NationStates Jolt Archive

IC here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8934827#post8934827

"Oh no, not another WWII RP!" you groan. "And this time it's by a noob." you add, sighing. Well, yes. You are correct. It is another WWII RP.........No, no excuses such as "this one is different". This is just another WWII RP, because some (such as myself) enjoy WWII RPs.

Some of you may look at my profile and see my 80-something posts. Obviously this is not great to have when you're trying to start an RP.

So, the RP...

The Current Story

Hitler is dead. A bomb went off when he was speaking at a tavern where he first attempted to enforce his rule. His position as leader has been replaced by Rommel, who, using his position as head of Hitler's bodyguard, has seized power. Luxembourg has a Nazi government, the Low Countries are forming an alliance and Neville Chamberlain has died, to be replaced by Lord Halifax. Russia is gaining a foothold in Scandinavia, now controlling Finland after a non-agressive invasion.

In the east, Japan is continuing its imperialist campaign into China. They now controll many Chinese port cities and a large chunk of the Chinese coastline. They are set in their goal of "liberating Asia of European rule". They are sending out threats requesting oil and are trying to maintain the alliance with Germany. China have been united under Communist rule, have allied with the Netherlands and are now attempting a re-capture of Japanese territory, with the aid of India and the Netherlands.
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Rules are the same as most other RPs. You can do all that would be possible to your country at this period of history. Do not flame or insult other players. There are no set alliances, but don't be stupid, e.g Churchill gets bored and helps Hitler. You could make a British-German alliance by having a different Prime Minister, or you could replace Hitler. But it must be feasible. Use technology available to you at the time, and I will allow new technology to be created, as long as it fits. No nukes at the beginning. NO SWEARING.

All countries of the time not listed below are currently open. Sign below. Thanks.

Countries:

USA-Cotland
UK-Cobdenia
USSR-Relative Liberty
Germany-Crazed Marines
Luxembourg-Spooty
The Netherlands-Jagonia
France-Findan
Italy-The Great Sixth Reich
Belgium-
Japan-Vineyard
Slovakia-Buben
Spain-Nebarri Prime
China-Yderia, Derrylin
Australia-Warta Endor
India-Roman Republic
Denmark-Chinkopodia
Canada-Farangordasch
Hungary-Philanchez
New Zealand-Harlesburg
Turkey-Cumany
Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia-East Lithuania
Persia-West Cedarbrook
Croatia-The Vatican Realms

Red indicates partisan or resistance factions.

I call the US of A!

Okay.

I'm going to start an IC as soon as some more people sign up.

bump

Can I be the UK?

This will be my first war RP (but not my first RP) so I may be a little slow to catch on to how it all works.

I'll be the Soviet Union

Both accepted.

Cobdenia- Don't worry, you'll be fine. It's pretty much the same as other RPs.

I'm going to take a country later, when there are some that, inevitably, will be left over. Ones generally accepted as bad.

I have to go now. Keep claiming countries, I'll update tomorrow. Guys who have signed on: there is now an IC. Check it out and, if you want, start posting.

I'll be Germany. I'll be out for a little bit, though. Ironically, I'm coming back around D-Day. I'll try and get on as much as possible.

Okay, updated. Don't worry about being away, I can fill in as I haven't claimed a major country.

I think I'm going to kill off Hitler...never did like the puke. Oh, and I want to blame France for it while allying myself with England. Cobdenia, do you mind?

Luxemburg please

The US'll rearm itself seriously, but maintain its neutrality. Untill it is attacked that is.

Cobdenia, do you mind?

Depends. I'll see how it goes when it comes to the RP.
It is quite likely that I will ally myself with you, though. It's just that I prefer to decide what I'm going to do as I go along!
Meine frau ist Deutche...

if i use a nation like Spain can i change history right? seeing as they were in a civil war during WWII and i can use American, UK, German Units if i use Spain right? last question, if its set in 1938 that means the P-51 is not made yet right?

if the first two questions are yes then im in

Yes, probably not (the Spanish Civil War ended in 1938, if memory serves), and yes it hasn't been built yet.

Cobdenia is correct. Do you want Spain then?

Luxembourg is approved.

I'm going to take the Netherlands.

i will use spain and join if i can use American, UK, German Tech because i dont know many other nations units of the time

You can only use their tech if you trade with them. Try looking up Spanish units on Google.

ok

i just cam up with that idea to so...

Do you want Spain then?

Is this going to reinacte WWII? Meaning that Germany will attack and defeat FRance?

If no no one has it I got France.

No, this is free-form RP. Hitler has just died, the year before the scheduled invasion of Poland. You can have France.

Nebarri Prime: The Spanish Civil War ends in 1939 in RL, but you could close it early in the RP.

Do you want Spain then?

Hell I`ll take Italian forces if thats A-ok?

OoC: I hope you don't mind me pointing this out, but I'm afraid I've noticed a tiny foul up in the introduction. In 1938 Rommel was only a Colonel, and became a Major-General just prior to the invasion of Poland, and wasn't a war hero until 1941. However, in 1938 he was the commander of the Führer-Begleitbattalion, Adolf Hitler's personal protection battalion, which might make it rather more interesting.

Thanks Cobdenia, wrote it in a hurry. I'll correct it.

I'd like to take Belgium please.

Hey Ollieland! I remember you as South Africa in Tenarius' RP. Sure, Belgium is yours.

When you say: "All Countries Open!" you mean all during that time right?

If that IS true...
I claim Japan. I notice how everyone has chosen Eurpoean counrties, so an Asian country would be nice to have. My own little space. By myself. Alone.....

Yes, during that time. Sorry I didn't specify.

You can have Japan, but remember that the UK, US and the Netherlands have territories in the Pacific. You are not as alone as you think.

OoC: I hope you don't mind me pointing this out, but I'm afraid I've noticed a tiny foul up in the introduction. In 1938 Rommel was only a Colonel, and became a Major-General just prior to the invasion of Poland, and wasn't a war hero until 1941. However, in 1938 he was the commander of the Führer-Begleitbattalion, Adolf Hitler's personal protection battalion, which might make it rather more interesting.
True. I guessed on his rank and everything. However, for the sake of this RP, Rommel would be next in line to Jodl because I changed Jodl's political moves. That would affect the fate of everyone around him, and I just like Rommel.

I added a poll on the RP. Yes, I know it's quite early, but this is the first RP I've made (and the first thread!) and I would like to know if it's any good.

May I have Slovakia or Bulgaria?

Definitely, which one? Both are open.

lol...Ok i'll be slovakia then, Thanks

Ok, I'll just update the lists.

Anyone else want to be a country? Don't worry, we won't bite.

Could I represent India.

Could I represent India.
That could be interesting, considering in my RP Chamberlain is dead and his replacement is currently Lord Halifax, former Viceroy of India.

Got to go now. I'll continue tommorow.

Could I represent India.
That could be interesting, considering in my RP Chamberlain is dead and his replacement is currently Lord Halifax, former Viceroy of India.

I asked for India, bro. So could I?? I always wanted since a little kid to own the entire Military Force of India and become an Indian Special Frontier Force.

May i enter the war as China?

Could I join in as Australia?

yes i want spain

and i would like to consider the civil war over

bump and can i jus say, i love this RP dude, i thought playing as Luxembourg would be real quiet, but its exactly the opposite, frikkin ossom

i just want to be able to post on the IC forum now but it will take some time

Roman Republic, you misunderstand. I was replying to your thread (I dislike the "quote" thing so I use Italics. Just my thing) and was supporting you being India.
I just thought that this history might lead itself to interesting negotiations.

Also, as an idea, how about Britain and Germany going to war with the USSR, the USA, Netherlands, France and Britain going to war with Japan; maybe Japan could invade the Phillipines (American), the Dutch East Indies, French Indo China and Australia (which many historians think they should have don instead of Pearl Harbour).

Just a thought.

Roman Republic, you misunderstand. I was replying to your thread (I dislike the "quote" thing so I use Italics. Just my thing) and was supporting you being India.
I just thought that this history might lead itself to interesting negotiations.

Also, as an idea, how about Britain and Germany going to war with the USSR, the USA, Netherlands, France and Britain going to war with Japan; maybe Japan could invade the Phillipines (American), the Dutch East Indies, French Indo China and Australia (which many historians think they should have don instead of Pearl Harbour).

Just a thought.
Me likes.

All country requests aprroved.

Cobdenia, nice idea. We'll have to see how it turns out. :)

Could I be Denmark please?

Yep, so you saw my post then Chink?

Yep...was the other link you gave another one of yours, or someone else's?

Doesn't matter, I'll message you about it.

Anyone else?

Does anyone know what weapons India used during WWII. If I use modern weapons, like the XM-8 or M1A2, that would be godmodding.

India was a member of the British Empire, and so I presume they used British weapons.

India was a member of the British Empire, and so I presume they used British weapons.

Is is possible to use American Weapons??

hey, can i be Canada?

India used British weapons, I believe:
If you want details of British weapons, try this website:
Link. Scroll to the bottom to see different weapons! (http://www.stormpages.com/garyjkennedy/Weapons/infantry_weapons_of_world_war_tw.htm)

Sweden- King Gustav V and Prime Minister Per Albin Hansson

Canada- Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King

Hungary-Admiral Miklós Horthy (interesting, considering Hungary's landlocked!)

New Zealand-Prime Minister Michael Joseph Savage and The Governor-General and Commander-in-Chief in and over New Zealand The Viscount Galway GCMG DSO OBE PC (representing the Queen)

Turkey-Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (untill Nov 1938) İsmet İnönü (after Nov 1938)

Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia-Iosif Vissarionovich Djushavilli aka Josef Stalin

Persia- Shah Reza Pahlavi

Croatia- Prince Pavle (regent) until 1941, then King Petar II (both Yugoslav)

Netherlands- Queen Wilhelmina and Prime Minister Dirk Jan de Geer (until 1939), then Prime Minister Pieter Sjoerds Gerbrandy

USA: Franklin Delano Roosevelt

UK: PM Edward Frederick Lindley Wood, 1st Earl of Halifax; better known as Lord Halifax (PM Arthur Neville Chamberlain)

USSR: Iosif Vissarionovich Djushavilli aka Josef Stalin

Germany: Colonel Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel (Adolf Hitler)

Luxembourg: Fuhrer Schmeil (HRH Grand Duchess Charlotte)

France: (President Albert Lebrun)

Italy: (Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini)

Belgium: (King Leopold III)

Japan: (Emporer Hirohito)

Czecholovakia: (Emil Hácha)

Spain: (Generalísimo Francisco Franco)

China: (Chiang Kai Shek)

Australia: Sir William Birdwood (Joseph Lyons)

India:Viceroy Krishna Patel (The Earl of Willingdon)

Denmark: Christian X

Luxembourg: (HRH Grand Duchess Charlotte)

and i thought Luxemburg was ruled by a King, thanks for the heads up, btw my leader is the Fuhrer Schmeil

hey, can i be Canada?
No. But India had a VERY nice army. it was made up of the Skih/Gurkah (i forget what it was called) warrior class of India. Now, these troops were the equals of the japanese in hand-to-hand, and they weilded special and very unique bayonetts at the time.

They used British guns, but not bayonetts. Also, India only possesed a few Americain Dakota transoprts, and that's it.

Also, to the east the civilians there were notorious at being good militia men. They formed good rifle brigades for support of the Ghurkas.

Never done an rp but love ww2...can i be Hungary?

For India. The leader's name is Viceroy Krishna Patel

Just wondering, but by any chance could I RolePlay as some coloy/territory attempting to break from some union to form my own nation? Like use guns and stuff stolen and all that? Should add some interesting side-views of the war.

Just wondering, but by any chance could I RolePlay as some coloy/territory attempting to break from some union to form my own nation?.


I dont know if buddy will let you, but perhaps you could be a break away from Yugoslavia.

You could be the British Mandate of Palestine. At the time there were calls by the Jews in Palestine for the formation of Israel (even back then)

If you want details of British weapons, try this website:
Link. Scroll to the bottom to see different weapons! (http://www.stormpages.com/garyjkennedy/Weapons/infantry_weapons_of_world_war_tw.htm)

Thanks a lot! And Gurkha's are Nepalese soldiers, Sikhs are Indian chaps :)

New Zealand please
Peter Fraser leader
Bernard Freyberg Main General.
1.6 million people.

In case you didn't know, Fraser didn't get in until 1940, we're currently 1938/9 at the moment. At this time it was Prime Minister Michael Joseph Savage.
Or do you know that and would rather be Fraser?

I going to ask you to remove me from being italy...I cant even get the time in to start posting...im in this huge war with my nation and basicly im getting fucked. If anyone want to help...they can by going to my thread A cry for help. Thank you for you time...sorta.

All countries approved. Nerotika is no longer Italy.

India used British weapons, I believe:
If you want details of British weapons, try this website:
Link. Scroll to the bottom to see different weapons! (http://www.stormpages.com/garyjkennedy/Weapons/infantry_weapons_of_world_war_tw.htm)

I also think it would be worthwhile writing down the names of the National Leaders as per the RP. RL leaders at the time in brackets

USA: Franklin Delano Roosevelt

UK: PM Edward Frederick Lindley Wood, 1st Earl of Halifax; better known as Lord Halifax (PM Arthur Neville Chamberlain)

USSR: (Iosif Vissarionovich Djushavilli aka Josef Stalin)

Germany: Colonel Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel (Adolf Hitler)

Luxembourg: Fuhrer Schmeil (HRH Grand Duchess Charlotte)

France: (President Albert Lebrun)

Italy: (Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini)

Belgium: (King Leopold III)

Japan: (Emporer Hirohito)

Czecholovakia: (Emil Hácha)

Spain: (Generalísimo Francisco Franco)

China: (Chiang Kai Shek)

Australia: Sir William Birdwood (Joseph Lyons)

India:Viceroy Krishna Patel (The Earl of Willingdon)

Denmark: Christian X

If you don't have a name outside of brackets, it's because I've forgetten what you've used or you haven't posted a national leader yet. If you are using the name in brackets, let me know so I can remove them.


You forgot the Netherlands!! Hendrikus Colijn is our Prime Minister, was in RL too.

does anyone here know if China was Bolshevik back in 1938?

I don't really have time for this RP right now. So if someone would like to take over teh USA, be my guest. I've got exam in a week, so I've got to study :(

Sorry guys.

No worries. I have exams too. :( I can reserve USA for you for afterwards, if you want.

does anyone here know if China was Bolshevik back in 1938?

China was split into Communist and Nationalist at this time, but in this RP Communist seized the opportunity when the Nationlists were weakened by the Japanese, and now China is solely Communist.

China was split into Communist and Nationalist at this time, but in this RP Communist seized the opportunity when the Nationlists were weakened by the Japanese, and now China is solely Communist.I feel like laughing.
The Nationalist forces and communists were united during the war on japan. At the end of they war, they resumed fighting. But by then, the Communists had the upper hand.

Unless you are referring to this RP's fictional history.

Well, what really happened is that, while the nationalist, under Chiang Kai Shek, and the communist, under Mao Tse Tung, under Mao Tse Tung, in reality the Communists held of fighting, bided their time for the return to Civil War after WWII. The nationalists engages the Japanese, but the communists didn't; this lead to the victory of the communists over the nationalists in 1948. The nationalists were destroyed by the Japanese and couldn't fight Mao.

In a nutshell!

Can I be Sweden or Poland if it's still not takne

Italy, please.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/Ita-CV33-Mussolini.jpg

I feel like laughing.
The Nationalist forces and communists were united during the war on japan. At the end of they war, they resumed fighting. But by then, the Communists had the upper hand.

Unless you are referring to this RP's fictional history.

Read my post again. Especially the wrods "in this RP".

Italy confirmed. Poland and Sweden are still available, which one do you want?

so who is running the USA right now

Can I be Turkey?

Would it be alright to control the Lithuanian, Estonian, and Latvian partisons although the USSR is taken?

Turkey and Partisan factions confirmed.

USA is now temporarily open, until Cotland's exams are finished.

Would it be alright to control the Lithuanian, Estonian, and Latvian partisons although the USSR is taken?
It would surely add some depth and spice to my role, so please do.

Sign me up for Iran (Reza Shah).

OOC: I may be busy for a while with RL stuff.
IC: I'll be busy westernizing the place and keeping an eye on England, India (which included Pakistan at the time), and the Soviet Union.

qeustion for Nebbari Prime, are you under the rule of Franco, or other?

In case you didn't know, Fraser didn't get in until 1940, we're currently 1938/9 at the moment. At this time it was Prime Minister Michael Joseph Savage.
Or do you know that and would rather be Fraser?
Yeah i knew he wasnt at the time but i never remember him as he died.

So i guess if i was in i would be led/lead by/with Savage.

Look out for the Semple Tank!

West Cedarbrook: Accepted.

Harlesburg: You have been accepted, and you can have any character as PM, as long as you give an explanation as to how he replaced the RL PM.

West Cedarbrook: You have been listed as Persia, this is Iran, just it wasn't called Iran yet.

For everyone:
I've just produced this rough map of the World and the empires of the time with alterations as per the RP.
Map of the world with Empires as per RL and RP (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/JimRad-Mac/BE.gif)

I've ignored small countries or countries without empires.
I was mainly focusing on the situation in the Far East

Can I be Croatia.

I'm afraid to say that I am very busy with work at the moment and I'm involved with a few RPs already, so i won't be able to devote enough time to this one. Consider Belgium vacant again. Sorry to let anyone down.

ima be out at a party for a few days, i need someone to look after Luxembourg, dont do anything i wouldnt, Eg. kill Schmeil, Declare war, kill Viktor, make Schmeil/Viktor kill the Luxembourg population, etc

I think this rp needs a Germany....

Anyone know what happened to him?

Usefull Comparisons but divisional strength is incorrect (http://www.angelfire.com/ct/ww2europe/stats.html)

What??? Im gettin pissed off with u tearing apart everything. Those posts are alliance and war talks, what have they got to do with you somehow getting my communications network and decrypting encrypted telegrams not even sent to Bejing. And i did reply to several of them but you kept responding with "superior force" even though i had imported technologies! You know as well as i do it wouldnt go like that, you just dont like thte thought that you might not win!!!
I apologise. I have maintained a cool head during this entire thing, But, this idiocity has to stop.

YDERIA:
You had said some BS that your war offices were really in another city.
I didn't "get" your communications, I cut them off. i said I massed planes against the radio stations, and I had cut all wires leading into and from Beijing. Why capture a telegram or radio station if they can't even send messages?

Ok. You have imported technology. And you mean to tell me that you have built and used this technology in the matter of days!?!

Indian and Dutch technology is only a little better than yours. i mean for christ's sake, both india and the Dutch had to rely on British and Americain imported weapons (mostly) so what ever military technology they gave you would be minimal.

Listen, im TRYING to enjoy this RP. But somewhere between the Samurai Weilding Elite chinese soldiers and the magical teleportation of the war offices to some random city, I have lost my patience.

I would Looove to say fck off noob, but he has to learn to RP somewhere i guess... :rolleyes:

im wonderin if there will be anything to get the Europeon nations invloved... besides sending troops to China.

I was hoping that the USSR would do something dodgy, and the UK nearly went to war with Italy. But they called off at the last minute...
Cowards! (Just kidding)

im wonderin if there will be anything to get the Europeon nations invloved... besides sending troops to China.

Don't worry. Italy's going to kick everybody's.... :)

(We need time to get our infastructure up. Should be done by the end of the RL day.)

Commandant General Yang Dezhi stood on the podium in the recently converted Curia House. It used to be the council chamber of Lhasa City, but despirate times call for despirate measures.
That guy is in Beijing. My troops had completely surrounded beijing. How did he get out of beijing? Why didn't you Rp this occuring?

That is complete Bull Shit. i have already shown everyone the evidence of him being in beijing, along with the war offices. Then they magically teleport to Lhasa City?That is a long way to go.

Before you start saying that he moved there before my troops encircled the city, he was sending out telegrams out of Beijing long after I had surrounded it. Plus, the distance between the 2 cites is like going from Washington DC to New Mexico.

You have to Rp these things.

I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. He should have RP'ed the evacuation of his war offices, but he didn't realise he needed to. Lets just assume he did.
Just don't do it again!

Thanks for the support. I was really disorientated at the start not understanding the concept of the RP or the exact time/military status. It wont happen again. Did you get my apology yesterday Vineyard?

Has anyone seen Relative Liberty lately?

Has anyone seen Relative Liberty lately?I blame my teachers for giving me tons of homework.

Does anyone mind if I were to RP unclaimed Empire countries, such as South Africa, Iraq and Egypt? It might come in handy later!

..which is a load of Bull. If Yderia intended to RP the evacuation of his war offices, why has he still sending telegrams out of beijing long after i surrounded it!?

Please refrain from giving him any more cues to follow.

I dont have enough time to check the forums any more because of work and swim team so i am cedeing my country to the ussr...post to come

w00t Spooties back from his party and no-one touched his country :D

qeustion for Nebbari Prime, are you under the rule of Franco, or other?

sorry i havnt been looking at this thread much

but for now Franco im planing to change it later

also i will be gone for most of the next three days

Okay- Vineyard and Yderia, please, PLEASE, P L E A S E stop your arguing. I agree that both of you have done rash actions, and calm discussion, or creative criticism is fine but KEEP COOL. And please stop swearing. Zero tolerance for that. Any more swearing, and I am kicking you out.

All countries accepted/cleared. In response to an earlier post, Germany is out for a while. When he first signed up he said this, so no replacement action etc. will take place. He said that he would be back around D-Day. (Ironically.)

Cobdenia: Sure, RP unclaimed Empire countries. But if, and when, they are claimed you must stop.

Cobdenia: Sure, RP unclaimed Empire countries. But if, and when, they are claimed you must stop.

Certainly!

Relative Liberty: Sorry to seem Vineyardian, but Stalin would have been unlikely to invade Sweden. He only invaded Finland and Poland as they were historically part of Russia, and had nothing to do with spreading capitalism. Evem the Communisation of Eastern Europe after WWII was to protect the USSR from invasion from Germany.
The reason why Stalin wouldn't have done it is because he believed in creating a self sufficient Communist nation (the USSR) which was formed of all historically Russian areas. Trotsky, though, believed in spreading communism, which is why he was exiled and eventually killed in Mexico Cityin 1940. Basically, what you are suggesting to do is rather Troskyite, and therefore Stalin wouldn't have done it.
Of course, Stalin could have a change of heart. After all, nobody would question him and survive!

Relative Liberty: Sorry to seem Vineyardian, but Stalin would have been unlikely to invade Sweden. He only invaded Finland and Poland as they were historically part of Russia, and had nothing to do with spreading capitalism. Evem the Communisation of Eastern Europe after WWII was to protect the USSR from invasion from Germany.
The reason why Stalin wouldn't have done it is because he believed in creating a self sufficient Communist nation (the USSR) which was formed of all historically Russian areas. Trotsky, though, believed in spreading communism, which is why he was exiled and eventually killed in Mexico Cityin 1940. Basically, what you are suggesting to do is rather Troskyite, and therefore Stalin wouldn't have done it.
Of course, Stalin could have a change of heart. After all, nobody would question him and survive!Don't read this unless you want a major spoiler in Soviet politics.
Or someone might be sending telegrams in his name while plotting to kill him.

Hmm...That could be interesing. Perhaps you could work out a way that Trotsky is invited back and becomes leader, leading to a lot of bloodshed and some excellent RP possibilities...

Hmm...That could be interesing. Perhaps you could work out a way that Trotsky is invited back and becomes leader, leading to a lot of bloodshed and some excellent RP possibilities...
Are you reading my mind Cobdenia :mad:

The number your thinking of is 7...

The number your thinking of is 7...
OOC: Oh, and here I were thinking it was 3,141592.

Lol. Hey, tomorrow I probably won't be able to be on. I know it's only a day, but you know what Vineyard and Yderia are like!! I'm gonna leave you two (Cobdenia and Relative Liberty) in charge, since you two are the most responsible. Please make sure that everyone follows the rules. Oh and Cobdenia, it would be a great help if you could put together a new, updated leader list (including me this time. The Netherlands is very important). I will fit it into the intro when I return. No worries if you're too busy though.

Sure mate, hope I won't let you down.

Okay, will do!

I think that what we need is a large war in Europe to distract of the whole Yderia/Vineyard debacle; I've decided not to get involved and let them try and kill each other with insults instead. I might ally myself with Sweden when you come back, so as to make it more interesting

RL: 3,141592; you're not by any chance a maths student from Continental Europe, are you?

um... Jagonia... Yu-Jyo wants to sign up... since Turkey was left... and i sorta changed my mind about Rpin it... unless Relative Liberty wants to take turkey... Yu-Jyo wants to know if she could rp it?

RL: 3,141592; you're not by any chance a maths student from Continental Europe, are you?I'm a fifteen year old boy from Sweden.

EL: Sure, as long as he doesn't godmod.

she won't... im good friends with her, and best friends with her brother... so i have my ways of making sure she doesn't godmod :D

she won't... im good friends with her, and best friends with her brother... so i have my ways of making sure she doesn't godmod :D
Then she's welcome. Hope she'll enjoy it.

ok... so about the invasion i posted b4 we heard about the day long break... do we leave it and wait for him?

ok... so about the invasion i posted b4 we heard about the day long break... do we leave it and wait for him?
You mean the invasion of Sweden? In that case, I think we should leave it until he gets back or someone else wants to rp as the Swedish defensive forces.

Ooh, I'm good!
(Pi gave away you're studying maths, and the fact you used 3,1415... gave away you're from continental Europe, as Britons and Americans and most non-European countries would say 3.1415...; full stop (.) instead of a comma.
I should become a detective! ;)

Ooh, I'm good!
(Pi gave away you're studying maths, and the fact you used 3,1415... gave away you're from continental Europe, as Britons and Americans and most non-European countries would say 3.1415...; full stop (.) instead of a comma.
I should become a detective! ;)
Most fiteen year old boys study math as it's compulsory. And 3. 1415 looks silly.

3.4<insert random numbers here> is what americans use!

Can anyone tell me who's allied with who right now? Cause I'm lost.

Can anyone tell me who's allied with who right now? Cause I'm lost.

Germany and UK are the only formal allies I know of.

Germany and UK are the only formal allies.

Thank You! ;)

Hi everyone. I have to go in 30 mins, but I have a tiny amount of time for today. Where is this Sweden invasion thing? I need to check it out.

Britain and Netherlands are also in a mutual defence pact, and I think we can safely assume that India, Canada, the UK, New Zealand and Australia are allies.
India and China are also semi-allied ("The Tea Alliance"?!), as are Britain and China/
Germany never actually responded to my calls for an alliance (he doesn't seem to be RPing at the moment) but seeing as he suggested an alliance on this thread (OoC), and I merely proposed formalising it in the IC thread, I think we can safely assume that he would have accepted it by now.

I am also allied with China.

Italy confirmed. Poland and Sweden are still available, which one do you want?

Sweden

3.4<insert random numbers here> is what americans use!
No, no. I am 15 and I live in the USA. new York to be exact. AND NO WE ARE NOT FAT PIGS. Unlike the french.

ANYHOW, we use commas also. But its more like 3,241

We use . for decimals such as 24.2

Oh, and I hear Europenas get it easy. You guys have about a month more vacation time and not as much Home Work. lucky.....

can somone clear some stuff up for me, when did i send propoganda to Belgium? and also why is Belgium coming to attack me, another thing the Netherlands are attacking me for sending propoganda that i didnt send, GAH!

Palixia: Just so you're up to speed, as Jagonia has previously been Rping Sweden;
The Soviet Union (and the Baltic States) are invading you, and I (Britain) have offered an alliance with you. I've assumed your going to use the RL leaders names of the time, which are posted on this thread somewhere (page 4 I think)

Spooty: Belgium isn't attacking you, I don't know where that came from. You sort of spewed propaganda to all countries after Hitler's death, so I am using this as an excuse to invade Belgium. Basically, I want more territory and are using your Nazi views to get it.

Cobdenia: For the leader list: My PM isn't Dirk Jan de Geer, he became PM in 1939. I am using Hendrikus Colijn.

WoW!
Whats the story with Germany and the UK?

I think Luxemburg will see how good out offer is once Belgium attacks

ima getting a bit worried that the whole world is turning their conquesting eyes onto me

howdy all. nice RP going on (when you RP) :p

a few notes, i would like to add:
japan - be careful when u fight India, as they were your allies in the war. Well not India in itself, as in the one governed by the British, BUT the freedom fighters who wished to liberate India from colonial rule. During WWII There were Indian troops who fought alongside Germany and Japan in hopes of being freed from colonial (British) rule once the fighting finished.

China - It is interesting to note you suddenly move troops and all, and ask to become part of another nation. But do you understand the repercussions of your actions???? Do you think the chinese people would have accepted foreign rule? I want you to go look up the Boxer Rebellion to refresh your mind, and the attitute of the chinese to the barbarious foreign devils. SUPPOSING Britain did take you under its rule, dont you think they would just kill you off and take over your land? Remeber that there was a lot of aminiosty between the two, especially with Britain taking over Chinese land. Its a bad idea for a nation to ask for another soverign nation to take it under its wing, especially when it is one the size of China. Be a bit more creative bro, you can do much better than that. I agree with JAPAN's suggestion for Chinese troops to wage gureilla warfare against it. remember tthat Chinese troops have WAY more expeirence when it comes to mountainous warefare compared to other nation in the region (apart form India, Nepal amongst some). Especially in the mountains where Lhasa is located. Also the chinese forces have an advantage due to the fact they are under-trained, thus they wont have much supports like tanks and APC (Armoured Personal Carriers), etc, while the japs would. Realistically it would be vey hard, nigh impossible for a vehicle to move on a pass that has just enough room for troops to walk in double file. This would mean they cant use these advantages in this specific region. This will bring down their numbers and supports. Also Jap air support will also be limited. Its very hard to target troops wearing white in mountainous regions where there is a lot of snow. Also if they do bombard, they will only block of passages for themselves (there can be occasions where this can be done tho). So it will all come down to highly trained, well armed and disciplened Japanese troops with no other support, against a rat tag motely bunch of conscripts with minimal training, but a fervour to defend their nation from foreign invasion and who else have local terrain knowledge.

In a war, it not what you have or how much of it you have, but what INTELLIGENCE you have of the event taking place. eg. a highly sophisticated and well armed army invading a regionwithout prior knowledge walks into a ambush with land mines strewn everywhere :p *hint* *hint* <-- to China ;)


Soo.... after all this.... do you guys have a place for a free nation or even a newly formed one to enter in the Asian region?? :p hehehehheehe

Britain and Netherlands are also in a mutual defence pact, and I think we can safely assume that India, Canada, the UK, New Zealand and Australia are allies.
India and China are also semi-allied ("The Tea Alliance"?!), as are Britain and China/
Germany never actually responded to my calls for an alliance (he doesn't seem to be RPing at the moment) but seeing as he suggested an alliance on this thread (OoC), and I merely proposed formalising it in the IC thread, I think we can safely assume that he would have accepted it by now.

dont forget Spain is allies with Japan, Italy, and USSR

My PM isn't Dirk Jan de Geer, he became PM in 1939. I am using Hendrikus Colijn.

I thought we'd being going a week and had reached 1939...
Anyhoo, the new chaps using de Greer...

just wondering... what time is it in the RP? 1939, 1940... what? I'm tryin to find out technolagy the USSR has at this point... and what still needs to be built

well it started 1938, but we seem to have been at 1938 for a very long time, i dunno if the date has changed, Jagonia'll know

No, no. I am 15 and I live in the USA. new York to be exact. AND NO WE ARE NOT FAT PIGS. Unlike the french.

ANYHOW, we use commas also. But its more like 3,241

We use . for decimals such as 24.2

Oh, and I hear Europenas get it easy. You guys have about a month more vacation time and not as much Home Work. lucky.....

No, no, no. Maybe you didn't understand it. He's talking about decimal points:

In some countries, you would write Pi as "3.14".

In other countries, you would write Pi as "3,14".

The last would be considered gramtically incorrect in the US.

But for grouping symbols:

In some countries, you would write "333,333".

In other countries, you would write "333 333".

Both are correct in the US, although the first is more common, with the latter being reserved for science in most cases.

3 questions

1. who are the CCCP that Palaxia refers to in a recent IC post
2. wheres Jagonia, things are hotting up in Belgium
3. i cant remember

3 questions

1. who are the CCCP that Palaxia refers to in a recent IC post
2. wheres Jagonia, things are hotting up in Belgium
3. i cant remember

1. CCCP? isn't it CCCR either way he is refering to the USSR
2. dont ask me
3. i dont know what you where thinking so im sorry but i cant tell you

1. CCCP? isn't it CCCR either way he is refering to the USSR
2. dont ask me
3. i dont know what you where thinking so im sorry but i cant tell you

muchos thankees, i still cant remember but thats oki i probably wasnt that important

ok he/she did type CCCP but it is still more or less the USSR

ok i went threw some stuff and i think this is about what the sides will be if the war was fullblown right now

side 1:

UK
India
China
Swedan
The Netherlands
either France or Germany
mabey the USA
mabey New Zealand
mabey Canada
mabey Australia


side 2:

USSR
Italy
Japan
Spain
Persia
Coratia
Luxembourg
either France or Germany

this is set up this way because

Japan attacked China and they are allied with India and The Netherlands India is in the UK's Empire. the USSR is attacking Swedan who is being helped by the UK. Italy, Coratia, and Spain are allied with Japan or at least friendly. Persia and Spain are Friendly or allied with the USSR. as for Luxembourg arn't the going to be fighting The Netherlands soon? and for the ones that are mabeys. New Zealand, Canada, and Australia may just join the UK do to the fact they were British colenys (i think New Zealand was if not they were France right?) and Germany will either side with the UK as stated earlier or with Japan, Italy, and Spain. but im sure Germany will almost definetly be fighting France. as for the USA well they were friends with the UK. Hungary and Denmark i dont know much about same for Slovakia and Turkey join the USSR in this RP. so any other nations im forgeting?

I thought we'd being going a week and had reached 1939...
Anyhoo, the new chaps using de Greer...

The new guy is Sweden. I am still the Netherlands.

TO ALL: IT WILL BE 1939 ON MONDAY!!

My PM is Hendrikus Colijn. :)

ok i just looked up a websight that says the spanish fleet was the 7th or 8th biggest fleet in 1935-1939 so who are the bigger fleets i think the next nation are the next biggest fleets (not in order) and if im rong correct me please (it would also be nice if someone placed them in order for me)

Japan
UK
USA
USSR
France
Italy
Germany
Spain

is it too late to join? if not can i be greece?

I think that this is what it was the order.
UK
USA
Japan
Germany
France
Italy
USSR
Spain

UK was definately number one at this time, and was only surpassed by the US in 1942.

remember can u make me greece please!!!!!!!!!!!

please

Scnarf = Greece

Since this seems too far in to fix the thing about Croatia, I was wondering if I could join as Romania.

Jagonia - can you sign me up for Ireland? They actually were a 'disputed' member of the British Commonwealth at this time.

scnarf requests you make it greece, please oh wonderfull dude who starts this.

please, i would really like to be greece :)



i know ive done this alot but i really want to be greece

scnarf requests you make it greece, please oh wonderfull dude who starts this.

please, i would really like to be greece :)



i know ive done this alot but i really want to be greece

i don't think he has been on for mabey a few days. could be rong though

any weapons help i would be able to give people can post up if they want or army numbers...... etc

any weapons help i would be able to give people can post up if they want or army numbers...... etc

Spanish army number from late 1939 would be nice

In 1936 the Spanish Army had two distinct forces: The Peninsular Army and the Army of Africa. The Peninsular Army had 8,851 officers and 112,228 men.


The Army of Africa was considered to be superior to the Peninsular Army. It consisted of those Spanish Army units based in Morocco. In 1936 the force numbered 34,047 men and was composed of regular Spanish Army units and the Spanish Foreign Legion.

Cobdenia or Relative Liberty - can you guys approve the addition of a few other countries in Jagonia's absence (no response on some requests for a couple of days)?

Here are what's been requested:
Greece - Scnarf
Rumania - Slavic Byzantium
Ireland - Mithromir

If 1939 started this week things I would expect things to begin to heat up on the mainland (especially when/if Germany gets going) and we're losing mobilisation time.

Other thoughts -
I think Jagonia questioned what tech was available for the Netherlands early on in the IC thread. I seemed to remember that during the interwar period the German war industry moved a lot of production into neighbouring subsidiaries (Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Spain, etc) so the Dutch could realistically take advantage of some (not all) early German miltary technology. Here's a link with more info on that: http://www.maebrussell.com/Articles%20and%20Notes/Inspection%20For%20Disarmament.html

I'd also recommend that the Vatican Realms begin to function as Yugoslavia rather than Croatia for the sake of historical continuity. Just my 2 cents.

where has Jagonia gone?!

i need him to RP fighting in Belgium

:mp5: :headbang: Belgium is World Power United :sniper: :gundge:
Country = Xeronano

I think Jagonia questioned what tech was available for the Netherlands early on in the IC thread. I seemed to remember that during the interwar period the German war industry moved a lot of production into neighbouring subsidiaries (Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Spain, etc) so the Dutch could realistically take advantage of some (not all) early German miltary technology.

well i have somethings for him (stats are rounded and its limmited stuff but i have a few stats for 4 ships and 1 plane)

stats for ships are speed weapons and lenght(for most)

Jacob Van Heemskerck class battleship (about 30 years old)
Lenght: N?A
2-9in guns
6-6in guns
6-3in guns
4-1in guns
Speed: 16 knots

De Ruyter class cruiser
Lenght: 168m
7-6in guns
10-40mm guns
8- .50 cal MGs
Speed: 32 knots

Tromp class cruiser
Lenght: 132m
6-6in guns
4-40mm guns
4- .50 cal MGs
6-21in Torperdo Launchers
Speed: 32 knots

Java class cruiser
Lenght: 155m
10-6in guns
6-40mm guns
6-12.7mm guns
Speed: 30 knots

Aircraft:

Douglas(or D) 8a-3n
Speed: 260mph
Ceiling: 29,600ft
range: 910 miles
weapons: 4 fixed .30 cal MGs 1 trainable and 1200lbs of bombs

Cobdenia or Relative Liberty - can you guys approve the addition of a few other countries in Jagonia's absence (no response on some requests for a couple of days)?

Here are what's been requested:
Greece - Scnarf
Rumania - Slavic Byzantium
Ireland - MithromirI, in the absence on Jagonia and Cobdenia, welcome you to join.

Welcome mates! Enjoy the fun and leave Soviet alone ;)

Are all countries taken now, or are there any more you have forgotten about that I could be, I would be happy to be a resistance faction.

OOC: i think you could be

Panama, Brazil, Argentina, Switzerland(sp?) many others...

I think this rp needs a Germany....

Anyone know what happened to him?
Yeah...I was out of town for the past 15 days. Please tell me I still have it as I want a war and need a recap.

nice to see you back man, your country is still standing.

i can only recap events near me so here goes

Belgium begain to riot with pro Nazi's and so the Netherlands marched in and quelled the resistance, I marched into Belgium because of the mutual protection act i held with Belgium.

the Netherlands are supplying the Bolshevic nations and i have asked for help in stopping them.

and i sent a telegram for a pact of non-agression.

oh, you still have it... and my nation has been trying to get some stuff from you i will post it here so you dont have to look for it and so i dont have to post stuff on the IC forum that i could post here anyway

what Spain wants is

500 HE-115
500 JU 87 Stuka
500 Fw 200 Condor
the right to make there own Bf-109s
a Bismarck Battleship (Spain will give the Metal needed they just want you to make it or give them the Stats so they can make it themselfs)

In short: The situation in Europe is pretty much fucked up and it ain't better in Asia, Mexico's going down the drain but everything else is pretty quiet.

Cobdenia - I sent you a telegram, can you take a look when you get a sec?

(i am actually Spooty, im his puppet)

i have a question, ive seen (sp?) be used in this thread ans in the IC thread but what does it mean?

(i am actually Spooty, im his puppet)

i have a question, ive seen (sp?) be used in this thread ans in the IC thread but what does it mean?
That you didn't do your homwork and needs to be punsished by gnomes wielding very large tomatoes. You are unsure of the spelling of a word.

(i am actually Spooty, im his puppet)

i have a question, ive seen (sp?) be used in this thread ans in the IC thread but what does it mean?
*IC means "in character"--what happens there is what happens in the RP
*OOC means "out-of character"--its basically being back stage working out all the kinks in a script before if is put on film. What's said there is not final, but can land you into trouble because ooc means you're not "acting" about what you're saying (to or about people mainly). You can get away with "Ic insulting" someone, because its part of the game. "OOC insulting" means you really mean it. OOC is not part of the game...its the backstage or sidelines of RP games.

i know what IC OOC means i was just asking about (sp?) i had never seen it before

d'oh...my bad. (sp?) and variations thereof means you're unsure of the spelling of a word you type. This was much more common before in-forum spellcheckers were existant and MS Word was not as widespread. The poster (me) would usually post it quickly then use the response time to find and correct the word before it was apparent to everybody. Now its a lot simpler since most put all their posts through MS Word and hit F7.

Next. Jagonia, could you please remove the poll feature from Ic thread. Its usually reserved for the ooc threads (to my knowlege) and takes away from the IC thread.

Third. If you would look back at the first few posts in this thread you will see that all war-fightings are to have a seperate thread and that the ooc thread is more or less a diplomacy/HQ thread while the other ic threads are more or less like the front lines linked back to the main war (main ic thread). It makes things much more simple as well as not offending/annoying those who are just scanning for general trends and happenings rather than just wanting to see the war in each graphic detail.

We need to turn this up a notch and get the heavyweights into business. Where's France? US? Where's the international outrage at the invasion of Sweden? Or regards the (improbable) invasion of Switzerland? I would have thought that a serious violation of the Monroe Doctrine by both Japan and Spain would have the US stirred up as well.

Cobdenia - at this point the IRA are still 'freedom fighters' (Ireland was only freed of British rule in 1920) and I don't think that they were being financed by US interests very much then as well (although your comments clearly became applicable later).

(im Spooty)

IRA'd have Luxembourg funding, i sent a telegram in the IC thread but no-one responded

Are the sinups still open?

If so I want to either be the USSR or The Japanese empire.

you can still join but the USSR and Japan are taken. you should look at the front page to see what has been taken

to add to that the USA is considered open entil whoever it was that plays him comes back

Hmm, ok, can I be Mexico then?

WAIT! NO! BRAZIL :D


Wait... ok I got it:

I want to be Mexico, and our first action prior to comming out of a solitary state will be to invade Brazil.

Is this ok?

I can tell you that South America, if united stood to do quite well as a power. Together the nations would have the resources, the manpower, the money etc to do quite well. Perhaps becoming Brazil or another one of the more powerful SA nations and taking over all of Sa would be an interesting thing with major powers intervening.

I recommend getting Hearts of Iron 2. A fully realistic (including army/air/naval size and type of units) game spanning 95% of the world (doesn't incluede antarctica and parts of the far north but goes north of Scandinavia, stops about halfway up GReenland) starting in 1936 and ending december 48. You can play as any nation that existed at the time. Thing cna go almsot historically, or become quite weird. Germany annexed in 38, Japan a puppet state of the US in 43, Russia beaten by Germany, UK invaded, Italy becoming the most powerful fascist state, what have you. It's a neat thing that would show you what sort of things can happen.

I can tell you that South America, if united stood to do quite well as a power. Together the nations would have the resources, the manpower, the money etc to do quite well. Perhaps becoming Brazil or another one of the more powerful SA nations and taking over all of Sa would be an interesting thing with major powers intervening.

I recommend getting Hearts of Iron 2. A fully realistic (including army/air/naval size and type of units) game spanning 95% of the world (doesn't incluede antarctica and parts of the far north but goes north of Scandinavia, stops about halfway up GReenland) starting in 1936 and ending december 48. You can play as any nation that existed at the time. Thing cna go almsot historically, or become quite weird. Germany annexed in 38, Japan a puppet state of the US in 43, Russia beaten by Germany, UK invaded, Italy becoming the most powerful fascist state, what have you. It's a neat thing that would show you what sort of things can happen.

Gah, I have that game. ^_^

I dont really play it though, kind of confusing.

Hmm, ok, can I be Mexico then?

WAIT! NO! BRAZIL :D


Wait... ok I got it:

I want to be Mexico, and our first action prior to comming out of a solitary state will be to invade Brazil.

Is this ok?

well..the first thing would to beet Japan back in this case Japan is invading Mexico

So can I be Mexico or not?

Cobdenia - I like it, well done. One correction, the Irish Free State as such ceased to exist after 1937. It was known as Eire or Ireland thereafter. I think in the 50s they started to refer to it as the Republic of Ireland.

So can I be Mexico or not?

i don't know ask Cobdenia

ok i'm trying to find out what the sides are best i can tell it like this

USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Netherlands
Iran

UK
Germany
Sweden

Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
----------------------------------

if there are any i forgot tell me and what group they will most likly be with and some i have given different names to (i cant spell them or i don't remember what its called). also correct any that you think should be on a different side.

I can tell you that South America, if united stood to do quite well as a power. Together the nations would have the resources, the manpower, the money etc to do quite well. Perhaps becoming Brazil or another one of the more powerful SA nations and taking over all of Sa would be an interesting thing with major powers intervening.

Brazil would be cool and i would like to see Portugal. we need more people...

ok i'm trying to find out what the sides are best i can tell it like this

USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Netherlands
Iran

UK
Germany
Sweden

Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
----------------------------------

if there are any i forgot tell me and what group they will most likly be with and some i have given different names to (i cant spell them or i don't remember what its called). also correct any that you think should be on a different side.
Due to my alliance with Spain, USSR would most likely be forced to side with Japan in the coming World War (if it ever comes).

1) Who's France
2) Where are they on the alliance chart? I kinda got lost after i had to read 400+ posts yesterday.
3) I want to allign with France, did they respond?

(remember Spooty)

i sent a telegram to France a while back, they responded that they would "never ally with a fascist country" or somthing to that effect, also France hasn't been on for ages, and also somthing else

(So, what is open?)

(So, what is open?)

Most of South America, Portugal, Switzerland, Cuba, Norway based on activety France and the USA should be open.

from what i know Belgium is open its just under attack from the Netherlands and being defended by Luxembourg

I'll take Belgium and a quick overview.

Vineyard,

Your post RPing Swiss defenses is too inaccurate and exagerated. Do I even have to explain why?!

ok i'm trying to find out what the sides are best i can tell it like this

USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Netherlands
Iran

UK
Germany
Sweden

Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
----------------------------------

if there are any i forgot tell me and what group they will most likly be with and some i have given different names to (i cant spell them or i don't remember what its called). also correct any that you think should be on a different side.


dont forget me, im greece, can i be with yugoslavia? the last group

ok this is how it might look if Japan and the USSR agree to fight together

UK
Germany
Sweden
Netherlands

USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Iran
Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
greece

---------------------------------

if they do not it might look like this

UK
Germany
Sweden
Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
greece

Netherlands
USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Iran

if anyone sees anything wrong with this please tell me

Agree with Sixth Reich, Vineyard stop attacking uncontrolled nations... I know it's been frustrating dealing with the China issue but maintain some modicum of realism (Japan is spreading like the plague - read 'Japans War' for more info on the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere).

And I've seen no response from the UK on Australia's overtures towards Japan (could be secret at this point -- or Oz is jerking with Japan).

OOC:

1) we've been producing since 1932. Its now 1941. Germany has had enough time to build all of them domestically, and the steel imports had only been cut off for 2 years, so we're still in good shape. Also, when did Switzerland get invaded? I must have lost it in the chaos of 450 posts to sift through.

2) I thought we banned atomic weapons...and the nuclear submarine is unfeasable for this time because German research was the best in the world, yet still couldn't sustain a controlled fission reaction until May 1945. So I'm going to dispute/ignore the nuclear sub.

3) I know what SIC is, but it was a Top Secret IC so I labelled it as such.
1, The Germans didn't have very good quality on their steel, this rp started 1936 and I haven't seen you roleplaying the upgrade of your industries.

2, Atomic weapons are banned, atomic weapons=nukes. A nuclear submarine is a submarine powered by a nuclear reactor, a nuclear sub =/= a nuke. The Germans were aiming at a short war, and the development for nuclear weapons was not given sufficient funding until very late in the war. Their attempts were also hampered by the Allies.

3, I meant the part about you knowing that Trotsky was in the Soviet Union.

oh oh Lux. had a good steel industry in this time, or from what ive read they did.

oh oh Lux. had a good steel industry in this time, or from what ive read they did.
Think that's correct, though it's hardly enough to support the fifteen year war of attrition that would follow an attack on the Soviet Russia.

RL, about advancing in technologys, since the Russians have yet to design the T-72, when will it happen? Im just wonderin if your going to have your military designers come up with it and everything, or is there by any chance another USSR commerce can give the plans to the USSR party?

RL, about advancing in technologys, since the Russians have yet to design the T-72, when will it happen? Im just wonderin if your going to have your military designers come up with it and everything, or is there by any chance another USSR commerce can give the plans to the USSR party?
I am currently doing some research to make sure that the development of some weapons would be realistic, I will post major scientifical breakthroughs such as the invention of the nuclear submarine, the production of new weapons and tanks, although I will not post things such as ''development of the 120th 7.92mm bullet to the newly formed 128th squad of the...''. So go ahead.

well the first T-54 Prodo-type was made in 1946

RUSSIA! Russia had to steal nucklear technology from america for christ's sakes! Also, by the time Russia was invaded, they were caught off guard. they hand't yet modernized, and most of their tank batallions rode horses. Pathetic, no? Although you can start modernicing (and I see that you have begun in your secret IC posts) I seriously doubt you can have Nuclear tech developed during war while you are modernizing your army at full speed in the face of a English-german assult. then again... you DO have more than enough material and factories with the conquest of sweden...
1. Russia was caught off guard mainly because of Stalin's purges amongst the officers, and his inability to grasp the idea of a Germany invading in 1941
2. I am modernizing and mechanizing my army and supply lines, you didn't think I would let all those horses supply my tanks like the Germans did?
3. The leaders in Moscow are currently unaware of the attack on Leningrad by the British, and nobody is aware of the alliance between Germany and the UK. That's why they have so optimistic dialouges.
4. With the capture of Sweden's important industrial areas (including, but not limited to, the mountains and the ore that's beneath them) the pressure on the industry in the Urals has decreased by an estimated 10 to 15 %, allowing me to allocate some funds to the development of nuclear reactors. Please note that I would only have a prototype of a nuclear reactor in the fall of 1941.

ok this is how it might look if Japan and the USSR agree to fight together

UK
Germany
Sweden
Netherlands

USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Iran
Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
greece

---------------------------------

if they do not it might look like this

UK
Germany
Sweden
Spain
Japan
Italy
Lux.
Australia
Yugoslavia
greece

Netherlands
USSR
Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania
IRA
Iran

if anyone sees anything wrong with this please tell me

I'm allied with Japan and Russia.

1, The Germans didn't have very good quality on their steel, this rp started 1936 and I haven't seen you roleplaying the upgrade of your industries.

2, Atomic weapons are banned, atomic weapons=nukes. A nuclear submarine is a submarine powered by a nuclear reactor, a nuclear sub =/= a nuke. The Germans were aiming at a short war, and the development for nuclear weapons was not given sufficient funding until very late in the war. Their attempts were also hampered by the Allies.

3, I meant the part about you knowing that Trotsky was in the Soviet Union.
1) Thy did have good quality steel from 1938 on...and that's when this thread started. If I don't say I'm debunking a policy, that means the policy is still on. I've kept all but the anti-Jew policies, so just read a history book. I've also posted some internal memos stating I was overhauling the manufacture industry in late 1938 and it would be finished by Jan 1941. I believe its around March 41, or at least that's where it should be since 1 week=1 year.
2) the Germans were the first to split the atom and did that in 1939. The Russians had no atomic weapons programs during the war. I'm using only weapons that the Germans had during the war, and not going post-war. I thaought we agreed to do that, and just mess with the timeline.
3)I didn't see your SIC post, I'll edit when I get back on.

1) Thy did have good quality steel from 1938 on...and that's when this thread started. If I don't say I'm debunking a policy, that means the policy is still on. I've kept all but the anti-Jew policies, so just read a history book. I've also posted some internal memos stating I was overhauling the manufacture industry in late 1938 and it would be finished by Jan 1941. I believe its around March 41, or at least that's where it should be since 1 week=1 year.
2) the Germans were the first to split the atom and did that in 1939. The Russians had no atomic weapons programs during the war. I'm using only weapons that the Germans had during the war, and not going post-war. I thaought we agreed to do that, and just mess with the timeline.
3)I didn't see your SIC post, I'll edit when I get back on.
1. The Germans had high grade Swdsih steel. I take Sweden --> No steel.
2. The Italian Fermi split an atom in 1934. Unfortunately he didn't realise he had, and it wasn't until 1938 that the German Otto Hahn that the new substances Fermi ''created'' was in fact Barium, which couldn't be unless the atom had been split.
3. I can't seem to find the post where we agreed to limit technology to that during the war.

Ok, you have Sweeden. I still have enough steel for a war, and Switzerland has steel as well, so I can trade. I'm not at war *yet*, so imports are also there.

I honestly believe that the USSR is god modding with the nuclear submarine idea. A nuclear sub was not even concieved until well into the 1950's America. A nuclear reactor was not created until late 1945, and here we are in 1940 saying we will produce a nuclear sub that wouldn't really exist until after Korea? I really cannot believe that it would be possible since radiation poisoning would not be known until after the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If he even built the reactor, all of his engineers would be fried and anyone who went in to rescue them would die the same. I am basically ignoring the possibility of the sub's use until RP 1950, and even then that's being generous.

German Jets: http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~frank/jets.htm

Focus on the first sentence. It says that by 1939, Germany had a true jet fighter ready for production. we're into 1941 by now (every Monday equals a new year, beginning posts).

I honestly believe that the USSR is god modding with the nuclear submarine idea. A nuclear sub was not even concieved until well into the 1950's America. A nuclear reactor was not created until late 1945, and here we are in 1940 saying we will produce a nuclear sub that wouldn't really exist until after Korea? I really cannot believe that it would be possible since radiation poisoning would not be known until after the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If he even built the reactor, all of his engineers would be fried and anyone who went in to rescue them would die the same. I am basically ignoring the possibility of the sub's use until RP 1950, and even then that's being generous.
I'm not saying it will succeed the first time. The British declaration of war would take the focus of any nuclear project and it probably won't be ready even 1950.

is Sweden captured or not? Im still wonderin whats goin on