NationStates Jolt Archive

The X-XX Light Tank Project

This is the thread, Concador. Here we should discuss details, delegate tasks and such. For now, I will set out the main goals. If you want a look at how complete the project is at any time, look at this post, on the first page.

Design Requirements


Survivable against light threats (RPG's and light guns)
Reliable as can be made possible
Long ranged - capable of continuous use
Armed heavily - 105mm gun, Multiple Machine Guns, AT Missiles


Do you wish to contribute anything more?

what about the bombers and fighters? Looks good so far.

Also, do you want to make an official alliance?

ooc- remember, an RL day is usually considered an NS year, so when we finally decide what we want, we can consider it done (if we consider the 27th the day research started, enough years will have passed).

OOC:

Yeh, whatever happens we have had the development time. Fighters and bombers come later.

And official alliance would be most beneficial, and very suitable for these circumstances. Would this be a mutual defence pact, or a close relationship between our nations?

IC:

Kazakh Provinces has devoted $20 million to the funding for this project.

DO you have any ideas on design?

Specific Ideas:
Spare parts in it (extra fuel, etc.), 4 men per tank: a gunner (will aim machine guns and main turret), a loader (loads the turret), a driver, and an alternate (can take over any job if need be).

Shazbotdom donated 90 BILLION to our research. We are providing 25 million, and laborers.

I was thinking about a mutual protection Alliance.

That looks good. I would suggest we keep weight as low as possible, and that the "alternate" you got there would be the Tank Commander.

A mutual defense pact would be great, I'm making a record of it now!

As for the extra's inside, a small rearwards storage compartment would be fine.

KP Progress Report

Design

Great progress has been made in tank design, and a new kind of armor has been succesfully tested and demonstrated. The tank gun and loading system is the only part still to be designed.

87% complete

Protoype Construction

The prototype tank has began to be made, starting from the propulsion system up. It is thought the design will be improved greatly with the aid of testing.

19% complete

First Version

We do not have enough data to begin to build a finished version at this date.

0% complete

Do the Concador designers have any more ideas. We have as follows:

Comfortable "crew" zone inside.
Full NBC protection.
Alchohol Powered Engine

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OOC: If you guys would allow certain corporations and institutions in my nation have interest in a new light tank. These corporations would like to invest money into this project in order to accelerate development, we would then buy production rights and sale rights. Is that alright?

KP-I don't think we should sell production rights, unless they pay us taxes on what they sell, etc.

As for tank design, lets arm each crewmember with a submachine gun in case the tank needs to be evacuated. (I know it isn't quite tank design, but I think it is important.) Also, I think we should have a small freezer with enough food to support men for about two days if need be. And a microwave to heat it up.

OOC:

I'd rather keep this a private venture, though thankyou AZK.

IC:

Of course, space would have to be provided for the submachine guns, and other crew "equipment". A fridge is not necessary, though a microwave would be rather convenient, especially in an NBC enviroment where you would be unable to leave the tank.

KP Progress Report

Design

Thanks to final input from Concador designers, the tank design has been finished, and the drawings forwarded to the prototype team.

100% complete

Protoype Construction

The prototype building suffered some minor setbacks thanks to revisions int he design, but is due to be finished within the year. Advanced building techniques are being tested at the same time.

39% complete

First Version

We do not have enough data to begin to build a finished version at this date.

0% complete

ooc- is Kazakhastania the same guy as KP?

Ooc : Is it too late for me to join in?

Perhaps you should consider variations for the tank, e.g A.P (Anti Personnel) 40 mm Cannon? We would be willing to donate $50 Billion into developement of the A.P Variation?

OOC: Yup, they are the same.

We coudl rename the A.P. version the E.W. (Electronic Warfare) version, for use in that role. A 40mm Bofors would be its main arnament.

IC:

News

The Prototype is complete! It is undergoing strict trials in the Bikanir Testing Facilitity in Kazakhstania, before being flown to Concador. Here, we will present various demonstrations to your officials. Is this ok?

the country of firehelper is wiling to dontae about 50,000,000 firehelper franks for the developement of this prject in the intrest of national and world defence

Do you mean you are posting an RP of the prototype test?

Prototype Test Results

After the first couple of days of testing, the new light tank's first problems were ironed out, mostly minor ones. A new amphibious system has just been tested aswell, making the tank fully amphibious up to long ranges and unlimited depths.

The first gun trials were succesful. It's infantary fighting abilities are massive with multiple machine guns, and it was advised that the turret be fitted with the M2 .50 cal Machine Gun and a 7.62mm Machine Gun, aswell as the coaxial weapon. Also, the main arnament was tested, and its accuracy is being improved by KP computer systems for the final version. Anti-tank missiles will be implemented for the final version.

The prototype will be flown out the Concador tommorow by C-130, where it will do any tests that the Concadorians wish, piloted by Concadorian crews.

OOC:

Could you RP your tests, if possible?

The prototype was put through rigourous testing in Concador: amphibious manuevers, land-based operations, and simulated attacks. It also was tested for protection (withstanding attacks). It tested excellent in all areas.

With the data collected, a final production model has been designed and built. With a higher fuel economy Alchohol engine and a new Fire Control and AT Missile System package, the final model has been delivered to Concador for building.

OOC: Tommorow I will have the stats for it, and maybe some pictures aswell.

Would this do?

http://www.valka.cz/ADMIN/REDAKCE/Martin%20Smisek/MB-3/MB-3.jpeg

or

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Osorio-Pics/Osorio-MBT.jpg

I prefer the first, as it is smaller and more "Light Tank" like.

I actually like the second more, but the first is fine.

OOC:

First one it is, if you want. There are more pictures of it.

Crew: 4
Length: 8.77m
Width: 3.2m
Height: 2.5m
Ground Clearance: 0.46m
Weight: 32,000 kg
Main Gun: 105mm Hi-Power M229 Gun
Machine Guns: 1 Co-axial HK-21 7.62mm MG
1 Mounted NSV 12.7mm MG
1 Mounted HK-21 12.7mm MG
Defensive Systems: ERA and 16 Smoke Grenade Launchers
Electronic Systems: Infrared Cameras, Laser Rangefinders, Command Net System, And Advanced Battlefield Computer
Max. Road Speed: 76 km/h
Range: 700 km
Engine: 927 bhp Alcohol Turbocharged Engine

Anything else we need?

looks good, but: 1-when you say range, do you mean firing range? 700 km is a little far. Also, max. speed 76 km is a little unrealistic for something that ways so much.

The speed is actually about correct, as the Power to Weight Ratio would mroe than permit this speed.

The range is the tanks actual range, as in it could drive in a straight line for 700km without refueling. Of course, this coudl be enhanced with extra fuel tanks.

ok, so we can start regular production now! do you still want to do the planes?

BTW, please read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427028&highlight=THorn) and tell me what you think:

Of course! I'm still using MiG-27's.

Regular production can go ahead, I announce this tank finished!

For RP's sake:

IC:

Every object within the tank has been hot and cold tested, dropped, bashed and generally tortured to within an inch of it's life, sometimes beyond, and the finished result is an incredibly reliable tank. An automatic fire suppression system will be intergrated into the production models, as will full NBC protection.

Armor levels are around 650mm of RHA, which is more than enough to protect against the latest RPG threats front on.

will it be in a new thread or this one? Oh, and I'm using F-22's, so we gotta make something better than that.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377483

May I direct your attentions?

The F-45 is the only reason I am anxious about making a new fighter. I would prefer to make a bomber, was that one of the original ideas?

In the original thead, I had the Idea to do both. Also, aren't you Kazakastania (a puppet)? I also want a fighter--in the war on Foxstenikopolis my fighters are complletely outclassed! We can also do a multi-role aircraft (bomber and fighter) if you want.

To tell the truth, we don't really need a good fighter. however, if you want to order some, we could make a more than suitable arms contract for an improved F-45.

A bomber is far more suited, though if you don't really need one it is more than fine with me. And yes, I am Kazakhstania, I made that fighter and lots mroe too. Anything else you need?

Wow, I didn't know you manufactured so many things! Please read this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427676) .

So!

Anything else we need to design?

Aside from the planes?

Yeh. Perhaps a Carrier, or a Destroyer/Cruiser/Frigate?

Actually, I'm designing a few myself. Some of them you've seen.

Yeh, they looked quite good.

I've been looking at your war thread, and was wondering, do you want to design an Amphibious Ship? It seems you are in dire need of some, and some good ones at that.

IC:

News

The first one hundred M-15 Tanks have rolled off a Kazakh Provinces construction line, and are being pressed into use in the Kazakh military. The construction rights, plans, and other such details have been sent to Concador with five of the tanks, for studying.

If you need any more tanks than you yourself can build, we can easily construct them.