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A/ATA3A Phoenix V Anti-Air Missile Released

MassPwnage
18-05-2005, 16:48
ooc: Designed because I was a bored man in math class. Rough Draft

Description: Got airplanes that need killing? Many people do. Well here's the missile that does and does it right. This is a next-generation missile for the hypersonic battlefield of the future. The missile is designed to be launched from the ASF-06 Coral Dragon and ASF-07 Komodo Hypersoar Fighters against hypersoars, although it can be used as a regular missile as well.

Dimensions:
Length: 4.2m
Width: 14cm
Weight: 375kg

Sensor Pack:
*Passive Lidar-Homes in on enemy Lidar signals

*Infrared Homing- A very sensitive probe, not fooled by flares.

*Active Lidar- Just that. Nothing is harder to counter.

*Passive Radar- Homes in on enemy active radar.

*Photoelectric Proximity Sensor- Just that.

Engine: Pulse Detonation Hybrid Turbofan/Scramjet Hybrid with 3d thrust vectoring.

Fuel: LOX/Hydrocarbon Mixture. Solid propellant with liquid oxidizer.

Max Speed: Mach 12 at 132,000 ft.
Mach 10 at 100,000 ft.
Mach 5 at 60,000 ft.
Mach 3.7 at 40,000 ft.
Mach 3 at 30,000 ft.
Mach 2 at Sea Level.

Detonation: Contact or Proximity Based.

Warhead: 20kg Octonitrocubane.

Range: 270nm

Design Notes:

*Completely fire and forget.

*Shape is optimized to reduce sonic boom.

*Paint absorbs some photons from LIDAR and skin absorbs most types of radar.

* Exhaust vent shaped to partially reduce visual signature from the missile.

* Extremely manueverable at lower speeds.

* At least some infrared masking. The IR masking becomes useless above Mach 5.

Cost: $2.4 million.
Production Rights: $18 billion
Aronian States
18-05-2005, 16:50
I need one so that I can reverse-engineer it...
Praetonia
18-05-2005, 17:29
OOC: Mach 12... *rolleyes*
Jerobia
18-05-2005, 17:30
OOC: Mach 12... *rolleyes*

OOC: It'd be ok if the target was two or three miles straight ahead of you, becuase they'd get hit by the missile as it melted into a fast moving cloud of liquid metal and components.
MassPwnage
18-05-2005, 21:08
*bump*
MassPwnage
19-05-2005, 00:10
*bump*
The Macabees
19-05-2005, 00:21
OOC: Mach 12... *rolleyes*

[OOC: It's designed to fly in the upper atmosphere/space I believe - as it refers to the Hypersoar bomber.

Regardless, a few problems:

Passive LIDAR: How exactly do you home in on enemy light waves? Does that mean that the missile will also home into any other source of light waves, including the sun?

Active LIDAR: You actually need to catch what you're looking for on RADAR before you can use LIDAR because you're going to get a billion signals if you're using it like a phased array - anything that it contacts is going to be targetted.

Sensative IR: If it has really sensative IR then it's going to be fooled by IR flares...because as you said..it's really sensative to IR signatures. ]
Tyrandis
19-05-2005, 00:31
[
Sensative IR: If it has really sensative IR then it's going to be fooled by IR flares...because as you said..it's really sensative to IR signatures. ]

OOC: Don't forget about the sun, that wonderful source of heat :P
Omz222
19-05-2005, 00:31
OOC: I do believe that both LIDAR and LADAR refers to the system that uses laser light, as I don't see how you can just use "regular" light to detect things in the fashion of how radar and LADAR/LIDAR does. With the range, no matter with what speed you have and at what altitude it flies it still is too much for a missile bwteen 300-400kg (as you are implying that the missile will travel 500km), though you have to take into account that an AAM's range is rather a variable rather than a constant number, as it depends on what altitude you are releasing the missile at, what speed the launching platform travels at, the speed and altitude the target flies at, and the difference between the altitudes of the launching aircraft and the target (I can dig up the reasoning/explanation behind it if necessary). Still, with a normal rocket booster, neither are you going to get that kind of range and even get to "mask its infrared signature" even at a speed of Mach two with a missile that is only about 820lbs.
The Macabees
19-05-2005, 00:34
OOC: I do believe that both LIDAR and LADAR refers to the system that uses laser light, as I don't see how you can just use "regular" light to detect things in the fashion of how radar and LADAR/LIDAR does.

[OOC:

LADAR uses laser light.

LIDAR uses a cassagrian telescope to take in photons for passive LIDAR and it uses a Guassian transmitter to pulse out centralized light waves.]
Praetonia
19-05-2005, 17:30
[OOC: It's designed to fly in the upper atmosphere/space I believe - as it refers to the Hypersoar bomber.]
[OOC: It does now that he's editted it, anyway...]
MassPwnage
20-05-2005, 22:58
IR Sensor: The IR sensor can differentiate between flares, the sun and an engine heat, unless the heat of the engine matches the temperature of the flares exactly. Also, IR hyperspectral imaging can differentiate between the nature of the engine's heat and the nature of the flares.

Active LIDAR: Generally, after an IR lock and passive radar lock is made, this is turned on to ensure a dead on hit.

Passive LIDAR: Basically works like the laser rangefinder warning system on the Type 98 tank.