NationStates Jolt Archive

"These days, the concept of national sovereignty is shown about as much respect as a bloody-handed murderer marauding through a preschool full of innocent children. Under the guise of 'human rights,' scores of nations, both leftist and rightist, infringe upon other nations' sovereignty, dictating what they can and not do. Whatever happened to the good old days, when nations could be as democratic or undemocratic as they wanted, and nobody else interfered in their affairs? I call upon all nations- democratic or dictatorial, left-wing or right-wing, to join the Sovereignty Defense Coalition, an alliance devoted to protecting the soveriegnty of all nations. We believe that, unless a nation is directly threatening and/or attacking yourself or an ally, you have no business intervening in their affairs. Let us return to a golden age when national sovereignty was cherished and respected. Join the SDC today!"

--Reynaldo Salazar--


~Members~

El Caudillo
The Transylvania
Ardessia
Prussiatopia

In those days, people didn't go public on conducting mass-genocides ;)

Sooo... How the Eshirian Sovereignty respond to this?

Maybe more nations cherish national Sovereignty than you might have thought...

Sign the Dominion up for the SDC but I have weird felling about this.

~ Lord Bennet du Paris, Secretary of Diplomacy

Sign the Dominion up for the SDC but I have weird felling about this.

~ Lord Bennet du Paris, Secretary of Diplomacy

"Membership accepted."

Tell me more about this alliance and how it intends on protecting national sovereignty and I shall address the Rammsteinburg legislature about it.

-Samuel Griffin, Deputy International Relations Minister

To: Mr. Samuel Griffin, Deputy International Relations Minister
From: Lord Bennet du Paris, Secretary of Diplomacy

I’m not the leader of the Sovereignty Defense Coalition but I think I can answer you question. The SDC would go in and back up a nation, whose sovereignty is being threatening. We do not care why their sovereignty is being threatening but we will try and help that nation. We are for sovereignty.

The Rammsteinburg legislature will vote on whether or not to join this alliance soon. Frank O'Moore, Minister of International Relations, will inform the leader of this alliance if the legislature votes to join.

-Samuel Griffin, Deputy International Relations Minister

This Alliance has got the attention of me and my Empire, we would like to join if possible.

-Emperor Murphy

I think this is the mechanations of a madman who seeks to have the freedom to kill his own people and not be under the threat of invasion from a nation that cares for human rights

It is the soverign right to protest and war against any nation for any reason.

We deplore any Alliance made by El Caudiilo that allows it to murder it's own people and that allows it to protect others who commit this terrible crime against Humanity.

The Chief Minister does not like making 'Either you're with us our against us' statements, but in this case, any nations which join this evil alliance of Tyranny will no longer be considered part of the international community but on the 'Axis of Genocide'.

Vintovian Foreign Minister.

Senatus Populusque Verghastus
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It is my belief that all nation-states are pro-sovereignty by default, but within reason. If a nation commits crimes of genocide, there is grounds to intervene. If a nation invades the sovereign territory of a neutral nation, there is grounds to intervene. If a nation builds armaments and recruits large armies with no obvious purpose, there is - at the least - grounds for caution.
Verghastinsel will not be joining the SDC, as we believe it to be a crude attempt to avoid international condemnation for any future activities of it's members.

Emil Kaufman
Foreign Minister

Because of the background of the nation founding this alliance, the Rammsteinburg legislature has voted NOT to join this alliance.

-Frank O'Moore
Rammsteinburg Minister of International Relations

We concure with the Rammsteinburg judgement.

We disagree with all who disagree to join this alliance and therefore agree to membership, if possible.

As proclaimed by President Tobias Grey, Farmina will decline to join this alliance, as it would be a direct infringement on the Republic's sovereignty.

Daniel Rickhart
Chancellor for Foriegn Affairs

"Ardessia and Prussiatopia, your membership applications have been approved."

--Reynaldo Salazar--

'YOU FOOLS!!', cried the foreign Minister, 'can't you see what you're doing? You're completely ruining our efforts to end Genocide!'

Bah! We'll make our own alliance!

"This alliance is merely a cynical attempt on the part of El Caudillo to gain enough allies to stave off invasion brought about by their numerous civil rights abuses. Regardless of whether or not specific nations believe that El Caudillo has the right to brutally execute large number of its citizens, surely all nations which have joined this should feel outraged that they are simply being used to further the ends of the ignonomious founder."

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Imperator Sarius Publius I of Praetonia

"This alliance is merely a cynical attempt on the part of El Caudillo to gain enough allies to stave off invasion brought about by their numerous civil rights abuses. Regardless of whether or not specific nations believe that El Caudillo has the right to brutally execute large number of its citizens, surely all nations which have joined this should feel outraged that they are simply being used to further the ends of the ignonomious founder."

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Imperator Sarius Publius I of Praetonia

"My dear sir, you are honestly mistaken. This is not 'a cynical attempt to gain enough allies to stave off invasion,' but an alliance genuinely interested in protecting the sovereignty of all nations, be they democratic, dictatorial, capitalist, socialist, leftist, rightist, or whatever."

--Reynaldo Salazar--

If you say so, hwoever I doubt you would say that it was a cycnical attempt to pull in allies.

Official Statement from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

'Rarely do I issue statements such as these personally, but this time the sheer amusement value of this rather pathetic undertaking have reached a new peak or depression? Little does it matter, but before I continue my plea, let it be known Guffingford does not endorse this alliance and its members. We see this gathering as wrong, injust and ill-organised by some manical nation who kills communists and hippies not of necessity or another remotely acceptable reason but to continue a "Look at me" policy built for a few attention lunatic people, including you. Christianity isn't real in your nation, only a farce used to make the pointless killings in your nation a bit more spicy for the international press.

Why do I even bother writing and sending this message into the ether as I already know there will be some political correct - in your narrow-minded world that is - saying that we are communist, marxist barbarians planning to break down social and moral order in your nation. Neither you nor communists have a sense of honor, morals and justice.'

- Kellus Constantine, Minister of Foreign Affairs & Colonial Office.

TO: The Vintovian Foreign Minister.
FROM: The God-Emperor Count JWolf

You and your nation is getting on my nerves. By placing the Dominion and this alliance on your 'Axis of Genocide', means you have become an enemy of the Dominion. So, what are you going to do?

(OOC: I just got one question, is their any specific tech we must have or will you take in any kind?)

~Lone Alliance international message~
This has gone on long enough, El Caudillo, stand down or face the conquences! And all of you joining this 'The Sovereignty Defense Coalition', back off lest you become those you seek to protect. Desist El Caudillo, or I will take harsh actions.

TO: The Vintovian Foreign Minister.
FROM: The God-Emperor Count JWolf

You and your nation is getting on my nerves. By placing the Dominion and this alliance on your 'Axis of Genocide', means you have become an enemy of the Dominion. So, what are you going to do?Gather lots of crosses and garlic, we imagine.
'YOU FOOLS!!', cried the foreign Minister, 'can't you see what you're doing? You're completely ruining our efforts to end Genocide!'

Bah! We'll make our own alliance!We will continue to support you should Rovonia attack you, but if war breaks out between you and El Caudillo or you and the Dominion, we will not be able to assist in your defence.

We have no love of El Caudillo either, but we're not willing to attack him to end his antics. As for the Dominion, we have no basis for opposing them at all.

We urge that all nations back away from war here. Such a conflict would serve little purpose.

~Lone Alliance international message~
This has gone on long enough, El Caudillo, stand down or face the conquences! And all of you joining this 'The Sovereignty Defense Coalition', back off lest you become those you seek to protect. Desist El Caudillo, or I will take harsh actions.

"We will defend are ally to the very end, and you will not stop us. Take your threats else were."

-Emperor Murphy

"We will defend are ally to the very end, and you will not stop us. Take your threats else were."

-Emperor Murphy
It's amazing that a 'Moralistic Democracy' will support such an immoral country. We will not be stopped by the likes of you. You dishonor yourself by allying with such an evil nation. For a nation who's motto is 'Death before Dishonor' you prove to lie.

~Lone Alliance international message~
This has gone on long enough, El Caudillo, stand down or face the conquences! And all of you joining this 'The Sovereignty Defense Coalition', back off lest you become those you seek to protect. Desist El Caudillo, or I will take harsh actions.

Official Dominion Response

You’re a funny man. Touch the Dominion or El Caudillo or any member of the SDC and Hell on Earth will be unleashed. Our targets will be military one not civilian ones. I have felling you will attack civilian targets like terrorist dogs. So, you have a real problem on your hands right now. Do you think so, too?

If El Caudillo does do something dumb again, I and the Dominion will take over the Sovereignty Defense Coalition. You have my word.

It's amazing that a 'Moralistic Democracy' will support such an immoral country. We will not be stopped by the likes of you. You dishonor yourself by allying with such an evil nation. For a nation who's motto is 'Death before Dishonor' you prove to lie.

"That is your point of veiw, and I don't care what you think about us. This is my decision and i will not backstabe allies, would you? Also, just because my people and my rating says my people are moralistic, it doesn't mean we hold the same values."

-Emperor Murphy

Official Dominion Response

You’re a funny man. Touch the Dominion or El Caudillo or any member of the SDC and Hell on Earth will be unleashed. Our targets will be military one not civilian ones. I have felling you will attack civilian targets like terrorist dogs. So, you have a real problem on your hands right now. Do you think so, too?

If El Caudillo does do something dumb again, I and the Dominion will take over the Sovereignty Defense Coalition. You have my word.

Why would I stoop to attacking civilians under the control of such an insane leader, you do not know our tatics very well, throughout our previous movements against El Caudillo we have yet to take a life.

Those who defend such a nation has the blood of all those that their leader has killed on their hands, you all of you in this 'SDC' have the blood of El Caudillo's murdered people on your hands. You defend Mass murder under the disguise of 'Sovereignty.' You defend a nation that tried to start a Crusade of death across all of the known worlds.

The rest of the world will know of this. You are no longer considered proper nations, you are evil, you are to be hated and despised.

A message to the leader of the Lone Alliance only:

Well, Mister, I have no blood on my hands because I‘m part of the SDC. I have seen leaders and people like you through out my years on this planet, we call Earth. The people they ruled over because their actions made killed them. They have got their nations into many wars because of their actions. I have been on this planet for over 10,000 years and have seen thing worser then what El Caudillo's government has done. So, you need watch your word with the SDC or me before somebody knocks you off your high horse.

And one more thing, you called the Dominion. An evil hated and despised nation but you do not know anything. How about you don’t call bigger men names because it could come back to haunt you in the near future.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

Bump

Our Proud Nation would also like to join.

~Lone Alliance international message~
This has gone on long enough, El Caudillo, stand down or face the conquences! And all of you joining this 'The Sovereignty Defense Coalition', back off lest you become those you seek to protect. Desist El Caudillo, or I will take harsh actions.

I will eat you alive.

Green Sun will gladly join, as the Sovereignty of a nation is the most important thing.

A message to the leader of the Lone Alliance only:
-Snip-
And one more thing, you called the Dominion. An evil hated and despised nation but you do not know anything. How about you don’t call bigger men names because it could come back to haunt you in the near future.
~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

We'll see if the Dominion will prevent El Caudillo from continuing their reigin of terror, or will you stand by and watch them commit more crimes. We'll see if El Caudillo seriously wants to form an alliance to defend Nations freedom, or see that it's just a front to protect the right for him to kill off everyone he happened to dislike that day.

Time will tell...

We'll stand down for now, but will you fail to prevent more atrocities?

We deplore any Alliance made by El Caudiilo that allows it to murder it's own people and that allows it to protect others who commit this terrible crime against Humanity.

The Chief Minister does not like making 'Either you're with us our against us' statements, but in this case, any nations which join this evil alliance of Tyranny will no longer be considered part of the international community but on the 'Axis of Genocide'.

Vintovian Foreign Minister.

The congress of the Federated Planets of Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh concurs with Vintovia in this matter and will intervene if any acts of genocide are committed against El Caudillo's peoples, or any other nation's peoples for that matter.

-President Feronen Selinorasi, presiding chairman of the F.P. of C.

-Snip-Time will tell...

We'll stand down for now, but will you fail to prevent more atrocities?

If El Caudillo wants us to be allies, they will stop their killing.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

@Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh: Only RP with MT or PMT nation not a FT nation.

Why would I stoop to attacking civilians under the control of such an insane leader, you do not know our tatics very well, throughout our previous movements against El Caudillo we have yet to take a life.

Those who defend such a nation has the blood of all those that their leader has killed on their hands, you all of you in this 'SDC' have the blood of El Caudillo's murdered people on your hands. You defend Mass murder under the disguise of 'Sovereignty.' You defend a nation that tried to start a Crusade of death across all of the known worlds.

The rest of the world will know of this. You are no longer considered proper nations, you are evil, you are to be hated and despised.

"Because of one nation we are to hated and despised? If they were doing so badly and commiting so many atrocities, then why don't his people rebel against him? If they are so unhappy and so suffering, then they can simply change it themselves! Without the support of teh people, the government is nothing! You cannot make a dog sit if the dog does not want to sit and does not respect you enough to sit."
-Emperor Jordan

Only RP with MT or PMT nation not a FT nation.

OOC: Well, that sucks for me, i'm a FT nation. Plus on not even on the same planet :( . Looks like i'll have to do some searching to find my old MT tech and maybe change were i am.

OOC: Well, that sucks for me, i'm a FT nation. Plus on not even on the same planet :( . Looks like i'll have to do some searching to find my old MT tech and maybe change were i am.

OOC: Well, it is EC's fault, he should of have put (MT ONLY) in the first post. But I think I’m going to restart the SDC with me as the leader, so nobody can do what Vintovia and the others are doing.