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Orkin 10.5mm sniper rifle released

Roach-Busters
06-06-2005, 17:41
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Caliber 10.5 x 114 mm Russian
Operation Manually operated, rotating bolt
Length 1450 mm
Weight 29 kg
Feed Mechanism 10 round detachable box
Max Rate of Fire 35 RPM
Aimed Rate of Fire 4-6 RPM
Maximum Effective Range 3000+ meters
Price $2,500


The Orkin 10.5mm sniper rifle is a manually operated, rotating bolt action rifle. The barrel is locked by the rotating bolt that has 6 lugs. The barrel along with the receiver could recoil inside the chassis frame against combined hydraulic and pneumatic damping system. Large two-chamber muzzle brake also helps to keep recoil at the acceptable level. The rifle is fed from a detachable box magazine that holds up to 10 rounds and is inserted from the right side. The rifle can be disassembled and carried two portable packs, each weighing about 15 kg. One pack carries the frame, stock, butt, and bipod while the other carries the barrel and sighting equipment. This rifle is equipped with a 8X magnification, long eye relief telescopic sight on the quick detachable mount.


NOTE: This is my first time making a rifle, so please bear with me. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Relative Liberty
06-06-2005, 18:03
OOC: Why 10.5 and not a more common caliber?
DAKKADAKKA42
06-06-2005, 19:09
Just a few things:
1. I assume that your 10.5x114mm russian is a necked down version of the 14.5x114mm russian. If this is so, why? the magazines for such a calliber will be just as bulky as the 14.5x114mm and the round will be less destructive. Why not simply offer the weapon in this calliber and produce 'match' grade ammunition?

2. Although your weapon is shorter, it is considerably hevier than the South African NTW-20 although i assume that this is due to the semi-automatic system.

3. How do you intend to provide accurate fire at 3000m+ with a shorter barrel and smaller calliber ammunition than the NTW-20 which is only effective to 2300m+ although that is with machine gun grade ammunition not match grade.

4. In your description you say the weapon is a manually operated, rotating bolt rifle and not a semi auto as it says in your statistics section. which is it?

Other than that, pretty good. Although it is blatantly obvios that you have lifted the description straight off the NWT-20 on http://World.guns.ru. esspecaially as you forgot to change it to semi auto from bolt action.
also do you intend for this rifle to be anti-personell or anti-material?
Roach-Busters
06-06-2005, 19:56
OOC: Why 10.5 and not a more common caliber?

(OOC: I dunno.)
Roach-Busters
06-06-2005, 20:00
also do you intend for this rifle to be anti-personell or anti-material?

Not sure. Which would you recommend?
Clan Smoke Jaguar
06-06-2005, 20:17
OOC:

1) Firing rates are only truly relevant in full-auto weapons. For semi-auto and bolt action, it can vary greatly based on the user. Just stating the mechanism is sufficient in such cases.

2) An effective range of 3000 meters may be attainable (theoretically), but please make note that this is against large targets. At that range, you stand a good chance of missing my car, even if it is exceptionally accurate.

3) This weapon is rather underpriced. $2500 is what you would expect for a cost-effective military-grade sniper rifle in 5.56 or 7.62mm (or similar) caliber. Heavy, military-grade, anti-material rifles like this start at around $6000, and I would put this at most likely above $10,000.
Snake Eaters
06-06-2005, 20:23
Not sure. Which would you recommend?

Sorry to butt in RB. But, at that range and with that calibre, anti-personal would be a waste of time. A human head at 500 metres is a nigh-impossible target with a 4x scope. You'd be best off going closer, and working as anti-material with a weapon like this
Sarzonia
06-06-2005, 20:33
I echo both CSJ and Snake Eaters on their suggestions about the use for this weapon. What you should do with any design you try to implement is think about what you want to have it accomplish. Do you want a standard assault rifle for your army? Do you want a frigate that specialises in anti submarine warfare? Do you want an agile intercontinental bomber? Look up similar RL designs to what you're looking for, take the best out of those features, and implement them in your own design.

The problem you will have with a calibre that's so vastly different from anything else out there is a logistical one. Namely, your weapon is not going to be compatible with those of your allies, so if you're on a theoretical battlefield, their ammunition isn't going to fit your weapon, and vice versa. There is also the matter of training your soldiers and those of your allies in using this and other weapons, getting your engineers and repair personnel trained to maintain various types of weapons, etc. The more you follow standards such as a 7.62 mm or 5.56 mm assault rifle, the easier it becomes to train soldiers to use them, repair personnel to fix them, and companies to manufacture them.

Doomingsland is very good with designing weapons like the one you're putting out there. You may want to ask him for tips.
DAKKADAKKA42
07-06-2005, 17:07
I only asked about weather it was to be anti-personell or anti-materail because it seemed to me that this rifle was is a medium caliber. If it was to be anti-material i would have expected it to be a .50 or 14.5x114 or larger and if it was to be an anti-personell weapon I would have expected either a .338 lupa round or 7.62.