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The Conception is an apocalyptic event caused by an old ritual. It results in the destruction of the current form of Krioval, and allows whoever demonstrates the greatest strength in the post-Conception Krioval to reshape it to their image. It also results in all Kriovalians (at least half-blood by birth) to be dragged inexorably home for the Judgment of the Gods. Foreigners trapped in Krioval during the Conception (and afterward) are allowed to enter into the struggle, and therefore be eligible to affect the outcome, or are otherwise ignored.

The Conception uses the souls of the damned to power the next phase in the ritual, called the Creation. The Creation brings Krioval back into the normal world in its new form.

The Conception - IC thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423761)

The Conception storyline follows the Festival of Fighters (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413363) (FoF OOC thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412940))

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Now for the administrative details. Anybody in the Festival of Fighters RP is automatically granted a spot/spots in this RP provided that silliness like "I automatically prevent the whole thing" doesn't happen. Not that I feel anyone would try that, but it bears mentioning. Anybody else should feel welcome to post on this (OOC) thread to request invitation into the RP. I am not interested in people attempting to declare war on me during the ritual itself (not that it would work - but I want to avoid those kinds of problems). This leaves two options:

First, drop a character into Krioval for the "fun".
Second, react as one would outside the event, wait for the Creation to occur, and then we can discuss international repercussions. The Conception isn't the sort of thing that can be invaded and conquered. It runs to completion once started.

Have fun!

Some additional information:

The Conception is technically only the ritual itself, which has been in preparation for some time, but takes a very short time to complete. Once it is over, it forms the Kata Kara (also called the Conception Disc) and the world surrounding it, which is effectively a combination power generator/proving grounds/temporary holding zone.

Those deemed unworthy by the Gods will be killed during the Conception or shortly thereafter and their souls will go to Kata Kara. Those deemed righteous or virtuous will be granted divine protection from harm - to a degree. Stupid behavior is still very much discouraged. These will be identifiable by strange tattoos covering the entire body (verify or not at your discretion). Raijin will have the most striking set. As very few Christians will be protected by the Kriovalian Gods, the theological comparison between the Book of Revelation and what they see becomes apparent, and the markings will be akin to the "mark of the Beast". As when a neutral (unmarked) person attacks a protected (marked) person, the neutral will be first repelled, then knocked down, and finally "brought to Kata Kara", the few Christians who are marked will become some of the most reviled people in post-Conception Krioval.

Another issue is that when the Disc grows brighter (it cycles), people's emotions and thoughts are pushed to the surface, and some may be able to read these as if telepathic. It tends to go both ways. Also, aggression tends to rise as Kata Kara brightens. The "phases" of the Disc will be the only reliable measure of time, and one entire cycle (dark to full to dark) takes about twelve hours, though it may vary with the fluctuations in the intake of souls.

As said in the previous post, foreign visitors are given the option to be granted protection based on their nationality rather than their virtue, though this protection also annuls any effects of that person's will on the post-Conception world or the Creation. The markings will differentiate between the two classes of "protecteds". Forgoing this protection will effectively "Kriovalize" that person - the Judgment will occur on their soul as normal, and then they will be eligible to alter the future Krioval in the Creation.

Finally, the effects of psionics, magic, and all other "ethereal" abilities will be greatly reduced in the post-Conception Krioval, and all but the strongest will be stilled when Kata Kara is at its brightest.

I'd really hate to ask what makes one liked by the Gods...

Alright, mesa in.

It takes a reasonable level of intentional malice to be consumed directly, so most are going to be "neutrals". That means "no negative judgment". During the course of events, some people may be elevated to "protected" by merit. Neutrality is nowhere near a death sentence.

While I refuse to sound even remotely akin to a certain Jar Jar Binks, count the Lady of Cats Keep in as well. It seems to be a habit of hers. Being present at the creation and definition of realities, that is.

Let's just say that the Gods even shudder slightly at the mention of the Conception. We're definitely not talking Cantrips 101 here! :cool:

EDIT: This particular ritual explains in part why Solokaro, who was originally considered a "lesser" God, was declared an equal. The other part was his ability to recruit a mortal army to face off enemy forces at the Battle of Valarok.

One thing will be most interesting, as you speak of aggression being elevated - Shalamar is the last Deadly Sin (specifically anger/wrath), the last currently 'mantled' - a living avatar of the integral/essential concept of Wrath. She is capable of governing, and using, the emotion (the energy -in-motion) in any way she choses.

One thing will be most interesting, as you speak of aggression being elevated - Shalamar is the last Deadly Sin (specifically anger/wrath), the last currently 'mantled' - a living avatar of the integral/essential concept of Wrath. She is capable of governing, and using, the emotion (the energy -in-motion) in any way she choses.

Oh lovely.

Me? I've already posted in the thread. As curious as any cat, I can't wait to see where Krioval takes this.

Now here's a question or two - Did Krioval have this in mind all along? Did events in game play cause him to speed up his time table, or throw this in as something last minute? Who among us is going to survive, and be changed, or survive and be simply unaffected, or die?

She is capable of governing, and using, the emotion (the energy -in-motion) in any way she choses.

So long as it doesn't interfere too much with the story. :p

In seriousness, though, the point of the "aggression enhancement" of Kata Kara is to winnow the neutrals - those who have no control over their emotional state or who harbor useless grudges will manage to self-destruct (in a manner of speaking). The various Orders, for example, are likely prone to these influences more than the average Johan. Please try to discuss before using a meta-power on a global scale and I'll do the same.

EDIT: FoF went through several modifications. Originally, I just wanted an excuse for a massive orgy (let's face it - I'm male and in my early 20s). Then I decided to add the tournament on request (it was not part of the original RP idea). I added the bit about the deaths of the Bishop and Andruik because I had used their characters well in the past, but they might catalyze something interesting by going away. This meant I needed a new High Priest. I picked Koro because I was in a strange mood; I had him and Raijin get together in an even stranger mood.

This led to the idea of having an assassination attempt on Koro, which I abandoned due to improbability. Then I was going to have Kiv challenge Raijin to a duel after the tournament, have Raijin win, and pave the way for the two to become less hostile toward one another. Finally, I started playing "Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne", from where the idea of the Conception originates (though Krioval's will be far less destructive). Since I was looking for a way to reshuffle some aspects of Krioval's society, and I was worried that I was writing myself into a corner (toward a cybernetic society that abandons its faith and nature), I used this particular devise as a "reset button". It has the added advantages of being obnoxious to governments that are ICly annoying to me, and it lets me use my Gods and more esoteric means of continuing to expand.

Then there's the issue with TPP - icing on the cake, potentially. :D

... Poor Akina. She has already been in one apocalypse, mere weeks ago, and now a second *_*

... Must be frustrating.

... Incidentally, this almost makes me wish I had $Überauged_Monstrosity present <.< Mildly more suited for this. But then, Akina hiding under tables ought to be more amusing.

I am definitely unsure what this is going to do to my rational Nietzschean. As a race/culture it's "I heard God died a long time ago" and "We were designed to be the gods that walked among man"

And Peri's soul is far from clean- as an assassin she can say she was just doing her job, but she does have at least one instance of out and out genocide ( Using a weapon that makes a system's sun go nova is rather the high on the 'ultimate genocide' list.)

The Grendel is just going to shrug and keep on keeping on.

So long as it doesn't interfere too much with the story. <snip> Please try to discuss before using a meta-power on a global scale and I'll do the same.


I won't let it, hate to ruin a lovely story, and this one is looking to be particularly fascinateing. And, yes of course I will.

My take on the physical marking idea: be creative. It's meant to differentiate one class from another obviously enough that the intelligent will hesitate to strike at one so marked. Raijin's will likely be permanent due to the rigors of the Conception, but they may also be "triggered" under certain circumstances and invisible otherwise. I haven't decided.

As bizarre as this sounds, it's also a good time to establish the "character" of various Kriovalian cities. After the Creation, they'll likely echo the things that took place in them during the Conception and post-Conception world. It's somewhat probable that the design most favored will be replicated throughout Krioval where practical. As with just about anything I do, there's bound to be some meta-RP stuff involved, and I figure that putting it into an IC format is so much better than the "What should my government become?" polls.

CATS KEEP:

Shalamar, as she is what you've spelled her out as, will be very well aware that Therassi is neither angry nor wrathful through the entire episode.

Oh, I am cetain of that, the beating- the lesson, if you will - was done too deliberately to have been anything other than without wrath. (I've spent too much time in a dojo to see it as other from the way you described it.)

But it went far beyond what was necessary, in her estimation, and to her that speaks very badly of Therassi.

Oh, I am cetain of that, the beating- the lesson, if you will - was done too deliberately to have been anything other than without wrath. (I've spent too much time in a dojo to see it as other from the way you described it.)

But it went far beyond what was necessary, in her estimation, and to her that speaks very badly of Therassi.

Ah, culture. Too bad it doesn't translate as well as english.

For the record, it's not that Raijin fully disapproves of Therassi's actions. While he doesn't necessarily agree with the form of the punishment, he does find that it was warranted, and possibly culturally sanctioned in Vastiva. What he does object to is the hypocritical cheering of the mostly Kriovalian crowd, who are more interested in either trickery or violence than the actual fights. In short, he believes in substance over style, and (in case this isn't completely obvious by now), intends to "correct the problem" in Kriovalian culture.

*nods* good call. The fight was between two of the same culture - how your people reacted (and, if I might note to all the "damn him!" posters, how Therassi reacted to them) was a different story.

Hey, I fooled y'all twice with the "Father/Daughter" bit, I'm rather enjoying how y'all are falling into this one as well. :D

Yeah, well, to nearly everybody, Raijin's going to look like a madman - not too many sane people spend the majority of their adult lives trying to cause an apocalyptic event. But then, how many of the insane ever actually succeed? Koro will look like either an innocent victim "sucked in" by Raijin's charms or possibly like the mastermind himself, goading Raijin on. Of course, any of those surface analyses will fall completely flat, but that's half the fun, isn't it?

EDIT: I'm taking the liberty of moving Gelt somewhere where Raijin will have reasonably easy access to him post-Conception. Yes, I recognize that Gelt is straight. I think the interplay might be interesting, and of all the PCs, I think that Gelt might play best across from Raijin and company. If you either like or dislike this idea, let me know.

Like, you read my mind, dude. :)

Ah... this looks fascinating. I wish I had a reason to have a Cager in Krioval. It's the same problem as "Festival of Fighters" for me-Cagers generally try to avoid fights (they then fight like berserkers, but it's not something they are exceptionally proud of...)

Ah, well, unless I can figure out a good 'hook' before the real action starts, I guess I'll have to sit back and read...

Ah, well, unless I can figure out a good 'hook' before the real action starts, I guess I'll have to sit back and read...

Keep in mind that the FoF was meant to be a big celebration - one of your people could be there just to "soak up the culture" (oops, bad timing!) or to poke around looking for trade possibilities (see previous parenthetical phrase). In fact, you could even make your arrival retroactive in the FoF thread and continue here. Keep in mind that the goal's just to get people where they're going to be, and worry about tiny little things like plausibility of introductions later.

Heck, put them in as a follower or hanger-on (or curiosity-seeker) of one of my Trade Delegates. Heh. That'll excuse most anything.

I think I've found a way to do it.

Character:

Saul Kovaly
Age:44
Profession: Journalist (Helsinki Tribune, Newspaper)
Reason for being in Krioval: Festival of Fighters, part of Mr. Kovaly's continuing "Accidental Tour" series of International News articles.

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 250 Lbs
Physicals: Average strength, below-average endurance. Smoker, hard-drinker, insomniac. Thinning brown hair, heavy build.

Skills: Writer, Photographer, Polyglot (Natural gift for learning languages), Observer, Interview, Charm, Research.

Secondary Skills: Novelist, Brawler, big-game hunter.


History/background: Saul Kovaly is a rarity in his home nation-a man curious about the affairs and opinions of the international community. His eyes and his words are the most exposure people in Cadillac-Gage get to the outside world-his articles are often viewed as significantly more reliable than press-releases by the Government, and indeed, no less than External Contacts and Affairs director Suse Randall has endorsed his writing as "Fine and accurate".

Saul's second obsession, is to write Thrillers. He writes them often, using the pen name "Helmut Valkirk". Notably, to those outside his almost obsessive audience back home, his books are panned as "Horrible, Juvenile, common trash". Such is the review of most Pulp writers.

the Novels do, however, allow him to have the money to travel to far-away places (the Trib is a major paper back home, but has a very small budget in comparison) and write his reports. Saul covered the short-lived annexation of Nellisland by the Alaidos Empire, wrote articles in his motel room when The Greater Sixth Reich conquered Estonia, dodged artillery fire, snipers, and military on both sides during a half-dozen conflicts before that, and has quietly observed (and written about) the lives of ordinary people in countries with names like "Roach Busters", "Farmina", and other, even less safe, places.

The boy gets around.

And just remember the characters are reacting thru the lens of their cultures and life experiences.

so it works both ways.

Perigrine reached into the carry on, expecting the baggage to be empty, and instead put her hand in a kodiak max trap.
She is in a way giving him a very backhanded compliment and insult in one- She's reacting as if he were another Nietzschean- one of the ones that get their kicks off of beating up on humans though.

Nax and I are both still in, looking forward to this part of the story...

I'll be in, if that's not already appearnt.

Ah, yes. The Kolte vs. Xander battle. Now there's even a better excuse, seeing as how the Disc will likely affect Xander.

I like the "Saul Kovaly" character. I think his writing should improve dramatically following the Conception/Creation.

As for cultural differences and miscommunications IC? That's what OOC threads are for, I've learned. :D I'll likely never start an involved RP without one now.

Don't worry Saul, I mean 'Helmut' -pulp is some of the best reading out there.

Michiko enjoys it, and it's Perigrine's secret addiction.

Yay!!! The Posse gets to kill stuff!!!

Let's do it.

I'll outline their equipment if you need me to, but it would take some time tio write up and post.

EDIT: Also, not to sound stupid or anything, but I'm sick and not tracking well, so are there any majorly obvious effects of this conception, IE explosions, earthquakes, heavenly bodies(Angelina Jolie does not count, nor does Paris Hilton) shifting, or that general kind of inexplicable phenomena that generally accompany such things as this?

In essence, order goes out the window for a bit. As people try to figure out what's going on, it slowly gets re-established. The important thing becomes trying to figure out how the post-Conception world works, and good resources would be:

Books on the occult or on Kriovalian legends
Ruined temples
Libraries
Raijin

Also, answering questions or taking particular actions may lead toward a particular outcome. I'll let people know when such an incident has occurred (though I'll be extremely oblique about the nature of the effects until it comes time to add them up).

For pre-emptive clarification:

The status "protected" is not something that's handed out universally. Raijin will not be fully "protected". In fact, most of the recipients of the status are those who would otherwise likely be harmed by those physically or mentally stronger, but less honorable or virtuous. If I forget to mention a "protected's" markings, one clue will be that the first attempt to strike or otherwise negatively interfere in what they're doing (barring their attempt to cause a murderous rampage, which won't happen, but I like to cover as many possibilities as I can) will result in the attacker being repelled slightly. The second, if one is stupid enough to try, gets the attacker pushed to the ground hard, possibly causing injury, and if against a weak barrier like a loose guardrail, can be fatal. The third attack indicates that the initiator is either dumber than rocks or evil beyond imagining, and the person will be fed to the Conception Disc. People who are "protected" will have diminished effects on the Creation, though their will appears already in line with that of the Kriovalian Gods who determine Creation's form.

The status "chosen" is even more rare, and indicates a strong desire by the Gods that one have enhanced influence over the Creation. An upside is that mental attacks tend to be deflected, but physical ones would hit normally. Another downside is that a "chosen" person is marked but not "protected". Apparently the Gods require that someone "chosen" overcome sufficient tribulations to be worthy of making a lasting effect on Krioval. Not too surprisingly, Raijin and Koro will have this status. Others will be identified as the RP progresses. In terms of metagame function, "chosenness" will affect the shift among various attributes at a larger rate, both in polarity and neutrality.

More to come as I think of it all. :cool:

I think I've found a way to do it.

Character:

Saul Kovaly
Age:44
Profession: Journalist (Helsinki Tribune, Newspaper)
Reason for being in Krioval: Festival of Fighters, part of Mr. Kovaly's continuing "Accidental Tour" series of International News articles.

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 250 Lbs
Physicals: Average strength, below-average endurance. Smoker, hard-drinker, insomniac. Thinning brown hair, heavy build.

Skills: Writer, Photographer, Polyglot (Natural gift for learning languages), Observer, Interview, Charm, Research.

Secondary Skills: Novelist, Brawler, big-game hunter.


History/background: Saul Kovaly is a rarity in his home nation-a man curious about the affairs and opinions of the international community. His eyes and his words are the most exposure people in Cadillac-Gage get to the outside world-his articles are often viewed as significantly more reliable than press-releases by the Government, and indeed, no less than External Contacts and Affairs director Suse Randall has endorsed his writing as "Fine and accurate".

Saul's second obsession, is to write Thrillers. He writes them often, using the pen name "Helmut Valkirk". Notably, to those outside his almost obsessive audience back home, his books are panned as "Horrible, Juvenile, common trash". Such is the review of most Pulp writers.

the Novels do, however, allow him to have the money to travel to far-away places (the Trib is a major paper back home, but has a very small budget in comparison) and write his reports. Saul covered the short-lived annexation of Nellisland by the Alaidos Empire, wrote articles in his motel room when The Greater Sixth Reich conquered Estonia, dodged artillery fire, snipers, and military on both sides during a half-dozen conflicts before that, and has quietly observed (and written about) the lives of ordinary people in countries with names like "Roach Busters", "Farmina", and other, even less safe, places.

The boy gets around.


Tell me, would this character be based off of Harvard Mansul from the Prince Roger books, or just a coincidental similarity?

While I certainly don't mind innovation in my RPs, I do like to know what's going on OOCly before it happens ICly, especially if it's something "weird" like a card having the face of one of your players. As far as the Conception itself goes, there is nothing unusual going on in terms of energies/psionic effects, and there won't be until Raijin actually begins moving the dormant souls around, which won't take place until minutes before the Conception. The man is neither stupid nor careless, and he and Koro aren't the only ones working on this.

From an OOC standpoint, however, I would like to have advance knowledge of anything that could directly affect the storyline, as I loathe having to shift things around days after planning them. While there is nothing inherently wrong with, for example, one's face appearing in a playing card, if the outcome is suspicion about Krioval, that's a problem. Except for the "minor detail" that Raijin Dekker is going to bring about the end of Krioval as people know it later, there is *nothing* out of the ordinary. No strange power spikes causing strange visions or manifestations, or anything like that at all. Thus, people will be completely shocked when the Conception takes place, which is how it should be.

I had toyed with the idea of simply performing the Conception without splitting the thread or announcing it, but I figured that would be OOCly rude beyond words. So please don't do things to my RP using advance OOC knowledge that one's characters cannot possibly be party to. Communication is key - by telegram, posting to this thread, or getting together on IM.

On that note, Shalamar is the only non-Kriovalian to have an idea of what's to come, and that's incomplete at that. Michiko is a bit prepared for what's coming because Raijin and Koro like her and Raijin promised, to her son, that the empress would be safeguarded. I've made a few arrangements to see that Gelt isn't left to his fate in an abandoned hospital. Finally, most Kriovalians will be think that Raijin's stunt is exactly that at first - a stunt for publicity. The result will convince the survivors otherwise.

My other two fighters aren't at all prepared for this - their mindset doesn't allow for this sort of "cosmic weirdness" and they're straightforward in action.

On the other hand, there are two wildcards from a reasonably expected source. Most of the Trade Delegates will find things to hide under - or take the "cowardly" way out with protective tattoos as soon as their presence is made clear. However, Shu'aa na-Daanish Mash'al and his son, Jalil, are both bright and worldly enough to get a handle on things soon enough - and Shu'aa should have a ton of "interesting books" and such in his purchases, particularly as he made a point of invading the museum.

Jalil's friend Zeker, to be fair, isn't likely to catch on for some time as he's more likely to be fixing cars somewhere - or trying to figure out how the DLE Shuttle they arrived on works.

All the "cowardly" trade delegates have to do is say "no" at the right time (HINT: After the question "Do you wish to enter into the Conception?" might not be a bad time for that)

Believe me, Peri might well say no- she knows just how nasty her soul is, and is not into having it eaten to fuel some one elses change.

What did she do? In any case, it would be best for Michiko to be separated from her then - foreign "protecteds" are to have zero effect on the Creation. Of course, if it's something she could theoretically atone for, then the "punishment" could be to safeguard Michiko, which would presumably not be a horrific fate for her.

lol it's pretty bad - using a bomb to send a solar systems sun nova ( and thus wiping out all life in the system ) is pretty much genocide no matter how you look at it, or how much the people deserved it.

I can keep her seperated from Perigrine and the Grendel.. who's going to say no as well, he's firmly of the opinion that he and the gods are best off if not dealing with one another

I think it's time to start pushing forward. If one feels absolutely compelled to write a pre-Conception introductory post, now's the time (where "now" is defined as at least 8 hours, and likely slightly more than that, from the time of this particular post).

After the IC goodness, characters should expect to recover some indeterminate time after the Conception to see the world as described. They'll be asked a series of questions by a nameless voice, and the answers will determine that person's status. For "cheating" purposes, saying "no" to accepting the Conception (or similarly worded questions) gets the character isolated from those participating actively - possibly to an "abandoned" space station where they will be tended indirectly by the Gods, given "protected" status, and otherwise left to wait until the Creation, when they'll rejoin their party and go on their way. Saying "yes" will likely make the character neutral, pending any other questions.

Time will be measured in phases of Kata Kara, and I'm trying to decide whether I want to come up with a cute way of delineating when phase changes occur. Input is always welcome.

Tell me, would this character be based off of Harvard Mansul from the Prince Roger books, or just a coincidental similarity?
Just a coincidental resemblance. I was actually thinking of someone I used to know.

Actually Krioval, you have a TG.

While I certainly don't mind innovation in my RPs, I do like to know what's going on OOCly before it happens ICly, especially if it's something "weird" like a card having the face of one of your players. As far as the Conception itself goes, there is nothing unusual going on in terms of energies/psionic effects, and there won't be until Raijin actually begins moving the dormant souls around, which won't take place until minutes before the Conception. The man is neither stupid nor careless, and he and Koro aren't the only ones working on this.

From an OOC standpoint, however, I would like to have advance knowledge of anything that could directly affect the storyline, as I loathe having to shift things around days after planning them. While there is nothing inherently wrong with, for example, one's face appearing in a playing card, if the outcome is suspicion about Krioval, that's a problem. Except for the "minor detail" that Raijin Dekker is going to bring about the end of Krioval as people know it later, there is *nothing* out of the ordinary. No strange power spikes causing strange visions or manifestations, or anything like that at all. Thus, people will be completely shocked when the Conception takes place, which is how it should be.

I had toyed with the idea of simply performing the Conception without splitting the thread or announcing it, but I figured that would be OOCly rude beyond words. So please don't do things to my RP using advance OOC knowledge that one's characters cannot possibly be party to. Communication is key - by telegram, posting to this thread, or getting together on IM.

On that note, Shalamar is the only non-Kriovalian to have an idea of what's to come, and that's incomplete at that. Michiko is a bit prepared for what's coming because Raijin and Koro like her and Raijin promised, to her son, that the empress would be safeguarded. I've made a few arrangements to see that Gelt isn't left to his fate in an abandoned hospital. Finally, most Kriovalians will be think that Raijin's stunt is exactly that at first - a stunt for publicity. The result will convince the survivors otherwise.

I'm sorry, I thought that the conception had already begun. The general response from my people concerning the card was gonna be WTF??!!!, not hmm, this must be Kriovals fault, I was going to have that start a conversation with my characters shaman companion about what could have caused the cards appearance, then he was going to go into a long and drawn out explanation of trickster demons, culminating in a suggestion that, if Roger is so creeped out by this he should go look it up, but I'll have to wait for the conception to start before I follow up, since my time frame was a little off. My intent was for the draw to occur about ten minutes after the conception occured, then they'd get down to the business of their general conception associated priorities(whatever they decide to do about it, I haven't decided that much yet.)

Ten minutes after the Conception, cities will have been destroyed, the Kata Kara will form, and the several laws of nature are going to be on holiday. This is not meant to be a subtle ritual - there's nothing out of the ordinary beforehand, and all hell breaks loose instantly. Seeing as how the Conception represents the judgment and rebirth of Krioval, the Gods have absolutely no reason to "go slow" on any part of it.

In other words, you'll know when the Conception has occurred by the combination of earthquakes, power failures, and the screams of millions as their souls are dragged inexorably into the Conception Disc. Seeing a vision in a playing card will not be your first clue that something's most definitely wrong. Thus, I ask that, aside from introductory material, don't make any assumptions without clearing them here first.

Ten minutes after the Conception, cities will have been destroyed, the Kata Kara will form, and the several laws of nature are going to be on holiday. This is not meant to be a subtle ritual - there's nothing out of the ordinary beforehand, and all hell breaks loose instantly. Seeing as how the Conception represents the judgment and rebirth of Krioval, the Gods have absolutely no reason to "go slow" on any part of it.

In other words, you'll know when the Conception has occurred by the combination of earthquakes, power failures, and the screams of millions as their souls are dragged inexorably into the Conception Disc. Seeing a vision in a playing card will not be your first clue that something's most definitely wrong. Thus, I ask that, aside from introductory material, don't make any assumptions without clearing them here first.

ok, playing card is now a joke by poertena, solves that.

Question - does agreeing to be part of the Conception mean you're automatically screwed, or does it mean you have the opportunity to be screwed but also the chance to do something more?

Clarifiying for player actions later.

Incidentally, she wouldn't have minded Vastiva in july. A colder climate was pretty much what DA had, anyway. Granted, not as cold as antarctica, but...

Let's see... temperatures around minus 160, not including wind chill... had two meters of snowfall in the last two weeks (well, yes, that's including the hurricaine we caused, but still....). And it's only June.

Agreeing to become part of it means that you have a chance to affect things - but there's the possibility of being completely screwed. It's a lot like life in a way. If you want to make a splash, there's a bit of risk involved. Fortunately, the Gods have both a desire to restore a fallen soul and a sense of humor as to how this is accomplished.

Also, it bears mentioning that not everybody who suffers or even dies during the Conception (and before the Creation) is evil. Some innocent people will meet undesirable fates, and most of these will be restored to life after the Creation. Naturally, some won't be - just as they wouldn't have been if life had continued on as normal. Still, that number should be reasonably small, considering the scale of the disaster.

Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you - The Conception. I'll get more descriptive about the landscape shortly. The cylinder I mentioned actually is a buffer against the more destructive effects of the ritual, and their distribution is what effectively allowed for such a high survival rate (between 93.3 and 98.7%), depending on whether Raijin's body count is closer to 10 or 50 million.

On the other hand, it must certainly take guts to do what he did when he did it. He's facing re-election in less than six weeks - most politicians would wait until after the election cycle. :D

*counts* Yep, so far no Vastivan deaths. Though someone is gettng some spectacular coverage somewhere, and we'll want to buy it... :D

In other words, you'll know when the Conception has occurred by the combination of earthquakes, power failures, and the screams of millions as their souls are dragged inexorably into the Conception Disc.Didn't know Krioval's general promiscuity summoned a second Slaanesh... Ahem.

Let's see... temperatures around minus 160, not including wind chill... had two meters of snowfall in the last two weeks (well, yes, that's including the hurricaine we caused, but still....). And it's only June.I'm fairly aware of Antarctica's temperatures, thank you very much (Even though vastiva seems to suffer like Zvarinograd, temperatures colder than what we know IRL... but hey). You seem to be less than aware of the sheer amount of wankiness I've poured into my citizens, though...

But seriously, if your people live there, why not someone else, hm? And DA isn't exactly a tropical paradise... Given the amount of background radiation, chemical waste, vaguely dangerous fauna & flora, *really* acidic rain, exploding nuclear artillery, missile strikes, psionic warfare, risk of orbital bombardement, insect-sized drones exploding in your ears, radioactive hurricanes, the likes...

On the other hand, it must certainly take guts to do what he did when he did it. He's facing re-election in less than six weeks - most politicians would wait until after the election cycle.Pft. From what I've read, I'm almost certain they would vote him if he just went on a murdering rampage, killing countless people to his left and right, eating children, violating virgins...

And for the first part, he's doing it :P

Now, now - it's not as if Raijin directly killed those people. It was an act of the Gods. Can't help that, now can we? Rationalization is fun.

Slaanesh? Like his is the only problematic force in Krioval. If anything, Raijin's general complaint could be summarized thus: "People misuse the Forces", meaning that the strong are being bullies, the intelligent are being manipulators, and the attractive are beguiling other to get their way. It's a traditional cultural belief of Krioval that one should be "with the Gods" in their daily life, and its one of the few old precepts that Raijin upholds. Trust him to embark on one of the more extreme methods of correcting the perceived problem.

One just has to remember that the Universe really is about love and blowing things up.

but sheesh, there had to be nicer ways!

So, um when does that whole questioning gig start, just curious.

No Raijin didn't directly but he did engineer/ summon/ activate what led to their deaths, - and it's his karma to bear - not an easy burden I assure you.

And ya know - it's beginning to sound as if Koro was set up for all of this- a conspiracy to bring him closer under the influence of Raijin - hrmmmmm...

who me? Machiavelli? never?


I do Byzantine much better...

OOC: Is it too late?

Feel free to join in. Did you want to put someone in the middle of post-Conception Krioval or are you more interested in ther international political aspect of things?

Well, being new to everything, what is more suitable?

The short version:

Having a character in Krioval involves either allowing that character to be subject to the judgment of the Kriovalian Gods (so don't pick someone who is completely evil unless you want the character to die painfully) and therefore be able to influence the future Krioval that will result from the Creation OR the foreign character will be sequestered somewhere reasonably safe until the turmoil is over. The first option's the fun one, but some minor characters may opt for the second and still play a role in this story.

From the POV of another nation, Krioval, a future tech nation, just "disappeared" - no communications, no trade, and there's this strange energy barrier preventing people from entering or leaving. The post-Conception Krioval is effectively self-contained. That doesn't leave many options for international involvement (yet), but I toss it out there just because I feel that post-Conception, post-Creation Krioval will have a lot of explaining to do.

If you've got an interesting idea, put some of it on this thread and we'll see how you can be worked in. I'd hate to be considered a RP snob so early in my time here. :D

Hmmm...Someone will be there then, not taking a gamble

It's not really a gamble if it's cleared OOC first. ;)

No, not taking the risk and being sequestered away.

So, about getting in...

Tanara, check TGs.

Alright, now I'm interested in the panatheon Krioval has.

Consider: I have an older scholar/businessman... a young buck who has taken elitism to a brand new level... a "good ole boy" mechanic... and a fighter who bled out on the arena floor.

Do tell how the gods would view, could view, impacts?

Sorry about the lack of updates - I was out drinking with a friend, and that was after my roommate made me dinner. Birthdays are fun! :D

But it's over and done with now, and I'm getting ready for bed. I'll post something a bit more relevant tomorrow (well, actually, later today - it's nearly one in the morning).

Happy Birthday, and hope its just getting better not getting older.

Near-future timeline:

Right now, Kata Kara is bright but waning in intensity. When it reaches its dark phase, the so-called "Final Judgment" will occur. This is when the Disc will drain the souls of the unrighteous. Kata Kara is a strange construct, but it fiercely protects those marked as such, including children. Once judgment is passed, and souls are merrily (OK, not really) being dragged into the Conception Disc, it will brighten again. When it reaches its full phase, it releases an ethereal shockwave that induces aggression and other base impulses. Then Kata Kara wanes again, causing another judgment when it goes dark. This pattern repeats itself until the Creation.

Now for a warning: most children are given protected status. Many adults traveling with children, while not protected, aren't good targets for killing, lest one incur the wrath of the Kata Kara. Also, the Disc will occasionally prevent (or even reverse) damage or death. Thus, caution is advised in taking actions beyond their limits.

I'm still curious about what makes one "righteous".

Basically, those given special protection from the ravages of the post-Conception world are the ones who have sacrificed a certain amount of their time and energy to protect or help others, like a woman who selflessly ran an orphanage for twenty-five years. Also, a few cases may arise where the protected status is conferred on someone who is put in a position to care for others and is also effectively forbidden from interference in the Conception. Most children will be protected, as will some of those too weak to defend themselves properly. Those sufficiently strong and "righteous" will likely decline protection in order to impact the outcome of the Creation.

Ah.

Have evil gods in Krioval?

Oh, right! The pantheon. I'm getting to that on the IC thread, but suffice it to say that the only "evil" force is called "Annihilation", which is thought to be a disembodied essence whose sole motivation is to "unmake" the universe retroactively, obliterating everything on every dimension, including time. A bit more mundane is the thought that too much bias in favor of one God can cause pretty major problems, as can misconstruing or falsely manifesting powers as other powers (for example, considering "destruction" to be considered a "light" power, rather than a "dark" power). This latter issue is something that Raijin will go into greater detail on, seeing as it's his reason for initiating the Conception in the first place.

Really, though, you've just seen what the "good" Gods let happen! Does Krioval need evil ones too?

One such location where the Judgment was especially severe was in a hotel room, where the use of drugs and sex managed to offend even the leniency of the Gods toward such things. The blatant irreverence of the Kriovalian women to the Conception led to the doom of over half of them, with the others sufficiently shaken to have their desire completely ablated. One would even go on, after the Creation, to become a Jenaran priestess, swearing off sex for the remainder of her life. As for the foreigner at the center of events...

Wasn't aware ginseng and B were heavy drugs on Krioval, but I can adapt... :D Who am I kidding?

So now, onto the nature of "sin". Excessive interest in the self?

I'd say that excess of most things can trigger a negative response from the Gods. Basically, there are eleven of them. One'd like to have at least one advocate among the group, or there's a decent risk of a "we don't find you at all useful to anyone or anything" purge. They typically don't punish the "selfless martyrs" for the simple reason that those types usually punish themselves fairly well without help, though a few of the Gods might instead choose to show the opportunities missed through such courses of action. Hypocrisy is a pretty good killer, though, as are excessive violence (surprisingly enough) and instability.

Saul is a chronicler, a professional witness. I think it only fitting that he be forced to choose a 'side'-part penance, I guess...

What do I need to do about my character?

Just drop him or her into the RP somehow. Keep in mind that they'd have to have arrived before the Conception hit. If you've got any questions as to what that character should be doing, feel free to post them here. Maybe you could run into another player's character(s) or something. It's still pretty freeform, as it's in the introductory stage.

Alright, the three active Vastivan's have had sides chosen for them (Zeker will most likely be an "interested bystander" if much of anything). Will be writing those up later.

How should my character arrive?

They will be a "non-intervener"

However your character arrives (you can be vague about it), do it retroactively - the Conception sealed off Krioval from the outside world. Foreign "protected" citizens can still involve themselves in what's going on. Just don't pick unnecessary fights and risk the protection (unless, of course, you *want* to).

So, could someone give my character an opening? I am terrible at intros like this.

Post something about your character here. The more information, the easier it is to do the IC intro.

Well, someone could justnotice something and my character appears.

And I'm doing improv for my character for now due to wrtiter's block.

I really need help with this.

I just need an opening

Post something about your character here. The more information, the easier it is to do the IC intro.
Krioval's right, Zatarack. Post the info on your character and then it will be easier for one of our character's to become involved with yours.

I have writer's block and I can think of nothing at all.

sorry bout my unexplained disapperance, but I graduated last month, and i've been job hunting...

Congratulations on the graduation and good luck with the job hunt. This RP isn't exactly designed for speed (though I'd like to detail the post-Creation Krioval by the end of July or so - right after I pass my thesis proposal).

I'm rather interested in reading that... I'll TG you an email for it if you like.

Have two of the three in obvious play.

;) ... sneaky bastard.

Ok, I've been cut off from the internet for the last couple of days so please forgive my retro-active posts.

And I still can't think of anything.

sorry bout my unexplained disapperance, but I graduated last month, and i've been job hunting...
Ah, that's why I haven't heard from you...did you find a job?

And I still can't think of anything.
So...are you asking if someone could make a character for you?

And I still can't think of anything.

Miehm has a plan for the small guy that wants in on the RP, I, Tanara, and Theao, have people trapped under rubble, my guys fought off what we believe was an attack(no proof that they won't be back) so why don't you have a character be attacked and we hear combat, my troops save you and you've become involved in the RP.

not yet Megas. I'm hoping to work at the casino. My source on the inside tells me that they need people for housekeeping, which is basically bathroom duty, but they'll pay like 11 bucks an hour. I'm more than willing to clean other people crap for that much money...i really am a sad, strange individual aint I...

not yet Megas. I'm hoping to work at the casino. My source on the inside tells me that they need people for housekeeping, which is basically bathroom duty, but they'll pay like 11 bucks an hour. I'm more than willing to clean other people crap for that much money...i really am a sad, strange individual aint I...
Not at all...my grandfather used to work there as a custodian...the old guy got alot of money for that...not to mention benefits...

::drools over the thought of all the potential money he could have in his possession::

Ahh, 11 bucks an hour times 40 hours a week equals lotsa Star Wars viewings

::drools over the thought of all the potential money he could have in his possession::

Ahh, 11 bucks an hour times 40 hours a week equals lotsa Star Wars viewings
that you will take me with you to see...

of course

of course
YAY!! Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

Mini - Please read the rp, and don't assume.

Zatarak, it's been posted in this thread that if you'd give us some idea about your character we'd help if we could, but you have not posted anything on your character.

You have to meet us half way.

Mini - Please read the rp, and don't assume.

Zatarak, it's been posted in this thread that if you'd give us some idea about your character we'd help if we could, but you have not posted anything on your character.

You have to meet us half way.

I'll be good...

whats everyone think bout me and megas' battle? ::sorry bout the shameless plug::

Very well done.

whats everyone think bout me and megas' battle? ::sorry bout the shameless plug::

I liked it, even if there were too many jedi involved...(dislikes jedi outside of SW settings.)

How's my fat, out of shape, forty-something looking to you guys? I thought maybe taking some of the action out of the halls of greatness might be useful, and I think the angle works, but I'd like some feedback on it, just in case I'm missing something important.

I want to hear more about him, so post ! ;)

How's my fat, out of shape, forty-something looking to you guys? I thought maybe taking some of the action out of the halls of greatness might be useful, and I think the angle works, but I'd like some feedback on it, just in case I'm missing something important.

Yes, you're missing you should be a professional writer. ;)

Mini - Please read the rp, and don't assume.

Zatarak, it's been posted in this thread that if you'd give us some idea about your character we'd help if we could, but you have not posted anything on your character.

You have to meet us half way.

That's just it. I cannot think of anything for my character right now.

I'm not meaning to sound as if I'm scolding but come on Zatarack - okay maybe you have writers block as to how to get him intorduced...HOWEVER...

Name, gender, age, profession, hobbies, allergies/ mini medical history, hair and eye color, personality...you have to provide us with something!

You don't have to go this far-

Michiko (http://www.atddm.com/jones.htm)

But give us something

That's just it. I cannot think of anything for my character right now.
You have to actually create a character, THEN we can help you put it into perspective (in this case an intro). We can't go and create one for you...

I liked it, even if there were too many jedi involved...(dislikes jedi outside of SW settings.)
'liked' it? it's not quite over yet... :D

Yes, you're missing you should be a professional writer. ;)
I do have a couple of minor pro-writing credits for Fanpro's Battletech game line, but nothing really substantial. I'm "Good" when I'm working with someone else, kind of like being a rhythm guitarist or session-player, I'm good for a jammin' but I can't seem to get my crap together on my own stuff.

I do have a couple of minor pro-writing credits for Fanpro's Battletech game line, but nothing really substantial. I'm "Good" when I'm working with someone else, kind of like being a rhythm guitarist or session-player, I'm good for a jammin' but I can't seem to get my crap together on my own stuff.

Story of my life. :D

I do have a couple of minor pro-writing credits for Fanpro's Battletech game line, but nothing really substantial. I'm "Good" when I'm working with someone else, kind of like being a rhythm guitarist or session-player, I'm good for a jammin' but I can't seem to get my crap together on my own stuff.

Ah, a clone! :D We should collaborate on something then, no?

You have to actually create a character, THEN we can help you put it into perspective (in this case an intro). We can't go and create one for you...

I have a character, I just can't put down the facts about him.

Statements like:

[Person X] feels as if they have had [intensity] impact on the world...

indicate that the eleven Gods, plus the "Unnamed God" and the "Void" have had their relative power altered by a given action or response, thus shifting the balance. If a single God or "coalition" acquire or lose enough power, subtle hints will be dropped as to the state of things.

Whoo hooo! I'm playing three against each other!

What's the situation?

I should have listened to my English IV Honors teacher when she told me to go to college and become a writer...

I should have listened to my English IV Honors teacher when she told me to go to college and become a writer...
She's not the only one who told you...

I have a character, I just can't put down the facts about him.
Why is that?

Why is that?

it's just that I can't translate it to paper or whatever.

Ahem, did Michiko mention something about yelling loud and long...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/leggy_puppy;_ylt=AsABr6_PcEpf0_MsUpjVJa_tiBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

She's not the only one who told you...

Who else, you? I don't remeber you telling me that...

Who else, you? I don't remeber you telling me that...
I said nothing about being a writer...but I did tell you to go to college.

it's just that I can't translate it to paper or whatever.
Oh...Ok...

Since tomorrow really is the longest day, I don't suppose we'll be seeing tons of posts from you eh, Krioval?

And slightly early - Happy Solstice ya'll!

Since tomorrow really is the longest day, I don't suppose we'll be seeing tons of posts from you eh, Krioval?

And slightly early - Happy Solstice ya'll!
Ah, the longest day of the year has arrived...time to sleep it away! :D

I said nothing about being a writer...but I did tell you to go to college.

It's aight though, hopefully I'll be making some decent money soon...and I guess I could always become a writer later in life...

me am sad... :( I liked Xander and he had to go and die...aww, its aight, i have a feeling that he'll pop up from time to time as a force ghost thingy... :D

Ah, a clone! :D We should collaborate on something then, no?
Sounds interesting.

Well, my character is ready, just need a way in.

Could you post some info on your character?

Could you post some info on your character?

Look back in this thread, even that page, and you'll see the answer.

Look back in this thread, even that page, and you'll see the answer.

Dude - no games. This is an OOC thread, post us something we can work with.

Dude - no games. This is an OOC thread, post us something we can work with.

I've already posted my reason. I can't translate it to paper or whatever.

In case I don't post much over the next five days, it's because I'm traveling across the country to see my sister graduate from high school. I figure that people might want a bit more of my attention than simply for the ceremony, so I'll probably be somewhat busy. I will try to at least log onto the forums and post a sentence or two where it might be useful.

me am sad... :( I liked Xander and he had to go and die...aww, its aight, i have a feeling that he'll pop up from time to time as a force ghost thingy... :D
That'd work good with what Kolte's thinking, the whole 'gotta talk to him one more time' thing...

I've already posted my reason. I can't translate it to paper or whatever.
What exactly to you mean by 'or whatever'?

What exactly to you mean by 'or whatever'?

The metaphor. Whatever you would consider this instead of paper.

Hey! I managed to get a bit of a break from planning my sister's party. I'll probably be off for the rest of the day, but I do intend to finish this RP. Hope everything's going well with everybody.

Hey! I managed to get a bit of a break from planning my sister's party. I'll probably be off for the rest of the day, but I do intend to finish this RP. Hope everything's going well with everybody.

Good enough, just please get the IC thread moving again, we seem to have staklled out.

LOL Krioval, never thought otherwise - you've put too much effort into it.

Just a little unsure of where to go, but that may be due to the meds I'm on. I just so love being woozy.....NOT! :mad:

LOL Krioval, never thought otherwise - you've put too much effort into it.

Just a little unsure of where to go, but that may be due to the meds I'm on. I just so love being woozy.....NOT! :mad:

Meds? Did you break something, or catch some horrible disesase?

Nothing currently broken, and I'd probably prefer if it were a disease ( diseases can generally be cured ).

Old back injury flareing up to the point at which the pain meds come out, and the head goes floating away.

Oh by the way - picked upWe Few, gobbled it down in one sitting. Very enjoyable, and would love to see another to wrap up various things.

Nothing currently broken, and I'd probably prefer if it were a disease ( diseases can generally be cured ).

Old back injury flareing up to the point at which the pain meds come out, and the head goes floating away.

Oh by the way - picked upWe Few, gobbled it down in one sitting. Very enjoyable, and would love to see another to wrap up various things.

I'm reading We Few again, for the umpteenth time, I love the book, it's great, and if you like Ringos stuff you should pick up Into the Looking Glass, it's his newest book(he sure does write fast).

I know the whole "old injury" feeling, I can tell when it's gonna rain by the screws in my knee, so don't be too put out over it, although I don't get pain meds for my knee, lucky bum... :confused:

The metaphor. Whatever you would consider this instead of paper.
Oh! Ok...makes sense...

Sorry 'bout my absence, still working on getting a phone line in my room. Even now I type on my mom's laptop, which is a rarity in itself.

hey Megas, would you want Xander to appear to Kolte at some point during this rp, or should we wait for a new one?

hey Megas, would you want Xander to appear to Kolte at some point during this rp, or should we wait for a new one?
Hmmm...a ghostly Force image of Xander...intriguing. What did you have in mind?

Hmmm...a ghostly Force image of Xander...intriguing. What did you have in mind?

As long as he keeps his robes on... :confused: , wait, sorry wrong mythos... YOU SEE NOTHING!!! :rolleyes:

Hmmm...a ghostly Force image of Xander...intriguing. What did you have in mind?

:thick Dracula accent:

I do not know...perhaps he shall become a bit of a guardian angel...or shall he become one of my children of the night!?

::wraps tattered cape around himself as he ascends into the rafters, which is strange because he lives in a trailer::

:( I have no life...

:thick Dracula accent:

I do not know...perhaps he shall become a bit of a guardian angel...or shall he become one of my children of the night!?

::wraps tattered cape around himself as he ascends into the rafters, which is strange because he lives in a trailer::

:( I have no life...

I agree.

:thick Dracula accent:

I do not know...perhaps he shall become a bit of a guardian angel...or shall he become one of my children of the night!?

::wraps tattered cape around himself as he ascends into the rafters, which is strange because he lives in a trailer::

:( I have no life...
I already knew that...

Let me know when you figure out what role you want Xander to play...


As long as he keeps his robes on... , wait, sorry wrong mythos... YOU SEE NOTHING!!!
lol...i think...

I already knew that...

Let me know when you figure out what role you want Xander to play...



lol...i think...

Ever played FF1? If you have read this comic and the joke will be made known to you.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010723 Then read the two comics after it to get more FF1 robe loss buffoonery.

All right. I'm officially back. Vacation was fun - the parties were fun, and now it's time to return to my reshaping of fictional governments.

All right. I'm officially back. Vacation was fun - the parties were fun, and now it's time to return to my reshaping of fictional governments.

Hmm, Governments... *drooling*

Just a chance, it's all I ask </reference to something I can't remember anything about>

Zatarack,

What is thier name?
What do they look like?
Do you want a male or female character?
Child, teen, adult(under 30), adult, or senior?
What is their profession?
Are they in Krioval on buisness, pleasure or other?
Did they get hurt in the collapse of the city?

Answer these and you'll have a usable character.

If Raijin seems like he's acting weird, that's because he is. Normal days for him don't include killing millions of people and insulting guests, let alone essentially kicking them out on the street. But then, it's post-Conception Krioval, and he's not entirely himself.

*Snort* gee I hadn't noticed. Okay Michiko is out of there.

You're going to have to spell out a little better which god is what side... and if my storyteller or the racer are having any effect.

Right now, there are four groups, as stated in the IC thread. The Christian group, working under the "Divine Punishment" flag, has been all but obliterated by one of the other three. The "Emptiness/Void" group has yet to reveal its leadership. Raijin is leading the "Evil God" group (more below), and Michiko has been forced into leading the "Chaos" group.

The titles aren't really accurate descriptions of the paths, but are more indicative of the mindsets of their adherents. Raijin would rather be considered "evil" than "chaotic", for example. Solokaro currently has the support of most of the male Gods, his core being himself (Light, Life/Defiance), Kovaro (Air, Knowledge/Initiation), Ashiar (Earth, Strength/Order), and Koviros (Dark, Darkness/Chaos). This group tends toward extremes, though they're also honorable and direct (even the chaotic fighter). This puts them in direct opposition with...

...most of the Goddesses, who prefer to work behind the scenes. Ashala (Nature/Balance) is especially interested in keeping Solokaro's posse from gaining dominance, to the point of selecting a half-blooded Kriovalian woman from Tanara (that'd be Michiko, in case it's not obvious at this point). Jenara (Water, Purity/Endurance) is pissed off mainly because Solokaro is about as anti-purity as one can get. Shiara (Fire, Desire/Force) has personal problems with the light God as well, but is more upset that her powers are being "appropriated" by him without permission. Tara (Dark, Fate/Control) would like to see the current balance maintained.

This leaves three "swing voters": Sefaro (Dark, Destruction/Completion), Sol Kiros (Light, Creation/Unity), and Soltiri (Light, Revelation/Freedom). The Aggression/Pacifism axis is pretty well split, though Solokaro's Creation would likely contain a higher Aggression value. The Order/Chaos axis is pretty much shot to hell - neither would, by themselves, upset the balance. If the Gods divide along strict gender lines, Solokaro wins. If they divide along level of intensity, Ashala has a decent chance. There's also the possibility of a split Creation, which could be interesting.

For some strange reason all my answers are ignored by everyone else after. I wonder why?

I did answer your question Zatarack, check post 160, from there answer the questions so we can see about including you.

Just a side note for any one interested, Michiko in her tiredness has 'violated' Tanaran 'operational security' twice in one short converstaion.

and if you can identify the movie, and the song, you get an e -cookie.

and Michiko is correct in her statement about native american plains languages. Neither Lakota or it's parent language Dakota contain the concept/word. He had nothing to be free of, every word, act, decission was made for himself alone. He never even considered speaking/ acting/ deciding for another.*

*Notes on the Lakota language by Ruth Bebe Hill and Chunksa Yuha ( Mr. Yuha was one of a number of very young boys taken 'out of world' by tribal elders and raised immersed in the language and culture until their teens when they were sent forth to learn the ways of the culture that displaced and destroyed their.) Mr. Yuha and Ms. Hill studied the root language and core portions of the Lakota culture together for over ten years in preperation for her authoring the book Hanta Yo. It was written in Lakota then tanslated into english to preserve the concepts and 'logos' as closely as possible. Though it is a work of fiction it is a worthy effort and true to the Lakota world view.

and well we just have to show the 'old boy's club' that sometimes the ladies have something worth saying.

I hope Michiko has a chance to interact with the other gods/ goddesses. Her personal beliefs do not see dark as evil and light as good, sex as evil and abstinence as good, destruction as evil and creation as good. Creation can be harmfull, destruction can be beneficial, and so on.

How ever neutrality, balance, is both good and bad as well.

The wheel ever turns, what goes around comes around...

For some strange reason all my answers are ignored by everyone else after. I wonder why?
Because we've given you everything we can. Now its your turn to give us something, namely, the info on your character. Also, neither I nor Theao have ignored anything you've said. If anything, we've helped you, especially with Theao's post #160.

Megas, I think that Xander will return in a guardian angel-type role, kinda like OB1 in the original SW trilogy. He'll most likely be in a meta-physical state so physical combat won't really be possible for him. I'm not really sure about his ability to use the Force either...I think that it would be cool if he could use the Force to a certain extent, and then have to fade back into the Force so that he can retain his identity until he has...recharged, for lack of a better word. That is if its ok with everybody else that is. ;)

That'd be ok with me ND, as long as it was limited.

Also Krioval, when you say a person has an effect, could you possible say what kind of effect?

Yea, Xander would basically be a battery, and he would only be able to appear when he's gathered enough strength to do so. The more he uses the Force, the faster he disappears until he has to disapperate to recharge. I know how to limit my characters strengths. Think of Xander as a wraith, like in the Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver games. :D

Never heard of that game/game series, so couldn't tell. But your welcome to that role, at least as far as I'm concerned

-_- Why am I the only person whose heard of those games?

I don't play many computer games.

The general point of the "[X] has had an effect..." statements is that the internal score of the Kriovalian Gods is changed every time this occurs, to reflect the attitudes of those in the Conception world. It's not a zero-sum thing, and the intensity of the effect refers to the polarization. Right now, Solokaro is sufficiently advanced in power that he's initiated the final sequence toward the Creation - he fully expects to have close to a majority stake by the time it begins.

Currently, Solokaro leads the pack, but several others are close behind (like Ashala), and not all of them want to see him lead the Creation. I think I dropped hints as to the powers each God represents, so it should be easy enough to determine which acts will power or drain a God's influence. I'd like to keep the actual numbers a bit of a secret for a while longer, though.

the legacy of kain games started out with Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain on Playstation, followed by Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, then the series made the jump to PS2 with Soul Reaver 2, followed closely by Blood Omen 2 and finally with Legacy of Kain: Defiance, which brought the Soul Reaver and Blood Omen stories together...sorry about the tangent, but I am a really big fan of the games, and I am the only person I know whose has played them, let alone heard of them. :cool:

the legacy of kain games started out with Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain on Playstation, followed by Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, then the series made the jump to PS2 with Soul Reaver 2, followed closely by Blood Omen 2 and finally with Legacy of Kain: Defiance, which brought the Soul Reaver and Blood Omen stories together...sorry about the tangent, but I am a really big fan of the games, and I am the only person I know whose has played them, let alone heard of them. :cool:
You guys don't know how many times I've heard this tangent... :p

Anyway, Nax, I've been researching lately, and it looks like Xander may not have to stay dead. Especially since Kolte still has his body...kinda.

Also Nax, just wanted to let you know...my application has finally been processed and I am now the newest member of the ESUS! :D

The general point of the "[X] has had an effect..." statements is that the internal score of the Kriovalian Gods is changed every time this occurs, to reflect the attitudes of those in the Conception world. It's not a zero-sum thing, and the intensity of the effect refers to the polarization. Right now, Solokaro is sufficiently advanced in power that he's initiated the final sequence toward the Creation - he fully expects to have close to a majority stake by the time it begins.

Currently, Solokaro leads the pack, but several others are close behind (like Ashala), and not all of them want to see him lead the Creation. I think I dropped hints as to the powers each God represents, so it should be easy enough to determine which acts will power or drain a God's influence. I'd like to keep the actual numbers a bit of a secret for a while longer, though.

(briefly wonders whose agenda Saul's following...)

(briefly wonders whose agenda Saul's following...)

I guess we'll soon find out - he's now essentially in the same place as Raijin. :cool:

You guys don't know how many times I've heard this tangent... :p

Anyway, Nax, I've been researching lately, and it looks like Xander may not have to stay dead. Especially since Kolte still has his body...kinda.

Also Nax, just wanted to let you know...my application has finally been processed and I am now the newest member of the ESUS! :D
After how long? I seem to remember you mentioning putting in that job-begging form at least as far back as March...And is it possible for Xander to be raised in a younger version of his body? Like say around age thirty, when he was in his prime?

geesh, coming back from the dead at all isn't good enough ;)

geesh, coming back from the dead at all isn't good enough ;)
Seriously...Nax doesn't want much, does he?

Anyhow...I posted the application back in Feb. and they ingnored it for like three months or so. Finally, they gave me my RP topics just a month ago. They absolutely loved the RPs I wrote, so I got in pretty easily.

Also, my source tells me that the body that the Force-spirit is to be bound to must also be the same body that the Force-spirit left. That means making a younger body wouldn't work. Since Xander's body was in several pieces, I decided it would be best if we made him a new one. Think of it as a cast iron pot that gets broken. Its really hard to fix it as it is, so you melt it down and mold a new one out of the old one. That's a semi-accurate analogy.

What is thier name? Quev
Do you want a male or female character? Male
Child, teen, adult(under 30), adult, or senior? Adult(40)
Did they get hurt in the collapse of the city? No

The rest I have no answer for.

Seriously...Nax doesn't want much, does he?

Anyhow...I posted the application back in Feb. and they ingnored it for like three months or so. Finally, they gave me my RP topics just a month ago. They absolutely loved the RPs I wrote, so I got in pretty easily.

Also, my source tells me that the body that the Force-spirit is to be bound to must also be the same body that the Force-spirit left. That means making a younger body wouldn't work. Since Xander's body was in several pieces, I decided it would be best if we made him a new one. Think of it as a cast iron pot that gets broken. Its really hard to fix it as it is, so you melt it down and mold a new one out of the old one. That's a semi-accurate analogy.
:smirks: For those of you who really don't know me that well, sarcasim is a very large part of my life, in fact I do believe that its the reason I've remained as sane (riiiiight) as I have. But I do believe that your analogy is quite accurate, Megas.

-_- Why am I the only person whose heard of those games?


"I know you Raziel..." Loved LOK:SR, but SR2 and BO2 were disappointing, and the new one I haven't played yet.

"I know you Raziel..." Loved LOK:SR, but SR2 and BO2 were disappointing, and the new one I haven't played yet.
The game-play aint the best in the world, but I love the entire story of the games. Vampires and demons and wraiths, oh my!

"As long as a single one of us stands, we are legion..." Kain to Raziel, SR2 opening

The game-play aint the best in the world, but I love the entire story of the games. Vampires and demons and wraiths, oh my!

"As long as a single one of us stands, we are legion..." Kain to Raziel, SR2 opening


"Have I been reduced to this, a mere fratricide..." Raziel after killing his brother Melciah SR1

"Have I been reduced to this, a mere fratricide..." Raziel after killing his brother Melciah SR1
"Your fatalism is tiresome Kain..." Raziel to Kain, SR2. I just got done playing SR2, hence all the quotes from it.

"Your fatalism is tiresome Kain..." Raziel to Kain, SR2. I just got done playing SR2, hence all the quotes from it.

"Call your dogs, they shall feast on your corpses!!" Vorador after slaughtering the Seraphan in the BO opening movie.

"Call your dogs, they shall feast on your corpses!!" Vorador after slaughtering the Seraphan in the BO opening movie.
Ok, I have the ultimate Legacy of Kain quote:

"Vae Victus!" Kain, in every game except BO2 for some odd reason...

Ok, I have the ultimate Legacy of Kain quote:

"Vae Victus!" Kain, in every game except BO2 for some odd reason...

"Vae Victus, woe to the fallen(the games translation is incorrect), ironic that I was the one who had fallen, nothing so pedestrian as mere physichal torment, but the agony of vengeance denied." Kain, BO1 opening movie, before Mortanius does his thing.

OOC: yep

OOC: yep


Are we confusing you, please tell me we're confusing you, it's no fun if you're not confused.

"Vae Victus, woe to the fallen(the games translation is incorrect), ironic that I was the one who had fallen, nothing so pedestrian as mere physichal torment, but the agony of vengeance denied." Kain, BO1 opening movie, before Mortanius does his thing.
I'm so happy. Now Nax can talk to someone else about those games and I don't have to sit there as he ramble on and on and smile and nod and act like I have a clue.

*wipes tears of joy from eyes*

I'm so happy. Now Nax can talk to someone else about those games and I don't have to sit there as he ramble on and on and smile and nod and act like I have a clue.

*wipes tears of joy from eyes*

Glad I could be of help, that'll be five dollars.

Glad I could be of help, that'll be five dollars.
"I found the tomb of Sarafan, Kain...how could you profane a priest by turning him into a vampire!" Raziel to Kain, SR2 opening

"Two incarnations of the blade meet in time and space; a paradox is created, a temporal distortion powerful enough to derail history." Kain to Raziel, SR2

"I found the tomb of Sarafan, Kain...how could you profane a priest by turning him into a vampire!" Raziel to Kain, SR2 opening

"Two incarnations of the blade meet in time and space; a paradox is created, a temporal distortion powerful enough to derail history." Kain to Raziel, SR2


"There comes a time, at the dawning of a new aeon, when it becomes necessary to utter a word, and the planet must be bathed in blood." Paraphrase of the Oracles introduction, BO1.

"Come, drink from us, the blood of ages flows so sweet." Blood Fountain, BO1.

"There comes a time, at the dawning of a new aeon, when it becomes necessary to utter a word, and the planet must be bathed in blood." Paraphrase of the Oracles introduction, BO1.

"Come, drink from us, the blood of ages flows so sweet." Blood Fountain, BO1.
"Redeemer, and Destroyer
Pawn, and Messiah
Welcome, Time Spanned Soul
Welcome, To Your Destiny" Mobius to Raziel in SR2 opening movie

"...fate promises more twists before this drama unfolds...completly..." Kain to Raziel in SR2 opening movie

"What trickery is this?" Raziel, SR opening movie, after meeting The One God.

"Is this your sorcery?" Raziel to Kain before the first paradox in SR2

"Is this your sorcery?" Raziel to Kain before the first paradox in SR2

"Alas poor Nupraptor, I knew him, well, not really." Kain, after killing Nupraptor the Mentalist.

"Alas poor Nupraptor, I knew him, well, not really." Kain, after killing Nupraptor the Mentalist.
"You nearly had me, Raziel, but this is not where or how it ends..." Kain to Raziel, SR2 opening.

Alas, I must log off the internet because my little beast--I mean sister--is raising hell cuz she wants on the com. See ya later.

"You nearly had me, Raziel, but this is not where or how it ends..." Kain to Raziel, SR2 opening.

Alas, I must log off the internet because my little beast--I mean sister--is raising hell cuz she wants on the com. See ya later.


"You will be my Soul Reaver, my angel of death..." The One God, SR opening movie, before Raziel leaves The chamber.

Oh yeah? Well here's some real quotes for you guys!

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should think God that such men lived. -General George S. Patton Jr. speaking about the soldiers of WWII.

Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire

It is the nature of every man to err, but only the fool perserveres in err. -Cicero

Oh yeah? Well here's some real quotes for you guys!

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should think God that such men lived. -General George S. Patton Jr. speaking about the soldiers of WWII.

Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire

It is the nature of every man to err, but only the fool perserveres in err. -Cicero

Your job is not to die for your country, it is to make the other poor bastard die for his. Patton

No damn man kills me and lives.

War to the knife, knife to the hilt, you mess with me your gonna get killt.

Last two General Natan Bedford Forrest

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety nine percent perspiration. -Thomas Edison

Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant taste death only once. -Shakespeare

A strong defense is the surest way to peace. Gerald R. Ford

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety nine percent perspiration. -Thomas Edison

Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant taste death only once. -Shakespeare

A strong defense is the surest way to peace. Gerald R. Ford


My right one is iron, my left one is steel, if my right don't getcha, my left one will. Forrest again.

Friendly fire isn't. Murphy.

It is good that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it. Grant.

A few things:

First, the tone of this post is affected greatly by the fact that my thesis proposal is due to happen two weeks from now, except that I can't confirm the date until next week - and I meet with one of the members tomorrow morning. So it'll be bitchier than it probably needs to be. Tough.

Can we please keep the OOC thread at least tangentially related to the RP thread? I don't mind a few posts of the "random quotes" variety, but really, that's not what this thread is for. There are plenty of other places to have a "quote-off", and I'd appreciate being able to find the posts about the Conception RP without having to wade through posts of spam, well-intentioned as it might be.

Also, I'm rather upset at the "shooting at creatures" post. There are no "creatures". The RP takes place in an industrialized human society on Earth. The characters are, for the most part, in the capital city. The only attackers, then, would likely be human. I'd be freakishly surprised that people have reverted completely to barbarism over the course of two RP days. In other words, the attack didn't happen. Fix it.

With regard to levels of violence in general, the level of "random" brutality should actually be waning. Think about it. The "worst" of society is already dead, and most of the vengeance killings have already occurred. Anywhere from one in ten to one in three Kriovalians are in the Disc. Raijin's Army controls levels four and five of Torokara completely, and they have modest influence over the rest. As things progress toward the Creation, most citizens are either going to ride it out, spread the word about the myths as they hear them (as Vastiva's storyteller will help do), or attempt to influence the Creation through prayer or various actions (though that will be mostly "background").

*************

The situation as it currently stands:

Jalil (Vastiva's storyteller) is having a strong influence on the Creation, but indirectly through the actions of those who hear him speak.

"The racer" (whose name I can't remember) hasn't had much an effect yet.

Michiko has had so strong an effect that she was tapped to contend with Raijin for the Creation. She is heading, with a few others, to a temple on an island east of the capital.

Valkai continues to be Valkai - utterly impenetrable in terms of emotional issues, and evasive to the extreme.

Raijin has announced the timetable for the Creation, and along with Kiv, Koro, and Darvek (and Saul, as it appears), is on the now-separated sixth level of Torokara.

Speaking of Saul, he has yet to make his impact, but I'm sure he will soon.

Gelt is being questioned by Kiyoshi in an attempt to establish Gelt's vision of what the Creation should be.

Ultimately, all the answers will be totaled up, weighted according to the person's strength of intent and proximity to the Creation itself, and that will be (through some black-box function) converted into the new form of Krioval, which could range from the boring (almost exactly as it was) to the rather interesting (polyandrous matriarchical oligarchy, for example). In any case, the "new" Krioval will then be RP'd accordingly by me (so I expect to have quite a bit of say in the outcome - shocking, I know).

Can we please keep the OOC thread at least tangentially related to the RP thread? I don't mind a few posts of the "random quotes" variety, but really, that's not what this thread is for. There are plenty of other places to have a "quote-off", and I'd appreciate being able to find the posts about the Conception RP without having to wade through posts of spam, well-intentioned as it might be.
Uh...sorry...

Uh...sorry...

Not the end of the world (pun intended?). So, is the resurrection slated to work out? If it does, sources tell me that Raijin will benefit tremendously from the Creation effect.

Not the end of the world (pun intended?). So, is the resurrection slated to work out? If it does, sources tell me that Raijin will benefit tremendously from the Creation effect.
Yes, Xander will be ressurected within the next few (of mine and Nax's) posts. Although I didn't realize we'd be affecting the Creation with it. Interesting, tell us more...

All of my best stuff happens when I'm attempting to stroke my ego...Ain't I right, Megas? This whole resurrection thing was just to bring Xander back cuz he's one of my favorite characters (out of all two of them)

Ok Krioval, I'll be good, the creatures are now thugs who have survived this long, and there are thirty of them, I needed a way to kill off Rastar and decided this would be a good way to do it, and I'll stop the quote insanity too, even if it is fun.

See, the problem with rampant violence and attacks on main characters is that, in a character RP, which "The Conception" is, things need to follow the storyline. I'll grant that this is extremely freeform, seeing as how I try not to think more than two (RL) days ahead on the "script", but the "30 thugs" are technically part of Krioval, and therefore up to me to RP or grant permission for others to RP if they're to play an important aspect of the story. Next time, Mini Miehm, please *ask* before jumping into things like this.

As it stands *now*, the last remnants of resistance are beginning to fall to Raijin's Army, which will secure Torokara before the Creation. Valkai will have the transport device active before the attack - those crucial to Michiko's safety will make it through. That would be Valkai plus anybody Tanara says are important, by the way, not half the population of the city. They'll then head east to the next plot twist...er...destination.

Mini- check your tg's

and LOL Krioval, so Valkai's important to Michiko's safety?

interesting...

The situation as it currently stands:

Jalil (Vastiva's storyteller) is having a strong influence on the Creation, but indirectly through the actions of those who hear him speak.

"The racer" (whose name I can't remember) hasn't had much an effect yet.

Gelt is being questioned by Kiyoshi in an attempt to establish Gelt's vision of what the Creation should be.

Ultimately, all the answers will be totaled up, weighted according to the person's strength of intent and proximity to the Creation itself, and that will be (through some black-box function) converted into the new form of Krioval, which could range from the boring (almost exactly as it was) to the rather interesting (polyandrous matriarchical oligarchy, for example). In any case, the "new" Krioval will then be RP'd accordingly by me (so I expect to have quite a bit of say in the outcome - shocking, I know).

I'm rather shocked.

Sh'uaa (the storyteller) is placing much of Vastivan and Arabic (and Hebrew, and Germanic, and Russian) culture into the hearts and minds of Krioval's many, through the introduction of stories during a time of trouble, to the young and the old, the infirm and the healthy. As this is the Conception, these elements - as they are passed on, as memes do - become more a part of Krioval-to-be, albeit in a very subtle way.

Jalil, the racer, is performing exactly what his patroness is instructing him to do - changing the slight balances of things to fall in her favor. No single action is great, but then again, that's not how she does things. Instead, the sum total of events is designed so when her foes need a firm place to stand, it's coincidentally absent. No grand sweeps - just tiny movements. Water, not fire.

Gelt responded.

Ahem

You've created your charactar, now have him do something, like witness the re-birth of Xander or something

I'm rather shocked.

Sh'uaa (the storyteller) is placing much of Vastivan and Arabic (and Hebrew, and Germanic, and Russian) culture into the hearts and minds of Krioval's many, through the introduction of stories during a time of trouble, to the young and the old, the infirm and the healthy. As this is the Conception, these elements - as they are passed on, as memes do - become more a part of Krioval-to-be, albeit in a very subtle way.

Jalil, the racer, is performing exactly what his patroness is instructing him to do - changing the slight balances of things to fall in her favor. No single action is great, but then again, that's not how she does things. Instead, the sum total of events is designed so when her foes need a firm place to stand, it's coincidentally absent. No grand sweeps - just tiny movements. Water, not fire.

Gelt responded.

Ah, so I've mentally merged two of your characters. I'll blame that on a combination of having a lot going on in RL right now and being a twit. I leave it to the readers to determine which was the deciding factor.

That explains quite a bit. My apologies, though the effects of the characters' actions are (fortunately) independent of their identities - at least for now.

You've created your charactar, now have him do something, like witness the re-birth of Xander or something

The only problem: I don't see many openings.

I just gave you one, or make your own, have your character go rescue someone, if you can't find an opening, improvise. Me, Tanara, one of Krioval's and Mini Miehm's characters are going to a temple or somesuch, have him be outside the temple grounds. Be imaginative.

I'm afraid I don't consider being in a transdimensional network an opeing.

Not where they are now, where they'll end up at the end of the tunnel.

Alright then.

Wow, I pegged Saul right... "there wherever the story is..." He's stressed out, doesn't really understand what's going on, but he's keen to get to the bottom of it!

Krioval: In many mythologies, there are heroes born under extreme circumstances. The child's mum was a corpse when he came out, and the luck of having Saul there to rescue, nurture, and guard him is quite unlikely under more normal conditions.
Is there anything you could use the kid for?

(I've [b]Got[/i] to name the baby...)

Since you have, quite inadvertantly of course, taken him into the lions den, name him Daniel...or if not a lion tamer, how about a place of lions, Tsavo.

Hey everybody, I've started a thread you all might be interested in, so here's a link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430550 it's filling up fast and should be pretty interesting.

Reading over the thread again, I realize that it has just about everything in it:
death, betrayal, destruction, love, chaos, suffering, joy, ressurrection...set to the background of hell breaking loose...we are all truly twisted aren't we? But who cares, it all makes for a damn good RP.

True that. But alas, for this may be mine and/or Nax's last post for quite a while, for we are about to experience hell breaking loose if Hurricane Dennis' path turns anymore to the east than it already is. *sigh* As if we didn't get enough fucking hurricane's last year, now we're getting them a month before we're supposed to this year. So either/both of us may lose our power, our houses. Or we may die. You never know with these things. Pray for us...

True that. But alas, for this may be mine and/or Nax's last post for quite a while, for we are about to experience hell breaking loose if Hurricane Dennis' path turns anymore to the east than it already is. *sigh* As if we didn't get enough fucking hurricane's last year, now we're getting them a month before we're supposed to this year. So either/both of us may lose our power, our houses. Or we may die. You never know with these things. Pray for us...

We just got Xander back, we can't lose him again, you're forbidden to die, under penalty of death.

Now seriously, I'll pray for you.

I didn't realize Xander had fans... :eek:

I didn't realize Xander had fans... :eek:

Why wouldn't he?

Hmm. I just never really thought about it. Of course, I'm probably his biggest fan....

Hmm. I just never really thought about it. Of course, I'm probably his biggest fan....

I'm going to refrain from commenting on that any more than sayng "Xander rocks, he's a great character, of course he has fans, and even if you didnt think, at least you know now."

Ok, whats gonna happen with Xander and Kolte now that they're pretty much on their own now? They gonna get attacked by anyone in particular, or will they just have to wander around with their thumbs up their arses?

I'm just glad Dennis turned away from us, Nax. Of course, we're still getting a shitload of rain off of it. Get this Nax, the weather channel said we might get an inch of rain last night, and a few inches today...

Nax brings up a good point, what do Xander and Kolte do when Kolte wakes up? Any suggestions Krioval?

So...Xander's resurrection allowed Raijin to enter the disc...didn't see that coming...how is that gonna affect the dynamic duo? Is Raijin gonna come looking for them or what?

Did I miss my chance?

Did I miss my chance?
What, you can't come up with a character for the RP, or you just don't know how to work him into it? Believe it or not, but I was one of the last people to join in on this little adventure back in the Festival of Fighters thread, and now it appears that I've played a part in taking the whole RP in a new direction. Know how I did it? I'm a good friend of Megas and he let me create a character that was originally suppose to help his character out by DYING! Just come up with something and run with it.

I knew how much this would affect things, but I couldn't see not giving an old man a second chance at life- use it well, or ...

Raijin's goal, at least initially, is to bring everybody participating in the Conception/Creation to the same place. Why he intends to do that (and in fact that he intends to do that) have yet to be revealed.

Thus, if Xander and Kolte want in, that's cool, but give me an idea of how to integrate them. Should they "randomly" make their way to the right place, or should they be guided into position? Should they oppose, favor, or be indifferent to Raijin's plans? Are they interested in controlling the force of Creation?

Well, I suppose that Xander would tempted to aid Raijin if the end result were a peaceful world free of corruption, but would ultimately side with Kolte. Seeing as he is only one half of the duo, I really can't say anything much at this point, though the best way to get them there would probably be guiding them there by some means.

*poof* puppet change for the time being.

You've got me worrying that I should start a puppet nation...just in case. :rolleyes:

Eyes VA warily...

and seeing how Raijin/Solokaro is/are aggression orineted, I don't think peaceful is in the picture...

Keep in mind that during Raijin's time in office, Krioval's gone almost record length (nearly eight years) without some form of armed conflict. Now, whether that's because of or despite him... :D

well, if it comes down to an all out battle between Raijin vs Xander and Kolte, shtuff is gonna hit the fan. The two Jedi are already freakin powerful with the Force, both are master swordsmen, and both can come up with unorthadox ways to attack someone. Their battle showed that; imagine the hell that would break loose if they were to combine their power...

Well, I suppose that Xander would tempted to aid Raijin if the end result were a peaceful world free of corruption, but would ultimately side with Kolte. Seeing as he is only one half of the duo, I really can't say anything much at this point, though the best way to get them there would probably be guiding them there by some means.
I concur. I don't believe either Kolte or Xander will want to provoke a fight with Raijin.

As for how they get there, they missed the chance to go with Michiko and company, but they'll be after the same goal still, a way out. So, if you could use that to guide them to your designated spot, Krioval, I think that'd be acceptable.

So that means that Xander and Kolte will side with Raijin, then. So that will put them at odds with Michiko and Co. Either way, looks like we're gonna have to think up another kick arse fight Megas.

Indeed. Have you tried downloading Yahoo IM lately? Now that you no longer have AOL it might work...hopefully...