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I thought about this once so i'll need some help in clearing up a few things, oki the basic idea is that the Red robot that Luke buy's from the Jawa's never burst's into flames, R2 D2 is eventually smelted and the Death Star's plan goe's on unhindered, the Princess is never freed and Yavin is destroyed, the Rebel Alliance seem's to be all but lost, until that is an extremist Wookie group take control of the Death Star, they manage to get over Corusant and blow the Imperial hell hole to smithereen's, the Emporer is killed in the blast and Anarchy consumes the Empire, and now for the RPing bit, there are a few select sides as the following

Wookie Extremist's (Chewbacca) (Kashykk, Dagobah, Endor)
Republican Organa (Leia Organa) (Hoth, Naboo, Sullust)
Reformed Jedi Council (Luke Skywalker) (Mon-Calamari, Dantooine, Bothawui)
Vader's Sith Empire (Darth Vader) (Bakura, Bpfassh, Korriban)
Smugglers Union (Lando Calrissian) (Bespin, Kessel, Tatooine)
Imperial Ex-Army (Grand Admiral Thrawn) (Terran-1, Kuat, Eriadu)
Droid Confederacy (IG-88) (Geonosis, Mustafar, Nemoidia)
The New Empire (Admiral Daala) (The Maw Installation, Correllia, Thyferra)

Those in Bold have been taken

Other Worlds can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_of_Star_Wars)

1. No Godmodding
2. No Planet Destroying Superlaser's
3. Each faction is limited to 3 Jedi/Sith
4. No main characters other than the ones mentioned
5. Only Star War's tech
6. Other Planet's must be RP'd to be taken
7. 1 Non Star Wars planet can be allowed with permission
8. Non Taken Planet's must have someone RP the resistance
9. One small scale Superlaser is allowed per Faction

(more to come)

so any comments, ideas or suggestions please :p

OOC: If Princess Leia is never freed, how does the Empire know the Rebel base is on Yavin? They only find out by tracking the Millennium Falcon, and it's stated several times that Leia would never tell them voluntary.

(OOC: don't they drug Liea, huh, i need to watch the film's again cos i'm sure they drug her)

(OOC: don't they drug Liea, huh, i need to watch the film's again cos i'm sure they drug her)

OOC: Yep. Perhaps she told in this one 0_o

OOC: I'd join, and probably be part of the Imperial Ex-army (or neutral), although my nation is considerably small, and I RP as my home planet being of my own creation, and I do not one in the SW universe.

OOC: I'd join, and probably be part of the Imperial Ex-army (or neutral), although my nation is considerably small, and I RP as my home planet being of my own creation, and I do not one in the SW universe.

huh, kinda defeat's the point of an alternate Star Wars universe RP, if you could name some planets then please do.

huh, kinda defeat's the point of an alternate Star Wars universe RP, if you could name some planets then please do.

OOC: Well, I kinda RP as stumbling along a planet worthy of colonization (although with a need of a little terraforming) in the Outer Rim Territories, and thus I fit into the SW galaxy, but the planet, Terran-1 (I know, not very creative) is not in any SW literature or anything.

OOC: Well, I kinda RP as stumbling along a planet worthy of colonization (although with a need of a little terraforming) in the Outer Rim Territories, and thus I fit into the SW galaxy, but the planet, Terran-1 (I know, not very creative) is not in any SW literature or anything.

righty doodle skip, but if you could name some SW planets then please do.

oh and do you want to be Imperial Ex Army?

I guess so.

(I don't know any SW planets that could house my population, hence why i made up a fake planet, but it shouldn't be a problem anyway since I'll just be hanging out in the known SW universe anyway and the planet would be rarely mentioned.)

(OOC: don't they drug Liea, huh, i need to watch the film's again cos i'm sure they drug her)

OOC: Um, yeah, but she doesn't tell them anything. When she was rescued in ANH, she was scheduled to be executed because she wouldn't talk. The Empire only found out about Yavin because they put a tracking device on the Falcon.

OOC: Um, yeah, but she doesn't tell them anything. When she was rescued in ANH, she was scheduled to be executed because she wouldn't talk. The Empire only found out about Yavin because they put a tracking device on the Falcon.

yeah i'm watching the film right now, oki so brief plot hole filler, a Rebel task-force attempts to release Leia, they suceed but a high ranking Rebel officer get's captured in the process, he is easily broken by Vader and reveals the location of the Rebel base.

Boom

Can I have Hapan, that is sorta cheating since its a cluster and not a single planet so I can see how you wouldn't want me to have that. If I can't have it, then I'll take...

The Maw Installation
Correllia
Fondor (pretty obscure, so the following quote from answers.com)

Fondor is a Mid Rim world famous for its orbital shipyards. Darth Vader's Executor-class Super Star Destroyer was constructed over Fondor. The planet became a target during the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, though a blast from Centerpoint Station destroyed a portion of the enemy fleet, saving Fondor at the cost of the Hapan war fleet also caught in the blast. Fondor continued to supply the Galactic Alliance with starships in the war.

Updated

but what do you want to call yourself and what is your leaders name

ooc: R2-D2 gets smelted? Man, this alternate SW thing sucks!

Admiral Daala, The New Empire.
Do you get what forces would normally be at your places when you start, like Kuat would have a fleet of Star Destroyers and Mon Calamari would have lots of MC 80 Cruisers. When you say no superlasers, does that include ones that can't destroy planets like that on the Eclispe or Sovereign?

hmm good question, i'm gonna say that for RPing your pop use your Nations Pop, for Fleet's it depends, i'll work out a way to calculate fleets don't worry.

EDIT: only planet destruction is illegal

Hmm, is it too late to change one planet, I just realized one planet that really needs to be claimed. Can I trade Fondor for Thyferra?

So we aren't doing an actual alternate history if we use any of our nations stats are we, could you explain a little more how this works if we are using our nations instead of the SW places.

oki cos i know everyone in real life isn't a Star Wars nut who knows everything and anything (i know i'm not) to do with Star Wars so population for Star Wars planets would be so very difficult to find out, so a simple answer is just to use the nations pop, i know this will be a downer for any of the smaller nations but it comes at a price.

but in SW terms it is merely due to the chaos caused after the Empire fell, it would result in mass migration causing some planets to grow in population and others to shrink, therfore the pop would be undeterminable.

OK, another question. Is planetary destruction not allowed or superlasers, or both. Did didn't check if you changed it, but is it alright if I claim Thyferra.

Thyferra is yours, plus all Superlasers that can destroy planets are illegal, Small scale Superlasers are allowed but only 1 at any time.

What about World Devastators, Sun Crushers and Galaxy Guns or the Centerpoint Station. Can we use any of those?

if i knew what they were i could help you, but as it is my knowledge of the Star Wars galaxy extends only to the borders of the 6 films

Stardestroyer.net Descriptions (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Special/Special2.html), most if not all of them were developed at the Maw facility along with the Death Star. Based on your rulings there is currently a Death Star prototype and a Sun Crusher at the Maw, though as GM you may change that. The DS prototype doesn't have a full power laser, and is only the superstructure without the rest of the hull. Ref. Jedi Academy Trilogy. The Maw Installation was completely cut off from the rest of the galaxy, so nothing that transpired outside was know inside until Han Solo and Kyp Durron went in. In this alt history Admiral Daala looks around and decides to seize Thyferra(because of bacta) and Correllia(because of shipyards/Centerpoint).

centrepoint station i'll allow, but the others are just way too powerful

OK, tell me when you have a ruling on the forces present thing.

*Is sad that doens't have the Sun Crusher*

Republican Organa

do the wokkiees still conntrol the death star

good question, i think ultimately the answer is going to be no, it is however possible that it too has been smalted as with R2, the maitenance cost's of such a Space-Station would be too great for any faction now in a recession

when will the rping start. are we to get an off site forum for this

I am going off site, but i would like a few more members first

*Feels a burst of honest coming on, can't resist*
Nooooooooo,

Fine, since you're banning superweapons and declared the World Devastators too powerful then you have to ban the Centerpoint Station. It is more powerful then the Death Star and Galaxy Gun, combined and could destory either of them easily. It can cause stars to go nova or supernova just like the Sun Crusher but without the having to be there part. In fact the Centerpoint Station is the most powerful of the weapons listed, but can I have at least one World Devastator. They're the weakest of the ships that can destroy planets of ones listed.

deal. If someone captures kimoania (you know the cloning planet in II) do you get to control of the cloning facilities there.

also, can you use Bounty Hunter even the ones in the movie.

huh, and i though that the Centerpoint just moved things round, ah well, 1 of any of those superweapons only if so then no other superweapons.

who'd of thunk doing an alternative Star Wars RP would be so difficult, oki on bounty hunters and fleets:

money revolves taxing, the amount of tax you set on your nation determines the amount of Credits you recieve, as is on the folowing

0%= 0 Cr
25%= 20,000 Cr
50%= 40,000 Cr
75%= 60,000 Cr (wartime)
100%= 80,000 Cr

at wartime your tax rate will always be 75% unless it is already higher, bear in mind if you sustain a high tax rate for a long period of time then you will have riots on your hands it is of course inevitable, each planet produces a revenue and can be taxed seperatly from the others.

Fleet's

Small Vessels (such as medium transports and Imperial transports) 10,000 Cr
Medium Vessels (such as Victory class star destroyers and Corvettes) 30,000 Cr
Large Vessels (such as Imperial class star destroyers and Mon Calamari Cruisers) 50,000 Cr
Heavy Vessels (such as Super star destroyers and Bulwark cruisers) 80,000 Cr
Super Vessels (such as World devastators and Centerpoint station) 100,000 Cr

Fighters (in sets of 100)

Small (such as Y-wings and Tie Fighters) 10,000 Cr
Medium (such as X-wings and Tie Advanced) 20,000 Cr
Large (such as B-Wings and Tie Bombers) 40,000 Cr
Heavy (Such as A-Wings and Tie-D) 60,000 Cr

if you are unsure of a vessels placement then ask me

Bounty Hunters are not allowed as most have joined up with the Smugglers

So what of kimonia

So what of kimonia

tricky subject, i would say yes, BUT it would require around 10,000 Cr a year to create 1,000 clones.

tricky subject, i would say yes, BUT it would require around 10,000 Cr a year to create 1,000 clones.
good good and this would also mean that the supply of clones would be cut off from the empire

good good and this would also mean that the supply of clones would be cut off from the empire

err, how so?

they would not have a place that could supply them with clones and so they would only have the existing clones that they have made. They would then have to recruit people to fight for them and then they would slowly lose support of the people. SO, this would be a very important aquistion by the Rep. Organa

they would not have a place that could supply them with clones and so they would only have the existing clones that they have made. They would then have to recruit people to fight for them and then they would slowly lose support of the people. SO, this would be a very important aquistion by the Rep. Organa

Too bad I’m not FT. This looks a awesome, and my nation is really suited to the Sith Empire. :(

What about bacta, it is the only known cure all and nearly universally used. It is also about the only thing used on military ships, can I trade other people bacta and get money that way? After all, I'm the only one with bacta production in the entire galaxy.

What about bacta, it is the only known cure all and nearly universally used. It is also about the only thing used on military ships, can I trade other people bacta and get money that way? After all, I'm the only one with bacta production in the entire galaxy.

Another tricky choice, I am going to say yes, BUT bear in mind that there may be a lot of wars/smugglers trying to get at you, same goes for Kessel,

Undelia do you want the Sith then?

Undelia do you want the Sith then?

You bet your collectable action figures I do! :D

You bet your collectable action figures I do! :D

ironically i actually have the Limited Edition Mos-Eisley Alien only sold in Canada :rolleyes: , oh and could you choose one more planet

Well, I know that Bakura is where the whole Ssi Ruke thing went down, but its uselfullness escapes me. I have no idea what Bpfassh is. I’ll need some more information about these planets before I choose another one.

All Worlds can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_of_Star_Wars)

You have already laid out how the monetary and production system is going to work. Would controlling the planet of Kuat have any effect on this, considering that it is home to the largest military shipbuilding corporation in the Star Wars Galaxy?

is this enough to get started

i would like more members before we begin, just to get a reliable member base, as for Kuat, despite having resources or whatever you would still need to spend money on workers maintenance and droids, ship production costs will stay the same.

Well, if the stats of the planet don’t really effect anything, I’d rather have Korriban (effectively the Sith homeworld). Besides it fits Darth Vader:

“This technological terror you have constructed is nothing compared to the power of the Force”

i would like more members before we begin, just to get a reliable member base, as for Kuat, despite having resources or whatever you would still need to spend money on workers maintenance and droids, ship production costs will stay the same.
just like kimonia

just like kimonia

Kimona still requires Cr to produce clones, just like everyone else requires Cr to produce Ships

Kimona still requires Cr to produce clones, just like everyone else requires Cr to produce Ships
hehe but itscrews over the empire muhahahaha

Kimona is still open at the moment, so i expect that their will be a great battle for it.

I suppose we must assume that Grand Moff Tarkin perished at the hands of the wookies, considering that Admiral Daala was loyal to him. Also, she would have a hard time gaining the respect of her fellow Imperials, taking into consideration that, while she was a skilled tactician, she only had her position of Admiral because she was Tarkin’s mistress.

I suppose we must assume that Grand Moff Tarkin perished at the hands of the wookies, considering that Admiral Daala was loyal to him.

well in the words of Han Solo

Han: That's cos a droid won't rip your arm out

I suppose though, that any high ranking military officials left would have either been on Corusant, The Death Star, or in the service of Darth Vader, thus leaving her as the only possible leader left.

You did say that there could be no main characters other the ones mentioned. I hope you are not including Admiral Ozzel, General Veers and Captain (later Admiral) Piett in that catergory, as they are noted members of the fleet under Vader’s command.

You did say that there could be no main characters other the ones mentioned. I hope you are not including Admiral Ozzel, General Veers and Captain (later Admiral) Piett in that catergory, as they are noted members of the fleet under Vader’s command.

this is an Alternate history, meaning that the flutter of a butterfly's wings has caused mass vibrations, all the above officers may have either,

Been choked
Been Demoted
Transferred
Killed
Never signed up
Shipwrecked
etc

Well, after some quick research and thinking.

Ozzel would probably have gotten what was coming to him quicker, thus the choking.
We can assume that the Accuser the ship that Admiral Piett was in command of within Darth Vader’s fleet was lost/deserted, because I assume the pretty much all of the Imperial fleet are gone at this point.
As for Veers, he was on the Death Star when it blew up on the traditional timeline, but escaped in a shuttle. We can assume the wookies ripped him to shreds.

Now, could you explain what this Greivious Mk II is all about?

Now, could you explain what this Greivious Mk II is all about?

the list of factions needed more droids, and sinse we all know that the top three Star Wars droids are that of R2-D2, IG-88 and Grievious, Grievious is dead R2 is smelted, infact i might change Grievious MkII to IG-88

Considering that IG-88 did have an insidious plan to take over the galaxy, that would be appropriate.

Now, tell us about how Obi-Wan came to found the reformed Jedi Council, and what it is exactly.

Considering that IG-88 did have an insidious plan to take over the galaxy, that would be appropriate.

Now, tell us about how Obi-Wan came to found the reformed Jedi Council, and what it is exactly.

consider that Alderaan has around 6 billion people (i think) when that was destroyed it made Obi wan feel a little sick, now consider Coruscant it has a Quadrillion people on it, wouldn't that make you want to reform the Jedi and attempt to take out Vader?

consider that Alderaan has around 6 billion people (i think) when that was destroyed it made Obi wan feel a little sick, now consider Coruscant it has a Quadrillion people on it, wouldn't that make you want to reform the Jedi and attempt to take out Vader?

I guess I would. But wouldn’t I take Luke with me?

I guess I would. But wouldn’t I take Luke with me?

Luke was going to join the Empire when R2-D2 took him to Obi Wan, if that never happened then Luke would be lost somewhere in the inumerable ranks of the Empire, that is before it was destroyed, so now he's either dead or someones cohort.

Actually, Obi-Wan would have intervened before he let Luke join the Empire. He was responsible for protecting him after all, and they did know each other before episode IV.

Actually, Obi-Wan would have intervened before he let Luke join the Empire. He was responsible for protecting him after all, and they did know each other before episode IV.

*racks brain trying to cover plothole*

i've got it, Obi Wan says to Luke "I'm too old for this!" And so Obi Wan leaves the reformed council in the hands of Luke, I'll change the front page accordingly.

i've got it, Obi Wan says to Luke "I'm too old for this!" And so Obi Wan leaves the reformed council in the hands of Luke, I'll change the front page accordingly.

That is a good idea. Though you could probably leave Obi-Wan around, so Vader can kill him later. :D Plus, I guess you still need someone to teach Luke. You did say that each faction could have three Jedi/Sith after all.

That is a good idea. Though you could probably leave Obi-Wan around, so Vader can kill him later. :D Plus, I guess you still need someone to teach Luke. You did say that each faction could have three Jedi/Sith after all.

I could, but chances are at this point Obi Wan has probably already come at one with the force, he could have taught Luke, and maybe a few encounters with Yoda, and Vader may have taught him to the point of Master.

I could, but chances are at this point Obi Wan has probably already come at one with the force, he could have taught Luke, and maybe a few encounters with Yoda, and Vader may have taught him to the point of Master.

So, I guess chronologically we’re talking at least three to seven years after Yavin. As far as when this thing takes place.

So, I guess chronologically we’re talking at least three to seven years after Yavin. As far as when this thing takes place.

yeah, that makes sense

That’s about how long it would take to organize these new political powers, anyway.
I'll work on a time line.

That’s about how long it would take to organize these new political powers, anyway.
I'll work on a time line.

can you do Invision board skins?

-Princess Leia Organa is rescued be Rebel Commandos. Vader interrogates one that does not escape. He reveals the location of the Rebel base at Yavin.

-Yavin is destroyed by Grand Moff Tarkin.

- Chewbacca, moved by the plight of his enslaved brethren on a smuggling run to Kashykk organizes a resistance effort. After much fighting pushes out the Empire.

- Obi-Wan senses destruction of Alderan and begins training Luke.

-Grand Moff Tarkin arrives at Kashykk and threatens to destroy the planet if the wookies do not surrender. Han Solo and Chewbacca feign capture aboard the Millennium Falcon. They are able to shut down the Death Star’s exterior defenses, but not before Solo meets his death at the Force grip of Darth Vader. Within the hour thousands of wookies board the Death Star and begin slaughtering Imperial troops, including Grand Moff Tarkin and his command crew. Many officers and storm troopers surrender, pledging their service to the wookies. Chewbacca is made High Chief of all the tribes of Kashykk. Darth Vader narrowly escapes in a shuttle which make a blind jump into hyper space.

-IG-88 brakes free of his programming limitations and begins spreading his independent thought processing virus to other droids on Mustafar, where he was previously deployed as a body guard. The droids take over the technology reliant planet in mere weeks. The Empire is too distracted to do anything about it.

-Leia Organa takes control of the Rebel Alliance and heads to Hoth.

What do you think, so far?

can you do Invision board skins?

No, but I am pretty sure my brother can. Can he be bothered to? I don’t know.

What do you think, so far?

Me likey

No, but I am pretty sure my brother can. Can he be bothered to? I don’t know.

I was just wandering if you wanted to be an Admin?

I thought about this once so i'll need some help in clearing up a few things, oki the basic idea is that the Red robot that Luke buy's from the Jawa's never burst's into flames, R2 D2 is eventually smelted and the Death Star's plan goe's on unhindered, the Princess is never freed and Yavin is destroyed, the Rebel Alliance seem's to be all but lost, until that is an extremist Wookie group take control of the Death Star, they manage to get over Corusant and blow the Imperial hell hole to smithereen's, the Emporer is killed in the blast and Anarchy consumes the Empire, and now for the RPing bit, there are a few select sides as the following

Wookie Extremist's (Chewbacca) (Kashykk, Dagobah, Endor)
Republican Organa (Leia Organa) (Hoth, Naboo, Sullust)
Reformed Jedi Council (Luke Skywalker) (Mon-Calamari, Dantooine, Bothawui)
Vader's Sith Empire (Darth Vader) (Bakura, Bpfassh, Korriban)
Smugglers Union (Lando Calrissian) (Bespin, Kessel, Tatooine)
Imperial Ex-Army (Grand Admiral Thrawn) (Terran-1, Kuat, Eriadu)
Droid Confederacy (IG-88) (Geonosis, Mustafar, Nemoidia)
The New Empire (Admiral Daala) (The Maw Installation, Correllia, Thyferra)

so any comments, ideas or suggestions please :p

One comment: sorry to burst your bubble, but while I'm not saying that you can't write whatever you want, this could never happen. I'll explain, "faction by faction."

How exactly could this "Wookie Extremist" group get on the death star, much less take it over? They're all enslaved by the Trandoshans on their homeworld! That being said, why would they even have to be extremists, all wookies hate the empire...and also...why wouldn't the Empire just shoot down the death star before it makes its way to corescant? So many inconsistancies here...my head's spinning.

Leia's Republic? Leia would die if she wasn't saved by Luke, and since Luke never got the message, Leia was probably killed because she wouldn't give info. Even if for some godforsaken reason the wookies did what you say they would do, the Empire would still kill Leia, possibly seeing it as some sort of rescue.

Luke's Jedi Council? This is by far the WORST idea of them all. Luke wouldn't be a Jedi! Luke only found Obi-wan because R2-D2 led him there. Luke would have been killed with his aunt and uncle by stormtroopers. Even if Luke did survive and somehow become a Jedi (this COULD NOT happen...but still) he would be the only one! A Luke, Obi-Wan, and Yoda council (although yoda would soon die because he's old) wouldn't be much!

Vader's Sith Empire? I thought you said the Empire was in anarchy? Wouldn't Vader just assume the throne and search for a dark apprentice? Perhaps Luke if he isn't dead yet?

Smuggler's Union? Oh...not Lando... *cowers in fear* Besides, Jabba would have killed Han Solo, and Lando doesn't have the Falcon.

Imperial Ex-Army? Um...they'd still be with Vader...

Droid Confederacy? The droids are dead, but even if they aren't, IG-88 is. He got owned by Dash Rendar, and still would have regardless of Luke.

The New Empire? How many Empires do you have here? No, there would be one. If the Death Star killed the capital and Sidious, Vader would gather his fleet, destroy the Death Star (it went down kinda easy) and then assume control of the Empire. There would be no three different empires running around.

Your story is so flawed its disgusting. Now, if you want to continue, be my guest, but it makes absolutely NO SENSE AT ALL. Have a nice day.

- Darth Vader’s shuttle emerges from Hyperspace at Dagobah. A wookie controlled Victory Class Star Destroyer commanded by Chewbacca seeking revenge for Solo’s death, is not far behind. Vader’s shuttle lands on the surface of the planet, carrying only a minimal crew. Chewbacca and a band of wookies land nearby and begin combing the swamp for Vader. The furry creatures take a liking to the planet and decide to mark it for colonization. They encounter Yoda, and Chewbacca remembers his old Jedi friend. The manhunt for Vader continues, even as the Dark Lord of the Sith stumbles upon the tomb of the last Bpfasshi Dark Jedi, where secrets of the old Sith order were made clear to him by the specter of the long dead Dark Side user. Vader immediately flees the planet and heads for Korriban. Yoda decides his time on Dagobah has ended and leaves with Chewbacca.

-Wookie technician working on the Death Star discover plans for a second Death Star at Endor. Chewbacca’s Star Destroyer (now called the Han) meets the Death Star at this newly established construction sight. Easily defeating the small Imperial detachment, the wookies find the Ewoks agreeable and mark the Fourth moon of Endor for colonization.

-Leia Organa quietly extends Rebel operations to Sullust.

-IG-88’s virus infects Nemoidian droidships scheduled to deliver fuel to Nemoidia. Within a number of weeks, droids control the homeworld of the Nemoidians.

- Luke Skywalker’s aunt and uncle die of natural causes. Luke sells the family farm and most of his possessions. He and Obi-Wan travel to Dantooine, where they begin conducting an excavation of the long buried Jedi Temple there.

-Darth Vader arrives at Korriban and begins delving into the ways of the ancient Sith.

I was just wandering if you wanted to be an Admin?

Sure.

@Steel Butterfly, we are in the process of explaining how all this goes down. Also note, there was more than one IG-88, the Empire is filled with power hungry people ready to seize power, Luke knew Obi-Wan before Episode IV, and all the other stuff you said wouldn’t have happened.

How exactly could this "Wookie Extremist" group get on the death star, much less take it over? They're all enslaved by the Trandoshans on their homeworld! That being said, why would they even have to be extremists, all wookies hate the empire...and also...why wouldn't the Empire just shoot down the death star before it makes its way to corescant? So many inconsistancies here...my head's spinning.

Please read the reformed timeline above , as for the Empire not detroying it, well the Empires fighters are, to put it nicely, shit

Leia's Republic? Leia would die if she wasn't saved by Luke, and since Luke never got the message, Leia was probably killed because she wouldn't give info. Even if for some godforsaken reason the wookies did what you say they would do, the Empire would still kill Leia, possibly seeing it as some sort of rescue.

Rebel Commandoes came in and rescued Leia before the Wookies came, as mentioned in the above reformed timeline

Luke's Jedi Council? This is by far the WORST idea of them all. Luke wouldn't be a Jedi! Luke only found Obi-wan because R2-D2 led him there. Luke would have been killed with his aunt and uncle by stormtroopers. Even if Luke did survive and somehow become a Jedi (this COULD NOT happen...but still) he would be the only one! A Luke, Obi-Wan, and Yoda council (although yoda would soon die because he's old) wouldn't be much!

but whats stopping Obi Wan finding Luke? Thats right nothing, as mentioned in above reformed timeline Obi Wan finds Luke after realising that Alderaan was destroyed

Vader's Sith Empire? I thought you said the Empire was in anarchy? Wouldn't Vader just assume the throne and search for a dark apprentice? Perhaps Luke if he isn't dead yet?

the Empire is in anarchy, yes Vader could take the throne if it hadn't been eviscerated by the Death Star, Vader has started a faction attempting to rebuild the Empire in HIS name

Smuggler's Union? Oh...not Lando... *cowers in fear* Besides, Jabba would have killed Han Solo, and Lando doesn't have the Falcon.

yes Lando, he has a steady income from Bespin and a quite considerable reputation, so what if he doesn't have the Falcon, yes Jabba would have killed Han if Han hadn't already died on the Death star (see above reformed timeline)

Imperial Ex-Army? Um...they'd still be with Vader...

remember the scene from the first film in the War room when one of the officers claims that the Force is useless, not everyone in the Empire fears the Force, so why, WHY would they join Vader?

Droid Confederacy? The droids are dead, but even if they aren't, IG-88 is. He got owned by Dash Rendar, and still would have regardless of Luke.

IG-88 may have died in the Star War's universe but not this one, as is above in the reformed time line, also who says it's the original bots? It could be a new army

The New Empire? How many Empires do you have here? No, there would be one. If the Death Star killed the capital and Sidious, Vader would gather his fleet, destroy the Death Star (it went down kinda easy) and then assume control of the Empire. There would be no three different empires running around.

what about those secret Imperial forces in the Maw? They would not be influenced by Vader

Your story is so flawed its disgusting. Now, if you want to continue, be my guest, but it makes absolutely NO SENSE AT ALL. Have a nice day.

as I have displayed above yes, yes it does make sense, and thank I will have a VERY nice day

remember the scene from the first film in the War room when one of the officers claims that the Force is useless, not everyone in the Empire fears the Force, so why, WHY would they join Vader?

as I have displayed above yes, yes it does make sense, and thank I will have a VERY nice day

All you've displayed in your lack of knowledge about how people act and think and that you love your idea too much to see how ridiculous it sounds. Still, as I've said, no one can stop you from writing this...so go ahead...

There is one blaring problem amist all the new problems you've presented in your response however: why, WHY would they be under the Emperor in the first place? If you say that him being the dark lord of the sith doesn't matter, which it does, he's still the default leader. Vader's still the second in command, regardless of the fact that he's a sith.

You're making the characters of the SW universe act how you want them to, not how the characters themselves would act or how people in real life act. The realistic value of this story is zero, and if readers cannot relate to the story's characters, as what happens often in stories such as these, then the story flops.

@Steel Butterfly, we are in the process of explaining how all this goes down. Also note, there was more than one IG-88, the Empire is filled with power hungry people ready to seize power, Luke knew Obi-Wan before Episode IV, and all the other stuff you said wouldn’t have happened.

1. Just because you give it an explanation doesn't automatically make it make sense...

2. When have you seen, outside of the Sith, that the Empire is power hungry and ready to seize power? They all seem scared shitless of being choked to death by Vader.

3. Luke didn't know Obi-Wan before Episode IV. He couldn't remember Obi-Wan from when he was a newborn, and he didn't have a reason or desire to visit "crazy old Ben."

4. And way to sum up everything else that you can't defend in your last sentence.

There is one blaring problem amist all the new problems you've presented in your response however: why, WHY would they be under the Emperor in the first place? If you say that him being the dark lord of the sith doesn't matter, which it does, he's still the default leader. Vader's still the second in command, regardless of the fact that he's a sith.

Actually, you are wrong. It doesn’t matter who the Dark Lord of the Sith is. The Dark Lord after Palpatine (a women I forgot her name) had very little power, while the military basically took over the Imperial remnant which fractured into several competing warlords. They follow the Emperor, not because he is the Dark Lord of the Sith, but because he is the Emperor. Also, Darth Vader was not regarded as the de facto second in command until after the event in “Shadows of the Empire” which will never take place on this time line.

3. Luke didn't know Obi-Wan before Episode IV. He couldn't remember Obi-Wan from when he was a newborn, and he didn't have a reason or desire to visit "crazy old Ben."

If you have ever bothered to read the novels, you would know that, yes, yes he did.

Undelia, half of your argument was agreeing with me...

...and EU is crap anyhow. Whatever.

I don't have a vast knowledge of the Star Wars univerese so i think i've done quite well considering the abilities given to me, if you don't want to play then all you had to say was, "I don't like this idea." Really there were was no need to go off and start to rip shred's in our plans, to ruin the potential of this RP, but you had to go your own way, tell me have you ruined any RP's of late?

Are the Wookiees taken?

I don't know much about Star Wars other than the movies. I assume also that Yoda and the Wookiees allied with the Ewoks on Endor? Cuz that would just be cool.

Parthini']Are the Wookiees taken?

I don't know much about Star Wars other than the movies. I assume also that Yoda and the Wookiees allied with the Ewoks on Endor? Cuz that would just be cool.

Added, also the Invision (http://s12.invisionfree.com/SW_Alt_History/index.php?act=idx) Board is ready

Parthini']I don't know much about Star Wars other than the movies. I assume also that Yoda and the Wookiees allied with the Ewoks on Endor? Cuz that would just be cool.

Yeah, they did, so I guess it is cool. :cool: I'll post 3 AY in a bit. Nice to have you aboard.

@Kaduna .Going to have to take issue with the “every faction has a Jedi master” rule. I don’t see the Droid Confederacy, the Smuggler’s Union, the Imperial Ex-Army, or The New Empire obtaining force users. It seems contrary to their natures.

@Kaduna .Going to have to take issue with the “every faction has a Jedi master” rule. I don’t see the Droid Confederacy, the Smuggler’s Union, the Imperial Ex-Army, or The New Empire obtaining force users. It seems contrary to their natures.

hmmm good point, i'll change that now

who wants to rp as the Kamino resitiance

me

then get on the forums

-The Empire amasses its forces at Corusant. In order to strike the wookie threat as hard as possible. All the ships from the vast Imperial Navy assemble at the capital planet. All except for a Star Destroyers at Maw Station, one at Vice-Admiral Thrawn’s outbound station on the tiny world of Terran- 1, and the Executor, which mysteriously disobeys orders and heads for Korriban.

- The wookie fleet, having cracked Imperial codes thanks to the traitors, know of the impeding attack. The Death Star heads for Corusant.

-Geonosis droid technicians, invent a “vaccine” for IG-88’s virus. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work on already infected droids. IG-88 leads a direct assault on Geonosis, utilizing his makeshift droid army, and several stolen merchant vessels. He is unable to stop the vaccine from being shipped off world, but the cunning droid takes control of one of the many now-abandoned droid factories, and begins mass producing a real droid army. The planet falls under his control in a very short amount of time. IG-88 declares the birth of The Droid Confederacy.

- The Death Star comes out of hyperspace in Corusant space and immediately all Imperial ships begin firing on it. Chewbacca panics and orders the Death Star to fire on the Imperial fleet from aboard the bridge of the Han. Within minutes the Death Star fires blindly into the enemy fleet, and hits Corusant. The blast and debris not only snuff out the existence of countless beings on the planet’s surface, but obliterates the fleet surrounding the capital. The pieces of destroyed space ships slam into the Death Star, causing massive damage to the already damaged space station. It explodes, badly damaging the Han in the process. The damaged battle ship then jumps to light speed and limps back to Kashykk, with a mournful Chewbacca and Yoda on board.

-Many planets collapse into rebellion. Most dispose of their regional governor. Entrepreneur Lando Calrissian takes advantage of the situation by organizing the hutts of Tantooine, and the revolting miners on Kessel into the Smuggler’s Union, a federation of sorts to protect the economic interests of the parties involved.

- Obi-Wan Kenobi announces the formation of a new Jedi order, to be based in the newly excavated Jedi enclave. Surprisingly, the revolting planet of Dantooine looks to the new order for leadership. Saying “I’m to old for this sort of thing,” Obi-Wan retains his status as head of the Jedi Order, but a Senate is set up to officially rule. To appease the people of Dantooine, Luke Skywalker is made Chief of State. The nearby planets of Mon-Calamari and Bothawui quickly rush to join this new affiliation to stand as a common defense against the anarchy that was developing elsewhere. This Jedi influenced republic was named Planets Under the Protection of The Reformed Jedi Council, or just the Jedi Council for short.

-Another to take advantage of the chaos was Leia Organa who declared the birth of a New Republic. At the behest of the people of this new republic, Leia reluctantly lent her name to the new faction. It would be called The Republican Organa, or simply the Republic. The democracy loving people of Naboo quickly joined, hoping to someday realize the glory of The Old Republic.

-The Executor never made it to Korriban. As to why, no one knows. But regardless, Darth Vader, confident in his new knowledge of the Dark Side, declared himself the new Dark Lord of the Sith and announced a new empire, Vader’s Sith Empire. Within days, Bpfassh, with its Dark Side past, declared fealty to this new Empire. Also, the planet of Bakura, desperate to find an ally, swore fealty to the Dark Lord.

-On the edge of the Galaxy, Vice-Admiral Thrawn revealed his secret promotion to Grand Admiral and departed Terran-1 for Kuat where he used his connections with the ship-building industry to effectively seize control of the planet. Tarkin’s homeworld of Eriadu soon followed suit, declaring allegiance to the Grand Admiral. Thrawn then declared that his holdings were no longer part of the Empire, but of its military only. Thus was born The Imperial Ex-Military.

-From the Maw Installation Admiral Daala received the news of what was going on throughout the Galaxy. Moving quickly, she secured the Bacta producing planet of Thyferra and the trade planet Correllia. Both were too week after revolting against the Empire to resist. Admiral Daala then officially declared the birth of The New Empire.

Alright. Done with the timeline. Kaduna, what do you think about changing the rules for the Sith Empire and The Jedi Council so that they can have as many Jedi as they can pay for, just only three masters, considering that these factions are effectively based arounf Force Users. In fact, we should probably try to think of a special way in which each faction can “break the rules” so to speak. For instance, the Droid Confederacy require neither food nor water, and do not feel pain.

Why didn't the Lusankya escape Coruscant? The Death Star doesn't move fast, as per the first movie, and the Lusankya would have had plenty of time to escape.

Why didn't the Lusankya escape Coruscant? The Death Star doesn't move fast, as per the first movie, and the Lusankya would have had plenty of time to escape.

Are you saying it would have had time to rip out of the surface, leave the atmosphere, and jump to hyperspace in a matter of minutes?

A thought, Kaduna. You should edit the first post to show which nation controls each faction.

In the Krytos Trap the Lusankya did just that.

In the Krytos Trap the Lusankya did just that.

Dang. I guess we’ll just have to assume that Isard didn’t react quickly enough and the ship was destroyed as it was trying to leave the atmosphere. A ship like that existing would seriously misbalance things.

That ship was supposed to be the Emperors personal escape vehicle, kept ready at all times. It might be fun to have a random SSD out there, you could choose an unclaimed system and if someone attacks that system they find Isard. She can't be at Thyferra since I have that, but that way later on in the game when neutrals become scarce a rash move could bring an SSD down on you.

That ship was supposed to be the Emperors personal escape vehicle, kept ready at all times. It might be fun to have a random SSD out there, you could choose an unclaimed system and if someone attacks that system they find Isard. She can't be at Thyferra since I have that, but that way later on in the game when neutrals become scarce a rash move could bring an SSD down on you.

I guess we can say the Lasynka escaped, however, the Executor is already out there somewhere. I can’t seem to come up with a way that it would have been destroyed. Perhaps both of those ships could be involved with an event down the rode dealing with The Reborn Emperor. His clones are still out there somewhere. I forgot what planet they are on, though.

Byss, I considered claiming that planet but I forgot that the Emperor had clones there. I only remembered that it was a major fleet base, so I guess I outsmarted myself by claiming Correllia.

Byss, I considered claiming that planet but I forgot that the Emperor had clones there. I only remembered that it was a major fleet base, so I guess I outsmarted myself by claiming Correllia.

I guess you did.

*Death Star Bump*

*Planet Devastator Bump*

*World Devastator bump, as there is no such thing as the Planet Devastator*

*World Devastator bump, as there is no such thing as the Planet Devastator*

Well, technically, neither exists. :D