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History/Overview:

The SPM-192 is Space Union's answer to the increasing amount of new tanks being produced around the world from various nations. It combines sheer firepower and advanced electronics in a combination to effectively eliminate its enemies. The SPM-192 started out as the XMBT-192. Space Union's government requested for a new advanced MBT that would have a powerful main gun and secondary weapons, along with the most advanced electronics around. The XMBT-192 became that ideal tank. It features a powerful 125mm ETC main gun along with a powerful suite of secondary weapons that will serve any purpose. Along with that, the XMBT-192 has some of the most advanced electronics around including newly, developed systems made in Space Union. Currently, the SPM-192 is being ordered by Space Union and the export variant, SPM-192E1 is being offered for export. Further refinements and advances will be marked by an increase of the number after the "E" (stands for "Export").

Picture of the SPM-192E1 (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/Blackbird-SR-71/SPM-192.bmp)

Armor:

The SPM-192 is armored with some of the most advanced armor around. It features the newly, designed "PAMDA" armor. "PAMDA" stand for Projectile And Missile Deflecting Armor. It has been designed to fight both threats that pose a significant threat to the SPM-192. "PANDA" is a multi-layered armor similar to other designs that intend to defeat projectiles and missiles.

PAMDA Armor:

Layer 1: ERA protection against HEAT and KE projectiles/missiles.

Layer 2: Stainless Steel Plated layer. First line of defense against penetrating projectiles. Is designed in plates for easy replacement and maintaince.

Layer 3: Ballastic Ceramic Plating. It is designed to absorb heat from projectiles and protect the crew from radiation.

Layer 4: Titanium-Aluminium layer. Designed to withstand heat and KE from incoming projectiles. This layer is very flexible yet strong so it can deflect incoming projectiles.

Layer 5: Reinforced carbon-steel layer. Another layer of armor to further protect the MBT. Surrounds the crew compartments to ensure that the crew remain alive during heavy bombardment from the enemy.

Layer 6: Ballastic Ceramic Plating.

Layer 7: Stainless Steel Plating.

Layer 8: Titanium-Aluminium Layer.

Layer 9: Composite material layer. Designed to provide concentrated protection to vital parts of the SPM-192.

Layer 10: Reinforced carbon-steel layer.

Layer 11: Rubber layer that will absorb spalling and protect the crew and systems.

Front: 2,540mm (KE)/ 3,300mm (HEAT)
Side: 1,270mm (KE)/ 1,6500mm (HEAT)
Rear: 900mm (KE)/ 1,260mm (HEAT)

The PAMDA is for this reason one of the best armors around. It is designed to deflect any type of missile or projectile thrown by the enemy at it. To ensure even more protection, the entire body has been slanted at an average of 35 degrees. This allows for the projectiles to be deflected, further improving the survivability fo the SPM-192. Also the entire armor/layers are modulare so that specifically damaged areas can be easily replaced.

To allow better survivability, the engine and fuel compartments are toward the back of the vehicle while the crew compartment is up to the front. This makes sure that the crew isn't hurt if an explosion happens in the fuel or engine compartment. Also the ammo compartment is kept toward the middle-bottom and has thicker armor so that nothing penetrates and if it does explode, the armor will stop it from damaging the crew compartment or posing a threat to them.

Weapons - Main Gun:

The SPM-192 features an improved 125mm Main ETC Gun called the SUETC-192. This gun if a formidable enemy to any enemy tanks or infantry. It packs a powerful punch that matches guns from other advanced main battle tanks. To power this mammoth, the gun converts some of the recoil energy into electric energy. Not only that, but friction created by the projectile leaving the gun, it is capable of capturing lost heat and convert it into energy. This dramatically cuts back on the energy usuage compared to other guns.

The SUETC-192 is made from composite material. This greatly improves the strength and durability of the gun. Not only that, but the gun has been made to be easily disassembled. The SUETC-1 is divided into 4 sections that can easily be removed and changed if damaged. In less than 30 minutes, a damaged SUETC-1 can be repaired to become once again working and deadly.

To supply this gigantic gun, a new autoloading system was needed. The autoloader (AT-192) has a chain that connects to the ammo compartment. There the ammo is put onto the chain where it is transported to the back of the barrel. Once there the chain unlocks letting just one of the ammo fall into the firing position. After that the ammo is locked once the aiming position is locked. This system effectively allows the autoloader to work without glitch. Further it is not affected in any way by EMP blast that could leave other tanks offline.

Weapons - Secondary:

The SPM-192 is outfitted with a secondary suit, second-to-none. It features the following:

3x 7.62mm Machine Guns
3x 12.7mm Anti-Armor Guns
2x 20mm Cannon
1x M224 81mm Mortar
3x 40mm Smoke Grenade Launcher

These weapons will install a fear unmatched by other tanks into the minds of the unfortunte enemy.

Around the tank are 3 7.62mm Machine Guns. These are primarily anti-infantry weapons but can be utilized to damage armored vehicles. They can be manned manually by the commander or gunner. But also can be used by the AMPD Suit.

The 12.7 is the primary anti-armor and anti-helicopter gun. It can be used by either the commander or gunner to take out enemy tanks or APCs. It is utilized mainly in the destruction of APCs which are less armored, allowing them to be easy prey for the 12.7 mm machine gun. All of them are mounted co-axial to the main gun.

The 20mm cannons gives the SPM-192 some serious firepower compared to other tanks. It is primarily used to shoot down incoming helicopters and low-flying vehicles. It is directed by an onboard computer although manual override is available for the gunner or commander. It can also be used to destroy heavly armored tanks or APCs that pose a threat to the vehicle. Both are located on top of the turret.

A 81mm mortar allows the SPM-192 to provide support to infantry and strategic positions. The 81mm is located on-top of the turret to provide maximum manuverability to aid friendly forces. Unlike other guns, the 81mm mortar can't be used in conjuction with the AMPD Suit.

Lastly, the SPM-192 is outfitted with 3 40mm Smoke Grenade Launchers that will assist the 81mm in providing infantry support. They are located around the tank but are shielded from incoming projectiles. These weapons are automatic but can be manually used by the gunner or commander.

Electronics/Sensors:

The SPM-192's main goal not only to be a competitor to other MBTs but to have the best electronics. So it is no surprise that the SPM-192 is outfitted with some of the best avionics and sensors around.

AMPD Suite: This suit called the AMPD (Anti-Missile and Projectile Defense) Suit is intended to provide the SPM-192 with superb defense against incoming ballastics. Designed with internetworking in mind, the AMPD Suit takes advantage of all the systems on-board and all the sensors the SPM-192 has, and uses them effectively to monitor the battlefield. When it detects difference in air pressure, blast, or picks up incoming objects, its mini-supercomputer quickly calculates the trajectory of the ballastic in less than 1 second. Once that is done, it uses the secondary weapons to destroy the incoming projectile at all cost. In fact, it can override the user of the weapon so the computer can use it. Tests have shown that it is capable of hitting a missile 90% of the time, while capable of hitting a projectile 87% of the time! Used in conjuction with the armor, it makes the SPM-192 nearly impenetrable.

Optical Sensory Suite: This suit gives the SPM-192 a wide-array of optical sensors that can determine dangers on the battlefield. It is outifitted a millimeter band radar dome that scans the area for enemy objects on both land, sea, and air. It also features thermal vision and ultraviolet vision to allow the crew to see no matter what.

LIDAR/LADAR System: The SPM-192 comes stander with a built-in Laser Rangefinder that is capable of tracking multiple-targets and present them to the commander. It can also determine if an enemy is one the move and how fast.

3D Optical Presentation: The SPM-192s most innovative feature is the 3D Model capability that allows it to present to the crew a 3D model of the entire battlefield with enemy and friendly positions marked and displayed. The crew can zoom into parts and zoom-out on others. Most of the info needed is gathered from outside computers and satellites. This effectively allows the crew to see even under a NBC environment or foggy, mysterious environment. And no longer will the enemy have a "homeground" advantage.

Tracking and Manuvering Suite: The SPM-192 is given the enemy tracking system. It allows the computer to track enemies all over the battlefield so they can never surprise the crew. It also alerts the crew if the object comes within striking range or could pose a serious-threat to the vehicle. The system works in conjunction with the AMPD System.

Specs:

B]Height:[/B] 3.4 m

Width: 4.2 m

Length: 11 m

Engine: 1 Union-120 Forester 2,800 hp diesal-electric hybrid

Cruising Speed: 41 mph (on-road); 21 mph (off-road)

Maximum Speed: 45 mph (on-road); 24 mph (off-road)

Range: 320 miles

Fording Depth: 2m (normal); 7m (snorkle)

Crew: 3 (Commander, Gunner, and Driver)

Weight: 78,000 kg

Ground Clearance: 0.3m

Main Armenant: 1x 125mm ETC Gun

Secondary Armenant: 3x 50 Caliber Machine Guns; 5x 7.62mm Machine Guns; 4x 12.7mm Anti-Armor Guns; 2x 20mm Cannon; 1x M224 81mm Mortar; 3x 40mm Smoke Grenade Launcher

Cost To Produce: $13.7 million

Price: $17 million

OOC: This is my really first MBT so it might not be the best of design. Please feel free to comment.

OOC: Erm, a 120mm ETC gun would be fine, but a 140mm ETC gun would require a much larger vehicle. The number of secondary weapons systems is too great as well: one would require a crew of about eight to serve them all. At the moment, this beast would not be particularly mobile and could only be used over hard ground. Once the weather enters the rainy season, these tanks will be sinking in the mud. Still, it's a good effort.

And it is "suite" not suit. Sorry, it's the former teaching assistant in me cropping up again...

"We will purchase 100 of them for $1.7 billion. If our order is confirmed, we will wire the allocated sum to your account. Thank you."

--Ludwig Bismarck, Minister of Defense--

OOC: Erm, a 120mm ETC gun would be fine, but a 140mm ETC gun would require a much larger vehicle. The number of secondary weapons systems is too great as well: one would require a crew of about eight to serve them all. At the moment, this beast would not be particularly mobile and could only be used over hard ground. Once the weather enters the rainy season, these tanks will be sinking in the mud. Still, it's a good effort.

And it is "suite" not suit. Sorry, it's the former teaching assistant in me cropping up again...

I've seen people putting now a standard 140mm ETC guns so I thought I might, but now that I think about it a 120mm would be fine. That will also bring down the weight much more.

Also the assortment of weapons are there not only to be manned but also to be used by the AMPD Suite. The Suite uses all these weapons to provide an allobrate defense for the SPM-192. So not all the guns have to be manned just when nessessary.

Thanks for the comments :) And I'll change it to "suite" ;)

OOC- Besides the concerns that Isselmere pointed out , I'm wondering, it has [i]avionics? How does it fly? Avionics are in aircraft for flight control/data. Other than that, it says the laser rangefinder can track targets, not unless you mean LIDAR/LADAR doubling as a rangefinder.

Other than that, looks good.

"We will purchase 100 of them for $1.7 billion. If our order is confirmed, we will wire the allocated sum to your account. Thank you."

--Ludwig Bismarck, Minister of Defense--

Thank You for buying from us. We hope they serve you with pride and dignity.

Signed,
Charles Patell

OOC- Besides the concerns that Isselmere pointed out , I'm wondering, it has [i]avionics? How does it fly? Avionics are in aircraft for flight control/data. Other than that, it says the laser rangefinder can track targets, not unless you mean LIDAR/LADAR doubling as a rangefinder.

Other than that, looks good.

I always thought avionics meant electronics in fancy words :confused:

I thought laser rangefinder was LIDAR/LADAR because of an article I read. If it isn't I'll change it.

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I always thought avionics meant electronics in fancy words :confused:
Understandable, but it's strictly an aircraft term.
I thought laser rangefinder was LIDAR/LADAR because of an article I read. If it isn't I'll change it.
Laser rangefinder is a specific term, whereas LIDAR/LADAR is the more general term, encompassing a range of related technologies. Again, it's an understandable mistake.

Those nations using 140mm ETC are probably pushing the envelope of believability (my storefront's tank has a conventional 140mm), and a 120mm ETC gun ought to be able to punch through any proper NS tank's armour -- and you can pack more rounds, as well!

Understandable, but it's strictly an aircraft term.

Laser rangefinder is a specific term, whereas LIDAR/LADAR is the more general term, encompassing a range of related technologies. Again, it's an understandable mistake.

Those nations using 140mm ETC are probably pushing the envelope of believability (my storefront's tank has a conventional 140mm), and a 120mm ETC gun ought to be able to punch through any proper NS tank's armour -- and you can pack more rounds, as well!

1. Ah I get it now.

2. Also got it now. I'll change it to LIDAR/LADAR instead of Laser rangefinder.

3. I changed it to a 125mm ETC Gun. That should be alright. :)

While 140mm ETC guns certainly offers the "big punch", in the end they are still not as practical as a 120mm ETC gun overall, due to not only fact that (as Isselmere pointed out) 120mm ETCs offers excellent performance anyways, but also that the the sheer size and the weight of the gun translates to a heavier weight and a larger tank, thus decreasing mobility and slowing the process of rapid deployment. This is extremely important if you are going to transport an entire armoured brigade via a fleet of cargo aircraft, as many ships are still simply too slow for true rapid deployment despite their much larger capacity and efficiency. To make up for the difference in power between the two guns (and I'm not in any way, an expert about land systems), you could also focus on improving existing APFSDS sabot penetrator rounds to give them improved performance and penetration.

While 140mm ETC guns certainly offers the "big punch", in the end they are still not as practical as a 120mm ETC gun overall, due to not only fact that (as Isselmere pointed out) 120mm ETCs offers excellent performance anyways, but also that the the sheer size and the weight of the gun translates to a heavier weight and a larger tank, thus decreasing mobility and slowing the process of rapid deployment. This is extremely important if you are going to transport an entire armoured brigade via a fleet of cargo aircraft, as many ships are still simply too slow for true rapid deployment. To make up for the difference in power between the two guns (and I'm not in any way, an expert about land systems), you could also focus on improving existing APFSDS sabot penetrator rounds to give them improved performance and penetration.

Yeah, I agree with both of you, a 120mm can probably penetrate any armor that will present itself today or in the next couple of decades (NS). Like you said it is much easier to maintain and is therefore more appealing for nations to use. Also I like your idea about improving the APFSDA Sabot penetrator round. I might sell it along with the gun. But yet even without an improved sabot, the gun should fit any role given to it.

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On behalf of the Utopia, we are interested in mass purchase of this battletank. 300 as a start, and then we shall contact you about additional contracts, we will transfer the funds upon confirmation:

300 X 17 million = 5 billion (USD equivalent).

Thank you

Ministry of Defense
Utopia of Rolen

On behalf of the Utopia, we are interested in mass purchase of this battletank. 300 as a start, and then we shall contact you about additional contracts, we will transfer the funds upon confirmation:

300 X 17 million = 5 billion (USD equivalent).

Thank you

Ministry of Defense
Utopia of Rolen

Your order is confirmed. But it will be $5.1 billion not $5 billion. Thank You for buying from us.

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Your order is confirmed. But it will be $5.1 billion not $5 billion. Thank You for buying from us.


((OOC: Darn math))

**Transfers the appropriate funding to Space Union** We will be eagerly awaiting delivery...and should be in touch for additional merchandise pending quality control.

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((OOC: Darn math))

**Transfers the appropriate funding to Space Union** We will be eagerly awaiting delivery...and should be in touch for additional merchandise pending quality control.

Your delivery will come in 2 months (NS). Thank You.

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i'll buy 10 of these tanks i know it's a small number but i'm buying them to test them out.
170 million dollars have been wired.

i'll buy 10 of these tanks i know it's a small number but i'm buying them to test them out.
170 million dollars have been wired.

Thank You for your purchase. They will arrive in 2 weeks.

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Not bad, my congrats to you.

Not bad, my congrats to you.

Thanks for the complement :)

OOC: Not bad, man. I'm on vacation, so I probably won't see your response until I get home (sometime tomorrow early afternoon, PST), but I might be interested in buying production rights, provided I can mount a 135mm ETC gun on it; that's what we use on our main MBT.

OOC: Not bad, man. I'm on vacation, so I probably won't see your response until I get home (sometime tomorrow early afternoon, PST), but I might be interested in buying production rights, provided I can mount a 135mm ETC gun on it; that's what we use on our main MBT.

Sorry but we are currently not selling production rights unless in certain conditions. We are sorry that it is not possible.

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OOC: A few things:

The armor there is rather heavy especially on the sides (side armor should only be 35-40% of front armor if you want decent speed. All units with heavier side armor do so at significant cost to speed, and transportability), and the armor scheme may be a bit heavy on the number of layers.

Also, there is WAY too much secondary armament, which would cause problems on numerous levels. First, you don't have the crew to effectively utilize all that. There shouldn't be more than one secondary weapon per crewmember. This includes coaxial, as the gunner (at least) will be putting all his effort into the main gun. The heaviest secondary armament on any tank is on the Merkava, which has 3 7.62mm guns (or 1 12.7mm and 2 7.62mm in some models), and one 60mm mortar, with a 4-man crew. For your vehicle, as it stands, you're pretty much expecting each crewmember to handle 5-6 weapons, which, even with the help of automation, is, simply put, impossible. The other problem is internal space. The average tank, which isn't much smaller than this, carries 40-50 rounds of main gun ammunition, 300 or so of 12.7mm ammunition, and 2000 of 7.62mm ammunition. There are ones that fit more (Merkava), but they tend to sacrifice things like speed and range to achieve that. Assuming a proper load for each weapon, this would have 2000 rounds of 12.7mm ammunition, at least 600 of 20mm ammunition, at least 5000 rounds of 7.62mm ammunition, and at least 20 81mm mortar rounds, along with 40 or so 125mm rounds. Now, as you might expect, that's A LOT of space, and with all the other stuff stuck inside this tank, there just isn't enough to go around.

Also, just a note that you may want to consider: .50 cal and 12.7mm are the same thing. The .50 cal BMG round is also known as the 12.7x99mm NATO. Different names, exact same bullet.

OOC: A few things:

The armor there is rather heavy especially on the sides (side armor should only be 35-40% of front armor if you want decent speed. All units with heavier side armor do so at significant cost to speed, and transportability), and the armor scheme may be a bit heavy on the number of layers.

Also, there is WAY too much secondary armament, which would cause problems on numerous levels. First, you don't have the crew to effectively utilize all that. There shouldn't be more than one secondary weapon per crewmember. This includes coaxial, as the gunner (at least) will be putting all his effort into the main gun. The heaviest secondary armament on any tank is on the Merkava, which has 3 7.62mm guns (or 1 12.7mm and 2 7.62mm in some models), and one 60mm mortar, with a 4-man crew. For your vehicle, as it stands, you're pretty much expecting each crewmember to handle 5-6 weapons, which, even with the help of automation, is, simply put, impossible. The other problem is internal space. The average tank, which isn't much smaller than this, carries 40-50 rounds of main gun ammunition, 300 or so of 12.7mm ammunition, and 2000 of 7.62mm ammunition. There are ones that fit more (Merkava), but they tend to sacrifice things like speed and range to achieve that. Assuming a proper load for each weapon, this would have 2000 rounds of 12.7mm ammunition, at least 600 of 20mm ammunition, at least 5000 rounds of 7.62mm ammunition, and at least 20 81mm mortar rounds, along with 40 or so 125mm rounds. Now, as you might expect, that's A LOT of space, and with all the other stuff stuck inside this tank, there just isn't enough to go around.

Also, just a note that you may want to consider: .50 cal and 12.7mm are the same thing. The .50 cal BMG round is also known as the 12.7x99mm NATO. Different names, exact same bullet.

I thought I adjusted the side armor to be 30% of the front armor. Must have mislooked it :rolleyes: I'll change it.

The enormous amount of secondary armenant is mainly for the AMPD Suite. Not all the guns are suppose to be manned. Most of the guns are usually under control of the AMPD Suite so manning them isn't the problem. But ammo amount is I see. I could increase it but then it will be less mobile and heavier. So I'll cut back on some.

Ah, didn't know that mate. Thanks a bunch :)

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On behalf of the Freudotopian Imperial Army (FIA), I would like to place an order for one (1) SPM-192 main battle tank. The total price of the purchase comes to 17 million USD. Money will be wired automatically upon confirmation of order. Thank you for your business.

--Colonel Edgar Doolittle, Director of Procurement, FIA.

Your order is confirmed and it will arrive in a couple of days. Thank You for your services.

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S.U., quit bumping and reply to my telegram.

S.U., quit bumping and reply to my telegram.

hehehe. I did reply to your telegram :)

I never got it, I'll clear out my inbox then and try again.

I never got it, I'll clear out my inbox then and try again.

I'll resend. :)

Aequito:

Check your TGs now. I'll be there now hopefully :)

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recieves plans, mass produces tank, uses tank against it's very own designers

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Okay could you not liter my thread with junk. Or I'll have to report you to the mod. Thank You :)

:( sry. just trying to have some fun. i'm not on much, as you can see

:( sry. just trying to have some fun. i'm not on much, as you can see


Thats okay. :)

Why don't you join an RP? If you can't find one I intend to create on shortly this week that you can join. But you will have to actually RP so just read some of the stickies. Hope that helps :)

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