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OMASC Proudly Introduces and Unveils the
B-108 Thunderhawk Heavy Supersonic Strategic Bomber Aircraft

Origin and Introduction
Through the long developments of a series of older bomber aircraft, such as the B-101 and the B-105 designs, OMASC engineers has looked further into such designs, as one of the leaders of bomber designs in the NS world. Having fostered great experienced with such designs, OMASC is also willing to further invest to gradually build the ultimate bomber designs in the world that few can rival. Thus, the B-108 Thunderhawk is born as the ultimate heavy-hitter of all existing Omzian bomber designs. A clear blend of the key features of existing designs, and designed in response to Omzian Air Force requests, the Thunderhawk is the ultimate design that strikes fear into any enemy and the target that they valiently protects.

Like a dark raven sweeping down in the crimson sky, and delivering a fiery payload of explosive and rocket power, the Thunderhawk is a perfect blend of a sleek airframe in its physical attributes, and fear-striking performance in its capabilities. Technically however, the Thunderhawk is designed to complement existing B-101D and B-105A bombers in the low-level, high speed, penetration role, delivering a lethal swarm of precision strike munitions against enemy targets, while also capable of of protecting itself both nonviolently and lethally.

Currently, it is expected that Omzian Air Force will file up a request for approximately 1000 said aircraft, with exports being expected.

Design and Physical Characteristics
Airframe
The Thunderhawk features a sleek and aestically smooth design, with a pair of large variable geometry ("swing") wings and an elegant look overall. Though some may associate it with the B-1B and the B-105 in its appearance, the airframe of the Thunderhawk is in many respects vastly different respect. Its two massive swing wings allows excellent performance at both low and high levels, while its performance is further aided by the availability of a pair of canards, two horizontal stabilizers, and one signal vertical stabilizer, in addition to an advanced fly-by-optic system. Its airframe is rife with the application of advanced titanium alloys and composite materials, along with thin layers of armour to protect cruical components of the aircraft. This allows the aircraft not only to sustain the brutality of low-level flight and stress of extended operations, but also increasing its survivability against deadly projectiles and shrapnels. Outside, the aircraft is tipped with a supersonic boom reduction nose design, and is covered in a shower of RAM coatings and materials, along with RAS schemes embedded further into the airframe, allowing a RCS just slightly larger than those of a B-1B. It's fuselage is also relatively smooth, though under it, it is dotted by the signs of six bays of different sizes, in addition to a total of nine hardpoints on its large wing gloves and under its fuselage.

On its surface, other countermeasures are not forgotten. The centerpiece of this is the special electrochromic panels on the aircraft, allowing the aircraft to manipulate its IR signature (such as blending the edges of the aircraft's signature) to confuse IR-guided airto air missiles. This effectively serves as a countermeasure, "modifying" the signature of the aircraft itself by essentially overlapping the actual signature with the newly generated siguature, to confuse enemy missiles. An optical camouflage system is also installed, which consists of small nodes around the aircraft displaying different shades of colour, based on reference images from cameras placed around the aircraft. This effectively allows the aircraft to slightly "blend" into its surrounding, thus decreasing the chance of visual detection. Lastly, the aircraft is also normally painted in either a light blue-coloured, low-reflection scheme; alternatively, it can be painted in a green-blue-brown camouflage scheme, for low-level flights. To combat contrails, a chemical-based contrail suppression system is used.

Propulsion
The bomber is powered by six of the huge Honjak Electrics HEK-1031A PDE-turbofan hybrid engines, each providing a max thrust ratings of 86,000lbs, providing the aircraft with a gigantic and powerful push that is unseen in any previous Omzian bomber aircraft. Originally designed for heavy fighters, these six engines are constructed with advanced alloys, allowing excellent strength and heat resistance characteristics. These six engines are placed beneath the airframe, just near the wing roots, in which air are provided through six gigantic, variable intakes that allows great air flow characteristics, though att he cost of a larger radar cross section. The engines then end in six separate nozzles, which all possesses a 2D thrust vectoring capability, giving excellent maneuveribility characteristics for a large bomber aircraft. To prevent some unwanted effects of damages, the engines and fuel tanks also includes an emergency fire extinguishing suite, along with their complement of armour coverings.

The propulsion system in general, allows the aircraft to possess a maximum speed of around Mach 2.53, while the aircraft is also capable of conducting Mach 1.8 high-altitude dashes or low level penetration at speeds of up to Mach 1.25. At subsonics speeds, the aircraft can even loiter for extended periods of time for special operation scenarios, while the engine's fuel saving measures is also more obvious.

Crew Operations
Though the bomber has one of the highest numbers of crew members, there is no exception made in providing them both a wide spectrum of advanced controls, and comfort within a warmachine of such scale. The aircraft is controlled by a total of five crews, including a pilot/navigator and copilot/flight engineer, a bombardier, and a defensive systems operator. Each crew member are faced with a wide array of MFD screens, each capable of displaying a variety of different data and information. For the bombardier and defensive systems operators, they are also capable of accessing a trackball system, while the pilot and copilot relies on a touchscreen system. Optionally, they can also access a voice command system, along with a control system which consists of special sensors and switches placed within their mouths. Further, the pilot is also provided access to a HUD system and a helmet sight system, along with a hands-on control stick system similar to those in fighters. Each crew member also sits on advanced ejection seats with a variety of safety measures, and are also complemented by an advanced flight suit system that uses a fluid-based system.

Crew comfort is not neglected. The ejection seats are cushioned to give each crew member much comfort during >10-hour operations, and also includes audiable warning systems. Lights are also positioned in the best locations, while a heat and cooling system is also provided. Sunlight peers through windows that are covered by RCS materials, while a small storage compartment is available behind the cockpit, extending crew comfort by allowing them to obtain the food they need and to refresh themselves.

Avionics and Systems
Offensive Avionics
The Thunderhawk, though overly large as a bomber aircraft, also boasts a wide spectrum of avionics and other offensive systems as well, used for the detection, tracking, and engagement of hostile and other targets of importance. These sensors are arranged and placed strategically around the aircraft, while they are all electronically linked to the powerful central fire-control computer system. Code-named 'Oberon', the system consists a system of processors that automatically receives, analyzes, and processes the information gathered from multiple sensors on the bomber, and consequently processing them into firing solutions against both ground and air targets.

Linked to the central targeting computer, is a wide array of sensors, designed to detect both ground and aerial targets. The first of these sensors is the Noran Bonobert AN/APG-388/389 ELPI radar, which consists of a frontal sensor and a rearward-facing sensor desigend for the detection of aertial and ground targets, in addition to carrying out navigation and ground-mapping tasks. Each radar is designed with concealment in mind, thus the radar includes LPI characteristics in addition to the ELPI software and hardware suite, allowing better performance than existing first-generation LPI radar system. Both radar are also capable of jamming other radars (simialr to the Thor system on the F/A-22), focusing a high level of energy on an enemy radar or communication system emitter, thus jamming them temporarily. In terms of detection and navigation, the radar is said to be able to detect fighter-sized targets at a range of around 200km, with full look-down and look-up capability, in addition to detecting ground targets and conduct ground mapping with great precision. In total, it is said that both the frontal and rearward sensor combined can track and generate firing solutions for more than 40 targets at one time.

The second line of systems is a dedicated IRST sensor mounted on the chin of the aircraft, designated the Noran Bonobren INRADAT (INfRAred Detection and Targeting), which is a very powerful forward-looking infrared system designed for the detection, tracking, and targeting of both aerial and ground targets out to a range of approximately 130km. It is fully capable of tracking and targeting unlike older IR sensors, while its precision allows limited target discrimination capability. The system is also linked to an IFF system. The third major system is the Noran LPR/22M LADAR suite, which is a pulse laser-based active detection and ranging system that is capable of detecting, targeting, and tracking both aerial and ground targets over a range of approximately 120km, under ideal weather conditions.

The second suite of systems is the advanced Target Identification, Detection, Engagement, and Analysis System (IDEAS) system, which is composed of two large rotatable pods, each one mounted under each wing gloves of the aircraft. Each pod consists of a short-range FLIR system, a low-light TV system, a suite of colour cameras, and a short-range precision LADAR system, which are all designed to exclusively target, track, and engage ground targets with great precision in all weather conditions. This is especially useful in the low-level penetration role and operation against real-time and time-critical targets, since it allows the aircraft to independently detect and track a variety of ground targets. The pod can also be used as a reconaissance system, as its powerful cameras and FLIR system are capable of capturing reconaissance photographs and other information of importance. These pods are also linked to a datalink, which is then directly linked to friendly assets, thus allowing both the uploading and downloading of targeting information to and from friendly assets. Each pod, though normally facing forwards, can rotate by up to 120 degrees for better targeting capabilities.

The third suite of systems is the bomber's communication systems. Composed of a series of extensive datalinks and communication systems, the suite allows the bomber to communicate with other assets via a variety of ways through secure radio links. At closer ranges between bomber formations flying at higher altitudes, a line-of-sight laser-based communication is also used in ideal weather conditions, thus allowing short-range communication under radio silence. Further, the extensive datalinking systems allows the aircraft to both upload and download targeting data of both ground and air targets. The datalinking system can also be linked with some weapon systems, which means that the bomber's crew can reassign targets to cruise missiles inflight, while GPS guided bombs can be guided to hit moving targets by feeding it with a continuous stream of GPS coordinates and other targeting data.

Defensive Avionics and Systems
The defensive suite of systems is equally impressive, as in order to successfully and fully accomplish its mission under danger within enemy airspace, it is important for the Thunderhawk to possess a broad array of defensive systems. The centerpiece of this is the advanced COWS-XII system, which is a further development of the COWS-IX system that not only improves upon its computing and signal processing capabilities, but its overall capabilities as well.

The COWS-XII suite includes an advanced radar warning receiver system, which is connected to a computer, allowing the analysis of radar and communication signals, thus not only allowing better detection of LPI threats, but also allowing the bomber to act as an ad-hoc and "rough" alternative to dedicated ELINT aircraft as well. A LADAR warning receiver (LWR) system is also added to detect laser-based threats, which consists of a broad network of laser-detecting nodes and sensors placed around the aircraft. A third system is the Missile Threat Identification System (MITID), which consists of a series of optical and IR sensors placed strategically on key positions around the aircraft, to allow the aircraft to detect the launch of enemy missiles and even track their locations. Together as a whole, these receivers can also be connected to a datalink, uploading data to dedicated electronic warfare (EW) aircraft to allow them to prosecute and engage the emission sources quickly.

The suite also includes a wide spectrum of active countermeasures systems as well. This includes a powerful radar jamming suite. Consisted of an internal module and two pods located at the wing roots of each wing, the system is directly linked to the RWR of the aircraft, and is able to conduct the jamming of a broad range of radars and communication links, with limited effectiveness against LPI-type radars with its integrated computer suite. An active radar cancellation system is also added, and as it is linked to both the RWR and the MITID system, it is designed to act as a countermeasure against older-generation, radar-guided AAMs and SAMs. These systems are also directly inked to onboard chaff and flare dispensers, thus allowing the aircraft to take evasive countermeasures if needed. Towed decoys can also be carried, though this is not usually practiced due to the formation arragements that the bomber flies in.

Finally, this also includes an unique LADAR jamming suite, codenamed 'Titan'. Based on the older Pulsemaster system, the Titan consists of an aft-mounted turret with a laser system. When a LADAR threat is identified by the LWR system, the turret directs a series of powerful and high-energy laser pulses at the direction of the threat for a short amount of time, thus overwhelming and temporarily blinding enemy LADAR systems. Unlike the previous system, the Titan further extends the usage of the pulse feature to prevent the jammer from acting as a beacon for enemy passive laser-guided systems, while it is linked to a computer system, allowing the engagement of similar "pulse LADAR" systems.

Armaments and Payloads
Offensive
Out of the many different types of systems on the B-108, probably the Thunderhawk's most fearful component is its gigantic payload capacity. Standing at just below 190,000lbs at its max and just over 100,000lb as its standard payload capacity, the B-108 is in every regard a heavy-hitter designed for both strikes against high-value strategic targets, and "mop-up" duties against concentrations of enemy ground forces and parked aircraft. Thus, the B-108 relies on a total of four weapons bays, in addition to nine hardpoints to exercise its function as a heavy bomber aircraft.

Like many other Omzian bombers, the B-108 has a total of three main weapons bays, each of a very large size, housing the Common Munition Interface Launcher (COMIC). The COMIC launcher is a highly-complex, rotary launcher designed to accept a diverse amount of Omzian-made strike munitions, including glide bombs, cluster bombs, and missiles. It can also house foreign-made weapons (of around the 500kg-2000kg class) with some modifications, thouugh often this would require a complete modification of the COMIC launcher itself. Alternatively, the COMIC can be replaced by ground crews (during a days-long process) by a Heavy Rack Delivery launcher (HARD), which is designed to hold ultra-large systems such as the gigantic BLU-200 heavy penetrator.

However, unlike many other Omzian bombers, the bomber also features a smaller weapons bay, termed the Compact Rotary Launcher Bay. Housing a much simplified version of the COMIC rotary launcher, the bay is designed to hold precision strike bombs such as the OMASC PDAS, though it can bne substituted by the "countermeasure bombs" or even Quickstrike mines instead. Thus, though the Common Rotary Launcher Bay is restricted in terms of munitions variety, it gives the bomber a larger punch or a better self-defence capability.

The hardpoints are of a similar nature, with two under each wing glove, and another five under the fuselage. Each is capable of holding a variety of small bombs and missiles of up to the 500-1000kg class, and the wing glove hardpoints are also capable of lugging along additional radar jamming pods (to complement the COWS-XII's radar jammer) and even reconnaissance pods as well, thus turning the B-108 into a capable electronic warfare platform, and an ad-hoc reconnaissance platform as well.

Defensive
Like how the Thunderhawk possesses a large payload and a capable defensive avionics suite, the designers did not overlook the importance of defensive armaments. For the B-108, large missiles fired from enemy aircraft and ground sites is one of the most dangerous threats, thus attention has been paid to not only the defeat of close-in enemy aircraft and large missiles, but also the sensors of these enemy platforms as well.

The centerpiece of the bomber are the modified self-defence turrets from the B-105 and B-106, this time designated the Turreted Self Defence System - Improved (TSDSI), with two turrets on the B-108 (one on tail, and one on chin of aircraft) as opposed of the six originally planned, to increase performance and decrease weight and strain on the airframe its availability of space. Each composed of a large, fully rotatable, stealthy turret, these systems incorporates a group of short-medium range radar and IR sensors, along with an internal 27mm cannon system and a pack of missiles and rockets. The sensors are connected to a central targeting computer, and when a missile, aircraft-based, or even a ground-based (such as AAA guns) threat is detected, the turret would use the rapid-fire 27mmcannon to engage the target accurately and deadly at close ranges. At further ranges, the turret instead utilizes the three-round 'Minisnake' mini-missile launcher. The ultramaneuverible 'Minisnake' missile is a revision of the OMASC 'Air Snake' SRAAM, and is designed to engage aircraft, close-in ground targets, and large AAMs and SAMs at a close range. Alternatively, the turret can utilize a 24-pack rocket launcher, separated to be fired in 3 solves of 8 round each. Each folding-fin rocket - somewhat larger than the standard 2.5" rockets - are designed to engage large enemy missiles at a close range, flying towards these missile's general location before unleashing a deadly batch of small, high-velocity kinetic projectiles, thus shredding the missile's vital components and rendering it ineffective.

The centerpiece of the bomber are the two standard Self-Defence Bays, in which each can hold a small variety of self-defence weaponry such as anti-radication missiles and medium range air-to-air missiles with targeting data fed from outside sources or directly from the bomber's sensors, thus allowing the bomber to defend itself from enemy aircraft or ground air defence sites at a modest range. The bays can also deploy launched and powered decoys to overwhelm and fool enemy air defence systems, while fuel tanks can also occasionally be added to increase range.

Alternatively, these bays can hold a series of different 'countermeasures' bombs, which are modifications of existing lightweight cluster bomb dispensers, designed to fool and even overwhelm enemy sensors and weapon crews. One of the most common variant of these 'bombs' is the Smoke Countermeasure System (SMOC), which dispenses either WP or a cloud of black smoke to temporarily fool enemy AAA gunners, and chasing aircraft at very close ranges. An alternative variant contains a pack of chaff, fooling enemy radar systems temporarily. A third variant is the Fragmentation Effect System (FESS) which refines on tactics used with other historical strike aircraft such as the British Buccaneer, which is a modified 500lb parachute-retarded bomb with a load of fragments and a small charge of explosives, exploding behind a bomber to surprise and distract enemy aircraft chasing at low altitudes.

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Payloads (Max Load/Standard Load):
Main Bomb Bays
-72x/48x 2000lb PDAS (24x/16x each bay)
-72x/48x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (24x/16x each bay)
-144x/90x 1000lb PDAS (48x/30x each bay)
-288x/180x 500lb PDAS (96x/60x each bay)
-576x/360x 250lb SPDAS (192x/120x each bay)
-135x/69x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (45x/23x each bay)
-135x/69x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (45x/23x each bay)
-135x/69x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (45x/23x each bay)
-135x/69x CBU-207/B (45x/23x each bay)
-135x/69x CBU-208/B (45x/23x each bay)
-135x/69x CBU-209/B (45x/23x each bay)
-27x/18x GBU-28 (9x/6x each bay)
-117x/66x AGM-154 JSOW (39x/22x each bay)
-9x/6x Meteor-B (3x/2x each bay)
-42x/24x Roundel AShMs (14x/8x each bay)
-12x/6x Longaxe AShM/ALCMs (4x/2x each bay)
-6x/3x Arquebus ALCMs (2x/1x each bay)
-36x/18x LRALCM-A/B/C ALCMs (12x/6x each bay)
-54x/27x SGAM SRAMs (18x/9x each bay)
-72x/36x JASSM (24x/12x each bay)
-3/2x BLU-200A/C heavy penetrators (1x each bay)

Compact Rotary Launcher Bay
-3x 2000lb PDAS; or
-6x 1000lb PDAS; or
-12x 500lb PDAS; or
-27x 250lb SPDAS; or
-24x "countermeasures" bombs; or
-3x 2000lb Quickstrike mine; or
-6x 1000lb Quickstrike mine; or
-15x 500lb Quickstrike mine

Self-Defence Bay
-6x NALSAR or HARM ARMs (3x each bay)
-8x AIM-120P NLRAAM (4x each bay)
-6x decoy or small reconnaissance drones (3x each bay)
-6x "countermeasures" bombs (3x each bay)

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Specifications
Length: 79.8m
Height: 24.1m
Wingspan: 46m fully swept, 76.5m extended
Propulsion: Six Honjak Electrics HEK-1031A PDE-turbofans rated at 86,000lbs
Empty Weight: 262,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 600,000kg
Crew: Four
Ceiling: >60,000ft
Range: 8000km with max payload, 14,000km with standard load
Speed: Mach 2.53 max, Mach 1.4 supercruise at high atltitude, Mach 1.8 high-altitude dash, Mach 1.25 low level penetration
Payload: 86,000kg (189,600lb) maximum, 48,000kg (105,800lb) standard strike load, 32,000kg (70,547lb) long-range low level strike load, within three bomb bays, one compact rotary launcher bay, two self defence bays, and nine hardpoints (four under wing gloves, five under fuselage). Two self-defence turrets (one chin, one tail)
Unit Cost: $720 million
Export Cost: $750 million (Allies only); $850 million (Cleared customers; reduction in armaments and avionics can apply)

Export Status: Though the B-108 will be manufactured and deployed in great numbers for the Omzian Air Force, sales are largely restricted to allies only. Other customers desiring to purchase this bombers may alternatively submit proposals, though not all will be accepted, and the exported version will only offer reduced armaments and avionics capability.

OOC: Not even one reply of some sorts?

***Transmission from the Republic of Danmarc, Department of Defense***

Greetings from the Republic of Danmarc. Our engineers have studied the schematics of your proposed Strategic Bomber, and have advised us of the great potential this aircraft could have for the Danmarc Airforce. We are interested in a multi-year contract in regards to this aircraft, and have more than the appropriate funding to meet our needs. The Republic is looking to purchase a massive fleet of aircraft, and I understand there are certain restrictions applying. Please take the advanced $10 billion (USD equivalent) as indication of our sincerity. This will more than cover the planning phase of this production, and we would of course like our engineers to meet with your production team to further this transaction. Please respond at your earliest convenience with purchasing requirements.

***Transmission Ended***

looks worthy of a bumpity bump bump to me

To: Republic of Danmarc, Department of Defense
From: OMASC Sales Control Board; Omzian Ministry of National Defence

Though both OMASC and the Omzian Ministry of National Defence are indeed interested in the enthusiasm of Danmarc about the Thunderhawk as a platform, we must regretfully admit that the sale of the bombers are reserved for allies only, namely those in the OMP, UWP, or other allies outside either two of these organizations. Thus, we have no other choice to reject the possibility of directly selling the aircraft to non-allied nations, unit-by-unit.

Nevertheless, there is still a possibility to acquire the aircraft as a non-allied nation. The nation must prove to us that they are indeed trustable, and will show good conduct in the international scene and beyond. Once the Omzian government and military shows confidence in the request, we are open to proposals from the non-allied nation interested, though we normally favor a transfer of military technologies (it doesn't have to be anything big) to us. If the proposal is accepted, we will grant the nation an export of the bomber at the allied nations unit cost, of up to 600 units in total.

Though we hope that many will still show interest, we regret about the fact that the B-108 is not open to export for anyone, as the B-108 is still deemed to be a very valuable asset for the Omzian military and the Omzian nation's national security.

Interesting design. This is comparable to the B-300 we are designing currently for our Air Force. If you would like we can send you specs and maybe compare our aircrafts. But overall a very good aircraft.

President Harsimran Mann
Techncratic Republic of Space Union

Interesting design. This is comparable to the B-300 we are designing currently for our Air Force. If you would like we can send you specs and maybe compare our aircrafts. But overall a very good aircraft.

President Harsimran Mann
Techncratic Republic of Space Union
We wouldl ike to reiterate the fact that the B-108 Thunderhawk is not only the product of decades of bomber development and design by OMASC, but it also designed to give the Omzian Air Force's Strategic Air Command a clear advantage over other, less well equipped, bomber forces as well. Thus, the B-108 incorporates many features that were present in previous Omzian designs, along with many new designs and innovations, while making sure to avoid the design flaws that exists in some other products around the world.

However, we are more than glad to compare the specifications.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
From: Geoffrey Lowell, Director, Air Services Division, Defence Procurement Agency, Ministry of Defence, UKIN
Subject: B-108 Thunderhawk

Honoured OMASC Sales Control Board,

His Isselmerian and Nielander Majesty's Government (HM Government) humbly requests the purchase of fifty B-108 Thunderhawk heavy supersonic strategic bombers for the Royal Isselmere-Nieland Air Force (RINAF). If you are willing to accept our bid, HM Government will immediately transfer $42,500 million to your accounts.

We within the Defence Procurement Agency and in particular the Air Services Division have long watched the superb developments within your highly esteemed enterprise with great interest and we are honoured to witness this latest success.

Long may the OMASC prosper.

Sincerely,

Geoffrey Lowell
Director
Air Services Division
Defence Procurement Agency
Ministry of Defence
UKIN

To: Director Geoffrey Lowell, Air Services Division, Defence Procurement Agency, UKIN
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence
Subject: B-108 Thunderhawk

To our esteemed allies of Isselmere,

We are indeed heartwarmed and glad that the glorious government of His Majesty has chosen us and our product for their armed forces, especially considering the efforts that were put into this product, and the past relations and trades between our two nations. Thus, we are glad to accept the purchase of fifty B-108 Thunderhawk at the allied unit cost of $750 million each, thus producing a total cost of $37.5 (thirty-seven point five) billion USD.

Once our Isselmere counterpart accepts, it is expected that the delivery of an inital batch of 10 aircraft will occur within two months, followed by the delivery of the rest of the ordered aircraft within another 8 months.

Indeed, as we already had a healthy history of trade and trust, we have no other choice but to grant the sale of such bombers to ensure Isselmere's position in the world, and we are indeed gratified by the comments and praises from our allies in Isselmere. We can only hope that as the B-108 will go onto the road of success, the nation of Isselmere will enjoy even more success with the new Thunderhawk platforms that they will possess.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence,
Omzian Democratic Republic
From: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of
Defense.
Subject: Possible procurement of the B-108 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Bomber

Sirs. One of my superiors has noticed your excellent new heavy bomber,
and wished for me to enquire into the possibility of purchase. Therefore, on
behalf of the UNIverseVERSian Air Force, I wish to place an order of one
hundred (100) of these fine craft, to be delivered as soon as possible. In
return for this, we will pay you ninety billion (90,000,000,000) in United
States Dollars, which is five billion (5,000,000,000) above the asking price.
The extra five billion (5,000,000,000) has been wired with this message,
and you can keep this payment whether or not we finally do business.

We hope it is possible for our two nations to come to an agreement over
this matter, and if you wish for an alliance, or mutual trade/defense treaty,
we will be happy to arrange something.

Yours sincerely, James Dieter.

OOC: If you want to discuss an alliance/work out the fine points of the purchase, telegram me for messenger handles. I use MSN and AIM

To: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Department of Defence
To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence
Subject: RE - Possible procurement of the B-108 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Bomber

Though the Omzian Ministry of National Defence still has strong reservations in regards to the sale, and though we must also reiterate that trust and the formation of an alliance is based on previous fosterings of relations, and not solely based upon one single sale itself. Further, the fact that UNIverseVERSE has a rather poor human rights and political freedoms record further poses a serious question, and the general unfamiliarity between our two nations poses yet another hurdle.

However, upon many serious considerations, we will grant the sale of up to 48 modified B-108 variants, termed the B-108UV 'UNIverseVERSian Thunderhawk', which is a modification of the B-108 that has reduced applications of RAM, and is equipped with six of the smaller Honjak Electrics HEK-1033 PDE-turbofans, each providing 79,000lbs of thrust. Further, the 'Oberon' system and the ELPI radar has been replaced with older (though still very capable) versions found on older Omzian bombers, and the COWS-XII system is replaced by the second-generation COWS-IX system, without the active radar cancellation system, nor the LADAR jammer system. In regards to payload, all self-defence turrets has been deleted from the bomber, and the aircraft is limited to about 175,000lbs in total payload. This is at a total cost of $38.5 billion dollars.

We are willing to await for a response, and even though we still have reservations, we still thank the nation of UNIverseVERSE of showing interest.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence
From: Geoffrey Lowell, Director, Air Services Division, Defence Procurement Agency, MoD, UKIN
Subject: B-108 Thunderhawk

Honoured OMASC Sales Control Board,

Thank you for your prompt response and the generous allied powers discount. The Royal Isselmere-Nieland Air Force looks forward to receiving these superb aircraft. The funds shall be wired forthwith.

Once more, thank you for your gracious acceptance of HM Government's request.

Long may OMASC prosper and long live the Omzian Democratic Republic!

Sincerely,

Geoffrey Lowell
Director
Air Services Division
Defence Procurement Agency - MoD
UKIN

Check your TGs :)

Check your TGs :)
OOC: Replied, and there's some serious concerns with the speed and range. On a side note, quite surprised that you've decided to use the metric system for your stats again.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence
From: Sergei Ruslenov, Director of Foreign Defense Procurement, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Purchase



"First off, I have been in close contact with representatives from our Air Force who have had nothing but praise for the B-101D, an Omzian produced design, which has shown its worth in our Air Force, and has now fully replaced our older aircraft in the role. However, we are in need of this type of bomber, to replace our incredibly out-dated B-1Bs and Tu-series bombers, and this is the perfect candidate. Its armament capabilities simply stun us, along with its electronics and sheer capability, and I have been pressured by the Air Force to secure an immediate purchase of two hundred and fifty units [250]. Also, to get active crew transferred and trained in flying this bomber, we would like an additional ten B-108 Thunderhawk designated as training aircraft, and with additional crew survival systems. If not possible, we can modify the aircraft ourselves, if permissable.

We also must wonder, if we can attain a production rights sort of deal [or a limited airframe purchase] for the airframe in the interest of taking the airframe [with its propulsion and base avionics] and converting it into an electronics warfare aircraft to compliment our current force of EC-380Ds which are very large and slow, but effective, and the smaller EC-121 which is, again, slow. Our interest lies in getting a faster aircraft to easily get an electronic warfare asset in-theatre instead of waiting for the lumbering EC-380D task force to hover into the region, with this, we're looking at the aircraft staying toe-to-toe with advancing aerial forces, providing an immediate electronic warfare presence. If the airframe would not work in the role, please advise, and we are open to further OMASC products which could fill this niche.

We wish to thank OMASC for considering our proposal, and if our purchase order of two hundred and sixty [250 + 10 training] is confirmed, our government will immediately transfer the sum to your accounts in either one lump sum or a staggered series of payments. We await the confirmation, and especially the introduction of this advanced aircraft into the ranks of the Soviet Bloc Air Force where it will undoubtedly serve a stunning career."


Thank you,

Sergei Ruslenov
-Director of Foreign Defense Procurement
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc

Omz222:

Okay I made significant changes to the range and speed of the aircraft. Also what would be the best fraction of the weight for the fuel nessessary in the aircraft such as the B-300? Is 0.38 correct for it?

Omz222:

Okay I made significant changes to the range and speed of the aircraft. Also what would be the best fraction of the weight for the fuel nessessary in the aircraft such as the B-300? Is 0.38 correct for it?
OOC: For a decent range, around 0.4 - 0.5, depending on the mission of your bomber (e.g. high altitude supersonic standoff strikes with missiles or low level penetration with transsonic speeds) and the type of the propulsion, which would give you a decent range of at least 10,000km. Replied to tg.

To: Sergei Ruslenov, Director of Foreign Defense Procurement, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Purchase
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence

To our friends and allies in Soviet Bloc,

As the Omzian Ministry of National Defence and OMASC are both heartwarmed and surprised by this astronomical request by Soviet Bloc, past experiences has shown our allies in Soviet Bloc to be more than just being trustable. Thus, we have no other choice but to approve the request, after a series of positive reviews in both the government and OMASC. As we can understand the need to replace obsolete designs such as the B-1B and the Tu-160, we are more than confident that these bombers will suit the needs of Soviet Bloc. The training version is also possible, with the avionics suite somewhat reduced in size, but with a seven-member crew for training purposes.

In regards to the sale of airframes, it is indeed possible to convert the aircraft to electronic warfare platforms. Though the B-108 is already an excellent EW platform in its own regards, and though it is already deployed as an ad-hoc EW platform in some units, we feel that the conversion of the aircraft for a dedicated EW role would be even better. Thus, though domestic production rights can be negotiated (as we don't offer DPRs for individual parts, but rather the aircraft itself), we are willing to sell "bare-bone" airframes at a cost of $450 million USD each.

Thus, the total cost is $195 billion with the 260 bombers and trainers. It is expected that an inital batch of 30 bombers will be delivered within a period of 6 NS months, followed by full rate production with the last unit delivered within 4 years. We are glad that the technologically advanced Soviet Bloc Air Force has turned to us for assistance, in which we will gladly accept.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence,
Omzian Democratic Republic
From: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of
Defense.
Subject: RE: RE -Possible procurement of the B-108 'Thunderhawk' Heavy
Bomber

Sirs. After consultation with my superiors, I am at a liberty to say that,
while this dissapoints our government slightly, we are ready to agree to
this sale, and a further one and a half billion (1,500,000,000) has been
wired. The remaining money will be wired in chunks, with eight billion
(8,000,000,000) being wired after the delivery of every twelve (12)
aircraft.

However, I must stress that this is not viewed with the highest favor by our
government, and approval for this purchase only just came through. The
president wishes to point out that, while we do not have the highest
political freedoms or civil rights, we are not excessively cruel, and should
best be described as a semi-compassionate corporate dictatorship. Bearing
this in mind, we wish to enquire as to whether a slight re-appraisal of your
position could be made, while stressing that this does not have to set a
precedent in your dealing with other states of a dictatorial nature.

As a goodwill offering, we are willing to abolish tariffs on all imports from
Omz222, and we wish to discuss the possibility of a trade agreement being
reached between our nations. If you wish to take part in negotiations for
such a treaty, please adress your messages to my colleague Samuel
Robinson, PermSec, Foreign Trade UnderDept, Dept of Trade and Industry.

Yours Sincerely, James Dieter

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence
From: Sergei Ruslenov, Director of Foreign Defense Procurement, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Re:Purchase



"Thank you for letting us purchase this incredible system. The government has decided to pay the sum of $195 billion USD immediately in two transactions. The aircraft will be immediately integrated into our force structure as we eagerly await the first aircraft.

As for the aircraft airframe, we will purchase fifty of the bare airframes at $450 million USD a piece, the extra transaction will be made immediately after confirmation. We look forward to the aircraft which will transpire from this work."


Thank you,

Sergei Ruslenov
-Director of Foreign Defense ProcurementMinistry of Foreign Affairs of the Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc

Are these the same Thunderhawks from the 40k IoM(space marines specificaly)? If so, I'll purchase some later.

Official Imperial Communique

We are extremely impressed with this excellent aircraft, and would like to place an order for 250 B-108 Thunderhawk bombers. You may name your prefered price.

To: Sergei Ruslenov, Director of Foreign Defense Procurement, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence
Subject: Re: Re: Purchase

As we are glad that we are able to begin the manufacturing of the first units intended for the nation of Soviet Bloc, we are also eager to accept the request for fifty airframes, adding $22.5 billion to the total cost. As usual, we are more than glad to receive the requests from our allies, and we are also enthusiastic about the eventual completion of the contract.

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To: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of Defense
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
Subject: RE RE: RE -Possible procurement of the B-108 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Bomber

Though we can understand the nation's disappointments and apologies for the negative effects resulting from it, the Omzian government's policy when dealing with unfamiliar and dictatorship-like governments is always a cautious one, as in our beliefs the sale of important weapon systems to nation that does not necessarily have a solid relationship with us and/or does not have a positive human rights record would not only possibly prove to be a liability for our national security, but also the security of the international stage as well. Thus, we hope that your government can understand our stance as a nation that seeks to export and import military weapons responsibly.

However, as of the current moment, we are glad that our counterparts at UNIverseVERSE has accepted our proposal, and it is expected that all aircraft will be delivered within a time period of one year. Though we are both surprised and heartwarmed that $1.5 billion USD has been wired as extra, we must decline the offer. However, the last batch of twelve aircraft will be delivered when all of the $38.5 billion dollars has been wired.

In regards to trade policies and agreements, though it is still in our eyes somewhat beneficial for the whole deal and the Omzian government's future outlooks, we are willing to accept the abolishment of tariffs on Omzian goods, and will reply in kind. Trade agreements will indeed be possible, and the Omzian Ministry of Commerce will be working diligently in getting in contact with your esteemed colleague.

Though we sincerely apologize for our refusals, rejections, and reluctance, we are nevertheless delighted to have a chance to export these fine aircraft to the nation of UNIverseVERSE. May our relations go forward to a newer level, and may the nation of UNIverseVERSE prosper.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Purchase of the OMASC B-108 Thunderhawk HSSB

The heads of our air force were most impressed with your B-108 Thunderhawk bomber, and therefore, we would like to purchase twelve (12) of them for $10,200,000,000. We will comply with your background check fully, and believe that you will find us a nation worthy of your trust.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Are these the same Thunderhawks from the 40k IoM(space marines specificaly)? If so, I'll purchase some later.

OOC: No, and I did not base this on anything from a PC game. Such similarity is purely coincidental, and is not intentional.

Official Imperial Communique

We are extremely impressed with this excellent aircraft, and would like to place an order for 250 B-108 Thunderhawk bombers. You may name your prefered price.

To: Doomingsland
From: OMASC Sales Control Board

Though we are glad that our unit has gained even more attention from various nations abroad, and though we share no bitter or negative feelings with Doomingsland ourselves, we nevertheless have some serious concern regarding the feastibility of such sale. As we are aware of Doomingsland's position in the world as a powerful entity, current relations between Doomingsland and our allies such as Sarzonia raises some serious concerns, and is proving to be a huge hurdle, as the sale of such weapon platform to an enemy of our ally would not only damage our relations with other nations, but our own security as well.

Thus, we regrettably announce that we have no other choice to deny the request until relations between Doomingsland and some of our allies from the OMP and UWP improves (such as Sarzonia). Though we are indeed gratified by the praise of the aircraft, we would like to express our sincere apologies for our failure in approving the sale.

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence,
Omzian Democratic Republic
From: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of
Defense.
Subject: RE: RE RE: RE -Possible procurement of the B-108 'Thunderhawk'
Heavy Bomber

Sirs. This is excellent news, and we hope that this will be the first step in
what may be a long and successful partnership between our two nations.
However, we wish to point out that the extra one and a half billion
(1,500,000,000) is necessary to make the total up to the correct amount.

5,000,000,000
1,500,000,000
8,000,000,000
8,000,000,000
8,000,000,000
+8,000,000,000
38,500,000,000

Therefore, we must respecfully insist on the acception this money, as we
would be shortchanging you otherwise.

Yours Sincerely, James Dieter

OOC: Arrange the trade treaty by telegram, or, if it isn't too much clutter, in this thread. Thanks

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Purchase of the OMASC B-108 Thunderhawk HSSB

The heads of our air force were most impressed with your B-108 Thunderhawk bomber, and therefore, we would like to purchase twelve (12) of them for $10,200,000,000. We will comply with your background check fully, and believe that you will find us a nation worthy of your trust.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

To: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
Re: Purchase of the OMASC B-108 Thunderhawk HSSB

Though we still have serious questions regarding how a nation with a population just below 60 million could maintain a sizeable force of these bombers, and as current relationship between Halberdgardia, we must respectfully and regrettably decline the sale of the weapon systems to Halberdgardia for the time being. As our calculations shows that Halberdgardia only has a defence budget numberin to around $20 billion dollars (and possibly more or less), the mere procurement of twelve of such bombers would already cost the nation of Halberdgardia would cost them half of their estimated defence budget. Further, the almost non-existant nature of current relations between our two nations is further complicating even the possibility for the OMASC to consider approving the sale.

Thus, while we are willing to apologize for our rejection, we thank Halberdgardia for their praises and interest.

OOC: As with other customers, the bomber is basically only available to allies of the Omzian Republic, with some exceptions

Official Imperial Response

This is indeed regrettable. However, we have also taken note that you currently possess production rights to the ST-29 main battle tank. As co-designer, it is our right to revoke any such rights, for a full refund, of course. Sales of such systems to an ally of an enemy raises some serious concerns...

To: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
Re: Purchase of the OMASC B-108 Thunderhawk HSSB

Though we still have serious questions regarding how a nation with a population just below 60 million could maintain a sizeable force of these bombers, and as current relationship between Halberdgardia, we must respectfully and regrettably decline the sale of the weapon systems to Halberdgardia for the time being. As our calculations shows that Halberdgardia only has a defence budget numberin to around $20 billion dollars (and possibly more or less), the mere procurement of twelve of such bombers would already cost the nation of Halberdgardia would cost them half of their estimated defence budget. Further, the almost non-existant nature of current relations between our two nations is further complicating even the possibility for the OMASC to consider approving the sale.

Thus, while we are willing to apologize for our rejection, we thank Halberdgardia for their praises and interest.

OOC: As with other customers, the bomber is basically only available to allies of the Omzian Republic, with some exceptions

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Purchase of the OMASC B-108 Thunderhawk HSSB

While we are disappointed to hear that our order has been declined, we understand your reasoning. You would not be the first nation to question our financial standing based on our size and public budgetary figures, and while we assure you that we are capable of maintaining these venerable craft (hence our small order of only twelve units), we will understand if you stand by your decision. If any other arrangements can be made to increase our standing with you and/or procure this fine bomber, then please feel free to let us know.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

To: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of Defense.
From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian Democratic Republic
Subject: RE: RE RE: RE -Possible procurement of the B-108 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Bomber

As we regret our mistakes, we fully acknowledge UNIverseVERSE's care in ensuring that the payments would be made fully, and will accordingly accept the payments.

Official Imperial Response

This is indeed regrettable. However, we have also taken note that you currently possess production rights to the ST-29 main battle tank. As co-designer, it is our right to revoke any such rights, for a full refund, of course. Sales of such systems to an ally of an enemy raises some serious concerns...
OOC: I'll get a reply to this sometimes later, as ICly we have some things to arrange with the other parties that may have their security compromised with the sale of the B-108.

[QUOTE=Omz222]OOC: No, and I did not base this on anything from a PC game. Such similarity is purely coincidental, and is not intentional.

Actually, I was refering to the table-top game which Dawn of War was based upon. The Space Marines used their Thunderhawks as a dropship and as troop suport (not often seen in the games as it is they cost ~$700 to purchase a modle!). Eitherway, whether they were from 40k or from your own mind, well made. I would purchase as many as I can with the available budget of 4.1 trillion credits (and, I'm willing to pay through funds with money with my Star Forge store fronts for even more bombers.)

OOC: I'll get a reply to this sometimes later, as ICly we have some things to arrange with the other parties that may have their security compromised with the sale of the B-108.
OOC:Sure thing.

To: Doomingsland

As we are aware of both the disappointment felt by Doomingsland and as we express our regret, the dilemma poses further problems as the ST-29A1 variant is a cruical element of the Omzian Army armoured forces, as a total of about 7000 of such tanks are in service in about 20 Omzian Army armoured divisions. Though options including the voluntary revoking of the ST-29A1 production rights is considered along with the possible withdrawal of all ST-29A1 units from service, we are working diligently to ensure that no side is left at a serious disadvantage, and will ready a solution in the future.

We are also willing to continue to enforce our policy of neutrality towards Doomingsland despite the relations between Doomingsland and Sarzonia and others, as the Omzian Republic itself shares no bitter feelings against Doomingsland and would be even interested in the possibility of improving relations between Doomingsland and Omz in the future.

To: Doomingsland

As we are aware of both the disappointment felt by Doomingsland and as we express our regret, the dilemma poses further problems as the ST-29A1 variant is a cruical element of the Omzian Army armoured forces, as a total of about 7000 of such tanks are in service in about 20 Omzian Army armoured divisions. Though options including the voluntary revoking of the ST-29A1 production rights is considered along with the possible withdrawal of all ST-29A1 units from service, we are working diligently to ensure that no side is left at a serious disadvantage, and will ready a solution in the future.

We are also willing to continue to enforce our policy of neutrality towards Doomingsland despite the relations between Doomingsland and Sarzonia and others, as the Omzian Republic itself shares no bitter feelings against Doomingsland and would be even interested in the possibility of improving relations between Doomingsland and Omz in the future.
Official Imperial Response

This is most excellent news, indeed. We would be more than pleased to establish relations with your great nation, and would like to explore the possibility of an embassy exchange.

Official Imperial Response

This is most excellent news, indeed. We would be more than pleased to establish relations with your great nation, and would like to explore the possibility of an embassy exchange.
As we are still continuing to explore various possibilities (including the procurement of similar, non-Doomingsland designs), in the meanwhile we are positive in regards to the possibilities of establishing formal relations with Doomingsland. Though we feel that an embassy exchange is a possibility, we are offering the establishment of a direct cable connection between Doomingsland and Omzian diplomatic offices, in addition to the establishment of Diplomatic Representive Offices in Doomingsland.

Official Imperial Response

We would approve of such a connection between our various diplomatic offices, and the establishment of a Diplomatic Representative Office would be more than welcome.

After much consideration, though the Omzian military and government still adopts a neutral policy to Doomingsland and looks forward to setting up basic diplomatic relations, we feel that the importance of keeping our committments to our allies outweights the importance of gaining money and enjoying some of the most fearful technologies in NS. Thus, upon a series of further reviews, the Omzian Ministry of National Defence and OMASC respectfully rejects the proposal set forth by Doomingsland in regards to the sale of 250 B-108 bombers, as we do not wish to betray our allies and the alliances that we are committing ourselves to. We apologize for any negative effect that this may cause to Doomingsland or anyone else.

As a result, we are voluntarily giving up the domestic production license for the ST-29A1 tank, which was jointly designed by Soviet Bloc and Doomingsland. While we feel that sacrifices should be made to keep our committments to our allies, we also have no problem with Doomingsland's stance on the domestic production license for the ST-29A1 that we currently possess. Thus, all facilities geared towards the manufacturing of the ST-29A1 will discountinue their operations, as all ST-29A1 units will be gradually pulled out of the Omzian Army units, to be retired and eventually disassembled and 'gutted' in Omzian Army's Restoration and Renovation Facilities.

However, this does not prove to be a huge liability for the Omzian Army, as through further dealings with Soviet Bloc we are able to acquire a newer, Soviet Bloc armoured fighting platform to fill the position previously occupied by the co-designed ST-29A1.

As we apologizes for the rejection and shows our regret, we also hope that this does not interfere with current efforts in building up basic diplomatic relations with Doomingsland, as we also wish that both sides can understand the situation at hand, and our unwillingness to betray and insult our own allies - though at a cost.

Signed,
Jon Berker,
OMASC Board of Executives

FltAdm (Ret.) Jonares Logan,
Minister of National Defence
Omzian Democratic Republic

Foreign Affairs Ministry,
Omzian Democratic Republic

OOC: ...and the ST-29A1 shall retire. Changes can be observed in my Army Order of Battle thread.

Omzian Air Force Times
The People and the Armed Forces are One
B-108 Successfully Demostrates Moving Target Attack Capability

KANZE (OAFT) - During a press conference hosted by OMASC's Strategic Aircraft Division in Kanze, the Omzian Air Force and OMASC has announced a series of recent successes with the B-108 in tests. In one of these tests on the Daymene Proving Grounds, the B-108 has successfully proved its movable target attack capability, by attacking an unmanned convoy of 'enemy' tanks and trucks moving at a speed of 40kph on a highway. Utilizing the tri-mode guided SPDAS 250lb small diameter bomb, a flight of two B-108s released over 260 of these bombs from the COMIC rotary launchers, at an altitude of over 10,000ft. Gliding over 10km, a continuous stream of GPS data were fed into these bombs as the IDEAS systems onboard the aircraft designated the 'enemy' tanks and trucks, successfully achieving a 97% kill on the convoy.

Another test involved an attack of a large-displacement ship just off the short of Hongazgrad, where a flight of six B-108s conducted a coordinated attack against the moving hulk of the 580,000 ton oil tanker Elinia simulating a warship, at an altitude of 'over 50,000ft'. Utilizing the BLU-200C penetrator, these bombers conducted a coordinated attack with targeting data from both external systems an their 'Oberon' fire control system, launching a total of twelve of these powered penetrators towards the tanker. Gliding over 60km, a continuous stream of GPS coordinates were fed before the penetrators activated their own guidance. 11 of the 12 penetrators hit the tanker, causing massive structural damages to the hull and a large fire with the contents of the penetrator, achieving a 'mission kill' on the tanker.

With these successes, the Omzian Air Force is optimistic about the future of the B-108, and further testings will continue.

Omzian Air Force Times
[b]The People and the Armed Forces are One[/b
B-108 Successfully Demostrates Moving Target Attack Capability

KANZE (OAFT) - During a press conference hosted by OMASC's Strategic Aircraft Division in Kanze, the Omzian Air Force and OMASC has announced a series of recent successes with the B-108 in tests. In one of these tests on the Daymene Proving Grounds, the B-108 has successfully proved its movable target attack capability, by attacking an unmanned convoy of 'enemy' tanks and trucks moving at a speed of 40kph on a highway. Utilizing the tri-mode guided SPDAS 250lb small diameter bomb, a flight of two B-108s released over 260 of these bombs from the COMIC rotary launchers, at an altitude of over 10,000ft. Gliding over 10km, a continuous stream of GPS data were fed into these bombs as the IDEAS systems onboard the aircraft designated the 'enemy' tanks and convoys, successfully achieving a 90% kill on the convoy.

Another test involved an attack of a large-displacement ship just off the short of Hongazgrad, where a flight of six B-108s conducted a coordinated attack against the moving hulk of the 580,000 ton oil tanker Elinia simulating a warship, at an altitude of 'over 50,000ft'. Utilizing the BLU-200C penetrator, these bombers conducted a coordinated attack with targeting data from both external systems an their 'Oberon' fire control system, launching a total of twelve of these powered penetrators towards the tanker. Gliding over 60km, a continuous stream of GPS coordinates were fed before the penetrators activated their own guidance. 11 of the 12 penetrators hit the tanker, causing massive structural damages to the hull and a large fire with the contents of the penetrator, achieving a 'mission kill' on the tanker.

With these successes, the Omzian Air Force is optimistic about the future of the B-108, and further testings will continue.

Impressive! Very impressive! Good job. :)

OOC: Check TGs. I think I'm going to put the B-300 up today.

OOC: No, and I did not base this on anything from a PC game. Such similarity is purely coincidental, and is not intentional.


Actually, the Thunderhawks I was refering to was the table-top game Warhammer 40k, which is what the PC game Dawn of War was based upon.

Either way, I still would like to purchase 1,000 of these bombers (Defense Budget is 4.2 trillion + funds from the Star Forge Store Fronts.)

Actually, the Thunderhawks I was refering to was the table-top game Warhammer 40k, which is what the PC game Dawn of War was based upon.

Either way, I still would like to purchase 1,000 of these bombers (Defense Budget is 4.2 trillion + funds from the Star Forge Store Fronts.)
OOC: With the matters aside, 1000 is still too excessive in terms of export (as I'm only ahving 1000 of these entering my Air Force's service myself), especially for a nation that barely has any diplomatic relationships with us. Keep in mind that the sale of the bomber is only open to allies + close friends and nations that has developed ties with the Omzian Republic, and any sale of such platform in great numbers to someone (that does not have an established diplomatic relationship) requires serious considerations on the part of the Omzians. Our apologies, though the fact is there that OMASC don't sell their products (at least, newer products) to just anyone.

Understood. no hard feelings.

Understood. no hard feelings.
OOC: However, future diplomatic relations may certainly be a possibility, and I intend to operate the bomber well into August and later this year RL.

The Republic of Danmarc has shown great displeasure in the poor business dealings of this seller, see a copy below of the transmission sent to that nation.

*Transmission from the assistant working for the office of the administrative aid to the secretary of the Danmarc Department of Defense*

While it is regrettable your nation has chosen to offer better grade military hardware, and then countered our purchase request with offers for lower grade merchandise, there has been no misunderstanding made on the part of my superiors. The Republic has a network of trading partners with comparable (possibly superior) military hardware, and in an attempt to reach out to other capitalistic, free market nations Danmarc has offered a purchase plan with your nation, and has been insulted in return. This matter has been referred to New Tiamat officials in regards to your unacceptable marketing strategies, which convene periodically to discuss regional and global trading preferences.
While it is only in this assistant's personal opinion, as my superiors felt a response to your insult unneeded, Danmarc officials are justified in declining your offer of jumping through hoops in order to possibly earning the right to purchasing a lower grade military hardware than originally requested. If your nation were in a position to be opening its doors to potential trading partners and possibly future allies this is not a way to approach them. My suggestion is for an immediate change in this ridiculous approach to marketing your military hardware, as nations of substance should clearly think twice before even considering purchasing your goods. This makes one understand the need to surround your nation with allies, as surely your poor salesmanship is a reflection of how Omz222 must deal in regional and global politics; very poorly.

*End of Transmission*

This thread being monitored by New Tiamat inteligence officials.

To: Danmarc Department of Defense

It is indeed interesting that the nation of Danmarc and their incompetent leaders has finally shown their sheer ignorance and arrogance, as not only are /they/ outright rejecting our apology and offer, but are also sidetracking from the fact that the Danmarc government has misunderstood, to accuse us of selling 'lower grade merchandise'. As a nation that does not have even the slightest of diplomatic relations with Omzian nation, the government of Danmarc must understand that a heavy strategic bomber in itself is a very fearsome and sensitive weapon system; thus, as a responsible arms contractor, we have no choice but to ensure that the bombers sold to non-allied or non-friendly nations must be made in a way so that they do not pose a problem for our allies and ourselves. Not doing so would be only betraying our own people and our allies, at the cost of being unable to please an arrogant customer who are over-sensitive about the tides of business.

Our personnel and military leaders can only laugh at the labelling of OMASC's business methods as 'ridiculous', as such practice has been practiced by many other /responsible/ arms contractors, who has taken further measures to ensure that the export variants of their products do not pose much of a risk to their own allies and their own people. Thus, it is in no way ridiculous, even though it might be under the half-blind eyes of the childish 'leaers' of Danmarc. Further, by labeling our generous offers to a nation that //does not even have diplomatic relations with the Omzian Republic// 'an insult', it is even more of an insult to OMASC, the Omzian government, the Omzian military, and the Omzian people.

In fact, not only has OMASC and the Omzian government conducted many deals successfully with many other respected nations around the world, OMASC's experiences and the length of its existance far outweighs the amaeturish nature of the government of Danmarc.

Before the Danmarc government continues to throw a series of meaningless and amusing accusations and insults, perhaps they could review their own mistakes and mishaps.

Further, by taking aggressive measures such as deliberately conducting espionage of Omzian business practices, which are far /more/ logical than Danmarc so claims, it only further extends current tensions between our two nations. If Danmarc insists to continue this measure, it would be treated as a direct attack against our economy and thus our people.

Signed,
Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Hagras Turner,
Office of His Presidental Excellency,
Omzian Ministry of National Defence,
Omzian Democratic Republic

Thank God we have decided against transactions with this nation, its no wonder other nations would choose not to. Danmarc should have trusted the international inteligence reports, which give Omz222 negative ratings. What a fraud...

To: Republic of Danmarc
From: President Mike Sarzo
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Subject: B-108 bomber

The Incorporated States of Sarzonia views your government's responses to our Omzian allies as a character assassination and a misrepresentation of the facts as they pertain to your ministry of defence's attempts at procuring this bomber. We view your government's actions with the utmost prejudice and we strongly advise you to stand down from your blatant attempts at insulting the Omzian nation.

We also would like to note that your reprehensible behaviour toward the Omzian republic could very well have a desultory effect on your ability to acquire new military technology, not just from Omzian military suppliers, but also from companies operated by allies of the Omzian Republic.

Thank God we have decided against transactions with this nation, its no wonder other nations would choose not to. Danmarc should have trusted the international inteligence reports, which give Omz222 negative ratings. What a fraud...
The Omzian delegates can only find the children in the Danmarc government to be greatly incompetent at handling even basic affairs, as we determine their so-called 'accusations' to be a laughable murmor of a gang of illiterate and uneducated beasts who dares to call themselves 'the government of Danmarc'. We control our exports based on the nation's financial standings, their reputation on the global stage, and their diplomatic relations with the Omzian Republic, and not based on anything else.

We suggest that the nation of Danmarc cease to make such remarks; otherwise, it will be taken as a direct threat and attack against the Omzian people, and will be dealt accordingly.

The Utopia is interested in purchasing 24 of this Bomber, and are willing to transfer the funds upon your purchase confirmation.

24 X $850 Million = $20,400,000,000 USD equivalent.

p.s. What does it to take to become allied with this nation?

OMASC Considers Two New Variants of the B-108A

KANZE (Tonobran News) - Though the launch of the B-108 has seen considerable success, a series of questions were nevertheless raised by the Omzian government in regards to the future out look of the B-108. Though the B-108 is a very capable platform in its very own regards, it is also believed that competition would instead grant OMASC a even higher place on the international stage, thus two variant proposals has been made.

The first variant is an export variant, specifically designed for export to other trusted nations around the world. This new variant, dubbed the 'B-108E', would include brand new and efficent propulsion systems and a modified airframe design, along with brand new and more compact avionics suites, different and smaller than the existing systems of the B-108. In additions, the weapons payload will also be made more 'flexible' and 'versatile' for a variety of missions in the armed forces of different nations. This variant will be offered for sale to 'non-allied' nations of good standing that are accepted by the Omzian government.

The second variant is a more advanced 'Regional' variant, which is a modification of the existing B-108A. Designated the B-108R, it is believed that this variant will feature a higher payload and endurance, at the cost of range of speed. However, the B-108R would also expand on some of the B-108A's capabilities, allowing a greater amount of task to be accomplished in region-wide missions.

While the B-108 and OMASC continues to enjoy success, it is believed that both variants will be implemented over an extended period of time.

Thank God we have decided against transactions with this nation, its no wonder other nations would choose not to. Danmarc should have trusted the international inteligence reports, which give Omz222 negative ratings. What a fraud...
To: Republic of Danmarc
From: Sir George Fredericks, Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
Subject: Accusations re: ODR

To Whom It May Concern:

The nation of Danmarc is hereby placed on the list of nations currently embargoed by His Majesty's Government.

Further accusations by the nation of Danmarc will be responded to with appropriate measures.

That is all.

The Rt Hon Sir George Fredericks
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
UKIN

The Utopia is interested in purchasing 24 of this Bomber, and are willing to transfer the funds upon your purchase confirmation.

24 X $850 Million = $20,400,000,000 USD equivalent.

p.s. What does it to take to become allied with this nation?
Though we are indeed pleased by Rolen's enthusiasm and interest in the bomber, regrettably after a series of research done, we believe that at a total cost of $20.4 billion, the order will greatly exceed the total budget of the entire government of Rolen. Thus, we would advise Rolen to further develop their economy and wait for the export variant, which will better serve nations with smaller economies.

Allow us to express our regrets.

OOC: I've planned this, and it's time to put this thread below the significance of others. Though the IC arguments and matters regarding the Danmarc conflict could take a turn outside of the thread, orders made in this thread will still be looked over. Thanks for the interest, but however all further requests should be made in the official OMASC thread linked in my sig 'Omzian Aircraft and Missiles'.

For Immediate Release

Sarzonian companies place Danmarc on 'black list'

Sarzonian military companies, led by the Portland Iron Works shipyards have announced that the nation of Danmarc has been placed on their respective blacklists effective with the opening of business tomorrow morning.

"The Portland Iron Works undertakes this course of action as a result of the reprehensible conduct by the Republic of Danmarc," Rear Admiral Barbara Tucker (ISN-Ret.), the managing director of the Portland Iron Works said in a statement. "We believe the nation of Danmarc shows an appalling lack of regard for the sovereign right of Omzian companies to determine their own selling policies and must be reminded that their actions shall not go unpunished."

The company took action after a series of accusations by Danmarc surrounding what they claimed was OMASC's refusal to sell the B-108 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Supersonic Strategic Bombar to Danmarc. Shortly after the Portland Iron Works announced its decision to decline sales from Danmarc, the Avalon Aerospace Corporation and Incorporated Ordnance Company followed suit.

"We hope that our refusing future sales to Danmarc sends their government a message that their churlish actions have dire economic consequences," Major General Stephen C. Wilcox (ISAF-Ret.), the managing director of the Avalon Aerospace Corporation said.

"We're not that worried about the loss of a potential customer," IOC managing director Major General David Wade (ISA-Ret.) said. "Frankly, if that government is going to behave like a spoiled child who doesn't get the toy he wanted for Christmas, we don't want them as customers."

OMASC Considers Two New Variants of the B-108A

KANZE (Tonobran News) - Though the launch of the B-108 has seen considerable success, a series of questions were nevertheless raised by the Omzian government in regards to the future out look of the B-108. Though the B-108 is a very capable platform in its very own regards, it is also believed that competition would instead grant OMASC a even higher place on the international stage, thus two variant proposals has been made.

The first variant is an export variant, specifically designed for export to other trusted nations around the world. This new variant, dubbed the 'B-108E', would include brand new and efficent propulsion systems and a modified airframe design, along with brand new and more compact avionics suites, different and smaller than the existing systems of the B-108. In additions, the weapons payload will also be made more 'flexible' and 'versatile' for a variety of missions in the armed forces of different nations. This variant will be offered for sale to 'non-allied' nations of good standing that are accepted by the Omzian government.

The second variant is a more advanced 'Regional' variant, which is a modification of the existing B-108A. Designated the B-108R, it is believed that this variant will feature a higher payload and endurance, at the cost of range of speed. However, the B-108R would also expand on some of the B-108A's capabilities, allowing a greater amount of task to be accomplished in region-wide missions.

While the B-108 and OMASC continues to enjoy success, it is believed that both variants will be implemented over an extended period of time.

Interesting. I'm planning to also put a 3 more variants for the B-300 out. We at Space Union hope these variants will bring Omz222 great properity along with their great aircraft.

Also I hearby am cancelling the purchise made by Danmarc. He has made an order for 300 B-300s but I will follow suit with other countries. We hope he doesn't bother you anymore.

So how does one get to be allies with OMZ-222? The Green Plague wants in on this discount, although our country is relatively new and obviously cannot afford anything too hi-tech... Any ideas?

The Emperor

We have no other choice but to greatly thank our friends and allies that are willing to assist us to further take action against Danmarc, though we also regret about the fact that such actions may affect their profits, thus we owe both for their actions. However, having our reputation on the verge of being put on the line, we will work further to handle the group of miniature pests and ants that somehow miraculously formed the government of Danmarc, who are not only incapable of handling world affairs, but frequently shows their ignorance in the subject of trade.

Signed,
OMASC Board of Representives

To: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence,
Omzian
From: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of
Defense.
Subject: Possible procurement of the B-108E 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Bomber

Sirs. While we appreciate your sale to us of the B-108UV 'Thunderhawk', we
have noticed the new B-108E and wish to make a purchase of a quantity of
these as well. As this will possibly become one of our Air Force's most
major bombers, we wish to enquire about the purchase of limited domestic
production rights, for 1000 units. This would ease the burden on your
production lines, and at the same time bring in the cashflow due to you for
our order. If this is acceptable, we would also be honored to produce any
other B-108Es you need. Thank you.

From: OMASC Sales Control Board, Omzian Ministry of Defence, Omzian
To: James Dieter, UnderSec, Bomber Procurement, Air Force, Dept of Defense.
Subject: Possible procurement of the B-108E 'Thunderhawk' Heavy Bomber

Greetings to our Honourable Counterparts,
As we are both surprised and excited to see that our new trading partners in UNIverseVERSE is still keeping their devout interest in our bomber, unfortunately due to the rather dim relations between our two nations, a production license is still a distinct possibility - unless of course, UNIverseVERSE can arrange a special technology transfer, offering us something that our military shows much interest in.
Similarily, the B-108E is still in the works, though we do appreciate UNIverseVERSE's interest, and we also would like to thank our counterparts for their willingness to ease up our production lines.
As a result, after much review, we have decided to offer UNIverseVERSE an alternative of purchasing about 350 B-108UV variants, at the cost of $780 million per unit (thus, $273 billion total minus a 5% discount resulting in $259.35 billion dollars), given the high requirements by the UNIverseVERSE military and the buildup of relations.

We are eagerly awaiting for an reply.

Signed,
OMASC Sales Control Board.

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OOC Notess:

Well, the B-108E still isn't out yet, though it will be in many ways similar to the B-108UV. Even so, I don't ever intend to sell it in large quantities to anyone other than the nations we know, due to national security concerns and the general problems with selling advanced weapon systems to everyone. With production rights for anyone beyond close allies and trading partners, unless you have something that can really astonish us, unfortunately the chance is still low and dim, regardless of how much money is offered, and regardless of the production limit. Normally this will happen as a part of a pre-planned technology exchange.

However, my government will consider a contract of B-108UVs of around 350 to the maximum. As well, you could also request a "lease to own" contract besides that, where you'll pay a fixed sum of about $500-650 million for 'leasing' each B-108UV forever, though we still fully reserve the right to get them back into our hands (with partial refunds) if things go wrong. This will give you another ~100 bombers.
With the B-108E (when it's out), it will be a similar nature, as the B-108UV itself is essentially a B-108 downsized and made more compact (doesn't mean 'inferior', as with systems being made compact does not automatically mean that they are bad) designed for export to your nation. We'll be able to export them to more nations that may not be an ally or close friend/trading partner of us, provided that background checks are done.
Established diplomatic relations are always a major plus, so as trade agreements and other arrangments. Further, previous experiences will also be taken in mind ;)

My sincere apologies, though I'm sure that you'll understand that with the dynamic nature of NS it wouldn't be a great sight if I have my own products bombing my own city, or my ally's towns and farms (definately not accusing you of that, but it's that others will demand exports of the bomber to their nations too). Hopefully the B-108 will still be in service (with myself and some of my allies at least), and future variants of both the B-108 and some of my other bombers (the B-101D, B-105, and B-106) are possible.

Feel free to browse around my catalogue linked to the 'Omzian Aircraft and Missile' in my sig however, and please try to keep future arrangments there. Thanks.

OOC: Okay, I've taken my reply over there.