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National Conference Held in GMM: all weapons and vehicle suppliers invited

Grand master Mark
05-07-2005, 15:58
There was a bustle of noise throughout the conference room resonating from the four hundred or so men and woman attending the conference.

"Ahem", the room fell silent at the sound of President Hanchel's voice, "I would like to welcome all off you to this meeting. You may not know why you have been called here but thats what im here to inform you off. Firstly as some of you may know GMM has been engaged in a fierce civil war for little under a year causing us, as a nation, to be absent from foreign affairs. Finally after this long period of time we have been able to set up our government reinstate the true emperor and rebuild our towns and cities.

Unfortunately the war has put an extreme strain on our military and we are left with little or no defense besides our allies protection and we cannot go on like this. So we are to start an extreme military program involving arms, vehicles, missiles, vessels, aircraft and hopefully in the near future we can finish our space station "Gabriel 1". We need suppliers desperately and we are offering this whole job to one or more reliable companies.

Of Course you may doubt our ability to pay for such a build-up after the war but thanks to our plentiful natural resources, our high tax rate for the build up period, which has been approved by the public who want a defence system in place ,and the fact that we did not have to spend much money on the war due to our military's size at that time, donations from allies and friends and our countries wealth.

So to be frank I can offer you large sums of money, a good friend as a nation, the opportunity to setup warehouses in our country and not pay any taxes and finally the guarantee of future work going your way from us and our friends. Thankyou."

The President got up and walked off the stage and through a side door to the second conference room.

A man with glasses began to speak, "Now would any interested parties please make there way through to the lobby where we will call on you for an interview".

OOC: I think you'll find this deal tantalising and anyone interested please post here. I will need alot of arms etc so this will be a large project spanning some ns years. Thanks
The Kraven Corporation
05-07-2005, 16:09
To: Grand Master Mark
From: Manchillian Science Group (A group of the Kraven Corporation)

The Manchillian Science group are willing to assist in your countries endevours, the Corporation wishing to seek allies in future conflicts has allowed the release of these items and weapons -

GGHA (Biological Warefare agent)

and the Manchillian Science group is willing to develop an Assault rifle soley for sale in the Grand Master Mark nation, we hope that you will find this deal tantalising as well... and the MSG, hopes that setting up in your nation will prove a long term relationship that both nations can prosper from

yours

The Manchillian Science Group

(A group of the Kraven Corporation)
Grand master Mark
05-07-2005, 16:55
I accept your offer though I do not wish to purchase the biological weapons as I look down on these. I am, however, very interested in the idea of a custom assault rifle. I would like it to be top spec and ,once we have finalised a design, I hope to make it standard for the whole of the armed forces. Could you send me design eg pictures and specs as soon as you have them and name a price and you will have it.

Yours Graciously,
Prsident Hanchel
Space Union
05-07-2005, 17:22
To: GMM
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Help

We are willing to help your nation reform itself. We at Tylon Aerospace Industries produce aircrafts of all sorts that will meet any Air Force's need. We are willing to give your nation top-priority and a 10% discount on any purchases. We can discuss this further. Also our sister company, Federal Army Supply Corporation, is willing to supply you with army main battle tanks. They feature two very advanced MBTs, the SPM-192 and M1A5 Emperor Abram. If you are willing we can discuss the aquiring of these weapons by you.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
The Kraven Corporation
05-07-2005, 17:35
(OOC: this is my first time designing an Assault rifle)

MA33 Dual Purpose Assault and Support Rifle (Brought to you by the Manchillian Science Group)

Specs:

weight: 45lbs
length: 1.4 meters (from Pistol grip to Muzzle Flare dispersal)
Caliber: 7.62mm (although can be adapted to fire .50cal rounds)
Cylindric rate of fire: 640 rounds per minute
Magazine Capacity: 80 rounds

Fire modes: 5 round burst and Semi Auto

Designed for Short to medium range combat scenarios, designed for attacking or support roles

Average Range Optimal accuracy 150yards - 350 yards
Average Range Mediocre Accuracy 350yards - 450 yards
Average Range Poor Accuracy 450yards +

The MA33 is designed to act as an attacking or support weapon, is primarly used to pin down enemy formations with a heavy barrage of rounds, the support units would lay down concentrations of fire while, attacking units would move in for the kill.

the Short fall of accuracy with increased range, is made up for by the pyschological impact this can have on pinned down units.

Cost: $60.000 USD

upon confirmation of the Deal, production and initial field testing will begin before weapons are dispatched, however if there is such a need for the MA33 they will be dispatched prior to field testing and buyers own risk.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/HorusGodEmperor/MA33.bmp

(Note: Designs can be redrawn and modified until buyer is happy with product)

(OOC: Please excuse my blatant inability to use paint :) but i hope i got the idea i had in my head across :))
Grand master Mark
05-07-2005, 17:43
Space union I accept your offer and I need you to set a price. Also I will need pictures and specs emailed to me at an address i will telegram you with.

Kraven Corp I am pleased to hear this and am happy with the specs but on your price is it $60 for one rifle or 60000 for all of them bearing in mind I have an army of 1.284 billion men
The Kraven Corporation
05-07-2005, 17:53
The Price of $60.000 USD was for 1 of the GM33 Dual purpose Assault and Support Rifles

The Manchillian Science Group (A group of the Kraven Corporation)
Grand master Mark
05-07-2005, 18:39
60 thousand dollars for one gun!!!!!!!! assault rifle!
The Kraven Corporation
05-07-2005, 22:38
60 thousand dollars for one gun!!!!!!!! assault rifle!

(OOC: sorry, this is my first designed assault rifle, i priced it a bit too high)

IC:

The price of the MA33 is $60.000 USD, this is for a crate of 30 assault rifles, including 6 boxes of ammunition for each rifle stored

Apologies for this little misunderstanding

The Manchillian Science Group (A group of the Kraven Corporation)
Grand master Mark
05-07-2005, 22:43
Don't worry about it I remeber when I first tried to add up numbers for my military. I was a noob and I gave myself a 5 million man military. I look back laughing now. Anyway thats fine can those guns be made in mass production and then made standard for all the men?
Verghastinsel
05-07-2005, 23:00
Weight: 4.5lbs This is heavy, really heavy. The optimum weight for any rifle is aroun 3.5ibs.
length: 1.4 meters (from Pistol grip to Muzzle Flare dispersal) This is HUGE. Most rifles now are around 850-1000mm.
Caliber: 7.62mm (although can be adapted to fire .50cal rounds) Your choice, but the difference between being hit with a 7.62 and a 5.56 isn't that much. The big difference is the weight of the individual rounds. I have a few of each, and the 7.62 is about TWICE as heavy. You can carry a hell of a lot more ammunition with 5.56's, and the muzzle velocity is typically around 250m/s faster.
CylindricIt's CYCLIC rate. rate of fire: 640 rounds per minute Meh. AK47 is 700rpm, so this is fair enough.
Magazine Capacity: 80 rounds Like hell. This makes the gun REALLY heavy, especially with 7.62's. Most rifles have 30 round mags for a reason.

Fire modes: 5 round burst and Semi Auto 5 round burst is fine with 80 rounds, but as that's rather unrealistic I'd reccomend just having a 3 round burst, or a full auto function.

Designed for Short to medium range combat scenarios, designed for attacking or support roles. Duh. It's an assault rifle. That's what they're all for.

Average Range Optimal accuracy 150yards - 350 yards
Average Range Mediocre Accuracy 350yards - 450 yards
Average Range Poor Accuracy 450yards + Good distances, pretty fair.

OOC: Some notes on the rifle. Good for a first try, but you might want to make a few changes.
Verghastinsel
05-07-2005, 23:18
OOC: Incidentally, you might want to purchase one of Verghastinsel Armament's home-brewed rifles. I would reccomend the StG05M1, as the most modern, improved version of the original StG88M2. Also, it's a bullpup, allowing for a shorter, lighter rifle with the same degree of accuracy. Here's the excerpt from my storefront...

Verghastinsel Armaments Sturmgewehr 2005 Model 1 Assault Rifle - StG05M1 (Standard issue Vergastinselheer paratroop rifle)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Verghastinsel/StG05M1.bmp
Caliber: 5.56x45mm (.223in (.219in)) NATO
Velocity: 1,005m/s
Length: 772mm
Weight (Empty): 3.65kg
Capacity: 30 rds (Box)
Fire Modes: Single Shot/Burst(2)/Burst(3)/Full Automatic
RoF: N/A(S)/700rpm(2,3)/550rpm(F)
Per Ten Units: 3,500 USD

Please excuse the picture. I had to do it pixel-by-pixel in paint, due to the weapon being near entirely of my own design. Most of the small arms in my storefront are done thus, due to the small addition of a rail-sight rather than conventional iron sights. Also, you'll notice that the StG05M1 is considerably cheaper than Kraven Corp's proposed item. I wish him all the best, but this is a competetive market, and the best rifle wins.
Mondoth
05-07-2005, 23:19
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Grand master Mark
05-07-2005, 23:29
It seems you know your stuff Verghastinsel and im afraid Kraven I am going to have to reject your offer and go with this one. Verghastinsel, can you make enough of these to arm my army?
Also do you have any other weapons I may purchase?
Verghastinsel
05-07-2005, 23:39
Verghastinsel Armaments (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408827&page=1&pp=15), a government-owned company, supplies the entire armed forces of Verghastinsel with both small arms and vehicles, in addition to many international customers. Our products are all reliable, cost-effective and practical. Additionally, infantry packages have been prepared, with the equipment required to quickly equip a full infantry Company (108) or Battalion (551).

OOC: I've spent bloody ages putting this together. Either click the hyperlink above, or the one in my signature. Additionally, you might want to have a look at 'The Verghastan Combat Infantryman' for my army's rank system and organisation. I find it more convincing to deploy seven Legions to an area than thirty-five thousand men and 'some tanks'.
The Kraven Corporation
06-07-2005, 10:06
It seems you know your stuff Verghastinsel and im afraid Kraven I am going to have to reject your offer and go with this one. Verghastinsel, can you make enough of these to arm my army?
Also do you have any other weapons I may purchase?

The Manchillian Science Group is dissapointed with your decision to accept another offer, however this is not a major blow to either the Corporation or the Group, however we urge you to reconsider the deal of GGHA please accept this free dossier of the weapon and its characteristics before totally dismissing it

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428496

Yours

The Manchillian Science Group

(OOC: no worries, it was my first time designing a rifle, and Verghastinsel has given me some good pointers, and ill rectify the ones i feel need rectifying, the weapon was designed to be put on a gyromount, that would support all of its weight, the 80 round mag, is because it a box chain fed ammunition, and the length, the length i just liked the idea of a large assault rifles mounted on a gyromount spitting lead all over... in effect its more of a GPMG used in an Assault rifle role)
Grand master Mark
06-07-2005, 10:33
Altough I don't normally agree with bio weapons the GGHA seems to be harmfull but very usefull. I will buy 10

money wired on delivery
Brydog
06-07-2005, 13:32
M-57
Standard issued Rifle for Republic Military.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/zm_LR300sr.jpg
Caliber - 7.82x51mm
Mode- select fire
Magazine capacity- 15 or 30-round standard
16.5" barrel length, 18.5" with sound suppressor
Overall length: folded - 21.5", unfolded - 31.0"
Weight- 7.0 lbs.
Rate of fire - 950 rounds per minute
Range: 1,750m
Price:$1,595

more weapons are shown at the storefront in sig.