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The country of firehelper proudly announces that it has completed a phase shift technology research!

This technology allows us to send bombs through walls and shields and blow things up.

This Tech also allows out soldiers to go through walls and allows most conventional weapons to pass through them.

the operational version is still three years and 20,000,000FFF away though

OOC: Interesting idear, My AIM is East Federation, MSN is ncc2000@gmail.com I"d liek to talk to you a bit.

sorry i dont have msn cant we just talk by tellagram

(OOC: Seems a bit overpowered, (The send "bombs through walls and shields" bit.), but I'd like to arrange a little technology exchange for it... ;) )

what would you like to offer(actuly i would pefer cash for a copy of the prototype blueprints about 10,000,000FFF or 5,000,000USD)

the tech is still 2 years away and we have not aquired the nessasary funding

The Imperium is intrigued, and would like to aid you in co-developing such technology. The Tech Priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus stand ready to aid you in whichever way they can.

(OOC: Seems a bit overpowered


OOC: Sounds like a godmod, IMO; allows them to bypass most defences while making them immune to most weapons.

Mnewer, Capital World of Lord Atum, Ascended Goa’uld ¹

Lord Thoth, a perpetually young man, tall, who wore his black hair in a ponytail, would have been much older, but for the parasite in his neck. As it was, he was once more enduring the downside of this long life, prostrating himself before his Lord and Master, Atum, an ancient goa’uld whose form was shrouded in dark robes of black and faded purple.

“Report,” Atum demanded.

“My lord, a nation of Tar has announced that they have developed the technology to pass solid matter through other solid matter.”

“This is something you have failed to do, is it not?”

“Yes Lord… But I have been busy on refinements to the Kull Warrior energising process.”

The Lord seemed mollified, and commanded his servant to continue. “But they have yet to develop this technology practically. If we were to conquer them now, ² while they are still vulnerable, and take it, our legions could become vastly more fearsome.”

“Very well,” Atum said, “I will dispatch two of my finest motherships³ to conquer them.”

“I am most gratified My Lord.”

“Now, tell me of the progress of my new battleship…”

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Out of Character Comments:
¹ Nope. No powers of any sort. He’s essentially an Anubis clone.
² I have absolutely no intention of taking your nation away or harming your role-play. If ignored, I shall of course, go away, but I feel that I can’t pass up the opportunity to interact with any Stargate nations that appear. If you don’t mind being conquered by the goa’uld, or unsuccessfully invaded, I will point out that this nation is eventually going to be obliterated… I have plans for Atum’s eventual demise…

Either way, Hi, welcome to Nationstates.
³Yes, they have the upgraded shields from Between Two Fires.

OOC: Sounds like a godmod, IMO; allows them to bypass most defences while making them immune to most weapons.

(OOC: I just didn't want to sound mean. It is like a godmod. However, if this sort of capability is not abused, and understood by all who may face it in an RP, then to me, I see no reason this can't be used.

I happen to have a few items that are godmoddish or flat out godmodded, but I relegate them to simple plot devices, and not excuses for why my military can pwn yours or whatever.)

someone could design a de-phaser so then thaey can destroy it

OOC: Generally it helps if you don't use this kind of technology for large scale military purpouses. Though quite capable of making phase-penetrating bombs, this nation (Hi! Same player as Atum, different account) tends to use such technology at most for personal close combat weapons such as swords, as well as occasionally as a form of shielding. Only one military unit, a rare one at that, uses it to pass through solid objects.

Should Atum get hold of it, with typical goa'uld ineptitude, he'll mess it up. That said, the Transphase Eradication Rod of the goa'uld probably qualifies as a dephaser.

OOC: Sounds like a godmod, IMO; allows them to bypass most defences while making them immune to most weapons.

OOC:
Often the key to phase technology is that while you can not hurt them, they can not hurt you either untill the person or bomb in question "phases" back into your time and space. Great technology for assassins not quite as good for WMD. IMO that is. Besides just like any other technology, by the time he or she uses it someone will come up with something like Phase-shift shielding designed to prevent someone from passing through it using the technology. Equal and Opposite reaction.

Ooc: The world of Tollana three will not stand for this
The phase tech was also used In Star Trek


Send the second fleet to defend tar I don’t know who this Is but oh well




Ooc: If you are going to attack me just so you know I have one working prototype , And some new destroyers.(2)(Odin defenders(50) Ra frigates (100)

It is like a godmod. However, if this sort of capability is not abused, and understood by all who may face it in an RP, then to me, I see no reason this can't be used.

I would agree with Kyanges. As long as it is not abused, or made into a mainstream technology, I will acknowledge it. However, any atmtps to do otherwise be be labeled as a godmod and be met with immediate ignores.

Ooc: If you are going to attack me just so you know I have one working prototype , And some new destroyers.(2)(Odin defenders(50) Ra frigates (100)

A hundred frigates? It's that a bit... much... for a nation of your size?

And yes, Atum will attack you. With two goa'uld motherships and attendant fighters etc.

Ooc: The phase tech was also used In Star Trek


OOC:
Ah, well, spatial phasing I'm good for; my FTLi would stop that.

Although my concern was by and large; technologies which requior specific counter-technologies(ie phase-generator / phase-inhibitor) have to be used quite conservitivly, if at all, to avoid godmodding. More for your sake than that of others, as otherwise you'll find yourself being Ignored(tm) often.


As for the "you can not hurt them, they can not hurt you" thing Korgarein mentioned, well, an anti-matter bomb de-phasing inside your a bridge console or your main reactor would be... double-plus ungood. And most folks couldn't do a thing to stop you.

this device would only allow the user to slip into another dimension temporarily, where the solid matter they want to bypass does not exist. Say a 1 metre thick wall is right in front of them, they activate it and simply walk forward 2 metres. When deactivated the same wall would be a metre behind them, the user has effectively gone through the wall.

to do this, they would have to go into subspace, as hyperspace would tear them apart if a tachyon latched on. This can be prevented with sheilds, although subspace is so much easier to tune into anyway (but extended periods in subspace tend to cause mutation)

this might be a good time to mention my Rift Cannons, space craft and vehilce based turrets that fire a small rip in the space plane of reality. This laser-type projectile is absorbed by sheilds, but exists on all three dimensions (subspace (aka the warp), realspace and hyperspace). The result is a weapon highly effective against living and daemon entities, as it damages the subspace presence (or soul) of the target as much as is damages the flesh. The end result leaves them as disfigures as they are insane (if not dead), and could hit troops using your technology even if they were physically in another dimension.

OOC:
As for the "you can not hurt them, they can not hurt you" thing Korgarein mentioned, well, an anti-matter bomb de-phasing inside your a bridge console or your main reactor would be... double-plus ungood. And most folks couldn't do a thing to stop you.

OOC: Very true, But i do like the idea for small groups of foot soldiers, hit squads you might say, working for that "One" Group that just about all nations have at some point.

One group!?

My nation has about 7!

this device would only allow the user to slip into another dimension temporarily, where the solid matter they want to bypass does not exist.

OOC: You could let the inventor describe his own inventions.

this device would only allow the user to slip into another dimension temporarily, where the solid matter they want to bypass does not exist. Say a 1 metre thick wall is right in front of them, they activate it and simply walk forward 2 metres. When deactivated the same wall would be a metre behind them, the user has effectively gone through the wall.

to do this, they would have to go into subspace, as hyperspace would tear them apart if a tachyon latched on. This can be prevented with sheilds, although subspace is so much easier to tune into anyway (but extended periods in subspace tend to cause mutation)

this might be a good time to mention my Rift Cannons, space craft and vehilce based turrets that fire a small rip in the space plane of reality. This laser-type projectile is absorbed by sheilds, but exists on all three dimensions (subspace (aka the warp), realspace and hyperspace). The result is a weapon highly effective against living and daemon entities, as it damages the subspace presence (or soul) of the target as much as is damages the flesh. The end result leaves them as disfigures as they are insane (if not dead), and could hit troops using your technology even if they were physically in another dimension.


There are aproxomatly eleventeen bazillion different types of hyperspace and subspace, and, in general, the only thing seperating the two groups is the name.

Additionally, hypospace is generally the opposite of hyperspace; ie, where hyperspace is 'up' along a certain spatial axis, hypospace is 'down'. Generally.

One group!?

My nation has about 7!

Yes but most have at least one. Enough of this topic Though, we are cluttering his thread with irrelevant material.

OOC: You could let the inventor describe his own inventions.
OOC: This phase cloaking device was used in an episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation. " The The enterprise D was trapped inside an astroid while looking for an old abanonded ship which contained the phasing generator and cloaking device. The ship was able to use it to escape and surpirse the romulans. BEcause of a treaty which exists in the Star Trek universe, it had to be put out of service even though it was seen only once. The main problem is that we only saw it for one episode. And it was never explained what made it work, or how it worked. Or the type of power needed. Or the amount of power it needed.

We find your news interesting, we have posessed a similar technology for some time. in fact our defensive sheild research began as a device to prevent phase-shifted projectiles from escaping firing range boundaries. unfortunalty, it was discovered that, instead of disruping shift-feilds, it would keep them from degrading, the end result is such weapons have an almost spooky way of appearing to pass directly through sheilded objects like they didn't exist.

OOC: Then there was the phase shift technology from Andromeda which worked by creating minature tessarects, via a tessarect generator.

OOC: There were accually two ships in Star Trek: TNG that had Phase-cloaking technology. The Obirth class Federation vessel that East Coast Federation mentioned and then there was a failed attempt by a Romulan science vessel as well in an episode that caused two of the Enterprises crew as well as a Romulan Crewman to Phase out of the normal plane of exsistance. But again as ECF pointed out there was very little explanation of the technology.

OOC1: i can have one hundred freigates in storage and withdeaw them when needed but i do not have the manpower or the money to matain them for more then a year

OOC2: Also mensioned in startrek enterprise was a faild kilinon attempt. Also in stargate SG-1 a acended anubis phased through walls, and the Tollan (thats my regon) developed phase shifting technology for wepons and a means of transoprt.

OOc3: in the epesode when the 2 enterprise members were out of phase with the rest gordi said that they used a clocking device with a phase inducer or something so it would have run of regular thenergy from the fusion reactors

OOC2: Also mensioned in startrek enterprise was a faild kilinon attempt. Also in stargate SG-1 a acended anubis phased through walls, and the Tollan (thats my regon) developed phase shifting technology for wepons and a means of transoprt.

OOc3: in the epesode when the 2 enterprise members were out of phase with the rest gordi said that they used a clocking device with a phase inducer or something so it would have run of regular thenergy from the fusion reactors

OOC:
Response to OOC2: I didn't know that eh Klingons attempted it as well. And i had a feeling that the technology was based on the Tollan design. It sounded more like the SG1 Description then the ST phase cloaking system.

Response to OOC3: Being a Romulan ship that caused the Phase in Gordi and the others, The Romulans use a Artifical singularity-drive warp core/ Also called a Quantum Singularity-drive warp core, which i believe has a higher output then federation designs. But then again the attemp did fail so i guess it doesnt matter.

it technicly did work because there were three people phased out

it technicly did work because there were three people phased out

OOC:
True, But im not sure if mistakes count as working. Considering the perpose of the technology was to phase-cloak the ship, and it nearly blew up the vessel. I dont think i would count that as being a success.

OOC: This phase cloaking device was used in an episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation. " The The enterprise D was trapped inside an astroid ...

Yes. I know, better than you actually. Phase-shifting technology first appeared in The Next Generation in an earlier episode called "The Next Phase" which featured a Romulan science vessel with an 'interphasic cloak generator.' "The Pegasus", the episode to which you reffer, was indeed later, though the Pegasus' interphasic cloaking device was, with typical TNG+ absurdity, developed by the Federation first. Not that it worked too well.

It is indeed, as usual, not an idea that Star Trek came up with first either. Murray Leinster had it first - in 1934!

This doesn't change the fact that, being a stock piece of sci-fi tech (hint, Paramount haven't sued other sci-fi programmes, such as Stargate, for making extensive use of the idea) in no small part because the concept is far older than Star Trek. It would be rather considerate to let Firehelper explain how his own version works.

Hmmmmph, we've had that technology in Fan Grenwick for years and just didn't want anyone else to know.

very well, pehaps there is need for an international agreement covering phase-shift technology.

The Tollana System, some days later

A hard, angular looking goa'uld by the name of Anouke watched over the preparations in the bowels of the lead ha'tak with the exprt eye of a fanatic. The three things Anouke loved were power, conquest, and destruction. Not in that order. She therefore spent most of the trip in the depths of the ship, demanding the highest quality from the thousands of jaffa warriors aboard. Slackers were excecuted, the dedicated were... promoted.

The chamber she was supervising was home to hundreds of heavy and light staff cannons, all of which were undergoing maintainance and tuning. She could see technicians playing about with the stacked silicon energy relays under the weapons casings, and was instructing them where appropriate, when the communications system annonced that the vessels had arrived in the fringe of the star system occupied by the Tollan...

Tollana Defence center

Message to all worlds
we are in need of reenforcemnts!
end message


Mobalize all ground troops and space defence(the space defence system is 25% completed and can only produce a massive one way sheild

Get ready to destroy all recerch if the defence fails and prepare for emergance evacuation to another world via stargate or ship


OOC: if you watched the last few epesodes of stargate SG-1 you will notice that the free jaffa nation was founded and they took the temple at dakkara

the gelflandii scout ship entered the system near the main planet, legrange jumps were always risky, especially in uncharted systems.the pilot mapped the area, and transmitted the data to the rest of the fleet, she then landed on the planet for the second phase of her mission.

A soldier comes in...
Sir there has been a un scheduled landing of a spacecefet in a unchated area it aperes to be a scout ship i presume that there is a spy.

Ok initiate emergancey lockdown and martial law
If anyone is sppoted without clearance your orders are to shoot them