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The Sathanas class juggernaut flew over the World Ship towards the massive Shivan armada that had been forming the last several weeks. The armada had been being built over the last half century for one purpose, the destruction of humans. This Clan of Shivans was the remnants of the last Shivan incursion. Suns had been novaed, planets and moons destroyed, and millions of humans had been killed but in the end the Shivans had been defeated. The defeat was because they had underestimated the Humans and that they were massively out numbered these were mistake they wouldn’t make this time. They would gather allies to aid in their Great crusade, but first the old allies had to be contacted. A probe shot into hyperspace towards the Imperium of Wiseone, carrying orders to prepare their fleet and to try and gather allies.


[B]OOC Just so you know before you enter this Rp I don’t want anyone whining if one of their systems gets novaed or a planet gets destroyed. Also Subspace shields will be used, there are ways to get past them just check threads from the first Shivan war for ideas, you obviously cant use this tech in the first few battles[B]

Interesting. Trying to start another Shivan War, are we? Tag.

yay shivans, brush off the dust of the HyperSpace Tear Weapons. Its time to hunt so Lucifers with there poxie subspace sheilds.

Tho i did just complete Freespace 2

TAG.

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Two smalller fleets broke off from the armada and headed into subspace. They were headed for The Dark Empire of Corpsac's systems. One headed for Golden Way where mercenaries would aid in the fighting, the other headed for Sol II. An allies fleet would head for Mechlon. With these three simultaneous strikes Corpsac would be crippled and knocked out of the war completely.

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Golden Way

The fleet came out of subspace and began disgourging fighters and making a wedge formation with the Lucifer class Super Destroyer taking point.

Golden Way Fleet

1 Lucifer
8 Sathanas
10 Iblis
20 Ravannas
35 Demons
45 Molochs


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Sol II

The fleet came out of subspace and moved into a broadside line formation, facing Corpsacs defences and deployed all fighters.

Sol II Fleet

2 Lucifers
12 Sathanas
15 Iblis
25 Ravannas
45 Demons
65 Molochs

Wiseone sensors pick up the probe as it enters Wiseone space, within minutes it is collected by a patrol craft and the contents are sent to the hivemind.

Our former employers have returned and are again requesting our assistance, we shall of course oblidge them, in this probe are orders to attack The Mechlon System in a simultaneous assault on Corpsac. Move a task force of assault ships into the Mechlon System.
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Mechlon System

In the space high above the Mechlon System's central star the Wiseone task force emerged from subspace and spread itself out over the habitable planets just out of the planet's defensive weapon ranges, with weapons trained on the Mechlon Defence Fleet.

Mechlon System Fleet

1 custom Sathanis, 20 kilometers long with 8 claw like projections in the front instead of the standard 4 with Finger Of God beam cannons on each claws tip, it is shielded and propelled by dovan basils which are plated all over the ship's hull. It also has subspace shields

2 lucifers
5 Executor Super Star Destroyers
15 sathanis
35 Imperial Star Destroyers Mark II
35 Demons
35 Ravanas
50 Liliths
50 Molochs

Sol II

Moments after the Shivan fleet jumps into Sol II, the Mercenary group Zombie Squadron drops out of hyperspace into Sol II. Immediately, the thousands of fighter crafts race into battle against the CorpSac forces, pulse cannons blazing and missiles flying...


Zombie Squadron Alpha through Gamma Wings
13,000 Assorted Starfighters (Heavy Assualt, Fast Attack, Bombers, Captial Ship Killers, etc)

Golden Way

Following the Shivans, a Dashro Military Class Battleship came out of subspace. Several small ships and three big ones detached and formed around it.

The Battleship Hide and Seek
3 Nockro Boarding Cruisers
15 Small Fighters

Sol II

The old system of the Empire, long dead since the last shivan war. All that remained was a small Milltary outpost and few defences, the outpost dateing back to the shivan war was old but had one advantage. Hyperspace tear torpedos and the old Mobile Hyperspace tear cannon, long since left in the system for fear of any form of attack on the mining base below on the planet of Sol II Prime.

"Command we have incoming Subspace portals opening, Shivan sir." someone shouted to the commander who was half asleep.
"what? hang on WHAT?" he said wakening up fully, "comms, contact Space Core Command inform them of the shivans and this attack. Tactical send all fighters and prep the bombers with Hyperspace Tear bombs, god dam it". The commander moved here as a favor with only 1 year befor retierment it was the perfect place to be.

A swarm of Fighters poured out of the Outpost, the old Cannon moved to target the Shivan Lucifer.

As more ships jumped in all Corpsacians new they were dead. The fighters clashed some made it others died within the first 2 seconds, it was all hell.

"201st fighter wing down" a person shouted.
"300th bomber wing dead" another said.

More and more reports just like them came into the commander, they all knew what was about to happen.

The cannon charged, firing just at the last moment as wave after wave of bombers and fighters hit it. The Bolt flew towards the Lucifer imploding within 2Km of the beast, Riping real space open into hyperspace. The Blackhole like thing sucked in all, anything with in 5Km was dead as the Gravity force was that of a 1000 suns. Even when the shivans destroys the station at lest they would know they took down some of them with them.

The battle last little over an hour, torpedo after torpedo fired, some guned down others going off corse. The station bearly lasted what most stations of the modarn Empire would consider a normal attack.
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Mechlon System

The long dead system, the gravyard of the dead as it was now known as. none of the planets left after being mined by the Planet Eaters, the sun in its last years of life. Used for these days for waste, dead ships and other things not wanted. The system had been empty for years, any decent intel would have told anyone that.

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Golden System

The golden system, ex tradeing Grond of the DArk Empire. Died 6 months ago after a supernova wiped out the system, rumered to be a rebal force playing with nova bombs. The amazing thing was the formation of a rather large blackhole and the vary large nebula surrounding it in a form of orbit.

Little was here, and hell would be played apon all ship systems. Massive EMP fields and storms happened in the nebula, the worst place to jump into if you didnt know your way round.

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Space Core Command

The words shivan sparked massive shock, in the first time in years the entire Grand Armada was called apon. Now alot larger then the last time the Shivans attack, totaling 6 high fleets totaling 750 ships with Hyperspace engines and 4 Colonial High Fleets with a total of 500 with out hyperspace engines.This was nothing compared to the countless fighters in the empire, and the Real Barrior that protected the fallen cluster (a 5 ly radios Cluster of 12 systems).

Grand Admiral Valkyrie looked round the table of Admirals and rear admirals. "ladys and gentlemen, 2 hours ago we recived a message from the sol II system. It reports that Shivans are back, the Outpost there didnt make it and all forces were wiped out. The hyperspace Jump gate destroyed it self so we know that the Shivans cant get into the Fallen cluster." he cleared his throut "as you know the Empress passed Imperial Order A142 of the Fallen Agreement to activate the Grand Armada, along with the Space Marine chapters and the Space Marine Chapter fleets of a total of 875 combat ships. We have a total of 2125 combat ships more then we need to combat the shivans, but we can never underestermate them last time we did that we lost over 60% of our population and empire and that was the last shivan war." he sat down as the holo Tac map poped up with a map of the cluster with named systems includeing Sol II, Golden and mechlon outside the cluster. "We know that the shivan and allies have entered the Golden and Mechlon systems, lucky for us lost to us. Sol II outpost and mining base was wiped out we think, but not competely shore. We prodict that the shivans will attept to jump into our space but will end up just inside our borders, with the real barrior in place they will have to make the rest of the trip in Sub light speed. it 2 Light years to the nearest system around most of the cluster, apart from at Kell were its just under 3 weeks traval at sublight. Kayla commander of the Clone Invasion force, carrying 250 Ships and the entire Clone Army has been ordered to wait for futher orders but traval to Imperial Space. the Stigmata are currently working on finding out where the shivans are operating and thats what the CIF will be ordered to attack, but in the mean time they will be heading here, arriveing in 2 weeks." he looked round, "the orders of the fleet are to reinforce Kell with the 5th and 7th Fleets and the 2nd Colonial Fleet who will transport the 1st Colonial Marine army. Also all ships are allowed to use Hyperspace tear weapons, as we speak a knew MHSTC is being built, the DESC Collosus but it will be atlest 12 months befor thats completed. you have your orders good luck and my the empiress eyes watch over you."

OOC:my empires changed alot since the last shivan war mate.

OOC: CorpSac, my mercs were signed up with him but he's asked us to do something we won't, would you like some help against these guys, the Honorverse awaits your request.(or DT, or Rogerverse, or Aldenata, or any of the other techbases I use depending on what people are willing to accept)

OOC: if you want to help me shore, dont mean you will be allowed to use the hyperspace Gateway system into the cluster. only allies that i know and trust may do that.

Sol II
The black hole created by the Hyperspace tear cannon sucked in the Lucifer 1 Sathanas and several destroyers. What remained of the Corpsacian forces were quickly destroyed. The simultaneous attack had been a failure, but not because of a defeat but because they hadn't sent scouts, if they had they would have known the three formerly properous systems were now empty and barren. The fleets would have to regroup and find The Dark Empires inhabited systems.

Transmission to all Allied forces

All fleets are to come to the Sol II system, there we will prepare to launch another attack. More foces are being called in to help us hold this system.

End Transmission

Another fleet broke off from the Shivan Armada this one much larger than the other two. It headed for the Sol II system.

OOC
Ships lost

1 Lucifer
1 Sathanas
6 Demons
4 Ravannas
7 Molochs

ooc> I had a nice post written, but being as how this forum to retarded, it logged me off and I lost everything I wrote. An hour and a half down the drain. Try not to go too far, I plan on re-writing it once I stop punching things...

((When did Shivans ever send transmissions or call for allies... It was one of those races that were 'destroy everything in their way and not speak' types.))

((When did Shivans ever send transmissions or call for allies... It was one of those races that were 'destroy everything in their way and not speak' types.))

OOC In the last Shivan war mercenaries were hired they've been hired in this war as well.


IC In Sol II the Shivan fleet from Golden Way arrived followed soon after by the fleet of reinforcements, which included a Nirvana space station that would act as the command station for the fleet attacking Corpsac. An Iblis class carrier, two Demons, and four Molochs jumped into subspace to scout the nearest Corpsdacian system, known as Kell. A valuable lesson had been learned in the recent strike. Most systems would now be scouted before assaults.

The Scouting fleet was pulled out of hyperspace prematurely. The fleet sent a message to Sol II telling them that there was a barrier that prevented them from jumping to subspace. The fleet continued to move toward the Kell system at sublight speed.

Shivan fleet at Sol II

1 Nirvana
1 Diablo
4 Lucifers
39 Sathanas
45 Iblis
90 Ravannas
115 Demons
148 Molochs


OOC Corpsac could a knossus portal allow entry into the Cluster

OOC: if you want to help me shore, dont mean you will be allowed to use the hyperspace Gateway system into the cluster. only allies that i know and trust may do that.

Does this work along the same premise as my Gateway Network? (Which has been around since the AoN was formed. lol)

Anyways, this post will be a far-cry from what I had written before, so bare with me.

ic> Supreme Space Marshal James Harper, now in his mid-40's, had been in command of the Top-Secret Weapons division for 20 years. Though he wasn't around when these projects started, he was now overseeing such things as the Necron Project and the Warp Fortress. Nothing interesting had been brought to his attention for quite some time. This was all about to change. A wayward Patroll Destroyer had detected a movement of a very old enemy; the Shivans. The Destroyer was on a patroll mission within all but abandoned areas of Corpsac Space. This was a common practice since Kalgar married Corpsac's Empress, thus joining the two nations together.

The Shivan force was heading into the Sol II sytem. The High Marshal first relayed the message to the Gronde high command. However, it would take far too long for an official order to be given, so Harper decided to take action on his own. His rank did allow for a certain ammount of freedom.

The Patroll Destroyer, now cloaked, moved in closer, into the system's interior, to investigate.

The battle was already over. Whatever Corpsac forces there had been wiped out. More Shivan forces were massing in the system.

The destroyer was ordered to relay the coordinates of the main Shivan formation to the Warp Fortress. The Warp Fortress's main weapon, the Mass Energery Teleporter (MET) was already on standby because of a drill that was about to commence. It was twice as powerfull as it used to be. Using the coordinates given, the Warp Fortress teleported a massive ball of energy and plasma to the coordinates provides, but far enough away to be outside of any FTLi the fleet might possess. The planet sized mass of energy was then hurled into the Shivan fleet at an angle to hit as many ships as possible. It had been tested to destroy just about any ships hit by it full force. Meanwhile, the destroyer made its leave. Even though it was cloaked, it did not want to give the enemy a chance to detect it. It made a pass at the star, awaiting an order that may or may not be given. The Shivans would soon pay for attacking the Dark Empire, and inadvertantly, Gronde.


Top-secret IC>


Encrypted message to: DE High Command
From: Supreme Marshal James Harper

I have already heard about the Shivan attack on your system of Sol II. I have already taken action but I need to ask your permission to make the star go supernova. This is normally not an accepted tactic, but there are no civilian lives left to be lost and no investment left to protect. I do not want to allow the enemy this base of operations. With your consent, I can stall the Shivan invasion long enough for you to prepare a defence or counter-attack.

Sol II

Treyus Darkclaw, perhaps the oldest living Geostigma sufferer, as well as the current leader of the Zombie Squadron, surviewed the Zombie Squadron's losses from within his own Commanded Shuttle. "...Wheeze... Over 63 percent... wheeze... of our forces were lost... wheeze... in this battle... wheeze... We'll need... wheeze... to bring in more... wheeze... Fighters..."

He keyed in a sqeuance of commands into the computer before him, and a HPG message was sent back to his homeplanet, where more Mercenaries would arrive.

Meanwhile, all around him, the Shivan forces were grouping for an attack. He radioed a transmission to the leader of the command vessel. "If you... wheeze... Wish our services... wheeze... again further... wheeze... Speak now, otherwise... wheeze... We'll be taking... wheeze... our leave..."

"Oh my god!" was among the things Jernox subordinates could hear from what he said to himself.

"Pilot! Get us out of here! Go for the Sol II System! What is the Fleets status?"

"We lost all Small fighters and our boarding ships won't reply to our hails! And the Hide and Seek won´t be able to withstand much more!"

"Damn this! Go now! If those Shivans tried to fool us it sure as hell suceeded."

The Hide and Seek went in to subspace, reappearing in the Sol II System.

OOC: The children of chaos are at your behest Corpsac/Gronde...

The massive ball of energy hit the Shivan formation dead center. Several destroyers and cruisers were lost. 7 Iblis' and 3 Sathanas' were completely obliterated others were alomost destroyed. The ball hit the Lucifers but the energy was absorbed by the subspace sheilds. As soon as the Shivans realized what had happened an order to retreat was given, fighters and other ships jumped into subspace the entire fleet began to jump out of the system. Once they entered the system they were headed to they would jump again then again into allied space. A transmission was sent to the mercenary forces.

Transmission to mercs
We thank you for aiding us we will send you another 500 billion for the heavy losses you have taken. We don't need your services at the moment but we may call on you again. For now return to your systems.
End transmission

Losses
3 Sathanas'
7 Iblis'
13 Ravannas
17 Demons
23 Molochs

OOC: if you want to help me shore, dont mean you will be allowed to use the hyperspace Gateway system into the cluster. only allies that i know and trust may do that.

OOC: Didn't plan to, I've got my own worm-hole junction, it's just as good as what you've got, maybe better, but I doubt that last bit.

OOC: Now, I'm assaulting the Sivans in force, as my government at the request of Baron Chang, the emperors cousin.

IC:

Third, Sixth, and Fourth fleets all appeared within ten light minutes of each other, they then proceeded in-system at full military power(80% of their maximum, about 500 and change gravities) they had decided to assist CorpSac in their time of need, the fleets were accompanied by the forces of Baron Chang Hammer, commander of the mercenary unit Hammers Slammers, composed of an SD(p), three cruisers(one battle, two light), and a CLAC, as well as three Chromsten armored transports, holding the legions and three stingship squadrons of Hammers Slammers.

OOC: Tagged! Oh yeah, for any of you that are interested, I've started my own RP, but this one isn't going to be so...uber (in the way of 50 Sathanas' and the like). Just tag it, and any of you are free to participate, just TG or add me to MSN ( jedikiller_28@hotmail.com ) and ask, and I probably will let you in. But Gronde and Mini Miehm, you're already allowed.

OOC: Tagged! Oh yeah, for any of you that are interested, I've started my own RP, but this one isn't going to be so...uber (in the way of 50 Sathanas' and the like). Just tag it, and any of you are free to participate, just TG or add me to MSN ( jedikiller_28@hotmail.com ) and ask, and I probably will let you in. But Gronde and Mini Miehm, you're already allowed.

OOC: Link please! :)

OOC: Oh crap :P My bad. Here's the link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9079817#post9079817

OOC: Oh crap :P My bad. Here's the link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9079817#post9079817

OOC: quite alright, it happens to everyone sometimes.

1 week after First Shivan Attack apon Imperial Holdings
Kell system

The Jump gate had been working none stop, the 2nd colonial fleet had been in systemfor 5 days as the 7th High fleet was starting to moblise. The 5th was delayed at Fort Lexington as meny of there ships needed to be refueled and re armed.
The 2nd battle group in the 2nd Colonial fleet was in the outer rims of the system on recon and support for the 8th Carrier group and 3rd and 5th Destroyer packs who had been moveing at full speed out of the system for early warning.
Rear Admiral Iris Valykrie was in command of the operation, the plan was to use hit and run tactics as the Shivans entered the cluster hopefuly getting a few battle groups and carrier groups on ther lonesom. Iris sat her desk on Port Aurther battle station, her ship along with others of the 7th High fleet were docked here not all tho. a few carrier groups and battle groups were takeing up defensive postions, but all in all things were going slow. They could they had time to do so and Iris knew it.
She stood looking out of the port hole, the ships of the fleet standing proud in the Docking beams of the Station.
It would be a few days till the fleet would be sent out and still atlest a week befor all of the 5th would get here. Defence sats around the 3 inhabbited planets activated, Astroid Bases preped fighters and planetary defences activated. Fighter patrols trippled as the system but one area would remain most defened and that would be Port Auther, for if that fell the Real Barrior in this sector would fail opening a gap in the real barror to 2 highly populated areas. Not allowing ships to jump into the systems but a hell of alot closer, no more then a 3 days at sublight speeds/
Iris knew that it would be a hard fight, she just hoped to hell the Shivans invasion force wasnt as big as the last war.

Fallen Prime
The Imperial Palance

Kimiko looked over the message from the Supreme Marshal, she knew what he asked was alot but she couldnt agree to it. That system was an important resorce point and alot of effort would be placed in takeing it back.
"Death Guard Priss, Send word to this Supreme Marshal and my Husband the Emperor that Sol II is not to be novaed" she said firmly "but it would be nice to have a few more ships in the outer systems, if kell falls it wont take the shivans years to get to our systems but mere months even weeks. contact the empire of Balrogga, we may need there help to. Give them the location of the sol Hyperspace gateway and the codes to use it, im shore they can traval in hyperspace easyly we send a ship there for them to met with and follow."
"yes Empress" the Death Guard replyed, suddenly her Helemet came over her as the nanos built it around her face. It looked as tho it melted from within her skin the the Trade mark Space marine helmet formed but with a few major changes.
Death Guard Priss saluted befor turning and takeing 2 of the death guards with her. They may have only have been going to the Comm center but the death guard made it a dutiy to make shore the empress's messages were delivered.

The Fleets were nearing the enemy positions around Sol II and had already deployed their LACs, and distributed missile pods to the entire force, now they just had to get in range and open fire, after that it would all be over but the shouting.

((I don't think its spelled Sathanas' but I don't really care... these things can survive a supernova to the face and remain barely functioning (according to the game they come from)... so how do they get destroyed so easily here? Must be making them from Terran materials, cheap knockoffs of the originals.))

((I don't think its spelled Sathanas' but I don't really care... these things can survive a supernova to the face and remain barely functioning (according to the game they come from)... so how do they get destroyed so easily here? Must be making them from Terran materials, cheap knockoffs of the originals.))

No, it is because my Warp Fortress's main weapon attacks with a higher concentration of energy than a supernova in the area effected. It is almost my equivilent to all those worldships floating around...

ic post comming soon.

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OoC: How is everyone making use of subspace when subspace is currently full to the brim of nanites?

OoC: How is everyone making use of subspace when subspace is currently full to the brim of nanites?

i wondered that but meh this is nationstates with the nationstate mutiverse what means there has to be mutiply subspaces (ST subspace is different to freespace subspace, just like SW hyperspace is different from Babylon five Hyperspace). so it go figure.

i wondered that but meh this is nationstates with the nationstate mutiverse what means there has to be mutiply subspaces (ST subspace is different to freespace subspace, just like SW hyperspace is different from Babylon five Hyperspace). so it go figure.

To be fair, NS FT has been fairly consistant as far as universal timeline goes. There are rarely contradictions necessitating a multiverse and the single-universeness of it was what originally attracted me to FT.

Of course, not with this nation, but you guys don't get to know who I really am.

To be fair, NS FT has been fairly consistant as far as universal timeline goes. There are rarely contradictions necessitating a multiverse and the single-universeness of it was what originally attracted me to FT.

Of course, not with this nation, but you guys don't get to know who I really am.


IB im guessing thats you, I've been using subspace like Klonor uses. Ive been wanting to talk to you about if theirs a way to get rid of the nanites.

bar humbug, if your going to have a girly chat DONT DO IT IN HERE, this is a RP not a chat room. (no offence intended in any bit of that sentace).

Right Ekardia, forget about the nanite thing this is YOUR rp and your shivans, hell for all anyone cares they could be 6ft grays with sticks and clubs from a place they call subspace but others call wastespace. do you get my drift on where im going here, all im saying is you dont need to base all your stuff on what happened befor and 100% on the ball with Freespace and so forth.

IB/TAD/US go away you were crap at being Shivans and in alot of minds one of the biggest godmoders in NS (not my view just the view of others, ifee you did godmod but hell who hasnt). This is not your RP, you left the shivans dead and buired in your books dont start forces your views on others who want to play them.

I know my ship numbers are Vary high but the fact that im expect Ekardia to RP at a average level (a bit better then he is at the moment but im shore thats since hes not shore on what to type, but in my eyes do it how you feel is best and give the most infomation and not sound like a monolog.) meaning im going to lose the 7th, 5th and the colonial force here vary quickly in a few well done battles. if he reads what ive posted to others he might think of an IC way that legit on getting into my space, that or he'll level the system and jump outside a few systems with a few days sublight speed into them.

Im also hopeing to have a few Planetary invasions and not just orbital bombardment wipeout (thats just dull).

Transmission:
From: The Hide and Seek
To: Shivan Allies
Message:
Roger that, we are pulling out. If you want our aid in forthcoming battles we need better intel. Over.

End of Transmission.

OOC: *Stands up.* Phew, at least CS didn't bad mouth me...although, he hasn't seen my RP yet...

ic> When James Harper recieved word back from the empress, he had already decided against it anyways. The Ekardia Shivans had withdrawn to group somewhere else.


To: Empress Kimiko
From: High Marshal James Harper

Very well, Sol II will remain intact. Know that I would never take such an action without your permission. However, I require you approval to up my patrolls in the areas of you space connected to my domain and to deploy Necrons there if we find Shivan forces.


Kalgar did not send a message. Instead, he came in person. His Battle Barge requested docking clearance at the Corpsac homeworld. It would be far more effective to descuss the Shivan matter in person.

As Kalgars battle barge entered the Homeworlds space death guard fighters took up Escort postions it was normal for 2-3 fighters to be around but a full wing of 28 fighters were escorting him in. It wasnt down to distrust but to the fact the Empire was at war and kalgar being the Emperor of the Dark Empire by marrage he was important. What was also different was the fact that the barge was given clearance to dock at Fort Raven, the first Raven class Fortrass of meny. It was the most advanced Fort around in the empire and most powerful, it was only 80% complete but it still looked forminderble.
On board the fortrass a Platoon of the Colonial Marines (http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/artofrev/2005/02/img/ep3_art_670.jpg) From the Elite Planetary Army the Imperial Guards waited for his arrival. A shuttle awaited him in another hanger much of the crew of the Raven were working none stop. Much of the Space Core high commander were here and much more all planning the defence of the Empire.

*SNIP*

O_o

Sorry, I'm not IB (If you mean Imperial British ), I just figure it would be a lot better of a story if FT was generally on one page. I mean, you don't [i]have to, but something as simple as finding a way to clear subspace of the nanites would make the whole thing more consistent and enjoyable.

O_o

Sorry, I'm not IB (If you mean Imperial British ), I just figure it would be a lot better of a story if FT was generally on one page. I mean, you don't [i]have to, but something as simple as finding a way to clear subspace of the nanites would make the whole thing more consistent and enjoyable.


Ekardia this is your thread, you deal with the thing that spams your thread.

Ekardia this is your thread, you deal with the thing that spams your thread.

OOC: I say we ignore it and get down to the combat.

As Kalgars battle barge entered the Homeworlds space death guard fighters took up Escort postions it was normal for 2-3 fighters to be around but a full wing of 28 fighters were escorting him in. It wasnt down to distrust but to the fact the Empire was at war and kalgar being the Emperor of the Dark Empire by marrage he was important. What was also different was the fact that the barge was given clearance to dock at Fort Raven, the first Raven class Fortrass of meny. It was the most advanced Fort around in the empire and most powerful, it was only 80% complete but it still looked forminderble.
On board the fortrass a Platoon of the Colonial Marines (http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/artofrev/2005/02/img/ep3_art_670.jpg) From the Elite Planetary Army the Imperial Guards waited for his arrival. A shuttle awaited him in another hanger much of the crew of the Raven were working none stop. Much of the Space Core high commander were here and much more all planning the defence of the Empire.

Kalgar dismounted from his Battle Barge followed my 20 space marines. Most of them simply soluted and returned to the armored bulk of the ship. He was flanked by two body gaurds and followed by the venerable Chapter Master Syberious and, in the absence of the Supreme admiral Enjire, High Admiral Alexander. The High Admiral and Kalgar were the only ones not clad in power armor. Kalgar strode to the docking bay checkpoint.

"My name is Lord-and-Master Kalgar from the Empire/Forge of Gronde and the Alliance of Naggaroth," said Kalgar formally. "I am here to meet with her majesty, the Empress Kimiko on important business. I am sure she is already aware of my arrival, but you would let her know for formallity's sake..."


Meanwhile in the 4 core industrial systems of Gronde, major naval divisions were being mobilized and organized with astounding efficiency. The surplus of war materials meant that every naval unit would be well equiped. Elsewhere in both Corpsac and Gronde fringe space, scanner checkpoints were being installed to moniter possible Shivan activity. The enemy had made a critical error in attacking several unimportant locations. They had caused little damage, but alerted the entire Empire to their pressence. Any element of supprise they had hoped to gain no longer existed.

OOC: I’ll simply post me getting ready in case you need me…

IC: “To the ships you scum!” a robust pack master lashed his barbed whip at the slaves as they marched into the waiting vessels. A fleet was being prepped to go on a trip. But then a transmission from Gronde arrived. Something about shivans. The last time the skaven fought the shivans, they were outmatched. But now, the special torpedoes were available. So to achieve the quote, “Payback’s a bitch”. Snikkit was allowed to run wild with the skaven military.

He ordered the prepping of 2 of the capital-carriers, thirteen behemoths, nearly fifty hacylon cruisers, countless(well about 200) armed-merchant vessels, and a dozen or so Carnage Class cruisers, Styx, and Hades.

Oh yes, payback certainly will hurt, skritch would guarantee it…

OOC No time to make an IC post right now, AD stay out out of my thread, Corpsac could you give me some information on your systems, and would a Knossus portal work like your gat?

OOC: I’ll simply post me getting ready in case you need me…

IC: “To the ships you scum!” a robust pack master lashed his barbed whip at the slaves as they marched into the waiting vessels. A fleet was being prepped to go on a trip. But then a transmission from Gronde arrived. Something about shivans. The last time the skaven fought the shivans, they were outmatched. But now, the special torpedoes were available. So to achieve the quote, “Payback’s a bitch”. Snikkit was allowed to run wild with the skaven military.

He ordered the prepping of 2 of the capital-carriers, thirteen behemoths, nearly fifty hacylon cruisers, countless(well about 200) armed-merchant vessels, and a dozen or so Carnage Class cruisers, Styx, and Hades.

Oh yes, payback certainly will hurt, skritch would guarantee it…

ooc> Snikkit and Skritch, two commanders that even my people are afraid of... this could get interesting. At least I'm not the one who is going to be on the other end of these Warpstone wielding maniacs.


Ekardia: Let me know if you need any information on my systems and try not to delay too much. (I know, I'm being impatient :D )

ooc> Snikkit and Skritch, two commanders that even my people are afraid of...
OOC: I'd be afraid of snikkit, he's a maniac who would slam several ships into a planet just to try to see if it destabilizes. Skritch, while brutal, isn't suicidal with his men(unless tactically sound)...
Any TCMA, BUMP

The Shivan fleet had returned from Sol II badly damaged, 2 Lucifers and several Sathans' had been lost, but the war would continue. By now Corpsac would have alerted many other nations to the Shivans return so now the battle would be much harder. And to make matters worse the scout fleet had been pulled from subspace by some type of interdiction field. The fleet attacking Sol II had noticed a type of gate upon their arrival, but it had been quickly destroyed by the enemy. It was assumed that this gate allowed entry into Corpsacian space without any of the effects of the interdiction feild. So Shivan scientists were now trying to find a way to build a gate of their own.

But for the moment most attention was on Kell the nearest system and the only one a fleet could reach at sublight speed in a resonable amount of time, the scout fleet had been traveling their for well over a week and had encountered no resistance, they would continue to move towards Kell sending out fighters to do recon.

A fleet jumped out of the Shivan system towards Kell, a great battle would be fought there and with any luck if there was a gate at Kell and it wouldnt be destroyed.

OOC
Gronde go ahead and give me some info on your systems
Mini miehm do the same.

The Miehm fleets had burned their way in system to find that nothing remained of the enemy, either they had been destroyed or they had run, in any case the flagship, commanded by admiral Benjamin, hailed what they could see of the remaining CorpSac installations for information, and an analysis of where they thought the next target would be.

OOC: CorpSac, do your gates have anything like HALO's Cole Protocol in them?

OOC: My tech comes from the Honorverse, gravitic impellers that double as nearly impenetrable shielding above and below my ships, with weaker shields on the sides, none at the rear, and mid strength shields in the front. I use laser warhead and contact fusion nuke missiles, energy weapons, my grasers and lasers, as well as my missile pods, that hold hundreds of missiles to use at will. My CLACs carry LACs, they're light attack craft with heavy spinal mount grasers and small missile armament, and there are EW LACs that use lasers and EW missiles, along with massive nukes that send out insane amounts of radioactive material, and scramble sensors in a very nasty way.

bump. Please don't let this thread stagnate.

bump

OOC: Where is everybody?

btw, here is my military storefront: (it has everything now)

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=41

I has been recently revamped.

I can't really go forward with IC stuff until Corpsac posts.

Yeah, where is CorpSac, he's usually posted at least once in this many days.

The Shivan fleet was pulled out of subspace as expected, destroyers and corvettes began forming around the carriers and juggernauts. The groups entered a wedge foprmation with 10 km between each group so they wouldnt be wittled down by geurilla strikes. The fleet began moving towards kell at full speed.

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The Shivan fleet was pulled out of subspace as expected, destroyers and corvettes began forming around the carriers and juggernauts. The groups entered a wedge foprmation with 10 km between each group so they wouldnt be wittled down by geurilla strikes. The fleet began moving towards kell at full speed.

ooc> Well, I can make an IC post for that. I will still need Corsac soon, though.

"Sir, the Shivans have surfaced again," a member of James Harper's staff stood at attention. "We were able to track their movements through hyperspace and they have just re-entered real space." James looked up.

"Where are they?" inquired the High Marshal.

"They exited just outside of Kell, sir" replied the staff member. "They are heading towards the interior now."

"These Shivans just don't get it!" High Marshal Harper turned to his intel officer. "I want you to send new attack co-ordinates to the Warp Fortress. Keep their speed in mind and order them to use the Mass Energy Teleporter again." The intel officer began typing. "Also, officer..."

"Yes?"

"Can they fire at double power?" A few seconds of typing followed.

"Yes sir, they can. But they wouldn't be able to fire again for at least 24 hours."

"Good, have them do so anyways. We always have the Warp tear generator for later. Now just one more thing to add..."

Moments later, the same thing that happened at Sol II happened outside Kell, only the attack would be twice as devistating. A massive ball of energy was teleported to the correct co-ordinates and flung into the Shivan fleet. As the energy enveloped the Shivan ships, a tactical Warp tear was made, and out of it came 2000 long range, anti-matter, smart missiles; each was designed with enough power to wipe out a planet. Normally, such missiles would be quickly detected and destroyed by enemy ships, but while being enveloped by the energy from the Warp Fortress, their long range targeting systems wouldn't be effective until it was too late. Not to mention being devourered by a massive energy ball can pose as a distraction. The missiles staggered their formation and took their targets amoung the Shivan fleet.

Harper sat back and watched to see the result of his attack. It was quite amazing, that while the Shivans were pre-occupied with trying to take out Corpsac, he could fight them off from halfway across the galaxy. The enemies would soon learn of the folly of messing with the Gronde/Corpsac empire.

"CorpSac installation around Sol 2, this is the Honor Harrington, Admiral Benjamin Speaking, do you read me? Please respond, we need to know what the next target is going to be, CorpSac forces, are you there?" The call went out repeatedly, but there was no response, the Admiral finally decided to head back out-system and see if he could head to the next CorpSac controlled system, and according to their charts that would be... Kell, Kell ws their destination.

The fleet heading towards Kell was hit by the blast several ships were destroyed, the missile volley that followed afterward wiped out everything that remained of the fleet, except for a lucifer. Unfortuanately it only hit a a scout fleet that had gone ahead of the main formation. The missiles headed for the main body but were quickly shot down. This was still enough to discourage the Shivans from continuing their assault at the moment. What remained of the fleet turned back and jumped into subspace. It was now obvious that whatever or whoever was launching these attacks would need to be dealt with soon.

OOC:
Gronde, Mini Miehm give me some info on your systems, also Gronde Id like to get a few space battles done so could you tone down on the energy teleporter, and would it be possible to track were these assaultrs are coming from?

The fleet heading towards Kell was hit by the blast several ships were destroyed, the missile volley that followed afterward wiped out everything that remained of the fleet, except for a lucifer. Unfortuanately it only hit a a scout fleet that had gone ahead of the main formation. The missiles headed for the main body but were quickly shot down. This was still enough to discourage the Shivans from continuing their assault at the moment. What remained of the fleet turned back and jumped into subspace. It was now obvious that whatever or whoever was launching these attacks would need to be dealt with soon.

OOC:
Gronde, Mini Miehm give me some info on your systems, also Gronde Id like to get a few space battles done so could you tone down on the energy teleporter, and would it be possible to track were these assaultrs are coming from?


OOC: I gave you info on my systems, it's post number 55, so I know you can find it(You're not getting any more than that, I'm not revealing Ghost-riders capabilities until I have to, or anything else that isn't absolutely necessary.)

OOC: I meant locations of your inhabited planetary systems.

OOC:
Gronde, Mini Miehm give me some info on your systems, also Gronde Id like to get a few space battles done so could you tone down on the energy teleporter, and would it be possible to track were these assaultrs are coming from?

ooc> Oh, I forgot to give you a link to my information. Sorry about that.

This is the page with my systems and installations. It is not quite done yet, there are still a few military bases to go. The important stuff is there, though.

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=1995

...and here is my military structure:

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=463

My Warp fortress hasn't been added to my listing of military bases yet. But in answer to your question, you can trace the source of the attacks. In fact, you could get a very accurate reading. One does not use stealth when throwing around huge energy balls. Lol. But you have a good 24 hours before I can use the main weapon again. There is a secondary weapon, but it is not very effective against most military grade ships and wont be ready for about 12 hours.
(Note: the Warp Fortress is protected by FTLi when it is not operating its main super-weapons, which is most of the time)

OOC: I meant locations of your inhabited planetary systems.

OOC: Then say that.

I have territory on New Terra, I own Sol 3,I own Aiur, and the entire Koprulu cluster, I own Marduk, I own Rath, and I own Mercadia, I also hold territory on Dominia and Dominaria. These are all planets I've made up, except for Sol, and placed within a ten light year sphere around the Sol systrem. I can't give you better than that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about finding them.

OOC: Then say that.

I have territory on New Terra, I own Sol 3,I own Aiur, and the entire Koprulu cluster, I own Marduk, I own Rath, and I own Mercadia, I also hold territory on Dominia and Dominaria. These are all planets I've made up, except for Sol, and placed within a ten light year sphere around the Sol systrem. I can't give you better than that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about finding them.


OOC: I'll take time finding your systems and I'll probly only find 1 or 2.

OOC: I'll take time finding your systems and I'll probly only find 1 or 2.

OOC: I'm sure you can at least find the Sol system, if not then you are a horribly lost person.

The Shivans had been able to trace the location of the superweapon and a fleet was being prepared to head there. Many of the ships would be subspace sheilded since this mission was so vital. The fleet included 2 Diablo dreadnoughts, 6 Lucifers and over 10 Sathanis and Iblis'. The fleet jumped into subspace headed for their target this mission had to be succesful or it could cost them the war.

The Shivans had been able to trace the location of the superweapon and a fleet was being prepared to head there. Many of the ships would be subspace sheilded since this mission was so vital. The fleet included 2 Diablo dreadnoughts, 6 Lucifers and over 10 Sathanis and Iblis'. The fleet jumped into subspace headed for their target this mission had to be succesful or it could cost them the war.

The UED third fleet had been dispatched a week ago to go and serve under the direction of Grondes Space Marines, they were good, but they had almost no experience, and it was decided that they would learn faster under Grondes guidance, but they'd only reached the system recently due to the FTLi that protected it, and the need to come in sub-light, meaning a trip that would have taken hours now took days, and they arrived just in time to watch the Fortress fire its second shot.

The Imperial Fleet awaits, frozen in time, for Corpsac to return...


OOC: My fleets all go home and take a nap untilCorpSac gets off his lazy(or malfunctioning) butt and posts.

The Shivan fleet came out of subspace in the the system the superweapon was in. Subspace sheilded ships took point to absorb the shot from the weapon if it was used in system. The ships activated their own FTLi to intercept any missiles coming at them at FTL speeds and pull them out so they wouldnt do any damage. The fleet began to move towards the super weapon all weapons prepped and ready to fire.

OOC: im going to post in my puppet, just so you know and dont get confussed. (im lazy and cant be bothered to log out and log back in).

Sol

The moons surface litted with Terran Colonies always avoided a small area, hunted they said. a base well hidden portected by the boomers and other AI. When the Balg ships arrvied a message was sent.
"gate will open in T minus 1 minute", at the same time a small drone flew up from the surface transmitting a massive signal to the Balg ships, with the simple command of follow.

On the surface a mssaive energy serg was detected, in front of the drop a massive Hyperspace Jump portal opened, Bright blue and never seen by anyone.

The Jump gate was the most advanced in the Empire and made for near instant Traval, they wouldnt notice it due to time freeze. The jump would take just 10 minutes.

Kell

Long Range Recon base Omega

Alarm bells rang all over the base the shivans were detected and the early warning net was going mad.
"contact the fleets inform them of the advance" the commander shouted "prepare the Jump Gate Self Destrut, they must not be able to get to that insystem."

Fighters flew out of the base, 100s of them went towards the Advancing shivans.

In system

Non milltary personel were being evaced from the system, the fleets prepared but no one expect all to live. Letters home were sent to high command for the just in case, marines prepared there weapons and Hyperspace Tear weapons prepared on all ships.
War was at hand and no one wanted to die but it was to be, no one cared the empire needed to be saved.

OOC: shit reply i know but im ill and er...in an altered state.

ooc> I have been working many hours in these past few days. I should be able to make an IC post by tommorrow night. So don't get too far ahead of me.

Corpsac: The Shivans forming around Kell already left (I think) after I used the MET weapon on them. They are now going after the Warp Fortress. Again, IC post comming as soon as I can get it posted.

ooc> I have been working many hours in these past few days. I should be able to make an IC post by tommorrow night. So don't get too far ahead of me.

Corpsac: The Shivans forming around Kell already left (I think) after I used the MET weapon on them. They are now going after the Warp Fortress. Again, IC post comming as soon as I can get it posted.

OOC: I sent a fleet to you, so be sure to work that into your equation.

ic> The Warp Fortress had never been so much as attacked, let alone taken, by an enemy force. The Universe has allowed the AoN to keep this destructive weapon. At long last, the defencive capabilities of this fortress were about to be tested. Fortunately for its defenders, no one else had any idea of what to expect.

The first things that the Shivans were welcomed with were the space mines. They decloaked and seeked towards the invaders ships at a high speed, many of them exploding right before impact. The second was the perimeter of Cloaked Missile Batteries. They appeared in time to unleash thousands and thousands of anti-matter missiles onto the Shivan fleet just after the mines detonated. The effect of the perimeter defences was being observed by the High Marshal, the better to plan the overall defencive plan.

Teransmission to the Gronde fortress:

"This is General Raynor, commander of the Hyperion, I'm here to help, so what do you need me to do? Raynor out."

The Hyperion and its escorts moved in-system as fast as they could, it was evident that battle had already been joined, and Gronde would probably appreciate the help.

ooc> *grumbling*

*starts throwing an 'American' football around*

ooc> *grumbling*

*starts throwing an 'American' football around*

*Tackles Gronde because he has the ball.*

As the missiles and mines came towards the Shivan fleet flak guns and anti-fighter batteries opened up. Most of the incoming explosives were shot down many more hit the subspace sheilded ships. But some of them got through. One of the Iblis cariers erupted in flames as the missiles impacted on its hull, several cruisers were obliterated as well.

The fleet began firing their own anti matter misiles at the batteries that had fired at them.

ic> James Harper sat in his controll room, observing the proceedings and making note of everything he saw.

"Alright, their anti-fighter capabilities are about average," said High Marshal Harper to his retainer. "But their sub-space bubble shielding is something..."

"Sir," replied his retainer, "our archives tell us that Gronde has encountered such shielding before."

"How can we counter it?" inquired Harper.

"Well, taking into account our current knowledge and the fact of how they operate," began the retainer. "If we were to divert some of the power comming from the Star sphere and put it into our FLTi, their shields should callapse once they enter the field."

"But if we do that, it will take even longer to power up the MET weapon again."

"True, but if it gets destroyed, it wont matter. Besides, by the time it is charged up, the additional upgrades will be complete, allowing it to fire at 3 times its current max."

"So how long?"

"About 48 hours."

"Very well," Harper concluded, turning to his officers. "You all know the plan." A collective "yes sir" followed.

Meanwhile, a team of 7 Hunter Super Destroyers with upgrades engines came approached the Shivans. The invaders had already wiped out most of the missile batteries that had fired on them, but there were plenty more. The destroyers moved just into range for their Forward cannon, and fired off a few shots at a single target. They were ordered to keep firing until the enemy began to come towards them. Once that happened, they would take off, and repeat the process.

Teransmission to the Gronde fortress:

"This is General Raynor, commander of the Hyperion, I'm here to help, so what do you need me to do? Raynor out."

The Hyperion and its escorts moved in-system as fast as they could, it was evident that battle had already been joined, and Gronde would probably appreciate the help.


Jim was worried, Gronde had yet to respond and the battle seemed to be heating up, but until he knew where he was needed he couldn't do anything about the fighting.

To Gronde Fortress:

This is General Jim Raynor of the Terran Dominion, we need instructions, where do you want us? Jimmy out.

Jim was worried, Gronde had yet to respond and the battle seemed to be heating up, but until he knew where he was needed he couldn't do anything about the fighting.

To Gronde Fortress:

This is General Jim Raynor of the Terran Dominion, we need instructions, where do you want us? Jimmy out.

***Reply to General Rayner (ooc> how original :| ) from Harper***

If you would, have your forces rally around the closest Obsidian Class Superfortress. It is gaurds the only safe rout to the Warp Fortress. The space around it is either mined or is too saturated with Warp Energy to be safe, even for military craft. The only way to the fortress from the enemy's direction is through the Obsidian class and its surrounding fortifications.

***End Transmission***

***Reply to General Rayner (ooc> how original :| ) from Harper***

If you would, have your forces rally around the closest Obsidian Class Superfortress. It is gaurds the only safe rout to the Warp Fortress. The space around it is either mined or is too saturated with Warp Energy to be safe, even for military craft. The only way to the fortress from the enemy's direction is through the Obsidian class and its surrounding fortifications.

***End Transmission***


OOC: I couldn't think of anything better on short notice, and if I'm using the Dominion I might as well use the characters.

IC:

To Gronde:

Roger, we are en route, be there in a few. Jimmy out.

The fleet began moving towards the fortress, the carriers disgorging their interceptors, as the Leviathans brought up their shields and got their guns on line.

The fleet escorts were various Terran and Protoss ships, Scouts and Corsairs, Valkyries and Wraiths, a few observers and Arbiters, and even a few gunships, from both races, Grizzlies and Reapers, they deployed in a rough formation that would be cleaned up when they reached their rally point.

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The Shivan fleet continued its advance towards the enemy superweapon. As the enemy derstroyers began firing anti-matter missiles were launched at them. Destroyers and cruisers continued to destroy the missile batteries. The Lucifers and Diablos targeted the enemy destroyers with beam cannons and flux cannons. The Sathanas however were doing somthing different, something the enemy wouldn't expect. The arms on them began to moce together and gather energy to fire a subsonic pulse. These pulses had the power to make suns go nova, and all ten of them fired at a distant installation were an enemy fleet was gathering.

The Shivan fleet continued its advance towards the enemy superweapon. As the enemy derstroyers began firing anti-matter missiles were launched at them. Destroyers and cruisers continued to destroy the missile batteries. The Lucifers and Diablos targeted the enemy destroyers with beam cannons and flux cannons. The Sathanas however were doing somthing different, something the enemy wouldn't expect. The arms on them began to moce together and gather energy to fire a subsonic pulse. These pulses had the power to make suns go nova, and all ten of them fired at a distant installation were an enemy fleet was gathering.

OOC: Subsonic? umm, I'm going to assume that was a mistake, because subsonic: A, is really slow, and B, makes no sense in this situation.

IC:

The fleet had yet to reach their destination when the Shivans fired, well, that solved that.

New transmission:

Would you like us to try and retrieve survivors or defend somewhere else? Jimmy out.

The Shivan fleet continued its advance towards the enemy superweapon. As the enemy derstroyers began firing anti-matter missiles were launched at them. Destroyers and cruisers continued to destroy the missile batteries. The Lucifers and Diablos targeted the enemy destroyers with beam cannons and flux cannons. The Sathanas however were doing somthing different, something the enemy wouldn't expect. The arms on them began to moce together and gather energy to fire a subsonic pulse. These pulses had the power to make suns go nova, and all ten of them fired at a distant installation were an enemy fleet was gathering.

ooc> Right, I, too, am wondering about the whole subsonic thing. I will reply to that bit once you explain it.

ic> The missile batteries in that area were quickly being wiped out. It was of little concern. They were just a small welcome. The Destroyers, being armed with highly long range weapondry at the expense of armour, were already able to easily stay out of range while poking the Shivan ships with their long range forward weapons in a hit-and-withdraw fashon. By the time enemy missiles got close, they were easily taken out through a mixture of evasive manuvering and anti-fighter weapons batteries. (ooc> remember, Hunter Destroyers are superb screening vessels)

OOC: Shivans? AGAIN? xD Funfun.

IC:

The vast armadas of the Imperial Empire remained within their enigmatic borders. Sightless eyes of extra-ether sensors twitched in the direction of the gathered Shivan elite only briefly, not bothering to probe in depth. Matter fluxuasions were not uncommon in the vast corridors of space. The Immortal Empire dwelt in it's own series of systems, clustered far away from Mother Sol. They had elected to shy from the first Shivan conflict, as it did not touch Traileric borders, and the waste of resources on the prattling of a small anti-human incursion was not enough to gain interest with the empire that was by now, slowly being forgotten by it's ancient neighbors of Sol. Of course, were the Shivan fleets to reach Sol itself, that would undoubtably gain some attention amongst the vast covens if underground Sleepers.

OOC: Tag. Blargh wish I was involved in the first shivan war.

OOC: Tag. Blargh wish I was involved in the first shivan war.

Don't you all :P

But meh, maybe one day I'll put effort into the Shivans again, but until that day you will have to deal with Ekardia.

Oh and his Sathanas weapon is infact a subspace compression wave which ripples standard space and time sending a big nasty wall of doom towards you.

You know, that's the exact same stuff that I use, Except that the Godulans focus it as a compression wave rather than a propagation wave, so that if they strike a hard surface like shields or armor, they shift into the propagation version, generating a localized Shatterspace Anomaly.

So as something of an analogy, it could be said that the Shivan weapon would be something akin to splashing water at something and hoping the ripples get it, while the Godulan version is turning a fire hose on that same something and not worrying too much about the ripples.

ooc> Oh, ok. Well Ekardia: it pays to pay attention to everything I write in my posts. If the pulses are as US described, well, you will see the result...

ic> As the Subspace pulses began to enter the sub-systems interior, they reached the stronger FTLi field. Once the Pulses went in to that area of space, the real-space-stabilizors kicked in and nullified the pulses, as they were designed to do.

ooc> Oh, ok. Well Ekardia: it pays to pay attention to everything I write in my posts. If the pulses are as US described, well, you will see the result...

ic> As the Subspace pulses began to enter the sub-systems interior, they reached the stronger FTLi field. Once the Pulses went in to that area of space, the real-space-stabilizors kicked in and nullified the pulses, as they were designed to do.

OOC: Sorry however your interpretation is in-fact rather incoherent. The subspace pulse causes the ripples throughout the dimensional level, there is no breech within the dimensional wall.

Nullifying the pulses would require you to absorb the energy within subspace itself, which, since you have FTLi activated around your vessels, and do not have the quality of subspacial manipulative technology available to the Shivans, I would have to say that your explanation is in fact self defeating.

Godular ~ You are thinking of the waves in a two dimensional format, think of them as a large wall flowing outwards from the focal point of the discharge. They are by no means exact, but it is a mass damage weapon, it is designed to cause as much destruction as possible within a small time frame regardless of friendly fire. It isn’t like splashing water at something at all, it is like, throwing a five hundred foot wall in your face.

...and continues to wait...


OOC: *points to my post* it was short but it did point out the station actviated below and a Boomer ship showed you the way.

Edi: i take it your ships decided to go for a new target.

PS: Terran System Alliance is a PUPPET OF CORPSAC (me) IM JUST LAZY, dont belive me then i will log in as corpsac and say the same thing.

OOC: Sorry however your interpretation is in-fact rather incoherent. The subspace pulse causes the ripples throughout the dimensional level, there is no breech within the dimensional wall.

Nullifying the pulses would require you to absorb the energy within subspace itself, which, since you have FTLi activated around your vessels, and do not have the quality of subspacial manipulative technology available to the Shivans, I would have to say that your explanation is in fact self defeating.



ooc> Oh, I was actually wondering if that was the case instead. Also, the FTLi that is in use in this system is not around vessels but generated at a system wide level from a central area and distributed through FTLi beacons. (Not that it really matters right now) Although, do you realize that it would still take about an hour for the pulses to get to their target? (and that is if it was going at nearly light speed)

Anyways, i don't really have enough time to make a good post and I don't like to post unless I can make it up to my standards. I will try to get an IC post in later today.

OOC: Sorry however your interpretation is in-fact rather incoherent. The subspace pulse causes the ripples throughout the dimensional level, there is no breech within the dimensional wall.

Nullifying the pulses would require you to absorb the energy within subspace itself, which, since you have FTLi activated around your vessels, and do not have the quality of subspacial manipulative technology available to the Shivans, I would have to say that your explanation is in fact self defeating.

Godular ~ You are thinking of the waves in a two dimensional format, think of them as a large wall flowing outwards from the focal point of the discharge. They are by no means exact, but it is a mass damage weapon, it is designed to cause as much destruction as possible within a small time frame regardless of friendly fire. It isn’t like splashing water at something at all, it is like, throwing a five hundred foot wall in your face.

OOC: I have always maintained that anything not in Real Space cannot have an affect on Real Space, meaning that the subspace pulses only affect subspace, because unless they breached the dimensional wall they'd just stay in subspace, and if they try to breach the Real Space wall, then thwe FTLi deals with them, all in all I try to keep my weapons, except the various dimension hopping missiles, in Real Space, because I don't let anything outside of Real Space affect me.

OOC The subsonic pulses do work like US said so your FTLi wouldn't affect them, I'll make an IC post later.

OOC The subsonic pulses do work like US said so your FTLi wouldn't affect them, I'll make an IC post later.

OOC: They couldn't work that way, period, there is no way for something outside of Real Space to affect it, Real Space affects sub-space, but not the other way around, I'm saying that what you propose defies even NS physics.

Basic FTL physics lesson 1:

Effects of Real Space on FTL space and vice versa:

Think of FTL space as a pond with a high dike around it, the dike reperesents the dimensional wall, now in Real Space we are on the shore, we know that the pond is there, but we have a limited ability to alter it. The same goes for FTL space, with even tighter restrictions, when a rock is thrown in the pond an equal amount of water is displaced, there is no way other than by adding an exit or release for the sub-space energy to reach real space. The stone is the same as an FTL ship, it displaces an equal volume of sub-space into real space, but without that opening the sub-space will remain where it is. Now think of your pulses as a breeze, the breeze batters at the dike, but has no effect other than that, open a hole in the dike and the water rushes out, but without that hole the water stays in, unable to alter real space in any way.

End Lesson.

Now you understand?

Godular ~ You are thinking of the waves in a two dimensional format, think of them as a large wall flowing outwards from the focal point of the discharge. They are by no means exact, but it is a mass damage weapon, it is designed to cause as much destruction as possible within a small time frame regardless of friendly fire. It isn’t like splashing water at something at all, it is like, throwing a five hundred foot wall in your face.

And the Godulans effectively take the same amount of energy and, rather than create that giant wall, focus it into a single, point using it to crack through shielding and deal the damage where it would really hurt.

I think you misread my analogy somewhat, as one does not need to think of the waves in more than two dimensional format to get the general point across. However, I shall rephrase in a more 'spatially oriented' format.

The Shivan weapon would be like a Sonic Boom, shattering windows and momentary deafness in a wide radius around the origin, while the Godulan weapon would be a type of amplifier that focuses the same amount of force into a single compressed burst of sonic energy that would flatten a tank, yet leave the child eating a lollipop right next to it with nothing more harmful than an awestruck expression.

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On a coincidental but otherwise completely unrelated note, Xenith Steele uses one of the abovementioned sonic devices to focus his spellsinging.

Damnable Shivans. I suppose they'll want revenge upon me, and attack my worlds while the UFGZ is in Civil War.

Rest assured, O Foul Creatures Of Subspace, thou shalt be vanquished yet again. Cast aside these woeful aspirations of the destruction of Humankind, for it will never be acheived by you, or any other deluded nation.

You shall pay for Normandeicht.

You shall pay for the deaths of millions.

You shall pay.

OOC: They couldn't work that way, period, there is no way for something outside of Real Space to affect it, Real Space affects sub-space, but not the other way around, I'm saying that what you propose defies even NS physics.

Basic FTL physics lesson 1:

Effects of Real Space on FTL space and vice versa:

Think of FTL space as a pond with a high dike around it, the dike reperesents the dimensional wall, now in Real Space we are on the shore, we know that the pond is there, but we have a limited ability to alter it. The same goes for FTL space, with even tighter restrictions, when a rock is thrown in the pond an equal amount of water is displaced, there is no way other than by adding an exit or release for the sub-space energy to reach real space. The stone is the same as an FTL ship, it displaces an equal volume of sub-space into real space, but without that opening the sub-space will remain where it is. Now think of your pulses as a breeze, the breeze batters at the dike, but has no effect other than that, open a hole in the dike and the water rushes out, but without that hole the water stays in, unable to alter real space in any way.

End Lesson.

Now you understand?
Well don’t accept his perfectly legitimate weapon and leave the thread. After all most of the faster than light drives can’t work, most of your weapons are bull, so how about we call future tech what it really is and a lot of made up psudo science and leave it at that.

His weapon is based on the sun destroying weapon in freespace, all I have done is modified the charge time. Your reason for not accepting it is BULL

And, may I add that in future tech, there is many references throughout star trek and star wars (expanded universe) of happenings in subspace affecting normal space. Your reasoning’s are BULL plain and simple. If you don’t want to accept Ekardias weapon I suggest you leave the thread.

Godular~ Gotcha, thanks for the extended description, cheers mate.

Damnable Shivans. I suppose they'll want revenge upon me, and attack my worlds while the UFGZ is in Civil War.

Rest assured, O Foul Creatures Of Subspace, thou shalt be vanquished yet again. Cast aside these woeful aspirations of the destruction of Humankind, for it will never be acheived by you, or any other deluded nation.

You shall pay for Normandeicht.

You shall pay for the deaths of millions.

You shall pay.

I love you too GZ :P

Well don’t accept his perfectly legitimate weapon and leave the thread. After all most of the faster than light drives can’t work, most of your weapons are bull, so how about we call future tech what it really is and a lot of made up psudo science and leave it at that.

His weapon is based on the sun destroying weapon in freespace, all I have done is modified the charge time. Your reason for not accepting it is BULL

And, may I add that in future tech, there is many references throughout star trek and star wars (expanded universe) of happenings in subspace affecting normal space. Your reasoning’s are BULL plain and simple. If you don’t want to accept Ekardias weapon I suggest you leave the thread.

Godular~ Gotcha, thanks for the extended description, cheers mate.

No, my reason is well reasoned, I merely insist that his uber-weapon have a weakness, like vulnerability to FTLi, I'd be willing to accept it then, and I have no shp-board FTLi, and only one system is protected by FTLi, so my insistence doesn't help me much, except that I think his weapon is overly powerful, with no counter.

No, my reason is well reasoned, I merely insist that his uber-weapon have a weakness, like vulnerability to FTLi, I'd be willing to accept it then, and I have no shp-board FTLi, and only one system is protected by FTLi, so my insistence doesn't help me much, except that I think his weapon is overly powerful, with no counter.

Of course its overly powerful with no counter, as the Shivans are the masters of subspace, that’s where they’re from. As for the weapon itself it takes a fewminutes to charge and fire. Its your own fault if you don’t start to try and get out of the way, but since you have FTL’s up……..

Who said it was fair, trust me, if you want unfair I’ll pop in with my Shivan nation and begin to rain hell upon Future Tech again.

So lets see, you’re fighting a Sathanas Juggernaut head on….. I advise you do some research on the web, as the thing has a lot of weakneses.

Do some research. Its not up to us to tell you our soft points.

Of course its overly powerful with no counter, as the Shivans are the masters of subspace, that’s where they’re from. As for the weapon itself it takes a fewminutes to charge and fire. Its your own fault if you don’t start to try and get out of the way, but since you have FTL’s up……..

Who said it was fair, trust me, if you want unfair I’ll pop in with my Shivan nation and begin to rain hell upon Future Tech again.

So lets see, you’re fighting a Sathanas Juggernaut head on….. I advise you do some research on the web, as the thing has a lot of weakneses.

Do some research. Its not up to us to tell you our soft points.

OOC: it is up to you to have easily discovered ones, I don't have time to research things(one reason I usually stick to 40k, SC, ST, or SW RPs), but I thought I'd help CorpSac out on this one, my forces have never faced shivans befoire, so they wouldn't know to move, the point is that the weapon is too powerful for its drawbacks, it is unbalanced, I don't like unbalanced weapons, but I'm tired of arguing it, I'll just give you some real hell to deal with. Gronde, The Honorverse is coming, be ready to guide them in.

ooc> MM: don't worry about it. You don't need to argue on my behalf. I can deal with this anways.

US: Pop in with you shivans if you want. You will quickly learn that you can't out RP me. No ammount of Uber-tech can replace legit. tactics. And don't argue on Ekardia's behalf.

Ekardia: Have you ever heard of the ringworlds from Philip Jose Farmer's Ringworld series? Have you heard of a Dyson Spere? Granted, mine are not done yet. However, their effect is still quite overwhelming. As you will find out.

Anyways, don't clog this thread with ooc posts. If you need to descuss something like that, do it over AIM, via TGs, or something like that and post the result here. (I know, this is CS's thread, but he isn't being very active, so I am taking over for now) I will accept this Subspace pulse this time, but I would like to descuss it further for the sake of future implications. (In a different thread, though)



ic> James Harper was stunned by the strange pulse comming at the first Obsidian Superfortress. Luckily, the High Marshal that came before him had fought with the Shivans the last time. He was knowledgable on their technology to a reasonable extent.

"They must have caused some kind of Sub-space related pulse outside of the FTLi," concludes Harper. "Commander--"

"Sir?"

"I know our ringworld that was built around the Warp star isn't linked to the Warp fortress yet," explained the High Marshal. "but are we able to broadcast its energy production to other systems in our defencive network?"

"Yes, we should be able to," replied the staff commander. "The Ring is only 2/3 of the way done, and the Dyson spere isn't even close; it's only about 3% completed."

"But still, the ammount of energy that they can put out is more than a full scale Fleet."

"That is true. But it will still take some time to organize a way to nullify this pulse."

"That's fine, worst case scenario, we have a few hours before it reaches its target," the High Marshal assured him.

And thus a plan of action was put into effect. The vast energy output of the Ring and the fraction of the spere was taken advantage of. Putting it into perspective, if the ammount of energy being collected in 2 hours was teleported onto a planet, and 50% of that energy was used in the teleportation process to break FTLi, it would still be enough to wipe the planet down to its componant atoms. It would still be some time before the Warp Fortress would be fixated onto these power collectors, but they could still be broadcasted elsewhere.

First, small, undetectable holes in the FTLi field were made in the path of the pulses, allowing objects to be brought in from the Warp. (and only the Warp) Powerfull force field generators were brough in, powered by the Star Ring. They created a strong enough shield to stop the pulse long enough for nullifiers to be brough in. They emmitted a nullification wave designed to eliminate the frequency of the Subspace Pulses. Though the pulses were powerfull, they could not compete with the power output of a Warp star.

ooc> MM: don't worry about it. You don't need to argue on my behalf. I can deal with this anways.

US: Pop in with you shivans if you want. You will quickly learn that you can't out RP me. No ammount of Uber-tech can replace legit. tactics. And don't argue on Ekardia's behalf.

Ekardia: Have you ever heard of the ringworlds from Philip Jose Farmer's Ringworld series? Have you heard of a Dyson Spere? Granted, mine are not done yet. However, their effect is still quite overwhelming. As you will find out.

Anyways, don't clog this thread with ooc posts. If you need to descuss something like that, do it over AIM, via TGs, or something like that and post the result here. (I know, this is CS's thread, but he isn't being very active, so I am taking over for now) I will accept this Subspace pulse this time, but I would like to descuss it further for the sake of future implications. (In a different thread, though)



ic> James Harper was stunned by the strange pulse comming at the first Obsidian Superfortress. Luckily, the High Marshal that came before him had fought with the Shivans the last time. He was knowledgable on their technology to a reasonable extent.

"They must have caused some kind of Sub-space related pulse outside of the FTLi," concludes Harper. "Commander--"

"Sir?"

"I know our ringworld that was built around the Warp star isn't linked to the Warp fortress yet," explained the High Marshal. "but are we able to broadcast its energy production to other systems in our defencive network?"

"Yes, we should be able to," replied the staff commander. "The Ring is only 2/3 of the way done, and the Dyson spere isn't even close; it's only about 3% completed."

"But still, the ammount of energy that they can put out is more than a full scale Fleet."

"That is true. But it will still take some time to organize a way to nullify this pulse."

"That's fine, worst case scenario, we have a few hours before it reaches its target," the High Marshal assured him.

And thus a plan of action was put into effect. The vast energy output of the Ring and the fraction of the spere was taken advantage of. Putting it into perspective, if the ammount of energy being collected in 2 hours was teleported onto a planet, and 50% of that energy was used in the teleportation process to break FTLi, it would still be enough to wipe the planet down to its componant atoms. It would still be some time before the Warp Fortress would be fixated onto these power collectors, but they could still be broadcasted elsewhere.

First, small, undetectable holes in the FTLi field were made in the path of the pulses, allowing objects to be brought in from the Warp. (and only the Warp) Powerfull force field generators were brough in, powered by the Star Ring. They created a strong enough shield to stop the pulse long enough for nullifiers to be brough in. They emmitted a nullification wave designed to eliminate the frequency of the Subspace Pulses. Though the pulses were powerfull, they could not compete with the power output of a Warp star.

OOC: I'm still bringing in 8th fleet from the Hulk thread, so be ready for them, I'll post them in about 2 RL days.

IC:

The fleet around the Super Fortress was surprised with the efficiency of the defenses they had, the Militia never would have held up under that, or been able to stop it.

Raynor had a few retaliatorty surprises up his sleeve though, the Wraiths and Scouts both had visible and sensor cloak capability now, and if Gronde allowed it he would strike at the Shivans with his small craft before anything worse could happen.

Short-band whisker laser transmission to the Fortress:

This is Raynor, I'd like permission to send out some cloaked forces to hit them before they do that again, I know you can handle it, but my men are a little nervous about it, I intend to destroy the weapon if at all possible. Raynor out.

I made an OOC thread heres the link

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9245735#post9245735

The Shivan fleet watched as the ten subsonic pulses were nullified. This did not scare them. They couldn't fire pulses again for another 2 hours, so they wouldn't be able to see if this could stop multiple barrages. The fleet continued to move in system, they deployed fighters to scan for any more surprises that might await them further in the system. This super weapon would be destroyed and so would all their enemies here.

Meanwhile on the Shivan worldship Shivan scientists were still working around the clock to find a way into the Corpsacian cluster.

A modified Cain class cruiser jumped into subspace with four fighters escorting it. They were searching for more enemy held systems to attack.

The defenders of the Andathat province were nervous, they had detected subspace travel nearby, and the system was not important enough to have an FTLi, so the best they could hope for would be a quick death in space, followed by a long ground war, because mutalisks and their associated aspects could not defeat Shivan forces in any real numbers.

On the surface the forces stationed there prepared for the attack, unit SOL-003, or Lonesome Sun, was one of the planets two heavy defensive weapons, a BOLO, it was designed to withstand massive power and deal out as much as it took in, the second weapon was even more frightening, its designation had been lost to the past, it was now known only as "Bun-Bun", it was a massive engine of death, armed with modified Splinter cannon and Grav-guns, its main gun was a 16" butcher, firing massive anti-lander or area effect shells, it destroyed anything in its path.

The final true defender of the planet was simply known as Mike, commander of an ACS division, armed with Grav-guns and Terrawatt lasers, he had beaten all who fought him, and now he would beat the shivans as well.

ooc> MM: You have a Bolo! That's awsome. (I am well versed in countless Science fiction sources)

ic> Shivan fighters were detected going ahead to spot for the Shivan fleet. A sensible decision, but rathar predictable and prepared for as part of the defencive systems. As the fighters flew ahead of the Shivan fleet, several groupings of large unidentified defencive weapons uncloaked. They were grid batteries. They created a massive grid formation of lasers designed to cut though fighter groups with ease. The laser grid was sent right through the fighter's positions.

A message was sent to the MM commander. He was told to send his forces to overwhelm the ships that had broken off the chase the hunter destroyers. A hole in the FTLi would be made for them, but would be closed quickly.

ooc> MM: You have a Bolo! That's awsome. (I am well versed in countless Science fiction sources)

ic> Shivan fighters were detected going ahead to spot for the Shivan fleet. A sensible decision, but rathar predictable and prepared for as part of the defencive systems. As the fighters flew ahead of the Shivan fleet, several groupings of large unidentified defencive weapons uncloaked. They were grid batteries. They created a massive grid formation of lasers designed to cut though fighter groups with ease. The laser grid was sent right through the fighter's positions.

A message was sent to the MM commander. He was told to send his forces to overwhelm the ships that had broken off the chase the hunter destroyers. A hole in the FTLi would be made for them, but would be closed quickly.

OOC: I hae Lonesome Son, unit SOL 145, from John Ringos book, The Road to Damascus, and I have SheVa gun number 9, Bun-Bun, a truly kickass tank.

IC:

Understood, deploying Wraiths and Scouts, the heavier units will stay back and provide close defense for the fortress. Raynor out.

The cloaked fighters moved out, accelerating at their best speed, their target was the subspace weapon and the ship that generated it, there were thousands of fighters in the fleet and they all went after the Sathanas Juggernauts, they would be destroyed in short order.

The 3 Shivan squadrons that had went ahead were quickly destroyed by the grid weapon. The other fighters began to be released but not sent out, several enemy fighters had just came towards the 5km Sathanas's over a 2500 Shivan interceptors andf heavy fighters rushed to protect the Juggernauts, while Cain class cruisers took positiosn around them to use their anti-fighter weapons. Two Ravanna destroyers also went towards the enemy fighters, these ships specialized in destroying smaller ships, especially fighters. These fools would learn the Shivans were not to be trifled with. As the other ships engaged the fighters the Lucifers launched missiles at the anti-fighter grid.

The Shivan cruiser in the Mini Miehm province sent orders for reinforcements, its job here was now complete, it jumped into subspace to find more human inhabited systems to destroy.

The 3 Shivan squadrons that had went ahead were quickly destroyed by the grid weapon. The other fighters began to be released but not sent out, several enemy fighters had just came towards the 5km Sathanas's over a 2500 Shivan interceptors andf heavy fighters rushed to protect the Juggernauts, while Cain class cruisers took positiosn around them to use their anti-fighter weapons. Two Ravanna destroyers also went towards the enemy fighters, these ships specialized in destroying smaller ships, especially fighters. These fools would learn the Shivans were not to be trifled with. As the other ships engaged the fighters the Lucifers launched missiles at the anti-fighter grid.

The Shivan cruiser in the Mini Miehm province sent orders for reinforcements, its job here was now complete, it jumped into subspace to find more human inhabited systems to destroy.

OOC: So, how exactly are you detecting my CLOAKED units without GM? It can be done, but I want to know how you're doing it.

IC:

The Wraiths and Scouts sped onward, undeterred by the forces moving to intercept them, they had an ace in the hole, and they would trap the Sathanas when they used it, and nothing the enemy tried would be able to stop them.

Message to the Superfortress:

I just had an idea of how to deal with those juggernauts, when I say so give me some holes in the FTLi and I'll warp them here, they'll be trapped in the middle of my formation and smashed by the combined guns of my ships and your fortress, then they'll be no threat later on.

ic> As the MM fighters began their pass at the Juggernauts and the remaining Shivan fighters went in to help, the Hunter Super Destroyers turned around and came back towards the skirmish. They went up to full combat speed and made a pass, making sure that the enemy fighters were between them and the Juggernauts. One of these destroyer's main roles is that of a screaning vessel; they take out enemy fighters. They were very good at it. As they went by, they opened fire on the enemy fighters with their accurate and powerfull anti-fighter weapons. These included light laser batteries, seeker missiles, and the deadly Harpoon Laser Turrets. Hopefully, this would allow the MM fighters to concentrate on their objective. The destroyers also focused their forward weapons on one Ravanna Destroyer as they finished their pass. The Hunter super Destroyers were large enough to accomodate powerfull forward weapons, the enemy destroyer would not likely survive. Although, if the Gronde destroyers were not carefull in their position, they could easily be destroyed themselves.

The Grid Laser units were well equiped to handle missiles; they might as well be the same thing as fighters. All they needed to do was make their grid finer and the missiles were destroyed before reaching their targets. Two of the Units did not act fast enough and were hit anyways, turning into scrap. The rest re-cloaked and re-located.

***Message to MM commander***

You may have controll of the FTLi yourself for now, in order to perform your plan with the utmost efficiency. Just remember to close the holes quickly after each task is complete.

**End message**

The Wraiths and Scouts appreciated thwe cover Gronde was giving them, once they got closeenough the Arbiters would recall them and the Juggernauts to the fortress, then they would close the holes and waste the trapped ships, they'd be little threat tio the sheer numbers that would be brought against them in the middle of the fleet.

MM I have a question, how the hell can you pull my ships to the fortress?

ooc> I can probobly answer that. (being a starcraft fan) Arbiters have something called Recall Technology. It is basically a high powered forced teleportation field. It is capable of targeting foriegn objects and teleporting them around. (And he recalled them to the Obsidian Superfortress, not the actual Warp fortress) Such technology would work on me as well if I was not prepared for it. (and judging by your post, you weren't prepared for it)

ooc> I can probobly answer that. (being a starcraft fan) Arbiters have something called Recall Technology. It is basically a high powered forced teleportation field. It is capable of targeting foriegn objects and teleporting them around. (And he recalled them to the Obsidian Superfortress, not the actual Warp fortress) Such technology would work on me as well if I was not prepared for it. (and judging by your post, you weren't prepared for it)

OOC: Correct, Warp Recall, along with Temporal Stasis, the two Arbiter abilities, the only reason I really have them at all is those abilities, the cloaking field is kind of incidental.

The defenders of Andathat had detected tghe Shivan ships, now they prepared their defenses, readying the BOLO and Bun-Bun for combat, while Iron Mike prepared his triple nickel for battle against the Shivan plague.

ooc> That was me, BTW. (my UN nation) I forgot to logout. lol.

ooc> That was me, BTW. (my UN nation) I forgot to logout. lol.

OOC: ok, I figured it was you, since you differentiated between the Warp and Superfortresses.

OOC: MM I just skimmed through your post and I missed the part about the fighters being cloaked.

The Shivans were beginning to change their mind about this attack with cloaked fighters everywhere and the Gronde super destroyersnow entering the fray things weren't look ing good. The Ravanna that had been attacked sheilds dropped and enemy fire poured into the ship. It launched escape pods and did a micro jump to the location of the enemy destroyers as soon as it came out of subspace in the middle of their formation, its reactor core was quickly overloaded and it detonated in a magnicent explosion. The rest of the fleet jumped into subspace but not before dropping thousands of remote mines.

An hour later the fleet appeared in the Andathat system without the Diablos and 4 of the Lucifers, they had returned to Shivan held space. The fleet began to move towards the MiniMiehm defenders.

OOC: MM I just skimmed through your post and I missed the part about the fighters being cloaked.

The Shivans were beginning to change their mind about this attack with cloaked fighters everywhere and the Gronde super destroyersnow entering the fray things weren't look ing good. The Ravanna that had been attacked sheilds dropped and enemy fire poured into the ship. It launched escape pods and did a micro jump to the location of the enemy destroyers as soon as it came out of subspace in the middle of their formation, its reactor core was quickly overloaded and it detonated in a magnicent explosion. The rest of the fleet jumped into subspace but not before dropping thousands of remote mines.

An hour later the fleet appeared in the Andathat system without the Diablos and 4 of the Lucifers, they had returned to Shivan held space. The fleet began to move towards the MiniMiehm defenders.


The enemy had been beaten back, with minimal casuaslties, they had won, but their targets had escaped before they could Recall them to destruction.

The defenders were badly outgunned, there were thousands of mutalisks, guardians and devourers, and they had grafted weapons and armor, but they could not stand against the power of the shivan weapons, it seemed that the Scourges would do the most damage here.

As the enemy assembled for their drive in-system the forces prepared to meet them, the minimal orbital weapons were charged and ready, the swarm ruled space for now, they simply had to await the attack.

The Shivan fleet opened fire with all their weapons, beam cannons and anti-matter missiles went towards the enemy fleet, fighters began engaging their enemy counterparts and escoting bombers as they targeted the enemy defence platforms. The Lucifers fired their powerful flux at enemy capital ships while Ravanna destroyers targeted incoming fighters and missiles. The Sathanas Juggernauts fired their heavy beam cannons at the defence platforms. This systems defenses would fall quickly asnd then the planet would be bombarded.

The Shivan fleet opened fire with all their weapons, beam cannons and anti-matter missiles went towards the enemy fleet, fighters began engaging their enemy counterparts and escoting bombers as they targeted the enemy defence platforms. The Lucifers fired their powerful flux at enemy capital ships while Ravanna destroyers targeted incoming fighters and missiles. The Sathanas Juggernauts fired their heavy beam cannons at the defence platforms. This systems defenses would fall quickly asnd then the planet would be bombarded.

OOC: You know, if I had missiles to shoot, that would make alot more sense... ;)

And I thought that shivans wanted to take planets, not destroy them.

IC:

The mutalisks were broken like childrens toys when they got hit, but they returned fire, using their own natural weapons and the powerful grafted splinter cannon they had recieved, they would all die, but they would kill a few with them.

The Devourers and Guardians unleashed the mighty power of their attacks, powerful acids ate away at armor plating, while their deadly particle guns and Gauss flayers focused on capitol ships and fighters respectively, they would die as well, but they would fight to the last in defense of the hive.

The scourges were the deadliest weapon in the conflict above Andathat, they were so numerous that they could overwhelm any ships defenses, and they would damage anything they hit with their kamikaze attacks, turning themselves into plasma bombs when they hit an enemy ship, they were devestating against most other races, and the shivans would doubtless be no exception.

OOC: I assumed you would launch missiles, also you apparently don't understand the Shivans our goal is the extinction of man.

IC: The Shivan fleets anti-fighter weapons and missiles targeted the scourges many were destroyed, but some got threw, three Cain class cruisers were obliterated from the enemy fire. Acid hit the sheilds most of it not managing to get through. The enemy fire managed to bring down a Demon class destroyer and a Moloch corvette. The Shivan fleet continued to pour fire into the enemy defences.

OOC: I assumed you would launch missiles, also you apparently don't understand the Shivans our goal is the extinction of man.

IC: The Shivan fleets anti-fighter weapons and missiles targeted the scourges many were destroyed, but some got threw, three Cain class cruisers were obliterated from the enemy fire. Acid hit the sheilds most of it not managing to get through. The enemy fire managed to bring down a Demon class destroyer and a Moloch corvette. The Shivan fleet continued to pour fire into the enemy defences.

OOC: There are very few "men" on the planet below, it's mostly Zerg and Slivers, with a few Terrans and Protoss, you'd be better served to take them out on the ground than by trying to glass the planet, you'd kill quite a few creatures that would most likely qualify as "not human", and that would be bad, plus, where's the fun in just glassing planets, you've got ground units, use them.

Also, scourges are tiny, about the size of a zergling, which is about the size of a large dog, you might want to use the missie on the mutalisks and such instead of such small targets.

IC:

The mutalisks were giving as good as they got, laying into the fighters with vicious fury, blasting anything that was not of the swarm into oblivion if they could.

The guardians and devourers were faring poorly against the larger Shivan ships, there were fewer of them in numbers, but they were badly outgunned by the shivan forces, even so, they fought like demons, using splinter cannon and gauss flayers to their greatest effect, while their powerful acids continued their slow work.

ooc> Ekardia: Just so you know, you would not have actually been able to escape like that. The FTLi that was all around your position (as well as the entire sub-system) was far to powerfull to be broken by anything a ship could generate. However, since I am feeling benevolent and you have already continued on, I will let it slide. However, I would request that you allow 2 or 3 of your ships to be torn apart as they tried to break through a "weak spot" in my FTLi field to make up for it and so it makes more sense. With you permission, I will add it to this post later.

ic> The Shivan fleet, realizing that victory here would be all but impossible without massive losses, attempted to escape into sub-space. To the supprise of the High Marshal, James Harper, they were able to pull it off. They weren't sure what they lost when trying to break through the FTLi. They could, however, make the observation that they must have been on a weak spot near the perimeter of the field, which allowed them to succeed.

They left a present in the form of a few thousand mines. The destroyers pulled out in time to not get damaged. A few mine sweeper ships were sent in the clean up the mess.


As James Harper's staff kept track of the Shivan's movement, he was thinking of a plan. He only had 3 full Naval groups under his command. Most of them were needed to defend his special weapons projects. As a result of the fact that this conflict had only been going on for about a day and a half, AoN high command had yet to finish reviewing the data and organizing a force to take action, other than simply putting the war effort into Harper's hands. He was an able leader, but he needed ships.

Luckily, Harper had connections. He was good friends with an Admiral Nikita Skyler. She was the second highest commander in the Colonial Navy; she personally commanded a fleet which contained 4 full naval groups. She and her fleet had just returned from an engagement near a world in Obsideo space. (ooc> http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=429052&page=2&pp=15) He sent a message to her, asking her to come to the Warp Fortress and plan for the defence of Gronde and its allies. Harper knew that Nikita would accept; she never turned down a chance at honor.

Not long after, a Mini Miehm system came under attack. It was by the same Shivan fleet that had fled the Warp Fortress. The MET weapon still had some time before it could be used again. However, Harper still had one more trump card that could be played on short notice. And this one was an ace. Their pet Necrons. Within 5 minutes of the attack on MM, Harper had his specialists deploy a reasonably sized Necron force to the engagement sight.

The necron fleet that Harper deployed consisted of 2 Tomb Ships, 6 Harvester Ships, 40 Jackel Class Raiders, and 40 Dirge Class Raider. As soon as the Tomb Fleet teleported to the battle sight, a number of FTLi generators were also brought in. A huge ammount of energy was being broadcasted to these generators from the Star Ring to power them. The Shivans would not escape this time.

The Necron forces would need to get close to the enemy for their lightening arch weapons to come their own. The Dirge and Jackel raiders led the way, swarming the Shivans, followed by the larger Necron ships.


ooc>
Overview of the forces in the MM province:

Necron Forces:

2 Tomb Ships
6 Harvester Ships
40 Dirge Raiders
40 Jackel Raiders

Imperial Gronde Forces:

None as of yet.

Link to Necron section at my storefront: http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=750

OOC: NECRONS!!!! YAY!!! I'm gonna buy some of those things and use them againstthe Shivans, I'll even dust off my DE forces for this, cause things are starting to get interesting.

OOC: NECRONS!!!! YAY!!! I'm gonna buy some of those things and use them againstthe Shivans, I'll even dust off my DE forces for this, cause things are starting to get interesting.

ooc> For the sake of making sense in the NS universe, you should try to stick with one, or more compatable, architypes for your military. For example, combining elements from the Terrans from SC, Manticore from Honorverse, and the rebels from SW is fine, because they all have similarities and are mainly human. However, Terrans, Zerg, Slivers, and DE are very different and rathar incompatible under one nation, especially one of your size, without a very detailed explanation Just a thought.

ooc> For the sake of making sense in the NS universe, you should try to stick with one, or more compatable, architypes for your military. For example, combining elements from the Terrans from SC, Manticore from Honorverse, and the rebels from SW is fine, because they all have similarities and are mainly human. However, Terrans, Zerg, Slivers, and DE are very different and rathar incompatible under one nation, especially one of your size, without a very detailed explanation Just a thought.

OOC: I have one: Expediency, the Zerg\Slivers and Protoss work with the Terrans because the Terrans give them a say in things, the DE work with the Terrans because the Terrans give them shelter(protection from external prosecution inside Mini Miehms borders), in exchange for protection from being raided, and a small mercenary army. I mostly treat the DE forces as hired Mercs, not like actual members of my citizenry, does that make more sense now?

Shivan cruisers and corvettes continued to fight against the MM forces while the rest of the fleet began to engage the Necrons, they had fought them before and had faired well against them. The Ravannas engaged the Jackals and Dirges, while the Demon class destroyers fired on the Harvesters. Two of the Sathanas's fired subsonic pulses at one of the tomb ships. The other eight fired their heavy beam cannons at them. Thousands of anti-matter missiles streaked towards one of the Harvesters.

OOC: Gronde would it be possible for me to awaken the Necron lord?
MM you are using to many different types of techs.

ooc> Ekardia: Technically you could try to awaken the Lord. You would need to get to him though. And if you thought that the road to the Warp Fortress was too much, your going to have a hard time in the Necron system.

Also, you have fought the Necrons during the testing phase. Now they are fully under our controll and are at full power. You will see the difference.

ic> The Necron fleet surged towards the Shivans despite enemy fire. The anti-matter missiles proved a threat to the Harvester. However, using a combination of unhuman efficiency and human creativity, they reacted to the threat as soon as the missiles were launched. Three of the other Harvesters moved in to help. They emmitted broad energy waves to destroy many of the missiles before they made it to them. The remaining missiles were forced to hit multiple Harvesters instead of just one. The damage was light.

The Tomb ship targeted took med/heavy damage from the Sathanas. Its sheilds and armor helped it withstand the attacks. That ship stayed back to regenerate and repair. One of the Harvesters was damaged by heavy enemy fire and also stayed back to repair. Now it was their turn. The had gotten up close and the Raider's weapons went in to shred the Shivan ships. The Ravannas attempted to engage them, but were not able to target them effectively. Only 3 jackals were destroyed. The Harvesters came in next. They opened fire as well, but they and the Tomb ships were there to absorb firepower, which they were doing. The Raiders would do the real damage. Not even the Shivans would be able to stand up to them at close range.

Shivan cruisers and corvettes continued to fight against the MM forces while the rest of the fleet began to engage the Necrons, they had fought them before and had faired well against them. The Ravannas engaged the Jackals and Dirges, while the Demon class destroyers fired on the Harvesters. Two of the Sathanas's fired subsonic pulses at one of the tomb ships. The other eight fired their heavy beam cannons at them. Thousands of anti-matter missiles streaked towards one of the Harvesters.

OOC: Gronde would it be possible for me to awaken the Necron lord?
MM you are using to many different types of techs.

OOC: No such thing as too many tech bases, as long as you can have a good reason for them co-existing, and I do. Plus I only use 4(Honorverse, SC, 40k, M:TG), I've seen nations with more than just 4 tech bases before, Azaha for example uses Tyranids, Alien Xenomorphs, and Zerg, as well as something else I think. And the DE are for something else entirely, they won't be involved in this fight at all, so don't get your panties in a twist.

EDIT: I just figured out the actual connection between all my tech bases, they're all Galactic misfits, the Terrans all started as prisoners, my Protoss are all Dark Templar, DE are DE, The Manticorans are so crazy it's not even funny(well, it really is, them and the Graysons are a riot, but that's beside the point) All my tech bases are intergalactic fuck-ups, that's what they have in common.

IC:

The Guardians and Devoureres were holding their own now that most of the pressuere was taken off of them by the Necrons appearance, they used their weapons to best advantage, acid-balls targeting weaknesses in the ships armor, while cannon flayed away at the enemy shields, mutalisks fought the Shivan fighters, their grafted weapons and armor protecting them better than any shield.

Below the combat in space, two massive constructs made ready to fight, their guns were easilyy capable of leaving the atmosphere, and they would be put to good use against the heavier Shivan units above the planet, Bun-Bun the SheVa gun was in business.

OOC2: Bun-Bun is not mounted with a normal SheVa cannon, instead Bun-Bun has a larger Grav-Gun, capable of hitting anything it can target, so long as the gun has the right angle of fire.

As the Shivan attack continued they realized the Necrons were more powerful than before, but that changed nothing they would still be destroyed. All the cruisers corvettes, and Ravannas in the fleet began to coordinate its fire on the Jackal raiders, with every thing they had. Missiles beam cannons, and flak guns targeted them. Two Cain class cruisers and one moloch corvette went down under the enemy fire. The Demon class destroyers concentrated their fire one the Guardians and Devourers. The Lucifers' mighty flux cannons targeted them as well. All of the Sathanas' targeted one MM ship after another combining all their fire power, the MM forces wouldn't last much longer.

ooc> I will make my post soon.

As the Shivan attack continued they realized the Necrons were more powerful than before, but that changed nothing they would still be destroyed. All the cruisers corvettes, and Ravannas in the fleet began to coordinate its fire on the Jackal raiders, with every thing they had. Missiles beam cannons, and flak guns targeted them. Two Cain class cruisers and one moloch corvette went down under the enemy fire. The Demon class destroyers concentrated their fire one the Guardians and Devourers. The Lucifers' mighty flux cannons targeted them as well. All of the Sathanas' targeted one MM ship after another combining all their fire power, the MM forces wouldn't last much longer.

The guardian and devourer targeting computers were the best advantage Bun-Bun had, normally a She Va gun was unable to target anything out of the atmosphere, but with the relays from the fighters above the planet the crew could hit any target they could reach, and they could reach anything in the inner-system, so the Sathanas' were cold meat once the first round left the barrel, quickly followed by 7 more, unloading the guns magazines and putting 8 powerful DU\AM penetrators into space at nearly .3c.

The few units remaining above the planet fought hard, dodging enemy fire and returning it with interest, they had to survive until the Necrons could deal with the invading Shivan forces, their powerful weapons were better than all but 2 of the zerg mounted guns, the Splinter Cannon and the Gauss Flayers, the rest of te zerg weapons were far inferior to the necron Gauss and particle guns.

ic> The Necron Jackal raider were comming under heavy fire now. It was a move both smart and foolish of the enemy at the same time. While the larger Necron ships could not dodge enemy fire, they could take huge damages before being disabled. The Jackal raiders were still slower than the Dirges, but they were also larger and could take more damage and were fast enough to pull out after taking a certain amount of damage. This tactic helped but did not save them every time. A jackal here and there would get taken out by a final, more powerfull blast. That or be gunned down while attempting to flee. About 3 more Jackals were taken out (there remains would be shipped back for repair once the battle was over and the FTLi was down), with 4 more damaged but quickly returning to the fight after self-repairing. The second Tomb Ship was already moving forward again, its primary repairs complete.

The non-damaged Tomb Ship had made it into grips with the enemy, shortly following the Harvesters. The harvester ships had already proceeded to ram the enemy and fire their short range yet powerfull Partical Flares once in contact. The Tombship powered up its amazingly powerfull main weapon, the super-heavy Guass Partical Lance; it was powerfull enough to heavily damage an Obsidian Class Superfortress. It fired a shot at one of the 5km Juggarnauts as it came up close.

Meanwhile, a team of 6 Shroud Class light cruisers teleported in just outside of the FTLi. At their speed, they would be able to make it to the enemy in a few minutes, a mission which they immediately began.

OOC: Gronde I think I'm gonna ignore the Necrons I don't like the fact that they can self repair themselves so quickly.

OOC: Gronde I think I'm gonna ignore the Necrons I don't like the fact that they can self repair themselves so quickly.

OOC: They can be destroyed, it just takes effort. Or is it that you have an issue with anything that might actually be able to beat you? If you can use Shivan tech, and I can use bastardized tech from 4 sources, and Azaha can use the three biological swarms of Sci-Fi fame, then why can't Geronde use necrons, he doesn't have many of them, I have swarms of combatants, they heal pretty damn fast, why can't grondes?

OOC: I said I was thinking about it I never said I was going to.

IC: The targeted Sathanas' sheilds held for a moment then fell, the blast ripped through one hull after another damaging the ship critically, it was not out of the fight completely. Immediately seeing the error of only targeting the Jackals ships began to select new targets. Four of the undamaged Juggernauts fired subsonic pulses at the tomb ship that had just fired its heavy gauss cannon. The other five undamaged ones opened up on it with beam and laser cannons along with nearly one thousand anti-matter missiles.

Ravanna destroyers, and Cain class cruisers continued to fire on the Jackals and Dirges with the added support of 375 fighters and bombers. Demon class destroyers and Moloch corvettes along with 450 fighters and bombers contiued to hammer the Mini Miehm fleet.

OOC: Gronde I think I'm gonna ignore the Necrons I don't like the fact that they can self repair themselves so quickly.


ooc> Take it easy MM. Lol

Anyways, you need to understand that the force you are fighting represents a large chunk major project that has been conducted by the AoN (over a dozen nations have put in capital for the project) for over 200 NS years, probobly closer to 300. Granted, there is always a limit to how much, how often, and how many times they can repair in a certain period of time. I have a feeling that you are talking about the Tombship that you hit. Realize that it takes a huge amount of firepower to really bring one of these things down. Plus, it's not fully repaired yet, just enough to be able to continue forward while other repairs are being finished. The Raiders repair fast because they are small. They are easier to destroy though, you will likely see many more losses from them as the battle goes on. (especially if you do something very rudimentary to deal with them)

So I conclude, it's not that they are overpowered, it is just that you don't know how to deal with them tactically. Which, might I add, is why I brought them in. Just think about how to deal with them. I'm not going to help you because, obviously, I want to win. Always try to outsmart your opponant, instead of just shooting an ignore at them. Ask MM, when I saw what is Honorverse ships could do, I didn't call him a godmodder, I thought my way out of it. Do the same, and if you can't; don't be afraid of defeat. I'm not. I have been trying to get my empire burned down for months. Lol.

In short, please reconsider.

OOC: Gronde Ive decided not to ignore them.

OOC: I said I was thinking about it I never said I was going to.

IC: The targeted Sathanas' sheilds held for a moment then fell, the blast ripped through one hull after another damaging the ship critically, it was not out of the fight completely. Immediately seeing the error of only targeting the Jackals ships began to select new targets. Four of the undamaged Juggernauts fired subsonic pulses at the tomb ship that had just fired its heavy gauss cannon. The other five undamaged ones opened up on it with beam and laser cannons along with nearly one thousand anti-matter missiles.

Ravanna destroyers, and Cain class cruisers continued to fire on the Jackals and Dirges with the added support of 375 fighters and bombers. Demon class destroyers and Moloch corvettes along with 450 fighters and bombers contiued to hammer the Mini Miehm fleet.

ooc> You beat me to the post. Lol. We posted an the same minute. But still, I figure it still needed to be said.

ic> The Raiders continued to swarm around the Shivan fleet. The enemy had changed their firing tactics and began targetting both Jackals and Dirges. The enemy capital ships' shots were still being dodged efficiently by both types of raiders. The enemy fighters and bombers, however, were proving to be quite a problem. Though the number of fighter class craft the enemy was using was low, they were still able to provide a tactical problem for the Raiders, who now had to worry about dogfighting with the small fighters and evading the larger Shivan guns.

One particularly spectacular display was two Dirges being chased by a group of fighters and bombers. The Dirges, though fast and agile and possessing inhuman efficiency, were not able to shake off the group of fighters. They swept under the damaged Sathana, flaying its hull further with their weapons as they passed. A Jackal came in from the side and fired its Lightening archs at the enemy fighter, using its area-of-effect nature to its advantage against the many small targets. It did not arrive before one of the Dirges was destroyed, its wreckage floating in space. The other Dirge took quick advantage and turned fast around to flay any remaining fighter craft. Ironically, the Dirge was shot down right after by a Shivan destroyer; the Jackal got off damaged and fled near a Harvester ship to repair. It wasn't long before the Necron Raiders began activating small robotic units that were being dropped out of the Raiders and would seek and latch onto persuing fighters and then detonate. Even with this, several Raiders were lost or damaged.

The Shrouds closed in on the battle at an amazing speed. They all surged in and focused their firepowere on one of the Sathanas before attempting to clear out some more fighters. The battle was still not looking good for the outnumbered and outgunned Necrons; they were fighting a war of attrition in which victory did not seem likely at that point.

4 Behemoth Class Carriers (the 2 KM ones), 10 Hunter Destroyers, and 6 Light Carriers (the 1.5 Km ones) had massed up on the boarder of the FTLi which encased the battle; some of Nikita's ships! They stayed in their own FTLi protected position. They quickly launched a huge payload of fighters, lancers, and bombers; all of them were now heading towards the battle.

ooc> Fighters and bombers:

200 Strike Bombers
200 Tac. Bombers
200 Heavy Bombers
200 Lancers
200 Thunderhawks
200 Shining Spear Fighters

The Shivans began to notice more and more raiders being destroyed now that fighters and bombers were engaging them, so the Iblis carriers released their remaining fighters. The Juggernauts continued to fire on the tombship, the Demons, Molochs and Lucifers were still attacking Mini Miehm ships, while Ravannas, Cains,the 10 Iblis' and now 1000 more fighters and bombers attacked Jackals. But the newly arrived fleet was not ignored, 2 Ravannas, 4 cains and another 1000 fighters went towards the enemy fighters that were now headed for the battle.

OOC: Ship numbers
2 Lucifers
10 Sathanas
10 Iblis
19 Ravannas
29 Demons
37 Molochs
43 Cains
3500 fighters and bombers

ooc> What effect did the 6 shroud class ships have on the Sathanna they fired on?

ic> The Shivans launched even more fighters to deal with the Raiders. Luckily, their pressence was offset by the arrival of the Shrouds. They were exelent screening vessels, and proceeded to cut into the groups of enemy fighters and support the Raiders. The forward Tomb ships was taking a pounding. Having diverted its shielding power mainly to the forward shields, it wasn't until the second volly hit did it start taking major damage. It moved back to repair and let the second one, now mostly repaired itself, move ahead. It proceeded to fire its main gun at a different Sathanna.

Two teams of two Harvesters moved in and each group rammed into a Lucifer. Each of them quickly fired off their main weapons into said crafts. The combined effect of the collision and the close range of the Necron weapon would be more destructive and the Tombships weapons, just from one Harvester.

The Fighter and Bomber grouping did not move the engage the shivans heading for the carrier's position. They actually evaded them purposefully and joined the main battle between the Shivans and the Necrons. The Shining spears moved in and used their speed and agility to take on the Shivan fighters. The bombers swept in and targetted the Sathannas with their gauss powered anti-matter harpoon torpedos. A massive wave of these armor peircing torpedos zipped towards the enemy at 3/4 the speed of light.

The ships heading towards Nikita's task force were not to be ignored. The craft already launched was not even close to the total carrying capacity of the monstrous carriers. A second group, the same as the first, was launched at the advancing Shivan ships. The bombers made their attack against the enemy capital ships while the Lancers and Shining Spears escorted them, protecting them from enemy fighters. Meanwhile, yet another group of fighters was launched. It consisted of 200 Tac Fighters and 400 Tac Interceptors. They were preparing to stop Shivan bombers in case they came too close.

ooc>

A little overview to prevent confusion:

My Necron forces are engaged with the main body of the Shivan fleet. That same group is fighting the Necrons and the MM forces. There is also a separate group of Shivans moving away to engage the carrier group, which is about 2 minutes away.

The first group of Gronde fighters and bombers headed straight for the main engagement (between the Necrons with MM and the Shivans), and have proceeded to bomb the Juggernouts with their powerfull anti-matter Rail Gun powered torpedos. A second group of Gronde fighters and bobmers identical to the first was launched at the smaller Shivan group moving in to engage the carriers.

Is everything making sense?
I will overview my losses next post.

ooc> Take it easy MM. Lol

Anyways, you need to understand that the force you are fighting represents a large chunk major project that has been conducted by the AoN (over a dozen nations have put in capital for the project) for over 200 NS years, probobly closer to 300. Granted, there is always a limit to how much, how often, and how many times they can repair in a certain period of time. I have a feeling that you are talking about the Tombship that you hit. Realize that it takes a huge amount of firepower to really bring one of these things down. Plus, it's not fully repaired yet, just enough to be able to continue forward while other repairs are being finished. The Raiders repair fast because they are small. They are easier to destroy though, you will likely see many more losses from them as the battle goes on. (especially if you do something very rudimentary to deal with them)

So I conclude, it's not that they are overpowered, it is just that you don't know how to deal with them tactically. Which, might I add, is why I brought them in. Just think about how to deal with them. I'm not going to help you because, obviously, I want to win. Always try to outsmart your opponant, instead of just shooting an ignore at them. Ask MM, when I saw what is Honorverse ships could do, I didn't call him a godmodder, I thought my way out of it. Do the same, and if you can't; don't be afraid of defeat. I'm not. I have been trying to get my empire burned down for months. Lol.

In short, please reconsider.

OOC: He he he, my Honorverse ships are tough nuts to crack, aren't they?

OOC: Ok, let's see, what do I have left...

1300 Mutalisks with Boltcannon or Lascannon
2000 Guardians with Gauss Flayers
1000 Guardians with Splinter Cannon
3000 Devourers with Missile Pods and Phase Disruption Cannon


From:

10000 Mutalisks with Boltcannon or Lascannon
5000 Guardians with Gauss Flayers
5000 Guardians with Splinter Cannon
5000 Devourers with Missile pods and Phase Disruption Cannon

IC:

The surviving Guardians were dodging the fire as best they could, they avoided most of the enemy fire that came their way, but there was enough that some could not escape, many fell to the enemy barrages, but many more survived, unleashing the power of their weapons on the attacking fighters and the lighter capitol ships, the Destroyers and Cruisers, while the Devoreres turned their powerful weapons against the medium capitol ships, finally unleashing their missiles against the unsuspecting attackers, followed by their powerful Phase Disruption Cannon, capable of shaking a Dreadnought apart at a molecular level, the remaining Mutalisks were hard hit by the attacking fighters, but their bolters and Lascannon were taking their toll, they would defend the high orbitals of this world from the attacks of the Shivans. As tyhe forces swirled and fought above the planet, 9 bolts of lightining flashed through the formations, DU shells from a SheVa GravCannon, targeting the Sathanas Juggernauts from the planet below.

The Shivans were now beginning to get hit hard, the Sathanas and Lucifers continued to pour fire into the Tombship, 6 pulses were fired into it along with volley after volley of thousands of antimatter missiles. The Shrouds had attacked the damaged Sathanas and it was now preparing to go down, it went towards the planet and the location of MM's guns that had fired into space. It fired all of its weapons along the way, including one final subsonic pulse. 4 of the shots from the enemies ground weaponry hit the Sathanas it was now dead but it continued to plummet towards the planet, caught in its gravity.

The rest of the fleet continued to fight on two harvesters rammed the Lucifers normally ships doing this would be sucked into subspace by the ships sheilds, but this time one of the Lucifers sheilds had failed. The ship was devastated by the blast one of it reactors got hit in the attack and it exploded. One Moloch corvette and several wings of fighters were ccaught in the massive explosion and instantly disentegrated. The Shivan fleet headed for the carrier group began dealing with the enemy fighters, this was what the Ravannas and Cains were made for, their flak batteries, laser cannons and AAA beam cannons opened up on the enemy fighters.

The Shivans had decided it was time to call in reinforcements, soon a fleet larger and much more powerful than the one already in the system would arrive. They would destroy the carrier group and then head for the main battle.

OOC: MM can the Du shells be shot down, and are your forces in the system fighter size?

ooc> Ekardia: We are fighting in a FTLi field that I put up as soon as my forces entered the battle. Your subspace shielding wouldn't be able to work.

The Shivans were now beginning to get hit hard, the Sathanas and Lucifers continued to pour fire into the Tombship, 6 pulses were fired into it along with volley after volley of thousands of antimatter missiles. The Shrouds had attacked the damaged Sathanas and it was now preparing to go down, it went towards the planet and the location of MM's guns that had fired into space. It fired all of its weapons along the way, including one final subsonic pulse. 4 of the shots from the enemies ground weaponry hit the Sathanas it was now dead but it continued to plummet towards the planet, caught in its gravity.

The rest of the fleet continued to fight on two harvesters rammed the Lucifers but were sucked into subspace by the ships sheilds. The Shivan fleet headed for the carrier group began dealing with the enemy fighters, this was what the Ravannas and Cains were made for, their flak batteries, laser cannons and AAA beam cannons opened up on the enemy fighters.

The Shivans had decided it was time to call in reinforcements, soon a fleet larger and much more powerful than the one already in the system would arrive. They would destroy the carrier group and then head for the main battle.

OOC: MM can the Du shells be shot down, and are your forces in the system fighter size?

OOC: If you can hit something going at about .3-.5c, then yes, they can be shot down, but, that's one third to one half of lightspeed, so I doubt you can take them down. Also, did I forget to mention the AM cores in each of those penetrators?(seriously, I'm not sure if I told you or not)

The Mutalisks are fighter size, the Guardians and Devourers are larger, but not the size of a capitol ship, closer to one of my LACs.

uh oh, a new fleet's coming for me, hmm, time to call in the Admiral...

IC:

The subspace pulse was interdicted by a mutalisk wing, they were all destroyed, but the planet was safe, due to the range at which the gap had been created in the wave.

The Bolo was damaged, it's mighty shields were overwhelmed and it had a gouge scored along its flank, a deep one, almost a fatal hull-breach, but it survived, and it brought its twin 30cm hellbores into play, blasting at the Sathanas that was being sucked down by the gravity well, it would shatter the damaged hulk to prevent as much damage as possible to the world below.

The SheVa gun had been reloaded, it fired again, 9 more shells raced up its barrel and into space, targeting another Sathanas, the big ships had no time to dodge these powerful and fast moving rounds.

The remainder of the Homestar fleet was fighting to the death, only 1000 mutralisks remained, but the Guardians and Devoureres were tougher, blasting anything that came close, and using their natural weapons as well, anything without shields would be badly damaged by the powerful acids of the twin Mutalisk Aspects.

OOC: MM you didn't tell me what the Am cores are, Gronde FTLi generally dosn't affect subpsace sheilding, if you can remember the last battle between the shivans and necrons IB rammed a tombship with a ss sheilded ship with several active FTLis in the battle zone.

IC: The DU rounds tore through the targeted Sathanas escape pods were launched and quickly retreived. The fleet had realized the danger of the enemy ground battery and was starting to move out of its range. The ships continued to fire at enemy ships as they moved away from the planet. Several dropships, escorted by nearly one hundred fighters moved towards the planet.

OOC: MM I'm gonna post some important info about the shivans in the OOC thread

OOC: MM you didn't tell me what the Am cores are, Gronde FTLi generally dosn't affect subpsace sheilding, if you can remember the last battle between the shivans and necrons IB rammed a tombship with a ss sheilded ship with several active FTLis in the battle zone.

IC: The DU rounds tore through the targeted Sathanas escape pods were launched and quickly retreived. The fleet had realized the danger of the enemy ground battery and was starting to move out of its range. The ships continued to fire at enemy ships as they moved away from the planet. Several dropships, escorted by nearly one hundred fighters moved towards the planet.

OOC: MM I'm gonna post some important info about the shivans in the OOC thread

OOC: Well, my DU penetrators(I assume you know that that means Depleted Uranium) are cored withg Anti-Matter, and they detonate after penetration, tearing things all to shit in the process, and the kinetinc impact is nothing to sneeze at either.

Out of Bun-Buns range is out of the system, or the far side of the planet, it can hit anything it can target, due to firing bullets at a respectable fraction of the speed of light, and it can target anything my units are engaging.

IC:

The Dropships were brought under fire by the Bolos twin Hellbores, it couldn't destroy them all, but it could destroy some of them, and some of them wuld be enough to let the defenders keep this world.

The SheVa gun was in the process of reloading, but its secondaries brought anything in range under fire, using particle disruption cannon and Lascannons to take down anything near enough to be hit.

The Guardians and Devourers took the fight to the enemy, unleashing the missiles that the Devourers had held back for so long, followed by the powerful phase disruption cannon, the Guardians simply pounded out their splinter and lascannon bolts at the same rate as ever, hurling energy into the enemy shields.

The mutalisks were fighting for their lives, bringing every move they could use to bear against the attacking fighters, thwey used their biological glave wurms with as much skill as their larger aspects wielded their powerful acids, and their bolters tore targets out of space when they made contact, all they had to do was wait for the Admiral to arrive, they would not be able to stop White Haven and his Eighth Fleet.

OOC2: He he he, Gronde has met the Admiral before, and he lost quite a few fighters in the bargain, he almost lost a good deal of Battle Barges if I'd closed to missile range, but I stayed well out of his range, so we had a fighter duel instead.

ooc> Ekardia: Yes, that was that battle. I have designed a more aggressive FTLi since then. (it was actually because of Corpsac's HSB tech, but it works here to)

OOC: Gronde if they are activated before the FTli feild is up it won't affect them, subspace sheilds hold the dimensional portals open. The Lucifers reactors are vast and more capable than whats powering your FTLis.

IC: The Shivan reinforcements had arrived and the fleet was huge. It included 2 Diablo Dreadnaughts and 4 more Lucifers. They were puleed out of subspace by Grondes FTLi feild, before they entered the battle though the Subspace sheilded ships retreated out of the FTLi's range so they could power up their sheilds. After that they activated their own FTLi it would remain on till the next fleet arrived then it would drop long enough for their allies to get through it, then power back up. The Shivans began jamming enemy communications as well. The fleet then began to move towards the carrier group, its own carriers dis gourging thousands of fighters as they went.


The small battle grup that was battling the enemy fighters was doing well, only one Cain had been destroyed and one other was seriuosly damaged. They moved towards the newly arrived Shivan fleet firing at the enemy fighters along the way.

The fleet fighting the Necrons continued to fight their best, but between the Necrons and the enemy ground weapon it wasn't looking good. The remaining Lucifer manuvered to bombard the location of the enemy ground emplacement with all its weapons. The Cains took their fire of the Jackals and began firing on the Devourers and Guardians, while the fighters and bombers continued to fight mutalisks and the necron raiders. The Sathanas continued to concentrate their fire on the tombship four more pulses were fired at it. The Demons began to fight against the Harvesters, firing at one at a time.

The Shivan forces that had landed on the planet began to sit up artillery to fire on the Sheva gun, 5,000 shivans had made the landing along with 10,000 droids that would be sent to assault the gun after the Lucifers ended their bombardment.

OOC: Gronde if they are activated before the FTli feild is up it won't affect them, subspace sheilds hold the dimensional portals open. The Lucifers reactors are vast and more capable than whats powering your FTLis.


ooc> Actually they are definately not. The FTLi here is being powered remotely by the Dyson Spere and the Star Ring. It has a power supply greater than 50 Lucifers put together. There is no way your Subspace Bubble Shielding would stay open. My gateways in my empire's systems would not even be able to withstand an FTLi this powerfull and aggressive. The offencive FTLi was designed specifically to deal with Subspace and Hyperspace bubble shielding, which are fundimentally the same. And I wish you wouldn't just disregard what I am saying and continue on with the RP as if I wouldn't have any objections.

OOC: Gronde if they are activated before the FTli feild is up it won't affect them, subspace sheilds hold the dimensional portals open. The Lucifers reactors are vast and more capable than whats powering your FTLis.

IC: The Shivan reinforcements had arrived and the fleet was huge. It included 2 Diablo Dreadnaughts and 4 more Lucifers. They were puleed out of subspace by Grondes FTLi feild, before they entered the battle though the Subspace sheilded ships retreated out of the FTLi's range so they could power up their sheilds. After that they activated their own FTLi it would remain on till the next fleet arrived then it would drop long enough for their allies to get through it, then power back up. The Shivans began jamming enemy communications as well. The fleet then began to move towards the carrier group, its own carriers dis gourging thousands of fighters as they went.


The small battle grup that was battling the enemy fighters was doing well, only one Cain had been destroyed and one other was seriuosly damaged. They moved towards the newly arrived Shivan fleet firing at the enemy fighters along the way.

The fleet fighting the Necrons continued to fight their best, but between the Necrons and the enemy ground weapon it wasn't looking good. Th etwo Lucifers manuvered to bombard the location of the enemy ground emplacement with all their weapons. The Cains took their fire of the Jackals and began firing on the Devourers and Guardians, while the fighters and bombers continued to fight mutalisks and the necron raiders. The Sathanas continued to concentrate their fire on the tombship four more pulses were fired at it. The Demons began to fight against the Harvesters, firing at one at a time.

The Shivan forces that had landed on the planet began to sit up artillery to fire on the Sheva gun, 5,000 shivans had made the landing along with 10,000 robots that would be sent to assault the gun after the Lucifers ended their bombardment.


The twin bombardment was too much for the Bolo to handle, its shields failed, and it took another deep gouge across its flintsteel prow, the SheVa gun was better protected, it had a land based shield generator, less susceptible to overload than the bolos portable shields, it still failed, and there was still a massive gouge across the illustration on its armored turret, but it would live to fight on.

Well out from the FTLi, a new fleet appeared, translating down from the Delta bands of Hyperspace, Eighth Fleet had arrived, its SD(p)s and Dreadnoughts would turn the tide of this battle, they would destroy the Shivan menace here, in this little backwater system, nothing would escape the Admirals wrath. CLACs deployed their squadrons, 90 LACs strong, they would drop like the hammers of hell on the Shivan fleets.f

The Zerg fought with redoubled fury, they had backup now, victory was in their grasp, nothing could defeat the might of the swarm and its allies, they continued to die, but they fought harder before death, some lasting long past the point where death should have claimed them, it had been mentioned that they resembled Terras mytholiogical Daemons, now they lived up to that description, fighting like the fires of hell were at their backs, uncaring about any damage they took, they just fought.

OOC: Gronde your damn Dyson sphere isn't even finished, and we could be millions of lightyears from the system its in, I don't see how the hell it can really even affect anything.

OOC: Gronde your damn Dyson sphere isn't even finished, and we could be millions of lightyears from the system its in, I don't see how the hell it can really even affect anything.

OOC: Approximatelt 19.7 LY from the Dyson sphere, my closest system to Gronde Territory.

OOC: Gronde your damn Dyson sphere isn't even finished, and we could be millions of lightyears from the system its in, I don't see how the hell it can really even affect anything.

ooc> Of coarse its not finished. If it was finished we would be talking millions of Lucifers. I doubt that this thing will get finished in another RL year. Also, you can remote broadcast energy from a long ways away, especially when its going through the warp. And given that it's only about 20 Light years away, it would be very easy.

OOC: Its only 5% complete, that usually meansstuff dosn't work, I'd like to end this argument and get back to the RP.

ooc> Of coarse its not finished. If it was finished we would be talking millions of Lucifers. I doubt that this thing will get finished in another RL year. Also, you can remote broadcast energy from a long ways away, especially when its going through the warp. And given that it's only about 20 Light years away, it would be very easy.


Wouldn’t broadcasting an FTLi through the warp not shut down the warp portal preventing the energy from reaching the warp? You’re in a paradox.. Personally I would expect it to create a horrible feedback wave blowing up the Dyson sphere, since all that energy has no choice but to return back to your sphere….

Wouldn’t broadcasting an FTLi through the warp not shut down the warp portal preventing the energy from reaching the warp? You’re in a paradox.. Personally I would expect it to create a horrible feedback wave blowing up the Dyson sphere, since all that energy has no choice but to return back to your sphere….

OOC: If the portal is more powerful than the FTLi, then it can defeat the FTLI, anything can be overwhelmed, and a Dyson Sphere has the power to overwhelm just about anything.

OOC: If the portal is more powerful than the FTLi, then it can defeat the FTLI, anything can be overwhelmed, and a Dyson Sphere has the power to overwhelm just about anything.

That's my point the Dyson Sphere is powering an FTLi which is going to close the portal which its transfering the energy through.

Its going to create a feedback loop blowing up or causing major damage to the sphere, after all, where is all the energy going to go when it can't power said FTLi?

That's my point the Dyson Sphere is powering an FTLi which is going to close the portal which its transfering the energy through.

Its going to create a feedback loop blowing up or causing major damage to the sphere, after all, where is all the energy going to go when it can't power said FTLi?

The Portal doesn't destroy the FTLi, it merely works within the FTLi, it's like there's a hole in it, the entire thing isn't destroyed, but thiongs can get through the hole.

As the portal is dimensional I am therefore assuming that your FTLi does not affect dimensional portals, therefore the Shivan subspace shields would be unaffected. But if it does affect dimensional portals then sadly, you close the portal where you get your energy from.

So which way is it, both ways the FTLi won’t work.

ooc> US: would you get the hell out of this thread and stop pretending to be a referee. God. I don't mean to sound like an asshole, and I apologize for doing so, but you pop in like you are the end-all voice on all matters Future Tech.

However, while your here, as we have descussed time and time again, US, my FTLi DOES work on dimentional portals. It always has; it's nothing new. MM got it preaty much right.

But I digress, I agree with Ekardia in that we need to move past this argument and get on with the RP. Therefore, I purpose that we compromise. Since I had 4 Harvesters, 2 ramming/attacking each Lucifer, I suggest that one of the Lucifers was still able to keep its Subspace shielding online before the Harvesters attempted to ram while the other was not. 50/50 split. Sound fair? The other two harvesters will probobly end up popping up somewhere a little ways away from the battle once they leave Sub-space.

ooc> US: would you get the hell out of this thread and stop pretending to be a referee. God. I don't mean to sound like an asshole, and I apologize for doing so, but you pop in like you are the end-all voice on all matters Future Tech.

However, while your here, as we have descussed time and time again, US, my FTLi DOES work on dimentional portals. It always has; it's nothing new. MM got it preaty much right.

But I digress, I agree with Ekardia in that we need to move past this argument and get on with the RP. Therefore, I purpose that we compromise. Since I had 4 Harvesters, 2 ramming/attacking each Lucifer, I suggest that one of the Lucifers was still able to keep its Subspace shielding online before the Harvesters attempted to ram while the other was not. 50/50 split. Sound fair? The other two harvesters will probobly end up popping up somewhere a little ways away from the battle once they leave Sub-space.

Ehh Ekardia asked me for advice old chap, and I would advise against a compromise, since your FTLi is currently working under a paradox, and wouldn’t shut down a subspace shield anyway, as, your power source would be cutting itself off, you have yet to give me and subsequently Ekardia an appropriate reason as to why your subspace shields are still working?

Ehh Ekardia asked me for advice old chap, and I would advise against a compromise, since your FTLi is currently working under a paradox, and wouldn’t shut down a subspace shield anyway, as, your power source would be cutting itself off, you have yet to give me and subsequently Ekardia an appropriate reason as to why your subspace shields are still working?

ooc> Ok, The generators are in ring around the perimeter of the field. The energy can be broadcasted to them without going through it.

OOC: Gronde since I wanat to continue this rp I will agree to the compromise, however the Harvesters tha ram the Lucifer with its SS sheilds up would be destroyed.

I'm going back and changing a few of my earlier posts, you should read them if you haven't.

ooc> Agreed.

The Shivans were now beginning to get hit hard, the Sathanas and Lucifers continued to pour fire into the Tombship, 6 pulses were fired into it along with volley after volley of thousands of antimatter missiles. The Shrouds had attacked the damaged Sathanas and it was now preparing to go down, it went towards the planet and the location of MM's guns that had fired into space. It fired all of its weapons along the way, including one final subsonic pulse. 4 of the shots from the enemies ground weaponry hit the Sathanas it was now dead but it continued to plummet towards the planet, caught in its gravity.

The rest of the fleet continued to fight on two harvesters rammed the Lucifers normally ships doing this would be sucked into subspace by the ships sheilds, but this time one of the Lucifers sheilds had failed. The ship was devastated by the blast one of it reactors got hit in the attack and it exploded. One Moloch corvette and several wings of fighters were ccaught in the massive explosion and instantly disentegrated. The Shivan fleet headed for the carrier group began dealing with the enemy fighters, this was what the Ravannas and Cains were made for, their flak batteries, laser cannons and AAA beam cannons opened up on the enemy fighters.

The Shivans had decided it was time to call in reinforcements, soon a fleet larger and much more powerful than the one already in the system would arrive. They would destroy the carrier group and then head for the main battle.

OOC: MM can the Du shells be shot down, and are your forces in the system fighter size?

ic> The main battle was intensifying. One Lucifer was destroyed by the Harvesters, though the other one still managed to keep its sub-space shielding online even within the FTLi. It would have to be dealt with. The two harvesters that had rammed it were sucked in and lost. The explosion from the destroyed Lucifer took out a few more raiders would were not able to get clear in time. The battle was quickly getting more destructive.

It was obvious that the Shivans really wanted the Tomb ships dead. They pounded the forward craft with volly after volly of firepower. The Tombships were indeed neary impossible to kill, but even the Necron technology was vulnerable to applications of the "big enough gun" tactics. The Tomb ships drove forward under immense firepower. Stopping right before the remaining Lucifer, not ramming it, remembering what happened their last battle, its battered form self-detonated; a massive shockwave and explosion swept the surrounding ships. 5 more raiders and a harvester were caught in the blast and were reduced to little more than space dust and little chunks of burning metal just by the concussive force. The Necron fleet was now down to 1 mildly damaged Tombship, 3 harvesters, 6 Shrouds, 14 Jackals, and 16 Dirges.

ooc> I don't remember if I actually RPed the first fighter and bomber group reaching the main battle, so I will do it now.

ic> Shortly following the explosion, the first Gronde fighter/bomber wave hit the main battle. They couldn't have arrived at a better time. The Lancers and flew point against the enemy fighters, using their longer range and more powerfull weapons to gun down as many fighter craft as they could before pulling out and attempting to make another run. Following the Tac. lancers were the Shining Spear Fighters, the most feared in the known universe. They exceled at dog-fighting and immediately began engaging enemy fighters in seek and destroy missions.

Flying point against the enemy capital ships, especially the Juggernauts, were the Thunderhawk gunships. They were heavily armored for fighters, and since these particular models were not designed as transports, their guns were stronger. They were used to both absorb enemy fire and to soften their enemy's shields for the bombers that followed. The bombers did what they did best. They fired their massive payloads of anti-matter torpedos at rail-gun speeds into various Shivan capital ships.

The sub-battle against the Shivans was slightly different. Though the number of enemies was smaller, there were other differences. The shivan group that was sent to take out the carriers was moving at a faster speed and they were not already engaged with Necron forces. The attack run was preaty much the same, though, except the pilotes were being a little more carefull.

On both attacks, Tac. fighters took the heaviest losses. They followed after the Thunderhawks, who also took heavy losses, and the Strike bombers. However, the Thunderhawks had more armour and teh Strike Bombers were able to dodge enemy attacks more easily. The Heavy bombers who went in last, so they met the least resistance.

Meanwhile, to prevent being jumped in on, the carrier group spread their own FTLi field around their position. Though it wasn't strong enough to give the Shivans sub-space shielding trouble, they would stop unwanted guests from jumping in too close.

ooc> Ekardia: I will make my official current losses list after your next post so I know exactly how you are dealing with the fighters.

The explosion from the tombships was huge it enveloped several cruisers and a Ravanna, and an Iblis in its destructive wake. The explosion was absorbed by the Lucifers sheilds, as it continued to bombard the Sheva gun. The remaining Sathanass targeted the Tombship with the aid of the Demons. The Ravannas, Cains and Iblis targeted the raiders and newly arrived fighters, this part of the battle was soon to be a mop up operation.

The task force that had been engaged by the enemeys fighters was doing well, 820 of the original 1000 fighters remained and only 2 Cains had been destroyed. They intensified their fire power concentrating on bombers.

The newly arrived reinforcements continued to head towards the carrier group the Diablos at the point of the formation. They began releasing their huge amounts of fighters and prepared their weapons for their coming battle.

OOC: Ship numbers

Fighting necrons
1 Lucifers
7 Sathanas
9 Iblis
17 Ravannas
28 Demons
34 Molochs
43 Cains
2770 fighters and bombers

Task force fighting fighters
1 Ravanna
2 Cains
820 fighters

Reinforcements
2 Diablos
4 Lucifers
8 Sathanas
12 Iblis
24 Ravannas
36 Demons
48 Molochs
56 Cains
6000 fighters and bombers

The enemy attacks were whittling away more steadi now that they were concentrating on the Guardians and their ilk, buit that meant they wre ignoring the Admiral, and he would be at the battle soon enough, accelerating at 600 gravities, he was pushing his compensators to the edge of their capabilities, but they were holding, and he was closing fast, already he began to decelerate, to prolong the engagement, while the powerful SD(p)s deployed their pods to every ship in the fleet, they would make one massive salvo, overwhelming any defenses the enemy might have, and then they would hammer at them from long range, taking out anything they could gang up on in enough numbers.

ooc> Ekardia: I thought that the Subspace bubble shields couldn't absorb concussive force.

IC post comming as soon as I have enough time to make a good one.

ooc> Sorry about the wait.


ic> The battle was continuing to slide further to the favor of the Shivans. The Necrons, though powerfull, lacked the flexibility to deal with Sub-space shielding such as what the remaining Lucifer had. A plan was hatched by James Harper's command staff on how to deal with it.

Luckily, Harper had some of the most specialized weapons that Gronde had to offer. It had taken some time, but Harper had been able to locate several specialized destroyers. They were designed not long after the last Shivan war, but were not put into production until much later. These formidable craft were based on the Hunter Destroyer chasis, but were armed with Torpedo Tubes instead of a Nova Cannon. They also came stocked with powerfull FTLi generating munitions. They were readied for deployment.

Meanwhile, the fighter group at the main battle were turning around to make one last pass over the Shivan ships. They focussed their fire more effectively that time, each bomber squadron combining their shots on one ship until it was brought down. They passed back through the battle and headed towards their carriers. However, this time, they intended to go right through the Shivan task force. The first group had lost about a third of their craft by the time they started their second pass over the main battle. They would likely be down to half by the time they made it to the Shivan Task force. Only the Shining spears from that group remained behind.

The second group had already been engaging the task force. Unfortunately, their success there was questionable. The task force seemed better equipped and prepared to handle fighters and bombers. Plus, there were no Necrons to distract the enemy fire. Even so, the amazing performances of the Shining Spears and their pilots were keeping them alive. While few Shining spears or Lancers were lost, the enemy was hitting the bombers hard; 25 strike bombers, 50 Tactical bombers, and 40 Heavy bombers had already been gunned down. Even more were taken out by the time their first pass was over. Once they were past the task force, they turned around and began heading back towards them. They were joined, as fit the plan, by the lancers, thunderhawks, and bombers from the first group. As one large Wing, they made their second attack run against the task force intent on overwhelming them with firepower.

From the Necrons side, things were not looking too good. The last Tombship was taking heavy damage, though it continued to plow forward. Relief was about to come for them, however. A team of 8 of the specially designed Torpedo Hunter Destroyers warped in just outside of the FLTi, the edge closest to the fight. Their task was simply. They surged forward, heading right for the Lucifer. The bombers were just passing through on their way back to the carriers when the destroyers aproached. The Destroyers fired off and impressive volly of FTLi torpedos at the Lucifer as they charged at it. The Tombship inched closer to the Lucifer itself. It fired off its main weapon to hit a few seconds after the torpedos. That would be its death cry, however, as it took its final hits moments later. Its explosion was equall to that of the last Tombship, 2 Hunter Destroyers were crippled from the blast. 4 more Jackal raiders were reduced to dust.

Following moments after the 8 destroyers, 40 more raiders arrived at about the same location. 20 were Jackals and 20 were Dirge. The new group sped into the fray to hopefully turn the tides. They knew the Shivans would surely send backup. Unfortunately, they knew neither when nor how much.

The Hunter Destroyers missiles tore threw the Lucifer, damaging it heavily the shot from the tombship following the barrage was all it took to desroy it. This Lucifers detonation was as bad as the first destroying anything that was near it. With the tombship gone the Sathanas began targeting the Hunter Desroyers concentrating fire on the two damaged ones. Ravannas and Cains continued to fire on the raiders with half of the remaining fighters supporting them. The other half fought against the Devourers, Guardians and mutalisks with the support of the Demons and Molochs.

The task force fighting the enemies fighters wasn't faring as well as it had earlier. Another Cain was downed. But now the enemyu pilots were ignoring the Shivan fighters. They began firing with every thing they had at their enemy counterparts.

The Shivan reinforcements had finally reached the carrier group. The Diablos, Lucifers and Sathanas began firing on the Behemeths, while Demons and Molochs fought with the Hunter destroyers and the light carriers. Fighters escorted bombers as they attacked the Carriers. Ravannas and Cains dealt with the enemy fighters.

ic> With all the remaining bombers now in one group and engaging the Shivan task force, they were having a better effect on the enemy capital ships. The bombers were taking heavy losses from enemy fighters, who seemed to be taking advantage of the Gronde bomber's concentration of Shivan capital ships. The Lancers and Shining Spears, however, had no such disposition. They swept in and did everything in their power to protect the bombers and eliminate enemy fighters.

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The battle between the Necrons and the Shivans was highlighted by another satisfying explosion as the second Lucifer was finally eliminated, though at the cost of the second Tomb Ship. The Shivan ships that were firing on the Tombship shifted over to the newly arrived Hunter Destroyers. The two damaged ships were wiped out easily. Another one took some damage, but was able to avoid any terminal damage. Due to the altered design of these Hunter Destroyers, they were not able to fight enemy capital ships effectively at close range. They focussed, instead, on enemy fighters; they still had their superb anti-fighter weapons.

With the help of the newly arrived Raiders and the screening of the destroyers, the Shining Spears and Raiders were able to start turning things around. The Dirge Raiders and Shining Spears continued to engage enemy fighters; the Jackal Class Raiders swarmed over the remaining Shivan capital ships. The losses were slowing down; only 2 Jackals were destroyed since the Tomb Ship was taken out.

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The Shivan reinforcements finally reached the carrier group. They were quick to act, however. The Hunter Destroyers moved in front of the carriers to engage the enemy while the carriers attempted to flee. Even so, two Behemoth and three light carriers were destroyed. Luckily (or not so), there would not be enough fighters returning to worry about docking space. The Hunter Destroyers, unable to escape through FTL means, stayed back and fought to the death against the Shivans. All of the Hunter Destroyers were destroyed in heroic fashion. The carriers headed towards the Necron's postion and contacted all of the fighters to inform them of the position change. Then, the trap was sprung.

Admiral Nikita Skyler had been waiting for the Shivan reinforcements to engage her forces. They could not have arrived at a better time or place. The Warp Fortress's powerfull anti-FTLi was activated long enough to activate the plan, it almost burned out in the process. It also set back the charging of the MET weapon by about 12 more hours Once the Shivan FTLi was taken care of, the plan was begun. It would be performed with the same timing and precision that was entwined with all Gronde military manuvers.

First, several thousand trademark anti-matter mines were warped in amoung the Shivan reinforcements.

Second, the bulk of Nikita's forces were Warped in on either side of the Shivan reinforcements. They were at a long range from the Shivans, though still within range of their forward guns. The fleet was split into two parts, each on one side of the enemy. They formed into a defencive firing position and fired off an intense volly as the third step was being commenced.

Third, the FTLi was reactivated in that area. Except this time, it was stronger and covering a larger area. It would prevent the Shivans from escaping as the Nikita's fleet closed in on them. The previously deployed carriers and destroyers rejoined the fleet.

ooc>
Nikita's fleet:

(two exact copies of the following are on each side. Does not include destroyers and carriers that teleported away)

2 Apocolypse Class Battleships
4 Empire Class Battleships
4 Leviathin Class Dreadnoughts
4 Empire Class Battlecruisers
4 Behemoth Class Carriers

8 Retribution Class Heavy Cruisers
8 Veangence Class Cruisers
10 Nova Class Super Frigates
10 Hunter Destroyers

10 Gronde Missile Frigates
10 Gronde Torpedo Frigates
10 Sword Class Gunships
10 Parranna Class Corvettes
16 Cobra Class Patroll Ships

OOC: Gronde your ships couldn't have left or arrived as I had an FTLi on.

ooc> Really? I must have missed it. I have a way around it, I just didn't realize that you posted anything about your FTLi. I am short on time right now, but I can edit it as soon as possible.

ooc> My post has been edited. All in all, its about the same, though I specified how the FTLi was dealt with. To be as fair as possible I also added the losses of several more ships. (all the hunters in the carrier group are now destroyed) The carriers never teleported in the first place and are attempting to rout towards the Necron postions. Sorry for the inconvenience.

The Shivan fleet that had attacked the carrier group was surprised by the appearance of the Gronde reinforcements, but not scared. The ship leading the assault sent a message, and Shivan battle groups began appearing everywhere in the system, breaking throught the FTLi feild. One fleet appeared behind each one of Grondes reinforcement fleets. Two more came out of subspace behind the Necron fleet and Hunter-destroyers. A very small task force appeared behind Anadats original defenders, and another much larger appeared behind the Admirals newly arrived fleet.

The fleets behing the hunter-destroyers and Necrons opened up with everything they had. Thousands of newly arrived fighters engaged their enemy counter parts and the raiders, with the aid of Cains and Ravannas. The Demons and the Sathanas concentrated their fire on the harvesters and Shrouds.

With the support of the newly arrived reinforcements fleet that had been battle Necrons was able to divert more of its ships to attack the MM defenders 10 Demons and 4 Ravannas began engaging them. The Ravannas, Iblis(p), and Cains began firing on the Raiders with everything they had.

The small task force behind the MM defenders began firing and releasing fighters as soon as they came out of subspace. The force was made up of six Ravannas, twelve demons, sixteen Molochs, twenty Cains and 400 fighters.

The fleet that came in the system behind the Admiral opened fire with thousands of anti-matter missiles and laser cannons. Two thousand fighters also began attacking the Mm ships.

The fleets that came behind Grondes reinforcements began pouring fire into the enemy ships, fighters began attacking enemy fighters and bombers. The Ravannas began concentrating their fire on the smaller enemy capital ships. The Demons began firing on the medium size capital ships, while Sathanas(p) began firing pulses at the largest ships.

The fleet that the Gronde reinforcements had attacked began firing on the mines half of them were shot down but the rest made it through, cruisers crovettes destroyers and even one Iblis succumbed to the powerful mines. After the mines were gone they began firing on the enemy ships using the same tactics their reinforcements had used.

Lightyears away a fleet appeared 300 meters from the MET, 5 star destroyers but by Shivan allies and loaded with explosives moved to ram the MET, along with 10 Cains and 2000 droid star fighters all loaded with explosives. 4000 mines also came through and targeted the space stations. RRC carriers relaesed 100 RRCs(cube shaped Remote razor cannons, a cannon on each corner) The RRCs began firing on the MET and Gronde ships that were in the area. 6 Demon sdestroyers the only ships on this mission crewed by Shivans on this mission escorted the ships on their way in.

OOC: Ill post again in a few hours to explain how I got past the FTLI feilds and maybe give ship numbers.

The Shivan fleet that had attacked the carrier group was surprised by the appearance of the Gronde reinforcements, but not scared. The ship leading the assault sent a message, and Shivan battle groups began appearing everywhere in the system, breaking throught the FTLi feild. One fleet appeared behind each one of Grondes reinforcement fleets. Two more came out of subspace behind the Necron fleet and Hunter-destroyers. A very small task force appeared behind Anadats original defenders, and another much larger appeared behind the Admirals newly arrived fleet.

The fleets behing the hunter-destroyers and Necrons opened up with everything they had. Thousands of newly arrived fighters engaged their enemy counter parts and the raiders, with the aid of Cains and Ravannas. The Demons and the Sathanas concentrated their fire on the harvesters and Shrouds.

With the support of the newly arrived reinforcements fleet that had been battle Necrons was able to divert more of its ships to attack the MM defenders 10 Demons and 4 Ravannas began engaging them. The Ravannas, Iblis(p), and Cains began firing on the Raiders with everything they had.

The small task force behind the MM defenders began takinfiring and releasing fighters as soon as they came out of subspace. The force was made up of six Ravannas, twelve demons, sixteen Molochs, 20 Cains and 400 fighters.
The fleet that came in the system behind the Admiral opened fire with thousands of anti-matter missiles and laser cannons. Two thousand fighters began attacking the Mm ships.

The fleets that came behind Grondes reinforcements began pouring fire into the enemy ships, fighters began attacking enemy fighters and bombers. The Ravannas began concentrating their fire on the smaller enemy capital ships. The Demons began firing on the medium size capital ships, while Sathanas(p) began firing pulses at the largest ships.

The fleet that the Gronde reinforcements had attacked began firing on the mines half of them were shot down but the rest made it through, cruisers crovettes destroyers and even one Iblis succumbed to the powerful mines. After the mines were gone they began firing on the enemy ships using the same tactics their reinforcements had used.

Lightyears away a fleet appeared 300 meters from the MET, 5 star destroyers but by Shivan allies and loaded with explosives moved to ram the MET, along with 10 Cains and 2000 droid star fighters all loaded with explosives. 4000 mines also came through and targeted the space stations. RRC carriers relaesed 100 RRCs(cube shaped Remote razor cannons, a cannon on each corner) The RRCs began firing on the MET and Gronde ships that were in the area. 6 Demon sdestroyers the only ships on this mission crewed by Shivans on this mission escorted the ships on their way in.

OOC: Ill post again in a few hours to explain how I got past the FTLI feilds and maybe give ship numbers.

OOC: Is that targeting the planetary space defenses, or are they going after the ground forces?(in bold)

IC:

The emergence from Sub-Space was detected, the Admiral immediately rolled his ships, presenting the impenetrable belly aspects of his impeller wedges to the attacking forces, but many ships were too slow, and were chewed by the missiles and energy weapons that were coming at them, few were destroyed, but many were badly damaged by the incoming fire.

The surviving Guardians and Devoureers were being hammered, but they would soon have back-up, Shrike and Ferret LACs from the Admirals fleet were on their way to reinforce the faltering defenses of the high orbitals, they would be able to shred almost anything they faced through overwhelming firepower and numbers, the few heavy units sent against them would be swarmed and destroyed.

The Admiral fought back, unleashing double broadside at the encroaching enemies, firing from off-axis to keep his ships safe, the powerful missiles would detonate within 25,000 kilometers of their targets, pumping powerful X-Ray lasers into the attacking ships, while the waited for the fools to close to energy range.

OOC: Ill post again in a few hours to explain how I got past the FTLI feilds and maybe give ship numbers.

ooc> Well I certainly hope so. I have a strong hunch of what it is you are using. If I am even remotely close to being right, it would not have worked out as easily as you posted it to be. But I will let you tell me what's going on first, though. (I don't plan on posting until then, either)

OOC: MM they are attacking the devourers, guardians and mutalisks.

My ships have a sustainer device that relies on a gravity sensor to alert ships of an impending FTLi feild. When the feild is detected it iniates a rapid shut down of the subspace drive. At the same time it creates a static subspace bubble which while incabable of creating thrust holds the ship in subspace while it is carried forward by momentum.

OOC: MM they are attacking the devourers, guardians and mutalisks.

My ships have a sustainer device that relies on a gravity sensor to alert ships of an impending FTLi feild. When the feild is detected it iniates a rapid shut down of the subspace drive. At the same time it creates a static subspace bubble which while incabable of creating thrust holds the ship in subspace while it is carried forward by momentum.

OOC: But they'd be unable to transition, they'd just float through the field until they reached the other side, wouldn't they?

OOC: But they'd be unable to transition, they'd just float through the field until they reached the other side, wouldn't they?

That is preaty much what I was thinking. The subspace bubble would not be able to activate. So actually, they would float in on their momentum and be torn apart by traveling beyond the speed of light in Real space.

OOC: The tech works, I got the idea from a Star Wars book, one of the New Jedi Order ones.

OOC: The tech works, I got the idea from a Star Wars book, one of the New Jedi Order ones.

OOC: Just curious, never seen anything like it before.

OOC: The tech works, I got the idea from a Star Wars book, one of the New Jedi Order ones.
ooc> Well I don't really accept "I got the idea from a Star Wars book" as being a legitimate reason. Especially when I am not using ANY SW technology, so you have no idea if it would work or not. And Subspace is not a SW thing either. The SW book isn't going to cut it. Even more so when it is you basically jumping in with an uber-fleet to turn what would otherwise be a fun and interesting battle into a pointless frag-fest.

OOC: I at least explained how it works, you just said you used the warp fortresses anti FTLi, you didn't even try to explain how it works. And even though subspace isn't star wars the concept still works, and if thats not good enough I can always have my ships use a hyperdrive since they are outfitted with those to. It seems like the whole reason your not accepting it is cause you dont want to lose.

OOC: I at least explained how it works, you just said you used the warp fortresses anti FTLi, you didn't even try to explain how it works. And even though subspace isn't star wars the concept still works, and if thats not good enough I can always have my ships use a hyperdrive since they are outfitted with those to. It seems like the whole reason your not accepting it is cause you dont want to lose.

ooc> Ok, first of all, I don't care if I lose. I just don't want to get bsed out of actually having fun with the RP.

Second of all, though I didn't explain it all that well, me using the Warp Fortress's counter FTLi had a major drawback for me which equalled a major advantage for you: an even long delay on the MET weapon. However, sinse you actually asked, it works by broadcasting enough power to nullify the effects of tactical FTLi. There is always a counter action for FTLi, which causes it to not work, though it takes a great deal of power to actually capitalize on it, which is where the Warp Fortress comes in.

And last, even if you use hyperdrive, the FTLi in a SW book is not the same as mine. I explained mine to Corpsac and a few others a while back. It, in short, creates a strong real space barrier which stops portals from opening and has the double effect stablizing real space and preventing hyperdrives and related travel. Thus, your Sub-space bubble shielding wouldn't be opening anyways. The only reason your Lucifers SBS were able to remaing open was because they were already on when I powered up the FTLi field.

OOC: I'll edit my post later. It may not be edited much though if thats how you used the warp fortress my worrldship could easily make enough energy to nullify the FTLi

OOC: I'll edit my post later. It may not be edited much though if thats how you used the warp fortress my worrldship could easily make enough energy to nullify the FTLi

ooc> Well, it probobly couldn't. But, whatever, I'm tired of arguing about it. I will make some sort of post when I get back home.

ooc> Sorry for the delay, I have been exeedingly busy lately. I am going to wrap up this battle, and hopefully this thread soon after. CS isn't going to return so I see no reason to continue this RP.

ic> At the Warp Fortress, the staff detected a dimentional disturbance near the perimeter of the core of the sub-system. They were alarmed for a moment, but their worries were quickly proved to be unfounded. Whatever had attempted to come in had ended up exiting right in the massive Warp Storm that surrounded the Fortress. It was a rather foolish move by the Shivans as the only safe entry point was not only heavily gaurded, but also unkown and ever shifting in its location. There would likely be no survivors amoung the intruders, though the staff remained vigilant.

The primary battle between the Shivans and AoN forces at suddenly and drastically taken a turn for worse. The Shivan forces had somehow found a way around, more accurately through, the FTLi field. This was most likely due to the fact that the Warp Fortress's power supply was already be stretched to its limits, even with the Star Ring and the partial Dyson sphere harvesting the Star's energy and magnifying it with hyper-generators. The enemy arrived in major force. The rappid response forces of the Great Forge were no match for a Shivan invasion when it came down to total numbers. The battle was lost and any escape would most assuredly fail.

A single message was sent out to High Marshal James Harper. Broken Arrow. Sadly, he knew exactly what it meant; the enemy's victory was inevitable in the battle. The order meant to cleanse the area and wipe out as many enemies as possible, though at the expense of any friendly forces. For such a task, the Warp Fortress only had one more toy that it could use: the Apocolypse Warp Tear.

This terrible weapon was only to be used in dire circumstances, and permission from the Warp council was required in order to use it legally. Unfortunately, Harper had no other weapons at his disposal that could cause enough massive destruction to do the job, and he did not have enough time to so much as submit a request to council, even if they would grant permission anyways. It worked by forcing a deadly and very unstable tear between real space and the Warp. It was able to harness enough power to go right through tactical FTLi (though defencive FTLi were normally too potent for it) and cause a huge explosion of deadly energy followed by a black hole strength vaccum.

James walked towards the forboding red button on his controll board. He knew that what he was about to do could cause him to be court-marshaled. There were second thoughts, of course, but he could not allow Nikita and her fleet to die in vain. Trembling slightly, his finger pressed the button.


ooc> Not my greatest work, I know, but I am still really short on time.

ooc> Sorry for the delay, I have been exeedingly busy lately. I am going to wrap up this battle, and hopefully this thread soon after. CS isn't going to return so I see no reason to continue this RP.

ic> At the Warp Fortress, the staff detected a dimentional disturbance near the perimeter of the core of the sub-system. They were alarmed for a moment, but their worries were quickly proved to be unfounded. Whatever had attempted to come in had ended up exiting right in the massive Warp Storm that surrounded the Fortress. It was a rather foolish move by the Shivans as the only safe entry point was not only heavily gaurded, but also unkown and ever shifting in its location. There would likely be no survivors amoung the intruders, though the staff remained vigilant.

The primary battle between the Shivans and AoN forces at suddenly and drastically taken a turn for worse. The Shivan forces had somehow found a way around, more accurately through, the FTLi field. This was most likely due to the fact that the Warp Fortress's power supply was already be stretched to its limits, even with the Star Ring and the partial Dyson sphere harvesting the Star's energy and magnifying it with hyper-generators. The enemy arrived in major force. The rappid response forces of the Great Forge were no match for a Shivan invasion when it came down to total numbers. The battle was lost and any escape would most assuredly fail.

A single message was sent out to High Marshal James Harper. Broken Arrow. Sadly, he knew exactly what it meant; the enemy's victory was inevitable in the battle. The order meant to cleanse the area and wipe out as many enemies as possible, though at the expense of any friendly forces. For such a task, the Warp Fortress only had one more toy that it could use: the Apocolypse Warp Tear.

This terrible weapon was only to be used in dire circumstances, and permission from the Warp council was required in order to use it legally. Unfortunately, Harper had no other weapons at his disposal that could cause enough massive destruction to do the job, and he did not have enough time to so much as submit a request to council, even if they would grant permission anyways. It worked by forcing a deadly and very unstable tear between real space and the Warp. It was able to harness enough power to go right through tactical FTLi (though defencive FTLi were normally too potent for it) and cause a huge explosion of deadly energy followed by a black hole strength vaccum.

James walked towards the forboding red button on his controll board. He knew that what he was about to do could cause him to be court-marshaled. There were second thoughts, of course, but he could not allow Nikita and her fleet to die in vain. Trembling slightly, his finger pressed the button.


ooc> Not my greatest work, I know, but I am still really short on time.

OOC: Been watching we were soldiers recently?

Also, you could at least warn me before you blow me to hell and gone.

OOC: Been watching we were soldiers recently?

Also, you could at least warn me before you blow me to hell and gone.

ooc> No, but I know what you are talking about. However, it's still a standard military code term.

Sorry about the lack of warning. Dire circumstances, and besides, Harper wasn't really thinking about your forces. Lol.

ooc> No, but I know what you are talking about. However, it's still a standard military code term.

Sorry about the lack of warning. Dire circumstances, and besides, Harper wasn't really thinking about your forces. Lol.

OOC: Righto, I figured as much, but you just killed an entire planet, my two most deadly ground units, a full fleet, The Admiral, and, just for jollies, a very large ground army.

OOC: Righto, I figured as much, but you just killed an entire planet, my two most deadly ground units, a full fleet, The Admiral, and, just for jollies, a very large ground army.

ooc> My High Marshal will try to explain himself. It's up to you whether you want to accept his explanation or not.

*waits for Ekardia*

ooc> My High Marshal will try to explain himself. It's up to you whether you want to accept his explanation or not.

*waits for Ekardia*

OOC: Likely wqill dislike the explanation, but will accept it I bet.

The Shivan fleet at Anadat had been completely destroyed but at great cost to the enemy. Unfourantly nearly half of the Shivan fleet had been there. This war against humanity would be cut short, until the Shivans had rebuilt their fleet.

OOC: Sorry for the delay of my post I've been really busy.