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Kzakh Provinces Army Structure - Feedback!

Kazakh Provinces
18-06-2005, 16:26
Hey dudes/dudettes!

I've been around for a while as various nations (undisclosed), but as KP I wanted to take my first crack at making an organised military I can keep track of, and is structured. I have pieced together an Excel document, and have made some quite nice figures. I just wanted to see your views on my troop organisation.

Basic Army Structure:

1 Division: 6 Battalions
1 Battalion: 6 Brigades
1 Brigade: 6 Regiments
1 Regiment: 6 Platoons
1 Platoon: 6 Squads
1 Squad: 6 Soldiers in 3 Fireteams

1 Platoon: 36 personnel
1 Regiment: 6 Platoons: 216 personnel
1 Brigade: 6 Regiments: 1296 personnel
1 Battalion: 6 Brigades: 7776 personnel
1 Division: 6 Battalions: 46656 personnel

Note: These figures are purely for combat personnel. 45% of army figure are Logistics Personnel, 50% are combat and 5% are staff.

Generally, for Infantary, Organic Fire Support Weapons are filtered in at Regimental level. This means that of the 6 platoons:

2 have Mortar and GPMG Fire Support
2 have AT and GPMG Fire Support
2 have with AA and GPMG Fire Support

Generally, for Infantary, Heavy Weapons are filtered in at Brigade level. This means that of the 6 Regiments:

2 have Heavy Artillery Support (non-self propelled)
2 have Anti Tank Support (AT Guns and Heavy AT Missiles)
2 have Anti Air Support (non-self propelled)

Note: This is the same for Engineer and Mountain Divisions, they just have lighter and more specialised heavy or fire support weapons.

From here, Divisions are just built up. Generally, Brigades are the building blocks of the Army, as you seldom see Regiments being deployed on their own.

Logistics and Supply Structure:

This is hardly different at all from Regular Army Structure. However, at Brigade level:

2 Regiments are Supply (roles such as Drivers and Supply Organisers)
2 Regiments are Logistics (cooks, medical staff, clerks and the like)
2 Regiments are Other Tasks (everything else e.g. recruitment)

After this, Brigades are assigned to Regular Army Brigades on a 1:2 ratio, with the other "unused" Brigades handling supply bases and the like. This means that Regular and Logistics Brigades and Divisions almsot merge, creating a mobile unit that can be deployed anywhere, as a cohesive unit. This also means that the supply unit itself can transport the Regular Unit using its vehicles, i.e. trucks and jeeps.

(OOC: I am really proud to be one of the first nations I know of to have properly structured even supply units.)

Armored Divisions Structure:

This is the most complicated part of the command structure, as Armored Divisions actually have Tanks and other vehicles. This means that a meticulous record must be kept of all vehciles, which requires a good command structure:

1 Regiment:
9 Command "Staff" Tanks
24 Main Battle Tanks
12 Light Battle Tanks
9 Self Propelled Artillery Piece

1 Brigade:
52 Command "Staff Tanks"
124 Main Battle Tanks
48 Light Battle Tanks
36 Self Propelled Artillery Pieces
27 Tank Destroyers
27 Air Defense Vehicles
10 Light Scout Tanks

1 Battalion:
312 Command "Staff" Tanks
744 Main Battle Tanks
288 Light Tanks
216 Self Propelled Artillery Pieces
162 Tank Destroyers
162 Air Defence Vehciles
60 Light Scout Tanks

1 Division:
1872 Command "Staff" Tanks
4464 Main Battle Tanks
1728 Light Tanks
1296 Self Propelled Artillery Pieces
972 Tank Destroyers
972 Air Defence Vehciles
360 Light Scout Tanks

This structure is, however, really hard to manage until Brigade level, and the platoon does not exist. Individual vehicles instead can be dispatched if needs be. Supply elements for Armor are the same as for Infantary, but their vehicles are more Armored and Mechanized, i.e. less trucks.

Army Divisions

1st Infantary Division
Base: Bikanir Army Base
Strength: 100%
Status: Green
Commander: Field Marshal Shepkov

7th Mountain Division
Base: Astana
Strength: 100%
Status: Green
Commander: General Martin

9th Marine Division
Base: Atryau
Strength: 80%
Status: Orange
Commander: General Tanz

1st Para Division
Base: Mismosk
Strength: 100%
Status: Red
Commander: General Smerz

1st Armored Division
Base: Bikanir Army Base
Strength: 100%
Status: Green
Commander: Field Marshal Michaels

6th Mountain Armored Division
Base: Astana
Strength: 80%
Status: Orange
Commander: Lieutenant General Kaddouri

Marine Division Structure:

This is identical to the Infantary structure, but is however more streamlined as they need to be more transportable. Individual Brigades are assigned bost of their own, allowing more freedom of movement. Also, Marine and indeed Infantary Brigades are designed to be directly compatable with Armor Brigades, meaning greatly increased cohesion.

Note:I will add the Air Force Structure and Naval structure later. I jsut NEED feedback at the moment, but not that any small changes even at squad level will change absolutely everything.
Verghastinsel
18-06-2005, 16:47
OOC: You do know that a Battalion is smaller than a Regiment?
Kazakh Provinces
18-06-2005, 17:02
OOC:

Not in this man's army. I tried to be different, hence the exclusion of Companies.
Kazakh Provinces
21-06-2005, 16:51
Feedback guys!
Kazakh Provinces
21-06-2005, 21:54
OOC:

I know I cant spell, but I need some advice and help.
AfrikaZkorps
21-06-2005, 22:29
An interesting system, similar to my nations. Novikov has the most interesting yet to be seen, a squad of a 11. Lol.

Anyways, I think you need to list the amount of divisions in your army.
Kazakh Provinces
22-06-2005, 14:09
Sounds interesting.

Updated with Army figures.
Nascent
22-06-2005, 14:16
There is actually little for anyone to really comment on, because as you have already stated a few posts above, it is your nation and your army so you can essentially structure it any way shape and form you want to.

But, since you are asking, your structure looks alright from where I'm sitting.
Concador
22-06-2005, 14:17
Where did you get your eqipment from. If a storefront, please tell me which, I want to buy some.
Kazakh Provinces
22-06-2005, 14:23
OOC:

I was just wondering if I could make it mroe efficient, or if there were any comments. I am new to this, so if something just wouldn't work, I want to know. I was really concerned about the 6's.

I didn't buy the stuff I've built, I inherited it from a parent nation, and build my own. If you want to buy anything, I can get it from my parent nation. he literally makes everything.
Concador
22-06-2005, 15:57
How much $ did it cost, and who is this nation?
Dostanuot Loj
22-06-2005, 16:15
OOC: I like it. The Structure is "different", and it's always nice to see someone naming their unit structures any way they like. But I do have a suggestion. Decide which structure level will be your main battle deployment (as in Divisions, Regiments, Battalions, whatever), and organise your force round that. Most people use Divisions, but I have mine set to deploy on smaller levels. The way you have it set up now is simmilar to the way a standard army is set up, except you've used Division as the name instead of "Army Group".

Of course, in the end, it depends entirely on what you need to do with it. But at this stage, in that few specialised Divisions, you're looking at the possibility of deploying your only, say, armoured division to one conflict and not having one to fall back on.
So, as such, I would reccomend organising in smaller numbers, or getting more troops and equipment. Uising your structure, creating units at the Brigade, or Battalion level, giving them designations, names, and whatever, and substructering them into the divisions. It makes it much easier when you start deploying forces because you will be able to say "X" Brigade is here, but the rest of "Y" Division is here, except for "A", "B", and "C" Battalions who are over there.
Then again, I'm an organizational nut, and am doing my entire armed forces structure down to the squad level (of 2.5 million people), so my advice may be too much work.
Kazakh Provinces
22-06-2005, 18:02
I organsie it as much as I can, but only at Divisional level. When it comes to conflict, then I will split up divisions and the like.

As for specialised Divisions, as my Army size increases, you should see more and more normal divisions and less specialised divisions, I will dilute them down.
Kazakh Provinces
22-06-2005, 22:25
Bump