NationStates Jolt Archive

{OOC: I think we have enough participants now, so please don't apply. I don't want too many people, lest the thread gets cluttered.}




{OOC2: This thread takes place in TLE [The Latest Earth], although you can join even if you're not part of TLE.}


Some may recall the proposed Quebec RP a little while back. Alas, it never materialized. But no matter. Instead of a Quebec RP, I'm going to do an Angolan one. It'll be basically the same premise, though. There will be four groups:

1.UNITA (originally Maoist, now anti-communist)
2.FNLA (capitalist, anti-communist)
3.MPLA (communist)
4.FLEC (no clear political ideology; no interest in Angola as a whole, just the province of Cabinda)

UNITA, FNLA, and MPLA are all fighting El Caudillo and each other for Angola's independence. FLEC is fighting for Cabinda's independence (Cabinda is a province of Angola that's separated from the other provinces by the Democratic Republic of the Congo), so FLEC is viewed as an enemy by both the first three groups as well as El Caudillo.

1.UNITA [supported by The Real ALM]
2.FNLA [supported by Jensai and Halberdgardia]
3.MPLA [role-played by Kordo]
4.FLEC [supported by Van Luxemburg and West Tennessee]

Also participating:

Valoro (supporting El Caudillo)

Anyone?

I replied via TG, so you know I'm in.

I replied via TG, so you know I'm in.

Excellent! Thanks.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/Roach-Busters/Angola_RP_map.gif

(NOTE: There are large numbers of El Caudillan soldiers in all of the western-most provinces, so these areas are hotly contested and in danger of falling into El Caudillan hands.)

Jensai will throw it's support behind the FNLA.

Jensai will throw it's support behind the FNLA.

Cool, thanks.

And if possible, I'd like people to RP as the rebels. I can't RP them all myself.

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No one? :(

the FLEC will be supported by Van Luxemburg, by economic means and by Spec-ops, weaponry will also be arranged. (Sorry but I can't RP the FLEC myself, I'm too busy for that.)

the FLEC will be supported by Van Luxemburg, by economic means and by Spec-ops, weaponry will also be arranged. (Sorry but I can't RP the FLEC myself, I'm too busy for that.)

Thanks a lot!

no prob. :D

El Caudillo, could you elaborate on your rebel groups ideologies.

Which Rebel group supports a dictatorial type of government, as my nation NEVER supports Marxists/Leftists or democratic systems.

If none of these rebels fit this catagory, then Ill support El Caudillo

El Caudillo, could you elaborate on your rebel groups ideologies.

Which Rebel group supports a dictatorial type of government, as my nation NEVER supports Marxists/Leftists or democratic systems.

If none of these rebels fit this catagory, then Ill support El Caudillo

UNITA- originally Maoist, favoring a "radical left-wing socialist" but anticommunist government, now more pro-Western and capitalist; their constantly chaning ideology makes its difficult to tell how they will run the country

MPLA- want to establish a one-party totalitarian Marxist dictatorship

FNLA- want to establish a multiparty, capitalist, democratic government

FLEC- there is division among FLEC; some want Marxism, others democratic socialism, others capitalism. All are united in their desire for Cabindan independence

Can two countries support one faction? I only have a small number of troops to send so I wouldn’t play a big part anyway. Id support the FLEC.

Then put Valoro on the side of El Caudillo.

Ill support your nation to crush these rebels.

If you're allowing two countries to support the same faction, sign Halberdgardia up for the FNLA.

I'll roleplay one of the rebel groups if you want El Caudillo.

Sure, more than one nation can aid a group.

Kordo, could you please RP the MPLA? Thanks!

All applications have been accepted. Thanks, everyone! :D

Im being threatend with invasion.

Im pulling out!!!!!

OOC: I don't know if your accepting people. I was AFK for the time when you were accepting people.

I'm not really sure if i want to RP as one of the factions, or as my nation helping a faction yet. I'm also not on the internet much due to my schedual around here. It's mostly Monday through Thrusday that i am on.

OOC: I don't know if your accepting people. I was AFK for the time when you were accepting people.

I'm not really sure if i want to RP as one of the factions, or as my nation helping a faction yet. I'm also not on the internet much due to my schedual around here. It's mostly Monday through Thrusday that i am on.

{OOC: Since I TG'd you before I said no more applicants would be accepted, you can join if you'd like. You don't have to, though.}

OOC:
Alright then. I'll play as my national pickings for TLE. It's slightly landlocked so i'll have to fly everything to the war zone.


Claims are: States of Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and South Dakota on The Latest Earth

Just an fyi on my military composition.

Main Rifle; Beryl wz.96 (chambered in .7.62x51 NATO)
LMG/HMG; MG-3
Side Arm; Cz-52
Inf-AT; SMAW rocket system, 106mm RR, LAW rocket system
Inf-Arty Support; Brixia 45mm rapidfire Mortar (Italy) and M29 81mm Mortar (US),
Inf-AA Redeye shoulder launched SAMs

Ontos light anti tank vehicle, EE-9 Cascavel recon vehicle, TAM tank, G6 Mobile 105mm Cannon, VCTP APC. Though the VCTP is modular I only equip the APC version atm.

1 OH Perry class FFG and 2 Gephard class PCFG.

There is more but thats all that can be involved in the Angola fighting.

OOC:
Alright then. I'll play as my national pickings for TLE. It's slightly landlocked so i'll have to fly everything to the war zone.


Claims are: States of Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and South Dakota on The Latest Earth

{OOC: Whose side will you be on?}

Saw the first few posts on the IC thread; I'll post something as soon as I make up my mind as to what kind of support I'm going to be giving, whether it's covert assistance in the form of SOF and HCIA agents to act as trainers for the rebels, and weapons and money (which I'm leaning towards) or an overt reinforcement with Halberdgardian troops.

Saw the first few posts on the IC thread; I'll post something as soon as I make up my mind as to what kind of support I'm going to be giving, whether it's covert assistance in the form of SOF and HCIA agents to act as trainers for the rebels, and weapons and money (which I'm leaning towards) or an overt reinforcement with Halberdgardian troops.

Cool, thanks.

Regarding my current deployment to Angola in support of the rebels:

One Special Forces B-Detachment: three A-Detachments of twelve men each, led by a Major, two other officers, and nine NCOs (total of 45 men); primary mission is to train rebels in use of weapons that we will be buying them and in guerrilla warfare

Twelve HCIA agents for training the rebels in guerrilla warfare and for executing a variety covert actions against El Caudillian forces

Special Forces Weapons Loadout
Silenced FN SCAR (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm)
H&K Mk23 OHWS (http://www.streetpro.com/usp/hksocom.html)
Various grenades (flashbangs, fragmentation, smoke, thermite)

HCIA Agent Weapons Loadout
Silenced MP5F (http://www.hkpro.com/mp5.htm)
Sig-Sauer P229 pistol (http://remtek.com/arms/sig/model/229/229.htm)
Flashbang, smoke grenades

T A G

EC, I assume you will be RPing (to a degree) all the rebel groups except for the MPLA?

EDIT: Jensai, are you landing your forces in Zaire or in Luanda Norte?

I know this RP is now closed, but I was wondering if I could somehow get involved, as I'm looking to expand on RP's in Earth TLE. Do you have any ideas how I could participate?

Or could this thing lead to the Earth TLE World War we were talking about? I think it'd be quite interesting to see a Science Nation (me) support a Fundy / Religious Nation (You, El Caudillo).

Imagine two nations at exact opposites supporting / helping each other. The Light helping the Dark, Up supporing Down, Left being friends with Right, etc. :p

I know this RP is now closed, but I was wondering if I could somehow get involved, as I'm looking to expand on RP's in Earth TLE. Do you have any ideas how I could participate?

Or could this thing lead to the Earth TLE World War we were talking about? I think it'd be quite interesting to see a Science Nation (me) support a Fundy / Religious Nation (You, El Caudillo).

Imagine two nations at exact opposites supporting / helping each other. The Light helping the Dark, Up supporing Down, Left being friends with Right, etc. :p

Yes, please do get involved. I can't RP all the rebel groups by myself.

Yes, please do get involved. I can't RP all the rebel groups by myself.

Thanks!

I was thinking hyow I can get involved...

First, several Sharinan citizens were doing either research or international student exchange thing in Angola. Then some kind of anti-Caudillo terrorist cell attacks the Sharinan citizens by mistake. The Sharinans die, angering Sharina a lot. Afterwards, Sharina pledges support to El Caudillo, who opposes the terrorists.

Would that plot-line work to get me involved?

Thanks!

I was thinking hyow I can get involved...

First, several Sharinan citizens were doing either research or international student exchange thing in Angola. Then some kind of anti-Caudillo terrorist cell attacks the Sharinan citizens by mistake. The Sharinans die, angering Sharina a lot. Afterwards, Sharina pledges support to El Caudillo, who opposes the terrorists.

Would that plot-line work to get me involved?

I think he wants you do help RP as a rebel group. If EC would get to the Cold War thread, I could join this thread.

Sharina, if you help a rebel group, Jensai and I would love it if you came to help the FNLA. *hint* :D

If you help a rebel group, Jensai and I would love it if you came to help the FNLA. *hint* :D

El Caudillo is who I will be helping.

El Caudillo is who I will be helping.

Oops. That was meant for Sharina. Sorry if that was unclear.

Oops. That was meant for Sharina. Sorry if that was unclear.

I know it was for Sharina. I just wanted to tell everybody who I'm helping.

To give you guys some info about my nation and its ideologies...

1. Sharina believes in science and logic. Religion is virtually non-existent as people in Sharina look upon religions with scorn. This is partly because of the atrocities committed in the name of religion such as the Spanish invasion of the Aztecs and attempts to forcefully convert Aztecs and Incas to Christianity. Another reason is that the Sharina people prefer to see concrete things, and believes that EVERYTHING happens for a REASON, not some kind of mysterious deity directing everyone to do everything.

2. Sharina focuses on Industry, Efficiency, and Productivity. These things generate progress, which is very dear to Sharina. They believe that without progress, there can be no civilization or evolution of anything. Ideas cannot develop, living standards cannot improve, etc. without progress. The national motto of Sharina is "Progress Above All."

3. Sharina isn't a Communist, Capitalist, Democracy, or Dictatorship type of government or society. Sharina is essentially run by scientists, technicians, doctors, etc. In other words, Sharina is run by specialists, rather than politicans, religious leaders, or power-hungy groups of men like 99% of the other nations in RL and NS.



So with all these factors, I honestly am not sure which faction to prop up if not El Caudillo. Sharina doesn't care about supporting or "aganist" communist, capitalist, democracies, etc.

To give you guys some info about my nation and its ideologies...

2. Sharina focuses on Industry, Efficiency, and Productivity. These things generate progress, which is very dear to Sharina. They believe that without progress, there can be no civilization or evolution of anything. Ideas cannot develop, living standards cannot improve, etc. without progress. The national motto of Sharina is "Progress Above All."

So with all these factors, I honestly am not sure which faction to prop up if not El Caudillo. Sharina doesn't care about supporting or "aganist" communist, capitalist, democracies, etc.

With that viewpoint in mind, I suppose I could tell you, in order to perhaps have you think about supporting the FNLA, that democracies are generally very stable societies, and generally democracies are not overthrown to make way for a better government; when they are overthrown, the government that follows is generally worse. Note that I'm saying "generally" a lot because, as with all things, there are probably exceptions to what I'm saying. Keeping my above statements in mind, I would say that it would be logical for you to support the FNLA, because after all, a stable society is one that gives you maximum progress, no?

EC, I need a government controlled port to land my soldiers at. Or a rebel controlled port, that I can bomb to Hell and back then land my soldiers. I would want the first one but will take the second one.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/Roach-Busters/Angola_RP_map.gif

Why did you hack poor Roach-Busters' photobucket account? Or, a more plausible theory, you are in fact Roach-Busters?

The link is unparsed, but you can copy/paste it in your browser window.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/Roach-Busters/Angola_RP_map.gif

Why did you hack poor Roach-Busters' photobucket account? Or, a more plausible theory, you are in fact Roach-Busters?

The link is unparsed, but you can copy/paste it in your browser window.

I know him IRL.