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The Republic of the Kingdom of Heaven

This nation was set up in 1776 by Protestant Christian refuges fleeing persecution in Catholic Europe. In 1818 the population had reached 2 million and a democratic government complete with a citizens charter was established.

Due to the nations high percentage of Christians, it was determined that the government and constitution would be Christian in nature.

The Citizens Charter of 1818 ensured:

The right of all males over the age of 25 to vote.
The right of freedom from violence.
The right to free health care.
The right to freedom of Christian worship and belief.
The right to freedom from hunger.
The right to political belief and organisation. (although Marxism was banned until 1905)

The nation was very conservative and quite intolerant in the 19th century. The leading Covenant Conservative Party was under attack by liberals and socialists for its political and religious discrimination. This saw a mass uprising against the government in 1915 and 1916 a new government and Peoples Charter was established and the Liberal Party took power. Liberals and Socialists in power argued that because both men and women are created in Gods image that both must be given the vote. They also argued that the banning of non-Christian religion and atheism was an infringement of God given free-will, as was the criminalisation of homosexuality.
They also argued that the gospel of Christ was a socialist gospel and that Moses was the father of Socialism.

There the Peoples Charter of 1916 declared:

The voting age lowered to 18 and extended to include women.
A charter to protect the rights of women, including right to own property and equality in the workplace.
Religious rights established for all faiths and beliefs. (including atheism)
Full freedom on speech and political organisation.
The legalisation of homosexuality between consenting adults.
Gay Civil Unions are to be declared legal and gays are to be protected legally in employment.
To right for Catholics, homosexuals and non-Christians to become President.
The establishment of CapitalistWatch, an organisation to limit and control capitalism.
The right of citizens to refuse to pay taxes for the Department of Religion and Spirituality. It is now voluntary to pay for this Department (although most people choose to do so)
The removal of religious symbols from courthouses, secular schools and hospitals: as this was said to be a violation of free-will.

Power has been shifting between the Liberal Party and the Democratic Socialist Party ever since. The newly formed Christian Conservative Party have been in third place for almost a 100 years.

In 2005, after ascension to the UN, citizens concerned about their Christian brother and sisters abroad and their legal rights. Liberal MP Anne Williams (daughter of Eva Williams who won the right for women to vote) declared that the human rights hard fought for in 1915, must be extended throughout the world, and that people of all faiths should have UN protection. “We are not after imposing Christianity onto the world, but we want to ensure that the rights of all faiths and beliefs”.
Minister for Commerce and Muslim Imam Hamid Acaman agreed as he had experienced persecution abroad before he fled to Kingdom of Heaven as a refugee. “The largely pantheistic nation I was born in arrested me when I said I believed that Hinduism is wrong and that only Allah is the true God. They threw me in jail because I declared that Islam was more true than Hinduism. I didn’t want to ban Hinduism, I just wanted to say I didn’t agree with it!” “But the Kingdom of Heaven welcomed me with open arms and told me that my argument of Islam as the one true religion would encourage interesting debate between Christians and Muslims”.

So please note before you presume that we are right-wing fundamentalists, we are actually Liberal Democratic Socialists!!

Too much focus on religion for my liking. :p

Socialism rejects religion. Thus you are no real socialists.

In any case, this is completely irrelevant to the UN and its business.

Socialism rejects religion. Thus you are no real socialists.

In any case, this is completely irrelevant to the UN and its business.

Socialism doesn't 'reject' religion. Marxism and true socialists are usually materialists, which means they are atheists. But they would not shut down churches and the like!

Socialism doesn't 'reject' religion. Marxism and true socialists are usually materialists, which means they are atheists. But they would not shut down churches and the like!

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Socialism rejects religion. Thus you are no real socialists.



Not true. Marxism/communism might reject religion, but socialism as in a belief that the state should provide welfare and protect the interests of the working class is far older than Marxism. In fact socialism is argued for all the way through the Bible. Right-wing economic beliefs are no where to be found, but there are many verses argueing for a better treatment of the poor.

The founder of the British Labour Party (a socialist organisation) was a devout Christian.

Religion is neither right-wing nor left-wing, it depends on interpretation. Some right-wingers reject religions concern for human rights.

Yeah, right.

After the Russian revolution, the Bolsheviks did not shut down churches. They had mass support from Islamist groups in the east of Russia.

They produced propaganda to convince the religious workers that god is a myth, but they did not abolish religion.

Marx said religion is the "sigh of an oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world."

We believe that a socialism focused on God will be far more effective for our nation. For example being greedy is widely veiwed by people in our country as a sin. This veiw is not forced by government, but is widely held.

Many of our citizens believe that rich greedy capitalists go to hell when they die, therefore many people who get rich give it to the poor and to charity to avoid the wrath of God.

Many of our citizens think that the fear of hellfire is a very good incentive for the wealthy to give all their money to the poor and not to oppress the worker.

So you see that Christian socialism can be very effective, especially when the Bible says that for each dollar you give away you will receive 1000 that amount in Heaven.

Cardinal John Jones of the nations Catholic church declares that greed is a mortal sin and therefore all those with a bank balance of over $700,000 at death are destined for damnation and those of a bank balance of over $300,000 will be in a poor place in pugotory.

In atheistic socialism capitalists only have the wrath of the worker to face.

So you see that Christian socialism can be very effective, especially when the Bible says that for each dollar you give away you will receive 1000 that amount in Heaven.

Cardinal John Jones of the nations Catholic church declares that greed is a mortal sin and therefore all those with a bank balance of over $700,000 at death are destined for damnation and those of a bank balance of over $300,000 will be in a poor place in pugotory.

Dollars didn't exsist in Biblical times.

Well then, you know nothing of Catholicism. This 'John Jones' can't declare somthing a mortal sin dogmatically-only an ecumenical council or a pope speaking ex cathedra can. Besides, being wealthy is not sinful, unless it distracts you from God. The same with anything else.

And anyways, the first Christian communities were Anarcho-Communist,
not socialist.

We are still waiting for what relevance this has to the UN.

We are still waiting for what relevance this has to the UN.

lol... I'll get the mods...

We are still waiting for what relevance this has to the UN.I'm trying to prove to UN nations that I am not a right wing religious fanatic. This way they can understand that my motives for my proposals are not about religious domination.

I'm trying to prove to UN nations that I am not a right wing religious fanatic. This way they can understand that my motives for my proposals are not about religious domination.

And making up an RP history proves that... how?

The way to do that is in what resolutions you support, not what your nation has done. Hell, my nation has a long-standing history of raping entire worlds just to benefit ourselves, and yet I'm still probably known for supporting resolutions that protect nature.

And making up an RP history proves that... how? how else can i prove it, other than point people to my profile. by the way someone suggested that i do this.

how else can i prove it, other than point people to my profile. by the way someone suggested that i do this. and I would be breaking the role play if my NS history was not true.

and I would be breaking the role play if my NS history was not true.

Its not. See my post concerning your ignorance of the Catholic Church.

The way to do that is in what resolutions you support, not what your nation has done. Hell, my nation has a long-standing history of raping entire worlds just to benefit ourselves, and yet I'm still probably known for supporting resolutions that protect nature.

Yeah I have to say I've always admired your style in that respect. I suppose it just leaves more of nature for you to rape and plunder really :p

Well then, you know nothing of Catholicism. This 'John Jones' can't declare somthing a mortal sin dogmatically-only an ecumenical council or a pope speaking ex cathedra can.
Not true. I do know that only the Pope/ecumenical council can do this. I know that in rl it is not seen as a mortal sin. But in the Vatican of NS the new Pope Frederick the 9th recently declared it a mortal sin.

Besides this comment was meant as humour.