, all for thye better, if not, they would simply strike again.
In the north the swarm prepared to defend itself, sunken colonies were the outlying defenses, and these had been modified, just like the rest of the zerg swarms, mounted with bolt turrets and medium armor, they would be the first line of defense, and the nidus canals would allow the true defenders to hold that line for as long as necessary.
The overlords were on the move, skirting the path of the encroaching horde to transport their lethal cargo deep into the territory of this foreign swarm.
It was not hard to see which direction the mass of fire was coming from, tearing up a company. While maybe the company under attack couldn't see it, the 5 closest companies could, and they closed in on the hill. Another 15 companies also closed in, but not takign a direct route. They circled the hill and forest, making their wya around it with lightning speed, while the first 5 companies went straight into the fray. The other 15 hoped to catch them by suprise, and prevent a retreat.
The rest of the swarm stopped itself, and immediatly began to tear up the land scape, making holes and mounds to hide behind. This was a precuationary measure until the other 20 companies returned successful.
Chronosia
21-07-2005, 17:02
The enemy swarms fought, like watching colonies of solider ants swarm against each other; red against black; that was how it stood upon this world. Like the cold and calculating insect minds, the Guardsmen were ready for war. With the swarms tearing each other apart, the Guard struck, the Hammer of the Emperor. Lasgun blasts and missles tore against the enemy; artillery thundered till the very earth shook; Tanks rolled forward, jumping with the sheer force of the blasts they unleashed.
The Commissar strode the line; looking at his men, offering encouragement in every word or deed; be it staring across the battlefield, or unleashing a volley of plasma fire into their ranks. "Fire into the thick of 'em men; aim for the big 'uns with precision and the little ones with massed heavy weapons fire. Tear these bastards apart!"
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 17:06
The attackers boke west again, trying for a gap in the lines, blazing a way through the trees with gauss fire and splinter bursts, they could cut through an enemy company if they hit hard enough and fast enough, and they could do both. The Darklings had gotten enough rest to repeat their performancwe of earlier, but they had a different card to play this time, sending three groups of Hallucinations, each identical to the true force, i the other three directions, suddenly facing 4 times as many enemies as they though they were fighting might give them pause enough to break through the lines, and make a run to safety.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 17:18
OOC: You realise my forces are in the trees right, and that being in the trees makes them kind of hard to target, right?
IC:
The blasts from lascannon and missiles tore into the north moving pack, the hallucinations were dissolved by the impact of the deadly weapons, but three more forces remained, and the enemy had no way to tell which was real and which was false.
The overlords took advantage of the enemies distraction, their sliver wings landed around their chosen site, and they disgorged hundreds of zerglings and ultralisks, zerglings armored with Neo-steel and armed with bolters, and Ultralisks armored with heavy ship plating, and armed with splinter cannon, or gauss flayers, there were 400 Ultralisks, and 6000 zerglings, they would drive into the distracted guard flanks and take the pressure off of the retreting strike teams.
The 20 companies surrounded the forested hills, and began to move in. The xenos cut ran through the firest, while the carnifexes and lictors cut down swaths of trees, making the forest a barrel land scape one swath at a time.
The swarm knew no fear, they were insentient beings, all they knew was to attack and conquer, so they did. The 1 million beasts swarmed the hullucinations and the real units, tearing into anything that seemed to move.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 17:30
The powerful Mantisks shredded anything that came close, their massive claws had been augmented by the power of the Swarm, and they had one other addition to their arsenal as well, their spiked tails had a little trick in them, and now they used it, volleying spikes at the enemy lines as they tried to break through, Gauss Flayers still blazing with verdant energy. The Darklings added their own formidable melee powers to the fray, using their psychic skills to their full, unleashing a psionic storm each, and lashing out with particle whips at the nearby Xenomorphs, while they stowed their heavy cannon and drew lighter splinter pistols, they were ready for almost any situation, and even out numbered by impossible odds, they would fight and die, for the glory of the swarm.
The Zerglings vollied their bolters at the defending guard units, and the ultralisks tri-barreled Gauss weapons clawed at the air wioth bolts of barely restrained power, one targeted the operators of the guns, the other targeted the guns themselves, bathing the area in a wash of destruction.
Chronosia
21-07-2005, 17:42
Guardsmen fell, yes, but others took their place; even as the great whistle blew; sending them forth from the trenches. Chainswords whirred as the Guardsmen charged at the beings nearest them; bolters and plasma weapons ringing out in glorious discharge; lasgun fire echoing through the fray.
A missle launcher position exploded, sending blazing shrapnel in all directions; the Basilisk's continued their roaring symphony of destruction, even as the Leman Russ and Chimera tanks slid forward to open fire upon their insidious parasitic enemy. The roar of weapons echoed, over and over again, as the Chronosians; true men, pure beings, opened fire against these hybrid beings; bastard forms, not animal, nor man, nor weapon. Heretical monstrosities...
OOC: Just want to point a few things out here.
1) Your ultralisks are armored with "Heavy ship plating", now yes Ultralisks are big, but ship plating is a few feet thick everywhere, if not way more, and extremely heavy, it is not light, because there is no gravity or friction in space, so no need for light stuff. Now to say that your ultralisks are armored by this, sure could be feasible, but it would take every bit of the ultralisks power to just keep standing, if they were covered all over by it, or just mostly by it. Maybe they can waddle over to enemies and try to run into them at 1 MPH, but I doubt they could lift their claws and swipe quickly enough to do any damage.
2) Your basic units. These basic units seem to have it all, psyker power of templars, firepower of reavers and eldar dark reapers, outstanding melee skills, big guns and then some, aswell as armor, I put them in the same predictament as the ultralisks, and I also call it out as minor god moding. These aren't basic units. These are gods.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 17:50
The powerful plasma weapons melted armor, and split the carapace beneath the armor, but the bolters mostly singed, or pitted the armor, not truly damaging the beasts beneath, while the enemy charged the Zerglings continued their fire, washing wave after wave of bolter rounds over the enemy positions, the ultralisks lathed the area with the brilliant glow of Gauss bolts, blasting away at everything in their sights, giving special attention to the gun positions that were devestating their troops in the forest, then they closed, gauss flayers and bolters continued to rar, their attacks now minled with the shrieks of the dying and the guttural growling of chainswords, then the shrieks of metal on metal, as chainsword met armor, and they fought to see who would win, zergling claws strove against guard protrections, while massive kaiser blades reaped a path of destruction through the enemy forces in their path, lashing out at anything that opposed them, and trampling anything in their way.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 17:58
OOC: Just want to point a few things out here.
1) Your ultralisks are armored with "Heavy ship plating", now yes Ultralisks are big, but ship plating is a few feet thick everywhere, if not way more, and extremely heavy, it is not light, because there is no gravity or friction in space, so no need for light stuff. Now to say that your ultralisks are armored by this, sure could be feasible, but it would take every bit of the ultralisks power to just keep standing, if they were covered all over by it, or just mostly by it. Maybe they can waddle over to enemies and try to run into them at 1 MPH, but I doubt they could lift their claws and swipe quickly enough to do any damage.
2) Your basic units. These basic units seem to have it all, psyker power of templars, firepower of reavers and eldar dark reapers, outstanding melee skills, big guns and then some, aswell as armor, I put them in the same predictament as the ultralisks, and I also call it out as minor god moding. These aren't basic units. These are gods.
OOC:
1: The ultralisks are covered in protoss heavy ship plating, which operates in atmosphere, it has to be light, or else they wouldn't be able to fly, they are also armored mostly on the carapace around their head, and a little on the back, the legs and most of the rest are just covered in standard chitin. If you like I will drop it to light ship plating, or heavy armor plating.(like for the reavers)
EDIT: If I drop the armor quality, I will cover the entire Ultralisk with the armor, due to the reduced weight.
2: Darklings are anything but basic units, they are hero class units, like SCs HKs, or Devouring Maws(hydralisk and zergling heroes respectively), they are made from Dark Eternal genetics, making them extremely powerful, so far you have killed 10 of the 30 I sent out, but they can hold their own in a fight against anything short of a full on mobbing(this qualifies as a mobbing, which is why they are dying), lastly, they wear their armor, like Protoss or terrans, they are humanoid, meaning that they aren't encumbered the same way that a grafted being would be.
OOC: So what you're saying is, they are so godly, that 20 out of 30 is surviving an onslaught of 1 million, this also includes many carnifexes and lictors.
OOC: Also take note.
This is my *entire* army, that is whyt here is so many. These aren't just weak cannon fodder, they are elite top of the line units. This is roughly 2 or 3% of my population, which for any country is the standard military force. You see them as only winning in masses because there are so many of them. Wrong, I play by the NS populations. Just soy ou know that these aren't weak cannon fodder, these are, as I said, elite powerful units. Normally I wouldn't send my whole army at once, but this is a special occasion. Perhaps after the abble the queens will split up and take their armies elsewhere, but this planet will be taken, with minumal losses, because they are taking on some one much smaller in force than them. I will not say my units are as advanced as yours, but they are just as tough.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 18:11
OOC: So what you're saying is, they are so godly, that 20 out of 30 is surviving an onslaught of 1 million, this also includes many carnifexes and lictors.
OOC: I'm saying that the Xenos are all thgats gotrten to them so far, meaning the real weapons in your force haven't started the damage dealing, remember, 200:1 kill ratio for the first encounter, due mostly to armor and thwe fact that theyretreated almost immediately, most of the casualties right now are among the front line Mantisks, which are like tanks for my strike forces. The Darklings are going to die soon enough, but not yet, everything happens in its own time, and tyhe time for the Darklings to engage something truly powerful has not yet occured, the Lictors and Carbnifexs will kill them, but the Xenos are not nearly as powerful as the rest, they will get slaughtered in any fight you're in, same for my zerglings and other light units, but my heavy units are like everybody elses heavy units, tough enough to take a really nasty beating and keep giving it back.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 18:14
OOC: Also take note.
This is my *entire* army, that is whyt here is so many. These aren't just weak cannon fodder, they are elite top of the line units. This is roughly 2 or 3% of my population, which for any country is the standard military force. You see them as only winning in masses because there are so many of them. Wrong, I play by the NS populations. Just soy ou know that these aren't weak cannon fodder, these are, as I said, elite powerful units. Normally I wouldn't send my whole army at once, but this is a special occasion. Perhaps after the abble the queens will split up and take their armies elsewhere, but this planet will be taken, with minumal losses, because they are taking on some one much smaller in force than them. I will not say my units are as advanced as yours, but they are just as tough.
OOC: Even bull aliens are much weaker than what I've got, the numbers will be enough to beat me, but minimal casualties are not something you're going to get, and it's a bad idea to ever expect minimal casualties against my forces, they have a habit of coming back to bite you in the ass, or blowing themselves to hell in a massive cataclysm, that usually takes them, and most of their enemies, to meet the reaper.
I'll give on the Ultralisk armor, and Darkling fatalities, but nothing else, they keep their weapons and powers.
Chronosia
21-07-2005, 18:19
With their tank and artillery support bringing up the rear, the Imperial forces continued to fire at their enemy; even as massive casualties ensued; men torn apart by chitinous claws, armor rent by fangs. Yet they would not give up; flamers roared into the crowd; Inferno cannons and Hellguns; Melta guns and missles roaring into the alien horde; this insufferable enemy. Long ago, these men had heard tales of how the Tyranids assaulted the Old Imperium; now they fought an enemy very much like it, yet modified by a twisted alien intelligence.
High above; the Imperial fleet which had brought the Swarm here unloaded orbital bombardment cannons towards the surface; Swiftdeath fighters and Doomfire bombers disengaging and hurtling towards the planet.
They had promised their allies air support; and here it was.
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 18:27
With their tank and artillery support bringing up the rear, the Imperial forces continued to fire at their enemy; even as massive casualties ensued; men torn apart by chitinous claws, armor rent by fangs. Yet they would not give up; flamers roared into the crowd; Inferno cannons and Hellguns; Melta guns and missles roaring into the alien horde; this insufferable enemy. Long ago, these men had heard tales of how the Tyranids assaulted the Old Imperium; now they fought an enemy very much like it, yet modified by a twisted alien intelligence.
High above; the Imperial fleet which had brought the Swarm here unloaded orbital bombardment cannons towards the surface; Swiftdeath fighters and Doomfire bombers disengaging and hurtling towards the planet.
They had promised their allies air support; and here it was.
OOC: You're drooping orbital bombardment on people who are meleeing witrh you and your ally? Are you crazier than I thought?
IC:
The attackers from above were little threat, they were in among the guard now, they wouldn't dare hitting them now, and the hive was protected by slivers and Spore colonies, they were safe from the enemies above, and that let them concentrate on the enemies around them, using their weapons, biological and grafted, to defeat the fools who would oppose the swarm, zerglings fell and ultralisks took damage, but the swarm lived on, nothing could stop the swarm.
OOC2: I will be bringing in reinforcements, so beware, I'm not giving this planet up without a fight.
OOC: point is I will not have too much of my army die on a measily planet vs a force much smaller then my own. Most casualties I will allow is 1/7th of my army.
IC:
Xenos took and kept coming, some had their legs completely removed, but they still crawled towards their enemies, until finally either their head was shot and blown up, or their bodies were just so mangled they could not function.
They swarmed all they could over the fire, they used their own brethren to sheild themselves from fire, the dead bodies of their comrades slowing down the bullets before they got to them. With this tactic they gained much needed ground on the darklings, but were not getting close enough. Finally, 10 lictors and 5 carnifexes reached the front lines of this skirmish. The carnifexes lumbered out infront, while two lictors stayed well behind them, the carnifex taking most of the fire, as the lictors were unharmed.
They increased their ground dramaticly, and once the carnifex was too shot up to continue, the lictors lept from behind the beast at the darklings, their lone back mounted claws exteneted to kill. All the while xenos still gaining their own ground.
Back at the main swarm base, the terra forming was a success. The 14 lesser queens had finished their work on creating a secret weapon in the ground. They had used bio-organics to create a giant "mouth" in the ground.
It breathed in a massive ammount of air, then exhaled, exuding an extremely fine red mist into the atmosphere around the fortress. This was meant to make ranged weapons almost impossible to use because of poor visibility, but the Swarm would have a field day as they didn't use ranged weapons.
Chronosia
21-07-2005, 18:35
The Guardsmen fought on, fighting with a zeal that mirrored their brother Space Marines; their weapons slick with alien ichors; their armor stained with their own blood and the vile pestilant fluids of their enemies. The artillery slammed into countless Imperial's before, or beyond the line. They did not seem to realise that the lives of mere soldiers matters little to the Imperium; the results, are what matter.
In space, the warp itself tore apart as the Battle Barge "Radient Immaterium" emerged, a gleaming, shimmering instrument of the Gods. It advanced upon the world; it's drop pods readied; filled with the Marines of the Nelo Angelus; agents of the Inquisition...
The pods tore through the shimmering atmosphere of the world, impacting with a roaring thunder about the base. Plasma hurtled from their weapons; missles shrieked across the sky, flanking the enemy; bolters and heavy bolters roared. The crakcle of lightning claws was thick as the Terminators of the Veteran's Company advanced, opening fire with their glorious Stormbolters.
"FOR THE EMPEROR!" Came the bellowed roar. "We come to aid our allies"
The Librarian stepped forht, letting his considerable psychic gift touch the Hive Mind.
We come with blessing from our Emperor; we shall aid you this day, children of the Queen; sons of the Red Star
Mini Miehm
21-07-2005, 19:08
The Guardsmen fought on, fighting with a zeal that mirrored their brother Space Marines; their weapons slick with alien ichors; their armor stained with their own blood and the vile pestilant fluids of their enemies. The artillery slammed into countless Imperial's before, or beyond the line. They did not seem to realise that the lives of mere soldiers matters little to the Imperium; the results, are what matter.
In space, the warp itself tore apart as the Battle Barge "Radient Immaterium" emerged, a gleaming, shimmering instrument of the Gods. It advanced upon the world; it's drop pods readied; filled with the Marines of the Nelo Angelus; agents of the Inquisition...
The pods tore through the shimmering atmosphere of the world, impacting with a roaring thunder about the base. Plasma hurtled from their weapons; missles shrieked across the sky, flanking the enemy; bolters and heavy bolters roared. The crakcle of lightning claws was thick as the Terminators of the Veteran's Company advanced, opening fire with their glorious Stormbolters.
"FOR THE EMPEROR!" Came the bellowed roar. "We come to aid our allies"
The Librarian stepped forht, letting his considerable psychic gift touch the Hive Mind.
We come with blessing from our Emperor; we shall aid you this day, children of the Queen; sons of the Red Star
OOC: I'm involved in way too many RPs that have made it to the first page, I'm too busy posting to do anything else.
IC:
They had dropped their weapons on their own forces, what a waste, but now they would reap what they had sown, the surviving ultralisks trained their Gauss weapons on the sky, lashing the air with bolts of coherent force, their blades took on the guard around them as their guns swatted at the fighters in the sky.
The zerglings were mangled by the attack, they didn't have nearly as much armor as the ultralisks, and they were smaller as well, meaning that the blasts had more effect on them than it did on the larger and more powerful ultralisks, half of them were either dead or crippled, the crippled fought on, waiting for their body parts to grow back, and as they waited, they fired, filling the air with HE bolts.
The assault of the Carnifexs and Lictors finally overwhelmed the remaining Darklings, they fought back asd hard as they could, but even with their power they were brought down by the deadly Lictors, they killwed as many as they could before dying, and they fought on in death, the powerpacks to their weapons set to overload on death, taking a few more with them into hell.
The Mantisks kept fighting, there were only 100 left now, but they were deadly and fast, wreaking destruction on anything in their path, until they inevitably encountered one of the Tyranids, then it was 50 50 odds as to who would win, sometimes it was the Mantisk, sometimes not, either way they kept fighting, they would fight to the death, their deadly gauss guns blazing away to the last.
The 14 queens screamed in acknowledgment of the Librarian, and spoke in unison mentally.
Fight, conquer, kill, win.
Since they had finished their terra forming of the land and finished the giant obscuring weapon on the planet's surface, the could now focus on the fighting.
The Swarm's forces became drastically more organized, and used much more tactic now to achieve their goals against a more advanced enemy.
Xenos would use their dead to take cover until fire stopped coming their way, and then leap 10 at a time at any one unit.
Carnifexes and lictors still did their own tactic, using the carnifexes as walking walls until the lictors were close enough to strike.
They had figured out weak points in armor, joints and kinks. They had also figured out that the head held the brain, which from this point they would try to barrel into the head, tyring to confuse the enemy and knock it down for the killing blow.
This would be a much more organized and less costly battle now.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 19:07
The 14 queens screamed in acknowledgment of the Librarian, and spoke in unison mentally.
Fight, conquer, kill, win.
Since they had finished their terra forming of the land and finished the giant obscuring weapon on the planet's surface, the could now focus on the fighting.
The Swarm's forces became drastically more organized, and used much more tactic now to achieve their goals against a more advanced enemy.
Xenos would use their dead to take cover until fire stopped coming their way, and then leap 10 at a time at any one unit.
Carnifexes and lictors still did their own tactic, using the carnifexes as walking walls until the lictors were close enough to strike.
They had figured out weak points in armor, joints and kinks. They had also figured out that the head held the brain, which from this point they would try to barrel into the head, tyring to confuse the enemy and knock it down for the killing blow.
This would be a much more organized and less costly battle now.
The Mantisks took note of the change in tactics, they were mighty, but they were being whittled away to nothing by the continuous onslaught, their weapons belched coherent light, destroying anything in their path, their claws shredded any who came close, and still it was not enough, they fell, one by one or in groups, overwhelmed by the sheer mass of the enemy attacks, but they fought to the last, and even when the last was dead they fought, their bodies reacting to trhe final orders they had recieved from the brain, firing round after round, not aiming at anything, but still firing spasmodically, they were of the swarm, and the swarm never failed.
Back in the north a force of tiny scourges leapt into the sky, they sought the planes of the guard, the fools who had been so bold as to strike at the might of the swarm.
Once again, the dulled down army went northwards, to finish off what was left at the base. The Swarm had never encountered such losses, but this was also the first time they have really set foot on another world en masse.
Most of the carnifexes had been destroyed while being used as walls, and only half the lictors walked, though even some of them wounded.
Seven Queens marched with the army, providing support for the 89 remaining companies, while the other seven stayed back at the base, with the now 34 companies, instead of the 40 that used to be stationed.
The main force were fleet of foot, they ran towards the north, trying to get to the 5 mile point, the point was 5 miles away from the main perimeter. Any slow or wounded were left behind to die, which was not many as many of those who were wounded, died long ago.
Chronosia
22-07-2005, 19:42
The Bombers dove beneath the scourge fliers; dropping their deadly paylods; several torn asunder by these things. Fighters whirled and dove in the cerulean sky, their weapons blazing, but even their number were not safe.
The Librarian looked across the field of battle; sending his mind forth to the swarm. "I have been sent to grant you a gift. Take the flesh of those who have fallen this day; make it your own. Take my flesh...Take my knowledge; my understanding...Take my power."
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 19:48
At the hive there was much clamour, there was a swift breeding and grafting program going on, and drones were kiled to act as hosts for the Brood Slivers eggs, boosting the numbers of the swarm, Mantisks and Darklings were few in number, but they were powerful enough to at least turn the tide, and a few Heroes were in the area, Torrasque, Kerrigan, the Sliver Queen, The Sliver Overlord, Breed X1, many HKs and Devouring Maws reinforced the ranks of the swarm, and a new batch of allies was on their way, a mighty Eternal made Worldship, armed with the mightiest of weapons that the Dominion had to offer was on the way, bearing another 300,000 assorted Terrans and Protoss, as well as a few thousand more Slivers and Brood Mutants, they would not be denied this world, a full fleet was with the worldship, prepared to defend it long enough for it to reach the surface and wreak destruction on the foolish Guard.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 19:53
The Bombers dove beneath the scourge fliers; dropping their deadly paylods; several torn asunder by these things. Fighters whirled and dove in the cerulean sky, their weapons blazing, but even their number were not safe.
The Librarian looked across the field of battle; sending his mind forth to the swarm. "I have been sent to grant you a gift. Take the flesh of those who have fallen this day; make it your own. Take my flesh...Take my knowledge; my understanding...Take my power."
The Scourges reaped a deadly harvest, slamming into any plane in their path, and detonating, acting as plasma bombs to dwestroy the foes of the Hive, those that were merely crippled served as well, falling into the ranks of the Gurd below, and detonating as if they had hit a plane, they died, but they took foes with them.
Chronosia
22-07-2005, 20:17
"I'm calling in the big guns." Andrei muttered, engaging his voxcaster. "Fleet, this is Zarcoff; send out the signal for reinforcements. I want the north of this planet to be nothing but glass by the time the Swarm reaches it. Zarcoff out" He turned, glancing about the battlefield. "Men, I want you to spread out; this base if no longer secure. I want a tight ship kept, I want a steady northern advance behind the swarm."
The Space Marines came to him, their men and vehicles joining the army as it pushed on with the swarm, even as planes fell from the sky around them, showering the area in shrapnel.
"Good work, Commisar. We shall take over from here; you shall aid us in the northern advance"
"It would be my honor, Lord..."
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 20:22
The Worldship appeared, surrounded by 100 Carrier variants and 300 support ships, Legion Gunships, Scouts, Arbiters, and Corsairs, they would take on the enemy fleet while the Worldship landed its reinforcements, they would not give up this planet to the Empire without a fight.
The force had barely reached the 5 mile marker when a sudden scream came from all of the queens.
Retreat. Evacuate. Death from above.
Immediatly the swarm turned on it's heels and high-tailed it out of there, heading back towards the main base. They went at super fast speeds, their instinctive will of surival kicking in extra adrenaline.
Upon reaching the main base, they would tear up the terra-formed ground, and destroy the giant mouth, making sure nothing was left to be salvaged. Then they would board the transports of the chaos, and let the massive space fleets deal with each other.
This conflict had grown too much in scale to rely on ground forces.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 20:33
The Hive moved on thwe attack, not letting the other swarm recover from the appearance of the fleet above them, they moved, charging out of their defenses with their guns blazing, light and shells mixed with Gauss energy to provide an eery counterpoint to the shreiking of the advancing horde.
OOC: I am running away, not attacking.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 20:44
OOC: I am running away, not attacking.
OOC: I am going on the attack, never run from the zerg, it just makes them chase you.
OOC: we are running faster, no weapon or armor encumb. Plus all our defenders including Chron, you won't take anymore masses.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 20:58
OOC: we are running faster, no weapon or armor encumb. Plus all our defenders including Chron, you won't take anymore masses.
OOC: You can outrun my shots? I'm still going to do my best to hurt you since you're trying to run, I can fire some high-angle weapons and at least drop some hurt on your head. I won't do much damage, I grant you that much, but I'm not gonna let you get away unscathed either.
OOC Thing is, we were already 5 miles away from the nearest defenders. THey had never gone past that point, infact they had just gotten there when the order was given to restreat, unless you hav heavy arty or some extremely accurate huge sniper weapons, won't be able to catch them.
Chronosia
22-07-2005, 21:03
The Guardsmen forced their way through their alien allies as artillery soared over their heads; basilisks raining death upon the enemy, as the Guard charged through, weapons screaming, bayonets sharp. They plunged, head first into the Xenos scum, bringing Chainsword to meet carapace; flesh against fang. Flamers roared, Melta's bellowed as the relentless guardsmen continued. Bombers strafed above; dropping their deadly payloads into the thick of the Swarm which had been loosed; even plunging into them when a Scourge leaped through them.
This was the truest vision of Hell. Bolter fire seared the enemy as the Marines advanced, Predator and Leman Russ tanks flanking the Scourge as Dreadnoughts waded towards them. This was the moment of doom, this was the hour at hand.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 21:15
The Guards were cutting into the swarm, but their weapons were weak against the deadly Gauss Flayers and Splinter Cannon of the Horde, many fell in the ensuing melee, but there werwe many more where that came from, meaning that they could afford horrendous losses and still win.
The heroes waded in, Kerrigan cloaked and weilding her blades with deadly efficiency, the Queen and Overlord blasting away at any enemy they saw, targeting the tanks for special attention, the overlord had five heads, five arms, and ten guns, all of the Gauss or Splinter cannon, while the queens massive tribarrel clawed the air with deadly Gauss bolts, and her bladed arms clove any who got in her path, Torrasque was an engine of destruction, armed with another tribarrel and using it with no care for who his targets were, the Devouring Maws and Hunter Killers engaged with bolters and lighter splinter guns, still powerful, but not on the level of the Overlords massive cannon.
Breed X1 was a true monster, taller than any Daemon, taller than the Overklord, who stood three stories high, taller even than the massive queen, it reaped a deadly whirlwind through the guard ranks, dual tribarrel Gauss Flayers belched incandescent energy, cratering the ground whenm tey impacted, whil the massive Breeds blades could sweep a square ten feet on a side clean of enemies, they weren't actually doing that, but they had that capability agains unarmored opponents.
The Swarm was on the warpath, and little could stand in their way.
Quickly the swarm boarded the massive transports that had brought htem to the world.
First the remaining assault companies, then the defender companies tricked in, covering their flanks incase of fast attackers and skirmishers.
Chronosia
22-07-2005, 21:25
OOC: You missed out the effects of all my non-melee weapons, plus artillery, plus tanks....Plus bombers...Right in the middle of your swarm, no less
IC: The transports roared through the atmosphere of the world, emerging on the other side of the planet from the hostile ships and tearing into the Warp.
The Chronosian fleet turned to meet the enemy straight on; concentrating its waves of fire against this foe; their cannons roared, lances surged forth and missles and torpedoes seemed to fill the void....
Unified Sith
22-07-2005, 21:48
INCOMING TRANSMISSION ~ PRIORITY ONE - LARGE GRAVITY WELL DETECTED - INVASION RESPONSE PRIORITY ALPHA.
REACTION DEMANDED ~ PLANET DESTROYING RESPONSE
AUTO TRANSMISSION DISPATCHED
CONFLCIT ESCALATION IN SYSTEM P3E22L
“Hmmmm” Veril sighed with a gentle whisper. “It seems that this conflict has escalated beyond the average Imperial war.”
“What do you think we should do?”
“The usual, implement a full tactical response, and begin termination procedures of all enemy craft. I would employ the Galaxy Gun if it were completed, but alas Kuat can only work so fast.” The Admiral feigned disappointment. “I think we can send out the battlestation…..”
“I agree.” Came the voice in reciprocation. “Shall I transmit the departure orders?”
“Indeed, we shall leave immediately, it is time to show these vagabonds the true nature of Imperial firepower.”
Periphery of P3E22L
Smashing through the localised dust cloud and stellar matter a vast shadow would encroach upon the system, Larger than any vessel, stronger than the entire Imperial navy this dark beast would demand destruction and revenge for the deaths, for the insult inflicted upon the Galactic Empire.
Hurtling through the system at almost five times the speed of light a great gravity well would pull comets which had repeated their cycles for thousands of years out of their iron schedule.
In one station, in one craft, the Imperial navy employed over a million personnel. It was a statement of power and brutality, those who resisted the iron will of the emperor would be punished. Those who continued to resist would be executed and destroyed. Those who refused to fear would be taught terror.
Passing one of the systems secondary gas giants the enemy forces would soon detect the vast object that is the Death Star.
On board the bridge Admiral Veril slid his hand over the firing mechanism, we’re close enough he chuckled. ”Raise faster than light inhibitors. All crews to their stations, and full power to the Superlaser, prepare to open fire.”
In the void of space the galactic Empire would scream for revenge, in the void of space the Galactic Empire would demonstrate its power. In the void of space, a race and a world would be destroyed…….
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 21:50
OOC: You missed out the effects of all my non-melee weapons, plus artillery, plus tanks....Plus bombers...Right in the middle of your swarm, no less
IC: The transports roared through the atmosphere of the world, emerging on the other side of the planet from the hostile ships and tearing into the Warp.
The Chronosian fleet turned to meet the enemy straight on; concentrating its waves of fire against this foe; their cannons roared, lances surged forth and missles and torpedoes seemed to fill the void....
OOC: I noted it in my casualty figures, but didn't type up a response, just that I'm wailing into your troops with my melee attacks and grafted weapons. It's killed about 3,000 so far, happy that I've told you about the cassualties at least?
Is there an FTLi up here?
IC:
The massive Worldship had shields made by the Eternals, they flared brightly, but they held under their punishment(I need to get an idea of what these shields can take from The Scandivans), the other ships fared less sucessfully, many shields buckled under the pounding of the enemy weapons, and armor was shattered by the onslaught of the powerful guns that were turned against them. They retaliated, interceptors surged out to meet them, and many of the lesser fleet units accelerated to engage, while the heavies held back to pound from afar with SCARAB torpedoes and Phase Disruption Cannon, or Yamato guns, as the case may have been, they returned the enemies fire, erg for erg, unleashing a deadly broadside at the encroaching Imperium ships.
The Arbiters held back with the heavy units, preparing a surprise for the Chronosian ships, they would not escape this trap so easily as they had in many other places.
Mini Miehm
22-07-2005, 21:59
INCOMING TRANSMISSION ~ PRIORITY ONE - LARGE GRAVITY WELL DETECTED - INVASION RESPONSE PRIORITY ALPHA.
REACTION DEMANDED ~ PLANET DESTROYING RESPONSE
AUTO TRANSMISSION DISPATCHED
CONFLCIT ESCALATION IN SYSTEM P3E22L
“Hmmmm” Veril sighed with a gentle whisper. “It seems that this conflict has escalated beyond the average Imperial war.”
“What do you think we should do?”
“The usual, implement a full tactical response, and begin termination procedures of all enemy craft. I would employ the Galaxy Gun if it were completed, but alas Kuat can only work so fast.” The Admiral feigned disappointment. “I think we can send out the battlestation…..”
“I agree.” Came the voice in reciprocation. “Shall I transmit the departure orders?”
“Indeed, we shall leave immediately, it is time to show these vagabonds the true nature of Imperial firepower.”
Periphery of P3E22L
Smashing through the localised dust cloud and stellar matter a vast shadow would encroach upon the system, Larger than any vessel, stronger than the entire Imperial navy this dark beast would demand destruction and revenge for the deaths, for the insult inflicted upon the Galactic Empire.
Hurtling through the system at almost five times the speed of light a great gravity well would pull comets which had repeated their cycles for thousands of years out of their iron schedule.
In one station, in one craft, the Imperial navy employed over a million personnel. It was a statement of power and brutality, those who resisted the iron will of the emperor would be punished. Those who continued to resist would be executed and destroyed. Those who refused to fear would be taught terror.
Passing one of the systems secondary gas giants the enemy forces would soon detect the vast object that is the Death Star.
On board the bridge Admiral Veril slid his hand over the firing mechanism, we’re close enough he chuckled. ”Raise faster than light inhibitors. All crews to their stations, and full power to the Superlaser, prepare to open fire.”
In the void of space the galactic Empire would scream for revenge, in the void of space the Galactic Empire would demonstrate its power. In the void of space, a race and a world would be destroyed…….
OOC: Right then, get realistic, there is no way that one vessel, or station, could overpower an entire navy, a navy has alot more guns than that station does, no matter how big it is, I'm calling Godmod for two reasons, because, one, if you didn't detect a few HUNDRED THOUSAND zerg making a transfer to real space, you're not going to detect a few thousand protoss and terran ships make the same translation, meaning you couldn't know I was here, two, that thing defies reality, 5Xc and it's bigger than anything else in existence, nuh-uh, not happening, it would A: crush everyone onboard under that much accel, or, B: have more power than a Dyson Sphere, to move something that nig, that fast, explain or be ignored.
Chronosia
22-07-2005, 22:01
The Chronosian ships struck, raising an FTLi field extending 6 lightyears, as they retreated into the comforting shadow of the Death Star, openign fire at the enemy vessels as they did so.
More artillery pounded into the enemy on the ground; surely culling thousands of the fiends with superior arcs of firepower. These half flesh, half weapon heresies; would be all but crushed under the combined might of man and artillery...
Unified Sith
22-07-2005, 22:18
OOC: Right then, get realistic, there is no way that one vessel, or station, could overpower an entire navy, a navy has alot more guns than that station does, no matter how big it is, I'm calling Godmod for two reasons, because, one, if you didn't detect a few HUNDRED THOUSAND zerg making a transfer to real space, you're not going to detect a few thousand protoss and terran ships make the same translation, meaning you couldn't know I was here, two, that thing defies reality, 5Xc and it's bigger than anything else in existence, nuh-uh, not happening, it would A: crush everyone onboard under that much accel, or, B: have more power than a Dyson Sphere, to move something that nig, that fast, explain or be ignored.
First of all me and Chronosia are allies, secondly Azaha found you because of the established Imperial sensor network, which was constructed according to this post. If you note it, there are sensors in position to detect all activity on the borders due to rebel operations. Secondly I had Azaha and Chron attack you, as we're allies. Only the appearance of your world ship has caused the Empire to take alot of notice.
Thread found here - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430073
Now on the Death Star.
The Death Star establishes a benchmark for Imperial technology and resources, and this benchmark is so high that some cultists will quite literally do or say anything to refute it. The typical response to any Death Star-related discussion is to claim that the Death Star was not as powerful as claimed, or that the Death Star is a freakish anomaly, millenia ahead of all other technology. Both claims are ludicrous to the point of being idiotic; the Death Star's power is irrefutably established in canon by the destruction of Alderaan, and it is idiotic to believe that the power generation or weapons technology of an ISD would be millenia behind a Death Star constructed by the same civilization.
The absolute lower limit for the gravitational binding energy of an Earth-like planet is 2.2E32 joules. There are many different ways to damage a planet, but you can quite literally slice, dice, melt, or vaporize a planet without destroying it. The only way to destroy it is to scatter its mass at incredible speed, so that gravitational forces cannot re-assemble it.
Of course, absolute limits are usually much lower than realistic figures, and this is no exception. If Alderaan exploded at mere escape velocity, it would have taken more than ten minutes to double in size. This obviously wasn't the case; the planet exploded very violently. Scaling of the Alderaan destruction scene in ANH leads to the conclusion that the approximate speed of the debris cloud's outermost region (not the meaningless pyrotechnic "ring" seen in the SE's) is roughly 1.8E7 m/s. Therefore, if we assume that the average velocity of the "cloud" was roughly 1/3 this amount, then a more accurate energy estimate is 1E38 joules.
It is often stated that the Death Star takes one full day to charge its main weapon for a planet-destroying blast, although this is actually over-conservative since the original Death Star destroyed Alderaan and was already charged and ready to destroy the rebel base on Yavin's moon later that day. Nevertheless, we can use the 1-day figure to determine that it must generate at least 1.2E33 watts on a steady-state basis to charge the weapon, plus whatever it needs to power the station's systems and propel the station through space. This amount of energy is enormously large- equivalent to 3 million times the power output of our sun! Neither nuclear fusion or matter/antimatter reaction would be sufficient to produce this much power, which is why the Death Star requires a hypermatter reactor, as mentioned in Star Wars Cross Sections. This hypermatter reactor is far more powerful than anything yet seen in the Galaxy belonging to another race, being capable of producing millions of times the energy of the sun.
Some cultists angrily dispute the enormous power estimates for the Death Star. Some of them claim that 1E38 joules is not required to raise the energy state of Alderaan by 1E38 joules (thus revealing their ignorance of the First Law of Thermodynamics), while others claim that the Death Star weapon may draw upon energy from another source such as the NDF harvested by phasers. However, this is simply not the case: according to SWICS, "the Death Star is built around a hypermatter reactor which can generate enough power to destroy an entire planet."- this is an explicit statement indicating that the necessary energy comes entirely from the Death Star's hypermatter reactor core, not from the target matter or any other tertiary source.
The Death Star's massive firepower reinforces the firepower estimates for other Imperial weapons, since they all derive from the same technological base (this is one of the primary reasons that cultists have desperately attempted to dispute Death Star firepower estimates). Superlasers are not new technology; Mon Mothma described the original Death Star's superlaser as "the most powerful superlaser ever constructed" rather than "a new weapon known as a superlaser" (ref. Soldier for the Empire). This indicates that superlasers have been constructed before, but on a smaller scale.
Thanks to SD.net for all my Imperial needs.
Dude...
Your population has 500 million...
How could you possibly support thousands upon thousands of zerg ships... and protoss and Terran armadas... AND we havn't even gotten to the ground forces.
The norm for any ground force is 2 or 3% of the population.
You can't *possibly* support your current force,y our navies already outweigh these number facts, unless your zerg ships have only a few pilots and are fighter sized. This is including ground army size, which should be substantially bigger than naval size.
In which if that is the case(which I doubt it is), then with the supporting forces within the Death Star, AND AND AND Chronosia's forces there, it would make it a good and normal fight.
Unified Sith
22-07-2005, 22:30
Propulsion
The region within approximately six diameters from a habitable world is known as "antigrav range". Within this zone the use of repulsorlift against the planet's gravitational field is a more efficient means of support or outward propulsion than the ion-drive sublight thrusters which are most useful in deep space. The Death Star I fired upon the planet Alderaan shortly after reaching this proximity. The fact that a control room technician announced the station's passage through this threshold in the novel of A New Hope implies that the Death Star was able to support itself using immense repulsor fields. At this distance from Alderaan, if the battle station supported itself entirely by repulsorlift, without engaging in any orbital motion, then its repulsors would need to oppose the local gravitational field strength of about 0.07 m / s². This characterises the lower limits of the accelerative ability of Death Star I's repulsors.
This observation accords well with the physics of Return of the Jedi, and might be able to help solve a minor mystery. As will be detailed below, the Death Star II required a significant repulsorlift force to sustain it in a low orbit about the sanctuary moon of Endor. Naturally, the second battle station could not have provided its own repulsor support during the early stages of construction, but it is comforting to know that repulsors of sufficient magnitude to lift a Death Star were within the reach of Imperial military engineering. at least during the earliest phases of the Endor construction, the ground installation which generated the security deflector shield would also have provided an upwards repulsorlift force.
Sublight drives
The sublight drives of the Death Stars were not conspicuous when the battle stations were viewed from afar. Various sources claim that the sublight engines were housed around the equatorial waistband, but the actual nozzles were too small to be seen from more than a few kilometres away. The Mandel blueprints indicate that there are 68 "antimatter engines", which presumably are the sublight drives.
The tiny size of the sublight drives in proportion to the whole vessel is an important hint to the nature of this technology: clearly the effectiveness of this propulsion mechanism does not increase greatly according to the aperture area.
Though not impotent, the sublight drives of the Death Star were not strong enough to move the battle station's immense bulk around the planet Yavin in less than half an hour. According to dimensions of the Yavin system calculable from data in Galaxy Guide 2: Yavin and Bespin, the average of the velocity of the Death Star in this trajectory must have been of the order of 400km/s. Of course a sustained acceleration would make any sublight velocity attainable after a sufficient time, but this was the maximum attainable within the constraints of time and the celestial mechanics of the Yavin system.
Rebel starfighters were capable of accelerating well enough to meet the Death Star within only a few minutes. Unsurprisingly, this is much better speed than the battle station could make.
The STAR WARS blueprints quote the maximum acceleration of the first Death Star as "0.0001 grav", which probably means a ten-thousandth of the surface gravity of a standard habitable planet. This would mean something like 0.001 m / s² in metric units. If the Death Star I emerged from hyperspace at rest with respect to Yavin then it would have taken over four and a half days to accelerate to its proper orbital velocity. Either the "0.0001 grav" is in error, has been misinterpreted by me or else vessels are able to emerge from hyperspace at whatever realspace velocity the pilots choose.
For the Death Star II to achieve mobility and firepower similar to its predecessor, its power systems must at least be scaled up in proportion to the overall volume of the station. However when a sphere is scaled up its surface area increases much more slowly than the total volume. Therefore the density of sublight thruster nozzles and heat dispersion ducts on the surface of the Death Star II must be much greater than on the original station. Otherwise these systems must be built for markedly greater efficiency.
limits of thrusters
Suppose that a Death Star has a total mass M (including its hypermatter fuel), and a radius R. Suppose that the battle station can use its equatorial thrusters to change its spin, such as Jerjerrod's attempt to rotate and target the Endor moon in the last moments of the Battle of Endor.
If a single thruster on the surface exerts a force f at an angle θ to the local vertical direction then the torque it exerts on the Death Star is τ = f R sin θ. If the maximum possible deflection off vertical is δ and if all thrusters fire at maximum thrust towards the same side then the total torque exerted on the Death Star is τ = F R sin δ, where is the total output of all N thrusters, F = N f. The resulting angular acceleration of the Death Star (rate of change of the spin) is given by α = τ / I , where I is the moment of inertia about the polar axis.
The moment of inertia is related to the mass and radius of the object, I ∝ M R². The constant of proportionality, which we may label as X=I/M R², depends on how centrally concentrated the density is. If essentially all of the mass were concentrated at the exact centre then X=0. If all the mass were concentrated on the spherical surface then X=2/3. If all the mass were concentrated around the equator then X=1. If the mass is evenly distributed throughout the spherical volume then X=2/5. The possible values of X are realistically limited to the range 0<X<1, unless the outer radius has been misidentified and the Death Star really has a substantial halo of invisible mass far outside its visible surface (implausible).
Combining the definitions above, X M R α = F sin δ. Call this the equation of maximum torque.
Now consider the way the Death Star can direct its equatorial thrusters for maximum acceleration in a particular direction, but no torque (alteration of spin). Individual thrusters fall into one of three areas of usefulness:
The Death Star's total thrust force is (F / π) (δ + cos δ) = M a. Here a is the resulting acceleration, and M is the total mass of the battle station, its fuel and contents. Call this the equation of maximum acceleration.
Finally, we can eliminate F from the equation for maximum acceleration and the equation for maximum torque. Thereby we find that the maximum spin acceleration (α*) and the maximum linear acceleration (a*) of the Death Star are related via the mass concentration parameter X and the maximum deflection of an individual thruster (δ).
a* / R α* = X (δ+cos δ)/(π sin δ).
Example: We have deduced that the maximum angular acceleration of the Death Star II was about 0.0003 rad/s, and the radius was at least 400km. If the internal mass distribution is almost even, and if the thrusters can deflect by 10° in either direction then this particular (incomplete) battle station was capable of accelerating laterally by about 100 m / s², i.e. about ten G. If instead the thrusters can deflect by 30° then the maximum linear acceleration is 40 m / s², just over four G. If the thrusters can deflect as far as the local horizon, up to 90°, then the maximum sublight acceleration of the battle station is 24 m / s², over two G. Thus a Death Star appears to be much more sluggish than the 3000G accelerations that a star destroyer achieves in a straight line chase (e.g. chasing down the Millennium Falcon on several occasions).
Caveat: This relationship between maximum torque and maximum thrust only applies if the equatorial sublight drives are the only devices able to spin a Death Star. We could consider more fanciful alternatives, such as counter-rotating masses of hypermatter in the core acting as invisible, internal flywheels.
Use of the equatorial thrusters of a Death Star. Here the globe is viewed from one of the poles, the equator is the black perimeter. The left panel shows how thrusters are used to accelerate the station's spin in a clockwise sense. The right illustration shows how the thrusters can manoeuver the battle station in some direction within the equatorial plane. Red or pink lines represent the directions of thrust streams from representative sublight drive units in the equator. The angle δ denotes the maximum off-vertical deflection possible for the particle stream from any sublight drive.
________________________________________
________________________________________
Hyperdrive
The hyperdrives were at least fast enough to allow Death Star I to arrive at Yavin from the Alderaan system within a day after the Millennium Falcon. (Lord Vader stated "This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Kenobi; it will soon see the end of the Rebellion." This clearly indicates that only a few hours passed between the escape of Princess Leia and the Death Star's arrival at Yavin.)
When the battle station arrived in the Yavin it was on a heading towards the planet but at right angles to the sunlight. Thus the hyperspace course did not pass any point closer to the sun, nor did it point towards the sun. Is this kind of tangential course typical or necessary for hyperspace jumps?
The Death Star arrives in the Yavin system and heads towards the planet. The battle station is heading at right angles to the direction of the sun. Its hyperspace course into the system probably went in the same direction.
________________________________________
________________________________________
Side-Effects
In terms of tides and celestial dynamics, the arrival of a Death Star is equivalent to the arrival of a new moon. The presence and motion of an object of this size has the potential to perturb the orbits of a planetary or satellite systems. The gravitational tug exerted on a nearby moon by the Death Star effects an exchange of orbital energy and angular momentum, and if an encounter is close enough and of the right duration then the size and eccentricity of the moon's orbit may be substantially permanently altered. A moon with a naturally short orbital period may suffer more severe perturbations, if it passes the Death Star multiple times. Less massive objects will tend to be more greatly affected. In extreme cases, a moon may be perturbed into collision with its planet, or unbound into interplanetary space.
In some planetary systems the orbits of the smallest moons and the planetary ring particles are a self-regulated by a delicate balance of orbital gravitational resonances. In such systems, the direct pertubation of one or more moons may eventually cause further perturbations, indirectly affecting other moons and planetary ring particles as well. The long-term dynamical effects may be chaotic.
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 16:02
Dude...
Your population has 500 million...
How could you possibly support thousands upon thousands of zerg ships... and protoss and Terran armadas... AND we havn't even gotten to the ground forces.
The norm for any ground force is 2 or 3% of the population.
You can't *possibly* support your current force,y our navies already outweigh these number facts, unless your zerg ships have only a few pilots and are fighter sized. This is including ground army size, which should be substantially bigger than naval size.
In which if that is the case(which I doubt it is), then with the supporting forces within the Death Star, AND AND AND Chronosia's forces there, it would make it a good and normal fight.
Zerg and Protoss ships are all one person units, only the Terran Battlecruiser and Gunship have more than one pilot in them(of the ones I use at least), that's how I can have so much, and I operate towards the high end of the spectrum, at 5% of my pop for military.
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 16:04
First of all me and Chronosia are allies, secondly Azaha found you because of the established Imperial sensor network, which was constructed according to this post. If you note it, there are sensors in position to detect all activity on the borders due to rebel operations. Secondly I had Azaha and Chron attack you, as we're allies. Only the appearance of your world ship has caused the Empire to take alot of notice.
Thread found here - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430073
Now on the Death Star.
The Death Star establishes a benchmark for Imperial technology and resources, and this benchmark is so high that some cultists will quite literally do or say anything to refute it. The typical response to any Death Star-related discussion is to claim that the Death Star was not as powerful as claimed, or that the Death Star is a freakish anomaly, millenia ahead of all other technology. Both claims are ludicrous to the point of being idiotic; the Death Star's power is irrefutably established in canon by the destruction of Alderaan, and it is idiotic to believe that the power generation or weapons technology of an ISD would be millenia behind a Death Star constructed by the same civilization.
The absolute lower limit for the gravitational binding energy of an Earth-like planet is 2.2E32 joules. There are many different ways to damage a planet, but you can quite literally slice, dice, melt, or vaporize a planet without destroying it. The only way to destroy it is to scatter its mass at incredible speed, so that gravitational forces cannot re-assemble it.
Of course, absolute limits are usually much lower than realistic figures, and this is no exception. If Alderaan exploded at mere escape velocity, it would have taken more than ten minutes to double in size. This obviously wasn't the case; the planet exploded very violently. Scaling of the Alderaan destruction scene in ANH leads to the conclusion that the approximate speed of the debris cloud's outermost region (not the meaningless pyrotechnic "ring" seen in the SE's) is roughly 1.8E7 m/s. Therefore, if we assume that the average velocity of the "cloud" was roughly 1/3 this amount, then a more accurate energy estimate is 1E38 joules.
It is often stated that the Death Star takes one full day to charge its main weapon for a planet-destroying blast, although this is actually over-conservative since the original Death Star destroyed Alderaan and was already charged and ready to destroy the rebel base on Yavin's moon later that day. Nevertheless, we can use the 1-day figure to determine that it must generate at least 1.2E33 watts on a steady-state basis to charge the weapon, plus whatever it needs to power the station's systems and propel the station through space. This amount of energy is enormously large- equivalent to 3 million times the power output of our sun! Neither nuclear fusion or matter/antimatter reaction would be sufficient to produce this much power, which is why the Death Star requires a hypermatter reactor, as mentioned in Star Wars Cross Sections. This hypermatter reactor is far more powerful than anything yet seen in the Galaxy belonging to another race, being capable of producing millions of times the energy of the sun.
Some cultists angrily dispute the enormous power estimates for the Death Star. Some of them claim that 1E38 joules is not required to raise the energy state of Alderaan by 1E38 joules (thus revealing their ignorance of the First Law of Thermodynamics), while others claim that the Death Star weapon may draw upon energy from another source such as the NDF harvested by phasers. However, this is simply not the case: according to SWICS, "the Death Star is built around a hypermatter reactor which can generate enough power to destroy an entire planet."- this is an explicit statement indicating that the necessary energy comes entirely from the Death Star's hypermatter reactor core, not from the target matter or any other tertiary source.
The Death Star's massive firepower reinforces the firepower estimates for other Imperial weapons, since they all derive from the same technological base (this is one of the primary reasons that cultists have desperately attempted to dispute Death Star firepower estimates). Superlasers are not new technology; Mon Mothma described the original Death Star's superlaser as "the most powerful superlaser ever constructed" rather than "a new weapon known as a superlaser" (ref. Soldier for the Empire). This indicates that superlasers have been constructed before, but on a smaller scale.
Thanks to SD.net for all my Imperial needs.
Oh, I didn't realise it was jut a death star, I can take that out, I though it was some sort of uber-battlestation of D00mZ0rz, my bad.
Zerg and Protoss ships are all one person units, only the Terran Battlecruiser and Gunship have more than one pilot in them(of the ones I use at least), that's how I can have so much, and I operate towards the high end of the spectrum, at 5% of my pop for military.
That my friend is god moding, don't care who ya are, having one pilot per uber carrier ship is simply, BS. I don't care about protoss lore and engineering and all their psi powers, no one man could operate an entire ship roughly the size of Road Island.
Same with Zerg. Yes my hive ships are actualyl living vessels and don't need pilots, but you see that's where I get realistic, they have no weapons or guns, and there are very few of them. You on the otherhand use this to the god moding extreme, by also equiping them with guns and all what not, and saying you are the uber haxxorz on space and the ground.
YOu need to drop your ego, you are a nation of 500mil, taking on a nation of 1.7billion. 5.2billion, and now another one of 3 billion. You aren't god's army, you aren't the elite of the elite of the elite, you are simply trying to act god.
The reason Sith has this deathstar, is because he actually spent time on Nation States building it, making treaties for it, and RPing out every aspect of it's creation. I highly doubt you RPed the construction and the materials needed for your "World ship", let alone your entire fleet.
Unified Sith
23-07-2005, 16:14
waits for post...
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 16:29
That my friend is god moding, don't care who ya are, having one pilot per uber carrier ship is simply, BS. I don't care about protoss lore and engineering and all their psi powers, no one man could operate an entire ship roughly the size of Road Island.
Same with Zerg. Yes my hive ships are actualyl living vessels and don't need pilots, but you see that's where I get realistic, they have no weapons or guns, and there are very few of them. You on the otherhand use this to the god moding extreme, by also equiping them with guns and all what not, and saying you are the uber haxxorz on space and the ground.
YOu need to drop your ego, you are a nation of 500mil, taking on a nation of 1.7billion. 5.2billion, and now another one of 3 billion. You aren't god's army, you aren't the elite of the elite of the elite, you are simply trying to act god.
The reason Sith has this deathstar, is because he actually spent time on Nation States building it, making treaties for it, and RPing out every aspect of it's creation. I highly doubt you RPed the construction and the materials needed for your "World ship", let alone your entire fleet.
Ok, see the RP here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=431832 for where I got the Worlship, my Fleets were all well established from other sources(I used the numbers from the handbook to extrapolate a ratio of civvies to combatants in SC, then made a ratio of ground to space units in thwe same manner), next, I am not without allies, some of whom should be arriving soon, making this fight much more even, and thirdly, in the SC movies you see that there is exactly one pilot for each carrier, same goes for scouts, corsairs, and arbiters(last is not shown in cutscenes, but it is reasonable to believe that if Tassadar can control an entire carrier on his own, then I think that a single Judicator can control a much smaller Arbiter.).
Adressing the zerg, they are all single units, they ghave a good deal of mental processing power they would use for their natural ranged weapons(those that have them at least), that is tied into the grafted weapons. For the melee figfhters I've genengineered greter mental capacity and tied that into the weapon, allowing them to use it like anything else they have.
Any other arguments, or are you just going to leave, like you obviously intended to do, making it 2:1 again?
Do I need to point out my sentence of, "I don't care who you are, that's god moding"
It still stands. These are just excuses to make yourself godly, every aspect of your uber god like army is elite and has "200:1 kill ratio", which is utterly bull.
As I said, you aren't god. I am not god, Chron is not god, US is not god, but, you outnumber you way too much, and we have reason for what we do and the technologies we have. You ignore US's deathstar, then you get ignored by me, and I take the planet wether you like it or not.
Unified Sith
23-07-2005, 16:46
Ok, see the RP here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=431832 for where I got the Worlship, my Fleets were all well established from other sources(I used the numbers from the handbook to extrapolate a ratio of civvies to combatants in SC, then made a ratio of ground to space units in thwe same manner), next, I am not without allies, some of whom should be arriving soon, making this fight much more even, and thirdly, in the SC movies you see that there is exactly one pilot for each carrier, same goes for scouts, corsairs, and arbiters(last is not shown in cutscenes, but it is reasonable to believe that if Tassadar can control an entire carrier on his own, then I think that a single Judicator can control a much smaller Arbiter.).
Adressing the zerg, they are all single units, they ghave a good deal of mental processing power they would use for their natural ranged weapons(those that have them at least), that is tied into the grafted weapons. For the melee figfhters I've genengineered greter mental capacity and tied that into the weapon, allowing them to use it like anything else they have.
Any other arguments, or are you just going to leave, like you obviously intended to do, making it 2:1 again?
Using the bull “I have allies” excuse would entitle me to call upon me allies entire star fleets, all 52 members and simply swarm you with about 50 thousand ships. All Imperial Star Destroyer size.
Now, MM you need to tone it down, seriously. The DS was not to be used, however you taking in your world ship is an ignore offence, but I’ve replied with said battlestation.
If your wish us to go under your principles, well we can, but be warned that each of your allies use the “I have allies excuse” to support such large numbers in their fleets…. A paradox for sure.
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 16:55
Do I need to point out my sentence of, "I don't care who you are, that's god moding"
It still stands. These are just excuses to make yourself godly, every aspect of your uber god like army is elite and has "200:1 kill ratio", which is utterly bull.
As I said, you aren't god. I am not god, Chron is not god, US is not god, but, you outnumber you way too much, and we have reason for what we do and the technologies we have. You ignore US's deathstar, then you get ignored by me, and I take the planet wether you like it or not.
Ok, Xenos are weak, period, they do not have the capability of penetrating much of any armor, much less Eternal Servaian, zerg are also weak, but they are fast, and they are well armored, I also base my army on the "ninja principle" to even the odds, a ratio between defenders and attackers, then I figure the power of my units from that, if there are more enemies, I play to the high side of the power range, less enemies I play to the low side, so it's a fair fight for all involved, I focus on balance, not just winning, if you want to ignore me, where Chron has expressed no issues with my RPing, fine, I was attacking, that means you never showed up and it's just me and Chron, possibly US, since I'm not gonna ignore something that's just a deathstar, I could care less, it'll be a match for my Worldship, nothing more.
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 16:58
Using the bull “I have allies” excuse would entitle me to call upon me allies entire star fleets, all 52 members and simply swarm you with about 50 thousand ships. All Imperial Star Destroyer size.
Now, MM you need to tone it down, seriously. The DS was not to be used, however you taking in your world ship is an ignore offence, but I’ve replied with said battlestation.
If your wish us to go under your principles, well we can, but be warned that each of your allies use the “I have allies excuse” to support such large numbers in their fleets…. A paradox for sure.
The worldship is an exceptable item, I got it from an RP I'm in, since I RPd acquisition of it, it should not be ignore worthy.
I was saying that I will have allies coming, not that that was why I had a large fleet, read my posts more carefully next time.
Unified Sith
23-07-2005, 17:00
The worldship is an exceptable item, I got it from an RP I'm in, since I RPd acquisition of it, it should not be ignore worthy.
I was saying that I will have allies coming, not that that was why I had a large fleet, read my posts more carefully next time.
I also roleplayed the construction of said Death Star. The FTLi is up so getting to the battle will take a few hours since its ecompassing the system. Now I'm waiting for you to respond to my post.
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 17:09
I also roleplayed the construction of said Death Star. The FTLi is up so getting to the battle will take a few hours since its ecompassing the system. Now I'm waiting for you to respond to my post.
OOC:
I'm working on it, but the Worldship is already well inside the system by now, not necessarily close enough to engage the deathstar, but inside the system nonetheless.
IC:
They detected the DS arrive, it was impossible to miss, the worldship would have to change its mission, no longer a transport, now it would be a massive combatant, the Death Star would face the Worldship, light and darkness would clash above a contested world, and soon the outcome would be known, light would triumph, and the hope represented by the Worldship would live on.
Ok, Xenos are weak, period, they do not have the capability of penetrating much of any armor, much less Eternal Servaian, zerg are also weak, but they are fast, and they are well armored, I also base my army on the "ninja principle" to even the odds, a ratio between defenders and attackers, then I figure the power of my units from that, if there are more enemies, I play to the high side of the power range, less enemies I play to the low side, so it's a fair fight for all involved, I focus on balance, not just winning, if you want to ignore me, where Chron has expressed no issues with my RPing, fine, I was attacking, that means you never showed up and it's just me and Chron, possibly US, since I'm not gonna ignore something that's just a deathstar, I could care less, it'll be a match for my Worldship, nothing more.
I explained my xenos, there was not a 200:1 ratio.
And I believe your words were... that you'd ignore Sith because of the deathstar, my ignore would have just been a rebuttle of you ignoring Sith. Zerg are not well armored, they have about as much armor as xenos would, hence why Zerg is a race that relies in masses rather than elite individual units. Xenos are also fast, and extremely powerful. Read the comics, and the books, the "tongues" can peirce throgh thick armor, they can propell themselves at high velocities towards their enemies, which is also enough to dent thick armor. They're clawds and teeth are extremely powerful. The only down side is that their exoskeleton has only slightly higher tencil strength than human skin, but they can survive extreme cold, vacuum(As seen in Aliens), aswell as extreme heat(As seen in Alien 3).
And Sith, am I still commanding your fighter wings?
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 17:18
I explained my xenos, there was not a 200:1 ratio.
And I believe your words were... that you'd ignore Sith because of the deathstar, my ignore would have just been a rebuttle of you ignoring Sith. Zerg are not well armored, they have about as much armor as xenos would, hence why Zerg is a race that relies in masses rather than elite individual units. Xenos are also fast, and extremely powerful. Read the comics, and the books, the "tongues" can peirce throgh thick armor, they can propell themselves at high velocities towards their enemies, which is also enough to dent thick armor. They're clawds and teeth are extremely powerful. The only down side is that their exoskeleton has only slightly higher tencil strength than human skin, but they can survive extreme cold, vacuum(As seen in Aliens), aswell as extreme heat(As seen in Alien 3).
And Sith, am I still commanding your fighter wings?
My Zerg are in less masses and more powerful as individuals, but I digress, read my post to US at the beginning of todays argument, then either ignore me, and shut up, or get back to IC, and shut up.
I don't take kindly to rudness, "Shut up". Sorry, you just keep inching closer and closer.
Mini Miehm
23-07-2005, 17:25
I don't take kindly to rudness, "Shut up". Sorry, you just keep inching closer and closer.
you're cluttering this thread with ooc, so either, quit the ooc, and ignore me, or quit the ooc, and start RPing, binarty solution set, get over it.
Unified Sith
23-07-2005, 17:30
thread Ignored For Flaming