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IC Thread:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9028357#post9028357

This is the sign up thread for a new RP I've been thinking about starting for some time now. It's about the Republic(my region) staging a war of expansion against nations in the universe. But, because my fellow Republicans and I are still rather small nations, I would appreaciate if only nations with around 1.billion population or under sign up, and preferable those who have no ties to the Galactic Empire or other large alliances. You can form your own alliances or stay independant in the RP, but know that probable 5 nations at least will be at war with you.

Nations involved:

Republic Forces:
Taledonia
ISF Devastator
Deatharon
Kazecistan
Nirs

Other Nations:
McKagan
ONI Concordiat
Var Kardal
CTPAX
Mini Meihm
Colonoria
Khiraebanaa
Kindura(IC observer)
Korgarein(IC observer)

At least 2

OOC: I want to join but remember my nation is still in a seperate Galaxy from The Republic.

Kazecistan, proud Centurion of The Republic reporting.

That's fine, Deatharon, as lots of Republic nations are seperated in space, why we never bothered making a region map.

OOC: My nation is kinda... well... We are FT, or PMT, but we only have the one ship. I and another nation are working on what will undoubtidly be the most advanced FTL drive system ever, though. That will be on my ship once we finish. So i'll be on Republic Forces list a little later.

Well, your not in the region at the moment so you can't be on the Republic's forces, but if we conquer you or you swear fealty to the Republic and join us, then you can be allied to us.

I'll join you once it starts, but i'll be neutral for a while, too.

I'm in! Go Republic!

Okay, that's fine. Whoever your friend is can join us also. We are always looking for more members.

I don't know if he's going to make a move into PMT and FT, though. I'll talk to him.

The Concordiat would like to join, but our "population" of machines is above the limit.

Regrettable. We were looking forward to a conflict with organics who might actually damage us.

I suppose you could join Concordiat. Your not that much bigger, and you haven't posted much on here so I'm assuming your not a super RPer like Chronosia or Unified Sith.

Bump

ONI is a second nation with BIG guns and good skills. However, together we can defeat him.

Altho his since his population is robotic, it makes me kind of mad. Crystal Angels would be completely useless against him.

Is this the Type of war were WMD's are going to be flying at each other?

Contraband (our only ship, remember) is 350m long.

I've classified it as a "Tactical Escort."

Also, it's survivable. A fleet could hammer it, and then have it crash into a planet. As long as it's engine gets turned off before it's hit (and the planet has an atmosphere if the hull is punctured) it can come on in.

It's got devices for water landings, too.

All together, it's a fairly advanced ship. It'll give anyone who messes with it a good pounding.

I may support the robot dude if no one else does, though.

Deatharon, use your superweapons as long as it doesn't effect possible colonizable planets. In space, go ahead as long as it doesn't effect Republic or allied ships.

Oh and for anybody who doesn't know me, mainly people outside of the Republic, here is good list of most of my military tech as to help you understand what I mean when the RP starts.


EDIT:Hmm, I just realised that it's in a lock section of the forum so nobody else can see it. Therefore I'll just post my tech when asked about it.

Well i've came to a conclusion about my nation.

It's a PMT nation. Meaning that we have a large stake of land on Earth, and a sytem on out in space somewhere.

I'd just ask that we leave it out of this for a while, Contraband hasn't been in a great fight for a while... and I hear people talking about super weapons?

We have decoy's we can launch, and no biohazard unit could ever get through our hull.

I'm putting my nation kind of like the US is in Stargate. We have a ship (they have prometheus, we have Contraband), but on their home planet weapons are basically modern, with a few exceptions.

So any invading army will have to put up with our attack submarines, ect...

So...are you going to RP on your own planet? Or as being on Earth?

Taledonia did you just post your own tech or all of ours?

Just my own. It's nothing classified so I thought what the heck, get everything out of the way to avoid lots of OOC posts in the actual thread when it starts.

ooc: While doubtful that I'd be welcome in the war, your link doesn't work, or rather it needs you to become a member of the board before accessing the information.

Theao, I really wouldn't want to RP with you, same goes for most Republic nations since what happend last time, but you could join as just a meddling space fleet trying to stop certain nations or such.

((OC- I'd probably watch and keep out unless it gets into certain nations. But even at least five nations might not be enough if a war is conducted in a certain way.

..and flooding my capital system with entire fleets won't work this time as I've decentralized my command control all over the Ascendancy Sphere.

But we won't start anything, but rather react. Deatharon is still technically my ally so that's another reason to not push anything. ))

Kazecistan's tech can all be found at my beautiful store Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8767163#post8767163)

What exactly happened "last time"?

Best to forgive and forget.

The Var's will join, not with the republic.

I shall watch this.

I am also curious as to why you are averse to GE members getting involved, primarily because I see room for possible alliance. I want to see RP skills first though.

CTPAX is with the republic...

I don't want any GE members because the GE has members with huge populations that could destroy my entire region easily. That's why.

Var Kardal and CTPAX, you are both welcome to join.

Though if a GE member who said they wouldn't bring in any GE allies and met all other restrictions would probably be welcome.

Though an alliance with the GE would be a really good idea....

This is the sign up thread for a new RP I've been thinking about starting for some time now. It's about the Republic(my region) staging a war of expansion against nations in the universe. But, because my fellow Republicans and I are still rather small nations, I would appreaciate if only nations with around 1.billion population or under sign up, and preferable those who have no ties to the Galactic Empire or other large alliances. You can form your own alliances or stay independant in the RP, but know that probable 5 nations at least will be at war with you.

Nations involved:

Republic Forces:
Taledonia
ISF Devastator
Deatharon
Kazecistan
Nirs

Other Nations:
McKagan
ONI Concordiat
Var Kardal
CTPAX


Mini Miehm is in.

I'm Game. I don't really tow the company line when it comes to the GE anyway

I'm game for a good invasion. And I promise not to call in any support from alliances such as the GCC and ESUS.

My apologies, but you cannot. The maximum population for a nation to participate is 1 billion. You have 4+ billion.

Not my rules. Besides the fact that you would most likely crush us...

eDIT: Chronisia

I'll RP as a smaller nation; say....only my Mechanicus

[ooc:] Oh my.

I don't suppose I could play, could I?

*grin*

Obviously you are not biased against Machine Sentience, but perhaps you aren't really ready to play with one with real power.

/end annoying egotripping.

*wink* Just kidding. I know I'm a bit big for you gentlemen, so I'll just sit and watch. I'm interested to see of ONI will participate, so I'll be watching from the sidelines. Oh, and any OOC assistance related to this that is asked for, I'll try to provide.

[ooc:] Oh my.

I don't suppose I could play, could I?

*grin*

Obviously you are not biased against Machine Sentience, but perhaps you aren't really ready to play with one with real power.

/end annoying egotripping.

*wink* Just kidding. I know I'm a bit big for you gentlemen, so I'll just sit and watch. I'm interested to see of ONI will participate, so I'll be watching from the sidelines. Oh, and any OOC assistance related to this that is asked for, I'll try to provide.

OOC: can you join me IC? :D

OOC: can you join me IC? :D

[ooc:]

Hun, I stopped playing wartime RP a goodly bit ago, because those that would be worth the challenge are all my friends.

Plus, there are so much better things to do than roleplay destroying each other.

[ooc:]

Hun, I stopped playing wartime RP a goodly bit ago, because those that would be worth the challenge are all my friends.

Plus, there are so much better things to do than roleplay destroying each other.

OOC: I resent that, I'll give you the numerical advantage, but that's been beaten way too often for that to be the only thing that matters, it's all in strategy and how well you RP it, I like to think I'm more of a challenge than my size indicates.

What is more fun than destroying each other, other than character RPs?

ooc:

I'm a military history major, studied Sun Tzu, Patton, Hitler, Napoleon, Scipio, Hannibal, and Scullus, I've got numerical advantage, I probably have technological advantage, and I can ubercardboardwank better than everyone here save Wazzu, Allanea, and Sketch.

Now, i'm not being a bitch, I'm simply saying that I've gotten tired of war. I study it every day at school, I come here to play something more. Diplomacy, trade, international relations, technological research, deepspace exploration, these are the things that snag my interest. War is ugly, but profitable. Plus, it's a testosterone thing, I'm thinking.

ooc:

I'm a military history major, studied Sun Tzu, Patton, Hitler, Napoleon, Scipio, Hannibal, and Scullus, I've got numerical advantage, I probably have technological advantage, and I can ubercardboardwank better than everyone here save Wazzu, Allanea, and Sketch.

Now, i'm not being a bitch, I'm simply saying that I've gotten tired of war. I study it every day at school, I come here to play something more. Diplomacy, trade, international relations, technological research, deepspace exploration, these are the things that snag my interest. War is ugly, but profitable. Plus, it's a testosterone thing, I'm thinking.

OOC: You have me by a few years, but, I've studied everyone on their but Scullus, and I've studied Gustavus, Alexander, Xerxes(all the persians actually), Forrest, Lee, Jackson, Sherman(butcher...), Shaka, Barbarossa, The various WW2 commanders, Pershing, the men involved in the Three kingdoms war in feudal china(I can't spell half of them), the point is I have a passion for history, and military history specifically(you've probably studied all the men I listed in more depth, but hey, maybe not, what do I know?).

Numbers, yes, tech, maybe, how much it matters, 0, Khusov said that "Quantity has a quality all its own", but it only applies in a very limited circumstance, so numbers only matter if your opponent is in the open and outnumbered about 100 to 1(in defensive positions you can't be flanked and the enemy can't come into contact with as much of your army at once), honestly I think you might be right about the testosterone thing, except for one minor thing, women have more testosterone than men(learned that from my chemistry teacher when we were studying the chemical composition of various things like cholesterol, testosterone, progesterone, estrogen, etc.) so really it can't be a testosterone thing, unless you count Boddicea(sp?).

Tech research, deepspace exploration, they're pretty interesting, diplomacy is just war without the bullets, trade is fun, if you can get people to compete for it, and international relations falls under diplomacy to me.

(this is the last off topic thing I'm posting here.)

Mini Meihm can join, the rest of you are way to big for me at the moment. Even with great tactics(tho my speciality is ancient tactics, like those of Rome), those big of numbers could never be stood up to by my allies and me.

let's say that a nation's ilitary is 10% of it's population. Chronisia would have nearly 400 million people.

That's a lot.

And also.... the military could be more. My nation's military is about 90% of it's population. If Chronisia had hat, then it would be nearly 3.6 billion people in the military. That's enough to wipe us ALL out.

let's say that a nation's ilitary is 10% of it's population. Chronisia would have nearly 400 million people.

That's a lot.

And also.... the military could be more. My nation's military is about 90% of it's population. If Chronisia had hat, then it would be nearly 3.6 billion people in the military. That's enough to wipe us ALL out.

Agreed. Even an army of sentient machines could not stand up to that kind of firepower, no matter how heavily armored and armed. The Concordiat would bow to Chronosia before the fighting even began. We are logical. We rarely fight hopless fights, if it can be helped.

OOC: so can we start the RP?

So these are the teams, right?
Taledonia
ISF Devastator
Deatharon
Kazecistan
Nirs
McKagan

vs.

ONI Concordiat
Var Kardal
CTPAX
Mini Meihm

I know how we could start this war! ONI has recently killed off every single one of his puppet nation's people. I was there protesting for a while, but left when threatened. The Republic would go after ONI for crimes, then others come to aid ONI, and we go from there.

OOC: According to what Taledonia has on the first page this is the teams:


Nations involved:

Republic Forces:
Taledonia
ISF Devastator
Deatharon
Kazecistan
Nirs

Other Nations:
McKagan
ONI Concordiat
Var Kardal
CTPAX
Mini Meihm

Those arn't the teams, their the nations involved. McKagan said he wanted to help us.

OOC: from what I read of the thread he is staying Neutral and may join us later if we conquer him or he just swear alliegance to us later.

Not taledonia's post of how he could join, but his post that he would most likely join. Plus, I've been in contact with him via TG for a while. Nowhere did he say he would oppose us, so he can't be on the other team as you say. But enugh of this, let others speak.

Well I'd like to join the Republic, but I can't spend time at any other forums or anything. If I can't join that way, I'll just help ya'll; or not post at all.

I'm working on a Treaty Organization, anyway.

I'd like to join as an observer, then see how things are going. We occupy an otherwise uninhabited region of space, and like to keep ourselves hidden.

I'm in with the republic.Where should I send my fleet?

If you are going to observe, why say so? Why not just read the thread. Or do you plan to post? How would you do that as an observer?

Post their ship movements and stuff, whereas they have some footing if they want to get involved.

There are plenty of Republic nations. It's up to Taledonia, Colonoria, if you can join. But please, no more nations wishing to join the Republic's side. Small battles are good. Although the other side could use a few....

Again,

I'm working on a Treaty Organization that may, eventually, pull me away from the republic anyway.

are we allowed to make up our armies for this as long as they are not ridiculous? if so, i'd like to be an independant nation.

k. I petition to join the other side. Can we have a huge ending battle?

Big booms are good. By by posts are bad.
Again,

I'm working on a Treaty Organization that may, eventually, pull me away from the republic anyway.
I know, I wasn't posting to you, I was posting to those who don't yet have sides.

Khiraebanaa, I don't have a problem with it, but others may.

anyone mind? speak thine mind or forever hold thy peace.

When I say I join as an observer, I mean as an IC observer. *hushhush*

I've already got how the thread is going to start planned out. Khibareabanaa and Colonoria, your both accepted to this RP. And Kindura, I'll put you down, but will add "observer" beside your name just incase you don't want to officially join in the war.

Now without further delay, I'll go make the thread. Please, try to keep OOC comments on the actual thread to a minimum. Try to use this page for that.

I'm getting my one ship army ready to go whoop some!

Here she is in all her majesty!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9028357#post9028357

I'd like to join, but I have no previous experience with future RPs. Can you help me out?

Well, it would be wise if you choose to RP solely as a FT nation from now on if you want to join. As if we conquer you, we will use your nation to do alot.

could you help me get started?

Sure, glad to help bring another nation into the future tech scene.

First things first, you need to create a tech for yourself. Think of a culture for your people and some futury military tech, like battle cruisers and such. Or if you can't think of anything original, copy movies, books or other things like Star Wars, Star Trek, Star Gate. Once you have that down, start thinking of your official stance in the galaxy. How many planets and star systems do you control? Consider joining an alliance of FT nations for help also, and most importantly, pick a position on events happening in the universe and take up your own view of foreigners. This should get you started. Then for the rest, just read all the things many of the senior RPers of Nationstates have posted about RPing, and then just follow those but change battleships and modern technology into future tech things like space ships.

While the nation of Korgarein is a little larger then your population cap, we would like to be added to your RP as an "IC observer". We are currently involved in diplomatic relations with the nation of Nirs, this is supposeably on behalf or with consent of The Republic. The events and or outcome of this RP could reflect upon the negotiations. The Korgarein Federal Empire will be monitoring these events but would like to be able post a small post at least stating that we are watching for diplomatic reasons. If not its ok, we will just watch from a distance and the post will be made under my diplomatic thread.

What I do is have a kinda Post Modern Tech thing.

I along with 2 other nations settled 3 star systems and are working on building a fleet of ships (i've got 1, working on an original production of 30.)

But we still have normal armies. In fact, that ship is the only FT thing i've got. On Earth we still fight with normal weapons.

Korgarein, Nirs has made an agreement with you I presume? Therefore we are allies and you may watch this as an "IC observer"

The agreement has yet to be made. We are in the middle of the negotiations, hense the reason the events in this RP are important. A war concerning one of the deligate's nations during diplomatic negotiations can have both adverse and/or favorable effects on negotiations of alliances.

Right, I posted in the thread, but you will be forced to attack me, our nation won't start a war, we are mearly ready if it comes for us

Could you please post some information about your home system? Like how many planets, suns, etc... Plus if you would be so kind, tell me about them, like is it covered in ocean, is it deserts, forests, things like that. It would help me RP the war.

*Cringes* Ok, no, the things that where striped where NOT in this galaxy, but in the other, we don't Have a home system. Basicly you are attacking the colony in the milky way, because you need to get this system to even ATTEMPT an attack on our home galaxy. Basicly, you would be forced to attack the systems the Varish are massing at. The following locations are good.

New Var: This planet is the one controling the White gate, thus will be extreamly heavily defended. The planet is mainly mountines, with a few bits of water around.

New Kar: This one is a different system entirely, it is a world similar to earth but twice the size.

New Dal: This Planet is in the same system as New Kar, very deserty, its like dune but with one massive ocean.

Also, what is everyone's FTL speed?

Mine is 50x (IE crap), but I intend to improve it as quickly as possible.

Also, what is everyone's FTL speed?

Mine is 50x (IE crap), but I intend to improve it as quickly as possible.

Mine is instantaneous, copied from the Ender's Game series, but that means that my smaller ships cannot travel outside the jump-capable ships.

*Cringes* Ok, no, the things that where striped where NOT in this galaxy, but in the other, we don't Have a home system. Basicly you are attacking the colony in the milky way, because you need to get this system to even ATTEMPT an attack on our home galaxy. Basicly, you would be forced to attack the systems the Varish are massing at. The following locations are good.

New Var: This planet is the one controling the White gate, thus will be extreamly heavily defended. The planet is mainly mountines, with a few bits of water around.

New Kar: This one is a different system entirely, it is a world similar to earth but twice the size.

New Dal: This Planet is in the same system as New Kar, very deserty, its like dune but with one massive ocean.

Ok, sorry for the confusion, I'll edit them to say the New Var system.

Mine is slipspace meaning i can get places in a matter of seconds.
There are 127million ppl in my navy.
My Capitol is on Earth in Fllet staging grounds.
The other planets are:
Inca Prime:Has Space Dock(SD) Marine training grounds here. Southern hemishere water; norhtern is land.
Aztec Major: Lots of feilds,lakes,farms, & air force bases & Missle testing sites.
Roma Minor:Much vocanic activity in ocean where no islands are,only land is mountanis islands.Major shipyard.
The Catan System:7 planets. Has the largest & most numerous of Colonoria's shipyards.

Also, what is everyone's FTL speed?

Mine is 50x (IE crap), but I intend to improve it as quickly as possible.

Never make a limit to your max speed, limit your acceleration, that way you can go as fast as necessary, eventually, like my ships, they have a maximum sublight accel of about 600 gravities for the carriers, the cruisers have half again that much due to their smaller size, in FTL they accelerate at a percentage of the speed of light, they don't hit a top speed since they're not using a reaction engine and they aren't encountering any friction.

There are 127million ppl in my navy.
You only have 202 million people total. Who feeds them? Who builds/ repairs their ships? Who mines the resources needed? What about the other branches of the military? Who is left to live in your cities? Your nations military should not be much over 5% of your population if you want to be accepted.

MM: Are your cruisers miniature? Or are your carriers bigger than planets?

My cruisers are big Super Dreadnought things, while my carriers have the same hull, but are meant for carrying small ships, like fighters, not cruisers.

MM: Are your cruisers miniature? Or are your carriers bigger than planets?

My cruisers are big Super Dreadnought things, while my carriers have the same hull, but are meant for carrying small ships, like fighters, not cruisers.

The cruisers are sub-light parasites, approximately the size of a modern battleship, the carriers are approximately 90 megatons in size, they are massive and each hold about 30 cruisers.

The cruisers are sub-light parasites, approximately the size of a modern battleship, the carriers are approximately 90 megatons in size, they are massive and each hold about 30 cruisers.

I quit.

And you have 260ish million people? A little much..... Even your cruisers alone (assuming that they have similar crews to that of modern ones) is too many for your population.

And you have 260ish million people? A little much..... Even your cruisers alone (assuming that they have similar crews to that of modern ones) is too many for your population.

They have crews of approximately three hundred each, there's alot of automation to them.

I hate to be, in some ironic way, rewarding the godmoders, but maybe you could just not invade them?

Plus your behemoth carriers, your fighters, and the many ships that are undoubtably in other systems..... That's a lot of people.

Prehaps if I had a listing of the weapons on the ships, I could decide if it was worth it.

And your math is wrong, you sent 50 carriers, not 75.

Khiraebanaa just quit (wrong thread tho). I think we should start over and take things a little slower. EG:

1. military buildup, economic warfare, heavy espionage
2. some kind of international incident to set off the powder keg
3. minor skirmishes along the frontiers as the nations move to commit their forces
4. major campaigning, with various strategies interacting mechanistically
5. see where it goes

Even if you ARE able to reach the enemy homeworld in minutes, maybe they could be using some kind of warp interdiction technology? The kind that can only be taken down by thoughtful strategy?

You guys could say that every major homeworld has a laser defense grid that would blast fleets apart.

Plus, destroying a homeworld is the wrong way to go about it. You want to blow everything up BUT the government. That way there is someone left to surrender.

McKagan: Warp interdiction cancels out FTL technology. Although some other kind of stationary defenses might also produce the same effect. It could even work out to a matter of extended supply lines. Maybe you can tell I'm looking for a WWI style of combat, although probably not going into outright trench warfare.

Well if ya'll started it over (don't do it just for me, btw) I would join (even though I said I was going to this time.)

I would love to have a WW1 thing, something that would take a LONG time to end.

I'd also like to see ground warfare, or fighting on bases and such.

That could work. Plus for every individual major campaign against nations, there could be a new thread so it's not all cramed into one. Would everyone be alright with that?

So am I gonna be allowed to help the republic or be neutral or what?

I think it would be best if we agreed on the strategic conditions of the Theater of War. IE, the locations of our homeworlds and the extent of our territory/spheres of influence, the locations of our fleets at the start of the conflict, etc.

Someone want to draw up a map? (not me)

Plus your behemoth carriers, your fighters, and the many ships that are undoubtably in other systems..... That's a lot of people.

Prehaps if I had a listing of the weapons on the ships, I could decide if it was worth it.

And your math is wrong, you sent 50 carriers, not 75.

You're right, I forgot, sorry.

I have six fleets, Home fleet is the largest, the next largest is only half that many squadrons with only 4 per squadron, so only 28 carriers, quite a bit less than my home fleet, the smallest has 2 squadrons, only 8 carriers, I know how to balance my forces, but I also know that if I leave my home undefended I'll be crushed.

The carriers are massive, and suitably armed, with 100 broadside tubes, the cruisers are much smaller, with only 6 boadside tubes on each side and pretty small ammo capacity, they can shoot all their birds off in about ten minutes at max fire rate, then they're limited to their grasers, which have much less range, and there're only ten grasers per cruiser, versus the two hundred or so per carrier, also, my ships are heavily armored but have absolutely no energy shields at all, they're built big for more than one reason.

Each carrier has 90 fighters, they're one man ships, so that's only 4500 people, not all that many in the long run.

I've made every possible strength have an accompanying weakness, at least equal to the strength, like my numerous cruiser, they have no FTL drives, conversely they're smaller and faster than the huge FTL carriers, but with their speed comes less armor, the carriers are big, slow, heavily armed, and well armored, but they have very little ability to operate without their cruisers, since they can't chase down escaping enemy cruisers, or most other ships at all.

Khiraebanaa just quit (wrong thread tho). I think we should start over and take things a little slower. EG:

1. military buildup, economic warfare, heavy espionage
2. some kind of international incident to set off the powder keg
3. minor skirmishes along the frontiers as the nations move to commit their forces
4. major campaigning, with various strategies interacting mechanistically
5. see where it goes

Even if you ARE able to reach the enemy homeworld in minutes, maybe they could be using some kind of warp interdiction technology? The kind that can only be taken down by thoughtful strategy?

Works for me.

Ok, but can you PLEASE reduce the size of your fleet to some not-ridiculous figure?

((OOC: Just a little input here, but as you can tell by many nations mentioning it. Nations of most of your sizes should only have a few hundred ships depending on the size of the ships considering that most FT ships are sever billion USD per ship, and often dreadnoughts are in upper billions low trillions in cost. I think i would work on the fleet sizes befor restarting as well. But thats just me.))

OOC:So let me get this striaght we are restarting this from the begining?

I think a restart with better planning would be great. The Republic is however, more that likely going to need time, as an extremely treasonous act was committed which requires many fleets to over come. I apologize for the wait that may take place. We do however wish to continue this, eventually. (a week or 2 at the most)

i'll be part of the restart, but in the meantime i need to make my fleets "leaner and fitter" due to the fact that i'm a new FT RPer.

Ok, but can you PLEASE reduce the size of your fleet to some not-ridiculous figure?

Who? Me? My fleet is small compared to some of the others on here, and my FTL fleet is probably the smallest and weakest on here.

Yo. My nation joins, But i have allies!

Is your FTL faster than 50c? If it is, then you don't have the crappiest FTL here.

If you count me as "involved", I have the smallest fleet (almost 10 ships).

could anyone help me transition into Future tech?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424807

can you link us to the thread in which this terrible betrayal occurs?

ok i was looking definetly cant 4.18 bil tech level of insanely high use of big guns very big guns all over the place and in atmosphere lol and my fleet numbers [my people live in the asteroid field] are high and really good lol nation of 4 bil with armed forces of like 1.2 mil lol if allowed i will join in as a seperate faction for the fun of it and something to do but if not its cool lol :)

Vilence: NO!

And the Treason is here (http://s10.invisionfree.com/Republic_Forum/index.php?showtopic=277&view=getnewpost) Though shortly the thread will be deleted. When it is, there will be a civil war thread in it's place.

If you guys want to join in the fun of utterly humiliating a n00b(ISF) then please, sign up to our forums so you can RP in the fun.

n00b?

Well yes, he did give himself 30,000 ships..

However, in the post immediately before this, Deatharon was able to bring back his entire fleet from a distant deployment outside republic space: a move which other nations soon followed. ISF's entire strategy hinged on your fleets being days or weeks away from home. In effect, you simply "removed" a critical weakness because you didn't want to suffer it's effects.

OOC: Not until I know which galaxy I'm in.

Distances were never set and our drives could be any speed we want. We have other fleets that held him off untill our deployed ones got back. There are many explinations for the movements of our fleets and none for his n00bish numbers (that are acceptable.)

Why doesn't everyone just fight in open space that has no strategic value to anyone after the particular RP?

Why fight if there is no value?

In fighting, no value there is. Why indeed? MmHmhmhmhm...

The thing about instantaneous travel is that it's convenient. A little TOO convenient. It doesn't seem any less far-fetched than saying you have a massive industrial base that can produce and maintain 30,000 massive spaceships.

In the future, it's not inconceivable to have instantaneous warp travel. It's also not inconceivable to have automated, mobile factories that transform asteroids into Techno-matter. The limitations on industry seem to be more, not less arbitrary than those on FTL. Hell, with merely modern tech, our planet could be producing many times the goods that it in fact does. Granted, you could assume that the vagaries of voodoo economics and artificial scarcity will continue long into the future, but this is again unnecessary, as it depends heavily on the sort of society you're trying to form.