NationStates Jolt Archive

A great man, Minister of Morality Francois Waldo Vorster, once said, "The two greatest antagonists of liberty are immorality and subversion. Only when both are conquered can the world achieve peace and can mankind achieve reconciliation with the wrathful Almighty." It was with this in mind that Parliament unanimously passed the Suppression of Subversion Bill, signed into law by Chancellor Adolfo Portocarrero, and implemented today as the Suppression of Subversion Act. This act, contrived to combat subversive and dangerous literature which might taint the impressionable minds of the young and instill thoughts of dissent, officially outlaws several books deemed "dangerous" by the government. In a televised speech before Parliament, the Minister of Education, Mario Domingo Garcia announced that, as of today, the following tomes are illegal, and anyone who owns, sells, distributes, or promtotes them is subject to incarceration in a thought reform detention center for up to 10 years:

The Communist Manifesto
Prison Notebooks
Letters From Prison
Mein Kampf
The Doctrine of Fascism
Quotations From Chairman Mao
The Kinsey Report
Democracy and Education
Das Kapital
The Feminist Mystique
The Course of Positive Philosophy
Beyond Good and Evil
General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money
The Humanist Manifesto
The Gay Science
Origin of Man
Descent of Man
Guerrilla Warfare
Steal this Book
The Chomsky Reader
A People's History of the United States
What Is To Be Done
Authoritarian Personality
On Liberty
Beyond Freedom and Dignity
Reflections on Violence
The Promise of American Life
Madness and Civilization
Soviet Communism: A New Civilization
Coming of Age in Samoa
Unsafe at Any Speed
Silent Spring
Wretched of the Earth
Introduction to Psychoanalysis
The Greening of America
The Limits to Growth
Franklin Delano Roosevelt: Champion of Freedom
Earth in the Balance
People's War, People's Army
Theory of Justice
The Jungle
The Grapes of Wrath

OOC: What, no condemnations!? :p

OOC: As much as we would like to as a liberal nation, in order to not damage the building of our nation ties, we tied Princess Layla to a place where she can't send a message. :p :D

{OOC: Lol. I'm curious, are you actually Christian or are you like Sidestreamer and just role play a Religious nation?}

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Well, we can tell exactly what economic view the administratin of El Caudillo follow, now can't we? We condemn this list of 'Most Harmful Books' as merely and attempt to undermind the Communists and revolutionary wing of politics around the world.

This is nothing more but a blatant attempt to draw attentiona way from strikes, revolutions, and truely neccessary things that must be understood around the world. A weapon of mass distraction is all this is.

Sincerely,
Robert Pacitania, General Secretary Of The Communist Party Of The Soviet Union

OOC: What, no condemnations!? :p

Well... maybe if you did something evil in a stylish way, you might get some attention ;)

{OOC: Lol. I'm curious, are you actually Christian or are you like Sidestreamer and just role play a Religious nation?}

(OOC: I'm Christian IRL, but I greatly exaggerate everything IC, just for fun. ;))

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Well, we can tell exactly what economic view the administratin of El Caudillo follow, now can't we? We condemn this list of 'Most Harmful Books' as merely and attempt to undermind the Communists and revolutionary wing of politics around the world.

This is nothing more but a blatant attempt to draw attentiona way from strikes, revolutions, and truely neccessary things that must be understood around the world. A weapon of mass distraction is all this is.

Sincerely,
Robert Pacitania, General Secretary Of The Communist Party Of The Soviet Union


"Do you really think we care whether or not you condemn this list? The only opinions we tolerate are those of human beings, not those of animals. Communists are not human beings, they are animals."

--Minister of Education Mario Domingo Garcia--

Well... maybe if you did something evil in a stylish way, you might get some attention ;)

OOC: Hmmm...will do. Thanks! :D

*Chuckles in an evil way*

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Perhaps when the Worldwide Mir Initaitve is notified of your blatant abuse in human rights and civil freedoms, you will be listening to us 'communist animals'...

Sincerely,
Robert Pacitania, General Secretary Of The Communist Party Of The Soviet Union

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Perhaps when the Worldwide Mir Initaitve is notified of your blatant abuse in human rights and civil freedoms, you will be listening to us 'communist animals'...

Sincerely,
Robert Pacitania, General Secretary Of The Communist Party Of The Soviet Union


"Please, do not take solace in your dark master, Lucifer. Repent your satanic views before the Almighty damns you into a maelstrom of searing hellfire!"

--Garcia--

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Official Statement, Incorporated Sarzonian Government

We find the establishment of this "list" of harmful books to be an exercise in ignorance in the extreme on the part of El Caudillo. We are glad we do not have a society that is run by a so-called Big Brother who may be compensating for a sense of inadequacy outside the realm of national politics.

The Incorporated Sarzonian government strongly condemns the existence of this list of 'harmful' books and challenges the El Caudillo government to come up with something a little better than books it doesn't like. Perhaps actually refuting the ideas with a little intelligence would be in order.

Nicole Lewis
Lieutenant President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

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Official Statement, Incorporated Sarzonian Government

We find the establishment of this "list" of harmful books to be an exercise in ignorance in the extreme on the part of El Caudillo. We are glad we do not have a society that is run by a so-called Big Brother who may be compensating for a sense of inadequacy outside the realm of national politics.

The Incorporated Sarzonian government strongly condemns the existence of this list of 'harmful' books and challenges the El Caudillo government to come up with something a little better than books it doesn't like. Perhaps actually refuting the ideas with a little intelligence would be in order.

Nicole Lewis
Lieutenant President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

"Why bother refuting them? Most people on Earth are far too stupid to know right from wrong. Thus, if we shield them from all wrong, they can know only right. Tell me, Ms. Lewis, you are not a member of the Third International, are you?"

--Garcia--

Official Statment from Weyoun Head of Forgian Affairs

We feel that it is the right of a Nation to remove books that are harmful and could lead to dissent. The main goal of every nation sould be keeping the peace and it sould be done by any way the goverment sees fit.
We however do not remove books for the simple fact our people have learned this them selfs and are loyal to us. However any book we found to be feeding dissent would be removed at once and those who kept them would be punished. We support El Caudillo once more in their actions to keep the peace.

Signed Weyoun

"We thank Neo Zeta's praise, and commend their sensibility and vast wisdom."

--Garcia--

You could use more books. There are many books supporting Communism, Environmentalism, Anarchism, and all that.

Official Statement of the Sharina Technocracy:

Your decision to ban these books will only damage your nation in the long run, for several cruical reasons. The Sharina Technocracy has long held the policy of placing no restrictions on the flow of information. One of the most important tools of civilization is information, because with it, you can educate people, make people intelligent, harm others via mis-information, create national identities, and a plethora of other applications. To put it simply, with no information, there is no civilization.

By with-holding the free flow of information by banning these books, you harm yourself in several ways.

1. Your people will not be able to understand how their percieved enemies think or act. If they do not know or understand communism, democracies, facism, etc. then how will they combat these governments effectively? The adage "Know thine enemy" comes to mind, and it is an invaluable tool to have.



2. Without conflicting views, there can be no competition. Without competition, progress stagnates. Throughout human history, conflicts and competition have always brought the necessary progress to propel us to the next epoch of civilization.

We had conflicts about how to grow and gather food. Thus, we developed farming methods. Competition between farming groups led to better and better farming methods.

We had conflicts in warfare obviously. Competition between each warring side produces better and more effective offense and defense equipment and technologies. Look at World War II for an excellent example of this.

We have had disagreements in science and medicine. Those disagreements led to progress, as we took on new, different, and radical ideas. Take the internal combustion engine, steam power, air-flight, outer-space, human anatomy, pharameticals, and so forth for examples of this.

Need I go on with the list of conflicts and competition? The bottom line of this is that without conflict or competition, we'd be living in the Stone Age, without the miracles and wonders of the modern world, and the enhancement of human life as we know it.



3. In banning such material, you have apparently angered or upset several nations. This is an extremely risky move, considering their strength compared to yours, and the networks of alliances that they are involved in. They may embargo, place trade sanctions, or decide to invade your nation. Then their allies would be drawn into the conflict, either directly or indirectly. Thus it will become a death spiral, continuing on and on until nearly everybody is dead, dying, or ruined.

Nothing is more harmful to a newly formed nation than having multiple embargoes, trade sanctions, and possible blockades imposed on it.



It is my hope that you are able to understand the Sharina Technocracy's views, as we do not want yet another newly formed nation to crumble into dust because of small mistakes.

Good day,
President Mina Veristek

You know, that "Minister of Morality" doesn't sound like that much of a great man. Maybe if im bored, ill send a couple of assassins against him :D :mp5:

You missed "The Night of January 16th" (O.K., it's a play).

Oh, and just about everything ever written by Samuel Clemens.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF SOUTH AFRICA

South Africa condemns these moves on the part of El Caudillo. We do not understand why things so precious as books would be banned merely for the illusion of security. We are a free nation with a free press, and we prosper.

South Africa will monitor these events carefully, and intervene if necessary.

-Daniel Lockhart
State President of South Africa

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Official Government Response
All though we applaud the international on their diplomatic maneuvers, any attempt at invading El Caudillo shall be met with the full force of the Dracun Imperium. It is within their sovereign right to do as they fit and their heavily religious nation accepts and respects such government actions so we should as well.

The El Caudillo people are quite happy with their zealous government, how would invading help them? It would only cause them to fight for their God. So you would become aggressors, murderers in their eyes and their hate will become unmatched invading them is not an option and as stated it will be met with the Dracun Armed Forces

***Official Proclimation***
Made by: Emporer Shaz Bot
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
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The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom does not mind the banning of books even though we don't exercize that practice. What we don't like is the mass murder of people who wish the government to change certain things about their society. This cannot be allowed!

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Official Government Response
All though we applaud the international on their diplomatic maneuvers, any attempt at invading El Caudillo shall be met with the full force of the Dracun Imperium. It is within their sovereign right to do as they fit and their heavily religious nation accepts and respects such government actions so we should as well.

The El Caudillo people are quite happy with their zealous government, how would invading help them? It would only cause them to fight for their God. So you would become aggressors, murderers in their eyes and their hate will become unmatched invading them is not an option and as stated it will be met with the Dracun Armed Forces

"What of those within El Caudillo who ARE NOT happy with the current regime? Surely, there are some people within El Caudillo who are dis-satisfied with the government, and those who would seek to continue their previous activities that are recently banned by El Caudillo.

Those people should be given the option of evacuation to other nations, instead of being executed or such."

Good day,
President Mina Veristek

Message to Sharina,
That however is an idea that the El Caudillo government should consider, We will hold a conference with our ally on such a matter. Your input shall be noted and might yet lead to a possible solution to this whole international mess.
Minister Adrienne Zavar
Foreign and Trade Minister
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Heh heh heh. How did you come up with such a large list of qzawsxedcrftvgybhunjinhbygvtfcrdxeszwexdrcftvgybhunjihbygvtfcrdxesdrcftvgybhu?

(This is NOT an official statement, the views expressed herein are solely that of the Secretary General Himself)

The government of El Caudillo never ceases to amuse me with its constant breaches upon the freedoms of its citizens.

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(Ce n'est pas un énoncé officiel, les idées communiqué ici sont seulment les idées du Secrétaire General-même)

Le gouvernement d'El Caudillo ne cesse jamais de m'amuse avec ses brèches regulière sûr les libertés de ses citoyens.

Heh heh heh. How did you come up with such a large list of qzawsxedcrftvgybhunjinhbygvtfcrdxeszwexdrcftvgybhunjihbygvtfcrdxesdrcftvgybhu?

(OOC: Human Events Online has a list of 'most harmful books.' Each is on my list, plus several I added.)

Banning books is rather repressive and inefficent, I prefer killing ideas, which can be done by killing all the people in your nation that hold that idea.

-Shah Khosru III

Banning books is rather repressive and inefficent, I prefer killing ideas, which can be done by killing all the people in your nation that hold that idea.

-Shah Khosru III

"We thank a man of your stature and staggering intellect for the input. We shall, of course, implement your logical and just ideas by putting those who hold such ideas to death. However, the books will still be banned."

--Garcia--

"We thank a man of your stature and staggering intellect for the input. We shall, of course, implement your logical and just ideas by putting those who hold such ideas to death. However, the books will still be banned."

--Garcia--

A brilliant and wise course of action, most of those books on your list are banned in Parthia as well, but a few more are on the list of banned books as well, namely 1984, Uncle Tom's Cabin, and some other abominations of literature. A few books on your list, mostly the religious, scientific, and philosophical works are not banned or restricted in Parthia, nor are any books in support of fascist or Nazi ideology.

-Shah Khosru III

A brilliant and wise course of action, most of those books on your list are banned in Parthia as well, but a few more are on the list of banned books as well, namely 1984, Uncle Tom's Cabin, and some other abominations of literature. A few books on your list, mostly the religious, scientific, and philosophical works are not banned or restricted in Parthia, nor are any books in support of fascist or Nazi ideology.

-Shah Khosru III

"Thank you, Your Majesty. However, because 1984 graphically portrays how bestial and atrocious communism is, we believe it serves as great anti-communist propaganda. Our only qualms are that it was written by a- ugh!- socialist. By the way, we hear that these 'Shoobans' are quite dim-witted. May we purchase some for you, to serve as our slaves?"

--Garcia--

"Thank you, Your Majesty. However, because 1984 graphically portrays how bestial and atrocious communism is, we believe it serves as great anti-communist propaganda. Our only qualms are that it was written by a- ugh!- socialist. By the way, we hear that these 'Shoobans' are quite dim-witted. May we purchase some for you, to serve as our slaves?"

--Garcia--

Most certainly, if permitted, I can allow the Teymorian Slavetrading firm to set up a company in your nation. They provide 65% of all Shooban slaves in Parthia purchased every year and can even get new product straight from Shoobooshaaba.

-Shah Khosru III

Most certainly, if permitted, I can allow the Teymorian Slavetrading firm to set up a company in your nation. They provide 65% of all Shooban slaves in Parthia purchased every year and can even get new product straight from Shoobooshaaba.

-Shah Khosru III

"Thank you, Your Excellency! We will purchase 100,000 of the savage simpletons, if possible."

--Reynaldo Salazar, Minister of Foreign Affairs

"Thank you, Your Excellency! We will purchase 100,000 of the savage simpletons, if possible."

--Reynaldo Salazar, Minister of Foreign Affairs

$100 a head for male laborers and $50 for breeding females is the rate, please choose what you desire.

-Lord Rostam Teymorian: President of Teymorian Industries

$100 a head for male laborers and $50 for breeding females is the rate, please choose what you desire.

-Lord Rostam Teymorian: President of Teymorian Industries

"Could we have half of each? We plan to breed them. According to our sources, they breed like rats. A rather apt description, we think."

--Salazar--

"Could we have half of each? We plan to breed them. According to our sources, they breed like rats. A rather apt description, we think."

--Salazar--

Of course, that will be $7,500,000. Please wire the money to the Bank of Persepolis and we will bring the shipment directly from our warehouse in Shoobooshaaba.

-Sales Department: Teymorian Slaveholders INC.

Telegram from Mr Fungles to El Caudillo
Book Bannings? Slave owning? Christianity?! This has gone far enough, the Spooty will be positioning 3 ironclad steamships outside your seas in international waters, we hope that your nation see's how impure it has become

Of course, that will be $7,500,000. Please wire the money to the Bank of Persepolis and we will bring the shipment directly from our warehouse in Shoobooshaaba.

-Sales Department: Teymorian Slaveholders INC.

"Thank you. The money is being wired to your account as we speak."

--Salazar--

Banning books is rather repressive and inefficent, I prefer killing ideas, which can be done by killing all the people in your nation that hold that idea.

-Shah Khosru III

"That cannot be done, for rebellious thought is inevitable.

In addition, it is impossible to eliminate an idea via massacre or military means once it takes hold. The only way to disprove ideas is to prove them wrong, such as the ancient idea of the Sun orbiting Earth, but was disproven by Galileo and other astronomers.

Taking oppressive means to eliminate ideas will only result in rebellion, revolutions, and hatred."

President Mina Veristek

[OOC: Why didn't you ban Theory of Justice by John Rawls? I highly doubt you approve of Socialist Contract-Theory.

I won't force you to do anything, though.]

Better ban "The Jungle" too. Can't have the people knowing the sorry state of your meat packing plants, now can you?

Better ban "The Jungle" too. Can't have the people knowing the sorry state of your meat packing plants, now can you?

We banned that piece of propaganda the day it was published in Parthia.

-Shah Khosru III

Better ban "The Jungle" too. Can't have the people knowing the sorry state of your meat packing plants, now can you?

(OOC: ROFLMAO, funny you should say that! I was just about to add it to the list, too! ;) What a coincidence, eh? :D)

OOC: I'm awaiting a reponse from you, Caud, it's in your first thread. (The act nr.1)

OOC: I'm awaiting a reponse from you, Caud, it's in your first thread. (The act nr.1)

(OOC: Regarding the embassy exchange? I said it was okay.)

(OOC: Regarding the embassy exchange? I said it was okay.)

(OOC: I posted some extra information, small letters, I do not wanna get struck in a diplomatic fight over it)

(OOC: I posted some extra information, small letters, I do not wanna get struck in a diplomatic fight over it)

(OOC: All right.)

OOC: El Caudillo it seems your a great rper but i just dont agree with you on many of your rps

IC: OFFICAL DECLARATION OF WAR FROM FUTUREENGLAND

Your Government has 24 hours (NS) to respond and tell me why we should not invade you from now on we are offically at war

END STATEMENT

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Official Declaration of War
There seems to be one on the bunch, and that is you FutureEngland. For dare declaring war on our ally, a state of war now exists between our two nations. I am also quite sure that the nations of Parthia and Doomingsland will also take part in help crushing your nation and make you unable to ever make such a declaration again, you made the wrong move and now you pay for it.

Commander Kronos Shysa
Chief of Armed Forces
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OOC: El Caudillo it seems your a great rper but i just dont agree with you on many of your rps

IC: OFFICAL DECLARATION OF WAR FROM FUTUREENGLAND

Your Government has 24 hours (NS) to respond and tell me why we should not invade you from now on we are offically at war

END STATEMENT

(OOC: Thanks.)

IC:


"How's this for a reason? We have three extremely powerful allies called Dracun imperium, Doomingsland, and The Parthians, who could decimate you with a swat of the wrist."

--Reynaldo Salazar, Foreign Minister of El Caudillo--

One of Holy Paradise's writers looked at the list. Even though he hated those books, this law were an infringement on free speech. So he wrote a book denouncing El Caudillo's actions. It was called, "El Caudillo=Oppression".

A random part of the book:

"..Although the books listed I would be glad to never see again, others might feel differently, and that is why El Caudillo's move to ban those books is disgraceful and a blow to liberty itself. I encourage all people to never use El Caudillian items or go to El Caudillo if you are a foreigner."

One of Holy Paradise's writers looked at the list. Even though he hated those books, this law were an infringement on free speech. So he wrote a book denouncing El Caudillo's actions. It was called, "El Caudillo=Oppression".

A random part of the book:

"..Although the books listed I would be glad to never see again, others might feel differently, and that is why El Caudillo's move to ban those books is disgraceful and a blow to liberty itself. I encourage all people to never use El Caudillian items or go to El Caudillo if you are a foreigner."

"Great, another nation of devil-worshipping heathens. Perhaps you should call your name to Unholy Paradise."

--Reynaldo Salazar, Minister of Foreign Affairs--