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History: The armed force of the Union of Communist Republics (Pushka), have funded this project to meet the requirements of their ground forces. The aging BMP-3s and BMD-1s will be replaced by this model and its modifications, upon complition. Polkovnik Leonid Mituhin is the head of the project, he was given controll over Kirov's Trucktor-Vehicle Factory in Nupletsk, to complete his task.

Schematic:

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1. Radar/Infrared Radar hybrid (CRS)
2. ATGW launchers (# of launchers=4)
3. 80 mm, Dragunov TP-3 electronically fired chain gun
4. Armored tires, radius=70 centimeters (# of tires=6)
5. Firing hatches (# of firing hatches=6)


Features shown on the shematic:

1. CRS is a newly introduced Radar/Infrared Radar hybrid. It has qualities of both. It is placed on the turret of the Dragunov TP-3 chaingun, and rotates 360 degrees around its pole. Effective range of the radar is 9 kilometers, of the infrared radar, 6 kilometers.

2. ATGW launchers are basically just metal tubes, placed on a pole with a single ATGW in them. Different size tubes can be placed, the variant shown on the picture can fire 4 AT-8 ATGWs at the effective range of about 4 kilometers. ATGWs in this variant have a laser guidance system, affective to 2.7 kilometers.

3. Dragunov TP-3 Chain Gun, is fired electronically by the gunner who is sitting inside the vehicle. It has a rate of fire 400 rounds per minute in the fully automatic mode, but also has a semi-automatic mode. It can fire several types of rounds, including:
7,62mm mod. 1943 7N23 AP
7, 65 mm mod. Dragunov ER
7, 61 mm Dragunov TR
7, 54 mm Dragunov AA

AP-Armor Piercing
ER-Explosive Round
TR-Training Round
AA-Anti Aircraft

The gunner can select the type of ammunition on his firing display inside the cabin.

The chain gun turret can spin 360 degrees, the gun itself can move up and down from -12 degrees to 80 degrees and can be used as an anti-aircraft gun as well as an anti-personnal or anti-armored vehicle gun.

The chain gun turret, has a thermal sight installed, to be used as an aiming device by the gunner. It is also fitted with a range finder.

The effective range varies from 700 meters to 1400 meters, in the semi- automatic mode, depending on the round and from 400 meters to 1100 meters in the fully automatic mode depending on the round.

4. The armored tires are fitted with a 8 mm titanium plate on the sides for protection against gun fire. They are placed on a loose axis and the texture of the tire is especially styled in order to avoid getting stuck in the mud.

5. Firing hatches can be opened by the man inside the vehicle, to be used as protected firing positions. a hatch is about 30 centimeters long, 15 wide. The door of the armored door of the hatch only opens outward, and is made of the same material as the rest of the armor. Protection measures were taken in order to keep it from being open from the ourside the vehicle.

Engine:
The vehicle has a single V3P21 diesel engine. It gives, a nice 21.34hp/ton power to weight ratio, and 570 horsepower. The engine is protected by armored plates and is located in the front of the vehicle, under the armored hood. The maximum speed is 87 kilometers per hour.

Amphibious Capabilities:

In water the vehicle is propelled by a powerful, 1200 horsepower, water pump, to get the maximum speed of 21 knots per hour. The water slides down the slope of the front part of the vehicle, creating an underwater current right below the wheels, thus not interfering with the vehicles movement through water.

Armor:
The armor is made up of 3.2 centimeter thick Steel/Aluminum plates. It is distributed evenly around the vehicle, exept for the entering/exeting hatch (4.1 centimeters) and the hood (3.7 centimeters).

Navigation:

The vehicle has a newly developed ONS nagivation system. It creates a satelite network between all the vehicles and the HQs, any single vehicle can send a picture of the area or a map to any other vehicle over the satelite. Also the position of the known enemy units and of the known freindly units is shown.

The driver does not have a front window, the front of the vehicle is covered by armor. He does however have an outside view by looking at the screen on the radar, as well as the separate thermal sight.

Self-Protection Measures:

Arena-E:

The system weighs between 1 – 1.3 tons (depending on the coverage and configuration) and uses a fixed, omni-directional radar, that covers a sector of 220 – 290 degrees around the NBM-1. The protective charges are housed in a "belt" of 22-26 protective charges (depending on the turret size and shape), each positioned to cover a specific sector. Once an incoming threat is detected by the radar, the system ejects a charge above and sideways from the NBM, to a position best suited for intercepting the target. As the charge explodes, it throws a deadly hail of fragments downward, to shutter and destroy the incoming projectile. The system is capable of engaging incoming missiles, at speeds ranging from 70 to 700 meters per second. The system creates a virtual "cone" shaped shield at a radius of 20-30 meters from the NBM, and its response time, from target detection to destruction is 0.07 seconds. When the system is triggered, a warning signal is activated, to warn infantrymen that may be following the NBM to open some distance or take cover.


Other Information:

-The vehicle weights 9231 kgs combat ready, 7549 kgs unloaded.
-The crew (in this variant) is made up of the driver, and the gunner.
-The back compartment can fit in an 8 men squad.
-The buttom of the vehicle is V-shaped to divert the mine blasts.


Cost: 270000 USD

Other Variants:

NBM-1SV:
The armored wheels are replaced with GTA-12 MBT tracks, Dragunov TP-3 Chain gun is replaced by a 105 mm smoothbore gun able to fire HEAT, HE as well as KE rounds, with a 20 mm Dragunov PP-1 electronically fired machine gun on top of the barrel. Additional weight was added in order to be able to fire the main gun. This vehicle is not amphibious. The ATGW launchers were removed. This variant is made as a quick response attack vehicle.

Cost: 290000 USD

NBM-1CP:
The armor protection was increased to 4.5 centimeters, the turret was shrinked and now only possesses a Dragunov 30 mm PP-2 electronically fired machine gun. This variant is used as a mobile command post or for electronical warfare.

Cost: 255000 USD

NBM-1VP:
The armor was replaced with 3 cm aluminum/titanium plates. The weight was dropped to 5378 killograms while combat ready. The turret was replaced by a manned 30 mm PP-2 machine gun and two ATGW launchers. This is an airborne/amphibious version of the vehicle used by the paratrooper divisions.

Cost: 256000 USD

NBM-1VM:

All the weapons were removed, along with the turret, the wheels were replaced with GAT-12 MBT tracks. The vehicle is usually connected by an articular joint, to a mobile transporting unit, which is basically a huge armored container, placed on tracks. This vehicle is not amphibious. It is used as a supply and transportational vechicle for the ground forces.

Cost: 261000 USD

NBM-1ASV:

This variant is only for domestic use and purchase by the allies.

-The wheels were replaced with GAT-17 "Gussar" MBT tracks. Tracks were placed further below the vehicle then in NBM-1SV.
-The machine gun was replaced with a 105 mm ELGG gun, able to fire HE, HEAT and other types of rounds. An electronically fired, Dragunov PP-1 is placed on top of the barrel.
-Six AT-8 ATGW launchers are placed behind the turret at a higher angle then the original version, effective range is now roughly 5 kilometers, with the improved guidance system effective at 4.1 kilometers.
-A row of speacially designed, heat absorbing hair-like fibers are put between the track and the ground, that dramatically reduces the heat signature.
-Naupir-1 is introduced to the original design.
-The engine was replaced with V3P22 478 hp engine.

-Cost: 292000 USD

Oh yeah, the pic was drawn by me, and i know its not very good, but still if you wanna use it somethere, you have to ask me first.

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Nice vehicle. Your drawings not bad actually. But I'll order 200,000 of the NBM-1SV versions.

Total Cost:$58,000,000,000

Suggestions:

You might want to put a more powerful engine that can produce at least 700 hp. Also could you add the ATGW launchers on the NBM-1SV again and make it amphibious. I'll pay $300,000 for each of those.

You don't really need a powerful engine for an IFV but sure, i can add that. As for ATGW launchers, why would you need them? But sure i can put that up as well. Actually, i think i am gonna have a new version only to be sold for the allies and for me. I'll do ti right now, just wait ten minutes.

i have a 44 mag revolver that can punch through an inch of steel at 20 yards so how do you think ur tank will stand up to anti-tank fire? you would need more like 2 or 3 inches of armor and no aluminum that would be like tearing paper

This is not a tank, this is an IFV. My armor should do fine against bullet fire or even AP bullet fire. And just for the record, T-34 armor was 45 mm of steel, an 80 mm cannon could not punch through that.

Thanks. I'll buy the following:

400,000 NBM-1ASV

Total Price:$117,000,000,000

Very nice IFV. It will fit perfectly in my army. I also added an extra $3 billion since this is what I was in need of and since your my ally.

Money Will Be Wired Upon Confirmation

Kazakhstania would like to purchase:

2,500 NBM-1VP's

That would be:

$640,000,000

The Republic of Kazkahstania thanks you for your great Paratrooper vehicle, and asks that we could gain closer links between our militaries, with cross planning if possible.

i have a 44 mag revolver that can punch through an inch of steel at 20 yards so how do you think ur tank will stand up to anti-tank fire? you would need more like 2 or 3 inches of armor and no aluminum that would be like tearing paper
Aluminium alloys are actually the strongest metals currently known to man. They just have an unhealthy tendancy to catch fire.

The British learnt this the hard way by sending an aluminium ship to the Falklands, I believe.

The inclusion of titanium in the armor should make it an even more powerful compund, however.

The British learnt this the hard way by sending an aluminium ship to the Falklands, I believe.

The inclusion of titanium in the armor should make it an even more powerful compund, however.
More than one... but they weren't alloys, nor were they layered armour schemes, they were just cheap.

Typical MOD budget cuts. There are even more on the way, which means we are going to be reduced to a coastal submarine fleet.

Typical MOD budget cuts. There are even more on the way, which means we are going to be reduced to a coastal submarine fleet.
I know. Labour is selling off 6 Type 23s and they're barely 4 years old! Well, so long as we still get Type 45 (though they've cut that project in half already), CVF, JSF and Astute (also already cut... replacing 2 whole classes with 3 subs is just not on) I'm happy-ish.

Thanks. I'll buy the following:

400,000 NBM-1ASV

Total Price:$117,000,000,000

Very nice IFV. It will fit perfectly in my army. I also added an extra $3 billion since this is what I was in need of and since your my ally.

Money Will Be Wired Upon Confirmation

Nice doing business with you, you will receive your vehicles in 2 months. (or whatever time you like)

Kazakhstania would like to purchase:

2,500 NBM-1VP's

That would be:

$640,000,000

The Republic of Kazkahstania thanks you for your great Paratrooper vehicle, and asks that we could gain closer links between our militaries, with cross planning if possible.

Your order is confirmed, your vehicles will be delivered to you in 2 months (anytime you like actually). We are always looking for partners, we are interested to pursue a closer relationship between our militaries and our nations.

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The Armed Republic of the Vivid Dead is looking to modernise its army, and these vehicles might be a good start. We would like to order 5,000 standard NBM-1s and 2,500 NBM-1SVs, for a grand total of US$ 2,075,000,000.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have any other modern war equipment for sale? Our troops are mostly still fighting with WWII-era equipment: Dirt cheap, but it's getting too outdated now, and we're looking to replace most of it.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

General Blaine Bartholomew

just a note, aluminium burns fiercely remember sir galahad in the falklands.
are these based on dunlop unbreakable tires, i would suggest the use of them.
a snow shovel / dozer blade would be useful for passing obstacles. attachments for spades, axes, ropes. little things like that. pistol ports.
IR sensors and gun sights, 360 commander's couplar.
I suggest looking at the British saracen or Saxon APCs for desgin features eg - blow-away mud guards against land mines.

are you into designing planes? i have an idea for new generation of russian/eastern planes.

I was just wondering how you justify putting an 80mm chain cannon on an IFV? theres no possible reason for using anything bigger than a 30mm gattling on an IFV that I can think of, its big its heavy, its expensive, you couldn't carry very much ammo for it. For the record, saying that 45mm of anything short of adamantium steel (A fictional alloy) could not be penetrated by an 80mm shell is patently false, a 30mm gattling cannon can take out an M-1 abrams tank (albeit, thats a very powerfu, DU tipped armor piercing, as long as my forearm 30mm shell, my point stands) and an abrams is much more armored than 45mm of steel. in a modern setting 45mm of steel would be enough to protect against standard infantry bullets, light ap bullets and some heavier ap bullets at long range, a .50 caliber anti material sniper rifle firing .50 BMG rounds could punch through the armor and still retain enough kinetic energy to penetrate and crack the engine block of a better tank than the T-34. an 80mm shell would be enough to pentrate the front armor of a T-34 and exit the rear armor of the same T-34.

80mm is more of a light mortar shell than it is something I would create an electrically fired chain gun to shoot.

looking at your post more closely it appears that you forgot a decimal point and you meant 8.0mm. this brings a whole different range of problems: one that you couldn't fire the 7.62 and smaller round through it that you claim to be (the gas that makes bullet actually go anywhere would go around the bullet and the bullet would go nowhere) and the fact that for an IFV, 8mm is very underpowered, you might want at least a 12.3 or, if you like russian calibers they have a bigger 13.something or other round.

The Vivid Dead']The Armed Republic of the Vivid Dead is looking to modernise its army, and these vehicles might be a good start. We would like to order 5,000 standard NBM-1s and 2,500 NBM-1SVs, for a grand total of US$ 2,075,000,000.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have any other modern war equipment for sale? Our troops are mostly still fighting with WWII-era equipment: Dirt cheap, but it's getting too outdated now, and we're looking to replace most of it.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

General Blaine Bartholomew

Confirmed, and yes i do have an old storfront lying around somethere, i'll post hte link.

I was just wondering how you justify putting an 80mm chain cannon on an IFV? theres no possible reason for using anything bigger than a 30mm gattling on an IFV that I can think of, its big its heavy, its expensive, you couldn't carry very much ammo for it. For the record, saying that 45mm of anything short of adamantium steel (A fictional alloy) could not be penetrated by an 80mm shell is patently false, a 30mm gattling cannon can take out an M-1 abrams tank (albeit, thats a very powerfu, DU tipped armor piercing, as long as my forearm 30mm shell, my point stands) and an abrams is much more armored than 45mm of steel. in a modern setting 45mm of steel would be enough to protect against standard infantry bullets, light ap bullets and some heavier ap bullets at long range, a .50 caliber anti material sniper rifle firing .50 BMG rounds could punch through the armor and still retain enough kinetic energy to penetrate and crack the engine block of a better tank than the T-34. an 80mm shell would be enough to pentrate the front armor of a T-34 and exit the rear armor of the same T-34.

80mm is more of a light mortar shell than it is something I would create an electrically fired chain gun to shoot.

Then i was talking about T-34 i refered to world war 2 era gun, and shells. You misunderstood.

just a note, aluminium burns fiercely remember sir galahad in the falklands.
are these based on dunlop unbreakable tires, i would suggest the use of them.
a snow shovel / dozer blade would be useful for passing obstacles. attachments for spades, axes, ropes. little things like that. pistol ports.
IR sensors and gun sights, 360 commander's couplar.
I suggest looking at the British saracen or Saxon APCs for desgin features eg - blow-away mud guards against land mines.

are you into designing planes? i have an idea for new generation of russian/eastern planes.

Well, i know the basics i guess, i designed my own jet fighter. i would like to see your idea. Yeah, i been looking over and i realized that i need to change few things in this vehicle. not the chain gun, but the armor to, i wrote this on a piece of notebook paper while not listening to the lecture on radiation which i thankfully tape recorded, i had no reference materials and then no time to check this, well, i'll chage few things then i have time.