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The end of my career on NS as a roleplayer and my new role (All tech, FT Especially)

Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 07:45
OoC: First and foremost, I'd like to explain something: I'm no longer going to be RPing on Nationstates, at least not under this name. By a combination of boredom, sense of duty, and damaged ego, I no longer feel that I wish to write here. Boredom in that it seems nothing really goes on that is really big anymore in FT and I'm insanely bored of MT merely because everyone is so embroiled in numbers and big guns. Sense of duty because I feel I'm slandering the wonderful world I spent the last four years creating by using it in something as ignoble as an RP world and I feel I need to get around to writing my book. Damaged ego because it seems that, whenever I spend hours writing a detailed, well thought out post, I need to spend the next three days bumping it before any response, and the next week waiting for any actual RPing.

Instead, I'm going to stay and do the one thing I still find fun: design ships. I, of course, will not be building them, but I will sell (only because it'd be unfair to give them away for free) the designs to whomever has the needed cash to buy them. Of course, some of the designs will be quite cheap in comparison, namely because some of these ships will be ****ing masterpieces that will take countless resources to build. I'm not so greedy that I should make you sell an arm to buy the blueprints and sell the other arm and a leg to build the ship.

So, without further ado, the Lord of Creation (A working name, I have yet to think of a really good official name) class Behemoth.



Proportions:
Overall Length: 80 Miles or 128 Kilometers (At longest point)
Overall Width: 19.5 Miles or 32 Kilometers (At widest point)
Overall Depth: 5 Miles or 8 Kilometers (at deepest point)

As one of the biggest, if not the biggest, ships ever designed for the NS universe, the Lord of Creation is designed for nothing more than absolute dominance. When this thing drops out of hyperspace, you notice and, depending upon who's side it is on, you either turn tail and run or sit back and open a bottle of wine to celebrate your victory.

Armor:
Average Armor Thickness: 3 Feet or 90 Centimeters
Superstructure Armor Thickness: 5 Feet or 150 Centimeters
Main Gun Armor Thickness: 1.5 Feet or 45 Centimeters

Knowing the huge investment a ship such as this is, one would suspect it would be heavily armored to protect the sheer amount of resources put into it. Expect no less. Using the most advanced armor systems, equipped with active projectile deflection, the Lord of Creation class will be a castle to any enemy's axe.

Propulsion:
Main Drive Bank: 1 Magnetically Buffered Anti-Matter/Matter Reaction Nozzle
Secondary Drive Banks: 2 Magnetically Buffered Anti-Matter/Matter Reaction Nozzle
Maneuvering Banks: 100000 Magnetically Buffered Anti-Matter/Matter Burst Jets spread in banks of four throughout the ship's hull

Moving something this amazingly large requires a LOT of energy. Ergo, each engine has its own power-system completely independent of the main ship's supply and the other engines. They can, however, be re-routed to feed off of the main power system during non-com,bat situations when power is not needed for weapons and shields.

Trans-Light Propulsion:
Main Trans-Light Drive: 1 Multi-Dimensional Hyperspace Drive
Emergency Trans-Light Drive: 4 Spatial Wave Motivator Drive

Armament:
1 Solenoid Magnetic Acceleration Cannon (SMAC or Smack Gun)
5000 Van de Graaff Electromagnetic Cannon (VeGEC or Graaf Cannon)
2000 High Energy Particle Acceleration Cannon (HEPAC or Pack Cannon)
1500 Direct Launch Missile Cells (DLC)
10000 Point Defense Plasma Cloud-Charge Launchers (PCCL or Pixel Launcher)

While the armament of this vessal doesn't show as much diversity as is seen in various smaller ships of different origin, one might not find such variety necessary when one sees the sheer power and tactical usefulness of each weapon system


Power Generation:
1 Casimir Zero Point Field Energy Generation System
10 Anti-Matter/Matter Reactor

Arguably the most advanced piece of technology on the class, this system allows limitless power to be harvested from space itself. While the actual energy per second is limited, no fuel is needed and the system can run indefinitely. The generators for the ship's drive systems can also be plugged back through into its other systems.

Shielding:
40 Independent Magnetic Force Wire Shielding
80 Null Field Generators

While the general idea behind shielding for most designers is to have shields that will stop any punishment the hull of a ship will take, the Lord of Creation takes a different path. Utylizing simple but immensely powerful magnetic fields generated by a moving current through wire systems spread throughout the entire ship, weaponry of all types are slowed as they enter the field proper increasingly, according the inverse square principle, until they impact the armored hull at a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of their initial velocity. Energy weaponry and explosive tipped warheads are of no more threat due to seperate solutions, energy weaponry being canceled by a nullification field around the ship that is able to accomplish much the same effect on the energy content of a particle beam/etc as the magnetic shielding by expanding an additional spatial dimension around the ship, creating an energy sink. Explosive weaponry is easily defeated by a combination of the magnetic shielding and the null fields.



Now that you have the basics, the nitty-gritty of the technology involved must be explained. Most of what has gone into this ship is at least feasibly possible either now or within the century. That which isn't is mostly based in modern physics and is possible on a theoretical level.



The armor for the Lord of Creation class is the one thing I've let myself go completely on. It utylizes an element invented for my book, quadranium, that is, for all intents and purposes, perfect for a civilization with mass matter transmution capabilities and that is in need of superhot superconductors (superhot being room temperature, of course ~_-). It is the heaviest naturally occuring element known and, in fact, heavier than many man-made elements. It is stable and a super-conductor at temperatures 200 degrees celsius and down. It is very rare, however, as it only occurs at the center of Sol or larger sized main sequence stars and extremely large solid planets (think something 100 times the size of Earth).

This quadranium is compressed using gravitational fields so that what would normally 30 or so feet worth of armor becomes 3. Q4, the basic armor compound for quadranium, is so dense that only neutronium can be considered better. Best of all, however, is that the molecules maintain their superconductivity throughout the compression process, meaning a mild charge can be run through the entire system to allow for the deflection of shrapnel and other penetrating weapons while it is still entering the armor. This concept is actually going to enter use by the British relativily soon, but the Compressed Q4 does it a lot better than anything the Brits might try.




Basic, right? Everyone and thier mother uses AM/M for power generation and these are no different. The anti-matter/matter reactors create the power and are used to propel matter recoved from the vacuum out of magnetic baffles that can direct the stream. One application of Newton's third law later, you get an impulse.

The pulse jets that are used for maneuvering work by the same principle, they just share AM/M power generators instead of having their own. The baffles allow for multi-directional firing and the sheer number of jets give the ship maneuverability you'd only expect on a ship a tiny fraction of its size.



This is where it gets fun. The first, main drive is something that is rooted on a very primitive level in modern physics but is probably not entirely accurate nor possible. It's still cool, though.

It works by using a direct application of energy to a single point (it takes the entire power generation of the ship over a second to accomplish this, but batteries are utylized so basic functions are not lost) to break the bonds keeping the fourth spatial dimension in its hyper-compressed form. A computer then catches it as it expands, keeping it at a level so it is not equal with the more familiar three other spatial dimensions. Then a single burst from a four-dimensional jet takes the ship out of the three familiar dimensional space and into hyperspace. Since the fourth dimension is kept arbitrarily small, it takes much less time to travel from point A to point B. The total displacement of the ship depends on both its sublight engine power and the speed of its computer system. The faster the system the smaller the fourth dimension is.

The second system is something scientists today are working on. It might be possible if negative energy is something we can tap into. Basically what it does is circumvent the speed limit on matter and energy by moving space. A pocket of space is folded around a ship then moved forward. The ship itself never actually moves, it's like those moving walkways you see at airports. This system, however, is only a backup.



The main weapon, the granddaddy of them all, is a cannon that launches kilometer long projectiles at up to .9 the speed of light. It uses a series of massive superconducting coils of wire to accelerate the projectile. These coils are known as solenoids. The coil is turned on, so the round is pulled towards the middle of the coil, and when it reaches the middle, the coil is turned off and the next on in the series is turned on. On and on for a total of an 18.5 mile long barrel, accelerating half the time. Since the total acceleration process is accomplished in a matter of .001 seconds, a 809554276666 kilogram projectile, as is standard on the Lord of Creation, can deliver over 22 exatons of force, that is 22 x 10^18 tons of force. There is a magazine of 300 of these projectiles and the weapon can be fired twice in three minutes.

The Van de Graaf Electromagnetic Cannon is a weapon we could very well use for space combat today. It uses a very advanced Van de Graaf Generator half submerged in the ship's armor belt that is charged by a particle stream capable of bringing a single generator to full capacity in 6 seconds. Since the vacuum of space prevents the weapon from being discharged unless the weapons officer wants to, charges can be maintained indefinitely. A small turret fires a stream of ions from the base of the generator to whatever the target is. Once the connection is made, the generator automatically discharges its capacitance. This weapon has a variable yield, with the smaller yields being able to fire faster. Maximum capacitance allows for the discharging of a bolt with total force of 500 gigatons.

The High Energy particle Acceleration Cannon uses magnetic fields to hypercondense a certain amount of energy forming a very unstable article of matter. This matter is accelerated using basic SMAC technology at whatever target the weapons officer choses. This weapon is generally used as a point defense weapon.

Direct Launch Missile Cells are 15 tube cells that use hydrolics to move a tube above the field of the cell and rotate it in a 180 by 180 degree arc so it can fire a missile straight at whatever target it might have. The tubes are small enough that every other tube can be used in this way at the same time in a given cell. The tubes then return to their resting position for reloading.

Plasma Cloud-Charge Launchers are simply hardpoints on the hull of the ship that launch small explosive charges that contain a magnetic bottle with a patch of hypercondensed plasma within it. When the explosive goes off, the bottle is destroyed and a cloud of superhot plasma forms. This works to both trap energy beams and to destroy things such a missiles and small or medium fighters.



The zero point field. A cup of space could boil all the oceans on the Earth. Just imagine what miles of the stuff could do. That's what the Casimir Energy Generation System is. It utylizes the attraction between two uncharged plate due to the fluctuations in their magnetic fields to generate immense amounts of power indefinitely. While even a very large plate is limited in its energy per second abilities, the fact that a generator can be put under the deck plates of every level in the Lord of Creation, already a massive ship, gives an immense amount of power for the ship to work with.




The Magnetic Force Wire Shielding system uses 40 seperate webs of superconducting wire to create powerful magnetic fields that will slow incoming projectiles according to the inverse square law. There are many seperate webs so that destroying one line will not cut the whole system off.

The Null Field works on the same principle as the hyperdrive, but it doesn't use quite as much power. It only requires an investment when it is intially brought up and, since it hugs the hull of the ship, it does not effect the performance of one's own weaponry. It uses energy bleed-off into a fourth spatial dimension and the ship's lack of a fourth dimensional extent to extensivily lower the power of any energy weaponry brought to bear on the Lord of Creation. The ship's armor then takes care of the feeble energy left.


It also has a lot of cool, misc type technologies, such as my personal navigational system, the globular holopad, the long distance command hologram projector and creator, SAAD instantenous communication devices, quantum computers, and GAD sensors.

The Globular Holopad is a simple device that makes navigation in space just as simple. Any three numbers can describe any vector and speed in a three dimensional space battlefield. The system itself is a holographic projection of two circles that bisect each other. Each circle is split into 360 degrees which are further split into micro-degrees. The first number input designates a degree point on the horizontal circle, which aligns the ship's vector arrow with that point. The second number designates a point on the vertical circle, which tilts the entire horizontal circle to be in alignment with this point, bringing the vector arrow with it. The third number designates the ship's speed.

The long distance command hologram projector and creator are actually two seperate technologies that work together to allow ship's captains to command their ship as if they were there in person without actually having to be there in person, should the need arise. It also allows fleet officers to take command of a ship should the need arise. The first technology is the creator, which is basically just a small depression in the floor of a ship's bridge paired with a projection in the ceiling just above it. The projection emits a beam of coherent light that flows over any object in the floor depression. This creates a three dimensional copy of the object digitally. This is sent to any ship that the creator is connected with and fed through the hologram projectors on the bridge. There are many that allow the hologram created of the object to wander the bridge of the ship it is transmitting to at will without distortion. A beneficial side-effect is that all the matter and quanta that interact with the hologram can be transmitted back to the creator, allowing the object to "see" the bridge it is transmitted to.

SAAD instantaneous communications devices utylize Bell's Theorum to link two particles together and use this to transmit a binary code anywhere they are linked to instantaneously. A cloud of these particles can transmit an entire complex computer program very quickly

A quantum computer makes use of the particular properties of quantum sized particles to create superpositions of the standard binary machine language understood by computers everywhere. This system allows for processers thousands of times faster than silicon chips.

GADs are Gravimetric Anamoly Detectors that peek into the space-time curve to see distortions in the local field caused by gravity.

A single one of these ships was built as a proof of concept. It will spend the next RL months being refitted with weaponry and shielding so it is combat ready. It will be on sale at that time. For now, the blueprints are available to anyone with the cash to buy them.

This particular ship's blueprints goes for 300 billion. It may seem a lot for just blueprints, but it isn't anything at all in comparison to what it will cost to build this.

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Joseph Seal
04-07-2005, 07:58
OOC: I'll buy it for 500 billion gladly. :D
Halberdgardia
04-07-2005, 08:24
The Democratic Republic is absolutely stunned and awed by the sheer size of the Lord of Creation-class superdreadnaught (OOC: at least, that's what I think of it as), and will gladly purchase production rights/blueprints for the sum of $300 billion, coming from our considerable storefront revenues (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428641). Additionally, we are willing to pay whatever sum you think fit for the finished proof-of-concept vessel, after its retrofitting is complete. We also would like to inquire as to the per-vessel costs of construction and annual upkeep.
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 08:52
The Democratic Republic is absolutely stunned and awed by the sheer size of the Lord of Creation-class superdreadnaught (OOC: at least, that's what I think of it as), and will gladly purchase production rights/blueprints for the sum of $300 billion, coming from our considerable storefront revenues (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428641). Additionally, we are willing to pay whatever sum you think fit for the finished proof-of-concept vessel, after its retrofitting is complete. We also would like to inquire as to the per-vessel costs of construction and annual upkeep.

Your request for purchase is noted. The blueprints, for means of security, will not be transmitted by any kind of interceptable network. We ask only that you provide a location at which you wish them delivered, and this will be done.

As to the construction costs, they are variable within the nation that choses to build the ship. The PoC that was built is expected to have sucked up a total of 600 trillion universal credits when it is done being refitted. A subsequently built-from-the-ground-up ship would more likely cost in the range of 100 trillion to 300 trillion, depending on the available resources of a nation.

Of course, all technologies required to build the ship will be provided with blueprints sold.

Upkeep cost varies depending upon how automated you make the ship. The crew compliment for the ship when it is as mechanized as possible is a "mere" 100,000 sailors and 1,500 officers, but a human controlled vessel can require up to as much as 750,000 sailors and 8,000 officers.

The PoC ship, the Lord of Creation itself, is expected to carry an upkeep cost of 2.5 trillion universal credits per Earth annum, varying 500 billion either way depending upon conditions.

Finally, since I am no longer interested in profits, the Lord of Creation is expected to be sold for 250 trillion universal credits, though the idea of an auction has been entertained.
Scellia
04-07-2005, 09:16
OOC: If anyone tries to build thier own I'll talk about cost, I think that you may have priced a little low but not by much, I agree with your high end from ground up estimates mostly. How many RL months did it take you to build the first one, that is usually the breaker for the ultra huge ships, is that it takes many RL months to construct a monster that size? If you do start bidding I will be most interested in the starting bid price.
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 09:21
OOC: If anyone tries to build thier own I'll talk about cost, I think that you may have priced a little low but not by much, I agree with your high end from ground up estimates mostly. How many RL months did it take you to build the first one, that is usually the breaker for the ultra huge ships, is that it takes many RL months to construct a monster that size? If you do start bidding I will be most interested in the starting bid price.

Since this is a mix of RP and pure OoC salesmenship, the proof of concept ship was assumed to be built over the four and a half months I've been researching an designing this thing. It is, of course, missing Null shields and any armament whatsoever, so the additional month it takes to finish up rounds the time cost out to six months, including provisioning prior to first combat deployment.

I would estimate a ground-up build would take roughly the same amount of time considering that it would be built along much the same lines, perhaps taking only five months instead of six.

The starting bidding price will be decidedly lower than the approximated building price to attract people to the auction, should I chose to do one.
Joseph Seal
04-07-2005, 09:30
OOC: Ok, OFFICIAL IC post.

IC: The nation of Joseph Seal is stunned by this ship, and will gladly buy the plans for 300 billion dollars. We are sending the coordinates to pick up the plans now.

*SECRET TRANSMISSION PART*

We would like to pick up the plans 1 lightyear away from the distant Dreighton Nebula. A Star Destroyer named the Freedom will be waiting for you there.

*END SECRET TRANSMISSION PART*

We thank you for your business.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

OOC: To make it fair, when I start building the ship, it will take approximately 7 months to complete and be ready for active duty.(Give or take 2 months)
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 09:49
OOC: Ok, OFFICIAL IC post.

IC: The nation of Joseph Seal is stunned by this ship, and will gladly buy the plans for 300 million dollars. We are sending the coordinates to pick up the plans now.

*SECRET TRANSMISSION PART*

We would like to pick up the plans 1 lightyear away from the distant Dreighton Nebula. A Star Destroyer named the Freedom will be waiting for you there.

*END SECRET TRANSMISSION PART*

We thank you for your business.

-Arfus Sealous: Emperor of Joseph Seal

OOC: To make it fair, when I start building the ship, it will take approximately 7 months to complete and be ready for active duty.(Give or take 2 months)


OoC: 300 billion, BTW, but I'll assume that was a typo.

IC:

A transport ship of the appropriate technological level will be dispatched to the provided coordinates.
Tanthan
04-07-2005, 09:53
OOC: OMFG! *kneels down* MASTER! This is the best design and so much thought was put into it, if i had a decent RPer to put this much thought and work into it to make such a masterful work so clearly displayed, and not to mention nicely, I'd never RP with others again!

IC:

This work is surprising, though vastly different from our technology; a high council has decided to spend the large amount of $300 billion for the blueprints to such a majestic vessel! Easily surpassing Tanthan's pulse detonation and 2nd tier Fusion power cells the ship is a model of efficency! Such advanced technology is a marvel and surpasses our own technological fields by leaps and bounds. Tanthan would be honored to ask if scientists and engineers who worked on the Lord of Creation to teach our own scientists and engineers on how to build the behemoth.

If your nation chooses to accept an all expense paid first-class transport vessel will pick up your best minds along with the plans and escort them for a period of one earth year for an intensive revamping of our own technology to create such a wonder. Tanthan will spend a massive two trillion dollars for the pleasure of the scientists towards achieving this goal of Tanthan to be the technological superiority in this quadrant of space. More details on this luxurious offer if expressed intrest is true. Tanthan will gladly go above and beyond for the rights and know-how to build the Lord of Creation!
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 10:05
OOC: OMFG! *kneels down* MASTER! This is the best design and so much thought was put into it, if i had a decent RPer to put this much thought and work into it to make such a masterful work so clearly displayed, and not to mention nicely, I'd never RP with others again!

IC:

This work is surprising, though vastly different from our technology; a high council has decided to spend the large amount of $300 billion for the blueprints to such a majestic vessel! Easily surpassing Tanthan's pulse detonation and 2nd tier Fusion power cells the ship is a model of efficency! Such advanced technology is a marvel and surpasses our own technological fields by leaps and bounds. Tanthan would be honored to ask if scientists and engineers who worked on the Lord of Creation to teach our own scientists and engineers on how to build the behemoth.

If your nation chooses to accept an all expense paid first-class transport vessel will pick up your best minds along with the plans and escort them for a period of one earth year for an intensive revamping of our own technology to create such a wonder. Tanthan will spend a massive two trillion dollars for the pleasure of the scientists towards achieving this goal of Tanthan to be the technological superiority in this quadrant of space. More details on this luxurious offer if expressed intrest is true. Tanthan will gladly go above and beyond for the rights and know-how to build the Lord of Creation!

I must regret to inform you that this design and also the proof of concept were completed by only one being: myself. I cannot adequetely explain to you what I am, I don't truely understand it either.

I would be willing, however, to take several scientists of your choice under my wing and I will attempt to teach them the things I know. From there they may return to your nation and spread the knowledge.

Also, your request of purchase is noted. I...cannot provide you with my location at this exact moment, but if you were to proceed to a rather distinct trinary system on the edges of the Iso Nebula in what used to be Airlian Space, I believe I can get a transport of the appropriate technological level there to meet you.

Any scientists you might bring along that wish to learn from me need only board the transport during the transfer.
Joseph Seal
04-07-2005, 10:15
OOC: Yeah, that was a typo. My bad. ^_^;
Vespeterium Minor
04-07-2005, 11:10
I'll pay you much less than it's worth!!
Kanuckistan
04-07-2005, 13:41
OOC: OMFG! *kneels down* MASTER! This is the best design and so much thought was put into it, if i had a decent RPer to put this much thought and work into it to make such a masterful work so clearly displayed, and not to mention nicely, I'd never RP with others again!


OOC:
It's nice n' all, but aside from the scale(ship and weaponry), it's not really that impressive.

Rather well thought-out, but I don't think I've seen any new tech concepts in there(which, I know, can be extreamly fustrating for us folks who like to design their own tech; I know I keep finding out folks have already come up with things I thought were unique).

Armour seems damn thin, but this thing appears to mainly rely on it's shields(fields?) to dampen inbound fire.
Central Facehuggeria
04-07-2005, 13:51
I love how well thought out it is. I do not however love how bloody massive it is. Big ships are fine by my reckoning (don't get me wrong) but there's a lot of people out there who think that even a twenty kilometer long ship is too much. I'm more liberal than that, but eighty miles? The thing would be the biggest target from here to Proxima Centauri.

It's very detailed and it shows you put a lot of work into it, but the scaling just seems to defy imagination and more importantly, practicality. Although we have people who claim to construct Ringworlds and Dyson Spheres so I guess I can't complain much. :p

Meh.

If you're looking for an RP, you should probably consider doing something with one of the many active or semi-active FT alliances out there. Or do something with genocide, that's always a way to get people to play with you. :p

I'll keep an eye out for your name in the future though, if your RPs are as detailed as your ship designs, they should be great.
ElectronX
04-07-2005, 16:03
So now you have decided to design the biggest wankiest space penis in II (that would be an automatic IGNORE) to subsidize your no longer RP'ing here?
Underwater Asylum
04-07-2005, 17:09
The Grand Empire of Underwater Asylum officially requests to purchase these plans.

Signed,
The True Emperor, Phoren Narqu.
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 19:38
OOC:
It's nice n' all, but aside from the scale(ship and weaponry), it's not really that impressive.

Rather well thought-out, but I don't think I've seen any new tech concepts in there(which, I know, can be extreamly fustrating for us folks who like to design their own tech; I know I keep finding out folks have already come up with things I thought were unique).

Armour seems damn thin, but this thing appears to mainly rely on it's shields(fields?) to dampen inbound fire.

No new tech concepts? Oh, I hope no one started using generators that take advantage of the Casimir Effect, weaponized van de graaf generators, null shields, GAD sensors, and holographic technology that basically amounts to teleportation while I was busy researching and designing this ship!

And size concerns? So says the man who runs a small fleet of Battle Plates

:P

Honestly though thanks for the positive comments and I can understand where you're coming for the negatives. When I first started RPing FT last year I was rather satisfied with FT on the scale that it seemed most people only borrowed small amounts from existing sci-fi. I made my own technologies, etc without borrowing much at all from other sci-fi and was happy with the useful yet unnervingly primitive technology I had.

Rather disappoints me how popular directly borrowing from Star Wars has become, but to each his own I guess.


I love how well thought out it is. I do not however love how bloody massive it is. Big ships are fine by my reckoning (don't get me wrong) but there's a lot of people out there who think that even a twenty kilometer long ship is too much. I'm more liberal than that, but eighty miles? The thing would be the biggest target from here to Proxima Centauri.

It's very detailed and it shows you put a lot of work into it, but the scaling just seems to defy imagination and more importantly, practicality. Although we have people who claim to construct Ringworlds and Dyson Spheres so I guess I can't complain much.

Meh.

If you're looking for an RP, you should probably consider doing something with one of the many active or semi-active FT alliances out there. Or do something with genocide, that's always a way to get people to play with you.

I'll keep an eye out for your name in the future though, if your RPs are as detailed as your ship designs, they should be great.

Quite frankly, I've only got one RP left and that's when a certain someone takes over my space so I can provide some closure. Until then and after that, I'm going to abandon RPing.

And I don't think FT will ever again live up to my hopes and expectations as well as it did during the Shivan Wars last year.

As to the size: The Casimir effect is governed by the equation



(h x c x pi^2/240 x d^4) x A

Where h is Planck's constant (6.626 x 10-34 m2 kg / s, about), c is the speed of light in a vacuum (3 x 10^8 m/s, about), d is the distance between the two plates in meters, and A is the area of the two plates in square meters.

As you can see, area plays a rather significant role in the power generated by my system. The bigger, quite literally the better.

So now you have decided to design the biggest wankiest space penis in II (that would be an automatic IGNORE) to subsidize your no longer RP'ing here?

Der Angst, is that you?

The Grand Empire of Underwater Asylum officially requests to purchase these plans.

Signed,
The True Emperor, Phoren Narqu.

Your request is noted. If you provide a location, a transport of the appropriate technological level will be dispatched.
Kanuckistan
04-07-2005, 20:03
No new tech concepts? Oh, I hope no one started using generators that take advantage of the Casimir Effect, weaponized van de graaf generators, null shields, GAD sensors, and holographic technology that basically amounts to teleportation while I was busy researching and designing this ship!



Zero-Point Energy, lightning guns, damper-fields, mass-detectors; those are the basic classifications for the immunerible ways to impliment such concepts.

Tho I've never heard anyone explain how they could get energy out of the Casimir Effect(tho iirc it has nothing to do with magnetic fields and everything to do with the longer wavelengths of ZPE not being able to fit between the closly spaced plates, resulting in a 'partial vacume' type scenario with 'external pressure' generated as a result, pushing them together. That was several years ago, however, and I'm somewhat sleep-deprived at the moment, so I might not be recalling it correctly*shrug*).


And size concerns? So says the man who runs a small fleet of Battle Plates

:P


Battleplates are only 13 kilometers long, and Superfortresses 3km, and I only have 3 of the former, 7 of the later, and some frigates for my entire military.

Building a new Battleplate with all the upgrades I've made over the centuries would also be much more expensive than one of your ships.

:p
Tanthan
04-07-2005, 20:05
A small transport vessel approaches the outer reaches of Iso Nebula. On board are the top scientists of Tanthan along with the the $3,300,000,000,000 needed to purchase the plans and money for the teaching of the scientists.

"Now we need to find our mysterious master of technology...." mumbled the ships captain, looking out on the Iso Nebula.
Draconic Order
04-07-2005, 20:10
((Great, another big tech wank to worry about... thankfully I avoid that stuff.))
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 20:28
Zero-Point Energy, lightning guns, damper-fields, mass-detectors; those are the basic classifications for the immunerible ways to impliment such concepts.

If you dumb it down that much, nothing can possibly be original.

Tho I've never heard anyone explain how they could get energy out of the Casimir Effect(tho iirc it has nothing to do with magnetic fields and everything to do with the longer wavelengths of ZPE not being able to fit between the closly spaced plates, resulting in a 'partial vacume' type scenario with 'external pressure' generated as a result, pushing them together. That was several years ago, however, and I'm somewhat sleep-deprived at the moment, so I might not be recalling it correctly*shrug*).

*Shrugs*, it's two ways of saying the same thing. It's just one is a lot a simpler in word count.

As to getting energy out: photons actually get a noticable acceleration going through the area between the two plates. Excess energy is collected on the "out" portion.




Battleplates are only 13 kilometers long, and Superfortresses 3km, and I only have 3 of the former, 7 of the later, and some frigates for my entire military.

Building a new Battleplate with all the upgrades I've made over the centuries would also be much more expensive than one of your ships.:p

Beh, I always figured people overprice things in FT, anyway (they price things from an MT viewpoint without considering how very different all the various cost contributors would be in FT).

A small transport vessel approaches the outer reaches of Iso Nebula. On board are the top scientists of Tanthan along with the the $3,300,000,000,000 needed to purchase the plans and money for the teaching of the scientists.

"Now we need to find our mysterious master of technology...." mumbled the ships captain, looking out on the Iso Nebula.

A similar, yet not identical, vessel emerges from the cloud and begins broadcasting a locator beacon as it enters the trinary the Airlians once knew as Lotea yai Jusia, the Gems of the Sky. The beautiful system, made up of a burgeoning red giant and two relativily stable but still degrading yellow stars, follows an orbital path so complex that many species might find the mathematics needed to calculate it arrive after they've already developed the faster-than-light technology needed to visit it.

The ship settles into one of the lagrange points of the system nearest the nebula and begins to wait.
Central Facehuggeria
04-07-2005, 20:44
Quite frankly, I've only got one RP left and that's when a certain someone takes over my space so I can provide some closure. Until then and after that, I'm going to abandon RPing.

And I don't think FT will ever again live up to my hopes and expectations as well as it did during the Shivan Wars last year.


So you're abandoning RPing permanently? :(

Did you participate in the Shivan wars under another name? Or were you just an onlooker?
Chaos Experiment
04-07-2005, 20:46
So you're abandoning RPing permanently? :(

Did you participate in the Shivan wars under another name? Or were you just an onlooker?

I was an onlooker to the last quarter. I was also going to be involved in the ESUS - AoN wars that never went anywhere.

And yeah, I might RP occasionally as the fancy takes me, but I won't ever be doing things on a large scale again (the freedom my current nation gives me allows me to do this since I have, literally, millions of characters to chose from that never need build permenent relationships).
Chaos Experiment
05-07-2005, 00:27
^^
Tanthan
05-07-2005, 00:31
The scientists along with the money are prepared to board the waiting transport vessel and wait to come aboard.
Chaos Experiment
05-07-2005, 00:49
The scientists along with the money are prepared to board the waiting transport vessel and wait to come aboard.

What the...?

Where am I?

Oh.

Oh, ok.

What was that?

Is that all you need me to do?

Ok, and after I'm done?

Well that isn't too reassuring.

Ok fine fine, I'll do it

One second he wasn't there and the bridge of the transport ship was empty. The next, it was a bustling center of activity and he sat in the captain's chair. Looking around, it took him a moment to remember where he was and what he was supposed to be doing.

His recall was assisted by the report of a hail from a ship requesting permission to dock, "Well, ehem, transmit permission and freeze our vector then Mr...Mr...um", he froze as he realized he had no idea who the appropriate officers were, "just do it colonel!"

He got a confirmation from the unfamiliar man and, without being further puzzled by the situation, turned to the comms officer and ordered him to begin preparing a message for the incoming vessel.


Hello, this is Captain...uh...this is the captain of the vessel...transport...of the transport that is carrying your recent purchase and bringing your scientists to...um...their destination.

I must warn you, however, that I do not know what will happen to them or where they will go. I can only tell you that they will be returned after sufficient time unharmed and unaltered except for the impartation of knowledge.

Um...Transport out.
Tanthan
05-07-2005, 00:54
There were no regrets or stalling, the scientists proceeded and were ready for the chance to learn of the technology, they prepared their whole lives to be the best in technology for Tanthan, now they would get that chance.
Halberdgardia
05-07-2005, 01:26
Your request for purchase is noted. The blueprints, for means of security, will not be transmitted by any kind of interceptable network. We ask only that you provide a location at which you wish them delivered, and this will be done.

As to the construction costs, they are variable within the nation that choses to build the ship. The PoC that was built is expected to have sucked up a total of 600 trillion universal credits when it is done being refitted. A subsequently built-from-the-ground-up ship would more likely cost in the range of 100 trillion to 300 trillion, depending on the available resources of a nation.

Of course, all technologies required to build the ship will be provided with blueprints sold.

Upkeep cost varies depending upon how automated you make the ship. The crew compliment for the ship when it is as mechanized as possible is a "mere" 100,000 sailors and 1,500 officers, but a human controlled vessel can require up to as much as 750,000 sailors and 8,000 officers.

The PoC ship, the Lord of Creation itself, is expected to carry an upkeep cost of 2.5 trillion universal credits per Earth annum, varying 500 billion either way depending upon conditions.

Finally, since I am no longer interested in profits, the Lord of Creation is expected to be sold for 250 trillion universal credits, though the idea of an auction has been entertained.

We fully understand your request for security, and have dispatched a Vespir-class cruiser to rendezvous with whatever craft you have designated to deliver the plans. The rendezvous point will be 10 lightyears from our capitol planet of Haven.

As for the PoC vessel, we are willing to pay the 250 trillion, but over a period of time (perhaps decades). We might also like to make some substantial modifications to the craft, assuming we have your permission. These modifications can be detailed on request, if you would like.
Scellia
05-07-2005, 04:23
OOC: If you start an auction please TG me, I don't want to be left out.
Underwater Asylum
05-07-2005, 10:45
We will meet you upon the Eve of Sunsdeath, upon the world of Emperors. The great statue of Emperor Fanstarin shall be the place of our transaction.
Halberdgardia
06-07-2005, 01:20
OOC: A bump for CE.
Kanuckistan
06-07-2005, 02:24
OOC:
Sorry, I didn't mean to simplify, so much as say that your aproaches were fairly standard ones. The only thing I haven't seen befor is that you've given some idea as to getting energy out of the Casimir Effect; others have used this particular method of harnessing ZPE, but I've never seen them say how they could get energy out of it.
Halberdgardia
06-07-2005, 17:58
OOC: Another bump for CE.