NationStates Jolt Archive

It has come to our attention that many Socialist nations do use the Capitalist system, or vice versa. This alliance is to protect the Capitalist allies of Socialists or the Socialist allies of Capitalists from harm. Nations that fall into the following may apply for this alliance:
Capitalist nations that have socialist settlements
Socialist nations that use a capitalist economy system or a modification of one
Capitalist nations with Socialist allies
Socialist nations with Capitalist allies

This alliance is to protect the unification of the two best systems ever concieved from their foes, internal and foreign.

Nations in this alliance:
Green Sun

Igovians are confused. A capitalist is an owner of capital. A socialist advocates the popular control of capital. A capitalist stands to lose by that. A socialist nation that uses a capitalist economy is a capitalist nation, not a socialist one. Nobody can figure-out what this is all about.

But one could also say that they are also a Socialist-Capitalist nation. Socialism is a form of how the people live. Capitalism is a mode of economy. Both tolitarian and Democratic governments can be in effect in either nation, but many Capitalists have an extreme dislike towards Socialist nations, and vise versa. This alliance is to embrace those who put aside their political views from both sides in an alliance to promote peace and protect others like them. Perhaps I could have been clearer.

To which Igovians reply with exactly the same level of confusion. Socialism is an economic model advocating the popular ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange, while capitalism is the individual theft of these things.

Perhaps, many speculate, it is time to offer-up Igovian thinking to the global masses so as to do away with this half-arsed appeasement once and for all...

Socialism is not an economic model. The people work in their respective jobs to work together as a community and they purchase the materials they need and it is distributed equally. At least in Green Sun, that's how the communities work.

The United Kingdom concurs with our esteemed Igovian colleagues. Socialism is an economic model, albeit with a wide range of possible descriptions, that - for all intents and purposes at its most extreme interpretation - stands at the opposite pole of capitalism, again at its most extreme interpretation. The United Kingdom operates under a form of limited capitalism with a government that seeks to correct the gross social inequities created by a free-market economy.

Emily Deveraux
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Well, that doesn't change the fact that socialism is an economic model. It is the economy of communism, but may not require all of the community and democracy of communism, at every level.

This equality is not a matter-of-fact part of socialism, either, since the work-community may democratically choose to distribute its capital in a stepped fashion (it may not, but this does not change a thing).

As to the CSA itself, the most common questions asked by Beddgelens relate to the nature of the alliances mentioned. These alliances between nations and economies... are they the opportunist sort made by leaders? The Commonwealth has never committed itself to an international alliance or treaty for fear that it would tie the billions of individual minds of Beth Gellert somehow to the will of a single foreign leader or of an associated special interest group.

Igovians no doubt are present in Green Sun in an effort to spread knowledge of democracy and of socialism versus the lies and trechery of social-democrats and other falacy.

Perhaps you are correct to an extent. We'll have to review their to rewqrite it more appropriately, but Green Sun's stance on Socialism being a form of government and a way of life and not an economic model stays the same.