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OOC: I whole heartedly agree with Fris about an ever growing trend in II. When some random n00b comes into II and posts a 'I D3CL4R3 W4R ON T3H WURLD!!111' or 'D3STORY T3H UN!!11' thread, it is immediatly swamped by 'anti-n00bs' who proceed to feed the troll and keep the thread active.

People, please. When you see such a thread, LEAVE IT ALONE. There really is no reason to post anything in it, just let it quietly slip to the bottom of the forum and die a lonely death.

3 pages of 'kill the n00b!' or 'stupid nub! I declare war on j00!' is just plain stupid, and you only make yourself look like a noob in the process. Do us all a favor and leave the thread alone. There are much more deserving threads that are getting sent to the bottom of the forum because some random n00b decides to declare war on Max Barry.

Sheesh.....agree with me if you will, but it will mean nothing unless we ALL leave these kinds of threads alone.

EDIT: And no, I'm not a moderator. Just an avid II roleplayer that is fed up and has seen more than enough of this.

I second that

I definitely agree.

I haven't seen any n00b "declare war on the world!!!" threads lately. Then again, I have been only focusing in Earth V, Earth TLE, and the latest RP project in Alternate Earth 1900 - 2000.

I do agree that these n00b threads should be left alone to wither and die.

I haven't seen any n00b "declare war on the world!!!" threads lately.

I see them on a disturbingly regular basis. And instead of just being left to die, they end up dragging on for 5 or 6 pages.

I haven't seen any n00b "declare war on the world!!!" threads lately. Then again, I have been only focusing in Earth V, Earth TLE, and the latest RP project in Alternate Earth 1900 - 2000.

I do agree that these n00b threads should be left alone to wither and die.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430506
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430561

2 from today alone.

I haven't seen any n00b "declare war on the world!!!" threads lately. Then again, I have been only focusing in Earth V, Earth TLE, and the latest RP project in Alternate Earth 1900 - 2000.

I do agree that these n00b threads should be left alone to wither and die.

Well, I don't think n00Bs frequent the earths, just my opinion, but I believe they would be ignored in short order.

I attmept to help them but they don't listen. I give up on em.

I whole-heartedly concur, when people play "swamp the n00b", I usually try and leap in and defend the poor newcomer.

It's about time someone post a thread like this, though.

I whole-heartedly concur, when people play "swamp the n00b", I usually try and leap in and defend the poor newcomer.

It's about time someone post a thread like this, though.


Sticky it I say!!!

I disagree with AMF to an extent. I'm not suggesting people go into these threads and begin an anti-n00b campaign I agree with him that these are needless, worthless, and unfair on threads which actually have a lot of work gone into them.

But I do think that a single person should attempt to give the newbie a rundown of the guidelines, and how to RP properly. If the n00b is incapable of listening to reason, then certainly ignore the thread from then on. If the newb is actually willing to learn, then a decent RPer could be salvaged. You have nothing to lose from making a single attempt, but we could gain a lot. Everybody has to start somewhere, remember. But a flood of people pointing out the same stickies is just as unnecessary as a bunch of people flaming the newbie -- one is enough.



http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430506
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430561

2 from today alone.

The second is the act of a newb, not a n00b.

I disagree with AMF to an extent. I'm not suggesting people go into these threads and begin an anti-n00b campaign I agree with him that these are needless, worthless, and unfair on threads which actually have a lot of work gone into them.

But I do think that a single person should attempt to give the newbie a rundown of the guidelines, and how to RP properly. If the n00b is incapable of listening to reason, then certainly ignore the thread from then on. If the newb is actually willing to learn, then a decent RPer could be salvaged. You have nothing to lose from making a single attempt, but we could gain a lot. Everybody has to start somewhere, remember. But a flood of people pointing out the same stickies is just as unnecessary as a bunch of people flaming the newbie -- one is enough.





The second is the act of a newb, not a n00b.

So well written, but poorly thought out is newbish, while poorly written and poorly thought out is n00bish?(this is a serious question, please answer)

i think leaving n00b threads alone is a great idea, the best way is to ignore them. the threads that get the most attention are the ones that declare war on a specific country, as countless allies and allies of allies jump in for a bit of good-old bloodshed.

following the slippery slope of logic, maybe each player should have a rating from 0 to 1000 that is influenced by either others (click a + or -) or by a selected team of quality RPers who are dedicated to keeping crap off the forums. This may be hugely impractical, but a line (say about 10/1000) could be drawn where others are automatically advised to ignore the thread. Maybe if they stay at 0 (or close) for a determined period of time they are deleated. Of course, people will overrate their allies and puppets and throw hate at their enemies. It could be improved upon, but as it stands it would leave the team no time to get their own RPs.

I disagree with AMF to an extent. I'm not suggesting people go into these threads and begin an anti-n00b campaign I agree with him that these are needless, worthless, and unfair on threads which actually have a lot of work gone into them.

But I do think that a single person should attempt to give the newbie a rundown of the guidelines, and how to RP properly. If the n00b is incapable of listening to reason, then certainly ignore the thread from then on. If the newb is actually willing to learn, then a decent RPer could be salvaged. You have nothing to lose from making a single attempt, but we could gain a lot. Everybody has to start somewhere, remember. But a flood of people pointing out the same stickies is just as unnecessary as a bunch of people flaming the newbie -- one is enough.


And I disagree with you to an extent.

I have been on NS since March 2003. In my experience, when a n00b comes onto the forums and posts a thread (usually they only make 1 or 2 posts, then forever disappear), they usually have no intention of actually reading the stickies and learning how to roleplay properly. They're just here to post garbage and get a response.

People like this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430506

are more than likely to care less about RP etiquette, so preaching to them about the rules is futile. However, people such as this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430561

Are probably willing to learn the ropes, and therefore should be given help.

But seriously now, when you see a person who just signed up for NS (and has zero posts) make a thread like:

:mad: I DELCARE WAR ON TEH UN BECUZ ITZ FOR ****** (blah blah blah) :sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :upyours:

I VERY much doubt you will ever get through to them. The latter are the kinds of threads that should never be replied to.

So well written, but poorly thought out is newbish, while poorly written and poorly thought out is n00bish?(this is a serious question, please answer)

A newb would be willing to learn and acknowledge mistakes and learn from others, whether well written or not. Basically, they respond to logic. As such there could be potential in them. As I said, everyone has to start somewhere, and stupid mistakes or errors of judgement are often prerequisites of a 'first attempt' at anything. These are the guys that need a little guidance sometimes.

A n00b would simply repeat the same basic 'i iz l00king 4 attention, rawr!' rhetoric until driving people insane. You could tell them they've made a mistake over and over until you go blue in the face, and they would either ignore you or insult you. These are the guys you can leave alone. But to find out if they are unwilling to learn, you have to try and teach them first.

Neither group would respond well to offensive put-downs or being patronised, so there's no point in doing so.

The second thread listed above is an example of the former, not because it's well-written, but because the author responds to logic.

As a side-note, I completely detest all these internet slang terms.

As a side-note, I completely detest all these internet slang terms.

um does that include txt slang?

A newb is someone who shows interest in learning the game and actually makes an effort toward that end. A n00b is someone who shows no interest in learning the game and continues to play whatever is in his mind. The second thread linked teeters on the fence between newb and n00b.

I agree with AMF. In a lot of cases, n00bs do that to get attention. A newb often doesn't get attention unless he does something outrageous (ala Feline Catfish). It's very rare that a genuine newb (not to be confused with veteran players who are starting over with new countries) gets attention for something positive. It's one of the worst things about NS in my book.

If you see one of these I n00k j00!!!!1111 threads, just don't post in them. You can tell the difference between a newb who makes a mistake stemming from inexperience with NS and a n00b. Usually, you can also tell when a newb has the potential to be a great RPer down the line.

Hmm. I support the "Give a n00b 1 chance" idea. However, there are probably some n00bs that would need quite some time to improve. Take Hataria for example.

Hataria was crazy last year, but now his RP has improved somewhat, and much less god-modding. No more "Discover aircraft carriers and battleships inside caves" like during the Hatarian Mammalian war that I was part of.

And I disagree with you to an extent.

I have been on NS since March 2003. In my experience, when a n00b comes onto the forums and posts a thread (usually they only make 1 or 2 posts, then forever disappear), they usually have no intention of actually reading the stickies and learning how to roleplay properly. They're just here to post garbage and get a response.

People like this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430506

are more than likely to care less about RP etiquette, so preaching to them about the rules is futile. However, people such as this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430561

Are probably willing to learn the ropes, and therefore should be given help.

But seriously now, when you see a person who just signed up for NS (and has zero posts) make a thread like:

:mad: I DELCARE WAR ON TEH UN BECUZ ITZ FOR ****** (blah blah blah) :sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :upyours:

I VERY much doubt you will ever get through to them. The latter are the kinds of threads that should never be replied to.

I agree, there is little hope for them, but there's no harm in trying once and then leaving them to it. I would much rather have that one constructive post from someone looking to help them out than a series of posts which amount to little more than a witch hunt. It takes a minute at most to point them in the right direction, and then you can leave them to decide if they want to go in that direction.

A newb would be willing to learn and acknowledge mistakes and learn from others, whether well written or not. Basically, they respond to logic. As such there could be potential in them. As I said, everyone has to start somewhere, and stupid mistakes or errors of judgement are often prerequisites of a 'first attempt' at anything. These are the guys that need a little guidance sometimes.

A n00b would simply repeat the same basic 'i iz l00king 4 attention, rawr!' rhetoric until driving people insane. You could tell them they've made a mistake over and over until you go blue in the face, and they would either ignore you or insult you. These are the guys you can leave alone. But to find out if they are unwilling to learn, you have to try and teach them first.

Neither group would respond well to offensive put-downs or being patronised, so there's no point in doing so.

The second thread listed above is an example of the former, not because it's well-written, but because the author responds to logic.

As a side-note, I completely detest all these internet slang terms.


You are entirely missing the point of this thread.

This has nothing to do with newbies who are trying to get into RPing. This has everything to do with n00bs who come onto the forum and make a thread with almost nothing but smilies and maybe 2 or 3 words.

It goes without saying that if a newbie is trying to RP that they should be given a chance, but that is not the topic of discussion here.

It's much simpler to just ignore the threads and leave it up to the "n00bs" to learn the way of things here. It's not really that posting in these thread will make the poster look bad, it's that posting in such a thread is simply pointless, and serves no purpose. In the end, just don't give them attention in any form - including a thread that talks about the exact same thing.

I have NEVER seen a n00b who posts the kind of OMFG! I DECLARE WAR ON J00!!!!!111 I WINZ LOLOLRZ...." crap turn into a valued member of the NS community. I've seen plenty of newbs who start out making mistakes but turn out to be great RPers who are willing to learn from them.

I have NEVER seen a n00b who posts the kind of OMFG! I DECLARE WAR ON J00!!!!!111 I WINZ LOLOLRZ...." crap turn into a valued member of the NS community. I've seen plenty of newbs who start out making mistakes but turn out to be great RPers who are willing to learn from them.

What about Seph?

He's our NS Court Jester after all. :p

In the end, just don't give them attention in any form - including a thread that talks about the exact same thing.

Omz, this is an ongoing problem. Problems do not fix themselves on their own, they need to be addressed, discussed, and a solution needs to be presented. I hope Fris goes through with this and gets the senior mod staff to make a decision on baiting n00b spammers.

However, nothing would have ever been done about this if no one spoke up. Play Devil's Advocate all you want and say that threads like this give the n00bs more attention, but in my experience until someone finally speaks up (which I'm more than happy to do) the problem only gets worse.

You are entirely missing the point of this thread.

This has nothing to do with newbies who are trying to get into RPing. This has everything to do with n00bs who come onto the forum and make a thread with almost nothing but smilies and maybe 2 or 3 words.

It goes without saying that if a newbie is trying to RP that they should be given a chance, but that is not the topic of discussion here.

I know, I was responding to Mini-Miehm.

I agree with you that these n00b threads should not be targeted by a morass of anti-n00bs; they should be left to drop into oblivion. I'm just saying that it hurts nobody whatsoever to quickly point out the error of their ways in a single post, and then leave them to it. I've been here for a little over a year and I've never seen such a n00b 'reform' either, but there's no harm in trying if the thread sitting at the top of the page anyway.

I agree completely Automagfreek.

I am not going to lie, in the past I have been guilty of jumping on a n00b's back, and thus becoming part of the problem instead of part of the solution, but so have probably anywhere from 80-90% of role players with at least a year of role playing under their belts. Based on the reasons I have done it and why I suspect others do it as well, I believe that most of these people want attention just as much as the n00b does, but instead of directly coming out and looking like a n00b themselves, try to mask it by attempting to sound intelligent. And, just like every other problem International Incidents has been plagued with throughout the years I have been here, can only be corrected when one side (in most cases the n00bs) stops doing whatever it is they are doing. Plus, I know for a fact that some of the established nations of International Incidents make a puppet nation with the sole purpose of trying to get the role playing community pissed off, so unless an extremely well learned group of new role players comes to International Incidents and no one makes puppets to act like n00bs, the problem being discussed in this topic will only end if the "swampers" ignore the n00bs and puppets.

However, there will always be those who would try to gain recognition by putting others down, and those who believe that their intelligence is so much greater than others that they believe it is their mission to correct whatever they see as wrong. So in reality, this problem will never fully disappear.

That is my view on this problem, and I hope everyone can understand it without getting lost, because it may be a little jumpy and all over the place.

I ignore such threads as those nations don't exist.
Once in awhile, some new nation, like Graeltonia, declares war on the world. Graeltonia doesn't exist in any of the earths or universes in which my nation exists so his declaration does not affect my nation. Hence no need to post in such threads.

People, please. When you see such a thread, LEAVE IT ALONE. There really is no reason to post anything in it, just let it quietly slip to the bottom of the forum and die a lonely death.

And, please, no giant pictures of mushroom clouds or poorly Doga'd cannons as you ignore them.

I postedin a n00b spam thread! :O I feel terrible now. Though I did it in the second one because he threatened my nation (socialist with communist elements). You are always worried that it could turn into a dogpile and squish you.

<<applause for AMF>>

That was something that's needed to be said for awhile now, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. You probably remember the thread that The Silver Sky started on this same topic (which was actually a good one until it degenerated into useless spamming). Well, not too long after that, there was a n00b by the name of Culpeper Virginia who came on and did a "OMG LOLZ I DECLARE WAR ON TEH WORLD!!!!!!111one1eleven" thread. Well, some of the very same people who said they supported TSS' idea on not responding to such threads went in and baited him. I posted something along the lines of, "Guys, please stop baiting the n00b. We just had a thread on how we're supposed to be ignoring them." The reply I received, IIRC, was something like, "But it's so much fun!" To be fair, though, I believe Haitenstan posted some n00bish threads recently, and they were completely ignored, so props to those who resisted the urge to post. In short, thank you, AMF: this was something that needed to be said, and something we can all do to make II a better place.

And, please, no giant pictures of mushroom clouds or poorly Doga'd cannons as you ignore them.

Yes, for the love of God...none of those......

Yes, I admit it, I was part of the noob crackdown. Personally I got a little militant over the newbs but now will watch who I start annexing or strong arming.

now will watch who I start annexing or strong arming.People still annex? Oy...

People still annex? Oy...

How is this even possible on NS, annex would mean taking over by force and using it. This isn't possible if the person decides to ignore or do nothing about it.

If actual NS had annexation many 'noob' nations that pop up would be crushed and controlled by another nation extremely fast. One could create these 'puppet' nations and RP them differently to trick and control other nations. Though it would have to go beyond text based for such things.

following the slippery slope of logic, maybe each player should have a rating from 0 to 1000 that is influenced by either others (click a + or -) or by a selected team of quality RPers who are dedicated to keeping crap off the forums. This may be hugely impractical, but a line (say about 10/1000) could be drawn where others are automatically advised to ignore the thread.

That sounds like slashdot's post-ranking scheme.

And I have no comment on the original post. I'm not a regular and I won't pretend to be one. I have no valid frame of reference to judge n00b behavior.

How is this even possible on NS, annex would mean taking over by force and using it. This isn't possible if the person decides to ignore or do nothing about it.

If actual NS had annexation many 'noob' nations that pop up would be crushed and controlled by another nation extremely fast. One could create these 'puppet' nations and RP them differently to trick and control other nations. Though it would have to go beyond text based for such things.
I've annexed a land from a couple of nations. But I always end up giving back their nation after I've done rebuilt it.

Personally I've been too busy with rping in I.I. to bother to notice threads other than by those that FT or have some handle on the english language, as well as some drive to go on.

In the end, a noob isn't worth it. And such threads end up taking server space. The bandwidth dealing with this place is already slow enough as it is, without such idiotic threads.

There is only one place for a noob. Prove their worth effectively, or don't even bother. There's probably a noob chatty site for such things out there already. Go there, not here.

I have NEVER seen a n00b who posts the kind of OMFG! I DECLARE WAR ON J00!!!!!111 I WINZ LOLOLRZ...." crap turn into a valued member of the NS community. I've seen plenty of newbs who start out making mistakes but turn out to be great RPers who are willing to learn from them.

This is because the vast majority of 'noob' spam-threads are actually from puppets of established players and not genuine newbies at all.

I generaly see those threads as a good sign, it means that newbies are coming to NS. True, most of them do it to make 'I declare war!' threads, but they are just symptom of improvment.
No pain, no gain.

Anyway, to the point, it IS occasionaly fun to play the n00b along. I dont do it often, but I had a good deal of fun with those idiots who ran Caucasian Guam.

This is because the vast majority of 'noob' spam-threads are actually from puppets of established players and not genuine newbies at all.

Wow. Then perhaps some sort of punishment should be established for players who are supposed to know the rules yet create the 'noob spam' garbage anyways.

Wow. Then perhaps some sort of punishment should be established for players who are supposed to know the rules yet create the 'noob spam' garbage anyways.
You didnt know this?
Im suprised.
I knew it for some time, but wasnt sure. It was confirmed for me when Jordaxia (I think) accidentaly posted as his own account instead of the 'n00b' one.
I imagine that thread is gone now though.

Of course I knew this, but established players is quite disturbing. If you're someone that has been here for awhile, I would think that you would be a little more respectful to the community and mind the rules. Guess I was wrong....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430674

This is what I'm talking about people. Is this really necessary?

Agreed AMF

hey i'm the one trying to teach the poor sod, he seems like he could be a great RPer with instruction.

It isn't necessary, but you carry on after you make a joke. *sigh* :(

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430674

This is what I'm talking about people. Is this really necessary?
Well...at least he has proper spelling and grammar. That's something.

Well...at least he has proper spelling and grammar. That's something.

I'm not talking so much about the first post, but the series of spam posts made by other users. Is it really necessary to bait the author?

He seems to have some trolling issues anyways, which have been reported. His continued insults against RL Americans have no place in a roleplay forum.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430674

This is what I'm talking about people. Is this really necessary?

It's educational.

A gedankenexperiment, if you will.

It's educational.

A gedankenexperiment, if you will.


I don't see any educational value in that thread that contributes to the roleplay community. And I don't see how it can be a thought experiment either.

Nothing eduactional that contrabutes to the Roleplay community and a lot of rearther stupid comments 'Where are the americans? they're stupid but they love a good war', yeah, real educational.

And I don't see how it can be a thought experiment either.

You wouldn't. It's probably the lack of intelligence.

And, please, no giant pictures of mushroom clouds or poorly Doga'd cannons as you ignore them.

Yeah...good thing a few mods weren't the ones who came up with the doga ca...oh...

oh wait...

You wouldn't. It's probably the lack of intelligence.

*shakes hand*

Congradulations on your kindergarten-esqe flame! You just made a five-year-old giggle.

You wouldn't. It's probably the lack of intelligence.
From what i am seeing from you, your exiptiting low intellagence as well.

You wouldn't. It's probably the lack of intelligence.

I'm an extremely intelligent individual, so please don't resort to schoolyard name calling. You're not impressing anyone by trolling.

yeah, real educational.

Looks like you need some education. 'real educational' is a grammatical abomination

OOC: I whole heartedly agree with Fris about an ever growing trend in II. When some random n00b comes into II and posts a 'I D3CL4R3 W4R ON T3H WURLD!!111' or 'D3STORY T3H UN!!11' thread, it is immediatly swamped by 'anti-n00bs' who proceed to feed the troll and keep the thread active.

People, please. When you see such a thread, LEAVE IT ALONE. There really is no reason to post anything in it, just let it quietly slip to the bottom of the forum and die a lonely death.

3 pages of 'kill the n00b!' or 'stupid nub! I declare war on j00!' is just plain stupid, and you only make yourself look like a noob in the process. Do us all a favor and leave the thread alone. There are much more deserving threads that are getting sent to the bottom of the forum because some random n00b decides to declare war on Max Barry.

Sheesh.....agree with me if you will, but it will mean nothing unless we ALL leave these kinds of threads alone.

EDIT: And no, I'm not a moderator. Just an avid II roleplayer that is fed up and has seen more than enough of this.

Guys, seriously...

Don't post anymore to this thread. When you see a thread such as this, LEAVE IT ALONE. There really is no reason to post anything in it, just let it quietly slip to the bottom of the forum and die a lonely death.

;)

I'm an extremely intelligent individual, so please don't resort to schoolyard name calling. You're not impressing anyone by trolling.


Schoolyard? After coming out with "I'm an extremely intelligent individual"?

Pot.
Kettle.
Black.

Looks like you need some education. 'real educational' is a grammatical abomination


You DO realize that you are insulting a dyslexic person? Yeah, you're a real big internet thug.....

Now, kindly remove yourself from this discussion. Your 'comments' aren't welcome here.

Schoolyard? After coming out with "I'm an extremely intelligent individual"?

Pot.
Kettle.
Black.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=schoolyard

I don't see what you hope to accomplish by being a troll. Consider this my last response to you before the mods take over. G'day.

Looks like you need some education. 'real educational' is a grammatical abomination
You may have noticed people have these things called accents. As a reporter from The Craven Herald i think I know abouts whats acceptable to most people. And Pot. Kettle. Black. Are also gramatical abborations.

You wouldn't. It's probably the lack of intelligence.
Hahahahaha. Loser boy thinks he's clever. Bless.

And Pot. Kettle. Black. Are also gramatical abborations.

1) Irony

2) The word is 'aberration'. That's not dyslexia...that's just stupidity.

:) I'd be pritty sure I have a slightly higher IQ thatn you, I'm several points over average, and am predicted 3 A* 5 A and the rest B's at GCSE's.

Yep, I'm a idiot

:) I'd be pritty sure I have a slightly higher IQ thatn you, I'm several points over average, and am predicted 3 A* 5 A and the rest B's at GCSE's.

Yep, I'm a idiot

Predicted?

It was predicted we'd be able to live on the moon now...I don't see that happening any time soon.
I hope one of your GCSEs isn't in Spelling.

Yeah, english language is one of the B's, I hope to get a A for English lit. Yes there predicted but I can't do much better than that can i, I get A's on my coursework and ican't do any more.

Aust, don't bait him. This is in the hands of the moderators now.

Yeah, english language is one of the B's, I hope to get a A for English lit. Yes there predicted but I can't do much better than that can i, I get A's on my coursework and ican't do any more.


Good luck with those GCSEs

Aust, don't bait him. This is in the hands of the moderators now.
Thanks. I'll stop it's just i get annoyed by these things.

Ahhh, isn't that nice. He's actually being friendly. Group hug, group hug. Seriously though, this guy should be kicked off the website. If I came on saying that all Muslims wanted to kill everybody (which is an unfair generalization) then I'd be kicked off in a second. Racism is against races, the Americans are a race, therefore this guy is racist. I used race a lot there but there you go!

Guys this is turning into a flame war and it's getting you no where... at best it's probably best to just ignore Islamic Daingean as it's clear he can't reply to a post without flaming the other players directly.

As others have stated, the best thing to do with such "n00b spam threads" is to ignore them outright and not to start flaming them or pointing out how "n00bish" they are as it just ends in a pointless arguement... It is possible to attempt constuctive criticism without it turning into a flamefest, however you need to be respectful while doing so otherwise you are likely to get a hostile responce. Personally however I stopped doing a while back as it can be taken the wrong way and only a few people listen.

VM...getting quite emotional there. Take a Xanax.

If you look at the instructions for this thread, it suggests role-playing.

Now, get those brain-wheels turning and work it out....

:D They shut down the last thread because of too much arguing!!! Hahahahahaha. Good fun.

:D They shut down the last thread because of too much arguing!!! Hahahahahaha. Good fun.
No, I shut down the last thread because of too much rulebreaking. If you want your nation deleted, by all means keep up the off-topic spam and flaming.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator
Forum and Game Rules (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023)

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh
I'll take that as a "please delete me and all my puppets", Islamic Daingean.

I'll take that as a "please delete me and all my puppets", Islamic Daingean.

I see you made sure to take your megalomania pills today anyway

Fuck off. Now.

I see you made sure to take your megalomania pills today anyway

Insulting mods = not a good idea.

I shall laugh very long and hard at your misfortune when you meet your demise at their hands, Islamic Daingean.

Fuck off. Now.
Aust, that was totally unnecessary. Not only had the nation in question been deleted 3 hours earlier, but you effectively bumped the thread just to flame.

You know better than that. Don't let me see that again.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator
Forum and Game Rules (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023)

My apologies MR Mod, I've taken a lot from this guy and he's getting under my skin.

that is unacceptable and sorry doesn't cut it, i want an apology from you too because I am offended by the F-word. Apologize. C'mon, do it. Say sorry to meeeeeeeeeee

Oh, shaddup.

that is unacceptable and sorry doesn't cut it, i want an apology from you too because I am offended by the F-word. Apologize. C'mon, do it. Say sorry to meeeeeeeeeee


*COUGHhere (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430761) COUGH*

OOC:

"Can't we all just get along?" -- Name the quoter.

OOC:

"Can't we all just get along?" -- Name the quoter.

Some hippy?

Look, we don't all want to "just get along", so why try if they're gonna make trouble.

*COUGHhere (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430761) COUGH*

you got a lot of nerve postin that

consider yourself reported..

Have a nice day!

you got a lot of nerve postin that

consider yourself reported..

Have a nice day!

I plan to.

I plan to.

well, good, i hope you enjoy it a lot. :sniper: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AHijsdhlaskjgtihkoadjhiodfjhgdkljhwadksjghldksjdhklfhgdklzsjghadklgkladjghlanbngtm,naethrligudhfbvio udbvkdgs,.dhgdlasgjink,hgsldikasjldghskldjfhgdkjhlgsdjhusdhgiuaerhtuorwehlrtyiuleyghjkdengmkdnvm,zcn xvbsdfhgbadgiregergdfgdfhfshfgjsgfhjfsjfhjsfhjjgfgjfjfgjfgjfjfjfj :fluffle:

*Watches another DEAT*

I plan to.
*Gives Mini Miehm a high-five* Where in all of hell are all these n00bs coming from, although some are intelligent, I can't help but think this is all being co-ordinated...

well, good, i hope you enjoy it a lot. :sniper: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AHijsdhlaskjgtihkoadjhiodfjhgdkljhwadksjghldksjdhklfhgdklzsjghadklgkladjghlanbngtm,naethrligudhfbvio udbvkdgs,.dhgdlasgjink,hgsldikasjldghskldjfhgdkjhlgsdjhusdhgiuaerhtuorwehlrtyiuleyghjkdengmkdnvm,zcn xvbsdfhgbadgiregergdfgdfhfshfgjsgfhjfsjfhjsfhjjgfgjfjfgjfgjfjfjfj :fluffle:

Now where'd I put that ignore cannon???

*Gives Mini Miehm a high-five* Where in all of hell are all these n00bs coming from, although some are intelligent, I can't help but think this is all being co-ordinated...

*accepts high-five* I think they're just appearing because it's summer, and the best way to deal with them is the same as in real life, total lack of emotion, don't let them piss you off, then you're playing their game and they win, if you don't get emotional they get confused and wander off.

*accepts high-five* I think they're just appearing because it's summer, and the best way to deal with them is the same as in real life, total lack of emotion, don't let them piss you off, then you're playing their game and they win, if you don't get emotional they get confused and wander off.
This is true, which is why I try to stay away from RPs on the NS forum, I prefer W@W to this, at least we don't have any annoying newbs.

This is true, which is why I try to stay away from RPs on the NS forum, I prefer W@W to this, at least we don't have any annoying newbs.

I like II more, it has more people to play with, even with the occasional n00b showing up the good outweighs the less good.

i want to role-play, but i feel like you guys are ganging up on me and it makes me sad inside. I just want to get a long. People at school always make fun of me, and I thought here, i could get along with people :(

i want to role-play, but i feel like you guys are ganging up on me and it makes me sad inside. I just want to get a long. People at school always make fun of me, and I thought here, i could get along with people :(
if you do, read the stickys okay.

if you do, read the stickys okay.

Aust is right, read and think, you have a tiny nation, think like a tiny nation, if you think like that you might actually be a pretty good RPer with some experience.

i want to role-play, but i feel like you guys are ganging up on me and it makes me sad inside. I just want to get a long. People at school always make fun of me, and I thought here, i could get along with people :(

Then I highly suggest you read the International Incidents Consolidation Sticky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414035) and learn how to properly RP. If you do, are respectful to others, and show that you are willing to learn from your mistakes and become a better player, you will get a lot more respect. And people will be happy to get along and RP with you.

i want to role-play, but i feel like you guys are ganging up on me and it makes me sad inside. I just want to get a long. People at school always make fun of me, and I thought here, i could get along with people :(
Hmm, yeah, sure[/sarcasm]
Give us an example of how we ganged up on you, we did exactly what we are supposed to, direct you to the stickies. But no, you had to go and declare war on the world, threaten to throw me out a window (roflmfao) and a host of other stuff, you pretty much lost all respect from me, and I forgive pretty easily too...

Hmm, yeah, sure[/sarcasm]
Give us an example of how we ganged up on you, we did exactly what we are supposed to, direct you to the stickies. But no, you had to go and declare war on the world, threaten to throw me out a window (roflmfao) and a host of other stuff, you pretty much lost all respect from me, and I forgive pretty easily too...

Sky, you're not helping here, be good, preferably in a very quiet manner, you're experienced, so don't let him get under your skin, he's new, let him be.

Hmm, yeah, sure[/sarcasm]
Give us an example of how we ganged up on you, we did exactly what we are supposed to, direct you to the stickies. But no, you had to go and declare war on the world, threaten to throw me out a window (roflmfao) and a host of other stuff, you pretty much lost all respect from me, and I forgive pretty easily too...

thats pretty harsh, maybe we could mediate an agreement to allow a friendship between us. We need to be like brothers, ok?

Sky, you're not helping here, be good, preferably in a very quiet manner, you're experienced, so don't let him get under your skin, he's new, let him be.

thanks, i knew you and I were pals. :fluffle:

thats pretty harsh, maybe we could mediate an agreement to allow a friendship between us. We need to be like brothers, ok?

You stop too, you're just antagonising him, even if you don't realise it.

You stop too, you're just antagonising him, even if you don't realise it.


Well said. We all just need to calm down a bit here. Lets not rib on the noobs because they dont have a hang of it yet, and noobs, please, try not to do anything that will get other, more experienced players angry with you.

Well said. We all just need to calm down a bit here. Lets not rib on the noobs because they dont have a hang of it yet, and noobs, please, try not to do anything that will get other, more experienced players angry with you.

At least someone agrees with me...

Buthe's right, everyone just relax, go get very drunk, and we'll have this out when you get back and are a bit more relaxed.

Saddly I can't get drunk, but I could take a newb under my wing for a bit, I actually think we all should, maybe that would help?

Saddly I can't get drunk, but I could take a newb under my wing for a bit, I actually think we all should, maybe that would help?

In that case I'm going to show my truly evil side now, you get Bushido Kamigawa to mentor then.

In that case I'm going to show my truly evil side now, you get Bushido Kamigawa to mentor then.
I hate you, j/k

I'll try after he gets back from his one week forumban.

I hate you, j/k

I'll try after he gets back from his one week forumban.

Good, if you treat him better it might get through to him, he probably sees you as some sort of attacker, and if you change it may be all he needs to be good at RPing, so try, I'm being my generally helpful self and shepherding anyone who asks for the help.

hey, we noobs do not like to be trashed on. i resent even being called a noob. you're all going to make me start crying. cant we just all get along?

Good, if you treat him better it might get through to him, he probably sees you as some sort of attacker, and if you change it may be all he needs to be good at RPing, so try, I'm being my generally helpful self and shepherding anyone who asks for the help.

can you shepherd me MINI? im a noob, help me :(

hey, we noobs do not like to be trashed on. i resent even being called a noob. you're all going to make me start crying. cant we just all get along?

Ok, here's my first advice, n00b and newb are very different things, until someone calls you a n00b don't assume you are one.

Ok, here's my first advice, n00b and newb are very different things, until someone calls you a n00b don't assume you are one.

thats it? thats all the advice you have.............

oh, thank you. just a misunderstanding then...not that i appreciate it at all

can you shepherd me MINI? im a noob, help me :(

I'm very sorry to say this, but you may want to change your name right off, I'm sorry to tell you this but the Mods take a dim view of anyone who seems to be trying to influence others through their name, if you name yourself after a mod, or name yourself so that others think that the mods might favor you, then the mods will generally delete you, I think that the fact that you asked for help is a good sign, just make a new nation and pick a name that won't anger the mods, even if it's not intentional, ok?

Good, if you treat him better it might get through to him, he probably sees you as some sort of attacker, and if you change it may be all he needs to be good at RPing, so try, I'm being my generally helpful self and shepherding anyone who asks for the help.
Yeah, yeah, if you say so, I hope I can get through to him, I'm not good at all the helpy stuff.

hey, we noobs do not like to be trashed on. i resent even being called a noob. you're all going to make me start crying. cant we just all get along?
There is a large diffence between n00bs and newbs, you are a newb, some one who's new but doesn't post really annoying stuff and wants to learn.

thats it? thats all the advice you have.............

That's just the start, I'm an 05 nation, but I pick up on things fast, so just read my post, then the stickies, then come back here and we'll flesh some things aboutr your nation out.

he's already been booted. he wont be replying to you.

Yeah, yeah, if you say so, I hope I can get through to him, I'm not good at all the helpy stuff.

Try, you just might find a very good RPer under the facade of the n00b, and be understanding, treat him like an equal and you'll get better results.

he's already been booted. he wont be replying to you.

It figures, my warning came too late it seems.

It figures, my warning came too late it seems.
You just found out? I saw right away when Fris forumbanned him for a week.

hey watch it. dont gloat yourself over him just cause he just found out, buddy.

can you shepherd me MINI? im a noob, help me :(
Creating a moderator lookalike puppet to evade forumban will only get BOTH nations deleted, Bushido Kamigawa.

This thread has outlived its usefulness. iLock.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator
Forum and Game Rules (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023)