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East Benarvia Airbase (flight testing)

Benarvia
08-07-2005, 00:28
Welcome to East Benarvia Airbase, you will find facilities here for all your componentry, specialised Hangars for your Prototypes, and a heavily armed guard to protect your investments....

Over the next few days we will compare each of your aircraft, and come to a decision based on a number of factors over which a significant contract will be settled.

We also have prepared a number of electronic devices to allow a mock-dogfight between the competing aircraft- and we hope this will allow us to see the cream rise to the top.

The rest now lies with you gentlemen, best of luck, and we will be watching ;)

(OOC, please RP your flight testing here)
BLACKGRUE
08-07-2005, 01:12
(MT or FT?)
Space Union
08-07-2005, 01:22
Our first two prototypes are being shipped to the base. They are the F-316Bs (Long-Range Version). Flight testing will begin shortly after infrastructure has been setup. We hope that it will meet your nation's expectations.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries

OOC: Here's the specs:

The F-316B is a a new version constructed by Tylon Aerospace Industries. It is the result of a request by one of the customers for a long-range F-316 capable of escorting bomber aircrafts, paticularlly the B-300 Hurricane. Designers have modified the F-316 tremendously. First of all, the F-316 has been enlarged by 35% to accomadate fuel for the long-range flights. The range has increased by more than 2.7x. The aircraft has also been constructed from Inconel superalloy. Inconel is a very durable, very strong, very crossive resistant, very flexible, and very capable of handling high temperatures. This has resulted in slight increase in weight for the aircraft although it has been enlarged because of the use of Inconel.

In order to further improve the F-316B's capabilities, its regular thrust vectoring nozzles have been replaced by a fluidic nozzles. A fluidic nozzle diverts the thrust via fluid effects. Tests have shown that air forced into the exhaust stream can effect deflected thrust of up to 15 degrees. Fluidic nozzles are desirable for their lower weight, mechanical simplicity (no moving surfaces) and lower radar cross section. This change has decreased the cost of the entire aircraft while lowering its RCS and maintaince costs, while delivering the same reliability and performance of the origional F-316A. The nozzle also allows for the F-316B to have VTOL capabilities not found on the F-316A. This greatly expands its mobility and capabilities.

With the enhancement in performance, the price of the F-316B has gone up. Although it has gone up $10 million, because of standardization of Inconel, engines, and parts being mass produced, the price is much lower than if it didn't have these attributes. But with increasing orders, the price will fall to below $95 million upon mass production and full-rate production.

Specifications:

Height: 16.8 m
Length: 81.3 m
Wingspan: 58 m
Propulsion: 4 Union-43B rated at 60,000 lbs of thrust each
Empty Weight: 120,000 kg
Full Weight: 220,000 kg
Normal Payload: 40,000 kg
Maximum Payload: 42,000 kg
Armenant: 20 Holdings for Air to Air Missiles or Air to Ground Missiles (10 Inside and 6 on wings and 2 on belly and 2 on side of fuselage)
Cruising Speed: Mach 3.0
Maximum Speed: Mach 3.5
Operational Ceiling: 80,000 ft
Maximum Ceiling: 92,000 ft
Range: 16,200 km
Crew: 2
Price: $120 million

Picture (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/Blackbird-SR-71/F-316.bmp)

*Note* The thrust vectoring allows for vertical take-off and landing (VTOL). Also the hooks for the missiles can be resized so that it can hold any type of bomb under 10,000 lbs.
Benarvia
08-07-2005, 01:28
(MT or FT?)

MT :)
imported_Illior
08-07-2005, 02:05
OOC: Looks like I made a mistake on my priceing(?), seeing as you have a much larger Aircraft, meaning more materials and engines, and now that I think about it, compared to yours, I should be selling mine for about 60-80 million, seeing as you're using some odd metal that I'd guess would be pretty expensive while I'd be using titanium composites, and not as many Stealthy materials...and a Note to you SU, just having the payload rreally doesn't tell people how many missles it can hold, or bombs, you gotta tell people how many it can Hold, and upgraded stats for my Fighter will be in soon...
Benarvia
08-07-2005, 03:15
OOC- i don't mind any adjustments you guys want to make to make your bids more competitive, or your aircraft more effective- i just need to know when you believe your aircraft is as good as it can be- your final offering so to speak. I can edit my past posts if they make reference to something you wish to change.....besides you have a hangar and tools etc where you could fully mod your prototype anyway- feel free to RP a spy mission or something ;)

I guess that any changes will be good for you and for me, as it will improve your marketability to other clients (and tech intrigue is kinda cool)

I'm looking forward to your RP reactions to the other aircraft....

I hope that you do not object to my method of selection, and any tips for how you would like the tests run i will listen to keenly.

Ultimately i will spend a lot of dosh on the successfull bid(s)- yes there may be multiple winners ;)

Imported- perhaps you can market on smaller potential radar detection area, or lower running costs? Fewer crew would be another way to make a aircraft more cost effective i suppose....
Space Union
08-07-2005, 03:28
OOC: Looks like I made a mistake on my priceing(?), seeing as you have a much larger Aircraft, meaning more materials and engines, and now that I think about it, compared to yours, I should be selling mine for about 60-80 million, seeing as you're using some odd metal that I'd guess would be pretty expensive while I'd be using titanium composites, and not as many Stealthy materials...and a Note to you SU, just having the payload rreally doesn't tell people how many missles it can hold, or bombs, you gotta tell people how many it can Hold, and upgraded stats for my Fighter will be in soon...

I currently don't have the time so I didn't put it up but I intend to do it tomorrow when I have more time.
imported_Illior
08-07-2005, 03:29
OOC- i don't mind any adjustments you guys want to make to make your bids more competitive, or your aircraft more effective- i just need to know when you believe your aircraft is as good as it can be- your final offering so to speak. I can edit my past posts if they make reference to something you wish to change.....besides you have a hangar and tools etc where you could fully mod your prototype anyway- feel free to RP a spy mission or something ;)

I guess that any changes will be good for you and for me, as it will improve your marketability to other clients (and tech intrigue is kinda cool)

I'm looking forward to your RP reactions to the other aircraft....

I hope that you do not object to my method of selection, and any tips for how you would like the tests run i will listen to keenly.

Ultimately i will spend a lot of dosh on the successfull bid(s)- yes there may be multiple winners ;)

Imported- perhaps you can market on smaller potential radar detection area, or lower running costs? Fewer crew would be another way to make a aircraft more cost effective i suppose....

OOC:Never really mentioned running costs, but as soon as standardization completes tommorow around noon EDT(US) it'll be lower than before, and I'll try to RP the arrival tommorow morning.
Mondoth
08-07-2005, 06:13
OOC: Both of my fighters are actually just being phased out of use with our IAr force, we never sell the best we have, although the demonstrations might include 'optional' equipment that is either currently in use or has never been used by our military.
If you want to see the stats of our bids, please follow the link in my signature to The Nine Military Storefront, the stats are on the last page of the thread.



Both our aircraft are now being flown in, our ground crews are being flown in on a Mondoth Air VC-225 and if possible, would like to land at the same facility/ on board is also a small (6 men) contingent of Mondothian Special forces armed with PG-11 hand guns, G-11 assault rifles and various non lethal weapons. By request of the client nation these security personel may be required to leave any or all of their weapons on board the VC-225.

Both Fighters will be using our new Rocket launch/recovery assist system to land vertically with a full combat load, we'd like like to see any of our competitors try to pull that one off.
Benarvia
08-07-2005, 06:55
*The Grand Marshall greets the news of your expected arrival by pre recorded sat-phone message*

Greetings,

We look forward to your arrival and i hope you will find our facility to your liking.... generally new, state of the art facilities like this would be off limits to your security personnel- however our other sensitive technologies have been moved off-site, so only the competeing aircraft and some target drones will be at this airbase.... with heavy Benarvian Security of course...and so we will allow your six man contingent to accompany your aircraft. We would prefer, however, if the assault rifles could remain in your larger aircraft as a sign of goodwill.

Please make use of our facilities, and make yourself at home as we await the arrival of the other companies.... our chief aeronautical engineers will begin to examine your aircraft once you advise us it is ready.

Thankyou for your prompt advice.

:cool:
imported_Illior
08-07-2005, 13:09
OOC: Here's the new stats, and the pic...

Designation: IG-45
Purpose: Long range escort/ Interceptor
Main contractors: Haaj Airworks, Have Ho engines
Length:110'(115' with refueling probe extended)
Width: 57"
Height: 20"
Crew: 2
Propulsion: Two highly fuel efficient Have-ho-19's@ 40,000lbs each
Weapons:
2 30 MM rotary cannons(1 forward, one aft)
10 stations for missles(four can hold external fuel tanks)
Range:3,500 Nautical Miles(can be upto 4,500 w/extra tanks)Unlimited with In air refueling
Top speed:Mach 2.7
Super cruise: Mach 2
Cruising speed/most efficeint: Mach 1.5
Systems:
HVAHUD (Helmet Visual and Audio Heads Up Display)
PSAWMAWS (Pilot Situational Awareness Warning and Missile Approach Warning System)
Ar-3 Radar
Soa-4 Incoming weapon warning and countermeasure deployment system( Controls Rear 30MM fletchette cannon to shoot the missles out of the air)
Construction Price:65 Million
Selling Price:Between 67-83 Million depending on order size and who orders, and demand.
Running costs(Not including fuel) between .5-1.5 million depending on availibility of parts and demand for them...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/images/sr71-1_300.jpg
(It's of an SR-71, but thats what gave me the idea of design)

"EB Tower, this Illior Test Flight Gamma Zulu Tango One Five Niner, Requesting landing permission, from heading oh eight four, arrival should be within the next half hour, over" Col. Hector T. Belvue said over the radio, As usual, I gotta be oneuftha first people to actually test this aircraft... I'm supposed to be on vacation...

Shortly after, almost the same message transmitted from the other Plane
Space Union
08-07-2005, 19:32
Updated Specs :) Flight testing will begin shortly.
Space Union
08-07-2005, 19:39
Added Pic of F-316B. :)
Mondoth
08-07-2005, 22:36
Our Security officers are actually looking forward to the chance to lay down the assault rifles for a while (not that they're heavy or bulky or anything but youfeel vaguely ridiculous walking around a friendly airbase with an automatic weapon strapped to your chest). Our aircraft will be ready for any inspection immediately after post flight checks however for initial inspections the aircraft will both be unfueled, power for cockpit and control surface inspections will be supplied by a portable generator instead of the onboard generators. Full power tests and inspection can be made later when we have fully set up and when we have fully interfaced with the on site staff and security.
Space Union
09-07-2005, 18:52
It was a summer morning at the base. The air was warm enough to enjoy yet not too hot to be miserable. The base was in full activity, at least the Space Union side. Today was the big day. Today the F-316B would lift-off for the first time into the air. Not only that, but it would be the first prototype to lift-off of the runway, of any of the other competitors. This naturally gave Tylon Aerospace Industries a slight advantage and cloat.

As the flight crew got into the aircraft for the first time, they were amazed. Both crew members, Pilot Yerman and Weapons Officer Uran, were seasoned F-316A crewmen but the F-316B was much more different. They knew it was more powerful. As the canopy began to slide down both felt empowered, as if they now were the aircraft. Finally the canopy closed and the aircraft began being taxied to the runway. Both pilots looked at the crowd waiting for them outside of the hanger. They could see the sense of amazement in the eyes of the onlookers. They were flying a beauty.

As they got near the runway, the taxy seperated from the aircraft and left the runway. As both crew members strapped in, Pilot Yerman yelled to his of Uran:

Yerman: You ready!

Uran: Push it!

Once said, it was done. Yerman pushed the throttle as the aircraft took to life. It started accelerating quickly and faster than the origional F-316. In a couple of seconds, they were ready to lift-off. As the runway quickly began coming to an end, Yerman lifted the nose of the aircraft up. Secretly he was hoping that it would fly. As the nose went up the aircraft pushed itself right into the air. It was a smooth take-off. As the aircraft began climbing higher and higher, both of the men looked at awe at the runway disappearing into the background. Yerman steadied the aircraft at 60,000 ft. Although it wasn't even near the maximum height, he wanted to play safe this time. Immediatly both officers checked the diagnoses of the aircraft. Everything was intact.

The F-316B cruised for a while as both officers got the hang of things. As they neared 15 minutes in the flight, Yerman started pushing the throttle again. He wanted to break the sound barrier on the first time. As the aircraft began accelerating quickly he could feel the aircraft hop past the sound barrier like it was made out of paper. Funny he thought, 50 years back people couldn't even imagine going past Mach 1. As the aircraft cruised past Mach 1 to Mach 1.2 and faster, Uran radioed into base:

Uran: We've just broken the sound barrier. We're accelerating as of now. We are aiming to go to at least Mach 2.

Flight Manager: Don't go past Mach 2.3. We want to make sure that everything is fine to the structure of the aircraft after the flight. This thing is pratically a different aircraft from the F-316A.

Uran: Yes, Sir!

As the plane accelerated faster and faster, Yerman began tipping the nose up again. He wanted to go fast and high to impress the onlookers. As the aircraft quickly reached 70,000 ft, he radioed into command:

Yerman: 70,000 ft now

Uran began looking at the diagnoses of the plane again. Nothing yet, so he told Yerman to push it. Yerman quickly pushed the throttle further as he pushed past Mach 1.8 and finally past Mach 2. As he did that, the plane achieved a altitude of 82,000 ft.

As the plane cruised, officers on the ground were impressed. Very faboulous one thought.

Up in the sky, the aircraft was slowing down as it started procedures for touch-down. As the aircraft got near the runway, Yerman tilted the nose up slightly to have a good landing. As the runway got only a few feet below the aircraft, Yerman maintained the nose. Finally the gears touched down on the runway. It had been a successful flight.
imported_Illior
09-07-2005, 20:13
OOC: Benarvia, I'm just Assuming you cleared them for landing on a random runway (59B Right), to help move it along a Little
IC:
Hector took off the autopilot as he went through is prelanding rituals of checking every system, and a short prayer to the Illiorian god of air, Myphis.
Just as he began His decent, an alarm went off. Hector, with years of experience behind him, calmly accepted the semi annoying female voice going "Missle lock, Missle lock" that kept repeating over about every other second. "Hey, Slammer, You just got splashed," Sergeant Jason L. Keisler gleefully told him over his comm set.
Dammit, why do I always get stuck with these GOD DAMMED MAVERICS! Hector thought to himself as he kept descending, and deciding to let his wingman have some fun.
Benarvia
10-07-2005, 06:15
OOC- sorry and old friend came to town unexpectedly.

Space- was that test at benarvia or at your own facility? I assume it was at benarvia- but i will add the descrip to my post once you confirm....

IC-

Chief Flight controller Wilson watched the incoming aircraft closely. His sensors told him that weapons systems were being used... but the direction of the targeting was not right for an attack on his installation.... still, the SAM batteries targetted the aircraft automatically, and other defence systems stood ready....Just in case....

On Runway 59b a large gathering stood waiting..... dignitaries and a large brass band stood impatiently, a scrum of 'selected' (read: pro government) media personnel with cameras ready, and several large civilians with coats that seemed a bit more bulgy than normal stood at even distances around the group... nothing could go wrong within Benarvian borders, or the nations selling these aircraft might become somewhat hostile.....

Meanwhile Benarvia's current HW-350 fighter aircraft http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/BountyHunter/benarviafighter2.jpg , modest by todays standards, flew a constant CAP over the airbase.... monitoring the incoming aircraft and enjoying the job for which they were heavily paid..... Flight Officer Morris, leading the current airborne group, watched the IG-45's and wondered if he would soon be flying one himself..... Though he had heard the other aircraft were equally appealing :cool:
Mondoth
10-07-2005, 09:00
The sleek VC-225 comercial jet set down first, with its ultraquiet engines integrated into the fuselage the aircraft looked vaguely like a fighter and handled just as well as a fighter. To an untrained eye, the jetliner looked alone in the sky. Good or assisted eyes could make out a pair of darker blue splotches flying very high. as they descended they became more distinctly fighter aircraft but were still shadowy. finally, as the passed just above the airstrip the pilots flicked a switch sending the SX-24 and SF-41/A fighters into full ceremonial red and yellow in an eye blink. the now almost painfully visible fighters killed their forward velocity almost as fast as they had changed color and began descending on slender jets of flame. The landing was timed perfectly and both fighters had just lightly kissed the ground when both sets of solid fuel rockets went out allowing the fighters to settle fully on extended landing struts. Both pilots climbed out of their aircraft wearing the brilliant red and gold flightsuits of Mondothina Demonstration pilots.
(OOC: aircraft shown here equipped with optional features)
Space Union
10-07-2005, 15:47
Benarvia-Yep it happened at your air base. :)

Mondoth: That rocket system is unadvisable. It will eat tons and tons of fuel. Using rockets on a aircraft for any reason is a no-no. :)
imported_Illior
10-07-2005, 16:12
"hey slammer, should we land these girls the illioiran way?" Mav. asked over the secure comm line
"Might as well, since we'll be showin them off, but be careful going into reverse thrust, these engines pack one hell of a punch," Slammer called back, and then called the tower,"Be advised, double landing is being executed,"
Shortly thereafter, the two IG-45's pulled themselves within a foot of the other's wingtip
"Flaps at optimal in 3...2...1..,"
"Roger and done"
"Ease airspeed to 1..2..0.. Knots in 3...2...1.."
"roger and done"
"Touchdown in 5,"
"Roger"
As Slammer Felt the slight bump as his IG-45 touched down, said loudly into his commset," FULL REVERSE THRUST NOW!"
"Done" Mav said as his aircraft slowed down so quickly, he would have gotten wiplash, if it wasn't for his suit and helmet combo "YEAH! I love flying this baby!"
"Just wait till we get into combat trials with other much larger and faster and maybe even more manuverable fighters, the on great thing about this girl is she's so responsive, Now taxi towards that masive crowd over there, still wingtip..."
a minute or two passed as the pair of IG-45's finnally rolled to a stop at the crowd, and the hatch popped, and the pilots had to wait for a minute or two for the ladders to come, and out of the cockpits, two green and massive headed, almost alien looking, Pilots climbed out of their respective cockpits, and pulled out their flight gear, and finally, pulled off their helmets, and finally appearing human.
Mav and Slam, both went over their post flight routines before going over to the crowd, their duty to their aircraft and themselves, and found nothing wrong with their aircraft. They soon walked over to the crowd, carrying just themselves, and their briefcases, and stood confused, looking for the head honcho they were suppose to meet.
Mondoth
10-07-2005, 19:10
Benarvia-Yep it happened at your air base. :)

Mondoth: That rocket system is unadvisable. It will eat tons and tons of fuel. Using rockets on a aircraft for any reason is a no-no. :)

The rockets used are optional solid fuel lift assisters (Basically modified JTOWS), they're one shot vertical/short takeoff/landing assisters that don't use any of the aircrafts fuel supply. In fact, all Mondothian Aircraft use methane injecting turbojets for thrust, which are much more fuel efficient than almost any other jet thruster
Space Union
10-07-2005, 19:23
The rockets used are optional solid fuel lift assisters (Basically modified JTOWS), they're one shot vertical/short takeoff/landing assisters that don't use any of the aircrafts fuel supply. In fact, all Mondothian Aircraft use methane injecting turbojets for thrust, which are much more fuel efficient than almost any other jet thruster

Still the amount of solid fuel needed to lift a fully loaded aircraft vertical would easily make the aircraft extremely overweight. Also if its only one-shot than it will be expensive to keep on refueling it. Also maintaince will be horrible for this. I advice you to not let that be part of the design.

Also any turbojet, no matter the fuel, is not as efficient as a turbofan because of the bypassing air featured in turbofans. Actually you won't even be able to be more efficent than a turboprop. Just to let you know ;)
Mondoth
10-07-2005, 20:42
OOC: Maybe I got the engine type wrong, so many turbos to remember. anyway, the lift assist is an OPTIONAL feature designed to allow defense fighters too easily and quickly respond to an air attck from any location, it also makes an impressive display to have a combat loaded fighter land vertically. As for massive amounts of fuel, C-130 cargo aircraft routinely use Jtows (he basis of the rocket lift assisters) to takeoff and land on GREATLY reduced length runways, you can't tell me a fighter weighs more than a cargo aircraft.
Space Union
10-07-2005, 20:55
OOC: Maybe I got the engine type wrong, so many turbos to remember. anyway, the lift assist is an OPTIONAL feature designed to allow defense fighters too easily and quickly respond to an air attck from any location, it also makes an impressive display to have a combat loaded fighter land vertically. As for massive amounts of fuel, C-130 cargo aircraft routinely use Jtows (he basis of the rocket lift assisters) to takeoff and land on GREATLY reduced length runways, you can't tell me a fighter weighs more than a cargo aircraft.

Yes but from what I remember, the C-130 can carry much more fuel than a fighter can. ;)
Mondoth
10-07-2005, 21:51
OOC: I was kinda hoping you'd look up the JTOWs oh well, I wouldn't have either. The rocket Lift Assisters donnot use the fighters fuel, they have their own, solid rocket fuel supply internal to the system itself which does not take up any of the fighters fuel supply. if you really wanted to you could take one that is not attached to an aircraft and use it to launch a chair or a piano or just about anything else you wanted to, and those have signifigantly less fuel than a C-130 (As in, none)
imported_Illior
10-07-2005, 23:14
OOC: I was kinda hoping you'd look up the JTOWs oh well, I wouldn't have either. The rocket Lift Assisters donnot use the fighters fuel, they have their own, solid rocket fuel supply internal to the system itself which does not take up any of the fighters fuel supply. if you really wanted to you could take one that is not attached to an aircraft and use it to launch a chair or a piano or just about anything else you wanted to, and those have signifigantly less fuel than a C-130 (As in, none)
OOC:As I remember about JTOWs, they're rocket assist pods that are attaached to the side of an aircraft, and are then dropped once the plane is barely off the runway, although I didn't realize they used those on landing, I thought they'd use parachutes.
Mondoth
10-07-2005, 23:28
OOC: the Jtows are usually for takeoff assists, these are modified to allow them to be used for either takeoff or landing. anyway, this discussion is kindof taking over the thread, lets try and keep this thing rolling.
Benarvia
11-07-2005, 00:59
OOC- i will prep a full RP intro linking you all together tonight ;)

Lets not get nasty with each other.....remember its an opportunity to compare notes :)

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The Grand Air Marshall mounted the podium in front of the selected crowd and took a good long look at each of the aircraft before he even acknowledged the crowd... after all, people came and went much quicker than a good plane.... and he knew in his hands would rest the ultimate say in the decision that could shape his potential political career, and even the fate of the nation. Each had its own beauty, but Hudson knew sometimes the ugliest plane was the best for the job.... so he did not let fancy lights or exotic colours cloud his judgement.... he was a calculating man, and in this he knew that once these aircraft began testing in earnest the stats and sensors would take a lot of the guesswork out of thin air and put it on microdisc for all to see...
Finally, he spoke;

"Greetings Your royal highness, dignitaries, members of the joint chiefs of staff, Benarvian ace of aces pilot and chief flight tester Rick Dorman, the Benarvian Warhawk squadron, the press, and of course our aircraft representatives."
As he spoke he panned the audience with his steely gaze, picking out the foreign faces, and specially the pilots of these planes.... he wondered just what they would do to impress....what they would do to win....
"Today marks the beginning of a potential new era, as Benarvia looks toward the future, and the safety of her borders- as you are no doubt all aware, the protection of national power is paramount to the discouragement of pur enemies and the maintaining of our friends...."
The crowd nodded, not that anyone from Benarvia would disagree with the King's favourite officer....
"It is this very consideration that marks the purchase of the new Hurricane Bomber fleet for our proud nation, but with one upgrade comes the need for more to keep our forces compatable..."
Murmurs of understanding from the pilots envelop the crowd...
"and so the next step in our glorious advance is a fighter designed to complement our bomber fleet- and in this search we have found three main companies who each offer a number superb aircraft, including the ones you see before you which we believe will fill this role"
The crow turns to admire the aircraft....
"Thus over the next week, each aircraft will be put through its paces, and finally a major contract will be awarded.... as for the planes themselves, i will leave the constructors to gve you their own spiel, but as a symbol of the allready confirmed deal for the bombers that Tylon Aerospace Industries and benarvia have stuck, they will have the ceremonial honour of being the first to lift off for the official test period..."
Hudson looks pleased when the aircraft kick into life even as these words leave his lips
"Today will be a day of fine tuning and tweaking....but tomorrow....tomorrow we begin in earnest.
I will leave you now with each of the respective sales reps, however, before they begin, please stand for the Benarvian National anthem.."
The band come to life.....and the music begins.

(OOC- space- i gave you the honour of first flight due to the fact you have allready taken off :p feel free to RP your spiel, or just to add a sentence before your planes take off- enjoy)
imported_Illior
13-07-2005, 19:50
" Yeah, of course they get the first flight, they have a contract," Mav said in a mocking voice, to Slam, who barely heard his words.
He knew that this was great, he would be able to watch the aircraft closely, hopefully in the control center, and see what it's weak spots were, and hopefully , he could use them.
OOC: Needed to post something, since it seemed like the thread was dying
Space Union
13-07-2005, 20:12
OOC: Benariva: I already completed the flight test. Remember I landed at the end of the RP. Okay maybe it wasn't the best land ending but it was a landing :rolleyes:

"Thank You everyone. I hope you like our F-316B during its maidan flight." The pilot got into the cockpit.

It was a summer morning at the base. The air was warm enough to enjoy yet not too hot to be miserable. The base was in full activity, at least the Space Union side. Today was the big day. Today the F-316B would lift-off for the first time into the air. Not only that, but it would be the first prototype to lift-off of the runway, of any of the other competitors. This naturally gave Tylon Aerospace Industries a slight advantage and cloat.

As the flight crew got into the aircraft for the first time, they were amazed. Both crew members, Pilot Yerman and Weapons Officer Uran, were seasoned F-316A crewmen but the F-316B was much more different. They knew it was more powerful. As the canopy began to slide down both felt empowered, as if they now were the aircraft. Finally the canopy closed and the aircraft began being taxied to the runway. Both pilots looked at the crowd waiting for them outside of the hanger. They could see the sense of amazement in the eyes of the onlookers. They were flying a beauty.

As they got near the runway, the taxy seperated from the aircraft and left the runway. As both crew members strapped in, Pilot Yerman yelled to his of Uran:

Yerman: You ready!

Uran: Push it!

Once said, it was done. Yerman pushed the throttle as the aircraft took to life. It started accelerating quickly and faster than the origional F-316. In a couple of seconds, they were ready to lift-off. As the runway quickly began coming to an end, Yerman lifted the nose of the aircraft up. Secretly he was hoping that it would fly. As the nose went up the aircraft pushed itself right into the air. It was a smooth take-off. As the aircraft began climbing higher and higher, both of the men looked at awe at the runway disappearing into the background. Yerman steadied the aircraft at 60,000 ft. Although it wasn't even near the maximum height, he wanted to play safe this time. Immediatly both officers checked the diagnoses of the aircraft. Everything was intact.

The F-316B cruised for a while as both officers got the hang of things. As they neared 15 minutes in the flight, Yerman started pushing the throttle again. He wanted to break the sound barrier on the first time. As the aircraft began accelerating quickly he could feel the aircraft hop past the sound barrier like it was made out of paper. Funny he thought, 50 years back people couldn't even imagine going past Mach 1. As the aircraft cruised past Mach 1 to Mach 1.2 and faster, Uran radioed into base:

Uran: We've just broken the sound barrier. We're accelerating as of now. We are aiming to go to at least Mach 2.

Flight Manager: Don't go past Mach 2.3. We want to make sure that everything is fine to the structure of the aircraft after the flight. This thing is pratically a different aircraft from the F-316A.

Uran: Yes, Sir!

As the plane accelerated faster and faster, Yerman began tipping the nose up again. He wanted to go fast and high to impress the onlookers. As the aircraft quickly reached 70,000 ft, he radioed into command:

Yerman: 70,000 ft now

Uran began looking at the diagnoses of the plane again. Nothing yet, so he told Yerman to push it. Yerman quickly pushed the throttle further as he pushed past Mach 1.8 and finally past Mach 2. As he did that, the plane achieved a altitude of 82,000 ft.

As the plane cruised, officers on the ground were impressed. Very faboulous one thought.

Up in the sky, the aircraft was slowing down as it started procedures for touch-down. As the aircraft got near the runway, Yerman tilted the nose up slightly to have a good landing. As the runway got only a few feet below the aircraft, Yerman maintained the nose. Finally the gears touched down on the runway. It had been a successful flight.

OOC: I just copy and pasted the previous flight here. Tomorrow, I'm going to do a little surprise for you guys. ;)
Benarvia
14-07-2005, 00:24
OOC- I was just trying to link it all in.... ;)
I was hoping each of you would come on stage and tell the audience why your aircraft is best etc :rolleyes:

IC- "Ladies and gentlemen, Now that the first official flight has taken place, we will allow each competitor time for tweaking and adjustments before we return tomorrow for the first stage of official competition."

Mere moments after Vice Air Marshall Levante finished his speech, a huge table raised up from a hatchway within the ground, covered in Benarvian delicacies

"Now let us eat and drink to the future winners, and i will open the microphone up to each companies representatives to answer any questions you might have"

The men in bulgy coats stood attentively.....watching the crowd.

:cool:
Space Union
14-07-2005, 00:33
OOC: My bad :P

IC:

CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon got up from his chair as he walked toward the stand. As he climbed the little steps to the podium, he watched the crowd of reporters swarm ahead of him, clicking cameras and using their high-tech video equipment.

When he reached the podium, he took a cleared his throat before speaking. "Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm happy to see that you have arrived here to witness the flight of our prototype YF-316B. I hope you were pleased by its performance as I am proud of it today. I do not care if it wins the competition, I will be proud of it still. Besides that point, I do think that our aircraft will win. So to help the audience understand the YF-316B, I'll be taking questions for you. You may be open about your questions. Thank You"

Raja Tylon became silent as he waited for the first question to address.
Mondoth
14-07-2005, 01:43
The Mondothian crew chief raised rose first.
"What exactly are the engines you use in this aircraft? I'm very interested in the thrust/weight ratios you have to achieve the performance we saw."
Space Union
14-07-2005, 02:20
Raja Tylon faced his questioner. Although the man was from the opposing team, Raja Tylon still answered very kindly, "it is 0.54:1, as of now but this is an estimate that we use and the real figure isn't released because of secrecy. Thank You for your question. Does anyone else have a question?"
Benarvia
14-07-2005, 05:48
A Senior Pilot instructor raised his voice and asked....

"with all this mobility technology adding new stresses to the airframe....what is the estimated lifespan of your aircraft"

OOC- *EDIT*Added a picture of Benarvia's current Fighter aircraft on my earlier post.
Kazakh Provinces
14-07-2005, 10:58
OOC:

Any chance I could send a fighter aircraft in? I need a bit of RP experience, and I have taken part in this sort of RP before.
Benarvia
14-07-2005, 16:38
I will allow a late entry to add some spice..... Just make sure it fills the requirement for a long range high altitude fighter to escort the B-300 Bomber (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9014629&postcount=1)

Just make your arrival snazzy and away we go :)
Kazakh Provinces
14-07-2005, 23:06
OOC:

I will tommorow.
Space Union
15-07-2005, 00:25
"The average lifespan is classified. But I'll tell you its in the neighborhood of 60 years. This is mostly done because of the use of the superalloy, Inconel."
Benarvia
15-07-2005, 05:41
A raven haired reporter speaks next...

"A famous Benarvian movie once said 'you can spend 50 million dollars on a plane, but u can't spend 6 bucks on a rear vision mirror?!?'..... *pockets of laughter* What features does this aircraft have to allow additional pilot visability and warn him of approaching threats?"

OOC- remember all these reporters are 'selected'- there are no scandal tabloids here ;)
Space Union
15-07-2005, 15:41
"The F-316B features the Blizzard All-Purpose Suite (BAPS). The BAPS has a built-in view of the entire aircraft. Various sensors on the skin of the aircraft, collect data, and presents it to the pilot in a 3D simulation. The 3D simulation shows the entire air battlefield in a 5 km radius, in a 3D interactive screen. This gives the pilot unmatched visability compared to older avionics that use cameras instead. This way the pilot can always no trajectories of missiles and aircrafts."
The Silver Sky
15-07-2005, 15:52
*TAG*

OOC: I already have a longrange fighter, but I obtained it on the condition of not selling it, and the guy I got it from doesn't go on I.I much anymore, but I'm just warning you that when you do the flight test there's gonna be a little surprise for you ;)

Oh, any one want to have a little simulated dogfight when this is over? :D
Space Union
15-07-2005, 15:58
*TAG*

OOC: I already have a longrange fighter, but I obtained it on the condition of not selling it, and the guy I got it from doesn't go on I.I much anymore, but I'm just warning you that when you do the flight test there's gonna be a little surprise for you ;)

Oh, any one want to have a little simulated dogfight when this is over? :D

OOC: Let me guess, you aircrafts is going to swoop down and kill out aircrafts :P I'm putting missiles on mine on the next flight test.

Yeah we are going to have a dogfight.

Benarvia: I'm not going to be able to RP from July 17th-August 13th because of vacation. So could someone else pick up my flight testing. I'll TG them the types of tests left to go. ;)
imported_Illior
15-07-2005, 15:58
Slammer Raised his hand,"Seeing as you have all these suites you talk about, how are they all presented? are they easy to understand and read? and are they all controlled by another suite?"
The Silver Sky
15-07-2005, 16:00
OOC: Let me guess, you aircrafts is going to swoop down and kill out aircrafts :P I'm putting missiles on mine on the next flight test.

Yeah we are going to have a dogfight.

Benarvia: I'm not going to be able to RP from July 17th-August 13th because of vacation. So could someone else pick up my flight testing. I'll TG them the types of tests left to go. ;)
OOC: No, I wouldn't do that
Ok, cool, mind if i join in?
Space Union
15-07-2005, 16:03
Slammer Raised his hand,"Seeing as you have all these suites you talk about, how are they all presented? are they easy to understand and read? and are they all controlled by another suite?"

"Unlike previous avionics that have all these different monitors, this suite presents it on the HUD. All the systems report to a subsystem which compiles the data for their sector. They then report their information to the main CPU, which compiles all the information into the 3D view, showing the entire battlefield. This is true integrated avionics. This allows the pilot to understand everything going on around and inside the aircraft"
Kazakh Provinces
15-07-2005, 23:05
The Su-37MFA is an Advanced, Multirole Fighter with enormous combat capabilities. With a huge range of 4,000km, a service ceiling of 62,200 ft and a maximum speed of Mach 2.6, its combat abilities are endless. However, it's main feature is it's ability to dissappear from select radar types, invisibility to the naked eye and high weapons load.

We would be happy to take question on the aircraft, before our first profile flight.

Around an Hour Earlier

The Su-37MFA roared over the main exhibition hangars, above a small crowd and anyone else that may have been watching. Now, the flight in had been long and boring, with three refueling stops on the way. However, the last bit would be more fun.

Except it wouldn't involve aerobatics or combat abilities. No. As the aircraft flew over the hangars, it activated Athena (its radar disguising system), its Smart Skin (invisible to the naked eye) and cooling system on the engines. In one fell swoop, the aircraft was literally invisible to all.

The Su-37 lande don the main runway, and as it taxied in, turned off smart skin. The pilots hoped this would satisfy enough.
Mondoth
16-07-2005, 00:40
OOC: how do you get complete invisibilty, I use computer controlled LCD screens but even that leaves a shadow in some conditions and creates a 'bubble' effect that someone who knows what they're looking for could spot (kind of like the 'active camoflauge' from halo 1&2), I'm also interested in Radar invisibilty as something you can turn on and off, it just doesn't seem practical or possible modern tech to me (or recent PMT) Just wondering purely ooc how you accomplish it.
Benarvia
16-07-2005, 12:13
OOC- Anyone who will seriously offer an aircraft is welcome to join.

Subs are fine, as long as it is clear who they represent.

Benarvia's airbase is being covered by a constant CAP remember, and is also equipped with all the mod cons when it comes to Surface to Air weaponry :sniper:

It would also be detrimental to business to eliminate your opposition....making them look foolish is good enough ;)

once we have identified all the aircraft, i'm hoping we will get some behind the scenes "i'm not so sure we'll win" or " they have no clue what we have" kinda chat :)

Remember, these people know big money is at stake..... :cool:
imported_Illior
16-07-2005, 16:42
OOC: KP, Athena was a system devolped by New Empire quite a while ago, with the Latest edition being Pallas Athena, by the way is modern tech(Something Like it is being used on B-52s these days called a False Target Generator), just made larger and more effective. I'm not sure whether you made your own Idea that was the same and named it Athena, but it does seem like an odd coincedence to me.
Kazakh Provinces
17-07-2005, 12:20
OOC:

All these invisibility problems still persist, and yes they are small LCD screens, but from a good distance the aircraft looks near invisible.

Athena is from a book, and New Empires idea is from that book, I believe. I can't remember it offhand, but in the book it is called Athena aswell, and works by the same principle.
Benarvia
18-07-2005, 02:15
BUMP

OOC- do we want to continue the media circus, or shall i create a decoy that ends the questions?????

I'm keen to hear more from the aircraft and less from me.... since you are trying to sell these to me after all ;)

However feel free to OOC direct me toward anything you feel would highlight your bids chances :)
Mondoth
18-07-2005, 02:45
lets get on with the flying.

OOC: the greatest advantage my aircraft (espescially the SX-24) have is the odd airframe, when my people are on stand a question about the strange lookingness is probably warranted
Benarvia
18-07-2005, 02:55
OOC- I will prepare a summary of current events on the first post.... just to keep track amongst all this technical talk.... i'll try and do it tonight.