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I, Chancellor Rea of the Federation of Sceptical States, would like to make an open challenge. Our federation, and The Southern Socialist States in which it lies, have made a pledge to fight evil wherever it may lie. As such i declare war on any enemies of the socialist state, and invite other socialist nations to support the effort. I have a force of only 10000 recruits, and need support from allies. We must fight corruption wherever it may lie!

Um... how do you know who the enemies are?

- Head of State, Dictator of Sumer,
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar

So you are declaring war on every non-socialist nation, with an army of a ten thousand?

Yes we know who the enemy is. And no we are not declaring war on every non-socialist state. The enemy are those who violently oppose socailism, not merely those who are not socialists. The omzian army are an example of the enemy. It is a war we cannot win without allies, as i have stated, and it is possible that the sss is going to its doom. We will ,however, not bow to false leaders at any stage in history.

Chancellor Rea

The enemy is Shildonia, and the time is now.

OOC: Will they recognize this, though? Did you ask them first?

Omz222 and Shildonia have the option not to accept this as a legit attack.

While we may not often directly interact with the Omzians, I'm pretty sure that they don't go out and kill "socialists" in their free time.
As for other enemies, I'd like to see a list.

- Head of State, Dictator of Sumer,
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar

Since sociallism isn't a ideology that is considered to have much relevance in our nation, all we can do is tell you your most likely S.O.L.

***Official Proclimation***
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
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The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom has decided that the SSS is not a threat to them. Although we don't oppress Socialism, we do not believe that Socialism is the way everything should be and thus only 5% of the population of the Holy Empire is socialist. We do though, listen to the socialists and change certain laws to give everyone more freedoms in our society.

We believe, that with an Ideological government (segments of Socialism and Capitalism cobined), people will be more trustful of their government than with just a strict Capitalist or Socialist government. We will not, though, push our ideology onto other nations or their people. What goes on in their nation, stays in their nation.

Mr. Shaz Bot
Emporer

~~~End Transmission~~~

OOC: Hmm, SSS, are you still going to wage this war against me? If so, I'll get a post later today. I don't think that you would like it ICly, though.

I withdraw my threat of war. I apologise for the inconvenience. I don't suggest a allaince, but co-operation between our great nations would be nice. I am new to power, having been elected very recently, and could do with an experienced aquaitance.

Chancellor Rea

I withdraw my threat of war. I apologise for the inconvenience. I don't suggest a allaince, but co-operation between our great nations would be nice. I am new to power, having been elected very recently, and could do with an experienced aquaitance.

Chancellor Rea

The United Empire of Colerica -- a nation that stands ferventantly against socialism -- is pleased that you have composed yourself in such a matter that would not equate itself with hostility. We would not appreciate identify such a small nation as an enemy without proper reasoning to do so.

Regards,

Kircer Danton
Magistrate of Foreign Affairs

I was proclaiming my no-hostility to another nation. As for ur excuse for a state bring it on. The SSS has been hording weapons for years, and while are troop numbers are small our technology is enough to cause u signifucant pain.

Chancellor Rea

I was proclaiming my no-hostility to another nation. As for ur excuse for a state bring it on. The SSS has been hording weapons for years, and while are troop numbers are small our technology is enough to cause u signifucant pain.

Chancellor Rea


If any attack is made against the Nation of Colerica, the Holy Empire will come to their aide. They have made no threats against the Nation of Sceptical States so there is no reason for SSS to threaten the Nation of Colerica. I suggest an immediate withdrawl of your threat or you will be beat down by a larger nation.

Emporer Shaz Bot

I was proclaiming my no-hostility to another nation. As for ur excuse for a state bring it on. The SSS has been hording weapons for years, and while are troop numbers are small our technology is enough to cause u signifucant pain.

Chancellor Rea

The United Empire of Colerica is amused at your challenge. Please note that the Colerican Imperial Intelligence Agency -- our government's intelligence service -- has more operatives working for it than your nation has citizens. Even while we are engaged in a foreign war in the second liberation of Isla de Plata, we are more than willing to answer your threat. We give you a formal warning to recant your threat.

Regards,

Kircer Danton
Magistrate of Foreign Affairs

Kressi Thra
Magistrate of State

Maderic Thra
Emperor

Your petty pledges of war amuse me. You may have far larger numbers of troops than us, and you may win the war, but we will kill millions. For years we have worked on weapons beyond your imagination, and our forces are trained in this use of these tools. We will not back down, and we will take you wth us if necessary. Diplomacy is the answer, but a weapons are primed and a combat force is ready for action.

WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN

General Heffernan
Aide to Chancellor Rea and Head of the Armed Forces

Dr. Zhu
Weapons Developer for The Federation od SCeptical States

Wing Cmmdr Tse
Head of the SSS rapid reaction force

OOC: Tell me OOCly what these weapons are. Even though i'm sure that your budget couldn't support those types of weapons though.

ooc: the weapons involve both nuclear and plasma warheads, and the funds were raised by sympathising socialists comrades. we have allies, i only recently signed a pact will a socialist nation very close to our enemies, and with substanstial resources and men

Your petty pledges of war amuse me. You may have far larger numbers of troops than us, and you may win the war, but we will kill millions. For years we have worked on weapons beyond your imagination, and our forces are trained in this use of these tools. We will not back down, and we will take you wth us if necessary. Diplomacy is the answer, but a weapons are primed and a combat force is ready for action.

WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN

General Heffernan
Aide to Chancellor Rea and Head of the Armed Forces

Dr. Zhu
Weapons Developer for The Federation od SCeptical States

Wing Cmmdr Tse
Head of the SSS rapid reaction force

OOC: You do realize that all I have plenty of nuclear-armed Peacekeeper Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles and would be more than willing to turn your whole nation into glass if provoked, right?

Question: are you a land-locked nation or do you border the ocean? Also, I, too, am interested in hearing the extent of these 'weapons beyond my imagination.' An IC post is forthcoming.

ooc: the weapons involve both nuclear and plasma warheads, and the funds were raised by sympathising socialists comrades. we have allies, i only recently signed a pact will a socialist nation very close to our enemies, and with substanstial resources and men

OOC: You are godmodding. You cannot possess weapons of mass destruction at your nation's age. I refer you to the consolidation thread found in the sticky at the top of this forum if you are unfamiliar with what godmodding is.

OOC: as i have stated we have both nuclear and plasma warheads, funded by rich socialist nations. we have a vast scheme of defense bunkers, and our tiny population can survive any attack. be warned also, we live by the ocean, now heavily mined, in an ice-shelf on new terra. should your missles miss us they shall hit north mack, a substansial enemy. we have allies such as kluxklanman, warfaralia and mark1990 primed for war on new terra, and we have a large ally of over 1 billion troops located near you. i would like to note that our missles are pointing at u, our population is below ground and our rapid reaction force is based near your region. millions of troops are at your door. we will not back down.

as i have stated, are weapons were funded by econimcally powerful socialist nations. our troops are happy, yours are oppressed. who do u think will fight better?

OOC: as i have stated we have both nuclear and plasma warheads, funded by rich socialist nations. we have a vast scheme of defense bunkers, and our tiny population can survive any attack. be warned also, we live by the ocean, now heavily mined, in an ice-shelf on new terra. should your missles miss us they shall hit north mack, a substansial enemy. we have allies such as kluxklanman, warfaralia and mark1990 primed for war on new terra, and we have a large ally of over 1 billion troops located near you. i would like to note that our missles are pointing at u, our population is below ground and our rapid reaction force is based near your region. millions of troops are at your door. we will not back down.

~ Ignore cannon primed. Awaiting activation codes for firing from Emperor Thra. ~

Official reason: You don't know how to RP to save your life. Come back when your voice breaks.

big man are we?
ohh i dont know how to pretend to be a character in a game properly. that makes me a kid does it. good one. im really upset. you know what they say, big country, small.........................

big man are we?
ohh i dont know how to pretend to be a character in a game properly. that makes me a kid does it. good one. im really upset. you know what they say, big country, small.........................

OOC:

It is entirely not my fault that you lack any skills to coherently role-play by the rules laid out for you on this forum. If you cannot adhere to said rules, perhaps it is time you take your [lack of] abilities elsewhere. Moreover, your use of ad-hominems only furthers my point and expounds your immaturity.

big man are we?
ohh i dont know how to pretend to be a character in a game properly. that makes me a kid does it. good one. im really upset. you know what they say, big country, small.........................

And what you just said is called Flaimbaiting.





*Mod Report Cannon Armed & Waiting Activation*




Keep it up and i will make sure that the mods see this

i was actually just joking
sorry for any offense caused
i mean no harm

SS: Ditch the millions of troops, the plasma weapons, and come up with a more plausible description of your homeland defence or I'll just ignore you. Which is a shame, because I haven't had chance to flatten someone for months and I was rather looking forward to it.

OOC: As an experienced player who has actually played teh game for a long time, if you want recongition and does not want to be shunned by many of the older RPers here, follow Shildonia's advice. I don't care how many of these so-called allied "nations" you have, a 5 million population nation with a Basket Case economy isn't going to have anything beyond a thousands-man strong defence force with conventional weapons. Even if you do have extensive proofs showing that you did receive funds from elsewhere from other nations in a process that is roleplayed, (and not in the form of using "puppet" nations - aka nations created by you besides your main nation), it's simply absurd and ridiculous to say that a 5 million nation can build and manufacture, let along maintain, nuclear weapons.
As well, declaring war on a much larger power isn't a wise idea, and it will only invite said nation to create extreme IC unpleasantness (read: total annihilation). You might want to read the "Consolidation Sticky". Takes some time, I agree, but definately worth it, and will improve not only your experience but your understanding as well. Similarily, play fair. While admittingly you will be put at a disadvantage with such economy and population, it doesn't mean the only thing you should do is "war. war. war". There are a lot of possibilities beyond it. However, if you do choose the path of war at a such premature age, then I can guarentee you that it wouldn't be pleasant - and no complains.

Other than that, follow the ways here, and welcome to NS. Listen to others' advice, don't act arrogantly, and good luck :)

*cough* *points at Sceptical States Budget*

Notice the section that is Bolded. That is how much money you have to work with for your military. It's zero. You have to wait a day or two (not sure how long it takes) for an issue to pop up with something to do with a military. Vote for something that says it gives more money to your military then you will have a budget for it. Unless, some smaller nations without a defence budget state that they use their "Government Waste" to fund their military. This would mean that the stuff in RED will be what you use for your military. It's still not much, but it's enough for automatic rifles, handguns, and machine guns.

Government Budget: $1,334,684,206.80
Government Expenditures: $1,307,990,522.66
Goverment Waste: $26,693,684.14

Administration: $444,716,777.71
Social Welfare: $510,116,303.84
Healthcare: $170,038,767.95
Education: $170,038,767.95
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00
Defence: $0.00
Law & Order: $0.00
Commerce: $0.00
Public Transport: $0.00
The Environment: $0.00
Social Equality: $0.00