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It has been announced today by Lord Dreadfire himself that, effective immediately, the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek will expand its territorial waters by an additional 20 nautical miles. Automagfreek will also expand its control into international waters by claiming several very small land masses located just outside of our waters. These small islands will be built up into forward defense positions, and should war be declared on Automagfreek these bases will help ensure that the fight is not taken to the AMF mainland.

Our total territorial claim is now roughly 75 nautical miles, and the reason for this expansion is as follows:

Automagfreek has completed construction on dozens of massive underground coastal artillery pieces, with barrels and projectiles (rocket assisted) so large that they can hurl a several thousand pound shell over 80 miles, further for rocket assisted projectiles.


Automagfreek has completed the second of three Sentinel class Super Dreadnoughts. The Sentinel and Reaver are now operating inside our waters, and at nearly 900 meters long, these ships will increase Automagfreeks defensive capabilities. Construction on the third and final Sentinel class ship, the Templar, will soon be underway.


Gholgoth's ranks have swelled, massing to 12 extremely large nations. As a regional military strongarm, Automagfreek has made a commitment to protecting its allies at all costs. Expanding our naval claims enables us a greater window to destroy inbound foes before they can attack Gholgoth land assets.

Lord Dreadfire will not comment on these claims unless necessary. Any and all questions will be answered by me. Thank you.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Your existence offends me. I declare war on you.

Only joking! Good luck with whatever it is your doing.

Hartman glanced over to his right, facing his cabinet. For a moment there was nothing but silence.

What kind of brain damaged leader would make such a stupid remark? "I declare war on you! Only joking!" Who the hell put that clown in charge of a nation?

Some of Hartman's staff began to chuckle, while others were still in an almost stunned state. The Minister sighed deeply and removed his hat, running the back of his hand across his forehead even though he wasn't sweating. What is this world coming to people? We have brain damaged leaders springing up left and right, day in and day out.

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I suggest you mind what it is you say to us, regardless if it is a 'joke' or not. No leader would make such a downright.....stupid remark such as that, not even a leader with a wicked case of Down Syndrome. This of course tells me that there must be something very wrong with you, and if you were elected to this position, then something must be VERY wrong with your people.

Who knows, perhaps this is the first nation on Earth to be comprised solely of retarded people.....

At any rate, mind your words, especially to one such as myself. It would be......unwise not to.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

"Taking the steps that are necessary to defend your nation against aggressive outsiders is a commendable and necessary move, vital to ensuring your security. Though, to be frank, even I have heard whisperings of your nation, and we have never been in contact before to my knowledge. And from what I hear, I strongly doubt that you will actually need to use these new measures. Your nation is an example of how a reputation can sometimes be more powerful than a weapon. But then, nobody ever got anywhere in this existence by being complacent.

Now if only we had the reputation or weapons necessary to make our nation as safe from outsider aggression as your own..."

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Bonfaaz Burntfur

"We find AMF's Foreign Minister to be offensive and rude towards the mentally handicapped. Instead of cruelly mocking them for a genetic defect they have no control over, you should be offering the poor souls treatment and medication."
---Official Statement From Holy Empire Of Armandian Cheese---

AMF News Update

***BREAKING NEWS***

We interrupt your semi-regularly scheduled program to bring you this breaking news bulletin.

Moments ago, AMF warships left their 55 nautical mile border and have begun moving into international waters, now claimed by Damien Dreadfire. The new enforcement zone will be anywhere between 75-80 nautical miles. We now go live to our man on the scene, Adrian Whiteside.

I'm standing on board the AMFS Invincible, one of AMF's largest aircraft carriers. Behind me you can see the massive convoy of warships, all moving towards the new naval boundaries that have been declared. Behind them are hundreds of supply ships, and immediately they will begin construction on Dreadfire's proposed 'foward naval posts'.

This project is being overseen by General Brinks, the oldest and wisest of Automagfreek's Warchiefs. This expansion comes at a time when Automagfreek is still at war with the Brittish Empire (Bob-Bob), and The Burnsian Desert. These simultanious wars are what have prompted Lord Dreadfire to take these new measures to ensure the safety of the AMF homeland.

This is great news for anyone living near the coast. All too often this reporter has seen entire communities destroyed along our beaches, and hopefully these new measures will prevent such a thing from happening again.

For AMF News, this is Adrian Whiteside.

We now return you to Ice picks and belt sanders: Instruments of torture.

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Hundreds of vessels under command of General Brinks began moving Automagfreek's naval perimeter outward. Any vessel that was found to be within the new boundary was first given warning to leave, and if they refused they were immediatly fired upon without descrimination.

But for the most part domestic vessels complied immediatly upon seeing the Cemetery Gate and other ships close in size. So far political opposition was slim to none, and if Lord Dreadfire played his cards right he could possibly get even more real estate out this maneuver.

But for now the ships continued on towards the 80 mile marker, and once there they would set up a large perimeter to the north and east. The west and south were protected by the main landmass of Gholgoth, which meant that AMF could better allocate resources to their new naval front.

This dose not affect us in anyway however we must stress that if your 'international waters' move into anothers nation and that natgion protests then we shall support that nation.

Emporer William.

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To: Minister Hartman
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs Reynaldo Salazar
Subject: Your comment

FYEO: For your eyes only

"Minister Hartman,

My government fully concurs with that of Armandian Cheese. Your derogatory comment about the mentally handicapped was unbefitting of a statesman. Your truculent stance toward Vespeterium Minor, merely for making a joke to lighten things up, is also duly noted. A man of your stature should conduct himself in a more statesmanlike, gentlemanly manner. You are as vulgar and crass as a drunk truck driver. Your behavior does not bode well for your government's image abroad."

End transmission.

To: Minister of Foreign Affairs Reynaldo Salazar
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs Hartman
Re: Your comment

In all honesty, I do not give a shit what you or anyone else thinks is 'conduct befitting a statesman. After years of dealing with mindless prats my patience for their supidity has reached an end. It is the official position of the Automagfreek government to not give a shit about what any person or nation thinks about it, so your 'comments' fall on deaf ears.

But perhaps you should step back and assess the situation. The dignitary from Vespeterium Minor (regardless of whatever 'joking manner') said the three words that no nation should ever utter to Automagfreek:

Declare, War, You.

War is a business to us, an efficient machine in which our society has flourished. We take war and death very seriously, and making jokes about declaring war on the modern world's most indomitable military empire is far from the wisest thing you can do.

I suggest you respectfully back off on this issue, it is not worth escalating.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

To: Minister of Foreign Affairs Reynaldo Salazar
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs Hartman
Re: Your comment

In all honesty, I do not give a shit what you or anyone else thinks is 'conduct befitting a statesman. After years of dealing with mindless prats my patience for their supidity has reached an end. It is the official position of the Automagfreek government to not give a shit about what any person or nation thinks about it, so your 'comments' fall on deaf ears.

But perhaps you should step back and assess the situation. The dignitary from Vespeterium Minor (regardless of whatever 'joking manner') said the three words that no nation should ever utter to Automagfreek:

Declare, War, You.

War is a business to us, an efficient machine in which our society has flourished. We take war and death very seriously, and making jokes about declaring war on the modern world's most indomitable military empire is far from the wisest thing you can do.

I suggest you respectfully back off on this issue, it is not worth escalating.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

To: Minister Hartman
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs Reynaldo Salazar

"I agree that this issue is not worth escalating. I must warn you, though, that in spite of your inconceivable power, your arrogance and callous disregard for the rest of the planet may one day be your nation's downfall."

In what most would deem an utterly futile gesture, (as Armandian Cheese has had little contact with AMF, much less trade) the nation of Armandian Cheese has decided to place economic sanctions upon Automagfreek. The Holy Cheesian Congress has passed the measure overwhelmingly, and the Holy Emperor has just signed it. When asked for an explanation, Holy Emperor Armand I answered,

"Their callous attitude towards the mentally handicapped cannot be tolerated. It is not their fault for being born with genetic defects, and to mock them for it is a reprehensible act. Ican only shudder at the thought of what facilities exist for the mentally handicapped in Automagfreek. Perhaps they just shoot them outright? I demand a full international inspection of treatment for the mentally ill in AMF! My brother Billy was born retarded, and mistreated his entire life for it. I will not allow other Billys to suffer his fate. "

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

Your threat to use economic sanctions against Automagfreek is futile. We have absolutly no economic ties to your nation, and only your country can suffer as a result of this. Automagfreek's economy is a solid as steel, and I herby declare it illegal for any AMF product to be expidited to Armandian Cheese.

As far as the...mentally challenged go, it is no business of yours what we do with them. I find it near hilarious how strongly you have reacted to the good Minister's comments. Never once have I seen economic sanctions put in place because of a casual insult until today. It boggles my mind how quickly some of you are to jump the gun. What next, are you going to be shipping soldiers off to die on my shores?

And as far as 'inspecting facilities for the mentally ill' in Automagfreek go: absolutly not. I suggest you drop this matter and move on with your life. It is very unwise to get on my bad side.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

OOC: You can't be serious AC.....

Expansion, Retraction, Imperialism, and AMF king of 1 and 3 continue as you wish but don't mess with too many nations at once.

Official Statement from The Imperial Union
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To the International Community,

Oh geez. You know I can't even enjoy my trip to Rome peacefully. Here I am trying to attend a Papal Conference on Elves and this is what I get. Lord Damien Dreadfire expands his territorial waters and calls somebody a retard and all of a sudden it's a case for war!

Oh so what, you have thicker skin then that. Heck I'm typing this in my laptop, bah. You're wasting my times. But now to the point, I support the Excessively Armed Empire, blah blah blah, I will destroy all who oppose the Imperial Union, blah blah blah, your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries, blah, blah, blah. Blah. Blah.

Oh wait, now I have to go. The Swiss Guard are looking for me, apparently parachuting into St. Peter's Square is illegal. Bye!

Running away from the Swiss,
Sergei Ilyanov
Grand Chancellor of The Imperial Union
Viceroy of The Island of Rose ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Byeltsin.jpg)

P.S. You're retarded because you're threatening other people over retards, you retard!

Public Statement by the United States of Independent Hitmen, forwarded to the AMF ambassador to the USIH

The United States of Independent Hitmen finds this action by the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek to be mere posturing and seeking an similarly stupid statement from other nations that wish to follow in the proposturus pursuit of enlarging their own territory by futile acts such as increasing their territorial waters.

Therefore in response to this the United States will not be recognising this extra territory at the present time, and President Anderson will be urging his allies to follow suit. We feel that by doing this AMF is posing a direct threat to world stability by inviting other nations to expand their own borders at will and then back these up with military force wWe are so convientiently reminded of this force in all three apparent "reasons" for the expansion of AMF territorial waters, all three of which the USIH finds completely unacceptable as justification for such an expansion.

All USIH registered vessels have been instructed to remain on any pre-determined course, and whilst there is no IH naval presence in the area at the current time any future deployment will be remaining with respecting the previous 55 mile zone unless reasons deemed to be satisfactory are produced by the AMF ruling elite.


-President Anderson.

OOC: Lmao. Great post, TIOR.

IC:

Due to the present and mounting turmoil in the Imperial Parliament of the Grand Imperium of Risban, no one from the said nation was reached to make a comment on AMF's territorial expansion, though it is rumored that Foreign Minister Alexander Perkins muttered "Good for them" while going to a Security Council meeting.

In repsonse to the comments made by Independent Hitmen, Minister Hartman replied with the following statement.

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The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek is not 'asking' others to stay out of our new territorial claims....we are telling.

I do not know where the slippery slope notion that 'because we expanded our waters others will follow suit' came from, but that is more or less paranoid speculation.

It is Lord Dreadfire's position that any unwanted merchant ships entering our waters will be turned back, and any war vessels that refuse to turn back will be fired upon. Simple and easy rule for everyone to follow. The oceans of the world are vast and plentiful, and there is nothing wrong with us extending our boundaries, nor is there any sort of international law agaisnt it.

Automagfreek will enforce its 75-80 mile boundary with lethal force if need be. Consider this a fair warning to all, and those who do not heed this warning will get what they have coming to them should they choose to test us.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Press Room of the New White House, President Anderson is midway through his conference


"Mr President, what is your personal opinion on the statement issued by AMF Minister of Foreign Affairs Hartman concerning IH condemnation of their increase in territorial waters."


"Well Jane, as you know the USIH does not stand by and watch nations bully others into accepting their demands. Whilst this expansion does not inpact any nations that are deemed friendly or allied to the USIH, we fear that it may set a precedent for future expansion by the Excessively Armed Empire or any number of its compatriots. As for Minister Hartman's comments, we can see that this reflects the arrogance of the AMF leadership and their false sense of superiority over everybody else in the world. As I stated earlier, we will be respecting the 50nm boundary previously in place."

LNS News caught up with Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sir Alec Connover, and asked him about the recent 'expansion' of the Excessively Armed Empire's maritime terrotory.

" Eighty miles? That sounds reasonable to me. The Free Republic claims one hundred miles from it's shores as sovereign military territory and as they say 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander' , or something close anyhow."

Sir Alec was then reported to have returned to his round of golf.

LNS, Lassic, Ilek-Vaad

Official Statement from the Benevolent Dictatorship of Iuthia

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After reading the into the specific details of the expansion taken by Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek as to how it would affect the International Comminity and our own shipping in the area, we have come to the conclusion that such a small expansion should not physically affect other nations territories nor their shipping lanes... unless their standard commercial shipping practices are to hug Automagfreek territorial waters in such a dangerous manner. As such we acknowledge this expansion and will keep note of the change, respecting the new waters appropriately.

Quite frankly we are not entirely surprised that other nations are giving such knee jerk reactions to this minor issue... such expansions have happened before without incident, though they were not so advertised as that of Lord Dreadfire's expansion. Still, it surprises us that nations such as Independent Hitmen, whom we have respected for their previous diplomat efforts, would react in such a way. This is hardly a precedent in our history and the expansion doesn't really affect any nations territorial claims or trade routes... a twenty nuatical mile increase is barely anything in this huge world. Had this affected any nation directly we would have opposed the increase, however it's clearly a security measure which Automagfreek is fully within their right to do.

Lets face it people, there are no laws in the world expressing how much water you can claim or should reckognise around a nation. Lord Dreadfire can claim as much water as he wants and we can choose to respect it as we wish... if it doesn't affect anybody then there is little point in threatening costly action to stop it, especially when we know that the Empire is a nation of it's word. It's all very well saying you will not respect this change... but the line has been drawn and the warning has been given, in our view this line is reasonable and any nation which chooses not to acknowledge the new territory is being unreasonable, should they choose to deploy ships to these waters to further defy the territorial claims, then they themselves are the ones who are making the aggressive moves.

Reguardless, we imagine others will not drop this minor issue... and for that we pity you. To waste so much effort on something which is a non-issue is foolish and dangerous, I would advise that even if nations do no reckognise this territory, then they should at least heed Automagfreeks warning as the Excessively Armed Empire does not make bluffs...

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

Whoot?

Official Camel Eaters Response.

AMF Militarism Fuels Arda Opposition
WN3: Wye City
An expansion of Automagfreek's territorial boundaries by thirty-seven kilometers has been quickly integrated into the Weyr as an Independent Nation's platform, drawing further support from the Middle Center Party's ranks. Several notable MCP leaders, including Lord Ileni Kaider, have spoken against their party's indecisiveness regarding the matter.....

.....In the meanwhile, military analysts have dismissed the announcement as "insignificant."

"The Doujin's main batteries can reach up to three hundred kilometers. A good pair of missiles can go twice around the world. A satellite doesn't even need to pass over Freek territory to hit it if proper guidance and approach angles are used. An additional thirty-seven kilometers of space isn't going to do anything except draw attention to Freek insecurity," Lieutenant Mariah Briggs wrote in the Self-Defense Force's daily brief earlier this week. "They are fighting two nations, and come under almost daily pressure from lesser states. Compared to the three-hundred-kilometer claims that have recently peppered non-baseline fractal realities, the Freeks are being quite restrained. They have the resources to enforce a much greater territorial sphere, but they have chosen to claim only a small section of that."

With the Self-Defense Force already maintaining a five hundred kilometer advisory zone around Automagfreek due to the numerous conflicts that have taken place in the region, the shipping industry will most probably not be affected by the change in territorial boundaries. "Automagfreek is not in the habit of attacking neutral shipping," Minister of Commerce Brian Ger told WN3. "Normal regulations require ships to stay two hundred kilometers away from any coastline regardless of territorial claims anyway, so this shouldn't cause any problems."

To: [OPEN]
From: Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary
Subject: Territorial Waters.

Whilst the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia, having few if any ties to Automagfreek, has little interest in the individual nations concerned, supports the principle that nations be allowed to claim as much in the way of territorial waters as they want so long as doing so does not interefere with legitimate shipping and re-established shipping lanes, which this does not appear to. We ourselves claim a territorial boundary of 200km, and yet this is never mentioned simply because it was not announced and a fuss was not made.

This, and the situation in Feline Catfish, seems synonymous with the current world stance on most events - making a massive fuss out of nothing. Since Automagfreek has stated that this will not affect neutral shipping, and none of the nations which have complained are in the same region and hence may have a legitimate qualm with the expansion, it is bizarre to see such opposition to this move.

We are not in the habit of 'advising' sovereign nations to do anything other than that which they want to do, but we would not look kindly upon any international move to restrict the growth of territorial waters beyond 12 / 20nm in any specific case, as it would have obvious reprocussions for our own nation, and also most if not all of the other Haven states, most of whom also claim the maximum 200km allowed under the Maritime Treaty of Gërburg.

Yours Sincerely,

Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary

Vox Populi, Vox Dei

Amazing. Simply amazing.

All this hand-wringing over claiming 75 nautical miles worth of territorial waters. The Federation has claimed 200 nautical miles of territorial waters for generations. This strikes us as a bunch of third world countries trying to make a name for themselves by "standing up to" a major power. Pathetic, sad, and ultimately pointless.

Almost enough to make one long for the hordes of people beating up on minorities for their attention whore needs.

- Elisa Day, Speaker for the Oligarchy
The Semi-Autonomous Technocratic Oligarchy of the Most Glorious Hack

Open Statement to all


The United States is not protesting so much as about the 20 mile increase in the AMF territorial waters, such a figure is as many point out rather small, yet we are more concerned with the way that this conveyed to the world. The nation of AMF used what can only be described as military threats in order to inform the world of their new territory, military threats that were in our eyes completely unnecessary and merely show the arrogance and bullyish nature that appears to fill many nations in the world at the current time.

This increase has no effect on our shipping, the IH trades remarkably little, and in some cases nothing, with AMF however our shipping may be warned to steer courses as far away from the unpleasant country as is economically possible.

We are surprised that so many other nations seem to just accept this way of acquiring new waters, perhaps they have friendly agreements with AMF which the USIH does not, and has no intention of seeking. We shall further more let the matter rest, as we see no point in pursuing this any further as the weak-willed world appears to be more than happy to allow a large nation to do as they wish, which is hardly a surprise to us. While we are not accusing anybody of being an AMF cronie, we feel that there is a tendency for the world as a whole to allow the larger nations to do as they wish.

As for the statement by Iuthia, a twenty mile increase in AMF territorial waters barely increases the security of their nation. A submarine launched missile could easily hit their coast, or a number of major cities, if fired from outside this exclusion zone and so this security advantage is more theoretical than actual. However we also question your comment on our diplomatic ways, we have not threatened the nation of AutomagFreek, nor any other, with our response, and we have merely shown our doubts and views on this expansion.

Official Statement from the President of the United States of Credonia

Credonia fully supports this move by AMF and will continue to support it on the basis that AMF has expanded into territorial waters and only by a small amount (the stated 20 nm), which would hurt no one. We are, however, concerned by the manner in which AMF is slowly but surely turning this event into a precident for war against nations who voice opposition to such a move that really requires no type of action, military, economic, political, or otherwise. In addition, we are disturbed by the face that, given AMF's history, this could merely be a plan to expand its territorial waters by declaring war upon any small nation that doesnt stand a chance against AMF forces, using the 20 nm territorial expansion only as a front, diversion, and fuel to spark an international incident.

Up to this point, the expansion is justifiable and has not infringed upon the national soverengty of any nation, however, should you use this incident as a precedent and excuse for declaring war on a smaller nation to use it to expand your borders even further, Credonia will have no choice but to support the opposing nation(s) and provide whatever type of assistance is necessary to ensure their well being and their right to exist without the infringement upon their rights by your nation. Be forewarned, Credonia will not hesistate to act if needs be.


Signed,

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia

As for the statement by Iuthia, a twenty mile increase in AMF territorial waters barely increases the security of their nation. A submarine launched missile could easily hit their coast, or a number of major cities, if fired from outside this exclusion zone and so this security advantage is more theoretical than actual. However we also question your comment on our diplomatic ways, we have not threatened the nation of AutomagFreek, nor any other, with our response, and we have merely shown our doubts and views on this expansion.

Our responce is simple: reguardless of how effective the security measure is, it's their choice to defend their nation as they see fit. We understand their reasons for doing it, even if we do not agree with their methods or how they advertise the fact. Ulimately we cannot understand your problems with this expansion, as you original comment was quite alarmist, as is this responce to our criticism.

You say you don't have a problem with the expansion itself, regardless of your previous comments which argue that it sets a "precedent for future expansion", your nation has already made statements on how you don't recognise their claim which in our mind is more then just mearly showing your doubts and views... but perhaps we are reading too much into such comments, afterall we doubt your people are about to enter such waters anyways, that would be asking for trouble. Perhaps our mistake was to read your comments in the same light as those who would threaten war over such a non-issue and for that I apologise.

Regardless, Iuthia has respected such expansions in the past from many other nations, many of whom are much smaller then Automagfreek and even directly opposed to Automagfreek in their own ways... No, we aren't supporting Automagfreek because it's Automagfreek, we're supporting them because we hate seeing nations making a incident over something so minor, this isn't worth threatening war over. Sure, Lord Dreadfire isn't a polite man... but then again the International Community is full of jerks.

Bottom line is; it's their choice to use their assets like that and we don't have a problem with it. There is no point in causing a fuss over this, even political pressure seems pointless when we concider that this is done, we have no leverage over them aside from the threat of economic/military action, both of which would be a waste of our resourses and a gross over reaction. More importantly, we don't have the reason to stop this... it doesn't affect us, nor does it affect any other innocent nation, it's entirely about them and we have no reason to interfere.

We are happy to see that most nations here understand this simply reality,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

Official Statement from the President of the United States of Credonia

In addition, we are disturbed by the face that, given AMF's history, this could merely be a plan to expand its territorial waters by declaring war upon any small nation that doesnt stand a chance against AMF forces, using the 20 nm territorial expansion only as a front, diversion, and fuel to spark an international incident.

While I wouldn't be surprised by this, or even amused by it, I would not lift a finger for another nation which could not measure it's own strength before starting a war with a much larger nation over such an incident not involving them.

Lets face it, as representatives of our nations it is upon us to properly express our nations will as well as to watch our words. Something such as a declaration of war isn't something one should do lightly... it's a commitment which will undoubtably cost resources and more importantly, countless lives. If a nation is so eager to start a war over something so petty then the blame should be on their own heads.

We wouldn't be pleased should a nation commit itself to war against Automagfreek only to be raped for it's stupidity, we would hope that large nations such as Automagfreek could properly deal with such Tinpot Leaders without mass genocide... however it would be pointless to defend such nations from the retribution resulting from their foolish actions. At the most they could expect pressure from the Benovolent Dictatorship to assure that such a nations people don't have to suffer for their leaders terrible choice... but those leaders would deserve everything that came to them.

As nations, we should be able to properly judge which causes are worth the cost... this is not one of them. I would hope nations are smart enough to understand the sheer gravity of their actions.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

Credonia agrees with your statement and shares the same views and beliefs as your nation, however, Credonia is also a nation of just principle and acts in accordance with those principles. While some nations may rush into a war against AMF to the detrament of their own people because of their sheer stupidity, Credonia does not believe that they should or would have to "deserve everything that came to them", as you so eloquently put it. Just because AMF rapes the people of a nation and commits hayness and cruel acts upon nations that oppose them does not make it right, and for the international community to sit back and do absolutly nothing is just like saying "Sure! Go right ahead! You can do it and we dont care!" While AMF may be "big and scarey", this does not mean that this nation can maul other nations to the ground and bully them. AMF is not invincible. We only allow ourselves to think so, which is our downfall. We must be watchful for the actions of AMF because we are all aware of this dangerous nation's military and political history. Should this nation overstep its boundaries, it is the duty and responsibility of the international community to see to it that it is brought to justice in any and all ways possible. Should AMF overstep its legal boundaries, we must bring him down and use it as an example to the rest of the world that we will not tolerate such behavior from any nation and that all nations no matter how big, bad, strong., or weak they are will be dealt with swiftly.

Lauren R. Smith, Secretary of State, United States of Credonia

"It seems somewhat hypocritical to me to hear people complaining of this perfectly reasonable move by AMF's leadership. Would you, as national leaders, not take whatever steps deemed necessary to protect their own people? That is what one of your primary functions as a government, is it not? To protect their people?

Therefore, when taking steps which you think are necessary to the protection of your people, would you not be taken aback by foreign leaders making political attacks against your perfectly reasonable security measures? After all, these measures harm no-one, and outsiders cannot possibly claim to have a better grasp of the security concerns of your lands than you can.

Certainly, AMF has not been entirely diplomatic on this issue. But then, after doing some research, I have found that AMF's leader is rarely diplomatic about anything. And good for them, I say. Politics, spin, two-faced acts and the like are pointless wastes of time which serve no other purpose than sugar-coating the truth. If you need the truth to be 'sugar-coated', then perhaps you should consider alternative professions.

In conclusion I suggest people leave this matter to rest without causing incident. It harms no-one, and you would probably do the same thing if you thought it was necessary to the protection of your people. Indeed, the only way these measures could harm anybody is if you were to press the matter too far, or as some have done, disregard AMF's declaration entirely and put non-neutral ships within the 75nm limit. As there is no rational reason to oppose this, other than to attempt to score 'bravery points' by simply opposing anything put forward by AMF, this seems to me to be an unnecessary risk. And if you are opposing this simply because AMF was 'mean about it', then surely, I will have the greatest laugh since I was a child. So just let it go."

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Bonfaaz Burntfur

Official Statement from the Benevolent Dictatorship of Iuthia

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We are concidering withdrawing our last statement as it was clearly completely lost on the Credonian Secretary of State, whom it would seem doesn't read the entirity of any reply but instead just reads what they want before continuing to spew their anti-Automagfreek rhetoric.

Did we not say that we would be against such a raping of a nation? Apparently not it would seem... clearly our time is wasted on people such as yourselves if you cannot even understand the very basic ideas behind our comments, regardless of how simple we make them.

Perhaps I should hilight our views again so that they can be easily understood be the Credonian leadership: "At the most they could expect pressure from the Benovolent Dictatorship to assure that such a nations people don't have to suffer for their leaders terrible choice... but those leaders would deserve everything that came to them."

The Credonian statements seem to be suggesting that Iuthia is a nation without principals... almost an insult to us in many respects especially concidering that Iuthia works for peace and has done so quite some time now. We ourselves have criticised Automagfreek in the past and even here we have explained our reasoning quite well I would think. We are defending Automagfreek in this issue because there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to expand in this manner... the reasons you have given in opposition to this expansion seem to suggest that it's Automagfreek's fault that stupid leaders may want to declare war over this non-issue, frankly we're not going to defend stupidity, we'll try and save lives by pointing out the stupidity of such actions, we'll try to help their people once such stupid declarations have been made.

Meanwhile it would seem that Credonia is of the opinion that the International Community has some kind of common law, despite the fact that many other nations in the world commit attrocities every day within their nations, despite the fact that in regions such as Haven imperialism through invasion is still common and how ultimately the only laws which seem to exist are those which nations enforce on others which are often done at convenience and not a constant... and you talk of justice? Hell, the entire idea of 'International Law' is just abused these days as a pretext for war, it's never been applied fairly and it never can be as there are few nations who will submit to such limitations and even fewer who could be trusted to enforce it. So all that is left is diplomacy with the backing of leverage, be it military, political or economic.

But no, we had probably better take the advise of the gnoll... this issue isn't worth such a fuss. It's a joke that we continue on over such a small incident.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

Retort to the Statement Made By the Benevolent Dictatorship of Iuthia

It is quite sad how you would take the message that was released by us as a direct insult to your nation, and it is quite selfish to think that the entirety was even directed to your nation. The message was merely a statement made to the international community as a whole on Credonia's belief. It is not Anti-AMF rhetoric as it was stated, quite clearly, that Credonia supports the territorial expansion and will continue to support it so long as AMF does not overstep its boundaries. Also for the record, Credonia quite clearly understood your views to begin with. I decided not to comment on them as I said in the first couple sentences of my statement that my nation "agrees with your statement and shares the same views and beliefs as your nation". Also, I did not say that Iuthia was a nation without principles, I merely stated that Credonia is a nation of principle that acts upon its principles in an open manner, like we are doing now.

With that being said, I see no need to argue over points made over Credonia's views regarding such things. Credonia's declaration still stands and we will continue to support AMF until that nation gives reason to, otherwise.

Signed,

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
Department of State
United States of Credonia

Credonia agrees with your statement and shares the same views and beliefs as your nation, however, Credonia is also a nation of just principle and acts in accordance with those principles.

Credonia does not believe that they should or would have to "deserve everything that came to them", as you so eloquently put it.Odd, it reads like a direct reply to us, seeing as it directly responds to our original points, even going so far as to quote us throughout. Yet at the same time it oddly ignores our own arguement and views because you say you argeed with us while arguing with us anyways...

Sorry if there has been a misunderstanding, perhaps next time you should be a little more clear about who you are addressing... then we won't read it as though it's directed at us. Meanwhile, don't imply that AMF makes a habit of raping other nations people... it hardly reads as 'support' thats for sure, it reads like something I would expect from the RWC and if you are going to criticise their history, do so respectfully... we know they aren't nice but they aren't that bad.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

Your threat to use economic sanctions against Automagfreek is futile. We have absolutly no economic ties to your nation, and only your country can suffer as a result of this. Automagfreek's economy is a solid as steel, and I herby declare it illegal for any AMF product to be expidited to Armandian Cheese.

As far as the...mentally challenged go, it is no business of yours what we do with them. I find it near hilarious how strongly you have reacted to the good Minister's comments. Never once have I seen economic sanctions put in place because of a casual insult until today. It boggles my mind how quickly some of you are to jump the gun. What next, are you going to be shipping soldiers off to die on my shores?

And as far as 'inspecting facilities for the mentally ill' in Automagfreek go: absolutly not. I suggest you drop this matter and move on with your life. It is very unwise to get on my bad side.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

OOC: You can't be serious AC.....

While a public statement continues to condemn AMF's "horrific treatment of the mentally retarded", a secret communique to the Foreign Ministry from Holy Emperor Armand I reveals something else...

"First of all, we know that our economic sanctions are pointless, as we have no economic ties at all. But acting angry and 'standing up to imperialist oppressors who do not value human rights' placates the leftist elements in our nation, and gets me a few extra votes. So we shall continue to issue useless protests."

From The Office of The President of The Republic
We found this event to be a strange one. AMF has decided to expand and we see no reason to object to AMF. We do found this to be a little problem but we don't care because we ain't near him so it doesn't affect us. We to object to AMF's using of this water for military reasons, which we don't like. This has been a message from me, President John Calvin Handstand Sr. of the Federal Republic of Brydog.

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Automagfreek praises Iuthia for its support in this matter. However, we remain suspicious of Credonia. They have stated that they support our expansion, but some of their words read harsh. We thank our Iuthian brothers for sorting out this manner, as they tend to be diplomatic then we are.

I am happy to report that so far the expansion has gone off without a hitch. We have not had any ship of any kind violate our new waters, nor have we affected any current trade route. Our national news agency has a close eye on the situation, and will most likely be the first to report any incursion or run-in.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

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Official reaction from Paul Kruger, President of the Republic of Guffingford

'We laugh at Automagfreek, it's attention craving autistic leadership and it's laughable "Look at me" kind of international policies. I will probably be called a circlejerk, a hilarious insult from some kind of self-proclaimed military hardass and strategist who earned his medals and respect (only from the people in Automagfreek mind you) by playing too much "Slay" on his home computer. We have spent too much time already on this message, so in conclusion: we are better than you, although you won't admit it.'

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Official reaction from Paul Kruger, President of the Republic of Guffingford

'We laugh at Automagfreek, it's attention craving autistic leadership and it's laughable "Look at me" kind of international policies. I will probably be called a circlejerk, a hilarious insult from some kind of self-proclaimed military hardass and strategist who earned his medals and respect (only from the people in Automagfreek mind you) by playing too much "Slay" on his home computer. We have spent too much time already on this message, so in conclusion: we are better than you, although you won't admit it.'

Automagfreek once again openly laughs at the entire nation of Guffingford. Their continued quest to shout 'we don't care, we're better than you!' in our faces once again only confirms our suspicions that their leadership as a whole is entirely jealous of our nation.

Guffingford claims that 'we' are seeking attention, yet after everything we do and every statement that we make, they show up and pout like a child after being told that he can't have candy from the supermarket.

If they are truely better than us, they wouldn't feel the need to constantly 'remind' us of it. But perhaps in their dillusional world if they say it enough, it might actually happen.

HA!

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

We are worry over this policy of increasing your borders. This is a problem because we don't if we can still sail our merchant ships through the new borders.

Secretary of State Alexander Romanov
Secretary of Transportation Robert Portson

"It seems Automagfreek is expanding its territory a few more nautical miles," Emperor Bivens chuckled over his glass of brandy and ice. Dr. Julian Rane, Director of Intelligence, shared his smile.

"We claim a new solar system and it doesn't even make the news," Rane laughed. "But there on Earth, people are whining about Mr. Dreadfire claiming some more...water..."

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Emperor Dave Bivens
Emperor of the Orion Sector
President/CEO of Bivens Co.

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Dr. Julian Rane
Imperial Director of Intelligence

Congratulations AMF, you now have a bigger bath tub in which to play war with your ships.

Wow, AMF, I must say bwhere terrified, yep, really really scared, shitting ourselves. Not only do you now have a bit more water but you also have space for a few more ships.

I must concratualate you for taking a few miles of water from no-one, a huge victory, crushing, and you've taken no casultys. Wow, that really impressive. You know what, I'm going to go and expand my terratorial waters as well, but I'm going to do it with 1 wooden battleship.

I'm sure the sea will give me a hard fight.

Emproer William