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Hoth Manufacturing
Press Release
Apex, the Hoth system

After an extensive period of rigorous testing, the Hoth Manufacturing Corporation has officially announced the release of Model G Augury –class personal infantry armorsuits. Utilizing top-of-the-line materials, the most quality construction, and unique technologies never before seen on the battlefront, Model G armor is arguably one of the most advanced ever produced. Whether you want to purchase enough to outfit your whole army, or simply buy a few sets for a special forces unit, Model G armor is an excellent complement to any military force. Read on to discover the incredible innovations Model G has to offer and how this armor can bulk up your nation’s infantry strength.

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Model G Augury -class Personal Defense System

The Model G Augury armorsuit is generously equipped and designed for survival and victory. Ideal for any type of soldier in a combat zone, even support and logistical staff, it is perhaps the most adaptable armor ever produced and considerably increases the wearer’s chances of survival in battle. Here are some of the technologies the Augury employs.

Dyneema Repulsion Armor: One of the most noticeable features of Model G armor, in a combat situation, is its unique defenses, some of the most advanced ever produced. This is done by a system called Dyneema/Magnetic Repulsion. Though advanced, reinforced Dyneema alloy, a synthetic fiber three times stronger than Kevlar, covers most of the body, D/MR goes much deeper than that. Embedded into the armor in strategic locations are miniature motion sensors. When a soldier enters a battle and the D/MR system is switched on, the sensors activate and constantly scan the immediately area of the soldier for any extremely fast-moving objects, namely, bullets. If a sensor detects incoming fire in the vicinity, it instantly relays an electric signal to an electromagnet also affixed underneath the armor. The extremely strong magnet activates for a fraction of a second, magnetically repelling all metal objects near it. Though this is not enough to stop most bullets, it will slow them considerably- small-arms fire will simply bounce off the Dyneema. This creates an effective shield from most bullets and small bits of shrapnel. There are downsides- armor-piercing bullets, large pieces of shrapnel, or other fast-moving or large objects won’t be affected enough by the magnetism to effectively protect against them, though the Dyneema ensures they will do minimal damage. In addition, if a soldier is holding his weapon loosely or at an odd angle when a bullet is repulsed, the magnetic burst can knock his gun out of his hands, though it may save his life. For this reason, the D/MR system can be turned off if commanders deem that the appropriate course of action.

Heads-Up Computer Display: Embedded inside the back of the Model G helmet is a personal computer that has a variety of functions, all either voice-controlled, for combat situations, or controlled with a wireless trackball. Soldiers can activate night and thermal vision, or receive mission updates from their commanders in combat. Out of combat, they can contact others, read the news, browse the Internet, or simply play solitaire or a host of other games wirelessly with nearby soldiers to pass the time, helping to boost soldier morale. Any of these functions, of course, can be deactivated by commanding officers. The entire system is water-cooled, reducing heat signature.

Dynamic Camouflage: For most of the history of warfare, camouflage, when it is employed, has been static and unchanging, not at all adaptable. Those days are over. Layered on top of the Kevlar on all Model G armor is flexible LCD screening which molds to the armor. The in-helmet heads-up computer can be used to project image textures into the LCD screens, thus creating constantly-adapting camouflage. But that’s not all. Hoth Manufacturing engineers have taken LCD camouflage to the next level by including a wrist-mounted digital camera built into the armor. A soldier can snap pictures of forest foliage, a snowbank, even an urban wall, and upload them into their computers, where they are automatically duplicated and melded together to create a texture, which can then be projected on the LCD screens. Soldiers will always have tailor-made camouflage that matches their environment. Since soldiers in combat situations will also be taking fire that will undoubtably damage the LCD material, it has been separated into 24 segments designed to be modular and easily replaced. Each armorsuit comes with one replacement for each limb segment, and two for each torso and helmet segment. Additional segments can also be ordered.

Suit Recharge Sockets and MMPTR: The Augury has two suit recharge sockets on each upper leg, as it runs on electricity. Battery life has been enhanced to the highest possible caliber, and the batteries built into the back of the torso armor last for twenty-four hours with LCD camouflage active and computer running, but up to a month at minimum power. To recharge the armor, a soldier can simply use the four cables (included with each set) to plug it in to a standard US power socket, or attach a MMPTR, or Mobile Microwave Power Transmission Reciever. Using this device in conjunction with a satellite- or ground-based transmission system, the suit can receive microwave power, especially useful for special forces or units trapped behind enemy lines. However, due to the limitations of a microwave receiver of the MMPTR’s size, the power system uses more power than the microwave can supply, and the armor system can only last about six months with no socket recharge, even if a constant microwave feed is supplying it.

Pheromone Emitter: Pheromones are a type of scent emitted by most animals as a means of communication. In some types of bees, it is the primary means, but in humans, it is far more subtle. The human pheromone androstenone is one normally used by males to subliminally assert dominance over others of the species; it denotes the ‘alpha male’. Built into the Model G armor is a pheromone emitter that secretes concentrated amounts of androstenone. Effects on enemy combatants include headaches, fear, and intimidation, thus making the solder equipped with the Model G armor more threatening. In some cases, however, particularly where the wearer is in a weaker position, this can have a reverse effect, causing the enemy to unconsciously read the aggression as competition, and become more aggressive himself. For this reason, it is not advised to use the pheromone emitter while on patrol, defending structures, or otherwise at a noticeable disadvantage. To protect your soldiers from each others’ effects, the helmets include filters that neutralize androstenone.


Alternate MT Sets:

(OOC: Though designed for PMT, Model G armor can be used in MT, as all technologies described are based on real technologies and actually feasible. However, some aspects of the armor are based around components visualized but not yet constructed in the modern age. As such, modern tech nations can buy a MT variant of Model G armor called Model G/MT, which is similar to normal Model G with the exceptions of the wrist digital camera, flexible LCD screening, and MMPTR, which have been removed. Due to higher costs of building other components in the modern age, Model G/MT armor is priced the same as normal Model G. The prices are listed below.)


Introductory Pricing:

Single Armor Set: $25,000 USD

Includes:
1 Model G Augury-class Armorsuit
36 Replacement LCD Segments
1 MMPTR

Package Deals:

Outfit your whole army and save even more!

10 Sets - $240,000 (Save $10,000!)
100 Sets - $2,300,000 (Save $200,000!)
1,000 Sets - $22,000,000 (Save $3,000,000!)
10,000 Sets - $210,000,000 (Save $40,000,000!)
100,000 Sets - $2,000,000,000 (Save $500,000,000!)

First buyer gets 10% bonus off, plus any package bonuses!

(OOC: EDIT: Never mind, something was wrong with my browser.)

The nation of Joseph Seal will buy:

50 100,000 Sets

Total(With discount): 90 billion dollars.

Money will be wired to you upon confirmation.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

the Tokera would like to purchase 50x 100,000 Sets
Total: $100 billion USD

OOC: Actually the Suit Recharge Sockets and MMPTR,Dynamic Camouflage, wrist digital camera are actually possible for MT however I think that the
Dyneema Repulsion Armor and the Pheromone Emitter should be removed instead instead of the others, since those technologies are not really practical in MT. Some MT nations use Dynamic Camouflage in MT.

The Hoth Manufacturing Corporation acknowledges the nation of Joseph Seal's order and allocates 5,000,000 units, to be delivered upon confirmation of funds ($90,000,000 USD) wired.

In addition, we acknowledge the order of the Tokera and allocate 5,000,000 units, to be delivered upon confirmation of money ($100,000,000 USD) wired.

-Darryl Galvax, Hoth Manufacturing CEO

OOC: Actually the Suit Recharge Sockets and MMPTR,Dynamic Camouflage, wrist digital camera are actually possible for MT however I think that the
Dyneema Repulsion Armor and the Pheromone Emitter should be removed instead instead of the others, since those technologies are not really practical in MT. Some MT nations use Dynamic Camouflage in MT.

OOC: I removed what I did in the MT variant because microwave power transmission to a hand-held reciever and flexible LCD screens that can mold to odd curves haven't actually been developed in the real world, though they eventually will, whereas the other things could concievably be built today, using technology we have. As for the digital camera, I removed it because it would be impractical without the LCD screens. The recharge sockets, however, are still present, only the MMPTR has been removed.

The nation of Joseph Seal, after testing them out in war simulations, is VERY pleased with your technology.

We would like to buy:

20 100,000 Sets

Total: 400 billion dollars.

Money will be wired upon confirmation. We thank you and wish you more luck in your business.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

The nation of Joseph Seal, after testing them out in war simulations, is VERY pleased with your technology.

We would like to buy:

20 100,000 Sets

Total: 400 billion dollars.

Money will be wired upon confirmation. We thank you and wish you more luck in your business.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

OOC: Before I respond IC, I assume that these are in addition to the 50 million already purchased, due to the lack of inclusion of the 10% discount, and, did you mean 200 100,000 sets? Your figures don't add up...

(OOC: I'm going to assume you meant 200 sets.)

Hoth Manufacturing
Apex, the Hoth system

To his majesty, the honorable Emperor Arfus Sealous:

Your order has been confirmed; the requested 20 million units will be delivered via escorted cargo plane pending transfer of $400 billion USD. We wholeheartedly thank you for choosing Hoth Manufacturing, and hope that we may have the pleasure of doing business again in the near future.

-Darryl Galvax, CEO

OOC: Yes, these are in addition. Also, I meant 200. My bad... ^^;

OOC: Updated the product picture, some of the descriptions were outdated.

OOC: yes I agree that the microwave power transmission to a hand-held reciever are not possible for mt but being able to recharge is. Also the flexible LCD screens that can mold to odd curves are possible though they are not common but several MT nations use Active Camoflage which is similar which can use organic light-emitting diodes (OLEDs) and other technologies which allow for images to be projected from oddly-shaped surfaces. Which give the user a camelion like camoflage. But with this camoflage you would not require a wrist mounted digital camera. Also you do not need the digital camera since it could be used for spys and intelligence gathering

you can read about the active camoflage on these sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_camouflage
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

OOC: yes I agree that the microwave power transmission to a hand-held reciever are not possible for mt but being able to recharge is. Also the flexible LCD screens that can mold to odd curves are possible though they are not common but several MT nations use Active Camoflage which is similar which can use organic light-emitting diodes (OLEDs) and other technologies which allow for images to be projected from oddly-shaped surfaces. Which give the user a camelion like camoflage. But with this camoflage you would not require a wrist mounted digital camera. Also you do not need the digital camera since it could be used for spys and intelligence gathering

you can read about the active camoflage on these sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_camouflage
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

OOC: I mentioned above that recharge sockets are included with the MT model, just not the MMPTR. Also, about the active camouflage, on a personal level, technology is not sufficient for illusory transparency to create an effective camouflage for a soldier, and simply glowing wouldn't help them much, either, unlike a jet.

OOC: oh ok now I understand about the recharge socket. The active camoflage technology is appliable to a suit type thing and is currently being researched by the United States for Tanks, planes and soldier armor and is due to be arround some where arround 2035. The technology takes a image from one side and places it on the other side and the other way arround therefore creating a transparent look. The OLED's would not just simply glow but effectivly mimic its surroundings and would be virtually invisible to observers from all sides and angles.

OOC: oh ok now I understand about the recharge socket. The active camoflage technology is appliable to a suit type thing and is currently being researched by the United States for Tanks, planes and soldier armor and is due to be arround some where arround 2035. The technology takes a image from one side and places it on the other side and the other way arround therefore creating a transparent look. The OLED's would not just simply glow but effectivly mimic its surroundings and would be virtually invisible to observers from all sides and angles.

OCC: Well, yeah, that's the thing- 2035. Meaning probably not suitable for modern tech. Adaptable camouflage like I'm talking about will probably exist before simulated invisibility through active camouflage will.

ooc: This "Dyneema alloy" stuff you talk about yeah from what I see on the internet it's used for ropes not armor.

Also this magnetic armor system that you're trying to pull just wouldn't work. The magnetic field would probably have to be huge, which would drain the power of the suit, to stop a 6-7mm round going 900 m/s. Also with your computer system you're probally going to need a fair sized hard disk, plus CPU, video card, and more which means you need to cool it some how. Your troops will stick out like red hot thumbs, which would allow for my intelligence to pick them out, and identify that they are hostile. All done by IR, yes the United States does that today in Iraq. Just by an IR image you can tell that someone is holding a weapon, thus since my intelligence forces know where all my troops are they would that that it's an enemy they're looking at.

Also I highly doubt your Battle suit could stop a 25-mm HE Air bursting round from one of my SAW's.

All done by IR, yes the United States does that today in Iraq.
OOC: And that applies to virtually any and all other human.

Also I highly doubt your Battle suit could stop a 25-mm HE Air bursting round from one of my SAW's.
OOC: I'd highly doubt that any other battle suits/individual armour systems can withstand it either.

ooc: This "Dyneema alloy" stuff you talk about yeah from what I see on the internet it's used for ropes not armor.

Also this magnetic armor system that you're trying to pull just wouldn't work. The magnetic field would probably have to be huge, which would drain the power of the suit, to stop a 6-7mm round going 900 m/s. Also with your computer system you're probally going to need a fair sized hard disk, plus CPU, video card, and more which means you need to cool it some how. Your troops will stick out like red hot thumbs, which would allow for my intelligence to pick them out, and identify that they are hostile. All done by IR, yes the United States does that today in Iraq. Just by an IR image you can tell that someone is holding a weapon, thus since my intelligence forces know where all my troops are they would that that it's an enemy they're looking at.

Also I highly doubt your Battle suit could stop a 25-mm HE Air bursting round from one of my SAW's.

OOC:

1) If you read the Wikipedia article on Dyneema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyneema), it talks about how it is used both in roping and in bulletproof armor, owing to its strength, which is three times that of Kevlar and 15 times that of steel.

2) The magnetic field does not work by size of field, but by strength of magnetism, and is activated only momentarily. Also, it is not designed to stop bullets, only slow them enough so that the bulletproof armor can deflect them.

3) The computer is water-cooled, not cooled with a fan. I apoligize for not writing that in the post, I intended to, but must have forgot about it after I rewrote it. It has been edited to include the information.

4) As I said before, the system cannot slow all bullets. Large or particularly fast-moving bullets will not be affected significantly. Now, I'm not familiar with your 25-mm HE Air bursting rounds, but it's entirely likely, based on the nature of your boasting, that the system would be noneffective. It isn't all-powerful, nowhere near it, in fact, as I've stated multiple times.

To:The Hoth system
From: General Thomas Paine

We would like to 60 of the 100,000 set package for the total cost of $120 billion USD.

LOL ROTFLMAO! Now snipers can pick out a color of paint for their new room, and pick out a target all at once. Having a big colored spot on your helmet doesen't do much for camo, let alone the risks it places on higher ranked officers. Ever wounder why in the field all the rank stripes and the such are black? You dont want the enemy to know who is in charge.

Planet AvP2 would like to purchase 3 million sets of Armor.

We will pay upon delivery.

LOL ROTFLMAO! Now snipers can pick out a color of paint for their new room, and pick out a target all at once. Having a big colored spot on your helmet doesen't do much for camo, let alone the risks it places on higher ranked officers. Ever wounder why in the field all the rank stripes and the such are black? You dont want the enemy to know who is in charge.

(OOC: The red highlights are standard rank markings projected by the LCD screening. It's intended for base camp activities or ceremonial events. If a soldier is dense enough to wear them into battle, they deserve to be picked off.)

Hoth Manufacturing
From the desk of Darryl Galvax

To General Thomas Paine:

We have recieved and confirmed your order for 6,000,000 units, and have begun shipment. It will arrive when the money transfer is complete. Thank you for choosing Hoth Manufacturing, and may our nations do business together again in the future.

-Darryl Galvax, CEO
___________________________________________________

Hoth Manufacturing
From the desk of Darryl Galvax

To the government of planet AvP2:

We have recieved and confirmed your order for 3,000,000 units and have begun shipment. It will be completed when the money transfer is complete. We look forward to doing business with you again. Thank you for choosing Hoth Manufacturing Corporation.

-Darryl Galvax, CEO

OOC: yes but when I say 2035 that is the date expected to be used on a large scale in the united states army. The technology for active camoflage is arround today and could be used.

The nation of The Celestial Swords will order 100,000 for one of it's elite armies.

We hope to aqquire enough for our entire army soon.

This will be purchased through the Gamespy System Defense budget.

The Celestial Swords Righteous Vanguard Commander,

Falx Carius

The nation of The Celestial Swords will order 100,000 for one of it's elite armies.

We hope to aqquire enough for our entire army soon.

This will be purchased through the Gamespy System Defense budget.

(OOC: How do you have a regional defense budget? Your country's is well more than sufficient to cover the cost of a set of 100,000.)

Hoth Manufacturing
From the desk of Darryl Galvax, CEO

Commander Carius-

Your order has been recieved, and the requested 100,000 units are ready to ship. They will be transported by escorted cargo plane upon confirmation of the wire transfer of $ 2 million USD. Thank you for choosing the Hoth Manufacturing Corporation.

-Darryl Galvax, CEO

Excuse my error.

The Money has been transferred to the Treasury of the Hoth System.

We await the shipment and hope to do such efficient business with you in the future.

The Celestial Swords Righteous Vanguard Commander,

Falx Carius

Funds recieved have been confirmed, and the goods are en route, they should be arriving within the day ((RL 4 minutes)). The Hoth Manufacturing Corporation thanks you again and hopes we can do business more in the future as well.

OOC: yes but when I say 2035 that is the date expected to be used on a large scale in the united states army. The technology for active camoflage is arround today and could be used.

OOC: Maybe in lab testing (and James Bond movies :p ) but not on the battlefield. It's not yet refined enough for actual use, otherwise the military would buying all they could get their hands on.

OOC:yes the technology is available and could be used now, but it is expected to be used in the US military in 2035. The technology could be used on the battlefield now. Yes it is refined enough for actual use. It dosent mean that the military would be buying it right now, but there is nothing to say they wont or are not buying or experimenting with the technology now. But it is capable of use now. Actuallly the technology is being experimented with now on tanks but who is to say that they wont begin testing with armor. I am not trying to put down your awsome design but the technology is useable and I am just saying that maby for MT you use active camoflage and for PMT you use the dynamic camoflage or something.

OOC:yes the technology is available and could be used now, but it is expected to be used in the US military in 2035. The technology could be used on the battlefield now. Yes it is refined enough for actual use. It dosent mean that the military would be buying it right now, but there is nothing to say they wont or are not buying or experimenting with the technology now. But it is capable of use now. Actuallly the technology is being experimented with now on tanks but who is to say that they wont begin testing with armor. I am not trying to put down your awsome design but the technology is useable and I am just saying that maby for MT you use active camoflage and for PMT you use the dynamic camoflage or something.

OOC: That may be, but this armor is designed for the 2005-2025 era, meaning, for whatever reason, active camouflage would not be seeing large-scale use during its existence, from the 2035 figure you presented. Also... can it really be used now? Do you have a link to an article or something that states this? I'm a skeptic. ;)

OOC: Just a criticism of active camo in general, it is extremely difficult (I think impossible) to make it work from all angles, because you can't have overlapping images. Basically, picture a cylinder, and wrap a picture of the stuff behind it on to the front, now wrap another picture, from one side to the other. 1/4th of the cylinder is now covered twice, meaning either one image must be cut off, or the images must be blended.
http://tinypic.com/72c511.jpg
It would still work pretty well, since at least the colors and whatnot would match the environment, but you'd have to designate a side facing the enemy if you wanted to disappear. Nice armor though!

OOC: Just a criticism of active camo in general, it is extremely difficult (I think impossible) to make it work from all angles, because you can't have overlapping images. Basically, picture a cylinder, and wrap a picture of the stuff behind it on to the front, now wrap another picture, from one side to the other. 1/4th of the cylinder is now covered twice, meaning either one image must be cut off, or the images must be blended.
http://tinypic.com/72c511.jpg
It would still work pretty well, since at least the colors and whatnot would match the environment, but you'd have to designate a side facing the enemy if you wanted to disappear. Nice armor though!

OOC: That's exactly what I thought, not to mention that a soldier is an oddly-shaped, moving object, rather than a immobile cylinder. And thanks.

EDIT: This armor doesn't use active camouflage, though, instead LCD screens that show a static image, but this image can be changed.

OOC: no I am sorry, I cannot provide you a link since it was something said on TV infact the military channel about future warriors or something like that.
Yes but when the soldier is running for example the image would look as it was a little blurry ( such as the way heat is seen rising). The technology uses uses OLED's which pick up light from one side and project it on the other side and the other way arround (the picture would look like a 3D image of the surroundings or a 360 view). When one OLED picks up the light reflected off an object (color) then the paired OLED projects that same color and picks up the color from the side it is on and it put on the other original OLED. So another words each OLED picks up and projects images, or colors. From up close it would look just like pixles. It would genaraly make the suit one big TV scren.

OOC: Yes, but for that to work, the soldier would have to be studded with expensive cameras on all sides, for one. Also, there's another problem.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7131/soldier0hs.jpg

As you can see in this crude Paint diagram, if objects to the side of the soldier ar significantly different than those in front of him, the discrepancy will be extremely visible looking from the front because the viewer can see the beginning of the curve of the arms. The is the same sort of thing as Sileetris posted above, but, hopefully, it's a bit clearer.

OOC: NO the soldiers armor would be covered by OLED's. If an observer was viewing the front of the soldier the observer would only see what was behind the soldier and not what was in front, however if the observer was behind the soldier the observer would only view an image from the front of the soldier, this also applies to sides and angles. The image would match the image on the opposite side. And any way would you rather have a image that changes with its environment or one that is static. For example if a soldier with active camoflage ran across a field the image would look like a blur, but if a soldier with static camoflage ran across a field it would simply be one image staying the same and would be easily spotted. If you want to keep up with the terrain with static images you would have to take images constantly.

here is a example picture active camoflage (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/thetokera/activecamoflageexample.jpg)

OOC: NO the soldiers armor would be covered by OLED's. If an observer was viewing the front of the soldier the observer would only see what was behind the soldier and not what was in front, however if the observer was behind the soldier the observer would only view an image from the front of the soldier, this also applies to sides and angles. The image would match the image on the opposite side. And any way would you rather have a image that changes with its environment or one that is static. For example if a soldier with active camoflage ran across a field the image would look like a blur, but if a soldier with static camoflage ran across a field it would simply be one image staying the same and would be easily spotted. If you want to keep up with the terrain with static images you would have to take images constantly.

here is a example picture active camoflage (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/thetokera/activecamoflageexample.jpg)


OOC: You're right- if the cutout man is flat and viewed straight-on. Here's another image, perhaps this will make it more clear:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9479/jpg9ld.png

Person B is like the viewer of the image you posted above. He can clearly see the red box 'through' the OLED, because he views it straight on.

Person A, however, is looking at the curve from the side, so he sees part of the red box even when it is not in front of him, because the OLEDs are curving. This would be the same problem one would have with active camouflage, especially on armor, because of the curvature of the shoulders, torso, arms, legs, and head. The outline of the person would be visible because around the edges it would project an image of what's to the side. The only way to circumvent this problem would be to sense where the viewer is and adjust the images to look correct from the angle of the viewer.

The Democratic Republic would like to outfit its army with this venerable armor system, and wishes to purchase 500 of the 100,000-unit sets. The total price, with discount, should come out to $900 billion. Payment will be wired upon confirmation.

OOC: yes I under stand that but the image on the outline of the curves should match the image on the other side. But even if it did show an outline dont you think that it would be better than a static image.

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Hoth Manufacturing
From the desk of Darryl Galvax

Esteemed leaders of Halberdgardia:

Thank you for your interest in Model G armor. However, I think there was an error in your price calculations, the total should be $1 trillion dollars, as the discount only applies to the first buyer. In addition, your defense budget (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Halberdgardia) is only $667 billion dollars, insufficient to purchase the sets indicated. Therefore, we cannot deliver the product as requested. However, if you would like to make a smaller purchase, we would be happy to accomodate you.

Darryl Galvax, CEO, Hoth Manufacturing

TCS would like to thank Hoth Systems and give it's official testomony.

Deaths suffered in Hoth Systems Armor: 232

Deaths suffered w/o Hoth Armor: 48,000 (ish)

This is our choice of armor for Special Forces, though our new Elysian Drop Trooper package would come hand-in-hand with this.

Greetings to you. We are impressed with your armor, and wish to buy two million more, which I believe comes up to a total of 400 million dollars.(If I'm wrong, it was a typo, and I'm too lazy to check RIGHT now)

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

the tokera would like to purchase 25X 100,000 Sets for $50,000,000,000 USD.

Hoth Manufacturing
From the desk of Darryl Galvax

Esteemed leaders of Halberdgardia:

Thank you for your interest in Model G armor. However, I think there was an error in your price calculations, the total should be $1 trillion dollars, as the discount only applies to the first buyer. In addition, your defense budget (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Halberdgardia) is only $667 billion dollars, insufficient to purchase the sets indicated. Therefore, we cannot deliver the product as requested. However, if you would like to make a smaller purchase, we would be happy to accomodate you.

Darryl Galvax, CEO, Hoth Manufacturing

We apologize for the regrettable mistake in our calculations. We did not notice that particular clause. As for our defense budget, while we cannot purchase our placed order with it alone, we have substantial monies from sales of our spacecraft (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428641), to the order of approximately $34 trillion (in addition to approximately $4 trillion of surplus defense budget monies that we have accrued over many NS years), that we wish to put towards this purchase. Therefore, we repeat our request for our original order of 50,000,000 units of the Model-G Infantry Armor. $1 trillion will be wired upon confirmation.

TCS would like to thank Hoth Systems and give it's official testomony.

Deaths suffered in Hoth Systems Armor: 232

Deaths suffered w/o Hoth Armor: 48,000 (ish)

This is our choice of armor for Special Forces, though our new Elysian Drop Trooper package would come hand-in-hand with this.

The Hoth Manufacturing corporation is extremely happy you found the Model G armor superior, and hopes our two nations can do business together in the near future.

Greetings to you. We are impressed with your armor, and wish to buy two million more, which I believe comes up to a total of 400 million dollars.(If I'm wrong, it was a typo, and I'm too lazy to check RIGHT now)

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

Actually, your estimate was slightly low- the cost would be $40 billion USD. The units are prepared and rady for shipping pending confirmation of received funds.

the tokera would like to purchase 25X 100,000 Sets for $50,000,000,000 USD.

Your order has been recieved, and the units are ready for shipping, pending wire transfer of the payment.

We apologize for the regrettable mistake in our calculations. We did not notice that particular clause. As for our defense budget, while we cannot purchase our placed order with it alone, we have substantial monies from sales of our spacecraft (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428641), to the order of approximately $34 trillion (in addition to approximately $4 trillion of surplus defense budget monies that we have accrued over many NS years), that we wish to put towards this purchase. Therefore, we repeat our request for our original order of 50,000,000 units of the Model-G Infantry Armor. $1 trillion will be wired upon confirmation.

Hoth Manufacturing apologizes for the misunderstaning, but we hope you realize we simply must ensure that the buyer has the means to pay for the purchase. In light of this new information, however, we are more than happy to confirm your order and are ready to ship the requested units when we have confirmation of funds transferred.

Actually, your estimate was slightly low- the cost would be $40 billion USD. The units are prepared and rady for shipping pending confirmation of received funds.
Confirmed. Money has been wired to your business's account. We expect this shipment to come soon. We thank you again for correcting our mistake and your business.

Actually, there is one more thing. If it is possible, since we are considering becoming allies, we would like to purchase production rights to this fabulous armor. We are willing to pay most any price you name, and we can compensate for higher payments through daily loans. Also, if we ever consider selling your armor to others, half of the money will be sent to you. We hope you seriously consider this offer, and an alliance for whatever price you decide on.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

thank you $50,000,000,000 USD has been wired.

Hoth Manufacturing apologizes for the misunderstaning, but we hope you realize we simply must ensure that the buyer has the means to pay for the purchase. In light of this new information, however, we are more than happy to confirm your order and are ready to ship the requested units when we have confirmation of funds transferred.

We fully understood your initial hesitation, and understand, as a fellow storefront manager, that ensuring the customer has the means to pay for their purchase is crucial. $1 trillion has been wired to your accounts.

Confirmed. Money has been wired to your business's account. We expect this shipment to come soon. We thank you again for correcting our mistake and your business.

Actually, there is one more thing. If it is possible, since we are considering becoming allies, we would like to purchase production rights to this fabulous armor. We are willing to pay most any price you name, and we can compensate for higher payments through daily loans. Also, if we ever consider selling your armor to others, half of the money will be sent to you. We hope you seriously consider this offer, and an alliance for whatever price you decide on.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

The shipment has been sent and will arrive momentarily. We thank you for your continued patronage.

About your request for production rights, I would be open to selling the rights with the conditions you stated above, for, let's say $200 million.

In addition, the shipments of Halberdgardia and the tokera have been sent after confirmation of payment, and will arrive shortly. We also thank you for your purchases.

Sold. We have a team of some of our best scientists coming over with the required money to buy the official paperwork, the armor, and the plans. We deeply thank you for your friendship.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

We have transferred the designs, as well as other pertinent information, to your emissaries. We thank you graciously for your purchase and hope that our product serves your military well.