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Kordo Shipyards Looks for Help (Semi-IC)

Kordo
27-05-2005, 23:15
Though Kordo stands at a crossroads politically, Kordo Shipyards plans to continue to do business no matter the political climate of Kordo. Realizing that continuing success requires new markets and new customers, Kordo Shipyards has begun a massive overhaul of the way it does business. To further this goal, Kordo Shipyards has turned its eyes to the outside, looking for new designs and new designers who wish to improve already existing ships as well as new markets. Kordo Shipyards is willing to offer lucrative contracts, discounts and partnerships to those who assist. If you wish to make a suggestion or offer a design, please contact the Kordo Shipyards home office or the branch in your nation. Thank you for your time.

Homer R. Matheson
CEO of Kordo Shipyards



ooc: I’m looking for help redesigning my store of custom built ships and I am looking for help. Any ooc/ic help would be very much appreciated. Nothing is for sale as of yet. Thank you for your help.



Battleships

Lotam Class Command Battleship Price: $31 Billion
A combination battleship/carrier/command ship all rolled into one trimaran hull.

Power Plant:
(8) Nuclear Reactors

Dimensions:
Length: ?
Beam: ?
Draft: ?
Displacement: 350,000 tons

Speed: 30 knots (cruise) 34 knots (max)

Range: Limited only by state of nuclear fuel and other supplies.

Armour: Titanium/Steel Composites. Main side belt: 1000mm; deck armor: 900mm; main turret faceplates 1000mm; main turret sides 1000mm; secondary turrets 1000mm; superstructure 900mm; bulkheads 900mm

Sensors
Aegis and ARENA system
AN/ARS-24 Air-Search Radar
AN/SPY-1D 3-D Radar
AN/SPS-67(V)3 Surface Radar
AN/SQS-53C(V) Sonar
AN/SQR-44W Side Scan Sonar

Communications:
Ultra High Frequency (UHF)
CUDIXS (Common User Digital Information Exchange Subsystem) Shipboard messaging
TADIXS A (Tactical Data Information Exchange Subsystem)
TRE/TRAP (Tactical Receive Equipment) circuits for receiving tactical electronic intelligence information
TACINTEL (Tactical Intelligence) Secret Messaging
OTCIXS (Officer in Tactical Command Information Exchange Subsystem) Provides a common tactical picture of the battlefield.
LINK-11 Real time tactical radar picture.

Super High Frequency (SHF) connectivity routed via TIMPLEX and ATM modems supporting:
SIPRNET (Secret Internet Protocol Router Network) Medium from exchange of classified multimedia information
NIPRNET (Non-secure Internet Protocol Router Network) Shipboard internet access TESS (theater environmental support system) weather
JDISS (Joint Deployable Intelligence Support System)
GCCS (Global Command and Control System) National Command Authority is able to communicate with any vertical launch capable ship
PCMT (Personal Computer Message Traffic) Navy-wide Shipboard messages
POTS (Plain Old Telephone) Conventional Telephone while at sea
MMT (Multi-Media Telephone) Secure digital telephone
VIXS (Video Information Exchange System) Video Teleconferencing while at sea
CTAPS (Contingency Theater Automated Planning System) Generation / Dissemination of Air Tasking Order for air strike missions
JWICS (Joint World Wide Intelligence Comm System) Able to communicate with U.S. military intelligence centers around the world

Extremely High Frequency (EHF)
Voice Command Nets - Established as required by exercises
Mission Display Unit (MDU) - A strike planning aid for Tomahawk Missile launches

Armament
(24) 18 inch cannons in triple turrets
(20) 30mm Vulcan CIWS Phalanx guns
(25) MK 87 Vertical Launching Systems (14 Cells each) (Tomahawks)
(6) Harthingy Anti-ship Missile Quad Turrets (24 missiles total)
(6) SM-2 IV A Quad launchers
(14) Evolved Sea Sparrow missiles.
(4) 30mm Manually targeted Metal Storm machine guns
(4) MK 32 Triple Torpedo Tubes (12 MK 50/46 Torpedoes)
(8) Mounted depth charge launchers


Aircraft
(24) F-35's or other similar aircraft
(5) Helicopters (Heavy)
OR
(24) F-35's or other similar aircraft
(8) Helicopters (Light)



King David Class Battleship Price: $4 Billion

Power Plant:
(2) Nuclear Reactors

Speed: 30 knots (cruise) 35 knots (max)

Dimensions:
Length: 930 ft
Beam: 120 ft
Draft: 56 ft

Armour: Titanium/Steel Composite. Main side belt: 1000mm; deck armor: 900mm; main turret faceplates 1000mm; main turret sides 1000mm; secondary turrets 1000mm; superstructure 900mm; bulkheads 900mm

Sensors
Aegis and ARENA system
AN/ARS-24 Air-Search Radar
AN/SPY-1D 3-D Radar
AN/SPS-67(V)3 Surface Radar
AN/SQS-53C(V) Sonar
AN/SQR-44W Side Scan Sonar

Armament
(12) 18 inch cannons in triple turrets
(6) 24 inch cannons in triple turrets
(18) 30mm Vulcan CIWS Phalanx guns
(30) MK 87 Vertical Launching Systems (14 Cells each) (Tomahawks)
(6) SM-2 IV A Quad launchers
(24) Evolved Sea Sparrow missiles in Quad Turrets
(6) 30mm manually targeted Metal Storm machine guns
(6) MK 32 Triple Torpedo Tubes (18 MK 50/46 Torpedoes)
(6) Mounted depth charge launchers


Aircraft
(3) Helicopters (Heavy)
OR
(6) Helicopters (Light)



Iowa Class class Battleship (Modified) Price: $2.5 Billion
Designed to replace the aging and increasingly archaic Iowa Class, this modified version is essential to any modern fleet. With extensive protection from aircraft this ship will continue to remain valuable to any fleet for a long time to come.


Power Plant:
(1) Nuclear Reactors
(4) Emergency Diesel Engines
Four shafts, Four propellers, with five blades each

Speed: 33+ knots

Dimensions
Length: 915 feet
Beam:109 feet
Draft: 30 feet
Displacement: 63,000 tons

Weapons
(20) Harthingy Anti-ship missiles in Quad Armored Box Launcher
(32) Tomahawk cruise missiles
(50) SM2 SAMs
(16) PAC-3 SAMs
(12) Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles
(9) 16 inch cannons in 3 tripple turrets
(8) 5 inch cannons in 4 dual turrets
(2) Triple Torpedo Tubes (MK 50/46 Torpedoes)
(2) Side mounted depth charge
(6) 30mm Vulcan CIWS
(2) Crew served .50 cal machine guns

Aircraft
(4) Helicopters

Sensors
AN/SPY-1D 3-D Radar
AN/SPS-67(V)3 Radar
AN/SPS-64(V)9 Radar
AN/SQS-53C(V) Sonar
AN/SQQ-28(V) LAMPS III
Mk37 Gun Fire Control
Mk38 Gun Direction
Mk40 Gun Director
SPQ-9 [BB-61]



Carriers


Jack Kordo I Class Carrier Price: $5.2 Billion

http://www.osp.ru/cw/2000/31/018_1_1.jpg

Power Plant:
1 Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor)
4 Emergency Diesel Engines
Four shafts, Four propellers, with five blades each.

Dimensions:
Length, overall: 1,292 feet
Flight Deck Width: 300 feet
Beam: 164 feet
Displacement: Approx. 99,000 tons full load

Speed: 30 knots

Aircraft:
108 (9 Squadrons)
12 Helicopters

Aircraft elevators: Four

Catapults: Four

Armament
(4) Mk 29 Eight-cell launchers (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles)
(6) Phalanx CIWS 20mm mounts
(10) Cell VLS for SM-2 IV A

Combat Systems
SPS-48E 3-D air search radar
SPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar
3 Mk91 Fire Control
AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deception
AN/WLR-1H ESM

Crew:
Ship's Company: 3,100
Air Wing: 2,580




Swift Class Pocket Carrier Price: $3.2 Billion

http://frenchnavy.free.fr/ships/aircraft-carrier/charles-de-gaulle/images/cdg-001.jpg

Power Plant
1 Nuclear Power Plants;
Two propellers with 4 blades each

Speed: 27 knots

Dimensions
Length, overall: 262 meters
Flight Deck Width: 65 meters
Beam: 31.5 m

Aircraft: 36 (3 Squadrons)

Aircraft Elevators: 2

Catapults: 2

Armament
(2) Mk 29 Eight-cell launchers (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles)
(4) Phalanx CIWS 20mm mounts
(8) Cell VLS for SM-2 IV A

Combat Systems
SPS-48E 3-D air search radar
SPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar
3 Mk91 Fire Control
AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deception
AN/WLR-1H ESM

Crew:
1,950 (Air Wing and Ship's Company



Destroyers


Hawk Class Guided Missile Destroyer Price: $1 Billion
The composition of the fleet is changing rapidly as modern Hawk Class guided missile AEGIS destroyers enter active commissioned service. The Navy considers the newest Hawk-class destroyer to be its most capable and survivable surface combatant. The Hawk was one of the first Kordoan designed ship designed to incorporate shaping techniques to reduce radar cross-section to reduce their detectability and likelihood of being targeted by enemy weapons and sensors. Originally designed to defend against aircraft, cruise missiles, and nuclear attack submarines, this higher capability ship is to be used in high-threat areas to conduct antiair, antisubmarine, antisurface, and strike operations.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ddg-53-johnpauljones2.jpg

Power Plant
4 - LM2500 GE Marine Gas Turbines (100,000 shp)
3 Allison 2500 KW Gas Turbine Generators
2 Shafts with CRP (Controllable Reversible Pitch) Propellers
2 Rudders

Speed: 30+ knots

Dimensions:
Length: 510 Feet
Width: 67 Feet
Draft: 21 Feet

Armament:
(8) Harthingy/Tomahawk Anti-shipping Missile Canisters
(2) MK 41 Vertical Launching Systems (96 Cells) [SM-2 and Tomahawk ASM/LAM]
(2) Phalanx Gun CIWS
(2) MK 45 MOD 1 5"/54 caliber Gun Mount (lightweight gun)
(2) MK 32 MOD 14 Triple Torpedo Tubes (six MK 50/46 Torpedoes)


Sensors:
AN/SPY-1D 3-D Radar
AN/SPS-67(V)3 Radar
AN/SPS-64(V)9 Radar
AN/SQS-53C(V) Sonar
AN/SQQ-28(V) LAMPS III

Crew:
32 Officers, 348 enlisted (including helo detachment of 4 officers and 14 enlisted)




Omega Class Missile Destroyer Price: $1.2 Billion
Designed as the next generation of navel ships, this destroyer utilizes the latest in battlefield technology. Utilizing the tumblehome configuration, combined with wave piercing technology makes the Omega design as close to a submarine as a surface ship can be; with the lion's share of the structure actually underwater. The design can only be described as 'wave-piercing,' which means that it lacks the sort of buoyancy which tends to lift conventional ships over waves. This minimizes the ships motion because any motion presents observing radar with opportunities to pick up the ship. It also uses electric drive and integrated power systems(IPS), multi-function and volume search radar suites; the Advanced Gun System; and new hull design emphasizing efficiency at 30-knots sustained speed, mission payload growth capacity and stealth.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/ddx_2003_1014.jpg

Power Plant:
Integrated Power System (IPS)
(2) large 35-megawatt generators
(2) small 4-megawatt generators

Speed: 30 Knots

Dimensions
Displacement: 12,000
Length: 600 Feet
Beam: 40 Feet
Draft: 26 Feet

Armament:
(2) 155mm Advanced Gun System
(140) PVLS cells (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile, Tactical Tomahawk, Advanced Land Attack Missile Systems)

Sensors:
Multi-Function Radar (MFR)
Volume Search Radar (VSR)
Naval Surface Fire Support Weapon Control System (NWCS)

Crew:
95 Officers and enlisted (includes helo detachment)

Aircraft
(2) SH-60 LAMPS helicopters



Submarines


Sea Snake Class Attack Submarine Price:$2.6 Billion
Designed to replace both the Seawolf and Los Angeles class, this stealthy but powerful submarine can do whatever task one can ask an attack submarine to do.

Power Plant
(1) S9G pressurized water reactor
(1) shaft with pumpjet propulsor
(1) secondary propulsion submerged motor
Improved Performance Machinery Program Phase IV

Speed:
35 Knots (Max)
25 Knots (stealth)

Depth:
About 1600 feet

Dimensions:
Displacement: 7,800 tons submerged
Length: 400 feet
Draft: 34 feet
Beam: 42 feet

Weapons:
(8) 660mm Torpedo Tubes
(28) VLS cells(Tomahawk Cruise Missiles / Mk 48 ADCAP Heavyweight Torpedoes / Advanced Mobile Mines / Unmanned Undersea Vehicles)

Special Warfare:
Dry Deck Shelter
Advanced SEAL Delivery System

Sonars:
Spherical active/passive arrays
Light Weight Wide Aperture Arrays
TB-16, TB-29, and future towed arrays
High-frequency chin and sail arrays

Countermeasures:
(2) internal launcher (reloadable 2-barrel)
(14) external launchers

Crew: 113 officers and men



Others


New Dublin Class Amphibious ship Price: $1.4 Billion
As one of the largest amphibious ships in the world, this ship allows any nation who uses this class to threaten any beach. Its complement of helicopters and aircraft offer additional support against the enemy. The ships can also provide command and control and aircraft facilities for sea control missions, while operating with an aircraft carrier battle group. They can transport and land ashore not only troops, but also the tanks, trucks, jeeps, other vehicles, artillery, ammunition and various supplies necessary to support the amphibious assault mission.


Power Plant:
Two boilers (600 PSI), two geared steam turbines,
two shafts, 70,000 shaft horsepower

Speed: 20 knots (cruising)

Dimensions:
Length: 900 feet
Beam:
106 feet at waterline
210 feet w/flight deck elevators extended
Draft:
30 feet Maximum (Full Load)
40 feet at the stern [ballasted]

Displacement:
Approx. 42,000 tons full load

Aircraft: (Actual mix depends upon mission)
18 AV-8B Harrier attack planes (or similar)
4 AH-1W SuperCobra attack helicopter
12 CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters
10 CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters
4 UH-1N Huey helicopters

OR

18 AV-8B Harrier attack planes (or similar)
12 CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters
10 CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters

OR

Assault
50 CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters

OR

Sea Control
30 AV-8B Harrier attack planes (or similar)
6 ASW helicopters

Landing Craft:
(2) LCU Landing Craft, Utility or
(3) LCAC Landing Craft, Air Cushion or
(6) LCM-8 Landing Craft, Mechanized or
(40) AAV Amphibious Assault Vehicle [normal] or
(61) AAV Amphibious Assault Vehicle [stowed]

Armament:
(2) 5"/108 caliber Gun Mounts
(2) - MK29 launchers for NATO Sea Sparrow
(3) - MK15 20mm Phalanx CIWS mounts
(8) - MK33 .50 cal. machine guns

Combat and Control Systems: AN/SLQ-49 Chaff Bouys
AN/SLQ-25 NIXIE Towed Torpedo Countermeasures
AN/SLQ-32(V)3 Electronic Warfare (EW) system
AN/SPS-48 radar
AN/SPS-49(V)7 radar
AN/SPS-64 radar
AN/SPS-67 radar
AN/SYS-2 Detection/Tracking System
MK-23 Target Acquisition System (TAS)
MK-36 Chaff Launcher
MK-91 Fire control System

Crew:
Ships Company 110 officers, 1,040 enlisted
Marine Detachment: 2,000




Admiral Class Command Ship Price:$9.5 million
Utalizing Ultra High Frequency(UHF), Super High Frequency(SHF), Extremely High Frequency(EHF), communications this command ship will allow you to communicate with your fleet and military command no matter the circumstances. The Admiral class also uses civilian system known as Challenge Athena III, which serves as a back up to the military antenna, WSC-6. CAIII and WSC-6 provide the ship access to the SHF bandwidth via a satellite.

Power Plant:
De Laval Steam Turbines - Twin Shafts

SPEED
20 Knots (sustained) 21.6 Knots (maximum)

Dimensions
LENGTH: 521 Feet
BEAM: 84 Feet
DRAFT: 21 Feet

Armament:
(2) 20mm MK 16 Phalanx CIWS
(2) Quad Box Launchers (SeaSparrow)

Crew
Ship's Company: 420 Enlisted/25 Officers
Staff: 90 Enlisted/48 Officers

All Designs Copyright Paul Berauer 2005
Roach-Busters
27-05-2005, 23:20
I'll purchase 100 Sea Snake Class Attack Submarines for $180,000,000,000, and 100 Omega Class Missile Destroyers for $120,000,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Kordo
29-05-2005, 20:21
I'll purchase 100 Sea Snake Class Attack Submarines for $180,000,000,000, and 100 Omega Class Missile Destroyers for $120,000,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation.


Thank you for your offer, but unfortuntly the store is not yet open. If you wish to make any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time,

Homer R. Matheson
CEO of Kordo Shipyards
Clan Smoke Jaguar
30-05-2005, 01:12
OOC: I'm still determining whether or how much I'll help, but here's a few things after just skimming:

1) Nuclear reactors are not boilers. Even the largest ships don't need more than 2-4 of them. When US engineers stuck in more, they found that it really didn't do anything. And since even one reactor being compromised is very bad for the ship, having additional ones can actually increase vulnerability, as you have to spread protection of them thinner.

2) Ignore all the fools who sell them. An Iowa class battleship, built to WWII Standards would cost about $1 billion today. Obviously, that means that one does not sell modified versions that cheaply (starting at $1.5-2 billion for the RL modified version). This vessel should be going for at least $2.5-3 billion, and has one other serious flaw: the PAC-3 missile. The PAC-3 was not designed to be fired from ships, and one should not try to do so. It is not designed for a maritime environment, and its vunlerability to corrosion will result in a rather poor showing. In the end, you're better off just getting variants of the SM-2 missile, some of which are designed to engage ballistic missiles anyway.

3) The top-of-the-line Sea Sparrow is known as the ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile). It actually doesn't look anything like its predecessor, and is different enough to get its own designation.

4) The Sea Snake is too small for the weapons load listed. An attack submarine about that size might carry maybe 38 total weapons (generally 12 VLS and 26 torpedoes/tube-launched missiles). With 38 VLS cells, and that size, one must wonder if it can even have the 8 torpedo tubes, let alone reloads for them. Even if it was 10,000 tons, that weapons load would be a bit heavy. You'd have to sacrifice quite a bit to achieve that, and that would preclude it from being an effective replacement for the current vessels. The submarine is also rather cheap for a replacement of the Seawolf and Virginia, both of which are more expensive than it.
Kordo
30-05-2005, 22:20
ooc: Thank you very much for your help, I do appreciate it. Anyone else have some suggestions?
Kordo
31-05-2005, 21:29
Bump
Sarzonia
31-05-2005, 21:59
OOC: If you're trying to build a superdreadnaught (or even the command ship you're suggesting here), there would be no way that you could build one for $5.4 billion. Those things are hideously expensive as you know. Even my most recent "baby" dreadnaught design (which is going to carry 20 inch guns) would probably be somewhere in the neighbourhood of $30 billion at a bare minimum. I also don't like the idea of having six turrets for your main guns. I'd cut that to about five.

You're probably looking at a ship that's going to displace anywhere from 250,000 tonnes (ultra, ultra light) to about 350,000 tonnes for all that you want for the ship to do. My Publius-class battlecarrier carries six 20 inch guns and is roughly 100,000 tonnes lighter than I've indicated for your ship and I sell it for about $25 billion.

As an FYI, Isselmere sells a Admiral-class command ship. I haven't compared his to yours, but just be aware of that.
Kordo
31-05-2005, 22:16
OOC: If you're trying to build a superdreadnaught (or even the command ship you're suggesting here), there would be no way that you could build one for $5.4 billion. Those things are hideously expensive as you know. Even my most recent "baby" dreadnaught design (which is going to carry 20 inch guns) would probably be somewhere in the neighbourhood of $30 billion at a bare minimum. I also don't like the idea of having six turrets for your main guns. I'd cut that to about five.

You're probably looking at a ship that's going to displace anywhere from 250,000 tonnes (ultra, ultra light) to about 350,000 tonnes for all that you want for the ship to do. My Publius-class battlecarrier carries six 20 inch guns and is roughly 100,000 tonnes lighter than I've indicated for your ship and I sell it for about $25 billion.

As an FYI, Isselmere sells a Admiral-class command ship. I haven't compared his to yours, but just be aware of that.


Thank you for you suggestions, I have made some of the changes you suggested. I'm not familar with Isselmere's command ship, but mines based off the USS LA SALLE.
Sarzonia
31-05-2005, 22:28
OOC: It looks like you made a typo in the displacement for your big ship: 35,000 tons as opposed to 350,000.

As for Isselmere's command ship, his is essentially another ship in his fleet that was retrofitted to serve as a command vessel. I'm not familiar enough with the La Salle to tell you the difference, but I think the secondary inspiration behind his ship was the USS Northampton, which is also different from the La Salle.
Isselmere
01-06-2005, 03:59
OOC: Actually, I sell two dedicated command ships, the Admiral-class (based on my Region-class battlecruiser) and the Cernunnos-class (based on my Bastion-class battleship).

I based these designs on the US Navy's practice of refitting existing ships as flagships as it is both cost effective and capital efficient.
Kordo
01-06-2005, 21:31
bump for more suggestions

Does anyone have any idea what some of the Lotam Classes' dimensions should be? Any suggestions (even ranges) will earn you my undying gratitude.
Sarzonia
01-06-2005, 21:56
Suggestion dimensions:

Length: 347 metres
Beam: 71 metres
Draught: 13.8 metres
Kordo
08-06-2005, 20:07
bump
Roach-Busters
08-06-2005, 20:11
I've been thinking of making an aircraft carrier, but I don't know shit from Shinola when it comes to ships, shipbuilding, et. al.
Kordo
08-06-2005, 22:27
I've been thinking of making an aircraft carrier, but I don't know shit from Shinola when it comes to ships, shipbuilding, et. al.


Neither do I, most of my ships are RL ships that are slightly bigger and carry slightly more guns.
Kordo
03-08-2005, 17:27
bump