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The Slovakastanian government has announced that eighteen tactical nukes will be launched at targets in a simulation operation. The targets will be randomly selected from a computer database and missiles (de-commissioned, of course) will be fired. The purpose of the exercise is to test our nuclear strike capabilities and weaknesses in weapons design. If one of the missiles is aimed at your country, don't fear- it is decommissioned and will parachute downwards instead of crashing to prevent unneccessary casualties. Thank you.

Please note that any missile fired at Scellia will be shot down, whatever you say about this being routine. If more then one missile is fired at Scellia this will be regarded as a hostile act and a retaliation strike will be launched, we will be very sorry if it turns out the none of the multiple missiles contain nuclear warheads but not as sorry as you.

Slovakastania welcomes all attempts to shoot down the missiles. It's simply a routine test of missile effectiveness and evasion capabilities- which would only be helped by attempts to shoot it down.

OOC: I did a bunch of space stuff around a year ago, a single ICBM is guarenteed to get shot down by my space defense system. If you launch one I'll just RP it as getting destroyed by laserfire, just a warning so you know that its not GMing.

OOC: I did a bunch of space stuff around a year ago, a single ICBM is guarenteed to get shot down by my space defense system. If you launch one I'll just RP it as getting destroyed by laserfire, just a warning so you know that its not GMing.
OOC: to lazy to make a IC post, but my stance is the same as his, I have lasers, ABM missiles, guided-kenetic energy space launched missiles and theather SAMs, I've tested these with a 95% success rate, my allies also have these ABM defences, and how can we be sure the warheads are decomissioned?

OOC: Godmoding.

OOC: Godmoding.
How so? I have a 95% rate in test, combat effectiveness would be more towards 85%-90%, besides, that's not the success rate for each layer of defence but for the overall effectiveness, most nations(especially bigger ones) have success rates higher than mine, and their's are combat tested.
My defences have only 2 faults, which i will not tell anyone.

Your success rate wil change based on number of missiles fired. For 1-10 missiles you may have a 95-100% success rate, after that it goes down. For larger nations that spend trillions every year on space based weapons you can get 95-100% success on 50-100 missiles but goes down after that.

The Omzian Forces and Ministry of Foreign Affairs is extremely disturbed by these reckless methods to test weapons of mass destruction, especially under the guise of "solely" testing the capabilities of said weapon by firing them at live targets. This is, in our view, not only a foolish and careless decision, but also a decision that will endanger the nation in question. If such testing is in any way, conducted over our own nation, regardless of the effectiveness of such weapon systems and regardless if they are live warheads or practice weapons, severe retailatory measures by the Omzian Forces will be taken immediately.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Omzian Democratic Republic

Please find enclosed the cordinates for several BARRIER class fleet defense ships that we would like to donate as targets for your test launch. These ships are designed to defend fleets and port cities from ballistic strikes as well as conventional naval weapons. since at this time the BARRIER defense system has only been tested on missiles with known trajectories and capabilities. These ships will actively attempt to shoot down missiles. In exchange we will release to you information generated on the performance of your missiles and thoughts for improvement. If you decide to target our ships for your test, please do not target all of the BARRIERs directly so that cross range effectiveness can be determined.

OOC: You said that there is no chance of a missile penetrating whatsoever. Godmoding.

Your success rate wil change based on number of missiles fired. For 1-10 missiles you may have a 95-100% success rate, after that it goes down. For larger nations that spend trillions every year on space based weapons you can get 95-100% success on 50-100 missiles but goes down after that.
The 50-100 missile 95-100% success rate is for me, my nation and others (Space Union, Credonia, Pushka) all pitched in together and developed a ABM defense with a >75% success rate for up too 500 missiles, it took many RL weeks (many NS years) and we deploy relatively simple ABM defenses in large numbers, we each have 20 ABM satellites in Geosnych(sp?) orbit and another 10 in regular orbit, along with C&C sats, and ground based lasers and masers and tons (I have >1000 ABM launch sites with 6 launchers to a site)of ABM missiles and long ranged SAMs, we have tested them against Credonian ICBM (which hve many stealth measures) with a 70% success rate, I don't know how many countermeasures or stealth devices you have, but the baseline for a Peacekeeper type ICBM is 95-100% for less then 500.

OOC: Against my systems it is very small small likelyhood on penetration(.001%) due to the fact that I have 15 multitrillion dollar manned stations and a wide variety of defense satillites. I didn't know that Silver Sky teamed up with other nations to build these, as I said my initial foray into space was over a year ago, tech and funding has since improved. I can intercept a very high number of missiles at near 100% due the larg number of defenses I have space based. That cuts down on having to intercept after MIRV.

Vintovian Defense Minister: Vintovia has no military left and we are still rebuilding from some devastating bombs.

SO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DONT POINT THEM NEAR VINTOVIA!!!

they're what?...Computer Randomly what?...Oh...Computers are stupid.

OOC: Wait, hold on, I just found out something, how the hell did Slovakastania get nukes? He has a pop. of 14 million, I do't get how he could develop/produce nukes in that short time frame unless another nation helped or gave him nukes.

OOC: In my day (I fell off the boards for a while, leaving a few open threads that were finished in that time) there was a strict 1 month for nukes policy. However that appears to have fallen into disfavor, plus this is only the launch system and not a nuke. Its easy to get the missiles, harder to get the bombs.

OOC: Realisticly, shooting down an ICBM with a satalite isnt that hard. I'd give it a 95% chance of shooting it down. And PLUS, if your not at war, and the missle will only drift gently to earth, how is it godmodding? Just say you shot them down, easy. The missle wont hurt anyone weather it lands or not...

Any such missiles fired at the People's Republic will be considered to be an actual nuclear attack and we will respond with a full nuclear counter-strike.

Missile launching has been confirmed and the targets have been locked on. Be aware that we simply do not have the capacity for nuclear production as of yet and only control several "live" nukes. These are empty test missiles.

Five of the BARRIER ships were reserved as targets. The rest of the missiles are headed towards various global targets.

Don't even dare attack my nation. Any attack will be met with a powerful response from us, mostly counter-nuclear strike.

President Harsimran Mann
Capitalist Republic of Space Union

OOC: Yeah, TSS participated in the NDS Missile Shield Program. With the combined funding, we have well over a multi-trillion spending on this shield so I say that we have that rate that TSS said.

OOC:What type of missile are you firing?
IC:The launch ploom of the ballistic missile was easily detectable. Within seconds, a Red Tidean EWS(Early Warning Sattelite) detected the missiles infrared heat signature.

"Sir!" The control man yelled at VoyskaRT HQ(the Red Tidean equivalent of NORAD, except it also controlled Red Tides SDI), "Picking up a ballistic missile launch! There is a bird! I repeat there is a bird! Wait! Make that 18 birds! Calculating ballistic trajectory now."

The 4 star general knew about the test, but he also had direct orders what too do if the missile was calculated coming towards them.

"Ballistic Trajectory calculated, one of them is heading towards Red Tide!"

The General sighed, "Destroy it."

The multiple ABM sattelites that were spread over the equator in geo-synchronous obit locked onto the missile while it was still in its Boost Phase. Up to 5 sattelites locked on. Almost simultaneously every single laser fired.

OOC2:The Boost Phase is the most vulnerable phase of a Ballistic Missile launch to orbital ABM Sattelites. Its when the missile is moving the slowest (yet still to fast to change its flight path) and all the warheads are in one place.

OOC: Space Union you have a TG, and others don't worry it's related to this thread.

OOC: Space Union you have a TG, and others don't worry it's related to this thread.

TGed back. :)

"Sattelite confirms, we have a live bird on an inbound trajectory."

"All hands to battle stations, repeat all hands to battle stations!" as the klaxons came on over the intercom the officers on duty sprinted to their battle consoles and flicked the war/peace switch solidly into 'war' within five seconds the massive SPY-3d solid state array was pumping out full power in search/acquisition mode sweeping the sky for the incoming ballistic threat. The ships small anti missile missile battery came on line and the LIDAR/LADAR and AAIR (All Angle InfraRed) arrays began actively sweeping the sky. "Spotter confirms missile on inbound approach, radar is in full acquisition." A tone began beeping throughout the war room as the radar solidified its lock on the incoming missile.
"Selecting automatic" the missiles seekers began to lock onto the returns generated by the SPY and started tracking the missile.
"Limeys are in acquisition. Nuclear weapon confirmed. Missiles on auto fire sequence." as the LIDAR/LADAR arrays began tracking in on the incoming missile the first anti missile missile launched, really a long ranged independent sensor array designed to gauge more accurately the type of missile and to determine in the presence of multiple targets which were false or decoys and which were actual inbounds.
"Lara reporting, inbounds classified data being fed to battery." the Missile entered the 'envelope' an sphere in which the Barriers sensors and weapons held total sway.
"Missiles away" the ship shuddered and the outside views were clouded as the anti missile batteries fired. Seconds later the sky was full of fire as the missiles detonated four miles out at the edge of their effective range spraying shrapnel that would rip a reentry vehicle moving at ballistic reentry speed to shreds.
"Inbounds still reported, second phase away." something had survived the first wave of missiles and a second wave launched, these missiles detonated two miles out, again filling the air with fire and shrapnel.
"All sensors confirm target destroyed in second phase." There was a round of cheers at the successful 'defense' they had put up.

The cheers echoed on the other Barriers that had been targeted. of which only this one had been informed of the test and of which only two had been informed by sattelie of the actual launch. The Other ships had destroyed their missiles in the third and fourth stages, the last two stages before a missile hit optimum airburst altitude.


Message to Slovakastan:
congratulations on a succesful test firing. Recomendations for increasing the kill probability of your missiles will follow tomorrow.

OOC: TGed Back. ;)

IC:
[Location: JOSH-A, headquarters of The Silver Sky Military, Time: 10:28 GMT]

1st Lt. Edwards watched in shock from the live Infrared feed from EW Satellites as 18 bright plumes erupted from Slovakastania, after a brief analysis of the trajectories they found out one was headed towards Red Tide, another towards Mondoth, but what shocked him was that one ICBM was headed towards the city of North Point.

North Point was a state capital, a international trade hub, home of the 3rd Air Force and secondary base of the 5th Fleet.

Lt. Edwards yelled at the commanding officer "Commander, we have confirmed bandits, 18 of them, but only one is headed towards us, I repeat 1 bandit is headed towards North Point."

Commander Gerald's mouth clenched shut. "I though the President told those bastards to not aim any at us!" "Get me the President on the phone!" Lt. activate the SDI satellites, and the ABM lasers, show those assholes who they're messing with!"

[Location: ABM site on Mt. Lamber 1,400 miles west of North Point]

The base was buzzing with activity and yells as the base's 2 500Mw Solid State Particle Lasers.

After they charged they fired there beautiful yet deadly blue colored lasers into the darkening sky.

The lasers bounced off of satellites equipped with mirrors in orbit and headed towards the ICBM which was still in boost stage. The lasers created immense heat while the particles in the lasers made wore away at the rocket.

They missiles exploded in a huge explosion blasting fragments over 300km.

Meanwhile the President prepared to address the nation.

AFter evaluating sensor data from the five missiles targeted at our ships we have founda few things that could easily increase the effectivness of your missiles.
1. decoys: A few dozen deflated mylar baloons stuck in with the MIRVs can greatly reduce the ability of ABM sattelites to target and destroy your MIRVs and will confuse ground based observers. Similarly a few light load missiles also set on ballistic trajectories can increase your armed missiles chance of reaching their target.
2. RAMs, A slight increase in cost and weight but using an ablative coat for reentry and then having the missile coated in radar absorbent materials will greatly reduce the chances of most ABM systems destroying your Missiles.
these (except for the mylar balloons) are a bit pricey but will greatly increase the effectiveness of your strategic arsenal.