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Ok...I open this to discussion...My nation goes imperalistic and starts invading nations (preferable in my region) some have expressed interest and that is mainly what this is for but if anyone else wants to be a part than just type here!

I'd join, probably anti imperialist but I'll see what happens

Aye. Green Sun is allowing people to occupy us for helping us restabilize our government. Perhaps we can arrange something that we withdraw the idea, but your forces to just stay anyways.

Aye. Green Sun is allowing people to occupy us for helping us restabilize our government. Perhaps we can arrange something that we withdraw the idea, but your forces to just stay anyways.

Wait so are going to allow me to do it instead of putting up a fight?

Also I am trying to do it within my region (so that geographically I have a reason) but I am not married to the idea, so if you want to join my region for this rp then that would be great!

Once again, I express my interest in joining. I've already moved to your region, and, as such, am geographically close to you. If you want to have a land border, that would be the easiest thing. You want that mountain. I want that river. That island in that river is mine. Inflammatory remarks in new school textbooks (Okay, okay, I got the idea from Japan) cause hatred of each other in each other's textbooks. You then create a sort of anti-imperialist league with the other RPers, with me as the target. You strike first to retake my illegal claims. And then we go from there.

Wait so are going to allow me to do it instead of putting up a fight?

Also I am trying to do it within my region (so that geographically I have a reason) but I am not married to the idea, so if you want to join my region for this rp then that would be great!
Oh, hell, no, Homer's going to unleash Archers and if you get too close, he'll blow up a nuclear reactor.

Once again, I express my interest in joining. I've already moved to your region, and, as such, am geographically close to you. If you want to have a land border, that would be the easiest thing. You want that mountain. I want that river. That island in that river is mine. Inflammatory remarks in new school textbooks (Okay, okay, I got the idea from Japan) cause hatred of each other in each other's textbooks. You then create a sort of anti-imperialist league with the other RPers, with me as the target. You strike first to retake my illegal claims. And then we go from there.

Well I am thinking of starting by creating an alliance between Third Juresalem and The Massive Ethiopians. Then we invade you, on the premise of libertion amongst other things. Then we, hopefully take you over, and move on to the next target. I want to appear like I am doing a good thing on the outside but from behind the scenes I am just looking for land/resources.

Oh, hell, no, Homer's going to unleash Archers and if you get too close, he'll blow up a nuclear reactor.

Umm...who Homer? and nothing nucleur at all. I hate it. Also can I get some info about your all nations please. So I know some stuff...thanks!

I like your alliance idea and good looking idea. But here's another idea: I invade Green Sun and take him over. I annex him. You then "liberate" me and him, or attempt to do so. Green Sun gets to do his occupation and revolution RPs, and we all get that lovely thing we call war. If y'all win, you just take over Green Sun through a "transitional" government and other puppets. And the same thing goes for me, though you might want to try and weaken me further by dividing me up into smaller nations.

I like your alliance idea and good looking idea. But here's another idea: I invade Green Sun and take him over. I annex him. You then "liberate" me and him, or attempt to do so. Green Sun gets to do his occupation and revolution RPs, and we all get that lovely thing we call war. If y'all win, you just take over Green Sun through a "transitional" government and other puppets. And the same thing goes for me, though you might want to try and weaken me further by dividing me up into smaller nations.

Actually I like that. I would break up you nation and use it as a sort of Soviet Bloc like thing as I continue to be imperalistic. You could control each one individually but would be backing me until you eventually revolt or something. I like it...kind off mixing Cold War and WWII...do you guys wanna start your war tonight and I will start my alliance pack today as well?

Green Sun... I think you should join my region at least too...

Yes, I feel it would be best if Green Sun shared a land border with me, as well as if I shared a land border with you, Nellisland. We really should come up with maps of some sort.

I could be foreign aid to Nellisland, to make this whole thing global. I'm not too great at land fights, but if it turns naval, which it probably will, I can kick butt.

I could be foreign aid to Nellisland, to make this whole thing global. I'm not too great at land fights, but if it turns naval, which it probably will, I can kick butt.

Yeah but I might turn on you just for the hello of it...so be prepared. But I would like G.S. in my region if they are willing.

If Green Sun is willing, this could be a possible map:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/Fluffywuffy/PossibleMap.gif

I'd be interested in providing some limited support to Green Sun in the form of some naval, air and special operations support if the invasion is paticularly bloody, with massacres and civilian targeting - that sort of good stuff. My nation could play a kind of limited interventionist role. I'm thinking that DC would be quite effective in the air and on the seas, but would get quite bloodied in any ground action.

Add TJ, TME, and Gynica to the map please. Give TJ and TME good access to FW and GS please. I kind of need them around...

Gynica might play a Soviet Union part...like a no aggresion pact that I might break or something...

I'd be interested in providing some limited support to Green Sun in the form of some naval, air and special operations support if the invasion is paticularly bloody, with massacres and civilian targeting - that sort of good stuff. My nation could play a kind of limited interventionist role. I'm thinking that DC would be quite effective in the air and on the seas, but would get quite bloodied in any ground action.

If you would like but the intent is too basically betray the allies do you should be aware/ ready for seomthing like that to happen...

Yeah but I might turn on you just for the hello of it...so be prepared. But I would like G.S. in my region if they are willing.


Yeah, that's cool. I've been backstabbed so many times, I'm pretty much used to it by now. ;)

Yeah, that's cool. I've been backstabbed so many times, I'm pretty much used to it by now. ;)

I am sorry to hear that...do wanna come into the region or remain outside of it?

If you would like but the intent is too basically betray the allies do you should be aware/ ready for seomthing like that to happen...

Very good. That should add an interesting dynamic to the whole thing once it's all done. My military personel fight in a far away land for a people they don't even know, and suffer losses for a cause that they don't entirely understand, and eventually are betrayed by those that they believed to be thier allies...

The impact on my nation's personality should be interesting, to say the least.

Very good. That should add an interesting dynamic to the whole thing once it's all done. My military personel fight in a far away land for a people they don't even know, and suffer losses for a cause that they don't entirely understand, and eventually are betrayed by those that they believed to be thier allies...

The impact on my nation's personality should be interesting, to say the least.

Well I would prefer if you all were in the region but I am not married to the idea. Perhaps you are a island off the coast and we get you later...

I am sorry to hear that...do wanna come into the region or remain outside of it?

Don't be sorry, that's life. And nah, I'll stay on my own. (If I leave my current region, A) I don't know the password, B) I lose member privlages, and C) I don't know if they'll let me back in. Besides, it gives it a global edge, you know what I mean?

As i said in the other thread im up for a war. I'm quite happy to be imperialistic but I can be opposed to it too, it doesn't matter I just want to get into an RP.
I can move region too i guess.

COUNT ME IN!!!!!!

Note: Any opponents will face the unmerciful might of the Imperial Army of Yallak. If you want info about my nation heres my factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414268, its not complete but im getting there.

Don't be sorry, that's life. And nah, I'll stay on my own. (If I leave my current region, A) I don't know the password, B) I lose member privlages, and C) I don't know if they'll let me back in. Besides, it gives it a global edge, you know what I mean?

Ok...but then I will most likely have to deal withyour region...but eh!

Well I would prefer if you all were in the region but I am not married to the idea. Perhaps you are a island off the coast and we get you later...

I'd prefer to remain a far away land with extremely long supply lines and a military that's eventually unhappy with getting involved in such a distant conflict - kind of like the United States in Vietnam, or Korea to a lesser extent. Besides, I think my nation might be a bit too big to serve as a viable target for imperialism from Nellisland right now.

I think it'd be better for DC to remain a far away power intervening in far away affairs.

Ok...but then I will most likely have to deal withyour region...but eh!

Don't worry, they'd be fine with it. I'm the eastern most nation anyway, I'm out in the boondocks, and no one cares.

I'd prefer to remain a far away land with extremely long supply lines and a military that's eventually unhappy with getting involved in such a distant conflict - kind of like the United States in Vietnam, or Korea to a lesser extent. Besides, I think my nation might be a bit too big to serve as a viable target for imperialism from Nellisland right now.

I think it'd be better for DC to remain a far away power intervening in far away affairs.

I don't know about the siz problem. I have ways around that, but yeah you probably wouldn't be a target, perhaps maybe an ally...mmm...interesting...I wish Green Sun would get back on...

Ok, here's another map:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/Fluffywuffy/PossibleMap2.gif

And for the hell of it, here's mine:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/zimmy60/PschycoticPschycosNationalMap.jpg

Sorry, it's a bit big.

By the way, to clarify a little, I'm kinda like DC; a lone far of nation with long supply routes, etc..., much like the US. It adds a bit of color. Plus, it suits my more naval abilities.

I'd prefer to remain a far away land with extremely long supply lines and a military that's eventually unhappy with getting involved in such a distant conflict - kind of like the United States in Vietnam, or Korea to a lesser extent. Besides, I think my nation might be a bit too big to serve as a viable target for imperialism from Nellisland right now.

I think it'd be better for DC to remain a far away power intervening in far away affairs.

You could be a target for me

You could be a target for me

Either that or i could remain a far away power too

Listen, I'm turning off for the night, so if you agree on anything big, or come to any conclusions, please let me know. Thank you.

You could be a target for me

I suppose so. I'm open to being a target of imperialism for any nation, be they bigger or smaller than DC, but I believe the problem lies more in the realm of whether or not you believe, ICly, that it is not just possible, but logical for your nation to attack me.

Think about it ICly - if you're a big nation with imperialistic habits, do you attack nations smaller than yourself to gain their resources, territory etc. and build up that way, or do you attack a nation larger than yourself and exert much more effort to get the same amount of resources that you would have gotten through attacking multiple small nations one by one?

But, if you really want to ICly, then I'm open to being attacked for logical reasons.

I suppose so. I'm open to being a target of imperialism for any nation, be they bigger or smaller than DC, but I believe the problem lies more in the realm of whether or not you believe, ICly, that it is not just possible, but logical for your nation to attack me.

Think about it ICly - if you're a big nation with imperialistic habits, do you attack nations smaller than yourself to gain their resources, territory etc. and build up that way, or do you attack a nation larger than yourself and exert much more effort to get the same amount of resources that you would have gotten through attacking multiple small nations one by one?

But, if you really want to ICly, then I'm open to being attacked for logical reasons.

Well, the history of my nation means that we never expand for land but we will intervene in overseas wars to aid other nations. ICly i could invade you to stop your attacking of another nation (o something similar)
Plus i haven't rp'd in a year so im willing to war anyone really - but i guess it'll depend on whether i join to be imperialistic or not - i don't mind doing either, Nellisland can decide if e wants my help or another enemy.

Well, I feel that it should start with Green Sun being invade by FW...then I make a pact with TJ and TME then we liberate GS and put in an intern government (Puppey) and take out FW and break them up in too several puppets. Then we will go on from there as to who we move on to next...

Well, the history of my nation means that we never expand for land but we will intervene in overseas wars to aid other nations. ICly i could invade you to stop your attacking of another nation (o something similar)
Plus i haven't rp'd in a year so im willing to war anyone really - but i guess it'll depend on whether i join to be imperialistic or not - i don't mind doing either, Nellisland can decide if e wants my help or another enemy.

I wouldnt mine the help cause I am probably going to be met with a lot of po'ed nations after they figure out whats going on. So maybe I should add you to the pact...maybe...

I wouldnt mine the help cause I am probably going to be met with a lot of po'ed nations after they figure out whats going on. So maybe I should add you to the pact...maybe...

As i said i have no objections to either option, and I will be able to come up with IC reasons for doing either too.

As i said i have no objections to either option, and I will be able to come up with IC reasons for doing either too.

Okay..prefect...now all we need is FW and GS to go at it!

We could start the RP now - with you readying your forces.

We could start the RP now - with you readying your forces.

No cause they have to go to war first so I can make the allaince then we mobilize troops.

No cause they have to go to war first so I can make the allaince then we mobilize troops.

ahh ok

If Green Sun is willing, this could be a possible map:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/Fluffywuffy/PossibleMap.gif
I already have a map.

Also, let's have this as a solution: Our regions are bordering. I'm in the same region as Risban, the main military force opposing the largest Military force in Green Sun, General Homer. He's also a close ally, so that's why I moved tehre in teh first place. By having our regions border, that makes them all close enoygh. Besides, we only have 6 nations.

THINGS YOU WILL NOT DO:
Execute General Homer or his COs. That'll be MY job and I'll do that on my own decision, whether you guys like that or not.

Execute the power of the Royal Family or the Council of Theocrats. You can have a direct political say and restrict their power, but completely restricting their power would make the ENTIRE populace take up arms. Do not persecute the Royal Family, either. If you want to ban them from returning to Green Sun, you may, since I plan for Prince Jordan to marry a Risbanian noblewoman.

And if you're a Anti-GWB, you can hunt him, but DO NOT kill him. He's got Royal Protection, which kinda makes him part of the Royal Family. Our last President, Uziel, allowed him to stay in Green Sun after being chased out of the former USA by an angry Liberal mob. He went to the onl familiar face, which was Uziel, who was a former Government guinea pig. He also has abig heart, which Georgie knew, and used that to make Green Sun a safe haven.

So don't kill those people and you'll be fine^^

I am fine with that so does one of you wanna start the RP or should I...plus do i Have to worry abotu your region?

Basicly, no. Risbanian forces will be on GS soil, so you don't want to piss them off. ONI Concordiat, too. General Homer is the Bigwig leader of the Green Sun military. The Socialist Front are the resistance fighters. What happens to teh SF or Homer's forces don't matter, even though that's my ENTIRE military. I can rebuild, Green Sun is cool like that.

Basicly, no. Risbanian forces will be on GS soil, so you don't want to piss them off. ONI Concordiat, too. General Homer is the Bigwig leader of the Green Sun military. The Socialist Front are the resistance fighters. What happens to teh SF or Homer's forces don't matter, even though that's my ENTIRE military. I can rebuild, Green Sun is cool like that.

ok

GS do you wanna start the Rp or should we have FW start it...

Just update in teh current Civil War thread.

Well I am not really involned with that until he takes you over. Then I get involved. I am waiting for a reason to start my alliance.

Well I am not really involned with that until he takes you over. Then I get involved. I am waiting for a reason to start my alliance.

remember to let me know whether you want me as aid or enemy too

remember to let me know whether you want me as aid or enemy too

Yes...you will get a telegram!

Is FluffyWuffy on?

No...so...

Yes...you will get a telegram!

ok

Just wondering, so that way we could continue the RP.

Just wondering, so that way we could continue the RP.

We will probably be starting it tommorow...

Tomorrow? I'll have a Psychiatrist appointement, but hopefully i'll be able to get on.

Tomorrow? I'll have a Psychiatrist appointement, but hopefully i'll be able to get on.

Ok...Well I hope you can get on!

I'm still interested if this is still open, I'd like to remain a distant ally of someone or I have some smaller puppets that I could put in the region to side with one or the other

Nellisland, unless the DAFP's been shucked, you've got about half a regiment of my people at the Bravo and Charlie sites-Nellisland goes imperialist, they're going to have to be dealt with somehow.

I want in-a bit part for a while. If you can find some really-really-really north property in your region, I'm even 'portable'. (incidentally, that also means you've got about a battalion and a half at the JRTC 'Prime" site-which might be of use...)

TG me. (PLEASE!!!) I haven't really worked out a "war" RP since I was Nuevo Kowloon (last year in March), and my nation works great as a wild-card.

I've even got something you can use as a pretext getting ready to kick off... If I can find "Neighbours" to piss off. (142 thermonuclear bombs being used to "Gently" pry a loose faultline open and create a harbour... such a massive underground test could even be used as a moral justification for removing those lunatics from power!)

Nellisland, unless the DAFP's been shucked, you've got about half a regiment of my people at the Bravo and Charlie sites-Nellisland goes imperialist, they're going to have to be dealt with somehow.

I want in-a bit part for a while. If you can find some really-really-really north property in your region, I'm even 'portable'. (incidentally, that also means you've got about a battalion and a half at the JRTC 'Prime" site-which might be of use...)

TG me. (PLEASE!!!) I haven't really worked out a "war" RP since I was Nuevo Kowloon (last year in March), and my nation works great as a wild-card.

I've even got something you can use as a pretext getting ready to kick off... If I can find "Neighbours" to piss off. (142 thermonuclear bombs being used to "Gently" pry a loose faultline open and create a harbour... such a massive underground test could even be used as a moral justification for removing those lunatics from power!)

Um...you can be involved but I am pretty sure the DAFP has fallen at least for now. Maybe we can do it after this war thingy or something. If you want in then we can pick a spot for you.

bump...any thing else to diccuss...

I'm ready to start whenever the rest of you are. I'll come in on Nellisland's side, and I'll find some odd way to come one. Let me know when you're ready.

I am ready. Just as soon as Green Sun is ready, I shall launch the invasion that starts this whole RP. Also, because Yallak asked, I've added him to the map. He's in an odd spot, but oh well.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/Fluffywuffy/PossibleMap3.gif

Alright. I read most of the thread. I'm all for your region being near the Consortium of Shadows.

Geography of the Consortium:
A nation continent approximately the size of Europe and Asia (you can be connected to this). And then there is a huge system of islands owned mainly by Risban. (Since I suck with maps and have no tools, I don't have a map up of the region. Sorry!)

Territories of the Consortium of Shadows:
Risban
-Vexus
-Tomnaboley
-Hantul
-Wandersleben
-Tanzanasty
-Slade Craven
-Camos
-Pelamor
Green Sun
Zeitz (Not to be touched by this conflict)
Willink
Fat Flan (Not to be touched by this conflict)
Pax Topaz
Sodalitas de Umbras (Not to be touched by this conflict since they only own a small island in the middle of a Risbanian chain of islands)
Unknown/Unsettled Territories


Risban is founder/UN Delegate of the region and shares a continental border with most of the nations. However, much of Risban's territory is on the islands, and there are Imperial ships all over the region as Risban does rule the waves. In Risban there are military bases from Golencia, the Borman Empire, the Committee of Vigilance (Upper Xen), Green Sun, and some smaller ones that I can't remember. Lol.


I'd recommend not actually invading Risban, partly 'cause I dislike military RPs... And I don't want you to turn out like Muru did. He launched terrorist attacks on me and hit embassies from so many other nations that he was just squashed. Lol.

Though, I will be militarily involved as a foreign force occupying Green Sun would alert all Imperial forces, and any military movements in the region would spark alarm.

Mind you right now that, given the Green Sun Civil War, Risban holds the far southern portion of Green Sun under its control right now in support of the Loyalists and Royal Family. That's where an Imperial naval base, airfield, marine armory, and military base are, so of course Risban will be holding that off if Green Sun approves.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8084093#post8084093
There's more information on Imperial Foreign Affairs for questions and such.

If you wish, I could possibly draw a map of your region. Mind you, it won't be high quality--just like the maps above. I might need to edit the map above because I think GS said he had his own map, but that's something for another time.

Anyways, I don't intend to invade Risban. The purpose of invading Green Sun is to give a reason for Nellisland and co. to invade me. At that point I'll be fending off everyone from all directions, and, because of that, don't intend to be launching any long distance invasions. It is likely that after the invasion of Green Sun and possible killing of your troops stationed there, I won't do anything else, unless you actively pursue it by liberating Green Sun.

If you wish, I could possibly draw a map of your region. Mind you, it won't be high quality--just like the maps above. I might need to edit the map above because I think GS said he had his own map, but that's something for another time.

Anyways, I don't intend to invade Risban. The purpose of invading Green Sun is to give a reason for Nellisland and co. to invade me. At that point I'll be fending off everyone from all directions, and, because of that, don't intend to be launching any long distance invasions. It is likely that after the invasion of Green Sun and possible killing of your troops stationed there, I won't do anything else, unless you actively pursue it by liberating Green Sun.



Risban doesn't like getting into active wars, so it won't actively pursue anything militantly. Heh.

I TGed you concerning a map.

I was just making a note that Risbanian Forces ARE there. I have my own map, it's in one thread, let me find it.

Ok, let you find it. Risban is having me make a map of y'alls region, so a map of you would be easy to slap onto your continent. I'll T-gram that to Risban in a little bit. If you can't find it, I'll draw some random shape as you.

Also, Green Sun, if you are willing, may we begin our RP?

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/8922/wartorngreensun2ls.th.png (http://img82.echo.cx/my.php?image=wartorngreensun2ls.png)
^Map. Hopefully it WORKS. And yeah, give me twenty minutes and I'll be ready. You can actuually start now if you'd like. Remember you're facing 3/4 of the Green Sun military.

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/8922/wartorngreensun2ls.th.png (http://img82.echo.cx/my.php?image=wartorngreensun2ls.png)
^Map. Hopefully it WORKS. And yeah, give me twenty minutes and I'll be ready. You can actuually start now if you'd like. Remember you're facing 3/4 of the Green Sun military.


Lol. Can you increase the size of that map? 'Tis tiny.

PP, reporting ready.

Hey Risban, welcome to the RP! My question to would be if you would like to be part of the imperalistic force cause I am having a meeting right about it if Yallak and TME will go there. I am basically go to introduce the idea of seizing control of the region(s) and become large powers in the world. If you would like to be a part of that then just ask. If not then we will find somewhere to place you!

I KNEW it! HAHA!

Try this one:
http://img82.echo.cx/my.php?image=wartorngreensun2ls.png

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419864

For the meeting place if you would like in Risban, but I can start it till the others arrive.

Is FW even on? I'm pretty much free today.

Well, Green Sun, I don't know what timezone you are in, but I am in the U.S. Eastern timezone. I usually get on at 6:00-6:30, depending on who wants to use the stupid phone. (My Lord, I hate dial-up. Ever since we've moved, we haven't had DSL anymore. Whoever neglected to include my neighborhood on the DSL list should be tortured in the most evil and painful ways for all eternity.) Anyways, I'm glad you've got that map. Now I can update Risban and y'all's regional map to include your nation (minus the military symbols, of course). I'll t-gram Risban the next beta release of that.

Anyways, I'm going to start the invasion soon. I'll link to it in here, and I'll leave it closed to Green Sun and Risban, as Risban has assets in Green Sun. I suppose Nellisland can define who else should enter. I hope to launch a detailed and descriptive war, so please don't let everything over-awe y'all. I'll even copy Green Sun's map and draw my own lines on it, so as to further avoid confusion. (And confusion over where you are attacking leads to useless OOC comments, godmodding, etc.)

Yeah, I'm EST, too. I'm usually available, depending on how much homeowrk I've got or how annoying my mom is.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420182 <----- That's where you'll find my invasion of Green Sun. I haven't technically started invading *yet*, but I have mobilised my army and sent my fleet off of his coast.