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BAR-34A1 (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/SSGUN2.png)
BAR-34A1 w/40mm Grenade Launcher and Scope (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/SSGUN3ex.png)
Description: The Silver Sky Military had longed looked for an Assualt Rifle to call it's own, first came the XM-8 7.62mm Assualt Rifle, it worked for a time, but with many nations developing body armor that was capable of stopping multiple 7.62mm hits to the chest it was decided that The Silver Sky Military needed a new Assualt rifle, thus the BAR-34 came into play, after many tests of the weapons the BAR-34 was declared the winner, capable of defeating most body armor at ranges of 300m and unarmored opponets at 600m. The only weakness of the weapon is the recoil (slightly stronger the the M-16)at full-auto accuracy is decreased. The rifle also features a small LCD screen that shows the direction of the magnetic north pole and how many rounds are left. The BAR-34 also includes a universal top rail for the mounting of any kind of scope (Regular, Infrared, Laser) and a bottom universal rail attachment for flashlights or 20mm/40mm Grenade launchers. Standard Silver Sky infantry carry a drum fed 4-shot 40mm grenade launcher

BAR-34A2: The BAR-34A2 is an improvement over the A1 in many ways, the use of case-less ammunition is great improvment over the cased round, it provides a faster burst speed and better accuracy in 3-round burst mode, and it allows 3 extra rounds to be carried in each magazine for the same size and weight. It also has a longer effective range due increased velocity. It will phase the BAR-34A1 out of service in the next few months.

BAR-34A3 Carbine: Basically a Spec-Ops version of the BAR-34A2, same muzzle velocity, range as the A1, though it weighs 1.5lbs lighter then the A1, has a shorter barrel, a 33 round magazine, and a ROF the same as the A2, it's also equipped with a silencer, it's the perfect weapon for your Special Forces or a PDW for your sailors cause of it's compactness and it's perfect blend of stopping power and range.

Type: Infantry Battle/Assualt Rifle
Name: Battle/Assualt Rifle Model 34A1(A2)(A3)
Fire Modes: Semi-Automatic, Full Automatic, and 3-shot Burst
Round: 8.65 x 65mm (.34 calibre) rounds; 8.65 x 65mm (.34 calibre) Caseless
Barrel Length: 711mm(A1,A2), 558mm(A3)
Overall Length: 914mm(A1,A2), 762mm(A3)
Magazine Capacity: 30 rounds(A1): 36 rounds (A2,A3)
Cyclic ROF: 800(A1), 1000(A2,A3) round/min(full-auto); 700(A1) 1800+(A2,A3) (Burst)
Muzzle Velocity: 3,054ft/s(A1,A3), 3,454ft/s(A2)
Range: 600m(A1,A3), 800m (A2); Maximum Range: 800m(A1,A3), 1000m(A2)
Mass w/o Magazine: 8 lbs(A1,A2), 6.5lbs(A3)
Mass w/ Magazine: 11.5 lbs(A1,A2), 10 lbs(A3)
Other: Includes attachment for any kind of scope (Regular, Infrared, Laser) and a bottom attachment for flashlights or 20mm/40mm Grenade launchers.
Cost: $1,000(A1,A2), $800(A3) per gun; $15(A1,A2,A3) per magazine

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SMG-10A1 (http://the-junkyard.net/images/weapons/halo2/smg_small.jpg)
Description: The Silver Sky had long been looking for a small SMG similar to the MP-5K to equip it's regular and special forces with. Thus the SMG-10 was developed, it fires 10.16mm ammo similar to the MP5K/10 and also features a collaspable stock, and the ability to mount any kind of scope. The only difference between the two is that the SMG weighs less and can also carry a 90 round drum magazine.

SMG-10A2: Basically the same as the A1 except for the introduction of caseless ammo, this allows for a fast ROF and a greater muzzle velocity for the same weight, it also decreases recoil in burst and full-auto mode.

Type: Infantry Sub-Machine Gun
Name: Infantry Sub-Machine Gun Model 10A1(A2)
Fire Modes: single, 3-round burst and full automatic
Round: 10.16 x 20mm(.40 cal) Cased(A1), 10.16 x 20mm(.40cal) Caseless(A2) round
Barrel Length: 254mm
Overall Length(With stock extended): 508mm; (635mm)
Magazine Capacity: 45 round Magazine or 90 round drum
Cyclic ROF: 800(A1) 950(A2) round/min(full-auto); 1200(A1) 2400(A2)(Burst)
Muzzle Velocity: 2,640 ft/s(A1), 2,840 ft/s(A2)
Range: 300m(A1), 400m(A2); Maximum Range: 700m(A1), 800m(A2)
Mass w/o Magazine: 3.5 lbs
Mass w/ Magazine or drum: 6.5 lbs; 9.5 lbs
Other: Capable of mounting any scope
Cost: $800 per gun; $15 per magazine; $45 per drum

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SAW-8 (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/MG-22.gif)
Description: For years many Silver Sky soldiers have complained about not having a Squad Automatic Weapon that has greater range and stoppping power then the SMG-10 and more ammo capacity the both the SMG-10 and the BAR-34, after taking many submissions and going threw 2 years of test and re-testing, the XSAW-8 was declared the winner, it had great stopping power, great range and accuracy.

The SAW-8 uses the same round as the BAR-34, and in fact it can take the BAR-34's 36 shot clip, not recomended though. The SAW-8 has double the ROF of the BAR-34, this allow it to provide cover fire much more effectivly. A longer, heavier barrel, which can be quick changed in 1 minute w/o tools, has been added and the action has benn reloacatec. Standard accesories include, movable handgrip, foldable bipod, TAC light, laser sight and aimpoint sight. The butt stock can be removed or replaced with a folding stock if needed.


Type: Squad Automatic Weapon
Name:Squad Automatic Weapon Model 8
Fire Modes: 5 round combat burst; full-auto
Round: 8.65 x 65mm (.34 calibre) rounds; 8.65 x 65mm (.34 calibre) caseless
Barrel Length: 812mm
Overall Length(With stock extended): 1066mm
Magazine Capacity: 100 and 200 round boxes(cased), 100 and 200 round drums (caseless)
Cyclic ROF: 2300+ RPM(caseless burst), 900 RPM(Cased Burst), 1200 RPM(Full-Auto): 1400RPM (Caseless Full-auto)
Muzzle Velocity: 3,340 ft/s(Cased); 3,840ft/s(Caseless)
Range: 800m(point target); 1200m (area-target)
Mass w/o Magazine: 12lbs
Mass w/ Magazine or drum: 16lbs(100rd box/case); 20lbs (200rd Case/box)
Other: Capable of mounting any scope, comes with movable handgrip, foldable bipod, TAC light, laser sight and aimpoint sight. The butt stock can be removed or replaced with a folding stock if needed.
Cost: $2,000 per gun; $50 per 100rd box/case; $100 per 200rd box

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SR-15 (http://the-junkyard.net/images/weapons/halo2/w_sniper.jpg)
Description:
"Happiness is dropping an enemy solider at 2500m" - Silver Sky Marine Sniper

The Silver Sky has been lacking behind severly in the sniper rifle field, a contract was handed out to Silver Sky National Arms the end result is the Anti-material/Sniper Rifle-15, it is capable of punching through any type of body armor at 1000m and most armor at 1500m, Silver Sky National Arms ended up with a rifle that excceded that, with the ability to defeat even APC armor at ranges of 1000m and any type of body armor at 2000m. This rifle is truely a marksman's dream come true, the only set-backs are that barrels must be replaced every 500 shots.

Warning: This rifle fires an anti-material round capable of going through several heavily armored enemies, be sure of what is on the other side of the target.

Type: Anti-Material/Personal Sniper Rifle
Name: Sniper Rifle Model 15
Fire Modes: Semi-Automatic
Round: 15.5 x 135mm Blended Metal Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot Rounds (T-APFSDS)
Barrel Length: 914mm
Overall Length: 1219mm
Magazine Capacity: 6 rounds
Cyclic ROF: 40-60 round/min (Depends on operators ability to change magazines)
Muzzle Velocity: 7,240 ft/s
Range: 2.5km; Maximum Range: 4km
Mass w/o Magazine: 14 lbs
Mass w/ Magazine: 20 lbs
Other: Includes a triple zoom (5x 10x 15x) regular/laser/infrared scope
Cost: $3,000 per gun; $10 per magazine

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AAT-102 (http://the-junkyard.net/images/weapons/halo2/w_rocketlauncher.jpg)
Description: The AAT-102 is a man-portable and shoulder-fired rocket launcher. It has two major components, the launcher and the magazine. The magazine (the expendable part of the system) contains two 102mm shaped-charge, high-explosive anti-tank Infrared guided rockets or two KE rockets. It is designed for fast, easy detachment from the launcher. The launcher contains the sighting and fire control systems. The launcher is special in that it locks the missile onto the target then launchers, the missiles is fire and forget allowing for fast repositioning and lowers the time in which the crew is exposed to fire

Type: Anti-Tank/Anti-Air Rocket Launcher
Name: Anti-Air-Tank Model 102
Fire Modes: Semi-Automatic
Round: 102mm HEAT Active RADAR Guided Rockets/or 102mm KE Active Infrared Guided Rockets (Dual-Stage Gel Rockets Engines)
Barrel Length: 965mm
Overall Length: 1168mm
Magazine Capacity: 2 rounds
Cyclic ROF: 20-30 round/min (Depends on operators ability to change magazines)
Speed: 750m/sec(HEAT); 850m/s (KE)
Attack Modes: Direct Attack(KE); Top attack(HEAT)
Range: (Against tanks) 5 miles (Against helicopters) 3 miles; Maximum Range: 5 miles
Mass w/o Magazine: 18 lbs
Mass w/ Magazine: 28 lbs
Other: Includes a single zoom (5x) and Infrared device for locking onto targets
RHA Penetration: KE 800mm+; HEAT 1100mm+
Cost: $4,000 per launcher; $1,500(HEAT), $1,000(KE) per magazine

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M12 Pistol (http://www.the-junkyard.net/images/halo/weapons/pistol_large.jpg)
Description:This pistol is a recoil-operated, magazine-fed handgun. It fires 12.7mm semi-armor piercing, high-explosive rounds. It can shoot semi-automatic and is very effective against both armored and un-armored enemies.

Type: Military/Civilian Pistol
Name: Model 12 Pistol
Fire Modes: Semi-Automatic
Round: 12.7 x 45mm Semi-Armor piercing, high-explosive (SAPHE); 12.7 x 45mm Blended Metal Armor Piercing round
Barrel Length: 177mm
Overall Length: 203mm
Magazine Capacity: 12 rounds
Cyclic ROF: 20-30 round/min (Depends on operators ability to change magazines)
Muzzle Velocity: 1,500ft/s
Range: 100m; 350m
Mass w/o Magazine: 4 lbs
Mass w/ Magazine: 6 lbs
Other: N/A
Cost: $400 per gun; $10 per magazine

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SG-8 (http://the-junkyard.net/images/halo/weapons/shotgun_large.jpg)
Description: The shotgun is a pump-action magazine-fed (dual tubular non-detachable type) weapon. It fires 8 gauge magnum (3.5") rounds. This weapon is very effective against targets at close range and may be used to engage several targets simultaneously at medium and long range.

With the new SRAG(Small Rocket Assisted Grenade), the Shotgun can double as an Anti-Vehicle weapon at long to short range, thus letting small Spec-Ops groups have the ability to defend themselves if discovered without carrying a bulky/heavy rocket launcher.

Type: Close Range Combat Shotgun
Name: Shot Gun Model 8
Fire Modes: Pump-Action, magazine feed
Round: 8 gauge magnum (.837") rounds (Can fire, regular rounds, APFSDS rounds for armor, and any type of .837" grenades.)
Barrel Length: 635mm
Overall Length: 889mm
Magazine Capacity: 12 rounds
Cyclic ROF: 80-100 round/min (Depends on operators ability to change magazines)
Muzzle Velocity: 2,000ft/s(Regular), 3,000ft/s(APFSDS), 2,500ft/s(Grenade), 2,750ft/s(SRAG)
Range: 25m(regular); 450m (APFSDS); 650m (Grenade), 850m (Small Rocket Assisted Grenade(SRAG))
Mass w/o Magazine: 6 lbs
Mass w/ Magazine: 12 lbs
Other: Equipped with flashlight and can be equipped with any type of scope.
Cost: $1,500 per gun; $20 per magazine(regular); $30 per magazine (APFSDS); $45 per magazine (grenade): $50 per magazine (SRAG)

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Small Rocket Assisted Grenade-20/40: The Small Rocket Assisted Grenade(SRAG) is truely a grenadiers dream come true, it is basically regular 20/40mm grenade (same explosive charge and launch charge) with a small solid fuel rocket that falls of after it uses it's fuel, this allows small infantry teams to engage APCs and IFVs at long range without lugging around a RPG or similar weapon, it's also great at taking out infantry from long range.

Type: Long Range Anti-Personal/APC Grenade
Name: Small Rocket Assisted Grenade Model 20/40 (SRAG-20/40)
Max Velocity: 900ft/s
Range: 600m
Mass: 1.5lbs
Cost: $300 per 100rd box(20mm) $450 per 100rd box(40mm)

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Consistany Buyers(More then 3 purchases): 2.5% Discount
Bulk Discount: 2.5% for purchases over $100,000,000 USD
(If you are both an ally and a member of one of the two above alliances you only get the Allies discount not both.)

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OOC: Comments are welcome, I want to get comments from other gun designers on NS to prefect them. More weapons to come later.

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Nice I am very interested in you products but we must ask if you will consider having your store join my Mini-Mall?http://www.attheforum.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=1&mforum=zactarnprime&sid=26afeb7ff4cf624ca4370e82a883a96b

I will, but probably not until later today, I'm leaving for a baseball game in less then 20 minutes.

Just a couple of things:

A few springs wont reduce recoil as much as you think. Your assualt rifle would be uncontrolable in full auto.

The Sniper rifle would rip the sniper arm off. Way too much recoil.

Armor penetration is way high for a manportible missile.

Just a couple of things:

A few springs wont reduce recoil as much as you think. Your assualt rifle would be uncontrolable in full auto.

The Sniper rifle would rip the sniper arm off. Way too much recoil.

Armor penetration is way high for a manportible missile.
It's not ment to be fired in full auto really, and it's more then a few springs, and the sniper rifle operates the same way, they both have shock isolation systems using Nano-springs, and I'll fix the rocket launchers after I get back from my baseball game.

Recoil on the sniper rifle would still break a snipers shoulder bone.

Another thing with the rocket launcher. A single rocket cannot be top-attack and direct attack all at once. You need seperate missiles for each. Most smaller, lower level launchers use direct attack; while most larger, battalion level or higher ones tend to be both top-attack and direct attack.

A question. How are you going to have a rocket launcher that has two 130mm rounds in this automatic "magazine" system, and still have a such low weight? The reloading mechanism alone should be large enough to render it severely impractical as a man-portable weapon.

Couple of questions about the sniper.

1 What is ETC and how does it work?

2 Anti material round? If it's what I think it is (antimatter) it would cause a massive burst of gamma radiation and heat energy as soon as it was manufactured. Even with a sufficient encasing system, I'm quite sure that any amount, even as insignificantly small as a fraction of a gram, could create an explosion that would make a nuclear bomb seem like a firecracker. Isn't anitmatter rediculusly expensive to produce in the small quantities it's done in today? It makes me believe that the rounds themselves would cost in the thousands.

3 With an antimatter round, it sounds more like a suicidal tactical ultra nuke. Just how much antimatter is there?

Ok,
Recoil on the sniper rifle would still break a snipers shoulder bone.

Another thing with the rocket launcher. A single rocket cannot be top-attack and direct attack all at once. You need seperate missiles for each. Most smaller, lower level launchers use direct attack; while most larger, battalion level or higher ones tend to be both top-attack and direct attack.
The sniper rifle is fixed, no more ETC, I made sperate KE(direct attack) and HEAT(top attack), is that better? And I changed the BAR's ammo to .40cal, is that better?
A question. How are you going to have a rocket launcher that has two 130mm rounds in this automatic "magazine" system, and still have a such low weight? The reloading mechanism alone should be large enough to render it severely impractical as a man-portable weapon.
I changed it back to 2 102mm rounds like I had it in the beginning.
Couple of questions about the sniper.

1 What is ETC and how does it work?

2 Anti material round? If it's what I think it is (antimatter) it would cause a massive burst of gamma radiation and heat energy as soon as it was manufactured. Even with a sufficient encasing system, I'm quite sure that any amount, even as insignificantly small as a fraction of a gram, could create an explosion that would make a nuclear bomb seem like a firecracker. Isn't anitmatter rediculusly expensive to produce in the small quantities it's done in today? It makes me believe that the rounds themselves would cost in the thousands.

3 With an antimatter round, it sounds more like a suicidal tactical ultra nuke. Just how much antimatter is there?
1: ETC works by having a drop of solid or liquid metal behind the round, then an very strong electric charge is sent through the metal striping it of electrons and heating it into plasma(the Electro-Thermal-Chemical part), the plasma expands rapidly and propell the round very fast(faster then gunpowder, the only setbacks is that it requires electricity has a large recoil and causes wear on the barrel and is heavier then conventional guns, you'll see them on pracitally every NS tank.

2&3: By anti-material I mean it can go through layers of metal(material) fairly easily for use against APC and IFV's, I didn't mean anti-matter, that would be future tech.

The .40 caliber x90mm round is impractical for any kind of assault or automatic rifle. The only caliber similar to that availible to rifles is the cancelled HK Marine anti-material sniper round, which is useless for an assault rifle. Springs won't help unless the whole barrel and firing assembly is on them, which would cause problems with accuracy and reliability issues...

The .40 caliber x90mm round is impractical for any kind of assault or automatic rifle. The only caliber similar to that availible to rifles is the cancelled HK Marine anti-material sniper round, which is useless for an assault rifle. Springs won't help unless the whole barrel and firing assembly is on them, which would cause problems with accuracy and reliability issues...
What do you suggest for a new rifle round with penetration great enough to pierce body armor?

EDIT: How would a 10x70mm round do?

I've been throwing around the idea of a 8.65 x 55mm .34 calibre round. This is heavier than the 7.62 so it has more recoil, but it has a lower rate of fire to compensate it. It should be able to take out most guys in body armor. even if it doesn't penetrait, the concussion from the force should hurt them badly.

Here is the thread if you want to check it out:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=432036&page=1&pp=15

I wouldn't go 10mm. I've heard of people who have fired 10mm pistols and they kick more than Desert Eagles. They might make a good LMG, but not an assault rifle.

hmm, what do you think of a 9.5 x 60mm, is that good? If not I think I'll go with yours if that alright.

EDIT: Yes but the MP5K/10 fires 10mm bullets with no problems, but I think your right about a smaller round being in order.

EDIT: BAR-40 changed to BAR-9 and changed to 9.5 x 60mm ammo.

The mp5 does use 9mm rounds yes, but the are very short rounds. 9 x 19mm.

You could try a 9.5 x 60mm round, but it would have a lot of kick.

Right now I'm developing another proof of concept weapon: a 10.16 x 80-90mm/ .40 cal medium machinegun to replace the MaDeuce (M2HB)

I think I'll go with your round thenif that's alright, and why develop you won medium machine gun when you can use the FN 15.5mm machine gun, I think it's the same weight(or less) as the M2HB, and it's the most powerful modern machine gun to date although it was cancelled due to running out of money on the company's part.

You could always adopt the 7.92mm German ammo.

No, still far too large... 9x90mm is really a light anti-material round (see HK WSG2000).

http://www.hkpro.com/wsgrounds.jpg

From left to right, a .50 cal, a 9x90mm, and a 7.62 NATO.

That 8.55mm round is probably the upper limit, though it will also limit ammo capacity due to size. But it's workable.

This is going to be a more anti-personel gun. I dont really need an anti-armor machinegun the way I've designed my forces.

So is it ok if I adopt your 8.65 x 55mm .34 calibre round?

That's very close to a full-power rifle cartridge, and with a light weapon like that you're going to have the same problem as M14 and might as well not ship with full-auto.

sure, go ahead. Be careful though, it has a lot of kickback. Thats why the BR I designed had such a low rate of full auto fire. It doesn't take much to knock someone down, so you dont need a high ROF anyway.

KK, thanks much.

You might want ot chage a few things:

"Round: 8.65 x 55mm (.34 calibre) Tungsten rounds"
By making the round tungsten you make the heavy round even heavier. You can do this, do recoil is even greater and rounds carried is even less.

"Magazine Capacity: 30 rounds"
Nothing really wrong, but it is a big mag for such a large round

"Barrel Length: 18 inches"
Muzzle Velocity: 4,240 ft/s"
You gun has an inch less barrel length than my experimental rifle, (it is a bullpup) yet it has 1,000 ft/s more than my rifle.

"Cyclic ROF: 500-800 round/min(full-auto), 2000 (Burst)"
Full-Auto wat to high. Accuract would be shot. Also the 2000 burst was left over from when it was caseless. I now have it at 700 r/m

OOC: Thanks for all the imput and feed back guys, you all really helped my out here, these are my first gun designs ever, thanks!

And stats are fixed.

A couple of things. You can increase armour penetration in four ways: increase the size of the shell, change its shape, change its composition, or increase its velocity. Generally, it's a bad idea to increase shell-size as that means a heavier load for your soldiers to carry. 7.62/7.92 is about the maximum size of battle rifle ammunition, taking recoil, sufficient load carriage, etc. (Soldiers are expected to carry at least 300 ready rounds of ammunition upon them, more if resupply is likely to be unpredictable.) Assault rifle ammunition is generally of smaller size, either smaller rounds or shorter, lower-powered cartridges (such as the Soviet 7.62x39mm round or the German 7.92mm kurz round; both consequently had less effective range). Also remember that battle rifles are not intended for sustained full automatic fire. Indeed, full automatic fire with a full-powered rifle round in a battle rifle is not advised if you actually plan on hitting something.

Now, reducing the weight of a weapon might initially seem like a wonderful idea, but it can have the effect of increasing the effective transferred recoil to the shooter (i.e., the rifle/firearm produces more "kick"). More kick means more time trying to reacquire a target, a further reason why many battle rifles were primarily semi- rather than full automatic weapons.

Another thing, the term is anti-matériel (for use against lightly armoured to unarmoured vehicles and positions, and may also be used against personnel), not anti-material. It's a minor error, but resolving it reduces confusion.

1800-2000 RPM is reasonable for a new assault rifle on burst, USSNA.

The AN-94 uses cased rounds and has an 1800 RPM 2 round burst.

2,000 rounds/min is not reasonable for a cased assault rifle. The reason that the G11 could get that high of a burst is that caseless ammo reduces the number of steps in the firing by 2. You simply cannot get those speeds out of a cased rifle.

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2,000 rounds/min is not reasonable for a cased assault rifle. The reason that the G11 could get that high of a burst is that caseless ammo reduces the number of steps in the firing by 2. You simply cannot get those speeds out of a cased rifle.

AN-94 Abakan. End of story.

The AN 94 shoots at that speed in 2 Round bursts, only.

Read the argument before you post.

"Cyclic ROF: 500-800 round/min(full-auto), 2000 (Burst)"

"1800-2000 RPM is reasonable for a new assault rifle on burst, USSNA."

I'm talking about bursts.

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Edited stats of many weapons, added the BAR-34A2 and A3 and the SMG-10A2.

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Added a squad automatic weapon, comments?

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Getting a little frustrated Silver...? ;)

12mm round on the pistol!? other than that it looks good.

12mm round on the pistol!? other than that it looks good.
OOC: It's only a 12.7 x 40mm round, it has quite a bit of recoil, but it can drop an armored opponent at 50m with a shot to the chest armor.

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Edited the stats of many weapons to make then realistic, lowered the price of the AAT-102, gave the M12 Pistol a realistic NS muzzle velocity.

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Message to the Nation of Silver Sky
Your weapons interest us greatly and we think them to be the peak of military gun technology. We would love to have productions rights at at any cost for our own soldiers. Please respond quickly if you refuse, we will simply place a large order.

Signed,
High Commander Valkan

To: High Commander Valkan
Eternus Lumen
From: Steven Miller
CEO of Silver Sky National Arms

After having discussed this with our board of directors, we have decided that we will sell production rights, as of now we do not have a set price for the production rights of each weapon and the production rights are limited, that means you can only build them for yourselves and cannot resell them to anyone.

Please select products and we will try to come up with a price that would benifit us both.

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Message to Silvery Sky
We request the production rights to the following items,
BAR-34A2:
BAR-34A3 Carbine
AAT-102
SG-8

We hope you can supply them.
Signed,
General Valkan

To: General Valkan
Eternus Lumen
From: Steven Miller
CEO of Silver Sky National Arms
RE: Order Confirmation

Yes we can supply the production rights to those weapons, the prices are listed below:
BAR-34A2: $100,000,000 USD
[B]BAR-34A3 Carbine: $80,000,000 USD
[B]AAT-102: $400,000,000 USD
[B]SG-8: $15,000,000 USD [Based of price for 10,000 guns]

(OOC: I can't really make an IC post at this time, can we just assume it is confirmed?)

OOC: Yeah, sure.

and w00t! My first sale on NS, my third overall!

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OOC: Get a new picture for your "SAW-8", I made the one you have up.
Otherwise you seem to have put together an impressive arsenal

OOC: Get a new picture for your "SAW-8", I made the one you have up.
Otherwise you seem to have put together an impressive arsenal
OOC: I found it on google image search, didn't bother to check the address, sorry, I'll replace the pic.(Though I'd like to use it if that's ok, it's an awesome pic.)

And thanks!

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*Silver Sky National Arms News*

Silver Sky National Arms has been declared the winner of an infantry arms contract with Vietnamexico, our CEO and theor newly appointed Minister of Defence have entered talks.

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*Silver Sky National Arms News*

Silver Sky National Arms has been declared the winner of an infantry arms contract with Vietnamexico, our CEO and theor newly appointed Minister of Defence have entered talks.

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Check UMCI forums :)

Check UMCI forums :)
I did, and posted too. Yay for me!!! :D

Osoantipatico will buy 1000 SR-15 sniper rifles, 1 magizine a piece, for a total of 3 million 10 thousand dollars.
You have the best infantry weapons available, i will shop here for infintary weapons.

We are glad that Osoantipatico thinks our products are the greatest, and we are glad you will shop here for infantry weapons.

The requested weapons will be shipped within 1 month(2 real life hours).

Thank you for the praise and business.

-Steven Miller
Silver Sky National Arms

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check UMCI forum once more.

check UMCI forum once more.
OOC: Already did, I'm clueless on stock prices. :D

I would like 5000 SR-15 sniper rifles :sniper: , and one magizine for each.
The cost is $15,050,000

"Warning: This rifle fires an anti-material round capable of going through several heavily armored enemies, be sure of what is on the other side of the target."
You totally copied that from Halo.

I would like 5000 SR-15 sniper rifles :sniper: , and one magizine for each.
The cost is $15,050,000

"Warning: This rifle fires an anti-material round capable of going through several heavily armored enemies, be sure of what is on the other side of the target."
You totally copied that from Halo.
IC: Your order has been confirmed.

OOC: So? It's true. :p

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Osoantipatico would like to purchase 2000 SAW-8s and 8000 200-round boxes.
SAWS- $400,000
Ammo- $80,000

Confirmed! Please come again.

OOC: Damn, to tired for a longer post.

OOC: BAR-34A1 has new pics thanks to Soviet Bloc and his line art skills.

Vietnamexico will be purchasing the following items with the discounts that the Silver Sky and Vietnamexico had previously agreed upon:

5000 Used BAR34-A1.........$2,000,000

1000 SMG10-A1................$560,000

Production rights for SAW-8

Production Rights to M12 Pistol

80 Sniper Rifle Model 15...$168,000

Subtotal*: 2,728,000


*Price without the Production Rights Added

OOC: I got to go to a soccer game, I'll reply later.

Vietnamexico will be purchasing the following items with the discounts that the Silver Sky and Vietnamexico had previously agreed upon:

5000 Used BAR34-A1.........$2,000,000

1000 SMG10-A1................$560,000

Production rights for SAW-8

Production Rights to M12 Pistol

80 Sniper Rifle Model 15...$168,000

Subtotal*: 2,728,000

*Price without the Production Rights Added
Your order has been confirmed, production rights are $80,000,000 USD for the SAW-8, and $16,000,000 USD for the M12 Pistol

Total Price: $98,728,000 USD

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For a total of $905 million, the Divine Empire of Kreynoria seeks to purchase the following:

SR-15 Sniper Rifle × 200,000 ($600 million)

AAT-102 AA/AT Rocket Launcher × 20,000 ($80 million)

SG-8 Shotgun × 150,000 ($225 million)


Thank you, money will be wired upon confirmation

We thank you for your purchase, production will begin shortly and it will take 2-3 months for the weapons to be delivered, thank you for your purchase.

Please come again. :)