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Hi there!

I had thought of that for awhile and now that my factbook is almost complete(not on-line yet) I feel its the time for this to proceed.

Lysian Flag is my version of the famous Red Flag exercise held in Nellis AFB three times a year in RL USA.

Like the RL exercise Lysian Flag will welcome any Air Force of Nation States on the gigantic Chicoutimi AB and a week or so of simulated dogfights, airstrikes and interdiction will take place in the huge airspace available at Chicoutimi AB.One side will be Blue Air Force and they will be defending while the other side will be Red Air Force, OPFOR, the attackers.

So feel free to participate I will post the guidelines shortly.If you're interested TG me or post in this thread.

Also forgot something important its modern tech only.

Phil

OOC: Count me in!

RP Guidelines:

no.1 Everything will be rp-ed so i want a cool clean rp so try to write a story instead of just posting numbers and actions.Dialogues, character background etc... will add depth to this.There will be rp-ed briefings and debriefings etc.

no.2 This is very important.No armed aircraft will be tolerated inside Lemieuxville airspace.Either bring dummy weapons or live-round simulators but no live weapons will be tolerated.If you do so most likely your aircraft will get intercepted and brought down either on a Lemieuxville base or down in flame in the forest.

no.3 Each aircraft participating must have stats for it.A detailed description of it is also needed.Any aids to pilot situationnal awareness must be described in detail.Stats needed are:

Radar computing power and operating modes(or other sensors)
Radar range against a 3m^2 target(or other sensors)
Your aircraft average radar cross section
Combat weight
Combat weight wing loading
Combat weight thrust to weight ratio
Combat weight maximum angle of attack
Combat weight instantaneous turn rate
Combat weight sustained turn rate
Combat weight roll rate
Combat weight combat radius
Combat weight speed without afterburner
Combat weight speed with afterburner
Combat weight linear acceleration
Combat weight rate of climb
Combat weight max altitude
Combat weight G-Limit

Now with that we should be able to easily determine the outcome of a dogfight without resorting to dice or wargame rules.

no.4 is quite similar to no.3 except that we need the stats of your weapons.

Max speed
Min range
Max range
Min altitude
Max altitude
Launch G-limit
Target G-Limit

So that's about it any other guidelines will be outlined in the rp-ed briefings.

If you have questions about those stats just ask me in this thread or TG me.

Phil

OOC: Most of number 3 is gonna be hard if not impossible for most people, they don't know, let alone have the data for those stats, they would almost require RL testing.

OOC: Count me in!

No problem what will you bring in?

OOC: Most of number 3 is gonna be hard if not impossible for most people, they don't know, let alone have the data for those stats, they would almost require RL testing.

Well this is basically to stop the über fighter of doom from mopping up the whole exercise.

However, most of those stats can be calculated easily.I know how to do it and I'm willing to do it.If people can just furnish me with detailed dimensions of their fictive fighter as well as the combat weight and thurst of the engine.

F-133 Valkyrie Air Superiority Fighter

Pics:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/X-02Stealth05B.bmp
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/x02a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/X-02Stealth03B.bmp

Many unique design features include new switchblade wings and variable trapezoidal "ruddervators" similar to those seen on the earlier YF-23 prototype that flatten out during supersonic cruise. Rudder action is not aerodynamically controlled on this plane, instead the 3D thrust vectoring nozzles on the new GE F-129 engines handle all of the planes yaw control. The use of canards, a Forward Swept Wing (FSW) design and thrust vectoring makes this plane highly maneuverable.

The Valkyrie's unique wing design owes itself for better low speed control at higher angles of attack and lower landing and takeoff speeds that are connecting with carriers. The fighter's switchblade wings also dual up as decreasing width for better storage. The aircraft uses high strength thermalplastics and Boron fiber on the joints and doors of the variable geometry wings, where much stress is induced at high speeds. These doors also double up as flaps during takeoffs and landings.

This design lends itself to many low-observables features such as masked air intakes, internal bays for weapons, a blended fuselage, and many other aspects that reduce its chance to show up on radar and infrared tracking devices, and the stealth concept of same angles. The use of internal bays is a stealth one too. It has one large payload bay down the fuselage and two smaller "pop-up" bays behind the air intakes. All-composites wing; high proportion of composites and welded aluminium-lithium alloy in remainder of airframe. Extensive use of radar-absorbent coatings, including Ironball and 'Fibersteel'.

The fighter uses the high thrust, variable bypass (like the earlier GE 120 engines) General Electric F-129 turbofans, with three-dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles for increased maneuverability. The F-129 engine uses a high temperature core and high-tech combustion parts, as well as a variable bypass design that allows it to act more like a turbofan at low speeds and more like a turbojet during supersonic cruise. Despite all of this, this engine has 40% less major parts and is easier to repair and maintain than the engines of the F-125. Supercruise has been reported at Mach 2.25 during trials, with a max speed of over Mach 3. The aircraft incorporates mission adaptive/aeroelastic wings, meaning instead of using 'flaps', the edges of the wings, ruddervators, and canards bend. The canards themselves can rotate.

The fighter uses SAN/APG-95 'Have Sight' radar, which is similar to the -91, but with improved tracking/identification capabilities, a forward looking solid state pulse doppler radar with a rear looking version with about 50% of the range. Both have NPI and LPI capabilities. Forward and rearward looking IR systems are used, along with a rear looking camera. The 'Have Ray' and 'Have Light' LIDAR systems are also mounted. The latest version of Pallas Athena is mounted to aid the Valkyrie's already tiny radar signature. The TSRS (Thermal Signature Reduction System) of Blurred Edges, Flickering skins, and a cooling sheath over the engines helps lower the IR signature. Incorporated into the forward and rearward LIDAR pods are higher powered lasers for 'blinding' IR guided weapons. The F-133 can be equipped with a form of 'active camouflage', usually changing the grey tones of the aircraft to fit best with the sky around it.

Almost all of the instruments availible to the pilot are digital MFD displays, with a few key instruments in the old format in the event that the multilayered systems fail. A fly-by-light fiberoptic system is used, again with multiple 'layers' for saftey. The helmet used in the new G-suit, like on all other fighters, can be linked to any of the MFD displays or sensors for a true 'heads up display'.

There are four internal bays, the forward two capable of holding up to four AAMs each, the rear two capable of holding up to two each. Usually, long range or heavy weapons are carried in the main bays, with the others carrying short range air to air missiles like the Python, AIM-9X, or AIM-121 Banshee. An M-75 20mm Hyveloc gatling gun is mounted under a small door in the aircraft for stealth. There are 6 additional wing pylons that can be used, usually with the EHSP pods to maintain stealth.

::Statistics::
Crew: 1
Wingspan (Unswept): 18.59m (61'0")
Wingspan (Swept): 11.58m (38'0")
Length: 21.92m (71'0")
Height: 4.38m (14'4")
Range: 2000 miles (Without Hafnium assistance)
G-Limit: 10+ (With new G-Suit)
Top Cruise Speed: Mach 2.25
Top Speed: Mach 3+ (Wings swept)
Armarment: M-75 20mm HYVELOC Gatling gun, 8 Fuselage internal hardpoints, 'pop up' rear fuselage bays can carry up to four lightweight missiles. There are 6 optional wing hardpoints.
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The other wil be up shortly.

F-133 Valkyrie Air Superiority Fighter

Pics:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/X-02Stealth05B.bmp
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/x02a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/X-02Stealth03B.bmp

Many unique design features include new switchblade wings and variable trapezoidal "ruddervators" similar to those seen on the earlier YF-23 prototype that flatten out during supersonic cruise. Rudder action is not aerodynamically controlled on this plane, instead the 3D thrust vectoring nozzles on the new GE F-129 engines handle all of the planes yaw control. The use of canards, a Forward Swept Wing (FSW) design and thrust vectoring makes this plane highly maneuverable.

The Valkyrie's unique wing design owes itself for better low speed control at higher angles of attack and lower landing and takeoff speeds that are connecting with carriers. The fighter's switchblade wings also dual up as decreasing width for better storage. The aircraft uses high strength thermalplastics and Boron fiber on the joints and doors of the variable geometry wings, where much stress is induced at high speeds. These doors also double up as flaps during takeoffs and landings.

This design lends itself to many low-observables features such as masked air intakes, internal bays for weapons, a blended fuselage, and many other aspects that reduce its chance to show up on radar and infrared tracking devices, and the stealth concept of same angles. The use of internal bays is a stealth one too. It has one large payload bay down the fuselage and two smaller "pop-up" bays behind the air intakes. All-composites wing; high proportion of composites and welded aluminium-lithium alloy in remainder of airframe. Extensive use of radar-absorbent coatings, including Ironball and 'Fibersteel'.

The fighter uses the high thrust, variable bypass (like the earlier GE 120 engines) General Electric F-129 turbofans, with three-dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles for increased maneuverability. The F-129 engine uses a high temperature core and high-tech combustion parts, as well as a variable bypass design that allows it to act more like a turbofan at low speeds and more like a turbojet during supersonic cruise. Despite all of this, this engine has 40% less major parts and is easier to repair and maintain than the engines of the F-125. Supercruise has been reported at Mach 2.25 during trials, with a max speed of over Mach 3. The aircraft incorporates mission adaptive/aeroelastic wings, meaning instead of using 'flaps', the edges of the wings, ruddervators, and canards bend. The canards themselves can rotate.

The fighter uses SAN/APG-95 'Have Sight' radar, which is similar to the -91, but with improved tracking/identification capabilities, a forward looking solid state pulse doppler radar with a rear looking version with about 50% of the range. Both have NPI and LPI capabilities. Forward and rearward looking IR systems are used, along with a rear looking camera. The 'Have Ray' and 'Have Light' LIDAR systems are also mounted. The latest version of Pallas Athena is mounted to aid the Valkyrie's already tiny radar signature. The TSRS (Thermal Signature Reduction System) of Blurred Edges, Flickering skins, and a cooling sheath over the engines helps lower the IR signature. Incorporated into the forward and rearward LIDAR pods are higher powered lasers for 'blinding' IR guided weapons. The F-133 can be equipped with a form of 'active camouflage', usually changing the grey tones of the aircraft to fit best with the sky around it.

Almost all of the instruments availible to the pilot are digital MFD displays, with a few key instruments in the old format in the event that the multilayered systems fail. A fly-by-light fiberoptic system is used, again with multiple 'layers' for saftey. The helmet used in the new G-suit, like on all other fighters, can be linked to any of the MFD displays or sensors for a true 'heads up display'.

There are four internal bays, the forward two capable of holding up to four AAMs each, the rear two capable of holding up to two each. Usually, long range or heavy weapons are carried in the main bays, with the others carrying short range air to air missiles like the Python, AIM-9X, or AIM-121 Banshee. An M-75 20mm Hyveloc gatling gun is mounted under a small door in the aircraft for stealth. There are 6 additional wing pylons that can be used, usually with the EHSP pods to maintain stealth.

::Statistics::
Crew: 1
Wingspan (Unswept): 18.59m (61'0")
Wingspan (Swept): 11.58m (38'0")
Length: 21.92m (71'0")
Height: 4.38m (14'4")
Range: 2000 miles (Without Hafnium assistance)
G-Limit: 10+ (With new G-Suit)
Top Cruise Speed: Mach 2.25
Top Speed: Mach 3+ (Wings swept)
Armarment: M-75 20mm HYVELOC Gatling gun, 8 Fuselage internal hardpoints, 'pop up' rear fuselage bays can carry up to four lightweight missiles. There are 6 optional wing hardpoints.
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The other wil be up shortly.

Like for that I lack the combat weight, the wing area as well as the max altitude at combat weight.And some information on the radar.

OOC: This ought to be interesting... sign me up! However, I'm working at the moment, so it will take a bit before I can unveil my fighter.

Like for that I lack the combat weight, the wing area as well as the max altitude at combat weight.And some information on the radar.
Ok, I got the"
Weight, empty: 16,550kg (36,500 lbs)
Weight, Normal TO: 24,940kg (55,000 lbs)
Weight, Max TO: 34,010kg (75,000 lbs)
Well, That's all I can give you cause that's all I was given, i think the guy said the max Altitude was something like a little over 80,000 feet, but the site where he got it from doesn't give wing area. And that's all he gave me for the radar. But it does say it's an improvemen on the APG-91...

*bump*