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VA-3 'Lucifer' High Speed Bomber

Intelligent Neighbors
14-07-2005, 15:01
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The VA-3 'Lucifer' aircraft is part of the Delta Project and is a joint development between Azazia and Venom Defence, bu the project has proceeded slowly due to the large number of systems to be designed. The VA-3 was designed to be a fast and stealthy bomber, capable of penetrating air defenses and destroying enemy targets with impunity before getting out alive. The Azazian team worked mainly on the engine and munitions.

Design

The VA-3 construction is 37% titanium, 23% composite, 15% aluminium, 4%DAiRT armour and 1% thermoplastic by weight. Titanium is used for its high strength-to-weight ratio in critical stress areas, including some of the bulkheads, and also for its heat-resistant qualities in the hot sections of the aircraft. Carbon fibre composites have been used for the fuselage frame, the doors, intermediate spars on the wings, and for the honeycomb sandwich construction skin panels.

-Reverse Triad (DAiRT) Armour
The first layer is hardened aluminium, followed by a carbon-silicon nano-mesh that will seriously slow down any fragments that penetrate the first two layers, preventing them from doing damage to internal mechanics. The third layer is a titanium-aluminium alloy to provide torsional stiffness and some protection from bullets. The last is a self-healing layer, composed of a glue-like substance between two thin layers. When the substance comes into contact with air it begins to congeal and harden, forming a cover over the hole. This only works on smaller holes - missile damage is impossible to heal.

Systems

The VA-3, like the VA-4, is loaded with sensors that allow it to do its job, and do it well. At the core of the system is a Black Steel computer module, controlling all the complicated computations of the plane and also providing a link back to the BS mainframe. The BS link gives the VA-3 an edge when at its home ground, or in the area of allied units, allowing it to work out the best route to the target.
//Only RWC nations can purchase the BS system, so if not a member a standardised system will be fitted, but will not have all the features or be as fast. You can also choose to have your own system fitted. The Azazian version has an Azazian control system.//

The radar system on this plane is unique. It is a high performance system optimised for flying at very low altitudes, while having a large enough range to compete well at high altitudes. The radar is capable of tracking up to 150 targets simultaneously; making sure it never overwhelmed. An automatic targeting option is built into the plane, allowing the pilot to concentrate on flying the plane while the computer takes out the targets autonomously. Inversely, the highly advanced auto piloting system can leave the pilot free to take on threats.

An advanced countermeasures suite allows the plane to use a variety of different countermeasures including chaff and radar disruption.

All of these systems are protected by an advanced EMP defeating system. Upon firing of a missile at the plane, or a nearby plane, the VA-3 closes access to its vulnerable systems, relying on information collected in advance to pilot the plane this information can be used to fire a missile at threats, as well as take evasive action. After a period of 10 seconds in this mode, the plane will reactivate and resume normal actions.

Radar jamming systems, as well as rudimentary active camouflage on the surface of the plane give the plane an extra chance of remaining undetected. Heat dispersion plates dissapate most of the excess heat.

Weapons

One 28mm cannon is mounted in each wing of the craft, as last resort weapons. The VA-3 also has 12 hardpoints that can carry a weight of 12,000kg stealthily and 16,000kg when stealth is not needed. The plane is capable of carrying a bunker buster bomb internally, as well as four Peregrine Missiles (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?showtopic=154) stealthily. This plane can carry almost all missiles and bombs available, and several new munitions have been designed for use:

Peregrine Missile
The Peregrine is a hypersonic weapon that can penetrate enemy defences and strike the target in a short period of time. It is a low-cost missile with reduced radar cross-section capable of being surface, air or subsurface fired. The system can hit underground targets to a depth of 12 meters after flying at beyond Mach 4. The wingless missile changes direction in flight by using a bending body joint. The Peregrine comprises a fin-less, bending body airframe, fixed geometry annular inlet, and a slip-out booster/ramjet engine. It can deliver a 600-pound payload to a range exceeding 700 nautical miles at a speed of Mach 4.6.

Hex-X
The newest version of the Hex series of anti-shipping missile, the Hex-X has three warheads, the first is on the head of the missile and is fired by a small booster into the ship, blowing a small hole with it's HEAT warhead. The following missile then enters the hole, where the second warhead, an EMP detonates. This knocks out electronics in an area of about 30m, and sets off the third warhead. The final warhead is a large HE warhead, designed to cause maximum damage inside the ship.

The Hex-X has an improved electronics system compared to the Hex 3, and features an EMP defeating/hardcasing system. The system is run using Black Steel technology and so is only availably to RWC nations.

Storm
Storm is a top attack system for use against armoured targets. It consists of a large laser guided bomb containing six mini-missiles. When above the target, the mini-missiles are ejected, homing in on nearby armoured targets designated by the pilot or a spotter. They each contain a HEAT warhead, and multiple missiles may be dispatched to the same target.

Engine

The VA-3 is powered by two pulse-detonation/turbo-fan hybrid engines developed by Azazia. The engines provide 130kN thrust. The engines' double pulse ability boosts the output to 250kN. Thrust vectoring is controlled by the computer module present on board. The double pulse negates the vibration of the pulses to such a degree that it is possible to use the engines for a sustained period of time. The loud noise when 'on pulse' renders the pulse impractical when trying to be stealthy.

Stats:

Crew: 1

Dimensions
Length: 22.1m
Height: 6.42m
Wingspan: 14.2m

Weight
Maximum take-off weight: 44,600 kg
Normal take-off weight: 38,000 kg
Empty Weight: 17,000 kg

Power Plant
Engines: 2x pulse-detonation/turbo-fan hybrid
Maximum Thrust (each): 130kN (Double Pulse: 250kN)

Flight data
Max Speed (high altitude): Mach 3.4
Cruise Speed: Mach 1.3
Service Ceiling: 19,000m
Maximum operating range at cruise height: 4,200km

Armament
12 Hardpoints (two in internal weapons bay, four hardpoints beneath each wing, 2 hardpoints on fuselage).
2 30mm cannon.

Cost
$89,000,000, but only for sale subject to investigation of nation. Apply for purchases and we will get back to you.
Space Union
14-07-2005, 15:27
Good job :) But this is more a medium-bomber or fighter-bomber than a real bomber. Nonetheless, it is a sound design.
Intelligent Neighbors
14-07-2005, 15:28
Yes, it is a medium bomber. But don't forget that it can carry a bunker buster plus more internally. Thanks!
Neuvo Rica
14-07-2005, 16:35
Communication:
From: Marshal Jiangwei, Head of all Neuvo Rican military procurement
To: Intelligent Neighbours

Neuvo Rica would like to order 300 of these impressive aircraft. Surely Nuevo Rica would pass any investigation?? We believe the price should come to 26,700,000,000. Many thanks in advance on selling us this aircraft,

Neuvo Rica.
Anagonia
14-07-2005, 16:53
The Galati-...um....Anagonia would be interested in this design. It has been some time since we have conv-....um....made our own. We would be interested in purchasing the copyright laws of this device for $20 Billion USD. Of course, we ask that if this is acceptable that we are able to obtain your personal copyright, example:

©so-and-so nation

OOC: I store all purchases on my proboards board, it is accesable at:
http://hawk.proboards1.com
Intelligent Neighbors
14-07-2005, 22:17
Neuvo Rica, the government has cleared your request due to the state of alliance between our nations, it has also decreed that you should be given a discount, to encourage further purchases from Venom Defense (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php). The total cost for your order is $22,000,000,000, taking into account the discount and the replacement of the Black Steel systems with universal ones. Enjoy your bombers, and don't forget to purchase those munitions from VD!

Anagonia, while you seem to be a respectable nation, your request for the copyright designs cannot be accepted. This is for a number of reasons:

1) $20 billion dollars is nowhere near enough, considering the cost of just 300 planes is $26 billion.
2) The design is a joint production between Azazia and Venom Defense (IN), and so both parties must agree to a release of copyright.
3) Your request was incomplete, please say what you meant to say first, do not try to hide anything.
4) I am loath to sell any copyrights to nations other than close allies, especially such a magnificent design.
Anagonia
15-07-2005, 05:05
Neuvo Rica, the government has cleared your request due to the state of alliance between our nations, it has also decreed that you should be given a discount, to encourage further purchases from Venom Defense (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php). The total cost for your order is $22,000,000,000, taking into account the discount and the replacement of the Black Steel systems with universal ones. Enjoy your bombers, and don't forget to purchase those munitions from VD!

Anagonia, while you seem to be a respectable nation, your request for the copyright designs cannot be accepted. This is for a number of reasons:

1) $20 billion dollars is nowhere near enough, considering the cost of just 300 planes is $26 billion.
2) The design is a joint production between Azazia and Venom Defense (IN), and so both parties must agree to a release of copyright.
3) Your request was incomplete, please say what you meant to say first, do not try to hide anything.
4) I am loath to sell any copyrights to nations other than close allies, especially such a magnificent design.

Understandable

Perhaps in the future there could be a joint project between our two Nations. With such a excellent design, I would be pleased and honored to be able to do a project with you.

Forgive my secretness, I did not mean to show anything suspicious. I shall consider this positive critisism so I may be able to work on it in the future.
Neuvo Rica
15-07-2005, 11:19
Many thanks for selling these weapons to Neuvo Rica. We will be sure to visit Venom defense in the near future. We thank you again for the discount. When can we expect this order to be complete?
Intelligent Neighbors
15-07-2005, 14:46
OOC: Anagonia: Don't worry about it, my last post was IC, from the head of VD. He is a bit of a bastard. About the project, just TG me or PM me at my store (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?).

Also, where is all the criticism of this design? Where is Praetonia?

IC:
Neuvo Rica: Due to the fact that large numbers of this plane have been requested by the IN and Azazian military, there is an extensive production capability and your order of 300 planes should be completed by Sunday.
Neuvo Rica
15-07-2005, 15:04
Many thanks.
Intelligent Neighbors
15-07-2005, 16:15
No problem.
The Eastern Wastes
15-07-2005, 16:21
I would wish to purchase a few of these units. However, is price negotiable, and if so, how low are you willing to go?
Space Union
15-07-2005, 16:47
I would suggest getting rid of the 2nd 30mm cannon. You only need one since your going to have escorts, and another one would add weight and take up space that could be used for extra payload. Also I would up the stealth payload to over 12,000 kgs. My fighter carries more than 7,000 kgs of bombs. Other than that, solid design. Also up your normal take-off weight to around 40,000 kgs. Right now you have no space to put in fuel and it won't be able to take off. I always times my empty weight by 2.3 minimum to get the full-weight. I usually go to 2.5 or over. Just a suggestion.
Anagonia
15-07-2005, 20:00
OOC: Anagonia: Don't worry about it, my last post was IC, from the head of VD. He is a bit of a bastard. About the project, just TG me or PM me at my store (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?).

OOC: Well, sorry, and I sure will! I'm hoping to have some help-...well, I'll TG you on your board.
Intelligent Neighbors
17-07-2005, 12:36
Space Union: It is unlikely that this plane will be given escorts when over enemy territory, especially as VD are still working on a fighter varient that can keep pace with this. The two cannons provide a degree of protection.
Aerospace Forces
17-07-2005, 13:32
Our nation would like to order 200 of these aircraft for $17.8 billion. Money will be wired upon confirmation of order.
Space Union
17-07-2005, 14:44
Space Union: It is unlikely that this plane will be given escorts when over enemy territory, especially as VD are still working on a fighter varient that can keep pace with this. The two cannons provide a degree of protection.

Fine, but you should do the changes that I suggested on the weight ;) Hope that helps :)
Doomingsland
17-07-2005, 15:41
OOC:Very nice. Though I may make a few modifications to make this thing even more deadly...

IC:

Encrypted Imperial Communique

We would be interested in aquiring a production liscense for this fine aircraft.
Eternus Lumen
17-07-2005, 16:15
Message to The Nation of Intelligent Neighbors,
We at Eternus Lumen High Command would like to purchase a hundred of these fine aircraft at a total cost of 8.9 Billion USDs. We would supply any information for a background check if you so require and we hope these may be the beginning of a relationship between our two nations.
Signed,
King Adrian
Intelligent Neighbors
18-07-2005, 00:54
The Eastern Wastes: Sorry, the price is non negotiable for you as you are not an ally of IN.

Space Union: Yeah, I had forgotten about that. I changed the weight, thanks. You are officially entitled to a free chocolate bar, for services to VD.

Aerospace Forces: Confirmed, the planes will be shipped by thursday.

Eternus Lumen: Confirmed, you will also recieve the planes on thursday. Your background check proved very satisfactory and in response to a comment on another thread, Venom Defense (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php) would be more than happy to supply you with aircraft and ground units, if you sign a trade agreement then the prices will be reduced.

Doomingsland: Due to your prominent status as an ally of Intelligent Neighbors, it has been decided that you will be granted permission by VD to purchase the production rights, depending on a couple of terms:
1) Detail these modification you are planning, so that VD can integrate them into its planes that it is providing to the IN Military (ie I will not sell them).
2) Azazia agrees (most likely he will)
3) A fee of $60 Billion be paid.
Doomingsland
18-07-2005, 04:09
Encrypted Response

The payment has been wired in advance. You shall recieve details of said modification via telegram.
Intelligent Neighbors
18-07-2005, 20:55
After recieving the message and money from Doomingsland, we are ready exchange the rights, pending confirmation from Azazia.
Layarteb
18-07-2005, 21:04
The Layartebian Defense Corporation would like to purchase 6 examples for research and development purposes. We have authorized $534M to purchase said models.

OOC: What real-life model is this based on? It looks a lot like an F-22 with a shortened fuselage and elongated wings?
Intelligent Neighbors
18-07-2005, 21:54
OOC: Y'know, I am really honoured to have been chosen as a supplier of this aircraft to such great nations such as Doom and Layarteb. Also, so many influential nations have helped me slightly modify/debug the final product on this (Praetonia and Space Union), thanks to all. I really must give some credit to Azazia though, he helped this thing get started (although he was too busy with RL stuff to help finish it!).

Layarteb, this plane has no real RL equivalent, but the images are taken from something. Will TG you with the info.

IC: As an honourable ally, and supplier of the Intelligent Neighbors Fleet, Layarteb has been cleared for the purchase of said items. If you are unsatisfied with the aircraft, VD will refund you 80% of the price paid, as long as the aircraft are still air-worthy.
Omz222
18-07-2005, 22:05
OOC: I think I saw the image from somewhere before... Anyways, definately a fine aircraft, and I would probably purchase it anyways if relations between IN and the Omzian Republic is well-established.
Layarteb
18-07-2005, 22:59
OOC: Y'know, I am really honoured to have been chosen as a supplier of this aircraft to such great nations such as Doom and Layarteb. Also, so many influential nations have helped me slightly modify/debug the final product on this (Praetonia and Space Union), thanks to all. I really must give some credit to Azazia though, he helped this thing get started (although he was too busy with RL stuff to help finish it!).

Layarteb, this plane has no real RL equivalent, but the images are taken from something. Will TG you with the info.

IC: As an honourable ally, and supplier of the Intelligent Neighbors Fleet, Layarteb has been cleared for the purchase of said items. If you are unsatisfied with the aircraft, VD will refund you 80% of the price paid, as long as the aircraft are still air-worthy.

Most excellent. We doubt they will need returning. We will be testing them out and evaluating them for possible future developments. Thank you.
Intelligent Neighbors
19-07-2005, 11:42
Well, Omz222, I don't think my nation has any actual ties with yours, but you have been cleared for export based on the fact that your name is well known, and you have not done anything to prevent the sale to you. Before I do though, pleases edit the name of the plane the pictures are taken from in your post above, as I do not want people to say this plane is a rip-off of that plane. As I explained to Layarteb, the VA-3 is completely different, and was designed before the image was chosen (indeed, Azazia wanted a different image). Thanks.

How many planes would you like?

Layarteb, we hope that you keep us informed on how you find the planes.

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Note to all purchasers: Unless you are RWC, the plane will not come with any RWC tech (Black Steel, Hex-X). Instead, advanced avionics systems from IN or your own systems will be installed.
Omz222
19-07-2005, 15:26
OOC: OK, and sorry 'bout that. /OOC

As the Omzian Air Force has expressed a great interest in the aircraft, we cannot help but to constantly remind ourselves of the potential of such fine aircraft in many different roles. Thus, a decision has been reached, after much evaluation, to seek a possibility to purchase a number of these aircraft for service within the Omzian Air Force for a variety of roles. Though we share no such everlasting bonds with our counterparts at IN and Azazia, we would nevertheless like to inquire if it is possible to purchase a total of 1452 of the VA-3 aircraft (including 300 attrition replacements), for a total of $129.228 billion dollars. On top of that, we would also like to inquire if it is possible to outfit the aircraft with our own avionics systems.
Intelligent Neighbors
20-07-2005, 10:42
OOC: Thanks.

IC: Omz222, after researching your nations history and recent political status, it has been decided to permit the sale of said aircraft to you. They will take some time to complete however, and so they should all have arrived at the location of your choice on Sunday. Your requirement that you wish to have your own avionics is acceptable, and we will install your system within the planes, if you supply the main system. This will reduce the cost per plane to $85 million. This totals to $123.420 billion, and including a 5% discount for the large order the total is: $117.249 billion.

As a token of our gratitude you will also recieve a free shipment of 5 Peregrine missiles, for your private use. We hope to see you again at VD soon!
Guffingford
20-07-2005, 11:27
OOC: This only proves what I already knew about your insane designing skills IN. Excellent work, the fact Omz222 buys this, having somewhat the most potent airforce in II, only proves what I just said.

IC:
Official Statement from the Ministry of Defence

'Guffingford is more than thrilled to see the nation of Intelligent Neighbors producing such a magnificent design. A weapon of war with which you dominate the skies. We would like to place an order for these fortresses, no less than four hundred delivered as soon as possible. Location and exact date will follow, and we are willing to pay you in pure gold. When updates or hybrids of this aircraft are available, please let us know.

Thank you for your attention, and good luck designing more of these. We will get in touch with you in the near future for a joint naval project.'

Best regards, Leonard Ynsson, Minister of Defence.
Intelligent Neighbors
20-07-2005, 12:44
Ah! These words of praise from our esteemable ally are much appreciated. We will of course be willing to validate your order, but with regards to a better varient, I will inform you when Doomingsland has written up his modification to it. I have looked over his proposed plan and we have worked out how to overcome the initial flaws. This new version may be for sale or may be available as an upgrade package. We will send the planes via transport ship to wherever you wish, and would be most pleased to accept the payment in gold to the value of $35,600 million.

OOC: Thanks Guffingford, I had the crazy ideas, and Azazia toned them down to make them believable. The naval project would be good, as I need a Carrier or Battleship (or both combined???).
Omz222
20-07-2005, 16:08
Although we are surprised by this turn of events, this is most acceptable and we welcome such acceptance with great gratitude from the hearts of the Omzian government and the Omzian Air Force. It has been determined, if possible, we will outfit our avionic suites once the airframes are delivered to our nation, and we will accept hte reduction in price and will take it into account. In regards to the shipment of missiles, we are indeed thankful for this offer, and the missiles will be placed in a special spot in the Osaria Armed Forces Museum.

We will welcome the delivery of the aircraft with great enthusiasm.

Regards,
FltAdm (Ret.) J. Logan,
Ministry of National Defence
Intelligent Neighbors
20-07-2005, 16:38
OOC: The missiles will be de-armed I hope!

IC: Our thanks again, the first 200 aircraft shall be delivered by the end of today, and then they will come in batches of around 300 every day until Sunday, when the requisite number of aircraft will have been delivered. We thank you for your custom.
Intelligent Neighbors
21-07-2005, 14:25
I bloody hate using this method to advertise this product.