NationStates Jolt Archive


Ancient Earth

Taledonia
14-07-2005, 05:06
Seeing all the other Earths out there, I decided to make one, but this time it has a twist. It's set in the ancient world. This will allow for many fun RPs for those of us who like to RP huge battles and use great detail.

Our own personal forums (http://s12.invisionfree.com/Ancient_World) for all your pillaging needs!!

Details

To start out with, each nation picks one city state. The city states are devided up so it's less confusing. Once you pick a state, you decide what culture your going to be; either meditereanian(Greek, Roman, Carthaginian, Egyptian), Eastern(Persian), or barbarian(Germanics, Gauls, Spanish, Celts, Britons). After that you decide on whether or not your going to be nomadic or settled. If you are settled, you get only one city in each province, which you must name. If you are nomadic, you get to have only small villages, but get to have more than one in each region and you can keep changing their location.(Note, only barbarian nations can be nomadic.) After that, you decide how your government is going to work, decide where to put your funds(if your a civilised nation) and then just have fun conquering and pillaging and defending.

Rules

1. You start out with only one(1) city state, but if there is an unoccupied state right next to you and you get invaded, you may flee to that state and claim it, leaving your old state to the invader.
2. No conquering unoccupied states unless you get somebody else to RP a barbarian peoples in that state(people who do that be aware that it will not actually be your nation who you are RPing. This is just so people can't go into unoccupied land and say "Oh and after a big battle the barbarians surrendered.)
3. There is a set tech level. Only swords and the like, no gunpowder units of any kind.
4. You have to take losses, no matter how good your strategy is, you need to take losses in every battle(there are exceptions in the cases of archers or something). If you just came out of a war with another state, chances are you aren't going to be able to attack another until your resources and armies are replenished.

Other Information

To keep this world realistic, you need to take into account the climate and landscape of your states when doing things, and if your not a barbarian or nomadic state, then you also have to worry about money.

For example:

If you have a state up in Briton(and your a civilised people mind you), then you can earn income from livestock, farming, fishing, mining, lumber and trade. But you also have to take into account that you will have half a year in winter, therefore you can't farm or raise livestock, so you don't get any income from them.


The currency used on this Earth will be the denarii(which is a gold coin.) Denarii is needed for running your state and paying your armies. If you have no money, you can't build anything new or keep an army(unless your a barbarian state which means you don't have to worry about money, you just do things.)

To earn denarii, you need to have an economy in your state, meaning every single one of you people can't be in your military. To have an economy, you need to look at what region you took. If your not in the desert, you can farm better.

Earning Denarii

Every industry in your states will give you income, but you need to remember the rules. All things are for a half a year, not a full year. So here's a list of what will bring you what:

Livestock- 1000 denarii
Agriculture- 1000 denarii
Mining- 1500 denarii
Fishing- 1000 denarii
Luxuries- 1000 denarii(luxuries include furs, wool, silks, fruits, papyrus(paper), etc...)
Trade- 2000 denarii(only civilised states can have trade)

Another way to earn denarii is from taxes. But beware, setting a high tax rate will mean your people will revolt more often and your men will have less moral on the battlefield and may cause them to route. Please try to have a tax rate that ends with zero(0). (Remember, only civilised states need to worry about taxes and denarii.) (This is for a half a year, not a full year.)

10% tax- 1000 denarii
20% tax- 1500 denarii
30% tax- 2000 denarii
40% tax- 2500 denarii
50% tax- 3000 denarii
60% tax- 3500 denarii
70% tax- 4000 denarii
80% tax- 4500 denarii
90% tax- 5000 denarii
100% tax- 5500 denarii

What to do with all your income?

You may be getting lots of denarii from everything you have, but it does nothing for you unless you spend it somewhere. That means that you have to deduct denarii from your tresury when you want things done. All these must be deducted at the beginning of each year. Here's a list of what you need to spend your fortunes on:

Administration- 500 denarii
Law and Order- 1000 denarii
Trade- 1500 denarii
Keeping your economy alive- 1000 denarii
Military- 100 denarii(per 100 soldiers)

Your military

The thing that keeps your state free from enslavement and helps you forge that great empire, your soldiers. You need to consider more than just how many men to send fighting. It costs 100 denarii for every 100 military personel you have. That means you need to spread it out to cover the cost of your fighting force, your ship rowers and marines, your scouts and whatever else you want in your military.

Food

Another thing you must worry about is your food supply. Your state can't live without food, therefore having certain industries is good. Each year you must have at least 2000 food in your stockpile. To get food, you need a way to collect food. As long as you have one industry, you should be fine, but remember, each year you loose 2000 food and need to replenish it or you will have famine and starvation in your state. This will increase the chance of revolt.

Livestock farms- 1000 food per half year
Agriculture farms- 1000 food per half year
Fish- 1000 food per half year


Timeline

For this earth, each real life day will count as half a year in the game. Follow this and keep track of you stockpiles, especially your food if your in a region where it's hard to collect.


Well, I think I've summed up everything, Have fun!
(Note: My next post will have the map and who claimed what.)
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 05:13
Claim your territory

Here's the list of territories. To save time, I numbered each state. There are two sets of numbers. The "red states" are marked with red numbers and are found in the North. The "purple states" are marked with purple numbers and are in the south. When you claim your state, please say the colour, number, and tell us any other information you need to let us in on.

Map:http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=ancientworld.jpg

Territories:

Taledonia- Red State 1, Red State 2, Roman culture, civilised state, government type: Empire, capitol: Taledon

[NS] Parthini- Purple 35, Greco-Persian culture, civilised state, government style: republic, capitol: Partini

Zactarn Prime- Purple State 5, Egyptian culture, civilised state, government style: , capitol: Nadargaie City, going by the tribe name of Clastazia

Marxist Rhetoric- Red State 50, Slavic culture, civilised state, government style: Agrarian Democracy, capitol: Pietrograd

Riptide Monzarc- Red state 3, Germanic/Romanised culture, province of the Taledonian Empire

Hyperspatial Travel- Purple state 6, Carthaginian culture, civilised state, capitol: Realm Capitol

Warta Endor- Red state 40, Greco/Roman culture, civilised state, capitol: Salonae

The Scandivans- Red state 45, Greco-Roman-Celtic culture, civlized state, capitol: Valgrad, government style: Feudalism

Das Große Germanische Reich(The Grand Germanic Empire)-German-Red 14-Settled-Barbarian-Capital: Könige Ground(Kings Ground)-Style: Empire

Voxio- Purple state 10, Roman culture, civilized state, government type: Kingdom, capitol: Amor

Prates- Purple State 2, Greek culture, Civilised state, Government type: military dictatorship, capitol: Khand
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 05:15
Please note: This is the sign up thread, create new threads for the actual RPing, thanks.
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 05:30
A meteor flew threw space and bumped into the earth.
[NS]Parthini
14-07-2005, 05:49
I claim pink 35. Are we going to have an offsite forum? I usually find those are nice for things like this.

Oh, Eastern Culture, Greco-Persian (think Pontus), Capital: Parthini, Style: Republic
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 06:08
We might be able to have one of those, I'm not gonna make one now, but we'll see how many people sign up. Plus are you barbarian or civilised?

And it's purple, not pink.
Zactarn Prime
14-07-2005, 06:19
Clastazia-Pink-state 5-Egyptian-Civilised- Capital Nadargaie City
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 06:38
What the hell is clastazia?
Zactarn Prime
14-07-2005, 06:46
don't know just thought I'd use a different name for my tribe. I'm tired so just go with it that's my civilizations name.
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 06:49
Ok.
Riptide Monzarc
14-07-2005, 06:58
Can I have a barbaric state and be in, say, Italy?
Marxist Rhetoric
14-07-2005, 07:01
I'll join but if there isn't an offsite forum inform me. I'm not going to wade through the Jolt fotrums for an rp thread.

Communoskaya-Red-50-Slavic-Civilized .Capital: Pietrograd
Government: Agrarian Democracy, like Athens but with a great deal of farmer's and herder's rights. No aristocracy to speak of.
I know slavic would be barbarians but this is an alternate earth okay.
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 07:02
Go ahead, that's within the rules. All you gotta do is pick a place in italy, say what it is, then say wat culture ur gonna be(a.k.a gallic, germanic, britton, celtic, etc..) then say if your gonna be a nomadic barbarian state or a settled barbarian state. Either way you don't need to worry about money but I'd suggest nomadic as you can move your villages around at will and have a strategic advantage with that when defending.
Riptide Monzarc
14-07-2005, 07:03
On that note, PHBBforfree is a good forum. It's free (as the name implies), and relatively easy to maintain. (I'm an Admin on a PHBB forum),
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 07:08
I like invisionsforfree.
Riptide Monzarc
14-07-2005, 07:09
Red state 3, Germanic Barbaric culture, nomadic, government: military empire, capitol: Brackenhurst (the only permanent city).
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 07:15
Uh, if your nomadic you don't have a capitol, and your government is just a bunch of clans.

Nomadic means that they live in small wood or fur huts or something and they just have small villages that they usually pack up and move when the food is gone from that area.
Riptide Monzarc
14-07-2005, 07:18
Uh, if your nomadic you don't have a capitol, and your government is just a bunch of clans.

Nomadic means that they live in small wood or fur huts or something and they just have small villages that they usually pack up and move when the food is gone from that area.

I know about nomads...heh, I was just wanting a single settled city. But, there is still governance and administration to be dealt with, even in nomadic tribes. Logistics, architecture, metalworking, all these things need direction. But I guess I was jumping the gun a bit.

By the way, I can create a forum for the RP presently, if that would be alright.
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 07:27
I'll do it.

And by the way everyone, I added a few rules and stuff. Now if your state gets invaded and theres an unoccupied state next to you, then you can move there and leave your old region to the invader.

Plus I have set up a timeline. Each real life day equals half a year in the game. This will help with another new feature, your food stockpiles. The list of how to get food is on the front page like everything else and it will explain everything.
Riptide Monzarc
14-07-2005, 07:32
Aw, shucks. I already have a forum set up (well, registered at least). And I thought it';d be so much fun. Well, maybe with a different RP. I am involved with a similar, modern-world RPG called World at War. It's quite fun. I think i'll like this one too.

Hey, what about naval vessels? Do nomads have those?
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 07:43
Nomads have ships, but they lack the shipbuilding skills that the civilised nations have. They can build basically canoes, and big canoes, but no galleys or anything.

Plus here's the forum (http://s12.invisionfree.com/Ancient_World).
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 08:48
bump
Hyperspatial Travel
14-07-2005, 10:21
Carthage - Civilised - Realm Capitol
Warta Endor
14-07-2005, 10:28
Illyria-Red 40-Greco/Roman style civilization-capitol: Salonae
Kaduna
14-07-2005, 15:00
Celtic Civilised
Red 31
Capital: Kaduna
Style: Despotism
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 22:17
A giant chicken awoke and ran into the woods, bumping into many trees.
The Scandinvans
14-07-2005, 22:29
Greco-Roman-Celtic civlized cutlure
Red 45
Captial: Valgard
Style: King rulinng a class of the rich, nobles, wealthy merchants, and warriors (6% of population) which inturn rules the rest of population are servants, craftsmen, slaves, farmers, fishermen, etc.
Kaduna
14-07-2005, 22:30
Greco-Roman-Celtic cutlure
Red 45
Captial: Valgard
Style: King rulinng a class of the rich, nobles, wealthy merchants, and warriors (6% of population) which inturn rules the rest of population are servants, craftsmen, slaves, farmers, fishermen, etc.

Feudalism then right?
The Scandinvans
14-07-2005, 22:32
Yeah basicaly, except the wealthy merchants are on top to with the warriors and nobles of nesrly equal rank.
Taledonia
14-07-2005, 22:48
Mmkay.
Riptide Monzarc
15-07-2005, 03:23
Le Bumpage
Kaduna
15-07-2005, 18:30
for all you dudes who claimed land but haven't yet signed up HERE (http://s12.invisionfree.com/Ancient_World/index.php?act=idx) is the offsite forum, sign up or i'll go all Roman on your ass!
Taledonia
15-07-2005, 22:49
bump
Kaduna
16-07-2005, 03:47
Acco; Celtic god of War and Bump
Taledonia
19-07-2005, 01:42
A UFO came to invade Earth but bumped into the moon by accident.
Taledonia
21-07-2005, 22:41
Anybody else wanna sign up? It'll be really fun if we get every place filled.
Philanchez
22-07-2005, 00:18
Come on people!!!! It's good fun! You have got to love anything that can't be ruined by bullets and nukes!!!!!
Taledonia
22-07-2005, 00:19
Why don't you sign up then?
Philanchez
22-07-2005, 00:22
i did im the crazy german tribe that just took over land in spain by marriage...
Taledonia
22-07-2005, 00:28
Oh, that's who that is.
Skibereen
22-07-2005, 00:35
"Trade- 2000 denarii(only civilised states can have trade)"

Nomadic peoples were always essential to trade.

I cite the Bedouins. Excellent with live stock--sheep, camels, Horses--and they WERE trade in North Africa/Arabian peninsula.
Taledonia
22-07-2005, 00:37
Yes, I know that barbarian states actually had trade in RL, but I made the game so both civilised and barbarian states have strengths and weaknesses. It's just to improve gameplay.
Philanchez
22-07-2005, 00:48
it really needs more people if not it will die from lack of activity...i think a lot of people dont like the whole haveing to track the denarii and food parttoo much but if thats why they arent joining then they need a better reason cus its only one post a day...
Prates
22-07-2005, 01:26
Greek ;Civilised (is it ok to be civilised and do piracy on the high seas)
purple 2
Capital: Khand
Style: millatary dicatorship (well i like anarchy but its to uncivilised)
Philanchez
22-07-2005, 02:00
Im fine with that but im not the admin...youll have to get approved by him
Voxio
22-07-2005, 02:15
Voxio- Pink state 10, Roman culture, civilized state, government type: Kingdom, capitol: Amor
Taledonia
22-07-2005, 06:36
Both accepted, and remember to join the forums.
Voxio
22-07-2005, 06:50
I'm sorry, when I signed up i ment I wanted purple #10. It jus=t looked pink to me.
Taledonia
22-07-2005, 07:17
Ya, lot's of people get them confused, it's alright.
Taledonia
24-07-2005, 22:00
bee's bumped into bulls
Taledonia
27-07-2005, 22:59
Bump went the dog
Sharina
27-07-2005, 23:07
This Earth seems quite complicated with stats and playing with numbers. However, I like the premise of RP'ing ancient history nations and maybe eventually create a modern era Earth with very different nations and such.

I would like to play China, but as I can see, China is not included or involved in this Earth. Oh well.
Spooty
27-07-2005, 23:11
well there was an RP of mine a while back based on an earlier forerunner of this RP that did have China, but it seems that were stuck with Europe :(
Prates
08-08-2005, 21:44
bump

someone else please join its so borring and now its dead