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Earth IV

Whittier--
09-07-2005, 20:53
Is now ready.
I would post available territory here, but the list is so big that it required posting on the Earth IV forum instead of here.
You can post your land claims there or here.

Room for up to 1,000 people.
Each national territorial description is accompanied by a link to a national map so you can see where your land is in that nation.

Allows colonizing of moon or Mars with modern technology.

Link to Earth IV forums.
Earth IV (http://s9.invisionfree.com/Earth_IV/index.php?act=idx)


Rules for Earth IV:
1. 1. Rules for land claims:
Admin: Up to 7 nations.
Mods: 3 nations.
Members:
a: 5 million to 250 million=1 province or one island
b. 250 million to 500 million=2 provinces or 3 islands
c. 500 million to 750 million = 3 provinces
d. 750 million to 1 billion= 4 provinces
e. 1 billion and higher= 1 whole nation
US states, Russian Republics, and Indian and Chinese internal divisions, and each Canadian Province, each count as one nation due to the size of those nations.
2. Keep OOC posts in the OOC forum.
3. If you are going to invade someone, you must notify them via the "RP Proposal" forum. They have the right to say no. If they say no, you cannot invade them.
4. If someone abuses their right to say no, all their territories will be removed, save one. They will be given the choice of which territory they will be allowed to keep. All others will be taken.
5. All persons start off with 1,000 points.
A. Anyone who goes below zero points, will be banned. (You're starting off with 1,000 points. It's pretty hard to get below zero from there unless you do something very egregious).
B. What will cause points to be removed: Flaming (100 points), baiting (50 points). Godmoding (10 points), uberteching (10 points) (should be noted that Earth IV is modern/post modern, see below) invading someone after they already said they don't want to rp it (100 points) (this is because it can be a form of baiting/flaming), dictating someone elses losses (25 points), rping what someone elses people do without their consent (25 points).
C. Points can also be added: Good rping (20 points), good plots (20 points), good character development (20 points), politeness (50 points), apologizing for flames (10 points).
D. Admins and Mods are neither eligible to recieve points nor can they lose points, except in the case of flaming. In that event a Mod will lose 300 points (because Mods have to set the example and are thus held to a greater standard). If they get below 1,000, they will lose their moderation powers and be banned also.
E. If the admin gets below 1,000 (actually I am still working on this since it would not be prudent to ban myself.)
F. No ban may be permanent. And no ban may last for more than 30 days.
G. All bans are appealable to Earth IV community. The agreement of the Earth IV community can be appealed to the admin (but only in extreme cases). To request an appeal: you will have up to 3 days to request an appeal in the Admin/Mod forum. Once a request is made, it cannot be denied. It must go to trial. First to a council of the mods, then it can be appealed to the General Earth IV community, finally to the admin. The admin will review the decisions made by the mods and the EIV community. So the mods must be sure to keep good notes on their deliberations. During deliberations, all edits to posts are banned.
6. Rules for technology: Earth IV is modern/post modern tech. Nothing past 2015. The admin or the Council of Mods (acting as a group) decide if a questionable tech is acceptable. For a Council of Mods to approve a questionable techology, they must approve it by 80%. If the Mods reject your technology you may appeal to the admin but you must go through the Council first.
Under no circumstances will be faster than light speed craft be accepted. If the mods accept a tech the admin suspects to be uber, admin will review decision of mods. It is part of the responsibility of the Council, when reviewing tech, to research the tech feasability. But it is also the responsibility of the rper making the proposal to give the mods adequate links, on both sides of the feasability debate. If links are not given, the mods may temporarily ban such tech until links are forth coming. At least 5 links for each side of a tech debate must be provided by proposer.
Proposer is the one whose nation has developed said tech.
7. Resources: Each territory has resources. Those territories are limited to only those resources. If you want a different resource than what is in your land, you must invade and take over a land that has the resource you want. Or you can buy or negotiate for such land or resource)
8. Space Exploration and colonies:
Colonies on Mars and the Moon are permitted as long as they are done with only modern tech.
9. Military:Rules are meant to be simple.
A. Regardless of nation size, you are limited to no more than 10 million total people in your military. This number is the total people in all the branches in your military.
B. Combat/Support Ratios:
Army:
Infantry=3:1
Armored=5:1
Air Force: 6:1
Navy: 5:1
Marines: 3:1
Special Ops: 2:1
Reserves: up to 10 million people. This will effectively double your force to 20 million if you are invaded. But if you are the aggressor, and there are ten million people in your reserves you can only activate just enough to replace those active 10 million that have been killed in combat.
When creating your army, remember that you must pay your troops what ever the per capita is on your Thirdgreek economic profile. That, in conjunction with your thirdgreek defense budget will determine if you can have 10 million troops. Don't forget to factor in money for training. Usually at least $200,000 per soldier. That amount includes equipment maintenance.)



Current Claims:
Whittier-California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Sonora, Chihuaha, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Singapore

The South Pacific= Papua New Guinea, Tasmania, Solomon Islands, West Papua.

NakedTeenageGirls= Northern Baja California

Neandertalia= Southern Baja California

Canales=Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska

Tonissia=Upper Michigan, Minnesota, Eastern Wisconsin

Sharina: Main, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachussetts, Connecticut, Delaware, New York, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Washington DC, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Illinoise, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa, Upper Michigan, Maryland, Western Wisconsin.


Lower Egypt: Northern Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco, Cueta, Milleta

Upper Egypt: Southern Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia

Hataria=Spain

Warta Endor=Australia, New Zealand

National Oceana= Granma, Holguin, Guantánamo Province (provinces of Cuba)

Ur=Dhi Qar (a province of Iraq)

The Lord Abbot=Ireland

Simguyuk=Andorra, Aquitane, Midi-Pyrennees

Clavis=Italy

Supposedly Free People=Jharkhand


All rights reserved. Copyright June 2005 Whittier--
Whittier--
09-07-2005, 21:47
a tiny little bump.
Whittier--
09-07-2005, 22:01
had to put in a couple fixes. (put in missing forums for invading and stuff).
Joseph Seal
09-07-2005, 22:01
OOC: ... um... I suppose I do it like this...

IC:

The nation of Joseph Seal claims the land of Western Europe. The countries include:

Spain
Portugal
France
Italy
United Kingdom
Ireland
Switzerland
Belgium
Germany
Denmark
The Netherlands
Poland
Slovakia
Hungary
Croatia
Slovenia
Austria

OOC: Tell me if I can't do this. Thanks.
Whittier--
09-07-2005, 22:07
OOC: ... um... I suppose I do it like this...

IC:

The nation of Joseph Seal claims the land of Western Europe. The countries include:

Spain
Portugal
France
Italy
United Kingdom
Ireland
Switzerland
Belgium
Germany
Denmark
The Netherlands
Poland
Slovakia
Hungary
Croatia
Slovenia
Austria

OOC: Tell me if I can't do this. Thanks.
Forgot to put rules in first post.

For claims you start off with one province of a nation. Whole nations are not claimed by parts of them are.
For example, for France, you can't claim all of France but you can claim a region of France.
United Stans of Arabia
09-07-2005, 22:30
Umm...this is a lil confusing, I wish I could just claim one nation.

And I didnt see in your original post, how do you figure out population? Do we use our NS countries?
Whittier--
09-07-2005, 22:34
Umm...this is a lil confusing, I wish I could just claim one nation.

And I didnt see in your original post, how do you figure out population? Do we use our NS countries?
You can claim part of a nation.

Your population is your NS population for economic purposes.
United Stans of Arabia
09-07-2005, 22:59
Ooh, okay...good luck with this
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 04:37
Can always use more people.

Invasions under way:
Whittier: Panama
Warta Endor: New Zealand.
Joseph Seal
10-07-2005, 05:41
OOC: Eh... forget it. This is a little too confusing... good luck with it.
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 17:21
Fixed the claims rules to make them user friendly.
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 17:25
Need mods and RP critics (RP Critics score people based on their rps).
Members who reach over 2,000 posts automatically get mod status.
All bans are appealable to the Earth IV community.

Edit: All perma bans are illegal. No ban may go over 30 days.

Suggestions for further Earth IV improvement are welcome.
Are the rules comprehensible or too confusing?



Earth IV: An entire year in the making.
Warta Endor
10-07-2005, 17:51
Come on people, it's very fun! It's a bit complicated but that makes it so nice! We need more members!
Hataria
10-07-2005, 18:25
I would like to Claim

Spain
Italy
France
Switzerland

If they are Claimed or being Invaded, please TG me.
Warta Endor
10-07-2005, 18:41
Read the rules. One billion or higher is one nation. As you are two billion plus maybe you could get two countries. I'll contact the Chief Mod (Whittier) to ask what he thinks.
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 18:41
I would like to Claim

Spain
Italy
France
Switzerland

If they are Claimed or being Invaded, please TG me.
Those are whole nations. Since you are over 1 billion, you can have one of them. Its up to you which one you want.
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 18:45
Weird how we posted at the same time.

At this point the rule is if you have 1 billion or higher, you get only one nation.
It might become 1 nation per billion in the future but not the near future.
Reason being that in the future you would have two or three nations claiming all of Earth IV by sheer virtue of their size.

I am considering a reduction in maximum military size. Particularly as far as reserves are concerned. But I will need input before making a decision.
Nano soft
10-07-2005, 18:51
hmmm.....Well if I am only allowed one nation since I have over one billion I'd like Iraq.

But if I am allowed four nations, since my population is 4 Billion, I'd like Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Iran.
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 18:57
hmmm.....Well if I am only allowed one nation since I have over one billion I'd like Iraq.

But if I am allowed four nations, since my population is 4 Billion, I'd like Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Iran.
Iraq is....let me check.

Open. Its yours.


Be sure to go to the earth iv forum to see what's available.

Edit: Since you've been around a while, I could make you mod (if you're interested) and that you would enable you to get 3 nations. You would have Iraq and which two of the other nations you decide you want.
Hataria
10-07-2005, 19:22
Spain is Good
Nano soft
10-07-2005, 19:24
Sure why not I guess I'll be a mod. Then I guess I'll take Iraq, Kuait, and Saudi Arabia.

I'll register as the Arab Coalition.
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 19:53
Spain is Good
its yours
Whittier--
10-07-2005, 19:53
Sure why not I guess I'll be a mod. Then I guess I'll take Iraq, Kuait, and Saudi Arabia.

I'll register as the Arab Coalition.
they're yours
Zorfo
11-07-2005, 07:24
I would like to claim the island of Corsica

note: just made this new nation a couple days ago, and this is my first post from this nation, but I used to RP a bit on here as the nation Ferratus, so I'm not as noob as my post count might suggest :)
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 05:02
I would like to claim the island of Corsica

note: just made this new nation a couple days ago, and this is my first post from this nation, but I used to RP a bit on here as the nation Ferratus, so I'm not as noob as my post count might suggest :)
Corsica is yours.
Sharina
12-07-2005, 05:07
Hiyas, Whittier.

I was wondering if I could transfer my Earth IV claims from your old one to this new one? By this, I assume you've finally finished the mapping, resource research, guidelines, etc. that you told me about a few months ago?

Please let me know. :)
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 05:19
Hiyas, Whittier.

I was wondering if I could transfer my Earth IV claims from your old one to this new one? By this, I assume you've finally finished the mapping, resource research, guidelines, etc. that you told me about a few months ago?

Please let me know. :)
I remember that. Can you remind me what was yours? You can transfer 3 of those. I'll just make you mod. You can get the rest by rping invading them. just let me know which ones you want.
Sharina
12-07-2005, 05:49
Here's my claims list from your original Earth IV.



Sharina=

Massachuetts (scientific instruments, electrical equipment, machinery, publishing, diary products, cranberries, vegetables, fish, flounder, scallops, crushed stone)
Rhode Island (fish, jewelry, silverware, electrical equipment, machinery, shipbuilding, diary, eggs, crushed stone)
Maine (fish, paper, lumber, electrical equipment, processed food, leather products, textiles, lobster, poultry, eggs, potatoes, diary products, cattle, blueberries, apples, cement, crushed stone)
New Hampshire (machinery, electrical equipment, scientific instruments, rubber, plastics, diary products, cattle, apples, maple syrup, sugar, crushed stone, dimension stone)
Vermont (electrical equipment, publishing, paper, beef, diary products, apples, maple syrup, granite, dimension stone, crushed stone)
Conneticut (transportation equipment, machinery, electrical equipment, chemicals, scientific instruments, eggs, dairy products, crushed stone)
New York (publishing, scientific instruments, electrical equipment, machinery, chemicals, diary products, cattle, vegetables, apples, salt, crushed stone, cement)
Pennsylvania (processed food, chemicals, machinery, electrical equipment, dairy products, poultry, beef, mushrooms, hogs, coal, natural gas, limestone, crushed stone, cement)
New Jersey (chemicals, processed food, electrical equipment, publishing, horses, vegetables, fruits, nuts, seafood, dairy products, crushed stone)
Florida (electrical equipment, food processing, printing and publishing, transportation equipment, citrus fruits, vegetables, greenhouse and nursery products, cattle, sugarcane, dairy products, phosphate, cement, sand and gravel, peat, titanium concentrates)
North Carolina (textiles, chemicals, electrical equipment, machinery, food processing, tourism, tobacco, poultry and eggs, hogs, milk, cattle, soybeans, phosphates, crushed stone, construction sand and gravel, lithium)
South Carolina (textiles, chemicals, paper products, machinery, tourism, tobacco, poultry, beef cattle, dairy products, soybeans, hogs, granite, limestone, portland cement, crushed stone)
Georgia (textiles and apparel, transportation equipment, food processing, paper products, chemicals, tourism, poultry and eggs, peanuts, beef cattle, hogs, dairy products, kaolin and other clays)
Virginia (transportation equipment, textiles, food processing, printing, electrical equipment, chemicals, tobacco products, beef cattle, poultry, dairy products, tobacco, hogs, soybeans, coal, crushed stone, lime, construction sand and gravel)
West Virgina (chemicals, mining, primary metals, stone, clay, and glass products, tourism, beef cattle, dairy products, poultry, apples, coal, natural gas, crushed stone, portland cement, salt)
Maryland (electrical equipment, food processing, chemicals, printing and publishing, tourism, seafood, poultry, dairy products, greenhouse and nursery products, soybeans, coal, crushed stone, sand and gravel, portland cement)
Delaware (chemicals, food processing, transportation equipment, shellfish, poultry, nursery stock, soybeans, dairy products, corn, construction sand and gravel)

I included bold to highlight the claim. The rest are the resources.

I have a question, though. Several of these states are pretty tiny, like Rhode Island and Delaware, while the biggest state in these claims would be either Florida or New York. How should we treat / consider tiny states like Delaware, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Hawaii, etc.?
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 06:15
Here's my claims list from your original Earth IV.



I included bold to highlight the claim. The rest are the resources.

I have a question, though. Several of these states are pretty tiny, like Rhode Island and Delaware, while the biggest state in these claims would be either Florida or New York. How should we treat / consider tiny states like Delaware, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Hawaii, etc.?
Like I posted on the Earth IV forum,

all American states, the 4 british provinces, all canadian provinces, all russian and chinese republics, all Brazilian states, and all indian states are treated as individual nations. they are all equal.

What ever you pick, be sure to start a thread to take the rest of those.
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 06:23
Here's my claims list from your original Earth IV.



I included bold to highlight the claim. The rest are the resources.

I have a question, though. Several of these states are pretty tiny, like Rhode Island and Delaware, while the biggest state in these claims would be either Florida or New York. How should we treat / consider tiny states like Delaware, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Hawaii, etc.?
Disregard what I just posted bout only having 3. I just checked those and apparently they've been reserved for you.
Sharina
12-07-2005, 11:21
Disregard what I just posted bout only having 3. I just checked those and apparently they've been reserved for you.

Thanks, buddy.

I already registered at the Earth IV forums, and posted my claims lists and possible future invasion lists.

BTW, I'm wondering if we should create a history for Earth IV, like how did all the RL nations collapse and new nations spring up (our NS nations)? I think that'd be something quite interesting and possibly draw some people in. :)
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 13:50
Thanks, buddy.

I already registered at the Earth IV forums, and posted my claims lists and possible future invasion lists.

BTW, I'm wondering if we should create a history for Earth IV, like how did all the RL nations collapse and new nations spring up (our NS nations)? I think that'd be something quite interesting and possibly draw some people in. :)
good idea
Vintovia
12-07-2005, 14:10
Vintovia (515,000,000) Apart from being pissed at the guy who took spain (We wanted Catalunya!) we will choose our three Provinces:

1.Languedoc-Roussillon
2.Pyrénées-Orientales
3. Andorra (That's gotta count as a province, not a coutry, come on?)
Vintovia
12-07-2005, 14:11
Where are the Earth IV forums?
The Lord Abbot
12-07-2005, 14:16
My ns nation is over 1 billion but where are the forums. Also can someone tell me the rules. And can I claim Ireland?
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 17:02
Vintovia (515,000,000) Apart from being pissed at the guy who took spain (We wanted Catalunya!) we will choose our three Provinces:

1.Languedoc-Roussillon
2.Pyrénées-Orientales
3. Andorra (That's gotta count as a province, not a coutry, come on?)

yeah. right.

Andorra counts as a country. But seeing as you have not made mod. status, it for you it will count as a province.
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 17:03
Where are the Earth IV forums?
Click the earth iv forums in the first post.
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 17:04
My ns nation is over 1 billion but where are the forums. Also can someone tell me the rules. And can I claim Ireland?
Ireland is yours.
And the link to the Earth IV forums is on the first post.
Vintovia
12-07-2005, 17:06
Click the earth iv forums in the first post.

Ooops...My bad.

Ok, just so I dont look sad, I dint know those provs, I looked them up. Wait...Is that more sad?...Uh...Never mind.
The Lord Abbot
12-07-2005, 17:35
thanks
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 17:53
New rule proposal for discussion:

No bench warming.
Sharina
12-07-2005, 21:55
New rule proposal for discussion:

No bench warming.

Huh? Bench Warming? Never heard of that one before.
Whittier--
12-07-2005, 22:06
Huh? Bench Warming? Never heard of that one before.
Secret terminology. For members of earth IV only.
check the earth iv forum.
Warta Endor
24-07-2005, 15:07
I think the time's ripe for drastic action. I (and the rest of the Mod team) would really appreciate it if everyone posts something the coming week. Failure to do so will result in losing land in Earth IV.

And for people who want to join, there's room enough!
Tonissia
24-07-2005, 18:05
I would Like to Claim Virginia,But I warn you I'm Not A good RPer
Sharina
24-07-2005, 18:09
I would Like to Claim Virginia,Tennesee,Georgia and Floridia But I warn you I'm Not A good RPer

Unfortunately, I already own Virginia, Georgia, and Florida. I'm also about to annex Tennessee in a few NS weeks (already invaded it). I'm also about to seize Ohio and Kentucky within a few NS weeks (Part of my giant expansion). By this time tomorrow or Tuesday, those states would be mine.
Tonissia
24-07-2005, 18:25
Unfortunately, I already own Virginia, Georgia, and Florida. I'm also about to annex Tennessee in a few NS weeks (already invaded it). I'm also about to seize Ohio and Kentucky within a few NS weeks (Part of my giant expansion). By this time tomorrow or Tuesday, those states would be mine.

What About Wisconson

OOC **** Im Going To have To Change My Forum Name
Sharina
24-07-2005, 18:41
What About Wisconson

OOC **** Im Going To have To Change My Forum Name

If you can sign onto the Earth IV forums, and check out my "Operation Steel Heart" RP, you'll know which states are annexed / being invaded, and which states are "free".
Tonissia
24-07-2005, 18:48
If you can sign onto the Earth IV forums, and check out my "Operation Steel Heart" RP, you'll know which states are annexed / being invaded, and which states are "free". Well Technicly you've only Mobilized to Invaid Wisconson.I have Actaully Put a Claim to it Thus it techniclly Is Mine,But If you do let Me Have it I will Let you have acsess To All Of My Rescorses


OOC Sorry About The Lousy Typing Its not my Strong Suit
Sharina
24-07-2005, 18:57
The final decision is up to Whittier.

If he says you can have Wisconin, then we may end up fighting over it. If he says you have to choose another state, I suggest you could try for Minnesota, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, etc.

Just trying to help out, as messes do happen whenever someone is invading a state, nation, or province, then someone else claims it out from under their feet. That is quite messy, because then what happens to all the military units, civilians, war damage, etc? Do they poof into thin air, while the other player's military defenses poof into existence magically? This sort of stuff is quite crazy, you gotta admit.

I apologize if I sound exparasted or frustrated. I've had this happen to me before in other RP's on other Earth's, and it wasn't pretty.
Tonissia
24-07-2005, 19:09
The final decision is up to Whittier.

If he says you can have Wisconin, then we may end up fighting over it. If he says you have to choose another state, I suggest you could try for Minnesota, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, etc.

Just trying to help out, as messes do happen whenever someone is invading a state, nation, or province, then someone else claims it out from under their feet. That is quite messy, because then what happens to all the military units, civilians, war damage, etc? Do they poof into thin air, while the other player's military defenses poof into existence magically? This sort of stuff is quite crazy, you gotta admit.

I apologize if I sound exparasted or frustrated. I've had this happen to me before in other RP's on other Earth's, and it wasn't pretty.


How About we Split it
Sharina
24-07-2005, 19:22
How About we Split it

I'm willing to go with that.

However, we need to wait to hear from Whittier. He's the one who has the final say with claims and stuff.

Once again, I apologize if I sounded a little upset or came down on ya too hard. I've had this happen to me before and it didn't work out well. However, I hope this time it will work out, pending Whittier's approval. :)
Tonissia
24-07-2005, 19:31
I'm willing to go with that.

However, we need to wait to hear from Whittier. He's the one who has the final say with claims and stuff.

Once again, I apologize if I sounded a little upset or came down on ya too hard. I've had this happen to me before and it didn't work out well. However, I hope this time it will work out, pending Whittier's approval. :)

No Prob here is what I came up With If you want You Can Have Madison and Racine
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9279/wis9aj.png
Buben
24-07-2005, 19:44
What Mid East nation's are available...?
(Intrested in like Lebanon, Syria or Jordan, Only one of those)

Is Turkey or Bulgaria open still....?
Whittier--
25-07-2005, 02:28
Tonissia gets Wisconsin but it is under Sharinan invasion. Therefore, Tonissia needs to either defend or him and Sharina need to negotiate some sort of agreement.
Whittier--
12-08-2005, 14:57
How About we Split it
Done if you two accept it. Just post a map of who gets what.

BTW, the Eiv site is meant to list the various provinces and rules. The rps are meant to be done here on NS International.
Whittier--
12-08-2005, 14:59
What Mid East nation's are available...?
(Intrested in like Lebanon, Syria or Jordan, Only one of those)

Is Turkey or Bulgaria open still....?
yes.
Whittier--
20-08-2005, 04:01
People have until Monday morning to post something or lose their claims.
Whittier--
20-08-2005, 04:03
check the earth iv forum if you haven't already. There's been some changes and more are on the way. Like an easier claims list being created by Sharina.
Nationalist Oceania
21-08-2005, 15:07
Hey, it's me! Warta Endor disguised as Nationalist Oceania. Could I claim Cuba or if it is too much Granma, Santiago de Cuba, Guntanamo (the province) and Holguin. I'll give some more life to EarthIV!
Whittier--
21-08-2005, 23:26
Hey, it's me! Warta Endor disguised as Nationalist Oceania. Could I claim Cuba or if it is too much Granma, Santiago de Cuba, Guntanamo (the province) and Holguin. I'll give some more life to EarthIV!
consider them yours
Whittier--
10-09-2005, 22:21
Updated with a list of the territorial claims.
Sharina
10-09-2005, 22:41
Just a nitpick- I own Marlyand (which includes Washington DC). You put up me owning Washington DC, but not Maryland (which I should already own).
Whittier--
10-09-2005, 22:56
Consider them to be seperate. Maryland has been added to your claims.


This is a updated list. A couple of people who never posted anything have had their claims erased.
Frozopia
10-09-2005, 23:01
Can I still get in on this?
Supposedly Free People
10-09-2005, 23:08
Since I am new and have a population of five million, I would like to claim the Vatican. What sort of rules on religion do we have here? I don't think I found anything regarding that in the first post.
Whittier--
10-09-2005, 23:18
Can I still get in on this?
yes. Just click the link to the forums to see what provinces are available.
Whittier--
10-09-2005, 23:19
Since I am new and have a population of five million, I would like to claim the Vatican. What sort of rules on religion do we have here? I don't think I found anything regarding that in the first post.
No rules on religion exist at the moment. As long as it is reasonable.
Vatican is yours.
Supposedly Free People
11-09-2005, 02:13
I looked at your maps and resources guides, and now I realize that having the Vatican is silly... can I change to Jharkhand, an Indian province?
Whittier--
11-09-2005, 02:39
I looked at your maps and resources guides, and now I realize that having the Vatican is silly... can I change to Jharkhand, an Indian province?
It's yours. Will update the list in a moment.
Poland-
15-09-2005, 04:51
Hi. I believe I've already claimed Mazowieckie on the Earth IV forums. I guess I'm just clarifying it here.
Whittier--
15-09-2005, 19:27
Hi. I believe I've already claimed Mazowieckie on the Earth IV forums. I guess I'm just clarifying it here.
yes. The reason we are doing it that is to advertise the earth.
Poland-
15-09-2005, 19:31
So this is all I really have to do here on NS? Just say that I claimed [insert country/province/island here] and that's that?
Whittier--
15-09-2005, 19:37
So this is all I really have to do here on NS? Just say that I claimed [insert country/province/island here] and that's that?
I would prefer that you rp'd something. For example I noticed your claim is landlocked and prevents you from having a navy. Expanding into a neighboring province could give you access to the sea and let you have a navy.

The rp's can be here or they can be on the Earth IV forum. It's up to you. Reason I ask people to rp here is so Earth IV will become more visible. Speaking of which, in a few days, Sharina or Warta Endor, should be taking over as Admin.
Tonissia
15-09-2005, 21:26
I see every thing but My Original Claim of Eastern Wisconson
Whittier--
16-09-2005, 03:22
I see every thing but My Original Claim of Eastern Wisconson
Ok. I wasn't sure who had what. I just knew you had shared it with Sharina.
Whittier--
19-09-2005, 00:08
Whose the new admin? I need to give him or them the admin password. I only got a couple of days to do it.
Vietnamexico
19-09-2005, 00:19
I would like to claim Holland and Burgundy
Sharina
19-09-2005, 00:25
Whose the new admin? I need to give him or them the admin password. I only got a couple of days to do it.

I'd be honored to become the admin of Earth IV. I heard you're quitting NS, Whittier. I'm sad to see you go, but at the same I can't help but wonder why you're quitting NS. Is it the n00bish behavior in NS? Or the lack of RP's? Or no more ambition for NS?
Whittier--
22-09-2005, 05:27
I'd be honored to become the admin of Earth IV. I heard you're quitting NS, Whittier. I'm sad to see you go, but at the same I can't help but wonder why you're quitting NS. Is it the n00bish behavior in NS? Or the lack of RP's? Or no more ambition for NS?
The spot is yours.

I'm only quitting for a year. God has seen fit to send me to the land of Abraham.
Whittier--
22-09-2005, 05:40
Sharina you now have admin status. My last post. bye.
Aysheaia
22-09-2005, 16:28
How active is this, and what is the focus going to be?

I'm interested in a modern-tech RL-based RP where diplomacy, trade relations, and the like happen (as opposed to being simply a wargame). I'd like to give Earth IV a try as the Republic of the Philippines (I've got more than a billion population) and see if it works out for me.

:D
Sharina
22-09-2005, 21:16
How active is this, and what is the focus going to be?

I'm interested in a modern-tech RL-based RP where diplomacy, trade relations, and the like happen (as opposed to being simply a wargame). I'd like to give Earth IV a try as the Republic of the Philippines (I've got more than a billion population) and see if it works out for me.

:D

I'm in the process of trying to reform Earth IV, and make it more active. What we need to do is to advertise, and let people know that Earth IV is still around and there's still plenty of land available for everybody.

I assume you must be the "Phillipines" user-name at the Earth IV forums- if so, you should read my response and you'll know what I mean.
Whittier--
24-09-2005, 02:32
Sharina, are you able to access your admin powers?
Sharina
24-09-2005, 02:38
Sharina, are you able to access your admin powers?

I'm able to access it through "Admin (CP)".
Whittier--
24-09-2005, 02:43
I'm able to access it through "Admin (CP)".
good. I was checking to make sure it worked. And I made a suggestion regarding mr. Phillipines.
Whittier--
04-11-2005, 14:37
Earth IV is back.
Whittier--
13-12-2005, 03:39
Earth IV will be switching over from NS Economy calculator to the NS Tracker. When making purchases or sales or figuring military budgets, nations will have to convert their budgets from their home currency into US currency.
This method is fairer than the other one.
Whittier---
29-01-2006, 19:11
This earth will soon be restarted with new rules. Any nation currently owning territory on Earth IV that is still active on the forums, whether in their original form or a new form, will keep their lands.
Unless, of course, you had to restart for something that was deliberately your fault.
Also there will be new rules for the earth iv forum.
The military ratios are now going to be based on research that was done.
Hataria
29-01-2006, 20:22
This earth will soon be restarted with new rules. Any nation currently owning territory on Earth IV that is still active on the forums, whether in their original form or a new form, will keep their lands.
Unless, of course, you had to restart for something that was deliberately your fault.
Also there will be new rules for the earth iv forum.
The military ratios are now going to be based on research that was done.

Does it also Meen that We can have More Nations to add to our Empires??
Whittier---
29-01-2006, 22:05
Does it also Meen that We can have More Nations to add to our Empires??
Depends on your member status.
Sharina
30-01-2006, 01:12
One problem...

The Earth Craze kind of died out- the activity on all the Earths besides Earth II and E20 (the alternate history one) have died out. Look at Earth V- it still exists but only 10 RP posts in the last 2 RL months or so.

Unless something exciting or major were to happen to Earth IV or the other Earth Series to revitalize interest in RP'ing and such in these Earth's, it will be extremely difficult to get Earth IV active RP-wise.

Besides, I've lost a lot of interest in MT warfare because of E20 (right now E20 is going through 1939 - 1950's era) and because almost everyone in mainstream NS wanks up their military with uber-tech and uber-stuff that I don't have the time to analyze and figure out. I can't be bothered to research counter-measures to the tanks, planes, missiles, ships, etc. that have 10+ weapon systems and/or defenses mounted on them.

I far prefer to do peace-time RP's, character RP's, and civilian RP's. You could say I'm of the same breed as Schultaria Prime and Lindim- the very rare RP'er that doesn't jump into war or embrace war RP'ing.
Hataria
30-01-2006, 14:32
One problem...

The Earth Craze kind of died out- the activity on all the Earths besides Earth II and E20 (the alternate history one) have died out. Look at Earth V- it still exists but only 10 RP posts in the last 2 RL months or so.

Unless something exciting or major were to happen to Earth IV or the other Earth Series to revitalize interest in RP'ing and such in these Earth's, it will be extremely difficult to get Earth IV active RP-wise.

Besides, I've lost a lot of interest in MT warfare because of E20 (right now E20 is going through 1939 - 1950's era) and because almost everyone in mainstream NS wanks up their military with uber-tech and uber-stuff that I don't have the time to analyze and figure out. I can't be bothered to research counter-measures to the tanks, planes, missiles, ships, etc. that have 10+ weapon systems and/or defenses mounted on them.

I far prefer to do peace-time RP's, character RP's, and civilian RP's. You could say I'm of the same breed as Schultaria Prime and Lindim- the very rare RP'er that doesn't jump into war or embrace war RP'ing.


Well, Uber-tech is more for FT and the only Uberthings I use are two Big Battleships (The ones that go by sea) The Neherenia and The Black Dragon classes of Battleships.

The Neherenia Class is about the size of That German Battleship that everyone knows, The Bismark. The Black Dragon is even Bigger, The size of two Bismarks.
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 00:48
One problem...

The Earth Craze kind of died out- the activity on all the Earths besides Earth II and E20 (the alternate history one) have died out. Look at Earth V- it still exists but only 10 RP posts in the last 2 RL months or so.

Unless something exciting or major were to happen to Earth IV or the other Earth Series to revitalize interest in RP'ing and such in these Earth's, it will be extremely difficult to get Earth IV active RP-wise.

Besides, I've lost a lot of interest in MT warfare because of E20 (right now E20 is going through 1939 - 1950's era) and because almost everyone in mainstream NS wanks up their military with uber-tech and uber-stuff that I don't have the time to analyze and figure out. I can't be bothered to research counter-measures to the tanks, planes, missiles, ships, etc. that have 10+ weapon systems and/or defenses mounted on them.

I far prefer to do peace-time RP's, character RP's, and civilian RP's. You could say I'm of the same breed as Schultaria Prime and Lindim- the very rare RP'er that doesn't jump into war or embrace war RP'ing.
You're a mature rper. Most mature rpers aren't interested in wars and stuff. They want mostly national development and character development rps. I tried doing a crime rp, but the thread and both my nations, including my main one, were deleted. All of sudden the nation name Naked Teenage Girls is obscene. Nevermind the mods approved it a few months back.
Anyways, that I want Earth IV to be more like.
Sharina
31-01-2006, 01:03
You're a mature rper. Most mature rpers aren't interested in wars and stuff. They want mostly national development and character development rps. I tried doing a crime rp, but the thread and both my nations, including my main one, were deleted. All of sudden the nation name Naked Teenage Girls is obscene. Nevermind the mods approved it a few months back.
Anyways, that I want Earth IV to be more like.

If there's anything I can do to help Earth IV be a mature RP'ing enviroment, just let me know. I just don't want mindless warmongering or uber-planes, uber-tanks, and such that are difficult to grasp the technical details.
Sharina
31-01-2006, 01:22
You're a mature rper. Most mature rpers aren't interested in wars and stuff. They want mostly national development and character development rps. I tried doing a crime rp, but the thread and both my nations, including my main one, were deleted. All of sudden the nation name Naked Teenage Girls is obscene. Nevermind the mods approved it a few months back.
Anyways, that I want Earth IV to be more like.

If there's anything I can do to help Earth IV be a mature RP'ing enviroment, just let me know. I just don't want mindless warmongering or uber-planes, uber-tanks, and such that are difficult to grasp the technical details.
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 01:33
If there's anything I can do to help Earth IV be a mature RP'ing enviroment, just let me know. I just don't want mindless warmongering or uber-planes, uber-tanks, and such that are difficult to grasp the technical details.
That's why I am revamping the rules. The whole point system was to supposed to encourage mature rping, but I think it just confused people.
One of the things I've done, is I've upped the support requirements for airforces from 7 to 22. I'm thinking of doing the same with the navy. This will make it harder for people to develop uber armies and go off attacking everywhich way.
Also, that is the original reason for the tech rules. It is the burden of the tech developer to prove that his tech is feasible. That is why, if someone comes out with a tech, he must give at least 5 sources proving it is feasible, but at the same time, he is also required to give 5 sources that counter that it is not feasable. This, I believe, will go along way toward avoiding the uber teching problem. Make the tech developer argue both sides.

But if you got any suggestions, I'm open. What ever makes Earth IV a better rp place. The only thing is that it has to keep the break down of the nations into their provinces. So that there is room for anyone else who wants to join up.
There are so many lands you can expand. You don't have to do it be by. You can do it by negotiations and referendums. All you have to do is rp them out. A good referendum rp should be at least 20 posts. And it should have character rps included in it. To show how the merger and what not, affect common people in your country. So, what I encourage people to do, is, instead of just rping Presidents and what nots, rp some common people in your country.
Sharina
31-01-2006, 01:50
My sentiments exactly- the tech'er needs to provide some suggestions on how to defeat his or her new tech, unlike most of NS that goes "I refuse to tell you how to beat me" then that leads to tech wankage or tank+1, plane+1, etc. in efforts to overpower through brute force.

Right now, I think the biggest problem for E-IV is that we need more mature / seasoned RP'ers to join. Any ideas how we can do that?
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 02:10
My sentiments exactly- the tech'er needs to provide some suggestions on how to defeat his or her new tech, unlike most of NS that goes "I refuse to tell you how to beat me" then that leads to tech wankage or tank+1, plane+1, etc. in efforts to overpower through brute force.

Right now, I think the biggest problem for E-IV is that we need more mature / seasoned RP'ers to join. Any ideas how we can do that?
I'd recommend someone like IDF, Redtide, and a couple of others. I'd include Euroslavia but I think he's too busy around here with his duties and all.
The Nationstates forum would probably be a good place to find mature rpers. That's where most of the mature ones supposedly hang out.
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 02:24
Tonissia and Hogsweat are also both good.
Sharina
31-01-2006, 02:37
Thats good, but it will only work if they're interested in Earth IV RP'ing, considering they may be busy with their own NS RP's.

By the way, I'm not sure how well recieved Earth IV will be on the NS forums as I'm not sure if the whole I.I. vs NS forum thing is still going on.
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 02:54
Thats good, but it will only work if they're interested in Earth IV RP'ing, considering they may be busy with their own NS RP's.

By the way, I'm not sure how well recieved Earth IV will be on the NS forums as I'm not sure if the whole I.I. vs NS forum thing is still going on.

I was not aware of the whole II vs NS thing. What's that about?
The people in NS, prefer to just rp in general as far as I know. But they would probably have some ideas for making Earth IV a more mature rp place.
Sharina
31-01-2006, 02:57
I was not aware of the whole II vs NS thing. What's that about?
The people in NS, prefer to just rp in general as far as I know. But they would probably have some ideas for making Earth IV a more mature rp place.

From what I know, the people on NS forums don't like I.I. in general, and vice-versa. Both forum communities kind of snob / shun each other, so something in I.I. probably will be hard to get NS forum'ers to get involved in, and something in NS forums will be hard to get I.I. to stay in and RP in.

I dunno if this has changed recently or not.
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 03:05
Hmm. I wonder what the whole point of that is?
I always thought that NS forum was supposed to be character rps and national development and other internal nation rp stuff and II was for war, diplomacy and other international related stuff.
Tonissia
31-01-2006, 03:06
Tonissia and Hogsweat are also both good.


Your kidding:confused:
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 03:09
Your kidding:confused:
no. Your posts are pretty good. What happened to your post count btw?
Tonissia
31-01-2006, 03:14
What happened to your post count btw?

Nothing
Whittier---
31-01-2006, 03:15
for some reason I forgot you were one of the newer guys. But your posts are still pretty good.