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Things in Saharistan

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Willink
24-05-2005, 03:49
Guys, use this thread for Saharistan.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 03:53
The tactical overview basically reads as this.

Major combat is over, although a cold war style strategic naval operation is going on in the bay

The country has been divided, and Wilink and McKagan have built a base

Insurgents are carrying out operations

Reconstruction is beginning

We need to start the government building process

I have officially started an offensive agaisnt what I call "Jihad Dudes"
Willink
24-05-2005, 03:56
Ok here is more bad info- Baghdad has just been taken over by insurgents. You better get the stryker out of there.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 03:57
Stryker is out to sea, anyhow.

Remember the "Cold War Era Naval War".... well... the Axl Rose wants to have a target... that, and Jihad Dudes were reported in trying to leave the country via tugboat.
Space Union
24-05-2005, 03:58
Currently, Space Union is setting up a interim government in its district (now called SU Saharistan meaning Space Union's Saharistan for formal reasons). We currently are writing their constitution as phase 1. Once we are done with Phase 1 we can go to Phase 2. Phase 2 in Reconstruction of Saharistan.

Neelam Grewal,
Governor of SU Saharistan
McKagan
24-05-2005, 04:00
Meh, i'm sending the tanks into Baghdad, that'll be a short battle. There's not many insurgents left, most are seen running away.

The MF is setting up a constitution, while at the same time securing its section.
Ackerenia
24-05-2005, 04:03
If there is anyway our government can help, please let us know.

-Prime Minister Kleshgimeir Halberd-
Willink
24-05-2005, 04:04
Willink forces are moving in to retake Baghdad but we are requesting support.There are an estimated 15,000 insergents holding the 'Ruins'(im not even sure its a city anymore), and an unkown amount of armed civilians. We are plannig a major Suprise attack on the force, and i will post it soon. Untill then, SU-25's are bombing Them while they try to run away in Armored vehicles left behind by there old government, or on camels. if anyone hasent thought about it yet, we still need to remove the nuclear weapons still in the country(he didnt fire all 400.)
Halberdgardia
24-05-2005, 04:05
We have established a military base in our province, and it is under full nuclear lockdown pending regional clean-up by Leafanistani forces. We will move a peacekeeping force in as soon as decontamination is complete, and offer the services of our hypersonic bombers, which can be reconverted to transports with some notice, to any Saharistani refugees that wish to be relocated to our province, or to neighboring provinces. Additionally, we have established our headquarters in our section of the former area of Baghdad, also under nuclear lockdown pending decontamination of the region.

[OOC: If anyone here is good with maps, maybe they could draw up a map showing the territorial breakdowns of Saharistan between the coalition nations, as well as the breakdown of Baghdad. That could help things here.]
McKagan
24-05-2005, 04:07
Our Special forces teams have recovered 50 nuclear devices, but those are the ones we've known about for a long time. The others are completly unknown to us...

OOC: I'm off to bed guys.
Willink
24-05-2005, 04:10
In the Willink sector Jamialay bay or whatever has been renamed port stanley and construction has begun on housing, roads, power plants, a seaport and an airport.

oh i have a little info on the country- Ok think of it as a large Square- on the bottom in the left side is port stanly. on the middle right side is baghdad. Most of the country is desert, execpt on riversides on the left side of the country.


Here are pics of progress so far-


City of port Stanley (http://www.exclusively-cyprus.com/Pissouri/village.jpg)
Plan for city(distric map) (http://www.co.shawano.wi.us/subwebs/gis/images/CountyClerk/districts/small%20city%20districts.jpg)
The Gorvernment building and adjascent hotel (http://www.thetravelyear.com/photos/in_jaisalmerfort.jpg)

FUTURE PLANS FOR PORT STANLEY

Pic 1 (http://www.aus.edu/about/images/sharjah/Buhairah_Corniche_640.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.arabskeemiraty.com/foto_SAE_2/big/Sharjah_Corniche.jpg)
PIC 3 (http://www.arabskeemiraty.com/foto_SAE_2/big/Sharjah_Canal_Market.jpg)
Pic 4 Downtown (http://www.super-tour.com/Sharjah/03/00004.jpg)
Cities predicted population will be 400,000 people.













Pic of whats left of baghdad (http://www.farsinet.com/christmas/images/bethlehem.jpg)
Halberdgardia
24-05-2005, 04:16
[OOC: Found a map that might help some.

http://img88.echo.cx/my.php?image=untitled2ig.png

Although it's not a map of Saharistan itself, it will work until we come up with something better. I suppose we can assume that Saharistan is similar in shape and size to Sinical.]
Ackerenia
24-05-2005, 04:23
OOC: Which nations is it divided amongst? (I'm working on the map right now)
Willink
24-05-2005, 04:41
Here are the nations- Space union, WIllink, Mckagen,Halberdgardia and you I guess. Willink has the bottom left corner on the ocean, including port stanley, the hub of activity in this region. Baghdad is in on the right border on a river.
Halberdgardia
24-05-2005, 05:02
[OOC: Willink, your picture of Baghdad seems to be, well, a little optimistic, considering that my forces and McKagan bombed the shit out of it, and that was before all the nukes went off. Is that a picture of what the reconstructed Baghdad will look like? If it isn't, you might want to take it down, as there's really nothing of the city of Baghdad left.]
Willink
24-05-2005, 05:49
That is the only part of baghdad not damadged by anything, in the extream northeweastern side of the city. oh well i have begun arming the Military of my section of Saharistan also known as the PSDF-Port Stanley Defence Force.
current weapons include-
Galil Model AR assault rifle (http://www.info.com.ph/~mwgs/images/products/g_ar.jpg)
Magal sub machine gun (http://www.allnerdsandgeeks.com/Gun09.jpg)

Tavor special forces weapon (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/Tavor.jpg)

Uzi eagle jehrico pistol (http://mgritsch.haengem.at/uzi-eagle1.JPG)

Nevco Police assault rifle (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/negev/negev_2.jpg)

GALAT'Z Sniper rifle (http://www.exercitodeisrael.hpg.ig.com.br/galatz.jpg)

PORT DEFENSE FORCE-

10 Super Dvor MkII Patrol boats (http://lambo.ca/barzel/GenImg/Downloads-Super%20Dvora%20Mk%20II.jpg)

1 Eilat Class Saar 5 multi-mission corvette(Gift from Willink) (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/naval/saar5/saar5_se2.gif)

12 Dabur patrol boats (http://www.sibat.mod.gov.il/naval/image/dabur.gif)

AIR DEFENSE FORCE
10-Lavi fighters (http://ae-www.technion.ac.il/img/lavi.gif)

20 Yas'ur 2000 helicopters (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/yasur/yasur_1.jpg)

GROUND FORCES

10 Sho't tanks (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/tanks/shot/centurion3.jpg)

50 BTR-12 APC's (http://combat1.cool.ne.jp/BTR-152.jpg)

50-wolf Police trucks (http://www.rafael.co.il/web/rafnew/images/wolf-full.jpg)

All that is availble now.
Tannenmille
24-05-2005, 12:53
Leafanistan definitely needs a claim in Saharistan, and as 100,000 of my troops are active in Saharistan, I believe I could easily set up a claim.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 21:07
I'm working on forifying the nation so foreign fighters can't get in...
Sinical
24-05-2005, 21:14
I can send 50,000 troops.


OOC: Was I logged on yesterday? I have suspicion that someone used my computer in my absense and the account is on Auto-login. If I was, please disregard all was said yesterday.

Thanks,


Soundwave
McKagan
24-05-2005, 21:16
Yeah right,

So someone that wasn't you had perfect knowlege of this conflict, and then decided to invade me.

Send the troops, we'll seperate them and use them for border patrol.
Sinical
24-05-2005, 21:26
OOC: I had knowledge up until yesterday, because the capture was in my nation.

INVASION??? Can I say Godmodding? I don't even know where you are located lol. Sorry about if anything too rash was said.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 21:29
OOC: Meh, I just ignored it.

I wish overbear was on so we could continue our little naval thing.
Sinical
24-05-2005, 21:35
OOC: Don't know him... I changed my password and I guess I'll have to manually login from now on.... Ughhh
McKagan
24-05-2005, 21:39
OOC: Anyway...

IC: The Spirit of Twin Springs high altitude bomber is now on station.

If the insurgents take another city, evacuate all you can, because we're not giving them time to run.
Willink
24-05-2005, 21:43
We have recaputred half of baghdad, with a loss of 152 troops and 4 APC's.
Enemy losses are estimated at around 7,000
Willink
24-05-2005, 21:47
You guys, you really gotta stop destroying Cities just to destroy a few people.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 21:48
I've got some Air Cav units entering the North Side of the city, you might want to link up with them...

Or you can pull out and let us bomb it, it's not like anything is left for us to tear up.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 21:49
You guys, you really gotta stop destroying Cities just to destroy a few people.

The cities have been destroyed before now, it's not like anything else can be damanged very much.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:00
In other news, the Federation is hot on the trail of finding another stash of the nukes that are left over from the original shipment.

So for, out of 400, an unknown number (to me) have ben fired, and 12 have been found.
The Parthians
24-05-2005, 22:09
What happened? What was the situation?

-Parthian Department of Intelligence.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:15
The region was turned into a warzone between Leafanistan and Saharistan. I and another nation (Halberdgardia) sent a destroyer each to watch the situation. His was attacked in internation waters. A coalition against Saharistan's leader formed, and one that supported him. The country was invaded, and which point he aquried 400 nukes and fired some of them at Willink. Willink fired back. The country was carpet bombed 3 times.

We got the terrorist dude, now we're fighting an insurgency while trying to find the former governments weapons.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:18
Some insurgents have taken control of a small nuclear reator in the Northern part of the country. No cities are directly in the fallout, but one could possibly be exposed to radiation. I'll not make a move yet, but The Spirit of Twin Springs is en'route, just incase.
Willink
24-05-2005, 22:20
Today The Clapton began to fire tomahawk missiles at supposed Insergent bases. In other news, Willink's 1st aircraft carrier has been commissioned, named affectionaly the WNF-Vista and is on its way here to base at port stanley.

Pics
1 (http://anciendesporteavions.free.fr/Photos/Clemenceau/clemenceau_101.jpg)
2(complete plans) (http://www.histarmar.com.ar/Planos/De%20Guerra%20gral/Portav%20Clemenceau/clemenceau%2003.jpg)
3 (http://www.nimbustier.net/images/2004/clemenceau-rade-toulon.jpg)

Construction is almost done on the 2nd carrier, the WNF-Willink

Here are pics
1 (http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/images/rn/r09-2.jpg)
2 (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~petecc/r09ark.jpg)

Both thease ships will be part of the new WNF battle battalion.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:23
The Federation has 5 Carriers, almost 6.

One of them is currently in this theatre, but we're afraid to bring anymore in...

Besides, we already have air superiority, we can just use ground bases.
Willink
24-05-2005, 22:39
A third carrier has just been proposed, to be named Lebenon. Here are a few pics

1 (http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/images/rn/r38-3.jpg)
2 (http://www.maritimeprints.com/portfolio/MP066.jpg)


My carriers are being deployed to the region to get their 1st taste of combat.
Sinical
24-05-2005, 22:46
Transmission*****

Maj. Underwood: Spyplane SR-71-Alpha is above you Charlie Carrier. I'm seeing a large regiment of groundtroops about 1/4 mile on land, probobly about 700 of them. Hard to see from here, but looks like they have a few missle silos hidden on some of the islands off shore. Any suggestions?

End Transmission****
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:51
The Spirit of Twin Springs is en route, as is Federation Destroyer Stryker.
The Second Holy Empire
24-05-2005, 22:52
I never thought it would be possible for you guys to continue this, you have proven to me just how pathetic you are. It really is quite astonishing, you made up an army (the insurgents) and now you fight them and report yours and their losses. This is even beyong godmodding, you're fighting an enemy that YOU CREATED.

Just move on you assholes, this is the most pitiful act at rollplay I have ever seen, this is the third thread on something that ENDED in the first one!
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:53
If you don't like it, don't read it.

It sounds to me like you're just mad because you lost the war. ;)
Madnestan
24-05-2005, 22:57
Transmission*****

"...I'm seeing a large regiment of groundtroops about 1/4 mile on land, probobly about 700 of them...."

End Transmission****

OOC: That's less than a battaillon. If nitpicking is allowed ;) .
McKagan
24-05-2005, 22:58
OOC: That's less than a battaillon. If nitpicking is allowed ;) .

Ok, this has always puzzeled me.

Where does regiment fit after battalillon? Is it the direct next level of organization?
The Second Holy Empire
24-05-2005, 22:58
If you don't like it, don't read it.

It sounds to me like you're just mad because you lost the war. ;)

Hah, and you don't even know how to act in a war. Your idea of fun is to have 10 nations dogpile on one, how is that even called a war? Must have been fun for you since you can't stop. I just can't fathom how you are fighting an enemy that doesn't exsist.

By the way the only reason i stumbled on this trainwreck is because I went to the forums and I saw yet ANOTHER Saharistan thread and I didn't believe what I saw, I had to investigate and pray that I was mistaken.
Madnestan
24-05-2005, 23:00
Ok, this has always puzzeled me.

Where does regiment fit after battalillon? Is it the direct next level of organization?

OOC: Usually something like 3-4 companies=battaillon, 3-4 Battaillons=regiment, 3 regiments and artillery geriment=division.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 23:03
Hah, and you don't even know how to act in a war. Your idea of fun is to have 10 nations dogpile on one, how is that even called a war? Must have been fun for you since you can't stop. I just can't fathom how you are fighting an enemy that doesn't exsist.

By the way the only reason i stumbled on this trainwreck is because I went to the forums and I saw yet ANOTHER Saharistan thread and I didn't believe what I saw, I had to investigate and pray that I was mistaken.

So what? He HAD support, but it's not like everyone in theatre just turned on him for no reason. It's the typical thing that comes from muslim nations. "Evil invaders have ganged up on poor little innocent us."
Willink
24-05-2005, 23:03
8 SU-34 F/B have been Scrambled to attack missile silos, Assisted by 4 SU-37's

Pics of SU-34
1 (http://www.military.cz/russia/air/suchoj/Su_34/su34_7.jpg)
2 (http://www.wpeu.net/photo2/SU_34.jpg)
3 (http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/su34_7.jpg)

Pics of SU-34(Most advanced Russian Fighter, first flew in 1988 for you non military people)
Pics
1 (http://www.mach3graphics.com/misc%20graphics/jpg/SU-37%20on%20tarmac.jpg)
2 (http://www12.plala.or.jp/carimerodr/su.5.jpg)
3 (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3227/su-37.jpg)

ETA is 15 min(2 min RL)
McKagan
24-05-2005, 23:04
OOC: Usually something like 3-4 companies=battaillon, 3-4 Battaillons=regiment, 3 regiments and artillery geriment=division.

Yeah,

See, I used this other little thing to learn the units of organization, and regiment wasn't listed on it.

I've finally figured it out... :D
Madnestan
24-05-2005, 23:05
So what? He HAD support, but it's not like everyone in theatre just turned on him for no reason. It's the typical thing that comes from muslim nations. "Evil invaders have ganged up on poor little innocent us."

OOC: Besides, it's only good and realistic that they carry on even after the actual war has ended. Just look at the current Iraq, and you see that beating conventional army is not the same thing as victory.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 23:09
I know,

I don't like the loose ends, and I don't like fighting a bloody war for a population, while my army doesn't take hardly any casulties.

A 10 on 1 against a conventional army is going to produce FEW casulties, but an insurgency against any amount of soldiers is going to be hard.

Plus, the main point of these threads is the rebuilding and reunification of the country.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 23:11
8 SU-34 F/B have been Scrambled to attack missile silos, Assisted by 4 SU-37's

Pics of SU-34
1 (http://www.military.cz/russia/air/suchoj/Su_34/su34_7.jpg)
2 (http://www.wpeu.net/photo2/SU_34.jpg)
3 (http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/su34_7.jpg)

Pics of SU-34(Most advanced Russian Fighter, first flew in 1988 for you non military people)
Pics
1 (http://www.mach3graphics.com/misc%20graphics/jpg/SU-37%20on%20tarmac.jpg)
2 (http://www12.plala.or.jp/carimerodr/su.5.jpg)
3 (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3227/su-37.jpg)

ETA is 15 min(2 min RL)

The Spirit of Twin Springs is on station and ready to assist. We need someone to light up (laser designate) a target or we'll just have to carpet bomb the whole thing.
Sinical
24-05-2005, 23:12
The Second Holy Empire... Yep, they lost also... What is this fuck's problem? Yeah, I was a supporter of the leader of Saharistan until I foud out his true intention then I turned him over to the colation.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 23:13
The Second Holy Empire... Yep, they lost also... What is this fuck's problem? Yeah, I was a supporter of the leader of Saharistan until I foud out his true intention then I turned him over to the colation.

I supported him at the beginning of the conflict, then I went neutral.
Sinical
24-05-2005, 23:16
At least almost everything is starting to be settled. :p
The Second Holy Empire
24-05-2005, 23:29
The Second Holy Empire... Yep, they lost also... What is this fuck's problem? Yeah, I was a supporter of the leader of Saharistan until I foud out his true intention then I turned him over to the colation.

Uh, for your information, faggot, I pulled out after he launched nukes so I wasn't involved in the "war". Second of all you can't turn someone in that DOESN'T EXSIST! You didn't even have a part of this war so why don't you shut the fuck up, pussy.
McKagan
24-05-2005, 23:36
Sinical,

Don't respond to his last post.
Sinical
24-05-2005, 23:37
I really didn't want to flame you, but if you insist...

Congratulations! You have just proved the theory that there is no limit to human stupidity. Clearly, you spend way too much time in darkened rooms in front of your seven-year-old computer turning a whiter shade of pale. Go outside once in a while and breathe, before your brain starts to rot from all that festering stagnation and cognitive dysfunction.

It's just as well you can type, for if you had to speak your mind, you'd be speechless. Are you always this ignorant, or are you making a special effort today? Oh well, at least you only charge what your free advice is worth. You bring to mind a quote from Josh Billing: "Doesn't know much, but leads the league in nostril hair."

You are about as entertaining as a child's inflatable punching toy. You bop it, it springs back, you bop it again and you forget it ever existed. It slowly deflates in an unused corner, then one day you throw it away. You are the kind of person who, when one first meets you, one doesn't like you. But when one gets to know you better, one hates you. Maybe you wouldn't read like such a pathetic loser if you weren't so dumb that even blondes tell jokes about you; if your weren't so fat that when you run, you make the CD player skip at the radio station, or if you didn't have a face that is registered as a biological weapon. Who am I kidding? You would.

Dullard, do yourself and everyone else a favor, take a fatal overdose of your medication.


EDIT: Sorry for stooping to his level, if that's possible, but from now on, I'm firing the Ignore Cannon. :)
The Second Holy Empire
25-05-2005, 00:12
Hahah do you just keep that saved on a file somewhere and bust it out whenever you throw a pussy fit? How is anything in that post even remotely relevant to this thread? You truely have no time on your hands to write that much because I made you cry. I appologize, I didn't realize it would turn your into David Schwimmer with a skinned knee.
Willink
25-05-2005, 00:20
My guys have attacked, and here is the report.


We made our assault on a military outpost, and caused severe damadge to all enemy forces on island. We dropped out payloads on barracks, 2 silos, and what appear to be terrorist training centers. there was also a few T-72's there, and they were also destroyed.

PICTURES
An exploding enemy trailer (http://www.mojaveairport.com/images/filming/boom/boom-040915-02-8.jpg)
There goes the Barracks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1785000/images/_1785774_fire150afp.jpg)
Enemy Silo exploding (http://clinton-legacy.org/war10/imdf07102001143922a.jpg)
T-72 dies (http://www.4to40.com/images/newsat4/2003/T_72_Tank.jpg)
Flames from the base (http://hlp.home.igc.org/images/iraq/th_bomb.jpg)
Fire from Oil tank (http://www.cnn.com/2003/images/03/21/top.oil.fire.jpg)
Base after attack (http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/images/humaid/oilfire_hr.jpg)
Insergents on fire ! (http://www.siskiyous.edu/class/engl12/firepeople1big.jpg)
Base on fire(during bombing) (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/admin/storage/articles/200493203620.bussregion.JPG)
Remeinates of tanks
1 (http://alfatihoun.edaama.org/Fichiers/Iraq/War/web/images/GulfwarDestroyed%20Iraqi%20tank.jpg)
2 (http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/2dmardiv/aabn/images/Tank36.JPG)
3 (http://www.gulfweb.org/photos/shires/3.jpg)

My forces land back at WILLINK-Mckagen Military base
1 (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/images/su34_9.jpg)
2 (http://www.aeroworldnet.com/images/fls23a5.jpg)
Sinical
25-05-2005, 00:40
(Aside) Look here, he is trying to counter my thread but still looking and sounding like a dumbass. I believe his mother must have been on crack when she was breastfeeding him because his stupidty rivals that of a crack baby. pff


(To the Dumbass) I see that you are fluent in Gibbering Moronese. Unfortunately, I'm not. You generate more waffle than the waffle making machine in a waffle factory. Try learning elementary grammar before attempting to inflict your next literary abomination on this message board.

I used to think that you were a gibbering idiot. Now, after reading your latest post, I have a much lower opinion of you. You must have a very large brain to hold such a vast amount of sheer ignorance. Anyway, who was talking to you or even taking you under consideration? I am reminded of something relevant that Benjamin Disraeli said: "He was distinguished for ignorance - for he had only one idea and that was wrong."

You light up a room when you leave it. No doubt your life is so dull, that you can actually write your diary one week in advance. I'd get more pleasure from running my nostrils down a cactus, than reading another contribution from you. Maybe you wouldn't read like such a pathetic loser if you weren't so stupid that even single-celled organisms out score you in IQ tests; if your weren't so fat that buildings bounce when you haul your Sumo Wrestler mass down the street, or if you didn't have a face that could scare a hungry wolf off a meat truck. Nah, of course you would.

In conclusion, why don't you go away and play Russian roulette with all chambers fully-loaded?
Halberdgardia
25-05-2005, 00:45
Uh, for your information, faggot, I pulled out after he launched nukes so I wasn't involved in the "war". Second of all you can't turn someone in that DOESN'T EXSIST! You didn't even have a part of this war so why don't you shut the fuck up, pussy.

Do you have ANY idea how lucky you are that I don't have telekinetic powers?
McKagan
25-05-2005, 00:59
My guys have attacked, and here is the report.


We made our assault on a military outpost, and caused severe damadge to all enemy forces on island. We dropped out payloads on barracks, 2 silos, and what appear to be terrorist training centers. there was also a few T-72's there, and they were also destroyed.

PICTURES
An exploding enemy trailer (http://www.mojaveairport.com/images/filming/boom/boom-040915-02-8.jpg)
There goes the Barracks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1785000/images/_1785774_fire150afp.jpg)
Enemy Silo exploding (http://clinton-legacy.org/war10/imdf07102001143922a.jpg)
T-72 dies (http://www.4to40.com/images/newsat4/2003/T_72_Tank.jpg)
Flames from the base (http://hlp.home.igc.org/images/iraq/th_bomb.jpg)
Fire from Oil tank (http://www.cnn.com/2003/images/03/21/top.oil.fire.jpg)
Base after attack (http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/images/humaid/oilfire_hr.jpg)
Insergents on fire ! (http://www.siskiyous.edu/class/engl12/firepeople1big.jpg)
Base on fire(during bombing) (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/admin/storage/articles/200493203620.bussregion.JPG)
Remeinates of tanks
1 (http://alfatihoun.edaama.org/Fichiers/Iraq/War/web/images/GulfwarDestroyed%20Iraqi%20tank.jpg)
2 (http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/2dmardiv/aabn/images/Tank36.JPG)
3 (http://www.gulfweb.org/photos/shires/3.jpg)

My forces land back at WILLINK-Mckagen Military base
1 (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/images/su34_9.jpg)
2 (http://www.aeroworldnet.com/images/fls23a5.jpg)

Dude,

My ground forces are stretched WAY too thin, I can't get any target locks on individual targets because "The Spirit of Twin Springs" flys so high and all. I ask that if you have any units assaulting a target, that you have someone laser designate it, otherwise the most expensive peice of air equipment in this theatre will have to do the job of a plane 40 years older.
Ackerenia
25-05-2005, 01:03
http://img88.echo.cx/my.php?image=lol4ak.png

That is the site for the map of saharistan (somewhat) and what the divisions look like. May not be true to the real thing, but hey....we need to compensate, since the player of Saharistan does not supply us with info.
Sinical
25-05-2005, 01:16
I can Supply you with the location of Saharistan since is is bordering my country.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 01:20
Leafanistani Forces have destroyed a covert submarine pen. It is a rather odd thing, with only about 3 diesels moored there underneath a concrete bunker with closing doors. A large bouncing bomb got inside and the explosion went off without a hitch. Enemy troops had no AA, we have suffered no casualties.

Special Forces with traditional Army forces are prepared to rush inside after just 2 more bunker busters.

OOC: Didnt' Sinical like declare war on me or something? If you did Telegram me and we'll set something up.
Ackerenia
25-05-2005, 01:40
Ackerenia is sending the 4th Infantry Battalion to Port Stanley. These are to be used as a security force, under Willink's command. They'll arrive in 4-5 NS days.


Also, Ackerenia has just elected it's newest Prime Minister (ex-Colonel) Azrael Ackeren. He is to be sworn into office next NS year.

-Ackerenian Senate-
McKagan
25-05-2005, 02:13
Since my troops in this theatre are overworked, and even though I pledged not to until the WMD's had been completly cleaned, I am landing 50,000 more soldiers and 150 more 'Summey Class' main battle tanks. Now that the enemy Air Force has been completly destroyed we don't have to worry about that, but my troops are still fighting an extensive war on terror.

This brings the total number of Federation troops in this theatre to 280,000.

We've lost 15,342 troops and 29 tanks in this conflict, along with various APC's and helicopters.
Ackerenia
25-05-2005, 02:19
The 4th Battalion has landed, and is ready to unload its troops and supplies.

We hope to send a larger force of at least 15,000 in the next few weeks.


-Prime Minister Azrael Ackeren-
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 02:23
A new strain of my bacteria is more efficient at processing heavy metals so the clean up in some sectors is significantly, I've begun heavy robotic clean up of the biosludge, we'll finally have some relatively safe areas.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 02:27
Once my troops don't have to walk around in full radiation suits I might be able to get the number of deployed troops below 200,000.
Halberdgardia
25-05-2005, 02:30
As soon as Halberdgardia's sections of Saharistan are detoxified, we will deploy a large peacekeeping detachment of some 100,000 Halberdgardian Army troops to the region. We wish to keep the majority of our military power in reserves, so that the strain of our economy is kept to a minimum, and so that we can maintain some degree of flexibility in dealing with other conflicts, should that situation arise.
Ackerenia
25-05-2005, 02:32
OOC: i'd deploy more troops....but seeing as my nation is only a few days old...it'd kinda be godmoding :(
McKagan
25-05-2005, 02:35
As soon as Halberdgardia's sections of Saharistan are detoxified, we will deploy a large peacekeeping detachment of some 100,000 Halberdgardian Army troops to the region. We wish to keep the majority of our military power in reserves, so that the strain of our economy is kept to a minimum, and so that we can maintain some degree of flexibility in dealing with other conflicts, should that situation arise.

Once you send your 100,000 in, I'm taking 80,000 out.

It's also about time I start the military vehicle rotation... I have alot of APC's that have to have their armor removed, repaired, and then the anti-radiation systems removed and cleaned.

This is starting to be an expensive war.
Sinical
25-05-2005, 02:36
100 Subjects have volenteered to live in the "Safe Areas." They are being payed $2,000,000 US each for this experiment. Permission to deploy? :confused:
Halberdgardia
25-05-2005, 02:38
100 Subjects have volenteered to live in the "Safe Areas." They are being payed $2,000,000 US each for this experiment. Permission to deploy? :confused:

Although you may want to wait for affirmative answers from the other coalition nations, Halberdgardia grants permission. We hope you have medical assistance ready for these subjects of yours if they suffer from radiation sickness.


http://img88.echo.cx/my.php?image=lol4ak.png

That is the site for the map of saharistan (somewhat) and what the divisions look like. May not be true to the real thing, but hey....we need to compensate, since the player of Saharistan does not supply us with info.

Question: who assumes reponsibility for the DMZ? Is it an area run jointly by all coalition nations?
McKagan
25-05-2005, 02:44
The people shouldn't have to pay to go back to land that is rightfully theirs.
Sinical
25-05-2005, 02:44
30 Med-evacs are being sent for emergency...
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 02:47
Although you may want to wait for affirmative answers from the other coalition nations, Halberdgardia grants permission. We hope you have medical assistance ready for these subjects of yours if they suffer from radiation sickness.

Sigh, we've only cleaned containminated farmland, so we can low population density. However I suggest issuing iodine pills as radioiodine is still high in the area, and can cause thyroid cancer. However iodine pills aren't a magic bullet. Once the area clocks under 500 microoetngens I'll declare it somewhat dangerous, under 250 and I'll declare it safe to live, but with proper care and not eating anything that grows out of the earth directly is safe. Most radiation is still in the earth.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 02:52
An amphibious assault ship beaches itself.

Damaged and overused APC's from all over the theatre are assembled on the beach. Where the crew of the ship begin to disassemble the specific units on the APC's.

While these units are being prepared to be transfered back to the supply depots and repaired/refitted, 125 new APC's roll off onto the beach and prepare for assignments.

Along with this transfer, the first 30,000 of the new 50,000 troops are moved into the country. With this increase in ground power, crime rates and looting begin to fall.

In other news, electricity, running water, and small amounts of sewage systems have been set up in one area under Federation jurisdiction. Along with food imports and deradiation procedures, this part of the country is beginning to return to normal. Along with this good news, candidate lists for the district representative's are beginning to take shape.

Over 150 foreign fighters have been caught on their way into the country.
Sinical
25-05-2005, 02:52
Sounds good, can we meet somewhere outside of the Zone and transfer the subjects? How about 30 k/m from the Area of Danger? Preferably the Air Force Base.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 02:54
Sounds good, can we meet somewhere outside of the Zone and transfer the subjects? How about 30 k/m from the Area of Danger? Preferably the Air Force Base.

We also have another problem. Hundreds of containminated APCs and Tanks, I'm going to have them shipped to Tannenmille for destruction in the sun.

Also, the Dead Zone currently clocks 4000 microroetngens, that is 400 times normal, no give it another year.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 02:58
Wait now,

If you are talking about your own tanks and APC's, we can decontaminate them for you.

If you are talking about what were once enemy, shouldn't we keep them to let the local police forces use?
Halberdgardia
25-05-2005, 03:01
Halberdgardian Territory in Saharistan, 18:54 Zulu

A fleet of Halberdgardian C-12 Galaxy aircraft roar down from the sky, carrying precious cargo: 100,000 peacekeeping troops, all equipped with anti-radiation equipment, to maintain order in the Halberdgardian areas that are being detoxified, and a small group of a few thousand brave Saharistani refugees that are being returned to their broken nation to begin the process of healing.

Within hours, the teeming mass of humanity has landed at the small part of Baghdad International Airport that has been cleared of debris and rubble, and dispersed. A new detachment of Halberdgardian Army engineers join their compatriots in helping to rebuild the same airport that, just months before, their comrades had been blowing up. Another detachment helps lay down basic infastructure for the refugees and help them build new homes.

Within a matter of (NS) weeks, most of Halberdgardian-occupied Saharistan begins to look similar to rebuilt McKagan sections. Additionally, the engineers are making excellent progress at Baghdad International Airport, having rebuilt another full airstrip in addition to the one already cleared, and a number of hangars, control towers, and supply depots. There is still much of the airport that needs to be rebuilt, but progress is being made.
Ackerenia
25-05-2005, 03:02
Ackerenia is commiting a security force of 15,000 once the radiation levels have dropped. Our troops are insuffeciently supplied with anti-radiation suits, and will have to sit out for the while. What we did have was sent with our 4th Battalion.

-Prime Minister Ackeren-
Space Union
25-05-2005, 03:06
Once the radiation level has gone down, I'm ready to send in up to 200,000 Armed Forces into my territory. I can also supply APCs, Tanks, Vehicles, Aircrafts, Ships, and other stuff to people if they need them.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
McKagan
25-05-2005, 03:07
I'm keeping the number at 280,000 troops strong.

Although the families of 30,000 of the original troops are being informed of when their loved ones will be coming home.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 03:16
Wait now,

If you are talking about your own tanks and APC's, we can decontaminate them for you.

If you are talking about what were once enemy, shouldn't we keep them to let the local police forces use?

Removing external radition is easy, what you don't understand is that objects like these absorb radiation and radiate on their own. That is why the russians left so many trucks behind in Chernobyl, too radioactive to remove and they've absorbed it and begun reradiating it.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 03:19
I'll begin supplying cheap BDRM Scout APCs to any allied nation, these are cheap Soviet light APCs, with a .50 cal machine gun mount on top and with only 40 mm armor. Cheap, but disposible, we'll have to leave these for about 10,000 years until they are safe, or ship them to the sun.

These'll be free, they can take a HEAT round without too many casualities, but with radiation levels being so high outside those towelheads outside firing RPGs will be nursing tumours the next day.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 03:19
Removing external radition is easy, what you don't understand is that objects like these absorb radiation and radiate on their own. That is why the russians left so many trucks behind in Chernobyl, too radioactive to remove and they've absorbed it and begun reradiating it.

Well,

Most of our vehicles (the ones that aren't designed for radioactive combat) haven't been in MUCH radiation. So I guess that they'll be ok to take back home, won't they?

As for the enemy tanks left sitting around: The people in this country have been exposed to alot of radiation anyway, what's a little more going to hurt?

Most of our APC's have the armor kit on them designed for this type of place, though.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 03:23
Well,

Most of our vehicles (the ones that aren't designed for radioactive combat) haven't been in MUCH radiation. So I guess that they'll be ok to take back home, won't that?

As for the enemy tanks left sitting around: The people in this country have been exposed to alot of radiation anyway, what's a little more going to hurt?

Most of our APC's have the armor kit on them designed for this type of place, though.

Whats a little more going to hurt? I've seen children born with legs longer than their entire rest of their body, feet bigger than their heads, one leg had to be amputed later for tumours. Babies born with huge heads, but no colon, stillborn. Its horrific what radiation can do. Urban areas that have been exposed to radioactive dust clouds and clock over 400 microRoetngens will be leveled and deconed with bacterial treatments.

Anything over 400 microRoetngens I want you to dump, I don't want soldiers coming home sterile or giving their kids horrible herditary diseases.
Space Union
25-05-2005, 03:25
I suggest we just destroy our current vehicles that were in radiation. I'll replace all the APCs, Tanks, and other stuff that had to be destroyed. This way we can ensure that no one will bring back radiation to their country.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 03:25
Ok then, maybe it can do more.

Why don't we just carpet bomb the ruins (yet again), put a few tons of concrete down, then we can put a bio layer down, and build on that.

That could seriously be a possibility for some areas, y'know?
Space Union
25-05-2005, 03:26
Ok then, maybe it can do more.

Why don't we just carpet bomb the ruins (yet again), put a few tons of concrete down, then we can put a bio layer down, and build on that.

That could seriously be a possibility for some areas, y'know?

The price would skyrocket into the trillion in a couple of years, though. It is only a solution for local things not a nation-wide project.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 03:27
I suggest we just destroy our current vehicles that were in radiation. I'll replace all the APCs, Tanks, and other stuff that had to be destroyed. This way we can ensure that no one will bring back radiation to their country.

Well the idea behind the armor is that it's disposable, and it keeps the vehicles themselves at under 200 microroetngens.

I'll gladly take you up on replacing some of the original APC's though, the ones without the armor.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 03:28
The price would skyrocket into the trillion in a couple of years, though. It is only a solution for local things not a nation-wide project.

I'm talking about the worst places.

I mean, let's face it. These people DO have to live somewhere.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 03:28
The plan is anything clocking too high will be leveled with some jury-rigged remote controlled bulldozers and bombs. We'll sweep that away to get to the dirt and then biolayer it down. There is no other way. Radiation will be absorbed into the concrete and we'll have dead babies in a few years.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 03:30
Well I'm not to big on radiation, anyhow. I'll just keep all my vehicles uparmored enough to protect them. With a steady rotation and enough armor we'll be ok.

OOC: Going to bed now guys.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 03:30
OOC: For your information normal background radiation is 10-20 microRoetngens, however in large cities it can be 20-35 microRoetngens. Use 20 when comparing to normal.

OOC: EST gets me, good night kids.
Willink
25-05-2005, 04:45
Superbumb
Willink
25-05-2005, 04:54
Mackagen dude, your army is getting ass whooped by insergents ? I have only taken 420 casualites!(Mainly because Port stanley is secure)



Anyhow, i have a map of the city of Port stanley, along with more pictures

Map (http://www.sharjah.org/ar_html/map/sharjah_map_ar.jpg)

Pics
Pic 1 (http://p.vtourist.com/1739860-Lagoon-Sharjah.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.saveurs.sympatico.ca/ency-voy/asiemineure/emirats/images/sharjah.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.travel-images.com/uaesj2.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://images.hotel-rates.com/hotelimages/s/007000/007345A.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://www.visteon.com/floatglass/showcase/images/blue/blue_2000r/7petrofab_sharjah.jpg)
Pic 6 (http://www.visteon.com/floatglass/showcase/images/blue/blue_2000r/3awadakjazairi_sharjah.jpg)
Pic 7 (http://www.hotels-of-dubai.com/tours/7.jpg)
Pic 8 (http://media.mumineen.org/archive/photos/akhbar1424/jumada-27_sharjah-13.jpg)
Pic 9 (http://www.dubaicityguide.com/theguides/images/sharjah1.jpg)
Pic 10(Downtown) (http://www.dubaiworldtradecentrehotels.com/abudhabi/1.jpg)


God this city is sexy after i rebuilt it.:-)
Ackerenia
25-05-2005, 04:57
OOC: because my troops are there :rolleyes: :p jk
Willink
25-05-2005, 05:16
Your guys make the city look ugly, and this is what is happining to your men.



:D :sniper:


Im goin to sleep, the clock for this forum, gay british clocks ughhhhh
In NY it is 12:15
McKagan
25-05-2005, 14:14
Mackagen dude, your army is getting ass whooped by insergents ? I have only taken 420 casualites!(Mainly because Port stanley is secure)



Anyhow, i have a map of the city of Port stanley, along with more pictures

Map (http://www.sharjah.org/ar_html/map/sharjah_map_ar.jpg)

Pics
Pic 1 (http://p.vtourist.com/1739860-Lagoon-Sharjah.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.saveurs.sympatico.ca/ency-voy/asiemineure/emirats/images/sharjah.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.travel-images.com/uaesj2.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://images.hotel-rates.com/hotelimages/s/007000/007345A.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://www.visteon.com/floatglass/showcase/images/blue/blue_2000r/7petrofab_sharjah.jpg)
Pic 6 (http://www.visteon.com/floatglass/showcase/images/blue/blue_2000r/3awadakjazairi_sharjah.jpg)
Pic 7 (http://www.hotels-of-dubai.com/tours/7.jpg)
Pic 8 (http://media.mumineen.org/archive/photos/akhbar1424/jumada-27_sharjah-13.jpg)
Pic 9 (http://www.dubaicityguide.com/theguides/images/sharjah1.jpg)
Pic 10(Downtown) (http://www.dubaiworldtradecentrehotels.com/abudhabi/1.jpg)


God this city is sexy after i rebuilt it.:-)

My number is a little high, it should be closer to 5,000.

But that counts three landings/rescue operations in Saharistan before the war ended, counter terror operations, and a bloody battle in the capital city of the nation the insurgents invaded.
Willink
25-05-2005, 17:26
Attention all Coalition members, a massive terrorist bomb just erupted just outside of downtown, killing at least 300 civilians. We are cirrently trying to put out fires and help the injured. The bomb leveled a whole city block. here are some pictures.

pic 1 (http://www.infoimagination.org/ps/drug_war/articles/30_year_images/bombing.jpeg)
Pic 2 (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Newsweek/Photos/Web_Exclusives/040119_040126/040123_DavosTerrorQA_hu.vlarge.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.theroughwoodsman.com/images/turkeyblast.jpg)

(fires continue into the night)
Pic 4 (http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/12/04/terror.report/story.bali.bombing.flames.a.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39875000/jpg/_39875702_train_ap.jpg)
Pic 6 (http://www.worldandicollege.com/collegecourse/covers/1049.jpg)
Pic 7(place were bomb exploded) (http://www.stevendaniel.com/webphotos/bombing13%20overview.jpg)

Estimated damadges range from 100-500 million dollars
Sinical
25-05-2005, 17:55
I can donate $250 million. There will be a B-52 in your airspace shortly, the signature of the plane is: Bravo-Lima Foxtrot 67VII. It must match this code exactly. Plane enroute and 673.76 K/m away.


Thanks,

CSMA Henry
McKagan
25-05-2005, 21:23
Well, in current news, every Federation vehicle in the area has our version of "anti radiation gear" attached.

Our Steath Destroyer has also recovered 71 foreign fighters trying to enter the bay.

Also, the Federation has began the production of our own "radiation eating virus" and as much as possible is being sent to Saharistan to clear the Federation occupied areas.
Willink
25-05-2005, 22:10
McKagen check the telegram i sent you quickly.
McKagan
25-05-2005, 22:21
Willink,

Without giving away too much information...

"I like it. Yes, we'll help. The Federation has much to learn from this project."
Willink
26-05-2005, 00:18
We have sent you another project plan......
Sinical
26-05-2005, 00:23
I believe I could prove useful in whichever project you are proposing to him.
Willink
26-05-2005, 00:38
I have sent you project plans.........
Halberdgardia
26-05-2005, 00:42
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia respectfully inquires as to the nature of these "projects" Willink is running.
Willink
26-05-2005, 00:43
I will Telegram you both projects...........
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 00:56
McKagan, its not a virus, its a bacterium, it is sort of a suicide mission, it takes heavy metals and irradiated materials and puts them in its own cell wall. I've done extensive reworking of non-coding DNA to make hundreds of redundancies. It took decades but finally if one part of the DNA mutates (it is bound to happen in all that radiation) beyond working order the rest of the non-coding DNA from an extremophile will repair it quickly. It is a work of art.

I will begin shipping BDRM Scouts to the area via frieghters. So far our area is relatively quiet, mostly 'cause it was bombed to kingdom come, but radiation cleaning is going on very well. We've put up some cheap Tesla Reactors, and are working on building an oil powered one later on. Right now most of the buildings are temporary barracks. I'm rebuilding the roads I leveled too. Public Support is rather high in my country as the populace trusts in High Father and we are rather compassionate. Thank God our economy has been so strong lately, we are able to support this war and rebuilding better than I thought we would.
Dalvaktia
26-05-2005, 01:05
The Commonwealth of Dalvaktia does not wish to lay any claims to this area, but supports Halberdgardia and its decisions. We would like to see this place be united under a peaceful ruler, however, for we beleive that it is far overdue for these people know know generosity and peace, well, what is left of them.

Nikolay Denekofv,
Primum Mobile, Commonwealth of Dalvaktia
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:06
The Commonwealth of Dalvaktia does not wish to lay any claims to this area, but supports Halberdgardia and its decisions. We would like to see this place be united under a peaceful ruler, however, for we beleive that it is far overdue for these people know know generosity and peace, well, what is left of them.

Nikolay Denekofv,
Primum Mobile, Commonwealth of Dalvaktia

OOC: Thank you for saying absolutely nothing.

How many survivors do we have left? I've got about 1,500.
Willink
26-05-2005, 01:10
What are you talking about ? Port stanley is entirely modernized, somewhat like Miami in the desert. Its population is around 400,000.



I still have 19,100 troops
Dalvaktia
26-05-2005, 01:11
OOC: Thank you for saying absolutely nothing.

How many survivors do we have left? I've got about 1,500.


im sorry you cant read, maybe tomorrow we can learn colors.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:11
What are you talking about ? Port stanley is entirely modernized, somewhat like Miami in the desert. Its population is around 400,000.

Yes I know that port had a lot of people and was relatively unharmed based on the rest of the country, but I want to assemble a figure of how many are left.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:12
im sorry you cant read, maybe tomorrow we can learn colors.

I'm sorry you can't english good. Wait that is terrible grammar, I'm sorry you can't english well. :p
Willink
26-05-2005, 01:13
My estimates for people left in saharistan is about 3 million
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 01:13
Of the ~100,000 RASUSSs (Rural Air Space Urban Snow Sea Troopers) that I had deployed in Saharistan, ~99,790 of them are alive still.
Dalvaktia
26-05-2005, 01:14
I'm sorry you can't english good. Wait that is terrible grammar, I'm sorry you can't english well. :p

lol that is terrible english. you cant english good... lol :P thats not even.. a scentence
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:17
My estimates for people left in saharistan is about 3 million

That sounds about right...
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:18
lol that is terrible english. you cant english good... lol :P thats not even.. a scentence

OOC: At least I can punctuate, capitalize and spell. :p

How many cities do we have that have been rebuilt to at least 10%, and how much land do we have to still clean up?
Willink
26-05-2005, 01:19
We should turn the whole country into a Mega-Walmart and hire all the civilians to work there.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:21
We should turn the whole country into a Mega-Walmart and hire all the civilians to work there.

OOC: I sure hope to whatever dieties are out there that you are kidding. If you aren't then I want the electronics section and the adult videos section!
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:23
[QUOTE=Leafanistan]McKagan, its not a virus, its a bacterium, it is sort of a suicide mission, it takes heavy metals and irradiated materials and puts them in its own cell wall. I've done extensive reworking of non-coding DNA to make hundreds of redundancies. It took decades but finally if one part of the DNA mutates (it is bound to happen in all that radiation) beyond working order the rest of the non-coding DNA from an extremophile will repair it quickly. It is a work of art.[\QUOTE}

I know, I just have a habbit of calling everything a virus.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:25
[QUOTE=Leafanistan]McKagan, its not a virus, its a bacterium, it is sort of a suicide mission, it takes heavy metals and irradiated materials and puts them in its own cell wall. I've done extensive reworking of non-coding DNA to make hundreds of redundancies. It took decades but finally if one part of the DNA mutates (it is bound to happen in all that radiation) beyond working order the rest of the non-coding DNA from an extremophile will repair it quickly. It is a work of art.[/QUOTE}

I know, I just have a habbit of calling everything a virus.

OOC: Since I'm Chinese and I learned English as a second language, I occasionally say he/she/it for clearly defined genders, because in Chinese ta(1st tone) refers to he/she/it/god(s) and the only difference is in writing it.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:28
[QUOTE=McKagan]

OOC: Since I'm Chinese and I learned English as a second language, I occasionally say he/she/it for clearly defined genders, because in Chinese ta(1st tone) refers to he/she/it/god(s) and the only difference is in writing it.

I've heard some cool things about ya'lls language (one of them, anyway.) My teacher taught english over there for a few years.

He said that if you said "ma" and tilted your head one way it meant "mother" and if you did it the opposite way it meant "horse."

I'm not just dead sure how much I can believe him, though. He said that the country had like, alot of different variations of the "Chinese language."
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 01:28
[QUOTE=McKagan]

OOC: Since I'm Chinese and I learned English as a second language, I occasionally say he/she/it for clearly defined genders, because in Chinese ta(1st tone) refers to he/she/it/god(s) and the only difference is in writing it.


OOC: Booyah! :D
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:31
OOC: At least I can punctuate, capitalize and spell. :p

How many cities do we have that have been rebuilt to at least 10%, and how much land do we have to still clean up?

Every major city in the Federations districts have been restored to at least 10%, but alot of our smaller areas are still... well... radioactive.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:33
[QUOTE=Leafanistan]


OOC: Booyah! :D

Damn straight.

Chinese is a tonal language. Depending on how your voice goes a set number of sounds you can make many different words. Ma can mean, horse, mother, hemp, scold, and a few other things. It all depends on the tone of your voice or the accent of your voice. Each variation on Chinese is a different dialect. Like Brits "Skin a fat one" = "Roll up a joint", but in Chinese its a bit more extreme, how you pronounce the words changes entirely. You can be from Guangzhou (Canton) and speak to someone in Beijing (Peking) and you have no idea what the other guy is saying. The popular Cantonese last name Ng is pronounced (ing in English) written as (eng) and pronounced in Mandarin (Major dialect, one I speak) as Wu (3rd tone). I've heard the Cantonese speak and it sounds like beating a cat with a sore throat. But they say my Mandarin is soft and lacks emphasis.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:36
[QUOTE=Ackerenia]

Damn straight.

Chinese is a tonal language. Depending on how your voice goes a set number of sounds you can make many different words. Ma can mean, horse, mother, hemp, scold, and a few other things. It all depends on the tone of your voice or the accent of your voice. Each variation on Chinese is a different dialect. Like Brits "Skin a fat one" = "Roll up a joint", but in Chinese its a bit more extreme, how you pronounce the words changes entirely. You can be from Guangzhou (Canton) and speak to someone in Beijing (Peking) and you have no idea what the other guy is saying. The popular Cantonese last name Ng is pronounced (ing in English) written as (eng) and pronounced in Mandarin (Major dialect, one I speak) as Wu (3rd tone). I've heard the Cantonese speak and it sounds like beating a cat with a sore throat. But they say my Mandarin is soft and lacks emphasis.

I've basically heard all of that, including some of the mistakes he made! :p
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:38
[QUOTE=Leafanistan]

I've basically heard all of that, including some of the mistakes he made! :p

ma1ma1 ma4 ma3 ma?
ma3 ma4 ma1ma1 ma?
ma2 ma4 ma1ma1 ma?

Does mom scold the horse?
Does the horse scold mom?
Does hemp scold mom?

Respecitively. All pronounced the same, the tone or accent is all that matters.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:41
I feel sorry for any American tourists in China...

This has me wondering, would a Chinese person have trouble speaking Spanish?
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:42
I feel sorry for any American tourists in China...

This has me wondering, would a Chinese person have trouble speaking Spanish?

I learned it rather well, until I realized that I hated learning Spanish because my teacher was a ********** ****** ****-***** *****. So I switched to Chinese because I couldn't write Chinese, just speak it.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:44
Spanish seems kinda hard, but it's relativily alot like English.
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 01:45
http://www.journeymalaysia.com/pics_elephant%20centre/DERAILED.JPG

Derail'd!
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:46
Spanish seems kinda hard, but it's relativily alot like English.

You want something like English learn German. Trust me its English's sister language.

In our area, we've completed the first major street in our new city, it runs from the water processing plant to the Tesla Reactors and passes some apartment building we are building. Hurrah!
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:54
We are looking for volunteers to inhabit this new city we are building, it can serve about 200 people at the moment, and only 47 people from our contingent of survivors volunteered to. Anyone got more people who wish to inhabit the new city. It only clocks about 50-60 microRoetngens.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:55
In our areas we have the roads workable for APC's, it's not like anyone had cars even before I carpet bombed this place.

We have some living space going up in the areas with the lowest radiation zones, we've moved about 150 people into an apartment complex.

In other news, we've sent in more tents to actually get everyone a semi-dry enviroment.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 01:56
We are looking for volunteers to inhabit this new city we are building, it can serve about 200 people at the moment, and only 47 people from our contingent of survivors volunteered to. Anyone got more people who wish to inhabit the new city. It only clocks about 50-60 microRoetngens.

I've got people over here than can feel it up, easily.

The people here didn't even have standard tents until today, they were using whatever they could find. If you have a roof to put over their head, they'll take it.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 02:04
We've accepted 135 new survivors and are distributing ration stamps. We are working on getting more of our people to get to the farms we've decontanminated. So far most of them are occupied but some biosludge is reaching end of its cycle so we'll have room for about 16 more families. The newest water treatment plant is near completion and we are setting up a downtown shopping district. National Food Suppliers have set up a Wall-to-Wall mart in the area, and Song Motors has set up a car dealership, does any other industries wish to set up shop here?
McKagan
26-05-2005, 02:09
I've got a Leiutenant that knows of a dude that's been talking to soldiers in the 27th TacWing that says he had a business of selling survival stuff. IE, Flashlights, batteries, you know the thing.

He managed to move most of his stuff after we hit the airport, he deserves a small shop (and to be out of our hair over here :p )

We also have a group that wanted to run a newspaper under the old government but they were silenced. That might be worth looking into, as well.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 02:16
I've got a Leiutenant that knows of a dude that's been talking to soldiers in the 27th TacWing that says he had a business of selling survival stuff. IE, Flashlights, batteries, you know the thing.

He managed to move most of his stuff after we hit the airport, he deserves a small shop (and to be out of our hair over here :p )

We also have a group that wanted to run a newspaper under the old government but they were silenced. That might be worth looking into, as well.

We've got 6 general purpose storefronts that we will rent, they can pay us back after 5 years.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 02:22
Down here we're working on setting up living spaces, but due to the heavy damage to the terrain itself (our fighters hit this after the nukes and both carpet bombings.)

We're currently housing 200 people, but that's about it until the biosludge works it's way out.

We've got our own car dealership, and the newspaper dudes decided not to move as far away from their "home."

I've also saw a riverboat dealer open up, he's also selling some fishing boats and he's laid claim to one cargo ship that washed up on the beach. We've just got to get it off.

Col. Bowen
Federation Commander
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 02:23
From the ANNN (Ackerenian National News Network):

Reporter: News today as the troubles in Saharistan were at a relative low. As bloodshed continues throughout the country, much of the Coalition effort is diverted to getting rid of the massively over-radiated zones. Ackerenian legislation and Prime Minister Azrael Ackeren have both commented on Ackerenian presence in Saharistan.

Azrael Ackeren: ....which is why we firmly believe that our troops will be pulled out. The Coalition has plenty of the situation under control, and Ackerenia will continue with more monetary support. This desicion only comes after new weaponry and a small navy were purchased for Ackerenia. Should our troops be needed however, we will undoubtably give military support.

Reporter: In other news...
McKagan
26-05-2005, 02:37
I don't blame anyone for wanting to get their troops out of here. Although the security they provided will be missed, it makes the risk of radiation exposure lower and makes it easier for our units to move around.

It's also better that you do it now, rather than waiting and having critical positions open up.
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 02:41
OOC: Ya, plus we just need to outfit 'em. And thanks to Leafanistan for the extremely great prices :p on weaponry. BTW, is anyone else having problems with the forums?
McKagan
26-05-2005, 02:58
I've got a destroyer hidden in the waters off the coast that has enough small arms to equip a guerilla force of 4,000.

... just incase....
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 03:00
OOC: The only problem I'm having with the forums are occasional 404s, but nothing else.

IC:
TNN -- Tannenmillian News Network
The Senate of Tannenmille is to meet today regarding Tannenmillian military. Sozialistpartei Tannenmille called for Aven to initiate this Senate meeting, an act that can only be declared by the Reichsführer himself. As Reichsführer Tannen is currently personally overseeing the Reconstruction of Saharistan in Sol, he will be joining the Senate meeting via Holo-Net. If the majority favours the Sozialistpartei, it is believed that most, if not all, troops will be recalled to Sucello.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:03
Y'know, with the troops numbers in this theatre dropping so much, i'm starting to fear that an insurgent uprising could turn extremly ugly, extremly quick.
Sinical
26-05-2005, 03:04
I'll be there very soon. My B-52's are carrying my Furnaces. If there is an uprising, I'll simply Burn them to death. :)
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 03:05
OOC: well with me leaving, its a loss but not that bad. It was a battalion only...i dunno how much tannemille had though.

Should uprisings occur, Ackerenia will immediately respond by full-scale war on the Insurgents.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:06
I'll be there very soon. My B-52's are carrying my Furnaces. If there is an uprising, I'll simply Burn them to death. :)

Oh yeah right, they'll just walk straight in.... hey... this is a muslim nation.... WE CAN HIDE THEM IN THE MOSQUES!

Ok.... that was like.... wrong... and any inhumane treatment of prisoners (this coming from an American) will be met with military force.
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 03:06
Currently, I've got 100,000 RASUSS (Rural Air Space Urban Sea Snow) troopers spread thruout Saharistan.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:08
That 100,000 is gonna hurt, I was just starting to get the number of my troops closer to 200,000 rather than 300,000.... looks like i'll have top stop sending people home after they drop to 250,000....

:(
Sinical
26-05-2005, 03:09
It's not inhumane treatment. I will organize camps throughout the country with the Coalition's permission, kill them, then Incenerate their corpses.
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 03:10
Remember that it's up to the Senate whether or not the troops are actually recalled. If the Tannenfamilie Reichspartei wins in the Senate, the troops will stay.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:11
It's not inhumane treatment. I will organize camps throughout the country with the Coalition's permission, kill them, then Incenerate their corpses.

Ok,

I'll shoot em', you can burn em.

That's unless I call in an Air Strike, at which point you'll have to find the remains of the body over a 1 mile radius.

:p
Sinical
26-05-2005, 03:13
Napolm my friend, Napolm... :D
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:13
Remember that it's up to the Senate whether or not the troops are actually recalled. If the Tannenfamilie Reichspartei wins in the Senate, the troops will stay.

That'll work.

I'd suggest not bringing any new blood in, though.

I'm flooding the area with every engineer I have available once all the radiation is gone.

The Army Engineering Corps doesn't have radiation armor on their APC's, and it's hard to intregate engineers (in many numbers) into frontline combat batallions.
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 03:16
There's no way the Senate would allow Aven to bring in any more troops to Sol. We've got about 200,000 (100,000 in Pine Orchard that will definitely be recalled) in Sol alone, and nobody is asking for more. And once stability begins returning, we'll start trickling soldiers out, but for now they're staying.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:16
"You smell that? Do you smell that? Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like - victory"

Apocalypse now (1979)
McKagan
26-05-2005, 03:18
There's no way the Senate would allow Aven to bring in any more troops to Sol. We've got about 200,000 (100,000 in Pine Orchard that will definitely be recalled) in Sol alone, and nobody is asking for more. And once stability begins returning, we'll start trickling soldiers out, but for now they're staying.

Pine Orchard was hell.

My paratroopers took heavier casulties than anyone else.

That said, that's why i'm not bringing more troops in here.
Sinical
26-05-2005, 03:22
Burn It To The Ground!!! HaHaHA!
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 03:32
We will be sending in the Neptune Carrier Battle Group.

1 Nimitz AC- The APS Ackerenia
2 Ticonderoga Guided Missle Cruisers- The APS Liberty, The APS Deadly
1 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer- The APS Halberd
1 Spruance Destroyer- The APS Romulus
1 Bainbridge Class Frigate- The APS Seafarer
2 Los Angeles Class Subs- The APS Delma, The APS Kleshgimeir
1 Sacramento Class Fast Combat Support Ship- The APS Sacred


For now, this is what we wil offer in place of our ground troops. Should we bring ground troops in, we'd like to know where they may land and where we can establish a base camp.

-Prime Minister Ackeren-



I'd also like to add that the Ackerenian Army/Navy/AF will be fully equipped and manned at a strength of 250,000. We can now safely deploy whole divisions, rather than sparse numbers of infantry.
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 03:37
Port.. erm. That port city Willink controls is fairly safe, if you need to bring troops in navally.

TNN -- Porell City, Tannenmille
2340 hrs

After hours of deliberation, the Senate has finally taken a vote and decided 86 to 3 that Tannenmillian troops would remain in the Saharan Theatre. The Senate also voted to remove TCS Toxic Dandelion and its contingent currently in Pine Orchard from the area. TCS Reltannen, Aven Tannen's personal Star Destroyer, will remain in Sol, acting as a base of operations.
Willink
26-05-2005, 03:53
We really need to annonce our casualties in this country so far, along with our troops diployed.

Sahristan-Leafansitan war

Troops deployed- 175,000
Casualties-10,425

Coalition vrs leafansitan
Troops-120,000
casualties- 450


Now
troops-23,000
casualties 421
Willink
26-05-2005, 03:55
The willink parliment has reached a decision and is sending 30,000 more troops to the region, bringing the total to 52,000 troops
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 03:56
Saharistan-Leafanistan War

Troops Deployed - 0
Casualties - 0

Coalition vs. Leafanistan (Did you mean Saharistan? Leafanistan is part of the Coalition)
Troops Deployed - 200,000
Casualties - 70 (Came in way late on that one)

Now
Troops Deployed - 100,000
Casualties - 330
Willink
26-05-2005, 04:04
Sry i ment saharistan.
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 04:06
Saharistan-Leafanistan

Deployed: 3rd Ackerenian Infantry Batallion (1,000 men)
Casualties: 750 dead with 3 wounded (Killed in Zarqawi's massive explosion)


Coalition Vs Saharistan

Deployed: 4,500

Casualties:130 dead

Sinical Intervention

Deployed: 150

Casualties: 0

Pine Orchard Insurgancy:

Deployed: 300 Excalibur Force Units
Casualties: 225 dead and 10 wounded

Total Deployed:5,950
Total: 1105 dead and 13 wounded
Willink
26-05-2005, 04:08
Shit i forgot i still have 800 men in pine orchard. thank you for reminding me.
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 04:10
Oh yeah! I have my 4th Battalion there lol. I even made a command center there...i leave like 200 men there.


IC: The 4th Battalion has been advised to remove its presence in Pine Orchard. We will remember those who fell from the Coalition nations.
Willink
26-05-2005, 04:15
TO ALL COALITION MEMBERS

Just a hint to those who have not found out about my 'projects' yet, they are a Superadvanced Mig-29 airframe with an updated MiG-25 engine, and unrivaled weapon capacitys, and a thrust vector system, for amazing manouverablility, and my other project, a new fighter for use by the reunited Saharistan, which is a cross between a Mirage 3 and and F-15, with a Saab gripen engine and the EW (electronic warfare) combat system.
Tannenmille
26-05-2005, 04:17
This will greatly help New Saharistan against any imperialists that might try to attack it after the reunification.

Also, I've been thinking for a while that after Saharistan is reunited and the "Coalition" is dissolved, we could perhaps establish a more permanent alliance?
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 04:19
This will greatly help New Saharistan against any imperialists that might try to attack it after the reunification.

Also, I've been thinking for a while that after Saharistan is reunited and the "Coalition" is dissolved, we could perhaps establish a more permanent alliance?


I agree....but haven't you all signed up for the CIN as well?
Willink
26-05-2005, 04:21
The MiG-29 platform is a joint project between Willink and McKagen while i may sell the other fighter to sinical, and full info is going to be unveild at Zaiilk(i think) weapons show.

here is tha link for weapons show-http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420130
Halberdgardia
26-05-2005, 05:14
To: All Coalition Nations
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: ATTN! Possible Saharistani Resurgency

The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia has discovered some disturbing similarities (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421790&page=1&pp=15) between the nation of Zahrain (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=Zahrain) and the former al Zaraqwi regime of Saharistan. We highly advise all coalition nations to be wary of Zahrain, as they have been sold at least 150 to 200 nuclear-tipped warheads by unsuspecting nations. Halberdgardian miltary forces remain on DEFCON 2 alert pending further investigation into this matter.

Zahrain's RL identity as the former leader of Saharistan has been confirmed:To: All nations.

Yes, Im the same RL player that used to be Saharistan.

Apart from the fact that my old nation is now one big green glowing crater, Saharistans economy was shit, Ive made my new nations one much better.

But fear not, Im not going to attack any of you 'coalition' nations, I have my sights and Jihad set on somewhere else!

To: Willink.

How much are the SU-30s?

(OOC) Im logging off after this post, Ill be online tomorrow morning/afternoon.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Ackerenia
26-05-2005, 05:27
OOC:Speaking of which Willink....how much are some of your aircraft...I'd be really interested in buying some.
Willink
26-05-2005, 05:35
Since i am friendly to u, i can sell you them at the following prices


MIG-31M=10 million

MiG-29M=6 million

SU-37's=20 million(very expensive)

SU-34 fighter bomber=8 million

Su-33 carrier fighter=5 million

SU-39 attack aircraft=free

Su-24's=free

Mig-35 (F-22 raptor killer)=30 million

Yak-141 freestyle-4 million

SU-30K's= 1 million

i am not selling any of my bombers.
Willink
26-05-2005, 05:50
TO ALL- Im gonna be off for a week, so dont TG me.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 21:22
The Federation just brought a nuclear sheild online, 97% of all missile launches will be taken out by automated defense systems, the rest (hopefully) by K12 pilots.
McKagan
26-05-2005, 21:33
I've officially changed the name of my nation to "The Republic of McKagan"

Thus, all abreviations on my ships go to "MRS" instead of "MFS"
Willink
26-05-2005, 22:53
lol hi MRS. Stryker !

anyhow, i lied, im no gonna be off for 2 weeks. only 15 days of school left.
McKagan
27-05-2005, 00:24
I think i'll use MSR, that looks cooler, and no one can have jokes, then.

I've only got 2 days of school left.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 00:27
I think i'll use MSR, that looks cooler, and no one can have jokes, then.

I've only got 2 days of school left.

OOC: You could use RMS (Republic of McKagan's Service/Ship) or RMV (Republic of McKagan Vessel). Just my $0.02.
McKagan
27-05-2005, 00:33
THANKS!

RMV!

I LOVE THAT!

:p

IC: The amount of Republic troops in Saharistan has dropped to 125,000, and the biosludge in Republican held areas has dropped to great levels in the last few weeks.

For the first time APC's and vehicles not armored for radiation are seen in the streets, and business is beginning to pick up in the local market places.
Tannenmille
27-05-2005, 00:47
If you transport all the biosludge to a central location, we can pick it up and deposit it neatly on Sol.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 00:48
SITREP--Halberdgardian-Occupied Areas of Baghdad (HOAB) & Halberdgardian-Occupied Areas of Saharistan (HOAS)

In HOAB, Halberdgardian Army Engineers have completed most major reconstruction projects at Baghdad International Airport, having cleared the third and final runway of debris and having re-paved it with fresh asphalt. Additionally, the main terminal buildings, control towers, and the main hangar complexes have been completely rebuilt. Therefore, pending approval from other coalition nations, and a SITREP from Leafanistan on the decontamination progress, we are pleased to announce that Baghdad International Airport is now open for international and domestic flights.

In HOAS, decontamination progress is proceeding smoothly, with 1,000 Saharistani families having returned to the renewed lands to begin reconstruction. Most are involved in agriculture, but an increasing number of families are heading to the rebuilt cities. In terms of infrastructure, HOAS is about 80% up to pre-war capacity; most rural areas are still using wells for their water supplies (it has been tested to make sure it has been decontaminated, of course), and Halberdgardian-supplied septic tanks. Running electricity to far-flung rural areas is proving to be a problem, however, and so most families in the rural areas are without electricity. The suburban and urban areas are essentially back up to pre-war levels, as it is far easier to create a centralized sewer and water pipe system, as well as power lines, there. All in all, the reconstruction project is on-schedule, slightly under-budget, and progressing well. We have plans to bring in a large group of Saharistani refugees, numbering approximately 150,000, shortly.

OOC: For those of you who saw Ackerenia's map, what do we do about the DMZ?
Willink
27-05-2005, 00:50
To all allies, in defence of our countries, i will be distributing SS-27 ICMB's for 15 million per 50. Due to agreements, they are only Single warhead, and are Russia's newest ICBM, entering service in 1999. Here is info-


The single-warhead RT-2UTTH Topol-M is an advanced version of the silo-based and mobile Topol intercontinental ballistic missile. The SS-25 Topol is generally similar to the American Minuteman-2, while the more sophisticated SS-27 Topol-M is comparable to the American Minuteman-3. The Topol-M is 22.7 meters (75 feet) long and has a diameter of 1.95 meters (6 feet 3 inches). The missile weighs 47.2 metric tons and has a range of 11,000 kilometers (6,900 miles). The solid-propellant three-stage Topol-M missile complex, with a standardized (silo and mobile) missile, is to become the foundation of the Russian strategic nuclear forces in the 21st century. It is planned to accommodate Topol-M both on self-propelled launchers as well as in silos. High survivability of the mobile complex is achieved by the capability of offroad movement, of a continuous change in location and of a missile launch from any point along the movement route.

I hope you like this offer.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 00:58
Although we have no plans to use them offensively, instead fearing a nuclear assault from Saharistan-like nations and other unsavory powers we may come into conflict with, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia wishes to purchase the following:

Five hundred (500) Minuteman-3 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (if available; we will also pay extra for this preference if required)

Forty-eight (48) Trident II D-5 Fleet Ballistic Missiles (see above parentheses)

from Willink, for a total of $164,400,000 (assuming prices for these warheads are the same as for the Russian ones). The money has been wired to your account, and we have transports ready to help you deliver the missiles to launch sites and silos in Halberdgardia.
Willink
27-05-2005, 01:01
Port stanley's international airport is also open, and we should leave the DM zone for civilians until the country is reunited. In other news, the first Willink nuclear powered SLBM sub has been launched, A russian Delta 5 class sub, named WNF-Springer(here is a pic (http://warfare.ru/?linkid=1767&catid=304&image=113))
Here is info
. (tons): 11,740 tons Surfaced
18,200 tons Submerged
Speed (kts): 13-14 knots Surface
22-24 knots Submerged
Dimensions (m): 167,0 x 12,2 x 8,8
M./Engine: 2 nuclear reactors, steam turbines; 2/7 bladed props., 60'000 hp
Man./Crew: 130
Armament:16 ballistic RSM-54 (SS-N-23) (R: 4'900 n.m; W: nuclear; 10 x 100 ktons)
6/533 mm VA-111 (w: c/nucl) 650 mm (d: 400 m; s: 200 kts) Total: 12
Operational depth: 320 meters (design)
400 meters (maximum depth)
Electronics: "Omnibus-BDRM" controls all combat activities, processing data and commanding the torpedo and missile-torpedo weapons. The "Shlyuz" navigation system provides for the improved accuracy of the missiles and is capable of stellar navigation at periscope depths. The navigational system also employs two floating antenna buoys to receive radio-messages, target destination data and satellite navigation signals at great depth. The submarine is also equipped with the "Skat- VDRM" hydroacoustic system.
The Delta IV submarines employs the D- 9RM launch system and carries 16 R-29RM liquid-fueled missiles which carry four multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles.Unlike previous modifications, the Delta IV submarine is able to fire missiles in any direction from a constant course in a circular sector. The underwater firing of the ballistic missiles can be conducted at a depth of 55 meters while cruising at a speed of 6-7 knots. All the missiles can be fired in a single salvo.
The 667BDRM Dolphin submarines are equipped with the TRV-671 RTM missile-torpedo system that has four torpedo tubes with a calibre of 533 mm. Unlike the Delta III, it is capable of using all types of torpedos, antisubmarine torpedo-missiles and antihydroacoustic devices. The battle management system "Omnibus-BDRM" controls all combat activities, processing data and commanding the torpedo and missile-torpedo weapons. The "Shlyuz" navigation system provides for the improved accuracy of the missiles and is capable of stellar navigation at periscope depths. The navigational system also employs two floating antenna buoys to receive radio-messages, target destination data and satellite navigation signals at great depth. The submarine is also equipped with the "Skat- VDRM" hydroacoustic system.


Here is info on the SLBM it has, The SS-N23 Skiff



R-29RM Ballistic Missile of D-9RM System

Designed to destroy strategic targets at intercontinental ranges. Adopted for service with the Navy in 1986. Installed on the project 667BDRM strategic missile-carrying submarines having a basic load of 16 missiles.

The missile comprises a number of new technical solutions:

three-stage design of the missile having minimum sizes;
use of high-accuracy astro-inertial control system, and use of radio correction via radio navigational satellites “Uragan” substantially increased the firing accuracy;
use of various types of flight trajectories at short and intermediate firing ranges;
flexible (refer to energy consuming) zone of dispensing of reentry vehicles;
expansion of combat capabilities of missiles due to the possibility of their use in the high latitudes of Arctic.

Main liquid-propellant engines of two stages are “submerged” in the fuel tanks of the missile. A salient feature of the missile is the integration of the 3rd stage and the warhead into a single unit with common tanks. The front section of the missile houses an instrument section with a missile control system, which includes: equipment for the astro-correction of flight trajectory according to the results of measurement of navigation star coordinates, radio-correction system exchanging information with navigational satellites, and reentry vehicles.


I MAY export them.
Willink
27-05-2005, 01:06
All the missiles have been sent to your nation, and i currently have 600 in my arsenal, complimenting my other 150 mockingbird nuclear missiles and my SLBM missiles for complete safety against future missile attack.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 01:09
All the missiles have been sent to your nation, and i currently have 600 in my arsenal, complimenting my other 150 mockingbird nuclear missiles and my SLBM missiles for complete safety against future missile attack.

Confirming receipt of missiles, and money transfer to your account. The 500 Minuteman-3s have been sent to various reinforced underground silos throughout Halberdgardia (each buried at least 150 feet, with some buried as far down as a half a mile), while the 48 Trident IIs have been split into two groups, with each of our two Ohio-class submarines receiving a full complement of 24 Tridents.
Willink
27-05-2005, 01:19
Is anyone interested in holding a colation airwar games ?
Leafanistan
27-05-2005, 01:32
Is anyone interested in holding a colation airwar games ?

I have a flight simulator complex outside New Meiji City, we can link it up via our supercomputers if you like.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 01:52
NOTICE

In response to some concerns that Halberdgardian defense officials had about our recent purchase of Minuteman-3 ICBMs, and their advantages and disadvantages, we are hereby dismantling 300 of the 500 purchased ICBMs and will use their payloads to create an estimated 560 Tomahawk cruise missiles, all equipped with 200-kiloton nuclear payloads. The Trident IIs will remain as part of the weapons complement of our two Ohio-class submarines.
Leafanistan
27-05-2005, 01:54
Want to buy plans for my Microwave LASER missile defense system? It uses focused microwaves to overload and melt a missile's circuit board. Rendering its electronics useless.

I'll give it to you for $3 billion US over 10 years.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 01:59
Want to buy plans for my Microwave LASER missile defense system? It uses focused microwaves to overload and melt a missile's circuit board. Rendering its electronics useless.

I'll give it to you for $3 billion US over 10 years.

OOC: How feasible is this (in terms of RL, I mean)? It sounds great, but I don't want to use it if all I'm going to get from other nations is, "OMG U R TEH N00B MICROWAVE CANNON R NOT TEH POSSIBLE!!!!!11 WE R TEH FIRING TEH I.G.N.O.R.E. CANNON!!!!11"
Leafanistan
27-05-2005, 02:06
OOC: How feasible is this (in terms of RL, I mean)? It sounds great, but I don't want to use it if all I'm going to get from other nations is, "OMG U R TEH N00B MICROWAVE CANNON R NOT TEH POSSIBLE!!!!!11 WE R TEH FIRING TEH I.G.N.O.R.E. CANNON!!!!11"

The US military just used a few of these to take out low orbit satellite and shoot down some old tactical nuclear ballistic missiles in a trial out in White Sands. They just gave the plans to Israel to thelp them protect themselves. So far it takes about a 30 second exposure with a standard burst to fully destroy a missile's circuitry.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 02:25
The US military just used a few of these to take out low orbit satellite and shoot down some old tactical nuclear ballistic missiles in a trial out in White Sands. They just gave the plans to Israel to thelp them protect themselves. So far it takes about a 30 second exposure with a standard burst to fully destroy a missile's circuitry.

In that case...we will purchase the plans from you, lump sum of $30 billion, using surplus defense budget monies. We would also appreciate it if you could inform us of the feasibility of upgrading the system so it can disable missiles with a shorter exposure time (perhaps 10-15 seconds, if possible), and if possible, assist us with upgrading the system appropriately.
Leafanistan
27-05-2005, 02:37
Of course, to increase effectiveness you need to increase power. Of course the current system of 2 refracting surfaces won't work. We have to upgrade to a compound refractors so the turret does not explode with the strength of the microwave LASER. I have a few of those operational. I'll send techs over for $10 million per year to develop it.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 02:44
Of course, to increase effectiveness you need to increase power. Of course the current system of 2 refracting surfaces won't work. We have to upgrade to a compound refractors so the turret does not explode with the strength of the microwave LASER. I have a few of those operational. I'll send techs over for $10 million per year to develop it.

Agreed. How many years will it take?
McKagan
27-05-2005, 03:04
The Republic has an interesting situation.

We are MORE than capable of building delivery systems, and we already have a fleet of 4 highly advanced subs (The RMV Axl Rose is parked in the bay, hehe) all capable of launching nuclear weapons. We also have up around 200 ICMB's with high yeilds.

However, we're moving toward a "nukes are evil" trend, especially in public opinion. The GSRN footage of some of the stuff out of this country have done alot of people in, and our next batch of 20 may not even be allowed to be completed.

That said, they also saw what happened to Willink, and what his forced responce was.

I believe a 500 missile purchase would work quite well.
Willink
27-05-2005, 04:09
I already have the russina SV-500 Anti ICBM system, which fires a high capacity missile with a range of 1,500 KM, it can also shoot down low flying satilites and Spy planes. Anyhow is anyone else interested in war games ?
Sinical
27-05-2005, 04:12
Right now my researchers are working on a newly develpoed fuel source from sand in our desert. Anyone interested, see me.
Aeibeiria
27-05-2005, 04:27
the situation in Saharistan reminds me of post-WWII Germany.

the question is: will the occupying coalition eventually collapse, and fighting amongst them begin?

it would be a nice new RP, though. just a thought.
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 05:34
the situation in Saharistan reminds me of post-WWII Germany.

the question is: will the occupying coalition eventually collapse, and fighting amongst them begin?

it would be a nice new RP, though. just a thought.

OOC: That would be an interesting RP...but none of us are terribly eager to get into another war anytime soon. We're breaking our budgets over a number of things right now: paying for the war in Saharistan, paying for the assistance many of us provided in the fight against the Pine Orchard insurgency, funding the reconstruction of Saharistan, Willink, and other countries affected by WMDs in the Saharistan War, not to mention all the spending we've been doing to upgrade our militaries...it all adds up to be quite expensive. Plus, a lot of the coalition members have formed alliances with one another, as our nations have become a lot closer following the war. So I don't think a war is likely. But I have to give you credit: it is an interesting idea.
Armandian Cheese
27-05-2005, 05:40
OOC: Sorry to bump in, but if money is what y'all need...Well, we Armandian Cheesers wouldn't mind dropping a few dimes for the poor WMD afflicted nations and the coalition aiding them.

For a price, of course. ;)
Halberdgardia
27-05-2005, 05:48
To: All Coalition Nations

OOC: Sorry to bump in, but if money is what y'all need...Well, we Armandian Cheesers wouldn't mind dropping a few dimes for the poor WMD afflicted nations and the coalition aiding them.

For a price, of course. ;)

OOC: <<sigh>> I know this kid in RL. We go to the same high school.

On a more personal note, Armand, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia wouldn't say "no" to a donation of a few hundred billion dollars into our defense budget. ;)
McKagan
27-05-2005, 21:17
I'm not sure (not looked at all the numbers) but I think that the McKagan Republic has the best economy of all the coalition members.

This war has actually helped business all together in my country. Combatant Operations has made a killing and opened up alot of new facilities, as have many other businesses.
Sinical
27-05-2005, 21:30
We've finally recovered from the Aftermath of the War... Damn leader of their's.
McKagan
27-05-2005, 21:33
Your country didn't take any damage from the war, it was just a 5 minute drive through.

And if you did, it's your fault.
Sinical
27-05-2005, 21:35
I was just stating a fact, I didn't ask for a blatenly smart fact. >_>
McKagan
27-05-2005, 22:23
Dudes and possible dudettes,

You're going to love this. The Republic has started production on our first MAJOR battleship. The Raptor Class "Tactical Carrier" is going to be one of the most feared battleships/carriers on the oceans today.

10 nuclear reactors, over 400 missiles of various kinds, semi-automated anti sub torpedo's, and it carries 34 fixed wing aircraft and up to 10 helicopters.

It's supposed to operate alone against the war on terror and insurgency. The primary principal being that insurgents/terrorists won't have the ability to launch a large scale air/ground/underwater attack on a major target. If operating in a conventional theatre it will have a standard carrier battle fleet.

It has one of the most advanced fire units on any vessel, ever.

In a surprise turn of events, Captain Daniel Larson (formerly of Stryker) has been transferred to command this vessel once it launches.

The planned name is RMV Robyn.
Sinical
27-05-2005, 22:39
Pff... I'll outbid you on this.
McKagan
27-05-2005, 22:45
How.... i'm the one making the ship....

EDIT: Also, looking at your economy, it would be quite difficult for you to support a ship like this.
Sinical
27-05-2005, 22:55
...Wrong Context...

It's not going to be my economy that pays for it all, the other two countries in my region will give it all for their founder.
McKagan
27-05-2005, 23:02
Neither of those two countries have economies much better than yours...

Seriously dude, super carriers are a little outta your league at the moment.

Just be pro business and in a matter of RL days it could be in reach though.
Space Union
27-05-2005, 23:05
OOC: Actually I have the best economy. Just a note :)
McKagan
27-05-2005, 23:07
Ooops, forgot about you....

Erm... 2ND BEST ECONOMY HERE!

:p
Tannenmille
27-05-2005, 23:56
Economic Power in order

AUG 04 Space Union - ACNS - $1.95
MAY 05 McKagan - PWRH - $1.71
APR 05 Tannenmille - VSTR - $0.95
JAN 05 Leafanistan - VSTR - $0.89
MAY 05 Halberdgardia - GOOD - $0.56
MAY 05 Willink - FAIR - $0.35
MAY 05 Ackerenia - WEAK - $0.25

(ACNS = All-Consuming, PWRH = Powerhouse, VSTR = Very Strong)

Defense Spending in order

AUG 04 Space Union - $8,424,386,928,904
JAN 05 Leafanistan - $1,689,166,413,591
APR 05 Tannenmille - $618,503,158,443
MAY 05 McKagan - $25,682,298,210
MAY 05 Halberdgardia - $7,555,633,998
MAY 05 Willink - $7,319,440,819
MAY 05 Ackerenia - $0

(From SunsetRPG)
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 00:03
Dudes and possible dudettes,

You're going to love this. The Republic has started production on our first MAJOR battleship. The Raptor Class "Tactical Carrier" is going to be one of the most feared battleships/carriers on the oceans today.

10 nuclear reactors, over 400 missiles of various kinds, semi-automated anti sub torpedo's, and it carries 34 fixed wing aircraft and up to 10 helicopters.

It's supposed to operate alone against the war on terror and insurgency. The primary principal being that insurgents/terrorists won't have the ability to launch a large scale air/ground/underwater attack on a major target. If operating in a conventional theatre it will have a standard carrier battle fleet.

It has one of the most advanced fire units on any vessel, ever.

In a surprise turn of events, Captain Daniel Larson (formerly of Stryker) has been transferred to command this vessel once it launches.

The planned name is RMV Robyn.

Your Raptor-class vessel intrigues us, as we could us some more large vessels to support our current naval forces. If possible, we would appreciate your sending us some specifications on this vessel (telegram is preferred). We may end up buying production rights from you if we like it enough.
Space Union
28-05-2005, 00:14
Economic Power in order

AUG 04 Space Union - ACNS - $1.95
MAY 05 McKagan - PWRH - $1.71
APR 05 Tannenmille - VSTR - $0.95
JAN 05 Leafanistan - VSTR - $0.89
MAY 05 Halberdgardia - GOOD - $0.56
MAY 05 Willink - FAIR - $0.35
MAY 05 Ackerenia - WEAK - $0.25

(ACNS = All-Consuming, PWRH = Powerhouse, VSTR = Very Strong)

Defense Spending in order

AUG 04 Space Union - $8,424,386,928,904
JAN 05 Leafanistan - $1,689,166,413,591
APR 05 Tannenmille - $618,503,158,443
MAY 05 McKagan - $25,682,298,210
MAY 05 Halberdgardia - $7,555,633,998
MAY 05 Willink - $7,319,440,819
MAY 05 Ackerenia - $0

(From SunsetRPG)

I used to be frightening but a UN proposal dropped me to All-Consuming. But hopefully tomorrow it will be back at Frightening along with my military spending.
Armandian Cheese
28-05-2005, 00:26
To: All Coalition Nations



OOC: <<sigh>> I know this kid in RL. We go to the same high school.

On a more personal note, Armand, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia wouldn't say "no" to a donation of a few hundred billion dollars into our defense budget. ;)
OOC: Yes..but what can you offer in return? I can provide an aid package of say, a two billion USD or so, to modernize your weapons systems and such, but something must be provided in return. Basing rights, an alliance, and a monopoly of the Halbergardian cheese markets, perhaps? (Seems like a lot, I know, but keep in mind that in a nation as small as yours, the cheese industry probably isn't too large.)
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 00:41
OOC: Yes..but what can you offer in return? I can provide an aid package of say, a two billion USD or so, to modernize your weapons systems and such, but something must be provided in return. Basing rights, an alliance, and a monopoly of the Halbergardian cheese markets, perhaps? (Seems like a lot, I know, but keep in mind that in a nation as small as yours, the cheese industry probably isn't too large.)

Considering I'm making five times the offered amount of money alone per NS year (and that's only with a Good economy!), I am afraid must respectfully decline.
Leafanistan
28-05-2005, 00:53
Compound Refracting Microwave LASER turrets can reach around low orbit and take about 3-5 seconds to fully burn out a missile's systems. Also we are working on a Microwave tank, and the turret can be used on ground targets. One thing, there are 13 different frequencies on that Microwave turret, all the way from water (kill biological targets) to concrete (anti-building use) to titanium (anti-armor use).

We can complete a full defense system along with protected power plants in about 10 years with your full cooperation.

In other news, we are developing our first home built dreadnaught, expect it to begin being sold soon.

So far we've cleared our whole sector, radiation is very low now, only about 350 microRoetngens on average. We are almost done building the remaining Tesla Reactors and the water plants are done. Apartment buildigns are mostly done and we've completed a downtown area. My soldiers are complaining about being used as common laborers.

OOC: Also about the RP following this, I've had urges to seize parts of Saharistan for permanent colonization and expansion. Lets do something like that. Contact me on AIM (EST remember): Verdafolio.
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 01:03
Compound Refracting Microwave LASER turrets can reach around low orbit and take about 3-5 seconds to fully burn out a missile's systems. Also we are working on a Microwave tank, and the turret can be used on ground targets. One thing, there are 13 different frequencies on that Microwave turret, all the way from water (kill biological targets) to concrete (anti-building use) to titanium (anti-armor use).

We can complete a full defense system along with protected power plants in about 10 years with your full cooperation.

Excellent. We are pleased to hear about your progress, and your workers will, of course, have our full cooperation in installing this venerable defense system.

In other news, we are developing our first home built dreadnaught, expect it to begin being sold soon.

OOC: Is that a naval vessel, or a spacecraft? If it's the former, please send me the specs, as I've been looking for some more surface vessels in my navy.

So far we've cleared our whole sector, radiation is very low now, only about 350 microRoetngens on average. We are almost done building the remaining Tesla Reactors and the water plants are done. Apartment buildigns are mostly done and we've completed a downtown area. My soldiers are complaining about being used as common laborers.

OOC: Also about the RP following this, I've had urges to seize parts of Saharistan for permanent colonization and expansion. Lets do something like that. Contact me on AIM (EST remember): Verdafolio.

OOC: I'd be up for that, pending approval of the other coalition powers. Of course, we'd have to split up the DMZ as well, but I'm game, especially as the al-Mahmoud oil refinery complex, which is the main oil refinery that produces a large percentage of the country's oil supplies, falls within Halberdgardia-occupied territory.
Armandian Cheese
28-05-2005, 01:32
Considering I'm making five times the offered amount of money alone per NS year (and that's only with a Good economy!), I am afraid must respectfully decline.
OOC: Ah yes, but five times the money...from one industry? You make five times the money perhaps in total, but I doubt your cheese industry is worth five billion a year.

Fine, two billion a year. Basing rights and opening of new markets to our corporations is vital to maintaining our international presence.
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 01:53
OOC: Ah yes, but five times the money...from one industry? You make five times the money perhaps in total, but I doubt your cheese industry is worth five billion a year.

Fine, two billion a year. Basing rights and opening of new markets to our corporations is vital to maintaining our international presence.

When I said five times as much, I meant in my defense budget. My GDP is about $230 billion. We will consider your proposal.
Armandian Cheese
28-05-2005, 02:05
Ah. Well, it's not often one finds the offer of 2/5 of your military budget being paid for every year, so I'd urge you to consider.

Our corporations are very excited about the prospect of dominating and controlling---err, I mean, "opening new free markets", especially within the cheese industry.
Aeibeiria
28-05-2005, 02:24
OOC: That would be an interesting RP...but none of us are terribly eager to get into another war anytime soon. We're breaking our budgets over a number of things right now: paying for the war in Saharistan, paying for the assistance many of us provided in the fight against the Pine Orchard insurgency, funding the reconstruction of Saharistan, Willink, and other countries affected by WMDs in the Saharistan War, not to mention all the spending we've been doing to upgrade our militaries...it all adds up to be quite expensive. Plus, a lot of the coalition members have formed alliances with one another, as our nations have become a lot closer following the war. So I don't think a war is likely. But I have to give you credit: it is an interesting idea.

thanks for thinking so.

On topic: i understand your situation. anyway, i would like to donate 2 billion crowns (my country's currency) as humanitarian aid for the reconstruction of housing, roads, schools, and government offices in the nation's new capital. oh, and also the capital's largest library. and if it's okay, i would like to be the overseer of this reconstruction, i just don't like getting through all the red tape and wasting precious money. this would be a temporary thing though. in the future, aeibeirians would also like to invest in saharistan, hopefully in the food business.

in exchange for all these, i only ask that the coalition to protect from insurgents the small contingent (about 250 personnel, headed by my daughter Istana) that i will be sending as soon as this proposal is approved. please treat them with utmost care. thanks!
Tannenmille
28-05-2005, 03:15
Tannenmille will gladly aid the contingent from Istana. A brigade of RASUSS troopers will be at the Baghdad Airport to greet them and bring them up to date on Saharan events.
McKagan
28-05-2005, 03:21
OOC: Also about the RP following this, I've had urges to seize parts of Saharistan for permanent colonization and expansion. Lets do something like that. Contact me on AIM (EST remember): Verdafolio.

You know what... me too. I didn't want to say anything, though.

We can use it as a buffer zone for the people in this little coalition, and since the person that plays the country isn't around.... say hello to "Camp Saharistan"

I believe i'm going to have a new RMMC base in the theatre.
Willink
28-05-2005, 03:36
How the hell did tannemill spend more than me ? i was against saharistan since the biginnig of the Leafanistan-Saharistan war and deployed the most army and air units, not counting the millions of dollars it costs to fire 200 Nukes. Along with the navy forces in the area, I estimate that ive had much more than that, anyhow, your economy does not determine your Spending on the war. I got on so late because went shopping for 3 hours. Bought half-life; the one that comes with all the expansion packs, and it DIDNT WORK !
McKagan
28-05-2005, 03:45
I'm in the process of boosting my number of nukes to 350!

If another one of these groups lashes out again and fires nukes at one of my allies, my nuclear subs (that WILL be in theatre) will level that country QUICK!
Aeibeiria
28-05-2005, 03:45
Tannenmille will gladly aid the contingent from Istana. A brigade of RASUSS troopers will be at the Baghdad Airport to greet them and bring them up to date on Saharan events.

thanks for the escort, Tannenmille. they will be arriving in about 24 hours:

1 C-130 with ~250 personnel, excluding the pilots
3 MiG-31 for escort (will leave immediately)
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 03:55
You know what... me too. I didn't want to say anything, though.

We can use it as a buffer zone for the people in this little coalition, and since the person that plays the country isn't around.... say hello to "Camp Saharistan"

I believe i'm going to have a new RMMC base in the theatre.

I do believe it's settled, then. Saharistan is now to be permanently divided between the coalition powers. I'll contact Ackerenia, see if he can draw up a new map of Saharistan that shows the splitting up of the DMZ between the countries. If at all possible, I'd like to have a port for my forces to use, as well as a small land corridor from there stretching to current Halberdgardian territory (whatever that might be after the map is re-drawn, no pun intended). Not to sound greedy or anything, but can I have Baghdad? It is closest to my territory, and thus would be a natural extension of Halberdgardian claims. Alternatively, we could have a set-up like post-WWII Berlin, wherein the city was wholly within Soviet territory, but the other Allies maintained their claims to it. Another option would be to declare Berlin an international city, like RL Jerusalem. But if the other coalition powers have no objections, I'd like to claim Baghdad.
Armandian Cheese
28-05-2005, 03:56
http://www.pointsoflight.com/Copper-SealWebOP2.jpg
Official Statement From Holy Emperor Armand I

"Today the government of Armandian Cheese has decided to offer the coalition of nations occupying Saharistan a deal. For long have they struggled to free a land opressed by a homicidal dictator willing to utilize weapons of mass destruction against his own people. They have sacrificed much, and the international community must step up and ease the burden they carry in reconstructing after this brutal war. Therefore, I have decided that eighty billion Supreme Armands (0.25 USD=1 Supreme Armandian) will be poured into the reconstruction of Saharistan. However, in order to make sure this money does not fall into the wrong hands, our nation requires that a small contingent of about 2,000 Armandian peacekeepers (accompanied by about 6,000 support personell) be allowed to deploy into Saharistan. Of course, none of this is mandatory. But to gain the money, you must allow the troops...That is all, and good night my mini---err, my fellow citizens."

OOC: I apologize if my meddling bothers you, but this RP seems like a good opportunity to achieve my various purposes...
McKagan
28-05-2005, 04:00
I plan on using this base as a war on terror tool.

It's another major port city for my fleet to use, and another place my nuclear subs can stop by after their little missions...
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 04:11
I plan on using this base as a war on terror tool.

It's another major port city for my fleet to use, and another place my nuclear subs can stop by after their little missions...

Roughly the same here. We also plan on bringing Halberdgardia culture and such to our regions of Saharistan, much like the 19th-century imperialist powers did in their colonies. But our occupied regions will likely be mainly used for military purposes. An FOB, if you will.
McKagan
28-05-2005, 04:14
Yup, but I believe we should all get a stake in the port city.

That way I can operate my strategic attack sub, "RMV November Rain" without having to worry about if some "jihad dude" is in the country i'm pulling into.
Tannenmille
28-05-2005, 04:16
Until Ackerenia makes a new map, I made a temporary one. Feel free to edit it as you want to expand your claims.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Bronzicus/tentativemap.gif
McKagan
28-05-2005, 04:18
I like that map... I wouldn't care if it were the permanent one myself...
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 04:21
Until Ackerenia makes a new map, I made a temporary one. Feel free to edit it as you want to expand your claims.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Bronzicus/tentativemap.gif

I agree with McKagan, we all ought to get port cities of our own, or perhaps a share in Port Stanley, or another port somewhere. Other than that, though, I think this works great. I notice that Baghdad falls within Halberdgardian territory. Thanks again.
McKagan
28-05-2005, 04:23
Halberdgardia,

Looking at the map, you're the only one without an actual port city.

Since we are official allies, i'll let you have a city on the northern coast somewhere.
Halberdgardia
28-05-2005, 04:26
Halberdgardia,

Looking at the map, you're the only one without an actual port city.

Since we are official allies, i'll let you have a city on the northern coast somewhere.

Much appreciated, McKagan. We'll establish our port in the small cove up near the northern border (see where the "bird's beak" formation is? Inside the beak, in that natural cove, is where I'm talking about).
McKagan
28-05-2005, 04:28
That's what I was thinking of.

Our naval forces can share the simple area, although we'll stay out of your way.

I like some of the formations I have on my coast, espcially on the southern border with willink.
Tannenmille
28-05-2005, 04:29
Also, since most of our supplies and such will be brought thru space-to-ground transports, you may use any port city in Tannenmillian Saharistan you wish.