NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: This post is for documentation only and can not be used by other nations as intell during combat or any other encounter with Serpantol. However Comments are welcome. Thank you.



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Transmission Recorded.....
Encoding Transmission.......
Linking with Command communication network...
Transmitting signal....


~ Secret Transmission to RSI Military Command ~

After long consideration, The RSI Military council has decided to develope a Mech design inorder to compete with other nations in ground combat. Fleet Command has issued orders to form a new branch of the military which will still opperate under The Romulan Serpantolian Fleet. This Division will be known as the Serpantolian Armored Corps. And the Mechs will be refered to as AC's or Armor Cores.
The Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype is the first in this line of Mechs. It will be equiped with a hand weapons that are currently in the design works along with the Lancer M7. Furture developments will be reported to RSI Military Command as they are made. It is believed that it will take several years to fully develope and mass produce the Pretoriate Lancer Series of Mechs and Mech weapons.
While Current Ships can be modified to transport these units, a specialized Transport will be developed at a later date.


Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype (http://webpages.charter.net/durst95/codarl1C.JPG)


MX - 156 Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype:

Designation: Mechinized Assault Unit/Manned

Height: 17.5 meters

Weight: 110 tons

Endo-Structure: Duranium/Tritanium

Exo-Structure: High Density Armour

Power Source: One Micro artifical singularity-drive core

Speed:
Ground -
Max: 95 kph
Cruising: 65 kph

Air -
Max: 689 kph
Cruising: 436 kph

Space -
Max: Unknown
Cruising: Unknown

Weapons: Armament Posibilities;
- Twin Light Disruptor Cannon Rifle (http://webpages.charter.net/durst95/disruptor rifle1.JPG)
- Medium Disruptor Cannon Rifle (http://webpages.charter.net/durst95/mediumdisruptorcannonrifle.JPG)
- BackPack weapons Unit - Torpedo Launch Tubes, Morter Launcher (http://webpages.charter.net/durst95/mechweaponbackpack.JPG)

Special:
The Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype is an advanced multiperpose mech designed for high speep ground, air, and space combat. While its main use is for a ground assault Mech it is also capable of sustained flight for a considerable distance. The M7 is also capable of space combat. It is equiped with thrusters allowing it to maneuver through space, and its weapon compliment being based on weapons from our ship technology is well equiped to fight under most any condisions.

Additional Features:
- Light Energy Shielding : Equiped with a modified Fighter shield system. Capable of withstanding multiple shots from heavy weapons fire.
- Static Cloaking System : Cloaking system provides optical Cloak as well as additional systems designed to lower temperture and power level detection threshold. This system is somewhat effective while Unit is moving but is primarily designed for low movement or stationary use for ambush or steath mission tactics.


Furture details will be made avaliable when they are avaliable to us.

~ End Encoded Transmission ~

If the powercore was ruptured then it would most likely do a great deal of damage to fellow forces. Also the taller the mech, the more people can see it and shoot at it. We would suggest a mech that was more hunched over than upright.

You make very good points, however, the level of power needed for the weapon systems requires a powercore of that size and design. And as for the height, it is designed as a very fast, highly mobile unit. Perhaps an energy shielding system would be advisable for such a design as this?

Possibly, if you could do it, it would help your mech in combat.

My nation is a farly advance FT nation. Energy sheilds shouldnt be to much of a streach... and accually you mentioned the height making it easy to see... my nations ships depend highly on the use of cloaking technology. I planned to add a static cloaking system on later versions that would allow them be unseen to an extent, making them good for ambushes and such.

Feature designs added!

Additional Features:
- Light Energy Shielding : Equiped with a modified Fighter shield system. Capable of withstanding multiple shots from heavy weapons fire.
- Static Cloaking System : Cloaking system provides optical Cloak as well as additional systems designed to lower temperture and power level detection threshold. This system is somewhat effective while Unit is moving but is primarily designed for low movement or stationary use for ambush or steath mission tactics.

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 01/15
Medium Disruptor Cannon Rifle - 01/05
Lancer Backpack Weapon system - 01/05

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 02/15
Medium Disruptor Cannon Rifle - 02/05
Lancer Backpack Weapon system - 02/05

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 03/15
Medium Disruptor Cannon Rifle - 03/05
Lancer Backpack Weapon system - 03/05

This will also help in the design

Titanium harness= A simple mount placed to a tough, flexable wire or rods. It allows the mech to maintain or regain its balance.

This will also help in the design

Titanium harness= A simple mount placed to a tough, flexable wire or rods. It allows the mech to maintain or regain its balance.


Formal Response:

The Government of Serpantol thank you for your contribution but we would prefer to finish this design on our own.

However, if we were to consider your help, what would you want in exchange for your technology contribution?

Serpantol

Just an alliance, you know economic benefits and such

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 04/15
Medium Disruptor Cannon Rifle - 04/05
Lancer Backpack Weapon system - 04/05


- Offical responce to Gyrobot -

We are willing to consider an alliance with you but we feel that we can complete this project on our own. However thank you for your interrest in this project.

We will send a diplomatic onvory to your nation aboard the Warbird Talaxious. Our ambassotors and you leaders can work something out.

OOC: you can TG me if you want and maybe we can work somthing out. Romulans do not tend to allie themselves to easily.

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 05/15
Medium Disruptor Cannon Rifle - Complete
Lancer Backpack Weapon system - Complete

Adding Twin Light Disrupto Cannon Rifle:

Twin Light Disrupto Cannon Rifle - 01/05

OOC: missed a day

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 07/15
Twin Light Disrupto Cannon Rifle - 03/05

Although Halberdgardia is primarily a MT nation, we are beginning to stretch into PMT tech. This is quite advanced technology, but if we were to contribute funds to the development effort (likely to the order of several billion dollars), would we receive a few prototypes, and perhaps be eligible for production rights and/or a discount on purchasing these mechs from Serpantol in the future? We await your reply.

Although Halberdgardia is primarily a MT nation, we are beginning to stretch into PMT tech. This is quite advanced technology, but if we were to contribute funds to the development effort (likely to the order of several billion dollars), would we receive a few prototypes, and perhaps be eligible for production rights and/or a discount on purchasing these mechs from Serpantol in the future? We await your reply.

Halberdgardia,
The Pretoriate Lancer M7 is considerably more advanced then even PMT we believe. The weapons and power systems as well as the Cloaking and maybe even the shielding would be considered far future tech. While we normally would have no problems helping a nation to get a powerfull upper hand over their enemies, this combat system may be more than your nation could manage. If you are interrested we may be able to work out a deal conserning the basic chassis design. That would allow your nation to get a head start on the design of a mech. You could then addapt your own weapons and power generators to the design. You may or may not find this appealing. We would however be willing to help you addapt your systems to the design.

Serpantol Commerce

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 08/15
Twin Light Disrupto Cannon Rifle - 04/05

Halberdgardia,
The Pretoriate Lancer M7 is considerably more advanced then even PMT we believe. The weapons and power systems as well as the Cloaking and maybe even the shielding would be considered far future tech. While we normally would have no problems helping a nation to get a powerfull upper hand over their enemies, this combat system may be more than your nation could manage. If you are interrested we may be able to work out a deal conserning the basic chassis design. That would allow your nation to get a head start on the design of a mech. You could then addapt your own weapons and power generators to the design. You may or may not find this appealing. We would however be willing to help you addapt your systems to the design.

Serpantol Commerce

We were afraid you might say something like that. However, your offer to adapt the design to our tech level is appealing, and we appreciate it. We accept your offer for the basic chassis. Perhaps a modified, shrunken-down version of an ETC cannon for the weapon would be more appropriate? Say, dual 75mm ETC cannons. We can equip the mech with some of our experimental weapons from there, but if you have anything else to contribute, please feel free.

Appended: If possible, we would appreciate it if the mech could retain its spacefaring capabilities, as we are beginning our own space program, and an example of your mech's drives would be most beneficial to our own research.

We were afraid you might say something like that. However, your offer to adapt the design to our tech level is appealing, and we appreciate it. We accept your offer for the basic chassis. Perhaps a modified, shrunken-down version of an ETC cannon for the weapon would be more appropriate? Say, dual 75mm ETC cannons. We can equip the mech with some of our experimental weapons from there, but if you have anything else to contribute, please feel free.

Appended: If possible, we would appreciate it if the mech could retain its spacefaring capabilities, as we are beginning our own space program, and an example of your mech's drives would be most beneficial to our own research.

Halberdgardia,

We will allow the space thrusters to remain on the units, the space thrusters are the same that give the unit the ability to fly under atmosphereic condistions as well. They are a basic design that turn energy into thrust propultion. The Mech design does not have a FTL drive. Your weapons will not take long to adapt, maybe a few weeks at most(1/2 rl day). We will need an example of your power source or reactor for adaptation. We will do this based on your previous offer for several billion, lets say 10 Billion over the time it takes to resurch, and you will recieve 10 prototypes. At this point they are very expensive to produce. Later mass produced models will be much much cheaper. Once the design is complete we can discuss production rights.

We would also like test data that you gather from the models we send you.

Serpantol Commerce

Halberdgardia,

We will allow the space thrusters to remain on the units, the space thrusters are the same that give the unit the ability to fly under atmosphereic condistions as well. They are a basic design that turn energy into thrust propultion. The Mech design does not have a FTL drive. Your weapons will not take long to adapt, maybe a few weeks at most(1/2 rl day). We will need an example of your power source or reactor for adaptation. We will do this based on your previous offer for several billion, lets say 10 Billion over the time it takes to resurch, and you will recieve 10 prototypes. At this point they are very expensive to produce. Later mass produced models will be much much cheaper. Once the design is complete we can discuss production rights.

We would also like test data that you gather from the models we send you.

Serpantol Commerce

Our PMT mainly applies to our military, and not civilian life, so our power sources are essentially MT. This could create a problem, as we're not sure what would make a feasible design for the power plant of the mech. Perhaps a large bank of hydrogen fuel cells? We may be able to obtain some fusion reactors from a more advanced ally of ours, as they will likely be providing us fusion reactors for another project of our space agency. However, assuming hydrogen fuel cells are feasible, we should probably assume those until I hear any news about the fusion reactors.

We agree to the $10 billion asking price, and will provide you the test data from the prototypes.

Our PMT mainly applies to our military, and not civilian life, so our power sources are essentially MT. This could create a problem, as we're not sure what would make a feasible design for the power plant of the mech. Perhaps a large bank of hydrogen fuel cells? We may be able to obtain some fusion reactors from a more advanced ally of ours, as they will likely be providing us fusion reactors for another project of our space agency. However, assuming hydrogen fuel cells are feasible, we should probably assume those until I hear any news about the fusion reactors.

We agree to the $10 billion asking price, and will provide you the test data from the prototypes.

Halberdgardia,

Very well, we can use the Hydrogen fuel cells for now, however performance will be limited. We would recomend obtaining the Fusion reactors if possible. We will provide system adaptors so that you can make the conversions your self once you get the reactors. Expect delievery of Prototypes in 6 months (1/2 rl day from now).

Serpantol Commerce

Halberdgardia,

Very well, we can use the Hydrogen fuel cells for now, however performance will be limited. We would recomend obtaining the Fusion reactors if possible. We will provide system adaptors so that you can make the conversions your self once you get the reactors. Expect delievery of Prototypes in 6 months (1/2 rl day from now).

Serpantol Commerce

How many prototypes will we be receiving, and how much combat time/performance will the mechs have given their current configuration as compared to fusion reactors?

How many prototypes will we be receiving, and how much combat time/performance will the mechs have given their current configuration as compared to fusion reactors?

Halberdgardia,

You will recieve all 10 units up front as a sigh of good faith, allowing you to begin testing in a group or squad. Our early estimates would say that with out a constant regenerating power source, considering variables such as weapon use and standard movement on ground, around 20 hours tops. With flight or space flight added in, more then likely less then 10 hours total. Adding the fusion core should allow for continueous basic useage with proper mantainence, while flight systems performence will be gained, it will still be limited to around 20 hours patrol, and around 10 hours under heavy manuvering/combat befor the system will need mantainence. The flight system is seperate from the main system allowing standard ground use even if the flight thrusters were to be damaged in any way. You may also want to consider that Atomosphereic Flight adds stress to the mech a lot more then space flight does.

It must be noted as well that with the lower output of energy then our quantum singularity cores, the performances outputs of the mech could be slighty lower however this can not me known untill tested.

Serpantol Commerce

Halberdgardia,

You will recieve all 10 units up front as a sigh of good faith, allowing you to begin testing in a group or squad. Our early estimates would say that with out a constant regenerating power source, considering variables such as weapon use and standard movement on ground, around 20 hours tops. With flight or space flight added in, more then likely less then 10 hours total. Adding the fusion core should allow for continueous basic useage with proper mantainence, while flight systems performence will be gained, it will still be limited to around 20 hours patrol, and around 10 hours under heavy manuvering/combat befor the system will need mantainence. The flight system is seperate from the main system allowing standard ground use even if the flight thrusters were to be damaged in any way. You may also want to consider that Atomosphereic Flight adds stress to the mech a lot more then space flight does.

For a prototype, this is excellent news. We will attempt to obtain fusion reactors from our ally ASAP. Additionally, we wish to outfit the prototypes with the following weapons:


Air-to-Air missiles
Surface-to-Air missiles (optional)
One 20mm machine gun
Dual 7.62mm machine guns
Some sort of payload of bombs, if possible (optional)


We will also be outfitting the prototypes with an experimental EMP-rocket launcher system, as well as outfitting them with the same material that is painted on B-2 Stealth bombers to reduce radar signature.

For a prototype, this is excellent news. We will attempt to obtain fusion reactors from our ally ASAP. Additionally, we wish to outfit the prototypes with the following weapons:


Air-to-Air missiles
Surface-to-Air missiles (optional)
One 20mm machine gun
Dual 7.62mm machine guns
Some sort of payload of bombs, if possible (optional)


We will also be outfitting the prototypes with an experimental EMP-rocket launcher system, as well as outfitting them with the same material that is painted on B-2 Stealth bombers to reduce radar signature.

Most of your options could be achieved through a backpack weapons mount as ours uses.
- Air-to-Air and Surface-to-air missiles are often the same missile with a targeting option.
- The Dual 7.62mm MGs and 20mm cannon could be placed in the head unit with the targeting package. Additional magazine compartments for them could be placed in the backpack unit. However, you must remember that this mech design was not designed for internal weapon loads. Although there is a place in the head that we believed we might install a Support disruptor for anti-personnel use. that is the place we would install you guns.
- Bombs would be difficault to equip and use. We recommend a handheld or back mounted Rocket pod of some sort to replace the bombs.

A nother point to make is that the Duranium/Tritanium armored used in the structure of the mech might be hard for a MT nation to get if you try to build these yourself.

It must be noted as well that with the lower output of energy then our quantum singularity cores, the performances outputs of the mech could be slighty lower however this can not be known untill tested.

Serpantol Commerce

Most of your options could be achieved through a backpack weapons mount as ours uses.
- Air-to-Air and Surface-to-air missiles are often the same missile with a targeting option.
- The Dual 7.62mm MGs and 20mm cannon could be placed in the head unit with the targeting package. Additional magazine compartments for them could be placed in the backpack unit. However, you must remember that this mech design was not designed for internal weapon loads. Although there is a place in the head that we believed we might install a Support disruptor for anti-personnel use. that is the place we would install you guns.
- Bombs would be difficault to equip and use. We recommend a handheld or back mounted Rocket pod of some sort to replace the bombs.

The head will work fine for the MGs, and as the bombs were something of an optional after-thought, losing them is not a big deal.

Another point to make is that the Duranium/Tritanium armored used in the structure of the mech might be hard for a MT nation to get if you try to build these yourself.

Depending on how expensive the final product is, we may simply buy them from you. Another option would be for us to produce our own with less sophisticated armor. Alternatively, we may simply pull out of this project after giving you the prototypes' test data until we have technology comparable to yours.

It must be noted as well that with the lower output of energy then our quantum singularity cores, the performances outputs of the mech could be slighty lower however this can not be known untill tested.

Serpantol Commerce

With your quantum singularity cores, what is the estimated performance of the mech, and how would it compare to standard fusion reactors?

With your quantum singularity cores, what is the estimated performance of the mech, and how would it compare to standard fusion reactors?

Stats with our power core is as stated above although they are not completly true, accuall stats are below. With the Fusion Reactors ground speed should remain the same because that has to do with the structural design of the mech. The problems would be faced in flight modes. Space flight would be only minorly effected. The main down grade would be in atmosphereic flight. Our calculation would put the modified model at around;

Speed:
Ground -
Max: 95 kph
Cruising: 65 kph

Air -
Max: 606 kph
Cruising: 426 kph

Space -
Max: Unknown/ pending full tests
Cruising: Unknown/ pending full tests

You may notice that they are only slightly changed.. this is due to the fact that our begining estimates for our models reported to RSI command were somewhat under their accuall capabilities. It was felt that if they over achieved it would look better on the design team so we lied a little.

Accuall estimates for our model are;

Speed:
Ground -
Max: 105 kph
Cruising: 75 kph

Air -
Max: 789 kph
Cruising: 536 kph

Space -
Max: Unknown/ pending full tests
Cruising: Unknown/ pending full tests

Serpantol Commerce

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 09/15
Twin Light Disrupto Cannon Rifle - Complete

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 10/15

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 11/15

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - 12/15

((OOC: well, managed to miss 3 days/years.))

Development Status:

Measured in Years: 1 rl day = 1 NS year

Pretoriate Lancer M7 Prototype - Complete

Pretoriate Lancer M7 project complete. M8 is a massed produced variation that is easier and cheaper to build. the M7 will still be built for use by Core Officers and team Leaders.