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ROACH-BUSTERS
2005 ELECTION!!!!!


The parties' positions. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9050097&postcount=24)

I assume everyone knows Generalissimo J.L. and Chia Neng Lee's positions, but if not, please don't hesitate to ask.

That said, let the election begin!

To all candidates of the Roach Busters election:

I, the God-Emperor of the Dominion, would offer a 20-man team of Transylvanian Army men to guard any of the candidates. Contact me, if you want to have them guard you. Plus, I will donate 10 million to each candidate from my own bank. Use it how every you want to.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

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To all candidates of the Roach Busters election:

Like the God-Emperor, I will offer all of my agents to act as bodyguards to the candidates. Each one will have a different payment plan. Contact me, if you need a top rated bodyguard.

~ Darien Jones (http://www.freewebs.com/transylvaniaagency/Darien%20Jones.JPG), the man behind the Agency

To all candidates of the Roach Busters election:

I, the God-Emperor of the Dominion, would offer a 20-man team of Transylvanian Army men to guard any of the candidates. Contact me, if you want to have them guard you. Plus, I will donate 10 million to each candidate from my own bank. Use it how every you want to.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

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To all candidates of the Roach Busters election:

Like the God-Emperor, I will offer all of my agents to act as bodyguards to the candidates. Each one will have a different payment plan. Contact me, if you need a top rated bodyguard.

~ Darien Jones (http://www.freewebs.com/transylvaniaagency/Darien%20Jones.JPG), the man behind the Agency

You may send the bodyguards, but no money, please.

-a random poll judge

You may send the bodyguards, but no money, please.

-a random poll judge

You're telling me, the God-Emperor of the Dominion, not to sent money. I'm sending 10 million each to everyone of the candidate. It is not like I'm just sending it to one or two. I'm sending it to all of them. One more thing, how in the hell did you get this message. This message was address to the candidates not your dumbass. Are you a spy or hacker or something?

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

OOC: RB, I did address to the candidates. Plus, read your civil war thread. I'm waiting for you to post something.

The Reunited States supports J.L. as President.

The Technocratic Republic of Space Union along with me, personally, support our dear friend J.L in his bid for presidency. May he serve his people with pride and dignity. But we already know that he will.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

I feel that it would be best if I declared support for no candidate, though I wish them all luck in this most important election. Also, my offer for election observers and guards for the candidates still stands.

Emperor Dayan Saarad

OOC: Personally, Dayan supports J.L., but he can't say that because most of the citizens of Malkyer strongly dislike J.L. because of his suppresive autocracy. Also, a question: if J.L. wins the election, would he become authoritarian again, or become an actual democratic leader?

VOTE CHIA NENG LEE

He's way ahead in the polls at the moment and President Lee is the legitimate ruler of RB, he is the ONLY candidate who has what it takes for the job!

I see no Moralist party, this election is obviously a sham.

Emperor Tobias
Grand Chancellor of Farmina

:sniper: i've just killed Generalissimo J.L.

I feel that it would be best if I declared support for no candidate, though I wish them all luck in this most important election. Also, my offer for election observers and guards for the candidates still stands.

Emperor Dayan Saarad

OOC: Personally, Dayan supports J.L., but he can't say that because most of the citizens of Malkyer strongly dislike J.L. because of his suppresive autocracy. Also, a question: if J.L. wins the election, would he become authoritarian again, or become an actual democratic leader?

(OOC: The latter. In fact, he would be a figure head, sort of like a constitutional monarch.)

:sniper: i've just killed Generalissimo J.L.
*Nuke*
I just nuked Arlona!

Green Sun thinks supporting the National Conservative Party to be the best idea.

Communist Louisiana supports Hillary Suzman of the Liberal Republican Party. We also would like to ask all other communist nations vote Suzman.

Communist Louisiana supports Hillary Suzman of the Liberal Republican Party. We also would like to ask all other communist nations vote Suzman.

If elected, I plan to legalize the RB Communist Party.

-Hillary Suzman

The PID has asked the Pacitalian Central Intelligence Commission to investigate those nations voting for Chia Neng Lee, and provide my subcommittee with pertinent information on those countries, especially the suspiciously high numbers of "-stan" countries, to ensure that this election is still free and fair under the guidelines set.

Dr. Fairuza al-Moutan Kareli, D.Ps.
Chairperson, PID-CDRB

OOC: Most of the nations that voted for Lee are puppets of Saharistan. It kind of is a give away :rolleyes: I think you should only keep Saharistan's vote not the others.

The Religious Commonwealth of Jagada casts its support for the Generalissimo. For we see no other respectable canidates to support.

Allegations of Vote Rigging in Roach-Busters - Is Democracy Off to a False Start?

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"IPBC has recently received word that Praetonian inspectors in Roach-Busters, currently overseeing the first elections to be held them in some decades, are not currently satisfied that the vote is proceeding in a fair manner. Some officials have been quoted off the record demanding that the elections be halted and a re-vote be held, but so far these calls have not been supported by an official source. The leader of the Praetonian inspection team, Sir Tiber Gregorus, has released the following statement:

'We have been receiving sporadic reports of voter intimidation and obstruction being perpetrated by hard-line Roach-Busterian subjects throughout the day, but the main concern we have is that the electoral role appears to have been tampered with. We are seeing thousands of people listed who don't appear to have any fixed address or even exist as far as we can gather, and it appears even at this early stage that there is a concerted effort to skew the result in favour of the encumbant military dictator, the self-styled President Lee.'

"When question on the likely verdict of his team's report on the Roach-Buster elections, Sir Gregorus replied:

'If our investigations prove conclusive, which they have so far, we are not prepared to endorse the result of this election as being a fair and accurate representation of the true wishes of the Roach-Buster people. If an adequate explanation cannot be delivered soon, we will have no choice but to declare the result of the elections unsafe.'

"With Praetonian forces still marching in Roach-Busters, the Government has been hesitant to comment. Our reporters did, however, manage to garner the following statement from sources close to the Minister of Defence, Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP:

'No course of action has yet been decided for certain should the inspectors return a verdict of an unsafe election. On the other hand, we do not hesitate to warn potentially lax Roach-Busterian election officials that the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia is still technically at war with the aggrevious President Lee and his Government, and if he is returned as the result of an unsafe election then we will continue to refuse to recognise the legitimacy of his rule.'

"Speculation is rife that Praetonian troops, working alongside the Hogsweatian Navy, are preparing to land near the Roach-Buster capital of RB City should the election turn out to be rigged. The Government has, of course, vehemently denied that any specific plans are in motion but has also refused to rule anything out.

"In the next few hours and days, we could see the making or breaking of a nation. If a true Roach-Busterian free state could arise from the elections then it appears to be the Government's intention to provide Roach-Busters with every assistance Praetonia can afford. If the election turns out to be nothing more than a rigged attempt at distracted Praetonian and allied forces from their aims, then invasion is still very much on the cards."

Algeristan']VOTE CHIA NENG LEE

He's way ahead in the polls at the moment and President Lee is the legitimate ruler of RB, he is the ONLY candidate who has what it takes for the job!

Address to the whole world:

Don't believe what to this idiot of a world leader is telling you. Lee was the acting president not the real president. J.L. is the legitimate ruler of RB. Mr. what ever your name is, get your damn facts straight before you said some dumb like that. Lee is a manic, who about let RB become nothing. Lee does not need to be in power of a fast food joint. I, the God-Emperor of the Dominion, will back my good friend J.L. in these elections. God bless you, J.L.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

OOC: Hey [NS]Algeristan, don’t take the idiot part like it was insult to you, the player. That was IC insult to your leader.

OOC: Most of the nations that voted for Lee are puppets of Saharistan. It kind of is a give away :rolleyes: I think you should only keep Saharistan's vote not the others.

OOC: Or should we get the mods to check which one are puppets then have those votes took out, if they can.

OOC: Or should we get the mods to check which one are puppets then have those votes took out, if they can.
[OOC: YOu dont need to. Of all of the votes for JL, I recognise about 90%. Of all of the votes for Lee I recognise about 15%. Of all the votes for the others I recognise about 95%. As it stands, JL is winning but Lee should be coming last. In any case, he wont win. RB can just make a statement that he investigated the vote fraud and it turned out that Lee has to be disqualified.]

[OOC: YOu dont need to. Of all of the votes for JL, I recognise about 90%. Of all of the votes for Lee I recognise about 15%. Of all the votes for the others I recognise about 95%. As it stands, JL is winning but Lee should be coming last. In any case, he wont win. RB can just make a statement that he investigated the vote fraud and it turned out that Lee has to be disqualified.]

OOC: Okay, thanks for saying that because I or the Count don't like Lee. The Count started the civil war in the Dominion because the king of that year was running the nation like a mad man. Now, it looks like everybody does love J.L. :p

OOC: Okay, thanks for saying that because I or the Count don't like Lee. The Count started the civil war in the Dominion because the king of that year was running the nation like a mad man. Now, it looks like everybody does love J.L. :p
They dont. It's just that of all the people who support JL ALL of them will vote for him. THe people who dont want him will have had their votes split between the other 4 parties. JL probably doesnt have a majority even when you remove Lee's votes, so he wont take control of RB's Parliament. It'll be a coalition thing.

The following nations' votes will be discounted until they can prove they are not puppets, and that they are individual nations. Any nations who voted for the same candidate once with their main nation, then again with their puppet, will have their puppet vote discounted. The only exception will be if a puppet voted for a different candidate than the main nation.

For now, the following votes for Chia Neng Lee will be discounted until proof can be given to the PID and the other various observant groups of this election:

Rabatistan, Arabistania, [NS]Algeristan, [NS]Sance, Saharistan, Gayboyorgies, Zahrain, Qataristan, Caprovia, Zero one real, Dophoopy, Lurrainia, Arlona and Polondania. This constitutes about 85% of the nations who have voted for Lee. We expect only around 15-25% of this list to have the ability to claim their (OOC: independence, of sorts).

Dr. Fairuza al-Moutan Kareli, D.Ps.
Chairperson, PID-CDRB

I assume everyone knows Generalissimo J.L. and Chia Neng Lee's positions, but if not, please don't hesitate to ask.



What are their views?

OOC: I think taht sorta thing is up to RB.

OOC: Or should we get the mods to check which one are puppets then have those votes took out, if they can.

Yeah I think so too. They can keep one of the nations vote but not the puppets. Lets see what RB has to say.

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[OOC: Shouldnt that be OOC? Or is RB actually ICly having his government voted in by other countries rather than his people, which makes no sense and isnt democracy anyway :/.]

OOC: This is what is guarding each candidates but J.L. because GE said he was in his nation.

20 men from the 37th Roach Busters (There are in RB right now, so I thought I would use them.)
Colors: Dark Red and Navy
Equipment:
One AR-56 assault rifle
One PHX Hi-Power 10mm pistol
Transylvanian Body Armor (Look at my fact book to see the picture.)

The following nations' votes will be discounted until they can prove they are not puppets, and that they are individual nations. Any nations who voted for the same candidate once with their main nation, then again with their puppet, will have their puppet vote discounted. The only exception will be if a puppet voted for a different candidate than the main nation.

For now, the following votes for Chia Neng Lee will be discounted until proof can be given to the PID and the other various observant groups of this election:

Rabatistan, Arabistania, [NS]Algeristan, [NS]Sance, Saharistan, Gayboyorgies, Zahrain, Qataristan, Caprovia, Zero one real, Dophoopy, Lurrainia, Arlona and Polondania. This constitutes about 85% of the nations who have voted for Lee. We expect only around 15-25% of this list to have the ability to claim their (OOC: independence, of sorts).

Dr. Fairuza al-Moutan Kareli, D.Ps.
Chairperson, PID-CDRB


Axis Nova protests this most unfair vote manipulation, and points out that the burden of proof is on the electoral judges to prove that these nations are puppets, not the nations themselves!

Axis Nova protests this most unfair vote manipulation, and points out that the burden of proof is on the electoral judges to prove that these nations are puppets, not the nations themselves!
[OOC: Stop talking as if it's actually nations voting IC. RB isnt having his president elected by other countries, but by his people (otherwise it isnt a "democratic" election, is it?). It would show up IC as vote tampering etc etc.]

OOC: Ah, I misunderstood what was going on.

OOC: Ah, I misunderstood what was going on.

OOC: No problem, AN. This poll really doesn't count for anything, but it gives a clear impression of foreign attitudes toward RB. We still just want to make sure there's no manipulation of that attitude. Any unfair puppetwank-voting given to the guy most likely to not follow through with democracy after risking his neck in an election once will give RB ammo to stay a dictatorship and drag this thing on for even longer.

We throw our support behind the Liberal Republican Party




Minister of Foreign Relations
Alexander William Rogers

Official Government Response
We are very pleased that our fellow ally Roach-Busters is participating in a fully legal and democratic vote! We currently throw our support behind the Liberal Republican Party, believing it is what is best for Roach-Busters. We pray that democracy reigns supreme and what's best for Roach-Busters becomes a reality.
Signed,
Chancellor Tinverian

The government of Manhattan Prime supports the Progressive Democratic Party.

What are their views?

Chia Neng Lee: ultra right-wing, almost fascist. Favors a massive military, an all-pervasive police force, and a well-funded secret police force. Favors an extremely authoritarian, anti-communist, autocratic state with severely restricted social and political freedoms. However, he is extremely libertarian when it comes to economic issues. He ardently supports Shooban slavery, as well.

Chia Neng Lee: ultra right-wing, almost fascist. Favors a massive military, an all-pervasive police force, and a well-funded secret police force. Favors an extremely authoritarian, anti-communist, autocratic state with severely restricted social and political freedoms. However, he is extremely libertarian when it comes to economic issues. He ardently supports Shooban slavery, as well.
How is he different from J.L., then? Or has J.L. changed recently? (Sorry, not paid attention to RB threads in a while)