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Glorious Class Pocket Superdreadnaught

History and Design

Following the completion of the seven vessels of the Imperial Class of Superdreadnaughts, it was generally assumed that production of new designs of Superdreadnaught in Praetonia would end for the time being. This appeared to be the case until the Imperial Class Superdreadnaught was called in for refit, allowing the already powerful ships to be equipped with a larger number of 25" naval cannon in quadruple turrets. This in turn lead to the freeing-up of 126 guns in 42 triple turrets.

It was originally assumed that these guns would be utilised as part of the national coastal defence grid, but instead the (politically beneficial) decision was made to commission a new class of Superdreadnaughts on the basic Imperial hull, but using the 25" triple turrets removed from the Imperials as they were refitted. Various designs were submitted, including one for a huge vessel, over a kilometre long, and carrying 8 turrets.

This, and others like it, was rejected, in favour of a true Pocket Superdreadnaught design mounting three triple turrets of 25" guns in the traditional style of mid-20th century battleships. The hull length was set to about 500m, and the Glorious Class Superdreadnaught was born.

The Glorious is based on the basic Imperial Class hull, but with a new and improved aft radar mast, a lower superstructure and reduced missile armament. The hull had to be lengthened from 500m to around 550m in order to accomodate all of the necessary equipment. Imperial Praetonian Shipyards was, however, able to keep the short runway for STOVL planes and helicopters which, it was feared, would have to be scrapped.

The vessel has had its reactor complement dropped to eight from the original ten of the Imperial Class, but this is only a very small proportional difference considering the relative size of these ships, allowing the Glorious Class to become one of the fastest Superdreadnaughts afloat.

There are enough turrets to produce 14 Glorious Class vessels, but it is uncertain as to whether that many will actually be purchased by the Imperial Praetonian Navy. It is expected that a number will be put up for sale and, if it is successful, will be offered as part of the Imperial Praetonian Shipyards product range.

Specifications

Picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/GloriousClassPSD.png)

Length: 562m; Beam: 130m; Draught: 17.2m
Complement: 4,253 Naval; 210 Aircrew; 320 Marines
Displacement: 820,398 tonnes
Speed: 37knts (cruise) 39knts (max)
Endurance: 13 years (fuel); 12 months (consumables)
Armament:
9x 25”/72 ETC Naval Cannon (A, B and Y positions in a triple turrets)
12x 8"/64 ETC Naval Cannon (Port / starboard outriggers in double turrets)
12x 57mm/64 Naval Autocannon (Port / starboard hull is single turrets)
7x 96 cell Ballista VLS (Superstructure; General Load: SSM / SAM; 960 missiles)
4x 16 cell Ballista VLS (Amidships; Discus SAAM, 256 missiles)
4x Quadruple Reloadable Torpedo Launchers (for / aft in armoured mounts)
24x Testudo CIWS (including gun, light rockets and countermeasure suite)
8x SubTestudo (anti-torpedo super-cav 30mm cannon and countermeasures)
Aviation: Space for storing and maintaining 32 STOVL / VTOL aircraft and up to 8 helicopters.
Armour: Titanium, hardened steel, ballistic ceramics and aluminium alloys built over an advanced honeycomb frame. Void spaces filled with flame-retardant foam around magazines and engines. Comprehensive fire-fighting equipment throughout. Hardened against the effects of WMD detonations, including EMP blasts and NBC attack.
950mm (turret and armoured belt)
710mm (general hull and deck)
1,100mm (over reactors and magazines)
Air Search Radar: IPO-82 A ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Surface Search Radar: IPO-82 B ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Fire Control Radar: IPO-83 ‘Simplex’ Phased Array
Sonar: IPO-84 'Polax' Bow Mounted and Towed Active / Passive Array Arrays
Propulsion: Eight IPO-02 Pebblebedded Nuclear Reactors powering four high-pressure waterjets
Total Production Cost: $110bn
Annual Running Cost: $5.25bn

Awesome, Praetonia.

*Tag*

OOC: Very nice! =)

*TAG* I might buy some later, too busy now.

[OOC: Thanks, thanks and thanks =)]

OOC: Nice, Praetonia. I would buy one but it would be a waste of money for me.

[OOC: Thanks / BUMP]

*Bump*

OOC

Nice, but a bit big for my navy ...

I like. But way to huge for my navy. Sorry mate.

Lovely design. I like it.

Stevid will be pulling her own suderdreadnought out soon, but if your one was put on sale then we would consider buying one or two.

But it is an excellent ship. Good work.

What do you use to create your picture?

[OOC: Thanks for the compliments, and the picture was done on MS Paint.]

As per our discussions on more private channels (IRC) we are hearby allocating $220 billion to purchasing these magnificant vessels. As soon as they are "shipped" so to speak the money will be wired.

Damn... it'd take alot of torpedo's to take one of these out, wouldn't it....

When can we expect to see these sips on the market? We have started saving ur funds for one ship.

((OOC: It looks great, good job.))

We are starting to save funds from our government waste and military budget as well as from our treasury for 3 of these fine vessels, please alert us when these hit the market, and is this version the domextic or export version? We would like if at all possible to purchase the domestic version.

No Endorse would be interested in pruchasing 4 of these fine craft for our navy. If possible, we would like to purchase a domestic version for our navy. No Endorse would be more than willing to offer something in return for the privilage of getting a domestic version.

To: Whom it May Concern
Leafanistan
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
Subject: RE: Superdreadnaught Order

I am pleased to be able to confirm your order for 2 new-build Glorious Class Pocket Superdreadnaughts. The vessels will cost $220bn to procure, and will take 20 years to complete when built side-by-side. I thank you for choosing Imperial Praetonian Shipyards, and hope that I see your custom again in future.

To: Whom it May Concern
The Sliver Sky
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
Subject: RE: Superdreadnaught Order

Although we are pleased that you have shown an interest in our vessels, you do not appear to have anywhere near enough money to afford to procure or maintain a Glorious Class. I adivse you to attempt to procure cheaper vessels, or wait for your economic situation (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=the_sliver_sky) to improve.

To: Whom it May Concern
No endorse
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
Subject: RE: Superdreadnaught Order

The statistics that you can see now are those of the only version to be produced, which is both our own version and the version up for export. If you wish to purchase 4 vessels then such a transaction could be facilitated for $440bn, although we would adivse you to review your current economic position having purchased numerous other superdreadnaughts from Sarzonia.

Praetonia:

When are you going to put the Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught up? Just wondering.

Praetonia:

When are you going to put the Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught up? Just wondering.
[OOC: Ah I nearly forgot about that. I'll post it tomorrow.]

Republican DoD Purchasing Department

The Republic wishes to purchase one of these fine vessels for its first Naval Fleet. The funds have been wired to your usual account.

To: Whom it May Concern
No endorse
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
Subject: RE: Superdreadnaught Order

The statistics that you can see now are those of the only version to be produced, which is both our own version and the version up for export. If you wish to purchase 4 vessels then such a transaction could be facilitated for $440bn, although we would adivse you to review your current economic position having purchased numerous other superdreadnaughts from Sarzonia.

To: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
From: Gale Amner
Minister of Military, No Endorse
Subject: RE: RE: Superdreadnaught Order

Someone below me in the procurement division purchased four Freedom class vessels without my knowledge. This is perfectly alright of course, as the vessels have never failed us yet, but now we'll have to cut our order down to one or two. Which would you recommend?


ooc: I use this calculator: http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php

To: Whom it May Concern
The Sliver Sky
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
Subject: RE: Superdreadnaught Order

Although we are pleased that you have shown an interest in our vessels, you do not appear to have anywhere near enough money to afford to procure or maintain a Glorious Class. I adivse you to attempt to procure cheaper vessels, or wait for your economic situation (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=the_sliver_sky) to improve.

OOC: Well first off that's not even my nation, you misspelled it, it's The Silver Sky, you spelled it The Sliver Sky, even if you would have spelt it right, my region is too big to be able to use Third Geek. I use this Budget Calculator (http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html) and this XML Feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi/nation=The_Silver_Sky)

OOC: Well first off that's not even my nation, you misspelled it, it's The Silver Sky, you spelled it The Sliver Sky, even if you would have spelt it right, my region is too big to be able to use Third Geek. I use this Budget Calculator (http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html) and this XML Feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi/nation=The_Silver_Sky)
[OOC: Ah, I see what I've done. I mixed up the 'I' and the 'L' in the name I typed into the post and then copied and pasted it into the address bar for your nation. Ive got to go now. Will confirm tomorrow.]

[OOC: Ah, I see what I've done. I mixed up the 'I' and the 'L' in the name I typed into the post and then copied and pasted it into the address bar for your nation. Ive got to go now. Will confirm tomorrow.]
OOC: Ah, it's ok, first I was like: WTF?? Some one highjacked my nation, but then I realized it was spelt wrong. and it's ok, see ya tomorrow, but if the SD Space Union posted about is better then this you can cancel this order.

ooc: bump

*bump*

To: Whom it May Concern
The Silver Sky
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Ordnance
Subject: RE: Glorious Class Superdreadnaught

Having conducted a thorough re-evaluation of your economic status, I am happy to confirm your order for the aforementioned number of superdreadnaughts. Production has already begun, and the vessels should be complete within 12 years. I apologise for the mistakes of the IPO Treasury, and hope that this incident has not tarnished the good reputation of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards.

To: Whom it May Concern
The Tokera
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Ordnance
Subject: RE: Glorious Class Superdreadnaught

Your revised proposal is accept and, in my opinion, much more sensible. Construction of your vessels has already begun and will be complete within an estimated 9 years. The vessels will be delivered simultaneously. I hope that the ships serve your navy well and that you consider us again in future for your naval needs.

To: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
From: Gale Amner
Minister of Military, No Endorse
Subject: Superdreadnaught Order
No Endorse, having reviewed its military budget, would like to purchase 2 of these fine vessels. The total will come to 220 billion USD. All funds will be wired apon confirmation of order.

<<Snip>>.
[OOC: I confirmed your order for 2 vessels in my post.]

Would it be okay if one could be able to purchase the blue prints instead of the ship itself?

ooc:

[OOC: I confirmed your order for 2 vessels in my post.]

okay. I just got a little confused. You said "The Tokera" in your post, not No Endorse.

IC: No Endorse is wondering how it will repair/service these ships. Will Praetonia allow repairs/refits to be done in No Endorse or does it want to do all of these actions? If we are to do the repairs, are there any plans or documents you can supply us with to aid?

ooc:


okay. I just got a little confused. You said "The Tokera" in your post, not No Endorse.

IC: No Endorse is wondering how it will repair/service these ships. Will Praetonia allow repairs/refits to be done in No Endorse or does it want to do all of these actions? If we are to do the repairs, are there any plans or documents you can supply us with to aid?
[OOC: Ah yes, a copy and paste error. And you can do repairs and reifts if you want. You can do everything except make unlicenced vessels to the same blueprints (which can be provided) or re-sell said vessels without permission.]

OOC: These things are unstoppable! True, maybe a little impractical, but the sheer intimidation of fighting something that powerful...Can I have two?

To: Whom it May Concern
The Silver Sky
From: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Ordnance
Subject: RE: Glorious Class Superdreadnaught

Having conducted a thorough re-evaluation of your economic status, I am happy to confirm your order for the aforementioned number of superdreadnaughts. Production has already begun, and the vessels should be complete within 12 years. I apologise for the mistakes of the IPO Treasury, and hope that this incident has not tarnished the good reputation of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards.

To: Sir Fortuanus Gallius, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Ordnance
From: Admiral Michael Sutherland
The Silver Sky
Subject: RE: Glorious Class Superdreadnaught

The Silver Sky is please that you have confirmed our order, the money has been wired. We would also like to purchase the blue prints for the Glorious Class SuperDreadnaught, we can discusse the terms and price. The Silver Sky is also interested in starting an alliance with your great nation, terms can be discussed later.

[Thank you for your time,
[Signed]
President Jason Garner
Admiral of the Navy Michael Sutherland
The Armed Republic of The Silver Sky.

OOC: Do you have MSN messenger or IRC? We could discusse terms there or if you don't we could always use TGs.

Praetonia,

When are you going to put up the Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught? I don't want to sound annoying but I heard from Sarzonia that you have intensive school, so I can fully imagine that it is hard. So instead I can post it up for you. I have the stats so if you want I can. Sorry if I sound rude, and no hard feelings, right :) Thanks.

Praetonia,
The Concremian Navy wishes to purchse two of these mighty vessels for the sum of $220bn US dollars. We look forward to the arrival of these warships and the money will be wired upon confirmation. We hope to continue peaceful relations and business with Praetonia.

Signed,
Grand Admiral of the Concremian Navy


ooc: i have plans for a stealth aircraft carrier, and need help with the numbers and electronic warfare suite etc. I'm ok with the armaments but help would really be appreciated. if your interested (in 60% of all profit :) ) the i can TG you my msn to help plan things out.

OOC: Concremo not to burst your bubble but you don't have enough money to buy those. (I used this (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/nsxmlparser.php) or this (http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=Concremo) budget calculator)

ooc: ah, i'm just short, dont suppose i can make up the 9 bn from 'Religion and Spirituality', or Gross Domestic Product prehaps?

Praetonia,

When are you going to put up the Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught? I don't want to sound annoying but I heard from Sarzonia that you have intensive school, so I can fully imagine that it is hard. So instead I can post it up for you. I have the stats so if you want I can. Sorry if I sound rude, and no hard feelings, right :) Thanks.OOC: You can go ahead and post it, though you should mention it's a joint design with Praetonia. I just spoke to him on AIM...

ooc: ah, i'm just short, dont suppose i can make up the 9 bn from 'Religion and Spirituality', or Gross Domestic Product prehaps?
You do know that the defence budget includes supplying/manning and training your WHOLE army don't you? You'd be spending your whole defence budget, but Praetonia might be nice and let you make seperate payments, you never know.

you never know indeed, i should be more than paying for these with income from my stealth aircraft carrier, provided i can find someone willing to help design it...

Thinking about it, i made around 100bn on a non-lethal weapons storefront, if you need proof search for multi-taser, thats not a common word and appears a few times in the storfront. There is a proffit-o-metre at the bottom.