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The Kingdom of Ulster would like to modernise the equipment to be used in the infantry platoons of its standing forces, the Armed Forces of the Monarchy.

The standard infantry platoon is currently organised along the following lines;

4 Rifle Sections
Weapons Section

Rifle Section;
Sergeant w/Sten Submachine Gun
Lance Corporal w/ Sten Submachine Gun
2 Sharpshooters w/ L1A1, "Marksman" pattern
2 Support Gunners w/ MG 42 medium machine gun
4 Riflemen w/ L1A1 Battle Rifle

Weapons section;
2 Heavy Weapons (MG 42 MMG, 58mm mortar, or 55mm recoilless anti-tank rifle).
2 riflemen (one of which serves as section lance corporal)

The nation or nations that can provide the winning bid will be selected to conduct the training and equipping to begin the remedial infantry training neccessary to adapt to this style of warfare.

The winning bid will be selected on quality and affordability of equipment as well as practicality of the organisational scheme.

Understand that this contract extends only to the dismounted infantry corps, and not to mechanised combatants (of which the Monarchy is posessed of but few examples).

Numerical organisation and proportion is permitted to be changed, or to remain the same with simple equipment adjustment.

May the bidding begin.

Verghastinsel Armaments manufactures numerous small arms, armoured and unarmoured vehicles, and military equipment of unparalelled quality. The example rifle section could be equipped with the following from our products;

Rifle Section;
Sergeant w/ Sturmgewehr 1988 Model 4 5.56x45mm Assault Rifle
Lance Corporal w/ StG88M4
2 Sharpshooters w/ Steyr Scout 7.62x54 Bolt-Action Sniper Rifle (Produced under licence)
2 Support Gunners w/ Maschinegewehr 1998 Model 2 5.56x45mm LMG
4 Riflemen w/ StG88M4

Weapons section;
2 Heavy Weapons (MG98M2 LMG, G90 81mm Mortar).
2 riflemen (one of which serves as section lance corporal)

A Rifle Section could be equipped for 3,250 USD, (For another 15 USD per rifle, you could purchase the Sturmgewehr 2005 Model 2 5.56x45mm Bullpup Assault Rifle, which is a lighter, more modern weapon).
A Weapons Section could be equipped for 3,440 USD (One LMG, one mortar. Sadly, VA does not manufacture disposable anti-tank weapons, and would not be able to replace your current 55mm Recoiless Rifle.)
VA awaits your reply.

(ooc; pics of the weapons in question, if available?)

We have made note of your offer, and are looking forward to testing out demonstration equipment as part of our testing process.

Leafanistan's storefront contains numerous thigns at affordable prices for building an air force, army and navy. We will send over equipment for you to test, we shall send 1 MiG-21, 2 AVT-90M Tanks, 2 T-62s, AK-104s, RPG-7s and RPG-16s, and HN-5s. We hope you wil consder us when purchasing your military equipment.

We appreciate Leafanistan's offer. If you could submit a proposal based on the criteria we had mentioned in our previous communication, we could arrange for a field test. At this time, our economy cannot support an expansion of our existing armoured corps or air forces, and therefore we are focusing on the basics of our infantry units.

OOC: Pics for all except the Mortar and Steyr Scout are available on my Storefront (Click the 'Verghastinsel Armaments' link in my sig.). A pic of the Steyr Scout can be found at http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn37-e.htm.

(ooc; I can't access the link from your sig, could you post it directly?)

Being of Irish decent-(Our Nation) we would like to offer a military alliance, We will send an emissary his name is Steven Bragh, Colonel-Air Force of the Isle

The offer is appreciated, although slightly out of the scope of our specific request. If you could send the information about the particulars you would like to negotiate for the alliance to our earlier message (opening of diplomatic relations is the title of the thread), we would be happy to begin such negotiations.

OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408827&page=1

Sorry for taking so long, I seem to have started a war. Link above, though when I tried to go there from my sig it worked. Puzzling. Hope this one's okay.

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http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm

Transnapastain suggests this:

The H&K XM-8 Modular assault weapons system may be idle for your military. One can, reliably and perfectly, perform the function of a squad level support gunner, sharpshooter, riflemen and section leaders, based upon its modular combat design.

A derivative of the H&K M-29 OICW, the M-8 can be changed from assault rifle to sub-machine (super compact –PDW) to standard assault weapon with integrated 3x optical sight, and optional XM-320 grenade launcher to sharp shooter, with an extended barrel and optional attached optics, to light machine gun, with drum clip and integrated 3x scope, configuration within 2 minutes in the field.

The weapon can also be rechambered, in under 2 minutes, in the field between 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO. The grenade launcher can be removed, and fire independently, and reattached in under 30 seconds, with no sight calibration needed.

The weapon out preformed the Colt M4 on ALL levels of testing, and is Land Warrior capable.

Rifle Section;
Sergeant H&K M-8 in Super compact mode
Lance Corporal H&K M-8 in Super compact mode
2 Sharpshooters H&K M-8 in Parasniper mode
2 Support Gunners H&K M-8 in Support mode
4 Riflemen H&K M-8 in Standard Infantry configuration

This would save your military a logistical nightmare of having to ship multiple types of ammunition, parts, cleaning kits, and other accessories a battle zone…. and soldiers would be able to easily scrounge ammo from each other, no matter that their designation is, as well as any other NATO weapons equipped military force.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/xm8-poster.jpg

There’s a great picture of the different components

Transnapastain would be willing to supply the technical schematics, as well as test weapons, for only 10,000 up front, and 1,000 for additional weapons manufactured within our nation

Prices are negotiable.

OOC: Basically, I don’t care about the money I make off of it, but, I cant justify “giving’ it away

Crookfur Arms is currently preparing a full bid (ie i'm at work right now) but as taster would like to provide details of the round that forms the center peice of our arms package.

This round is the 6.25x43mm Crookfur round. Developed as possibly the optimum in an infantry small arms round. For your soldiers it would offer ballistic perfromance very close to thier existing 7.62mm NATO ammo while being significantly lighter allowing the carriage of eiother more ammo or lighter loads for your infantry.

Basically the majority of our package would be based on an upgraded and somewhat redesigned SA-80 chambered for the 6.25mm round. pics of all our weapons can be found on our store front (link in sig).

I'll be back with a detailed proposal.

Kazahstania would Like to Enter the:

Kazakh Arms Bid

Kazakhstania firstly suggests it's standard squad construction, although this is very Kazakhstanian and requires strict, well trained doctrine:

One Squad:

Alpha Team consisting of,
1 Team Leader (Sargeant or Officer of choice)
1 Anti-Tank Weapon Carrier
1 Rifleman (AT Carrier)

Bravo Team consisting of,
1 Machine Gunner
1 Riflemen (ammo carrier) (Corporal or Sargeant, generally)

Charlie Team Consisting of,
1 Sniper

Arms Proposals:

Standard Round

The Kazakhstanian Standard Round is a 6.65mm round, developed from the Freedom Countrian 6.62mm round. Bridging the gap between the fairly useless 5.56mm NATO round and the powerful 7.62mm NATO round, it is the standard round for all Kazkah weapons.

Having the stopping power and ballistic pattern closer to the 7.62mm round, but far less size and weight. Purposely made to be able to be used in weapons from Snipers Rifles to Machine Guns, and tested through varying conditions for over a year, the round is a highly reliable and well tuned round, able to stop a man at around 700m.

Kazakhstanian Standard Battle Rifle M-26 (http://www.bdlltd.com/2496-_Daewoo-_right_side.jpg)

Built around the 6.65mm round, this robust weapon was built from scratch around a robust upper receiver and a magazine! Field tested for around two years with the Kazakhstanian Paratroopers, the M-26 was officially adopted two years ago.

With a comfortable handgrip, easily field-strippable and virtually soldeir-proof, this weapon was as robust as we could make something constructed purely of Metal and Plastic! A fully automatic or single shot weapon, the weapon is accurate to around 400m, with a highly trained shooter on Iron Sights. It can be fitted with a 3.5x scope, which can extent its effective range.

Other features include an adjustable stock containing the weapons cleaning kit and weapon multi-tool (for stripping and sight adjustment), magazine receiver for High Cap or Normal Mag's, and fully adjustable sights.

Kazakhstanian Light Machine Gun LR-117 (http://world.guns.ru/machine/daewoo_k3.jpg)

Kazakhstania's Primary Squad Machine Gun, using the 6.62mm round in belt fed or magazine fed configurations. Meticulously tested at the same time as the M-26, the Machine Gun was found to be both reliable and effecient, and highly effective at sending out covering fire. More compact than some machine guns, making it far more portable and lighter, providing a mobile source of covering fire, with just as much lethality as a 7.62mm MG.

The barrel was the focus of much development, so that barrel changing was not required so often. A highly reliable barrel compound was found, which enlarges the barrel life by several hundred rapid-fire rounds.

Kazakh Marksman Rifle LR-125 (http://www.britisharmedforces.org/lee_pic7.gif)

This is Kazakhstania's advanced marksmanship rifle. Accurate to around a kilometer, and fitted with a Poweful Miller Rifle Scope with magnification of you choice, this rifle is portable, easily disassembled and a great marksmanship tool. It has a easily adjustable iron sights, and an adjustable mount for a wide variety of scopes.

Cleaned within minutes, this rifle is truly a snipers friend, as it is very accurate and low maintenance. Also, it is highly portable, allowing easy movement in the field. Being a bolt action rifle, however, the L-96 is best used in either a team of it’s own, due to the low rate of fire.

Kazakhstanian Armor Weapon AW-89 (http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/armylaw80b.jpg)

A single shot or reloadable Anti-Tank Weapon, the LAW-89 is a very simple, easily used Anti Tank weapon. With an armor penetration of about 650-700mm, this is a highly potent weapon against armor of any form. Effective out to around 300mm, this is an infantry soldiers answer to the tank attack. The warhead used can be reloaded in the rear by another soldier, and is two stage, once taking out any ERA, the main warhead detonates, hopefully penetrating the tank.

Kazakh 9mm Semi-Auto Pistol (http://www.gunsworld.com/french/graphs/Manurhin_P1_R.jpg)

A lightweight and highly reliable pistol firing the trustworthy 9mm round, the P-1 9mm is Kazakhstania's prime sidearm. A useful weapon in a pinch with more than enough stopping power and an effective rang eof up to 100m, the P-1 is every soldeirs must-have.

Easily seperable and cleanable, the P-1 is also a minimum maintenance weapon, meaning troops can concentrate more on cleaning their primary weapon.

NOTE: The same cleaning kit and ammunition is used for all the rifles and the machine gun, meaning minimum logistical nightmare. Also, up to 50% of the parts between the LMG and the rifle are interchangeable, meaning that reparations are made much simpler.

These are Kazakhstania’s suggestions, and the contract has been filled in I believe. If you need anything else from field webbing to uniforms, look no further, just ask.

OOC: Damn you crookfur! I was going to use the SA-80 and LSW...ah well.

Are you a member of a military organisation in Britain, by the way? I remember speaking to you a while ago about the ATC.

Ok the full Bid From Crookfur Arms:
Organisation:
Rifle Section;
Sergeant --> S1A3 Assault rifle
Lance Corporal --> S1A3 Assault rifle with AM1 Grenade Launcher
2 Light support operators --> S2A3 LSW
2 Machine Gunners -->S5A3 LMG/SAW
1 Grenadier--> S1A3 Assault rifle with AM1 Grenade Launcher
3 Riflemen--> S1A3 Assault rifle
(price= $9000)
Weapons section;
2 Heavy Weapons (S8A4 HMG or S9A2LWMG, S10A1 Feild Combat weapon, M4 Light anti armour weapon).
2 riflemen -->S1A3 Assault rifle
(Price:
2 S8A4s=$16000
2 S9A2s=$19000
2 S10A1s=$42000
10 M4s=$26000)

Unfortuantly i don't have a mortar that is really useable by a 2 man crew but the S10A1 can sort of ill the role of short to medium range indirect fire).

Now soem explanations of my Choices:
the S1A3: Damn fine assault rfile, light enough that your officers can use it effectively yet still with a punch and rnage roughly comparable with your FN-FALs/L1A1s
S2A3: while on paper as a machien gun the S2A3 has developed a reputation for being more accurate than they should due to thier long and heavy barrels combined with the 4x sight. We can supply them either in standard configuration with a safe, semi or full auto fire selctor or in a specially accurised version with a Safe, bolt assit (gas blowback mechanism is disabled and each shot requires manual cocking, a feature inspired by the British army practice of deliberatly jamming SLRs to make them more accurate), semi auto and 3 rd burst, or what ever combiantion you would desire.
S5A3: while not as heavy as your MG42s the S5A3 can still delivery a n effective braage of supressign fire out to 1000m
AM1: a simple 40mm grenade alucnher, gives your rifle section thier own mini mortars.
Support weapons:
S8A4/S9A4: the choice here is about what you actually require, the S8A4 is heavier but produces a much greater volume of fire, it does however use a much heavier round than your MG42s. The S9A2 is closer to a GPMG design, it still uses the heavy 9x90mm round but is much lighter than the S8A4. However it does posses much lower rate fo fire, beign mroe designed to produce accurate supressing fire (yes that is an oxymoron) over medium to logn rnage than the pure abrrage fire of most GP and HMGs.
S10A4: a rapid fire 20mm grenade laucnher, lightweight and easy to use even from the biult bipod it is a cross between a MG and a mortar. it is expensive weapon with msot of the cost beign involved in the specialist sighting and fuze setting system.
M4 LAW: Its a rocket in a tube, a single shot dispoable weapon capable of defeating msot light to medium armoured vehciles.

Fulld etaisl of all weapons mentioend can be foudn udner the smalla rms and support weapons section of this THIS WEBSITE (http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/)

The suggested equippment loads are pretty much similar to the current UK infantry section layouts (ie 1 leader, 2 grenadiers, 1 LSW, 1LMGs and 3 riflemen) but mdofied for your 10man section

We thank all organisations for their bids for this contract. The military will review the proposed styles immediately and return an answer before too long.

Marshal Ian O'Donnel

Our military leaders would like to ask for some clarifications about the specific choices reccomended by your bids;

Verghastinsel Armaments;
Your reccomended outfitting meshes very closely to the AFM Infantry's current organisational scheme, and thus would require no adjustments in that department.

That said, your reccomendation for the assault rifle seems a touch complex, with all the firing modes you have integrated into the design. This is an important consideration for the troops that must maintain the weapons in the field.

We are curious about your decision to integrate mortar and machine gun personnel into heavy weapons sections together. Mortar fire and machine gun fire have always been segregated in our combat doctrine, because of their exclusive nature. Could you explain the merits of your proposed system for our use?

The upgrade in mortar firepower by use of the 81mm weapon is certainly appealing, and testing has offset concerns that such a weapon is more difficult to maneuver than our current light infantry mortars.

Transnapastain Weaponry;
Your suggestion to use a modular combat rifle is intriguing, and does an excellent job of simplifying maintenance concerns with a minimum of retraining from our current operational program.

That said, we have one inquiry. Your system meets the needs of our rifle sections, but does nothing to address the support weapon sections. Is it your intent then to focus specifically on our rifle sections and leave the support sections to another party?

Kazakhstania;
I am sorry to say that we have already determined that our infantry needs are incompatible with your proposed combat organisation. The units you have reccomended deploying are simply too small for effective deployment, in the eyes of our military leadership. We thank you for your bid, however.

Crookfur Arms;
The first thing our planners noticed was the very diverse selections of weaponry you had suggested. Specifically, we were wondering about the reasoning for your inclusion of the S2A3 LSWs and S5A3 LMG/SAWs together in the squad. As these weapons perform essentially the same function, their inclusion together appears redundant.

Your bid also eliminates the position of sharpshooter from our deployment, replacing them with the role of grenadier. At first met with dubious opinion, this decision has actually proven quite popular; the increased accuracy of your assault rifles eliminates much of the need for the sharpshooters, and the increased hitting power of the grenades is often welcomed. The use of the soft-propelled indirect rounds has been met with mixed success, because of their short range, but this can be amelliorated as we continue the use of our light mortars.

Gentlemen, we await your replies eagerly.

Marshal Lord Ian O'Donnel, Baron of West Tintagel

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Transnapastain’s response

The M-8 weapon system, as stated, does fill the role of light support weapon when in its “support MG role” with extended barrel and 100 round drum magazine. It does not, however, replace the GPMG, such as the M-60 or MG-42.

Transnapastain, then, defers to only focus on the rifle, light support, and sub-machine gun contracts, and leave the General Propose Machine Gun (GPMG), to another nation, however, we make this suggestion:

Should no nation offer a adequate replacement, we would recommend upgrading from the MG-42, to the MG-3. While essentially the same weapon, the MG-3 is an upgraded version, featuring more reliability, and less problem over heating. It still maintains close to the same firing rate. While Transnapastain can not offer you this weapon, we make this suggestion on friendly terms

One addendum to the previous contract, however.

The M-8 rifle is also available in the 6.8mm NATO cartage, and, we can supply the 6.8mm Directorate cartage, which is just slightly larger than the standard 6.8mm round. This round is designed, like others mentioned, to bridge the gap between the tumbling 55.6mm NATO round, and the larger 7.62mm round.

Transnapastain has long since standardized the M-8, along with the 6.8mm Directorate cartage, in accordance with the Directorate Alliance protocol, and the weapon has preformed more than adequate. The 6.8mm D cartage, is however, proprietary and we would have to asses “royalty” rights for production of this round.

The offer is in addition to the original offer, and can be left off with no penalty. Basically, we offer this as a suggestion; you do not have to accept this weapon in the 6.8mm form. We are willing to send several weapons chambered in 6.8 for comparison purposes.

OOC: The MG-3, for your reference, and some information on the 6.8mm NATO round.
MG-3
http://www.world.guns.ru/machine/mg08-e.htm
6.8mm NATO round
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammunition/remington_0303/

A letter arives.

Marshal Lord Ian O'Donnel, Baron of West Tintagel,


We with the republic of Overbear, have another solution for you to consider.

Why put the burden of potential loss of life on your people? Why send your sons and daughters off to fight? We offer some of the most highly trained, well equiped non-domestic military assets in the world. Our trained troops can cost you thousands of dollars less per month than keeping a traditonal army, Plus you gain benifits of keeping your own people safe from harm.

Lets think on that, You can have a standing army, save money, AND keep your populus happy. We take care of everything for you, staffing, battle decisions, weapons, munitions, logistical needs such as health care and houseing.

In turn, we ask the land for the bases be provided by your country, along with the cost of building material for houseing and such. A cost of $1200 per month per troop, plus an additional $800 for officers and "higher function" members such as flight personel, and front line special forces. I think you will find this cost is far lower than what you can msuter your own troops for, including retirement costs, and mothballing of older obsolite equipment.

Obie Sunstreak
Prez for Life, Armed Republic of Overbear.

The Kingdom of North Ulster

May I be so bold to suggest that the modernisation of your military allow for a new platoon lay out. I propose that the lay should be of four sections each of which containing eight men (or other number dividable by two), three of the sections will be the grunts who do all the nasty hand to hand blood and guts fighting while the fourth section would be the platoon command and support section.

For our suggested formation the platoon layout would be as follows;

Section 1, 2, 3

Fire Team 1

Corporal – equipped with the HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Private – equipped with the HK G36
Private – equipped with the HK G36
Private – equipped with the FN Minimi M249 SAW or Para

Fire Team 2

Lance Corp – equipped with the HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Private – equipped with the HK G36
Private – equipped with the HK G36
Private – equipped with the FN Minimi M249 SAW or Para

Command Section (4)***

Lieutenant – equipped with the HK G36
Sergeant - equipped with the HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Radio operator – equipped with the HK G36
Corporal – equipped with the HK G36 and 51mm mortar *
Private – equipped with the HK G36 **
Private – equipped with the FN Minimi Mk.46
Private – equipped with the HK G36 **
Private - equipped with the FN Minimi mk.46

* The 51mm mortar is operated by a single man
** These privates are ammunition carriers for the Mk.46 gunners
*** The sergeant’s weapon can be substituted for a sniper rifle (L96A1 or other that we currently offer) and the AG36 40mm grenade launcher can be attached to the lieutenant’s weapon

The command section stays behind the first three sections in an engagement to provide close fire support for them.

All of the equipment is available through Strategic Arms Incorporated (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413137&page=1&pp=15) Alidor’s leading military supplies manufacturer.

(OOC; The name is a link to my store front)

To the Nation of Overbear;
While we have a long tradition of augmenting our military's most important campaigns with mercenary assistance, we do not make a policy of maintaining mercenary forces during peacetime, especially long term on our own soil.

To the Nation of Alidor;
We see that your proposal offers an excellent degree of maneuverable flexibility and number of individual soldiers. The assault rifle in question is of excellent quality, performing similarly to the XM-8 we are also testing.

That said, we have certain questions. We have been made aware that the G36 assault rifle has a LSW configuration with a 100-round magazine. Why do you reccomend the FN variation support weapons over this design?

Given our current restrictions on significant heavy armour assets, we consider the ability of infantry platoons to contend with enemy tanks very important. Since your allocations remove the potential for infantry platoons to be equipped with anti-tank weaponry. You would then suggest anti-tank firepower be applied at the company level?

Your clarifications are eagerly awaited, and your proposal is under continued testing at this time.

Marshal Lord Ian O'Donnel, Baron of West Tintagel

To the Nation of Overbear;
While we have a long tradition of augmenting our military's most important campaigns with mercenary assistance, we do not make a policy of maintaining mercenary forces during peacetime, especially long term on our own soil.

Marshal Lord Ian O'Donnel, Baron of West Tintagel

Marshal Lord Ian O'Donnel, Baron of West Tintagel,

Mercenary is such a ugly word filled with bitterness. We prefer "non-domestic military personel"

We thank you for considering our offer, we hope in the future to do busness with you if you are in need. Please also glance over our inclosed sales documents on our advanced systems. Both biological and chemical weapons platforms, custom talored to your needs. We can offer a all inclusive system of chemo/bio weapon, deliever system, training, and anti-toxin/anti-virul system. Our labs are some of the best in the world, produceing hundreds of new products a year ready for deploment as both a deterent, and an active weapons platform.

Obie Dion
Prez for life, Republic of Ovebear

The Kingdom of North Ulster

I mistook your request to mean a basic infantry platoon formation I shall begin work on anti-armour formations immediately.

As for why I presented the Minimi variations to you, I am not familiar with the specifications for the G36 LSW but I am pretty sure it has a fixed sight placed with in the carry handle of the weapon along with the rest of the G36 family, with the exception of the G36 compact, where as the Minimi family have a fire rate of up to 1000 rpm can be belt feed or magazine feed and have the Picatinny rail mounting system giving them a wider scope for customization (i.e. the fitting of red dot sights, telescopic sights and night sights depending on need) and an effective range of 800 metres.
The Mk.46 is a 7.62 calibre weapon (and the only Minimi variation that is belt feed only) again fitted with Picatinny rail mounting system and a fire rate of 700 rpm.
The Para and SPW variants have telescopic buts to reduce the overall length of the weapon to make it easier to handle in confined spaces.

I hope this has cleared up my choice in weapons and anti-armour and mortar dedicated units shall be presented to you shortly.

To the nation of Alidor;

We currently deploy a weapons section with each platoon, which may be equipped with either medium machine guns, mortars, or anti-tank weaponry. We are not asking for dedicated anti-armour units, but simply requesting clarification if your propopsal suggests eliminating this option from the platoon level. We understand that our organisation style might benefit from change, and just wish to understand the reasoning behind new variations. We apologise for any confusion.

Marhsal Lord Ian O'Donnel
Baron of West Tintagel

Crookfur Arms;
The first thing our planners noticed was the very diverse selections of weaponry you had suggested. Specifically, we were wondering about the reasoning for your inclusion of the S2A3 LSWs and S5A3 LMG/SAWs together in the squad. As these weapons perform essentially the same function, their inclusion together appears redundant.

Your bid also eliminates the position of sharpshooter from our deployment, replacing them with the role of grenadier. At first met with dubious opinion, this decision has actually proven quite popular; the increased accuracy of your assault rifles eliminates much of the need for the sharpshooters, and the increased hitting power of the grenades is often welcomed. The use of the soft-propelled indirect rounds has been met with mixed success, because of their short range, but this can be amelliorated as we continue the use of our light mortars.

Gentlemen, we await your replies eagerly.

Marshal Lord Ian O'Donnel, Baron of West Tintagel

The reason for using both is the same as why the RL British Army use both the LSW and the M249para in thier infantry sections: the fact that the LSW is simply far too accurate to reliably fufil the role of a Light machine gun in close range fire fights. I had intended for the LSWs to effectiuvely take the place of your sharp shooters hence all the fluff about bolt assit firing modes.
In a number of modern examples the line between LSW/LMG versions of riles is often very blurred good examples being the FALO (heavy barreled version of the FAL, generally used as an LMG but with a few adjustments is more or less identical to your marksman L1A1s), HK 11 (a HK G3 with a heavy MG barrel that is used for sniping...) or Steyr AUG HBAR.

However We could fully understand your reserevations about using such a hybrid weapon so we would be willing to offer packages with the S2A3s replaced with eitherS3A1 sniper rifles (http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/rifles.html#sniper) or additonal S1A3s with AM1 grenade launchers at no increase in package price.

Many thanks for taking the time to cosnider our offer.

As in reply:

That was merely a suggestion of what squad dynamics could be used. If you want a ten man section, I would recommend:

Alpha Team:
1 Sargeant with M-26
1 Rifleman with M-26 and M203A1 Grenade Launcher
1 Rifleman with M-26 and MG Ammo
1 Machine Gunner with LR-117

Bravo Team:
1 Corporal with M-26 and MG Ammo
1 Machine Gunner with LR-117
1 Rifleman with M-26 and AW-89 ammo
1 Rifleman with M-26 and AW-89 Launcher

Charlie Team:
1 Sniper with LR-125
1 Rifleman with M-26

Can you accept this revised proposal?

We would like to suggest the DMI AR-3 Family (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/ar3/ar3.html) of rifles (which includes a carbine suitable to replace your SMGs, a standard assault rifle, a marksman rifle, and a support version, among others).
This rifle uses a standard 7x41 mm electrically fired caseless cartridge in all versions, combining lightweight, logistigal eas, and a serious ballistic punch. (Note: while I do play FT, this rifle is based on existing tech - see http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2300/2384.htm. It should not be considered excessively FT to use in a MT setting.)
This would be supplimented with the SRL (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/srl/srl1.html) family of rocket launchers, the DMI MG-3 (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/mg/mg3.html) Machine gun, and our 60mm mortar (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/arty/mortars/60.html).

We can further offer assiatance with training, advisory capacity, and even cadres, via our affiliate SSO (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419594).

Total bid:
50 AR-3s (of all appropriate variants), 2 SRL- 2s, 1 60 mm mortar, and 2 DMI MG-3s - 200,000 USD.
A bulk order of more than 10,000 rifles, with the appropriate packages, or enough to equip 200 platoons (sufficient for a division), would include a discount, bringing the bid to 40 million USD. With that bid you would also recieve contract for a full years training and advice of a SSO company, also at a discount.

Total bid:
50 million USD.

The Kingdom of North Ulster

I have revised the basic infantry Platoon layout to include light anti-armour weapons

Section 1, 2, 3

Fire Team 1

Corporal – equipped with,
HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
MBT LAW or Predator

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
MBT LAW or Predator

Private – equipped with,
FN Minimi M249 SAW or Para
Remington 870 MCS

Fire Team 2

Lance Corp – equipped with,
HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
MBT LAW or Predator

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
MBT LAW or Predator

Private – equipped with,
FN Minimi M249 SAW or Para
Remington 870 MCS

Command Section (4)

Lieutenant – equipped with,
HK G36 and AG36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Sergeant - equipped with,
Accuracy International L96A1
Beretta PX4 handgun

Corporal – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
51mm mortar *

Radio operator – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
HK G36 **
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
FN Minimi Mk.46
Beretta PX4 storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
HK G36 **
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private equipped with,
FN Minimi mk.46
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

* The 51mm mortar is operated by a single man
** These privates are ammunition carriers for the Mk.46 gunners

As you can see this layout gives you a total of twelve single shot disposable anti-armour missiles.

I have also devised a Milan or Javelin dedicated anti-armour unit

Sections 1, 2 and 3

Fire Team 1

Corporal – equipped with,
HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
Milan of Javelin missile system

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
2 rounds for Milan or Javelin missile system

Private – equipped with,
FN Minimi M249 SAW or Para
Remington 870 MCS

Fire Team 2

Lance Corp – equipped with,
HK G36 and HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
Milan or Javelin missile system

Private – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
2 rounds for Milan or Javelin missile system

Private – equipped with,
FN Minimi M249 SAW or Para
Remington 870 MCS

Command/Observation Section (4)

Lieutenant – equipped with,
HK G36 and AG36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Sergeant - equipped with,
Accuracy International L96A1
Beretta PX4 handgun

Corporal – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun
51mm mortar

Radio operator – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private* – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private – equipped with,
FN Minimi Mk.46
Beretta PX4 storm handgun

Private* – equipped with,
HK G36
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

Private equipped with,
FN Minimi mk.46
Beretta PX4 Storm handgun

* Carries ammunition for the Mk.46 gunner.

With this unit each fire team can fire up to three anti-armour missiles giving you a total of eighteen anti-armour missiles.

I think you will find these layouts of benefit to your army, and don’t forget everything mentioned here is available through our arms manufacturer Strategic Arms Inc (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8698616#post8698616)