NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: First let me start by saying that the ship here is not affiliated in any way with my government, this is a random group doing this and not my government. I'll use them whenever I'm doing something that is private business and not connected with the New Empire of Scellia. You get to pick where this is, and what you have there, if your system of government or some other factor prevents your Empire from ever having a planet like this please post that and ignore this.

Rim System, Huntaer Empire...

The planet was small but hospitable, a slowly revolving blue and green disc. The nightside had sparse lights, as only twenty million or so people lived on the planet and the day had very little to no signs of habitation. The planet had only one true spaceport, large enough to handle ships of medium size and numerous small ones. It was in the capital city, the larget city with over a million inhabitants

With a suddeness that can only come from exiting hyperspace a Gallofree transport reverted to realspace, half the engines shot away and trailing debris and plasma. All along the medium transports hull carbon scoring from laser fire had torn deep gouges into the outside of the ship, and sir leaked from half a dozen places. A semisphere of shielding along the back fo the craft was all that was left of the normal shields, though it was slowly building back up to strength.

Then the pirates arrived, a half a dozen TIE-Wings, and began to pound on the back of the old freighter. The semisphere of shields lasted forty seconds against the barrage of lasers from the Uglies, the transport sent a desperate transmission to the planet. If there were any defense forces, even a squadron of TIE Interceptors, then they were sure that the pirates would run. The TIE-Wing was the worst possible fighter imaginable, execept for one key thing. The TIE-Wings is the ball cokpit of a TIE fighter replacing the cockpit of a Y-Wing, not only is the resulting craft slow and unshielded but has only two laser cannons. The main benefit to the TIE-Wing was that it had a hyperdrive, and that made it perfect for raiding unescorted merchants.

"Imp-Imperial planet, this is freighter Damocles. We are... under attack by pirates and... request any assistance that might be... spared."
The tranmission jumps and breaks up momentarily, the spaces from the jittering picture and shaking bridge.
"We will follow any ship you send out to land, but please..."
The transmission cuts out, the pirates having shot off the communications antenna and a good portion of the back of the ship. The glowing debris floats slowly away, the fighters continue to pound the hapless freighter.

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right. Special delivery for huntaer.

OOC: Why use one of those lumbering hulks to transport something special?

OOC: I'll just lurk and watch for awhile, see what happens, maybe if I get interested I'll get involved.

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OOC: Would the world hate me if I mocked your choice of transport if the cargo is important?

Wait for the end before you mock me.

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OOC: As you know, I'm currently posting on the "Destruction of" blah blah blah blah thread. I'll post something up momentarily.

OOC: First let me start by saying that the ship here is not affiliated in any way with my government, this is a random group doing this and not my government. I'll use them whenever I'm doing something that is private business and not connected with the New Empire of Scellia. You get to pick where this is, and what you have there, if your system of government or some other factor prevents your Empire from ever having a planet like this please post that and ignore this.

Rim System, Huntaer Empire...

The planet was small but hospitable, a slowly revolving blue and green disc. The nightside had sparse lights, as only twenty million or so people lived on the planet and the day had very little to no signs of habitation. The planet had only one true spaceport, large enough to handle ships of medium size and numerous small ones. It was in the capital city, the larget city with over a million inhabitants

With a suddeness that can only come from exiting hyperspace a Gallofree transport reverted to realspace, half the engines shot away and trailing debris and plasma. All along the medium transports hull carbon scoring from laser fire had torn deep gouges into the outside of the ship, and sir leaked from half a dozen places. A semisphere of shielding along the back fo the craft was all that was left of the normal shields, though it was slowly building back up to strength.

Then the pirates arrived, a half a dozen TIE-Wings, and began to pound on the back of the old freighter. The semisphere of shields lasted forty seconds against the barrage of lasers from the Uglies, the transport sent a desperate transmission to the planet. If there were any defense forces, even a squadron of TIE Interceptors, then they were sure that the pirates would run. The TIE-Wing was the worst possible fighter imaginable, execept for one key thing. The TIE-Wings is the ball cokpit of a TIE fighter replacing the cockpit of a Y-Wing, not only is the resulting craft slow and unshielded but has only two laser cannons. The main benefit to the TIE-Wing was that it had a hyperdrive, and that made it perfect for raiding unescorted merchants.

"Imp-Imperial planet, this is freighter Damocles. We are... under attack by pirates and... request any assistance that might be... spared."
The tranmission jumps and breaks up momentarily, the spaces from the jittering picture and shaking bridge.
"We will follow any ship you send out to land, but please..."
The transmission cuts out, the pirates having shot off the communications antenna and a good portion of the back of the ship. The glowing debris floats slowly away, the fighters continue to pound the hapless freighter.

"Roger That Damocoles. We shall send in Phantom Squadron and the Invulnerable (OOC: one of my Petulant Class Star Destroyers) for escort."

Captain Vilgor sat in a bar, sipping some hard whisky after a days work of chasing down some smuggling shipments. "Attention all Phantom Pilots, report to battle station immediately. We have a transport in distress."
Ah, not again. Fuck. "Be right there."

"Hey captain, why you always in a rush to catch some smugglers or pirates?"

"It comes with the job bar tender. Keep the change."

Moments later Vilgor found himself soaring out of the planet's atmosphere, along with 6 other Phantom Squadron Pilots.

"Wings, report in."

"Phantom 2 standing by."

"Phantom 5 standing by."

"Phantom 3 standing by."

"Phantom 8 standing by."

"Phantom 9 standing by."

"Phantom 12 standing by."

"Boy, activate your cloaking devices and cut radio chatter off. We're going to fight these guy's with fear. Use your standard tactics. They fail to work."

OOC: As it is the logical place I'm going to assume the the SD is in orbit.

A Star Destroyer was not what the pirates were expecting, especially one as advanced as a Petulant class. With a flurry of laserfire the TIE-Wings pulled about and made a run for it, even a TIE Defender would have a nearly impossible making it to missile range of the Uglies before they made the jump to lightspeed. However the last few shots were revenge enough for escape, the reactor of the Damocles developed a small reactor breach.

Radiation flooded the rear end of the ship, only a capital class warship had the facilities to deal with the breach, though the Gallofree was too big to fit into the docking bay of a Star Destroyer. A side effect was that is played hell with sensors, making an readings on the Damocles impossible until the reactor was shut down. With its main communications shot away the Damocles heads toward the Invulnerable, limping its way in system.

OOC: As it is the logical place I'm going to assume the the SD is in orbit.

A Star Destroyer was not what the pirates were expecting, especially one as advanced as a Petulant class. With a flurry of laserfire the TIE-Wings pulled about and made a run for it, even a TIE Defender would have a nearly impossible making it to missile range of the Uglies before they made the jump to lightspeed. However the last few shots were revenge enough for escape, the reactor of the Damocles developed a small reactor breach.

Radiation flooded the rear end of the ship, only a capital class warship had the facilities to deal with the breach, though the Gallofree was too big to fit into the docking bay of a Star Destroyer. A side effect was that is played hell with sensors, making an readings on the Damocles impossible until the reactor was shut down. With its main communications shot away the Damocles heads toward the Invulnerable, limping its way in system.

OOC: Note that the Petulant class doesn't have a hangar bay... There will be transports coming up from the planet.

IC:
Several Builder Shuttles launched from the planet to help keep the transport still as attachment crew attempted to cut through it's hull so that repair crew could get in. The Invulnerable hovered slowly towards the Daocles untill it was in tractor beam range. On the hull, the cutters managed to cut through the hull, and the first of the space marines was lowered into the ship. <Hello? Ok, everything is comeing along good. There is a lot of radiation leak in here, but my suit will protect me for a good 18 hours. Send the rest of the repair crew. Seal the leak.> This was seargent Werika, veterin of the Second Civil War (OOC: Which was when Trilkan became Emperor).

What the marine saw dismayed him, especially since he knew it couldn't be good. In fact, he was sure it was quite bad, very very bad. Even in the outer cooridors there were boxes stacked tightly if haphazardly, the outermost that he could see lablelled "NERGON 14 - DANGER VERY EXPLOSIVE".

In the empty bridge a counter slowly worked its way down, first to twenty seconds, then to ten. It was at five when the Marine first peeked into the ship, and his first transmission came as the counter hit zero. ~1 kiloton of Nergon 14 detonated, just above the atmosphere and right next to the Star Destroyer, nothing but a Death Star could survive a blast like that at that range. Though it was not as efficient as anti-matter Nergon 14 was much easier to store and use, which was why it was used as the warhead for proton torpedos. While Nergon 14 isn't as efficient as antimatter it was close enough that no one every used antimatter as an explosive. Thus the Damocles held up to its name, becoming the Sword above the small peaceful planet.

The blast was 4e22 J, or around 8 Petatons of TNT, and was enough to immediatly convert the Star Destroyer from warship to disassotiated molecules in less then a blink of an eye. The entire hemisphere facing the Damocles had the top 3m burned off blowing away most of the atmosphere into the cold reaches of space. Those colonists not immediatly killed by the blast would die of asphyxiation with nothing left to breath on the once beautiful planet. Of the planets dual moons one was near enough to knock it from orbit, sending it slowly drifting away into the reaches of space. The other was unharmed, on the other side of the planet at the time of the blast.

Even before the after glow has left space a ship arrives in system, another Star Destroyer however this one is a Mk I and painted black with crimson trim. It slowly begins to move in system, stopping to pick up the large chunk 'debris' that came out of the Damocles.

OOC: Sorry about the GMing about what happened to your Destroyer, but I believe that no matter how strong the shields were they wouldn't have stopped the blast. Another post coming after this if there is no reaction from anyone.

What the marine saw dismayed him, especially since he knew it couldn't be good. In fact, he was sure it was quite bad, very very bad. Even in the outer cooridors there were boxes stacked tightly if haphazardly, the outermost that he could see lablelled "NERGON 14 - DANGER VERY EXPLOSIVE".

In the empty bridge a counter slowly worked its way down, first to twenty seconds, then to ten. It was at five when the Marine first peeked into the ship, and his first transmission came as the counter hit zero. ~1 kiloton of Nergon 14 detonated, just above the atmosphere and right next to the Star Destroyer, nothing but a Death Star could survive a blast like that at that range. Though it was not as efficient as anti-matter Nergon 14 was much easier to store and use, which was why it was used as the warhead for proton torpedos. While Nergon 14 isn't as efficient as antimatter it was close enough that no one every used antimatter as an explosive. Thus the Damocles held up to its name, becoming the Sword above the small peaceful planet.

The blast was 4e22 J, or around 8 Petatons of TNT, and was enough to immediatly convert the Star Destroyer from warship to disassotiated molecules in less then a blink of an eye. The entire hemisphere facing the Damocles had the top 3m burned off blowing away most of the atmosphere into the cold reaches of space. Those colonists not immediatly killed by the blast would die of asphyxiation with nothing left to breath on the once beautiful planet. Of the planets dual moons one was near enough to knock it from orbit, sending it slowly drifting away into the reaches of space. The other was unharmed, on the other side of the planet at the time of the blast.

Even before the after glow has left space a ship arrives in system, another Star Destroyer however this one is a Mk I and painted black with crimson trim. It slowly begins to move in system, stopping to pick up the large chunk 'debris' that came out of the Damocles.

OOC: Sorry about the GMing about what happened to your Destroyer, but I believe that no matter how strong the shields were they wouldn't have stopped the blast. Another post coming after this if there is no reaction from anyone.

OOC: Have you read the statistics of the Petulant?
EDIT: Ever watched the last voyager epesode? Where Voyager got it's ablative armor and it resisted the borg cutting laser(and that could cut into entire cities on a planet) and resisted the whole entire beam? Put that on the Petulant. That's the strength of it's Regenerative Ablative Armor. If something can resist the borg cutting beam, it can withstand that blast.

OOC: If it can withstand that blast then it is invincible against every Star Destroyer before whatever ones you designed and most superlasers that can't destroy planets. A heavy turbolaser is low teratons (1-3 teratons), this is 3-8 thousand times more powerful then a heavy turbolaser blast. That little cutting laser is nothing compared to the power of a heavy turbolaser, nothing in the Federation can compare to the power of a HT except the Genisis Device and that was a one hit wonder superweapon. A single Star Destroyer could take on the Federation and force it to surrender through tactics and strategic planning, the GE at its height could squash the Borg like a bug. That silly Ablative Armor is nothing compared to the power of the hull used on a Mk I SD, at least the one used on Voyager.

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Bump, minor updates on post #17.

OOC: If it can withstand that blast then it is invincible against every Star Destroyer before whatever ones you designed and most superlasers that can't destroy planets. A heavy turbolaser is low teratons (1-3 teratons), this is 3-8 thousand times more powerful then a heavy turbolaser blast. That little cutting laser is nothing compared to the power of a heavy turbolaser, nothing in the Federation can compare to the power of a HT except the Genisis Device and that was a one hit wonder superweapon. A single Star Destroyer could take on the Federation and force it to surrender through tactics and strategic planning, the GE at its height could squash the Borg like a bug. That silly Ablative Armor is nothing compared to the power of the hull used on a Mk I SD, at least the one used on Voyager.

Dude, your agument makes no sence what-so-ever (not to mention your first sentence is confusing).

1. one star destroyer would be crushed by the Sovereign Class starships (Enterprise-E). ONE star destroyer couldn't hold up to the modern technology of the federation. Star Wars technology doesn't change much in a thousand years, and star trek's change every hundred. Honestly, look at the scientific statistics of federation vessiles before you make an arguement. Klingons, yeah. The GE could easily conquer them.

2) If a simple B-Wing torpeato can destroy an ISD mk I, it's hull is not that strong. Voyager lasted 7 years in UNKNOWN space before finnaly returning
to federation space and has had several repairs made to it in the meantime. As to the "Silly Ablative Armor," you don't get it. It resisted everything the borg threw at voyager before the Queen finnaly adapted to the ablative armor's technology. If voyager is still alive even after every single battle they've had with the major and minor governments of the Delta Quadrant, it's hull is far superior than thus of the ISD mk I.

3) You obviously don't know jack-shit about the borg collective and it's technology, nore of the technology of the Federation. ONE borg cube destroyed the ENTIRE Federation fleet as well as the Klingon's before it was destroyed by the Enterprise-D and again by Enterprise-E. Eventually, the Turbolasers would be like a kid shooting a BB-Gun at a tank. The Borg Cuttinglaser.... Maby you didn't get the part where it destroyed entire cities? This is just one cutting laser and the borg conquored entire civilizations in a matter of moments. The cutting laser can end up cutting ANY size it needs. It could cut out the entire bridge of the ISD and that would be the end of the ISD. Bye-Bye. The Federation also has Quantom Torpeatoes, Tricobalt Torpeatoes, and Temporal Torpeatoes, all of which are much more powerfull than the torpeatoes and missiles of Star Wars. The Phaser Arrays(or the point deffence lasers) may be at a slight dissadvantage due to the fact it's all connected is overcome by it's power. The Enterprise-D refitt( From "All Good Things....") shot through a klingon battle cruiser eventhough they had shields. Federation Technology is far superior than to star wars.

4) What tactics did the empire use? Big ships and Guns? The only people I've seen use tactics and win is the civilizations from Star Trek, Andromeda, the Rebel Alliance, and the Empires of 40k (I haven't watched B5, so I can't speak for them). Those were nations who've used real tactics. The empire was sloppy with their tactics and they were arrogant. (Immitation of the Empire's tactitions)"Oh. The rebels aren't a threat. What is this? They send in only 20 fighters after the death star? Oh, dear. We'll just send 8 fighters or so after them. Oh, and lord vader and his escorts as well. *Moments later* WHAT!?! How could the rebel's win the combat? We had an Uber Killer Death Star! Why did the rebel's win?? Noooo.... I'm dead!" (Death Star blows up. the end)
The only REAL tactition the Galactic Empire had was Grand Admiral Thrawn, and he's dead.


5) That whole thread of yours was godmodding entirely. You were controling MY people eventhough you're NOT SUPPOSE to when Rping.
I hereby IGNORE your attack. You also never mentioned the blast size, so it could've easily missed the PTSD(it was a Gallofree transport. The blast wouldn't be very big coming from it anyways). You only mentioned the power of the explosion and not the actuall distance(Diamiter). If we had talked the attacks out through TG's or Email, that would be another story but it didn't happen like that.

Stardestroyer.net (www.stardestoyer.net), look at this site if you haven't already. Photon torpedos are measured in Megatons, Heavy Turbolasers are measured in giga to tera tons, they are literally thousands to tens of thousands of times more powerful then a Photon torpedo. A single Star Destroyer in the space of an hour can do something called a Base Delta Zero, which is render a planet entirely uninhabitable by blowing vaporizing some portion of the planets crust all over. Once you've read the site, then come back and try to tell me that any of the stuff you have said is true about SW vs ST.

Dude, your agument makes no sence what-so-ever (not to mention your first sentence is confusing).

Read the site, it will make sense. Essentially, if the armor is as strong as you claim then the weapons of the Imperator Mk 1-3 can ever scratch it, as in it would take tens of thousands of Mk 1s to even hurt a Petulant.


If a simple B-Wing torpeato can destroy an ISD mk I, it's hull is not that strong.

One torp doesn't do nearly anything, a thousand can ravage destroy an SD completely and provide serious problems for an SSD.

That whole thread of yours was godmodding entirely. You were controling MY people eventhough you're NOT SUPPOSE to when Rping.

Provide one example of when I said anything that your ships/people did, the Damocles was a Blood of the Fold ship that appeared out of nowhere and was unschedueled for that planet. I haven't had a single ship of yours do a damned thing.

You also never mentioned the blast size, so it could've easily missed the PTSD(it was a Gallofree transport. The blast wouldn't be very big coming from it anyways).

The Invulnerable hovered slowly towards the Daocles untill it was in tractor beam range.

The entire hemisphere facing the Damocles had the top 3m burned off blowing away most of the atmosphere into the cold reaches of space. Those colonists not immediatly killed by the blast would die of asphyxiation with nothing left to breath on the once beautiful planet. Of the planets dual moons one was near enough to knock it from orbit, sending it slowly drifting away into the reaches of space.

Before you IGNORE me try realizing that most of your arguements make no sense, and if you want me to I will copy and paste all relevant information from SD.net that counters everyh point that you have made of the SW vs ST. It will include power calculations citing specific espisodes etc.