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The sliver queen had been aware of the nation of samtonia for some time, until recently they had not been a threat, now they had classified the hive as a dangerous entity to be destroyed on sight, the queen sees this act as openly hostile to the survival of the hive and has decided that the threat posed by Samtonia must be eliminated as soon as possible and with all necessary force. We have sent the forces of the hive to deal with this threat, to this end we have sent the first and third mobile legionas totaling 1 million troops to Samtonia, they will arrive within eight hours of our sending this message.

OOC:
Tag.
Ill most likely be supporting Samtonia, if he acknowledges this thread.

[OOC- Tag. I'll get up a reply. And, just so you know, you'll be wanting to get your troops to me by sea, as there really aren't any land approaches through territory you could ever get through, i.e: AMF, Pantera, etc... so, unless you all plop out of the sky at once, you'll be going by sea. And I'll get a map up for you ASAP.

BMG, thanks for support. ICly, you'll probably be able to get some troops over to help at least a bit.]

... there really aren't any land approaches through territory you could ever get through, i.e: AMF, Pantera, etc...


OOC: Yep.

[TAG]

OOC: Sea, hah, my troops can get there by air if they try hard enough, but sea will work well enough, my transport slivers should do the job just fine. I'm sending my forces in transports, half by air and half by sea.

[OOC- Here's the map.

http://img17.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img17&image=Samtonia.gif

Anything near the sea is cliffs along the coast up until Bunsen, really. High cliffs. No beaches, rocky, etc....

Most agricultural areas are from Azov to Constubly and from Decidia to the Shieldbreakers. Major cities pictures, heavily industrialized otherwise on most non-farming areas. Major bases liberally scattered around. Any questions, just ask!

EDIT- Contact info online? AIM, MSN, ICQ, they're all good. Just give me the nickname for online. If you've got one. Thanks!]

The transports were coming up on the coast and the enemy would probably be detecting them soon, hopefully the transports could take a beating from the SAMs that were bound to be scattered on the coast, the troops that would be sent in by sea were minutes behind the airborne battalions but they would be ready to attack faster than the airborne forces.

Forces en route:

First and second legionas for a total of 1 million troops

Air wing is composed of ten winged slivers and five flame slivers per transport

Each transport holds twenty troops and a ten sliver engineering squad

the troops will arrive within thirty minutes.

[OOC- Here's the map.

http://img17.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img17&image=Samtonia.gif

Anything near the sea is cliffs along the coast up until Bunsen, really. High cliffs. No beaches, rocky, etc....

Most agricultural areas are from Azov to Constubly and from Decidia to the Shieldbreakers. Major cities pictures, heavily industrialized otherwise on most non-farming areas. Major bases liberally scattered around. Any questions, just ask!

EDIT- Contact info online? AIM, MSN, ICQ, they're all good. Just give me the nickname for online. If you've got one. Thanks!]

OPwhiteguy on AIM

First and second legionas for a total of 1 million troops

Air wing is composed of ten winged slivers and five flame slivers per transport

Each transport holds twenty troops and a ten sliver engineering squad

the troops will arrive within thirty minutes.
[OOC- Whoah, whoah, hold on a moment. I do have a navy and an airforce, both of which will be moving to engage almost as soon as your forces appear on the scope. Consider your forces about 100 km. from my lands. I'll get in some killing before you hit land. Plus I need to start marshalling forces, etc...

Besides that, it's all good.]

The GSB Flarg moved relativly silently through the waters off Samtonia, just skirting the International Waters boundery.
Of course, the sound of enough transports to carry 1,000,000 Slivers showed up on the passive sonar quite well.
The three Seawolf class subs quickly rallied, formed up and steamed north toward the Sliver invasion forces, moving just under the detection threshold, meaning that unless it was using active sonar, no Sliver ship would detect them unless it was right on top of them.
Vanya moved up towards periscope depth, intent on spotting the Sliver fleet and being able to give a somewhat accurate force-composition, since the massive amount of thrashing was making any sort of determination nearly impossible from below water.
Meanwhile the other two subs moved either side of the convoys projected path, hoping to catch the transports in a crossfire.

---

The debate was raging in Gundabad, not about whether or not to join the conflict, but about how many Goblins to send...and about the composition of the Kings beer. Apparently it had floaty bits in it.
After much debate and only one beheading a dispatch was sent to Samtonia offering aid in the area of 50,000 Goblins along with tanks, as well as a number of navy ships to prevent further sea invasions.

---

Flarg sat quietly, hovering just under the layer of cold water that tended to screw with active sonar to some degree, of course this also interfered with its own detection systems, but the torpedos it was about to launch would be moving above this interferance and would have a clear picture of a nearly solid mass of transport ships...
"Lets see if dem wormy fings can swim, eh?" The captain grinned.
Slivers tasted good, especialy after they had marinated in salt water for a while.

OOC:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8865617&posted=1#post8865617
Samtonia, might want to check this out.
IM sure you dont want people selling the crazy worm-things weapons :P

[OOC: Tag, since I happen to be right next to Samtonia...]

[OOC- Whoah, whoah, hold on a moment. I do have a navy and an airforce, both of which will be moving to engage almost as soon as your forces appear on the scope. Consider your forces about 100 km. from my lands. I'll get in some killing before you hit land. Plus I need to start marshalling forces, etc...

Besides that, it's all good.]

OOC: They're doing just a bit below mach 1, they'll reach the coast in abolut thirty minutes at that speed, I figured you'd end up attacking my troops.

The GSB Flarg moved relativly silently through the waters off Samtonia, just skirting the International Waters boundery.
Of course, the sound of enough transports to carry 1,000,000 Slivers showed up on the passive sonar quite well.
The three Seawolf class subs quickly rallied, formed up and steamed north toward the Sliver invasion forces, moving just under the detection threshold, meaning that unless it was using active sonar, no Sliver ship would detect them unless it was right on top of them.
Vanya moved up towards periscope depth, intent on spotting the Sliver fleet and being able to give a somewhat accurate force-composition, since the massive amount of thrashing was making any sort of determination nearly impossible from below water.
Meanwhile the other two subs moved either side of the convoys projected path, hoping to catch the transports in a crossfire.

---

The debate was raging in Gundabad, not about whether or not to join the conflict, but about how many Goblins to send...and about the composition of the Kings beer. Apparently it had floaty bits in it.
After much debate and only one beheading a dispatch was sent to Samtonia offering aid in the area of 50,000 Goblins along with tanks, as well as a number of navy ships to prevent further sea invasions.

---

Flarg sat quietly, hovering just under the layer of cold water that tended to screw with active sonar to some degree, of course this also interfered with its own detection systems, but the torpedos it was about to launch would be moving above this interferance and would have a clear picture of a nearly solid mass of transport ships...
"Lets see if dem wormy fings can swim, eh?" The captain grinned.
Slivers tasted good, especialy after they had marinated in salt water for a while.

OOC:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8865617&posted=1#post8865617
Samtonia, might want to check this out.
IM sure you dont want people selling the crazy worm-things weapons :P

OOC: only half of the transports are on the water, we're sending half air and half land, my transports will be fine, torpedoes or not.

OOC:
WTF?
Your SHIPS are traveling at nearly the speed of sound?
Most modern large ships cant even make 100mph, and even then they wouldnt be able to stop in time.
Your transports must be pretty damn small, and there must be an awful lot of them...
BTW, considering 30 slivers per transport, your sending 33,333 transports over here...thats a whole bloody lot of transports.

OOC:
WTF?
Your SHIPS are traveling at nearly the speed of sound?
Most modern large ships cant even make 100mph, and even then they wouldnt be able to stop in time.
Your transports must be pretty damn small, and there must be an awful lot of them...
BTW, considering 30 slivers per transport, your sending 33,333 transports over here...thats a whole bloody lot of transports.

The airborne are sub mach 1, the seaborne are up around thirty nautical miles, the seaborne won't be that way much longer. That's all for tonight, more tomorrow.

[OOC: Aerial transport, I presume...]

Tightbeam radio transmission, plaintext

Hello down there. This is Blueflame clan patrol Beta. You seem to have a little invasion force on your hands. Permission to shoot down a few of the buggers? We haven't had such good target practice since the airdrop of 73 SA.

Diplomatic communiqué
Needless to say, we view any and all threats of this nature towards our nation as declarations of war. Therefore, let a state of war exist between the people of Samtonia and the….things that deign threaten us. You had ample warning- exterminate on sight only applies if your forces come near us. An yet, now you threaten us and send an attacking fleet.

Come, to your doom. Damien Dreadfire isn’t the only one who gets to preach about sleeping in the fires you know. It’s just instead of saying that, I let my army talk right away. (And no Damien, it’s not an insult or remark on you. Just…..our methods differ here in Samtonia.)

Cordially yours before extermination, the Almighty People’s Republic of Samtonia.

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Minister X, Leader of Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Samtonian Joint Monitoring Station, Isle Delta, Isles of Carn
“So…..they just appeared on sensor?”

“Yes sir,” said an observation officer, shaking his head as he talked into the red emergency phone mounted on the desk next to the coffee mug and the old table-top calendar. “We’ve got confirmation from SUNINT that there are two distinct portions of an attack, an aerial and a naval phase. We’ve got easily in excess of 600,000 things headed at us. I would suggest a general alert.”

“This is General Westmoreland authorizing a general alert. Call it in. Prepare for hostilities.”

Attache officer Simms, 5th Joint Observation Unit, gingerly set the phone down. A simple twist of a knob and the alarm button rose up from the panel, the glass protector flicking off. Simms watched the massive dark wave engulf the northern portion of the radar as he stabbed the button down. He hoped to God they’d had enough warning.

SNS Pestilence, Command 5th Home Fleet Armada
“General quarters! General quarters! All crew to general quarters! This is not a drill!

The sounds of alarm klaxons bellowed throughout the hallways of the massive command dreadnought, along with every other Samtonian naval vessel, military air base, and air defense station. In fact, every single apparatus of the Samtonian military had just been thrown to full alert status. Anything that didn’t look like it belonged near the military areas, Samtonian air space, or the fleet’s general perimeter was to be summarily disposed of. In fact, the mass of enemy creatures approaching from the Northeast was now to be eliminated- immediately.

At his disposal, High Admiral Jensen had two home defense fleets, an assault armada back in Samtonian waters for interdiction efforts, and any planes which could get out to a battle site. And, with his forces totaling about two-thirds of Samtonia’s large navy, Jensen felt quite comfortable with his role in stopping the menace.

“All ships, battle plan theta. I want all air cover of the first two waves up immediately and all ships should break to pre-designated firing positions. Fire in fifteen seconds.”

Samtonian Defensive Fleet
AS the morass of ships moved to a fighting formation, with one armada out in open waters swinging to engage the aliens as they first came near and another armada sailing north from the protected bays in Samtonia to meet the threat head on, preparation for an attack was revealed.

Already, about half the first fighter CAP was up, and now the rest, as well as the second wave was up in the air as well. Nearer to land, air force defense wings began their CAPs in friendly air space, while anti-air defenses were activated and placed on standby.

With a few hundred planes up in the air near the Fifth Defensive Armada, air superiority was still up in the air. But the AA cruisers and various other long-range vessels began to work on lowering the odds. As arsenal ships let loose with ungodly roars, vomiting their payloads of missiles into the calm afternoon sky, nearly every ship in the fleet let go with their long range missiles. Some were ship killers, the shaped charges sure to be just as effective against chitin as against steel. Some were air superiority missiles, tracking the huge mass of enemy flyers coming at the fleet with an alarming speed. And some were loaded with anti-personnel loads, their thermite and napalm sure to give a warm welcome to anything out there.

And as a wave of missiles streaked towards the enemy fleet, the battleships and dreadnoughts turned to broadside positions. With guns ranging from 16” to 30” and everything in between, a massive wall of steel would be put up in between the two fleets, massive multiple-tonned shells sure to ruin the day for anything in front, behind, to the side, or near their impact site. With a roar as loud as the missile launches, every ship with range opened up in full broadsides.

A wall of fire was thrown up towards the oncoming enemy. It remained to see whether their blood would be enough to quench it.

Diplomatic communiqué to BMG
Well, we’d certainly love the help. Feel free to get those goblins somewhere in the country. But try not to blow anything too important up, okay? Your help is, collateral damage notwithstanding, greatly appreciated.

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Minister X, Leader of Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Open Military Channel
Happy hunting friendly forces. Over and out.
[OOC- Big lots of missiles, equally divided between air and sea. Lots of planes in the air moving to interception range. Another armada sailing to meet the morass. Basially, lots of explosive stuff flying at you. And mach 1 for a transport? That seems just a tad high. Maybe slow them down a little bit.]

The six Kinsong Songbird IIs, in their sky-blue livery, kicked in their afterburners and shot towards the aerial transports. They stayed in a mildly spread formation, cautious for dirty suprises from the apparently unprotected transport fleet.

"That missile wave from the fleet will probably take out most of them," said the flight leader over a secure channel. "Wait for it to hit, then break and mop up the ones they miss. Keep two srats unfired in case they have something up their sleeve. Use your other four srats and then hit them with the Vulcans."

To: Samtonia
From: BMG
Re: Troops
Subj:
Roger, expect arrival in three days to one week, we have a number of subs off the shore ready to help intercept the incoming transports.

(OOC:
Miehm, you still dont seem to be explaining how exactly you have 33,333 flying almost-super-sonic transports.
But, since its Samtonia being invaded, and he doesnt seem to care, Ill forget about this :P

Diplomatic communiqué
Needless to say, we view any and all threats of this nature towards our nation as declarations of war. Therefore, let a state of war exist between the people of Samtonia and the….things that deign threaten us. You had ample warning- exterminate on sight only applies if your forces come near us. An yet, now you threaten us and send an attacking fleet.

Come, to your doom. Damien Dreadfire isn’t the only one who gets to preach about sleeping in the fires you know. It’s just instead of saying that, I let my army talk right away. (And no Damien, it’s not an insult or remark on you. Just…..our methods differ here in Samtonia.)

Cordially yours before extermination, the Almighty People’s Republic of Samtonia.

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Minister X, Leader of Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Samtonian Joint Monitoring Station, Isle Delta, Isles of Carn
“So…..they just appeared on sensor?”

“Yes sir,” said an observation officer, shaking his head as he talked into the red emergency phone mounted on the desk next to the coffee mug and the old table-top calendar. “We’ve got confirmation from SUNINT that there are two distinct portions of an attack, an aerial and a naval phase. We’ve got easily in excess of 600,000 things headed at us. I would suggest a general alert.”

“This is General Westmoreland authorizing a general alert. Call it in. Prepare for hostilities.”

Attache officer Simms, 5th Joint Observation Unit, gingerly set the phone down. A simple twist of a knob and the alarm button rose up from the panel, the glass protector flicking off. Simms watched the massive dark wave engulf the northern portion of the radar as he stabbed the button down. He hoped to God they’d had enough warning.

SNS Pestilence, Command 5th Home Fleet Armada
“General quarters! General quarters! All crew to general quarters! This is not a drill!

The sounds of alarm klaxons bellowed throughout the hallways of the massive command dreadnought, along with every other Samtonian naval vessel, military air base, and air defense station. In fact, every single apparatus of the Samtonian military had just been thrown to full alert status. Anything that didn’t look like it belonged near the military areas, Samtonian air space, or the fleet’s general perimeter was to be summarily disposed of. In fact, the mass of enemy creatures approaching from the Northeast was now to be eliminated- immediately.

At his disposal, High Admiral Jensen had two home defense fleets, an assault armada back in Samtonian waters for interdiction efforts, and any planes which could get out to a battle site. And, with his forces totaling about two-thirds of Samtonia’s large navy, Jensen felt quite comfortable with his role in stopping the menace.

“All ships, battle plan theta. I want all air cover of the first two waves up immediately and all ships should break to pre-designated firing positions. Fire in fifteen seconds.”

Samtonian Defensive Fleet
AS the morass of ships moved to a fighting formation, with one armada out in open waters swinging to engage the aliens as they first came near and another armada sailing north from the protected bays in Samtonia to meet the threat head on, preparation for an attack was revealed.

Already, about half the first fighter CAP was up, and now the rest, as well as the second wave was up in the air as well. Nearer to land, air force defense wings began their CAPs in friendly air space, while anti-air defenses were activated and placed on standby.

With a few hundred planes up in the air near the Fifth Defensive Armada, air superiority was still up in the air. But the AA cruisers and various other long-range vessels began to work on lowering the odds. As arsenal ships let loose with ungodly roars, vomiting their payloads of missiles into the calm afternoon sky, nearly every ship in the fleet let go with their long range missiles. Some were ship killers, the shaped charges sure to be just as effective against chitin as against steel. Some were air superiority missiles, tracking the huge mass of enemy flyers coming at the fleet with an alarming speed. And some were loaded with anti-personnel loads, their thermite and napalm sure to give a warm welcome to anything out there.

And as a wave of missiles streaked towards the enemy fleet, the battleships and dreadnoughts turned to broadside positions. With guns ranging from 16” to 30” and everything in between, a massive wall of steel would be put up in between the two fleets, massive multiple-tonned shells sure to ruin the day for anything in front, behind, to the side, or near their impact site. With a roar as loud as the missile launches, every ship with range opened up in full broadsides.

A wall of fire was thrown up towards the oncoming enemy. It remained to see whether their blood would be enough to quench it.

Diplomatic communiqué to BMG
Well, we’d certainly love the help. Feel free to get those goblins somewhere in the country. But try not to blow anything too important up, okay? Your help is, collateral damage notwithstanding, greatly appreciated.

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Minister X, Leader of Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Open Military Channel
Happy hunting friendly forces. Over and out.
[OOC- Big lots of missiles, equally divided between air and sea. Lots of planes in the air moving to interception range. Another armada sailing to meet the morass. Basially, lots of explosive stuff flying at you. And mach 1 for a transport? That seems just a tad high. Maybe slow them down a little bit.]

OOC: Hee Hee Hee explosives are for the weak, or the airborne, take your pick, as it happens we do have an ace up our proverbial sleeve.

IC:

The airborne forces had been holding elevation at about 2000 feet, now they dove for the deck at top speed to avoid the incoming missiles and fighters, the transports would most likely be fine but the escort would be ravaged, oh well, the queen would birth more drones, who would evolve to greater slivers and continue the hive.

The seaborne forces were prepared for an assault of some description, not necessarily one of this magnitude, but an assault nonetheless, the plan would work either way, the transports, which had been cruising at about 20NMPH on the surface, now dipped below and went for the bottom, their intent was to prevent the enemy missiles from being able to hit them, since missiles rarely worked in water it was a sound plan.

The escort wings began to accelerate towards the enemy in an effort to close the gap and bring their only weapons to bear against the opposing planes, if the enemy was close enough they would shred them, as things stood at the moment they were doomed.

The first five transports under the water disgorged their troops and sent them swimming towards the vulnerable hulls of the enemy fleet, the slivers would soon be aboard and the mighty ships of their enemy would be neutralised in a vicous slaughter, they would take losses but they would win in the end.

[OOC- Right....umm, the missiles for anti-air are targetted at the transports for the most part. They are quite able to track the things. They're not going to be getting away easily. Now, you still didn't take any losses from the massive salvos of artillery that just got fired at you. An artillery shell is going to have a massive shock wave capable of flipping over boats, your transport critters, or other detritus of the sea and probably stunning your transport creatures.

Giant concussive blasts will just tear apart your underseas troops. You'll be taking major losses from the force of the naval shells. Also, you've sent what, 50 slivers at my ships? A grand total of 50? And how exactly do your assault troops breathe? I haven't seen anything you've given me saying they don't need oxygen to survive....]

[OOC- Right....umm, the missiles for anti-air are targetted at the transports for the most part. They are quite able to track the things. They're not going to be getting away easily. Now, you still didn't take any losses from the massive salvos of artillery that just got fired at you. An artillery shell is going to have a massive shock wave capable of flipping over boats, your transport critters, or other detritus of the sea and probably stunning your transport creatures.

Giant concussive blasts will just tear apart your underseas troops. You'll be taking major losses from the force of the naval shells. Also, you've sent what, 50 slivers at my ships? A grand total of 50? And how exactly do your assault troops breathe? I haven't seen anything you've given me saying they don't need oxygen to survive....]

OOC: AA isn't gonna work underwater, thats where they're headed, I'm treating it as though your missiles have yet to reach my troops, my next IC post will cover casualties.

Again for the artillery they have to take time to travel and that means my troops should be mostly out of the shockwave range in time, some will be caught but most should escape, with about three hundred thousand down there theres bound to be losses but they'll mostly survive. A shockwave from a 16" shell is approximately twice the size of its footprint on the ground, that means about 800 yards, that may sound like alot but its not all that much.

I have sent a grand total of about 300 against one ship, other transports are tasked with other ships and will deploy when they close in on their target areas.

edit: I told you they don't need oxygen in an IM last night, they can survive hard vacuum, whats water gonna do to them that vacuum couldn't?

(OOC:
Well, each of the transports had 30 slivers (from what I read) so thats 150 troops attacking you...)

The Seawolf subs each launch their full compliment of toredos (12 each, total 36 torps) into the mass of submerged transports, no doubt each torpedo will take out a few of the transports and a number of the enemies submerged transports.
After firing the subs make a 180 degree turn and flee from the enemy at flank speed, firing their rear torpedos to discourage pursuit.

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Boooommmmm
The sound of the Drum echoes throughout the Blood Moon capitol, triggering several small avalanches.
Boooommmm Booommmmm
The Drum, ancient and very large, sits at the peak of Gundabad, it was first constructed almost a thosand years ago as a communication device. Better communication devices have been developed, but nothing beats an ominous drumbeat for summoning up the troops.
Boooommmm
Within Gundabad a number of variously sharp or blunt objects are siezed, as well as a number of tubelike objects with little clippy-things on the bottom that, while they look somewhat comical, are quite capable of dealing death at some distance.
V-b-b-b-b-boooommmmmmm
The Great Hall, capitolized for similar reasons as the Drum, was crowded with greenskinned figures, most of them holding weapons. There were a few cameramen (goblins?) present, but newservice hadnt really caught on in the Blood Moon area.
King Krark himself is standing at the end of the hall, the traditional throne on which the Goblin King sits (also several thosand years old, which is traditional) behind him, surrounded by various councilors and hangers on.
Krark clears his throat...
"Goblins! Dese Slivers fink dey're better'n us. Dey fink dey can take out anybody dey want. Dey fink dat Goblins will roll over for dem! We show dem who dey're messin' wit!
Da Blood Moon Kingdom has pleged dat we will support the nation of Samtonia against de worms, so we're gonna send dem a bit 'o a present, 'bout 50,000 o' joo fellows. For dose dat dont count so well, dats about as many rocks as joo would find on da side 'o dis mountain. Dats allota rocks, for dose dat dont do so well wit' metaphores.
Go kill some worms!"
A very large cheer sets up, momentarily drowned out by the overexcited drummer, as about 50,000 Goblins charge out of the hall, a few attempt to run to Samtonia which they think is another town.
The more intelligent ones board the clearly labled transports and proceede to drive off through the wastes towards the ports of the Flarg, a large archipellago off the north edge of the mainland.
Waiting in the ports are a significant amount of tanks, mostly T-72s and GBT-1 tanks. Various artillery pieces are positioned behind these while workers goblinhandle crates into the mouthes of the massive sea-transports.
Others work the cranes that load the old-style landing craft onto the troop-ships, large affairs vaugly similar to the sort you would see in the Normandy landing footage of World War Two. A few of these are scaled-up and modified to carry two tanks each

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Two days later, having crammed as many as possible into the avalible transports, the fleet sets out, heavily escorted by the Goblin fleet.
ETA Three-four days, givin good weather.

EDIT:
OOC:
Well, the requirements for surving in water/space are sort of oppsite, minus the lack of air.
In space you would need an exoskeleton or something to keep you from exploding due to internal pressures.
Under water you would need a strong internal skeleton to keep you from imploding.
Your Slivers have both, I suppose.

OOC: How fast did you launch launch those torpedoes BMG? and what sort of warheads do they carry, I'm assuming HE, but correct me if I'm wrong.

IC:

The seawolves had fired all of their torpedoes with unseemly haste, the mark48's, although advanced, were not programmed to recognise the shape of the transport slivers, which resembled a whale more than anything in a navy of any nation, and since they had fired so swiftly the enemy sonar could not have gotten a lock on them, at least not past the first wave of shots, all of these factors combined to produce a death toll of only six transports from direct hits, nearly forty were wounded by the compression effects but only six were destroyed, most of the troops were only injured in a very minor manner, bruises, cracked chitin, and minor cuts to the carapace, the transports had managed to keep approximately half of the slivers in transport alive by shielding the worst effects with their own bodies, the surviving half were hurt but alive.

The airborne transports were at approximately 1000 feet up when the first missiles struck, the missiles killed three hundred and wounded quite a few more but again the lack of any resemblence to any military hardware of any other nation worked in their favor, confusing the missiles and affecting their ability to hit long enough for the swiftly dropping transports to reach the safety of the water. The airborne transports suffered higher casualties among their troops, a loss of two thirds of the complement of each transport was not surprising, but the troops who survived dropped into the water and sped out of range of the compression waves that were sure to come with the artillery that was hard on their heels, most escaped, although thirty more were lost to the accumulated damage of compression and explosions. The clot slivers were already proving their worth, splits in the shells and slashes through to their soft innards were already starting to scab over, but the most important affect did not come from the clot slivers, it came from a dead group of slivers, the three mindwhip slivers that were in each transport with the combat units to be recise. The deaths of the mindwhip slivers sent the troops that were aware of it into a feral rage, directionless hatred and raw fury without purpose or reason until given a target, then the enemy would fall after being targeted, nothing survived a raging swarm, nothing.

The troops that had spilled from the transports above and below water were enraged, but the rage was without direction or purpose, blind fury at everything and everyone, the mnemonic slivers and their stronger connection to the queen provided a purpose: destroy the ships and everything on them, crush the enemies of the hive and rend the beasts that had struck them as a lion rends a lamb, without mercy.

The enraged slivers surged towards the enemy ship as a single being, united in thought and deed. The muscle slivers and blade slivers straining to the fore of the line to come to grips with their hated foe, the slower slivers falling behind but still boiling towards the ships that had struck at the might of the hive.

The talon slivers would be the force that turned the day however, swifter and stronger than muscle slivers they were not used as troopers only because there were fewer of them, their speed was now to be the instrument of the seawolves destruction, the talon slivers and their surrounding units racing after the fleeing submarines to destroy and kill those who had harmed them.

Total losses:

Transports, three hundred and six killed, forty wounded

Troops:

Muscle slivers: 4500

Mnemonic slivers: 700

Metallic slivers: none

Mindwhip slivers: 540

Acidic slivers: 70

Bladed slivers: 300

Talon slivers: 30

Clot slivers: 25

Plated slivers: 100

Brood slivers: 2

Victual slivers: none

Winged slivers: none

Flame slivers: 25

OOC:
Who said anything about Mk-48's?
I use something similar to the VA-111 Shkval, its basicaly a supercavitating torpedo, goes VERY fast (couple hundred knots), plus a 45kg warhead, and an active/passive guidance system that would instantly head for the bajillion little noises made by your transports.

OOC:
Who said anything about Mk-48's?
I use something similar to the VA-111 Shkval, its basicaly a supercavitating torpedo, goes VERY fast (couple hundred knots), plus a 45kg warhead, and an active/passive guidance system that would instantly head for the bajillion little noises made by your transports.

OOC: no torpedo can exceed(as far as I know) 100 knots, the fastest torpedo I know of is the Mk-48, since you didn't say what kind you fired and since the Mk-48 is the primary armament of both the seawolf and the los-angeles class subs I assumed they would be 48's, from now on I'll know better but I'll leave my post as is because I'm really tired and not in the mood to change it right now, mostly cause it's long and I'm tired.

OOC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation

Basicaly it means that the torpedo 'flies' through the water, inside a bubble. This reduces drag quite a lot, since (according to the article) drag is something like 1000 times greater in the water than in the air.

OOC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation

Basicaly it means that the torpedo 'flies' through the water, inside a bubble. This reduces drag quite a lot, since (according to the article) drag is something like 1000 times greater in the water than in the air.


OOC: Ok so it exists, but you can't steer it, my transports were moving down when you fired, they either wouldn't be there because the torpedo got there first, were already through because you fired too late, or were caught partway through the movement and took some casualties, since the third choice is most likely that's how I RPed it for the much more maneuverable 48's, a 48 is much more dangerous than your torpedoes, slower but capable of maneuvering, I change my depth and my forces are safe from your torps, so can we please just move on? RP what you're gonna do about my pursuit or don't either way let's cut the OOC to a minimum.

OOC:
The subs left, my forces are temporarily not in the area.
The main Goblin force will arrive once the main sea battle is over.

The torpedos steer via vectored thrust, and if I didnt have computers capable of predicting where your forces would be when the torpedos arrived, well, I wouldnt have a very good navy, would I?

IC:
The BMG subs quickly vacated the battle area, not wanting to be swarmed by massess of underwater Slivers, and headed toward Samtonian ports (After radioing in a request for docking) to refuel/reload.

OOC:
The subs left, my forces are temporarily not in the area.
The main Goblin force will arrive once the main sea battle is over.

The torpedos steer via vectored thrust, and if I didnt have computers capable of predicting where your forces would be when the torpedos arrived, well, I wouldnt have a very good navy, would I?

IC:
The BMG subs quickly vacated the battle area, not wanting to be swarmed by massess of underwater Slivers, and headed toward Samtonian ports (After radioing in a request for docking) to refuel/reload.

OOC: dude, GM to extreme lengths, you just teleported your troops out without allowing an attempt to engage on my part, oh well, fuck it, I'll just deal with samtonia when he gets back on so I can waste his navy. your subs are already being pursued, you can't just escape for no apparent reason, and unless you want to get found by everything within about 50 miles of you you have to stay under about 15 knots, I'm military, I know the limits of subs and powerplants, seawolf or not you cannot break 35 knots at top speed, which means you'll slowly escape a ravening horde, not just wisk away from them.

IC:

The talon slivers and their support elements were slowly being left behind by the enemy subs, they were only losing a yard or so every minute but they would eventually escape unless something drastic occured, the talon slivers were going to follow the subs until one or the other was dead, even outside of visual range the noise made by the subs would allow the slives to keep track of them and follow the subs to their destruction.

OOC:
You will note that the subs left at flank speed after they fired, you didnt indicate any pursuit so I assumed that they got away.
So, they slowly escape your ravening horde. Yay. The ocean is big, and your slivers are going to tire faster than the subs batteries.

OOC:
You will note that the subs left at flank speed after they fired, you didnt indicate any pursuit so I assumed that they got away.
So, they slowly escape your ravening horde. Yay. The ocean is big, and your slivers are going to tire faster than the subs batteries.

OOC: I said that the talon slivers were following the sus, and since they're heading for a port they're gonna get caught, last point, slivers have the stamina to cover interstellar distances without FTL or any other speed enhancing techs, they're gonna be able to keep up with a sub in open water.

As the silver transports dove towards the sea, the small wing of Songbirds did likewise. Grossly overpowered for their weight, they dove almost vertically, leveling off at an altitude of 75 meters and a velocity just under Mach 2.5.

"Captain, we need to slow down. I can't get a lock at this closing speed. My systems weren't designed for a relative closing of 3.5."

"Negative, Three. All fighters, fire a srat prox at the nearest cluster, then close with Vulcans. Speed will work in our favour. They're transports. They can't match our Gs."

It was then that the Samtonian wave hit.

"My god. They're in the water. What the hell are they?"

"Doesn't matter. Five, Six, engage the remaining transports. Everyone else, strafe and kill as many as you can. Don't let them board those ships."

"But what if they have AA-"

"Hope they don't have it."

The fighters split, and charged in guns blazing.

The songbirds were so busy concentrating on the transports that they seemed to have not even seen the slivers flying towards them, the slivers would soon be within 100 yards of the enemy and the destruction would commence...

The slivers in the water felt the shadow above them and dove deeper, for a few it was too late but the improved reactions and speed granted by the muscle slivers were enough to minimize casualties, losing only 100 more to the guns of the enemy planes.

The survivors continued towards their targets in a rage, they would destroy the enemy and avenge their brethren, as the first slivers neared the ships it became apparent they had no intention of stoping, instead they would slam their bodies into the hulls of the ships until they werer through then the slaughter would begin.

As the winged silvers reached 500m, their small profiles finally returned a noticable radar signature. The commander yelled in suprise, then issued rapid-fire orders.

"What the... Incoming! Incoming! Incoming! Dump two srat, flip attitude, afterburn full, then altitude up vertical!"

Each of the Songbirds fired two missiles simultaneously while pulling upwards, sending them arcing on a ballistic trajectory before they detonated their warhead and propellant in the midst of the silvers.

As the patrol made the nearly 90-degree change in course, tremendous stresses were placed on the aircraft. The pilots strained under forces of more than sixteen G, enough to kill weaker beings. The airplanes suffered wing loads far above their designed specifications, and their airfoils bent under the stress.

One of the aircraft, the last one to pull up, failed to make it. As its wings began to shred, its systems blew the cockpit section free automatically, then detonated all its missiles, fuel, and Vulcan ammunition simultaneously, turning the doomed aircraft into a rapidly expanding ball of lethal metal in the path of the wave of silvers.

********************

The cockpit of the downed Songbird descended safely towards the not-so-safe sea, hanging from a bright orange parafoil.

The winged slivers continued to fly straight towards the enemy, unable to match their speed but posessed of much greater endurance and a singularity of purpose that was rarely found outside the hive. The winged slivers had finally reached the 100 yard range of their flames and coils of biological fury burst from their mouths like the whips of an avenging god, the flames were hot as napalm and of the same general consistency, so that when the fires had stopped there were ribbons of liquid flame dripping from their beaks and falling to the sea.

OOC: I'm assuming that 500m was 500 meters, right, approximately 500 yards, which your altitude and attitude change allowed to drop to 100 yards allowing the weapons of the slivers to do their work.

Hawaiian Islands has neglected thoughts toward Samtonia. Especially Samathatonia. Leader Jason Batista will keep this war posted in his 'Must be Viewed with Agression' list.

OOC: This is Anti-Terror Army.

[OOC: No reply until you post losses from my weapons. Plus, the Songbirds are currently about 300m above you vertically. Why are you shooting into the sea?]

I dont really see the point of telling the losses if you DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH PLANES/SHIPS/TROOPS DOES THE OTHER GUY HAVE! :mad: Im n00b in RP'ing and this is the first RP-war I've seen, but I have persumed that the first requirement for a unretarded fight is the listing of all troops, planes and ships including models and numbers, quality and quantity, no "million of my guys are coming, half on sea, half by air, and navy, and airforce" and responding like "i have fleet too, it will sunk your ships and i have AA-missiles, they will drop ure planes", "no they will not", "yes they will", then debating on torpedo models. Wouldn't it help if you all make a list of the troops, vehichles and their place on the battlefield? This, as it currently is, can be described with only the word "ridicilous", what could be easily avoided, I think :( . Your war though, do what ya want with it...

[OOC- Yeah........that leads to a little thing called numverwanking, in which large lists of numbers are thrown at the person you're RPing as tangible proof you "have to win cauz my troops are teh roxxorz!"

So, generally, it's a far better RP if you can write for, you know, writing appeal and let the course of the war sort itself out on its own. Of course, if one really wants to, all the numbers can be figured out, but hey, some of us just don't have time. Even though I do have general numbers I haven't divided them up into fleets or anything like that.

Generally, the better the OOC discussion, the less of a need for numbers and the more writing that can take place. Unless you don't like writing and prefer the numbers game, then to each his own. But I like NS becuase it's creative writing, not RISK on the Internet.]

OOC:
Besides, argueing is half the fun :)

Still, saying that "...5 divisions landed South from the city X, but were countered by 2 armoured divisions who attacked from several directions and pushed them back. Landing fleet gave very effective supporting fire with all (11) BB's and 17 Battlecruisers. Therefore their main fleet, however, was unable to beat the enemys main navy as their BB's were on the landing site and was therefore forced to pull back..."
Instead of "...Million men landed on the coast and no one of them was killed because the3y had so much air support and so much naval support and so much tanks and artillery. Oh, you tried to flank them with your navy? I forgot to say, I have massive fleet there too. And there. And everywhere."
Do ya see what im trying to say? Not RISK in Internet, realistic warfare with facts about forces. :)

OOC:
Somehow realistic tactcs dont seem to work with Slivers, since they apparently have a sliver for everything, and explosives dont work on them, and they can all dive underwater and travel through space at lightspeed.
Whereas my poor little Goblins can just blow things up very effeciently.
I feel left out, somehow.

[OOC: No reply until you post losses from my weapons. Plus, the Songbirds are currently about 300m above you vertically. Why are you shooting into the sea?]

OOC: oops, My bad, I thought your guys were about on my level, approximately 1000 feet from sea-level for the escort troops, I'll adjust my post accordingly.

IC:

The missiles flew towards the submerged slivers, most of the slivers managed to escape but 75 of the worst wounded were kiled by the shockwaves and another 100 were injured by the explosives compression in the water.

(OOC: at this point you can insert the previous post about the winged slivers, minus the attack)

OOC:
Somehow realistic tactcs dont seem to work with Slivers, since they apparently have a sliver for everything, and explosives dont work on them, and they can all dive underwater and travel through space at lightspeed.
Whereas my poor little Goblins can just blow things up very effeciently.
I feel left out, somehow.

OOC: they can all swim, they cannot travel at lightspeed without help, specifically only transports can break the .3c real-space speed barrier. There is a sliver for almost everything, and some slivers have dual use abilities. Explosives work very well against exposed slivers, emphasis on exposed, slivers are capable of space flight and surviving the crushing depths of the ocean but fast moving flaming metal kills them very well, however underwater the metal fragments you would get from most explosions are removed and replaced by compression, and compression is something they can survive in spades, contact and open air proximity explosions are much more damaging.

Still, saying that "...5 divisions landed South from the city X, but were countered by 2 armoured divisions who attacked from several directions and pushed them back. Landing fleet gave very effective supporting fire with all (11) BB's and 17 Battlecruisers. Therefore their main fleet, however, was unable to beat the enemys main navy as their BB's were on the landing site and was therefore forced to pull back..."
Instead of "...Million men landed on the coast and no one of them was killed because the3y had so much air support and so much naval support and so much tanks and artillery. Oh, you tried to flank them with your navy? I forgot to say, I have massive fleet there too. And there. And everywhere."
Do ya see what im trying to say? Not RISK in Internet, realistic warfare with facts about forces. :)

OOC: relism? you're asking for REALISM with a non-human, non-humanoid army? What's wrong with you?

The missiles flew towards the submerged slivers, most of the slivers managed to escape but 75 of the worst wounded were kiled by the shockwaves and another 100 were injured by the explosives compression in the water.

(OOC: at this point you can insert the previous post about the winged slivers, minus the attack)

[OOC:

OK. It happened like this.

a) Attack on submerged silvers
b) Winged silvers spotted
c) Missiles fired, Songbirds pull up before silvers can get in range

The missiles were fired at the WINGED SILVERS. Now get it right this time.

]

OOC: relism? you're asking for REALISM with a non-human, non-humanoid army? What's wrong with you?

[OOC: All beings, whether human or not, must obey the laws of physics unless you can come up with a decent explanation otherwise. Keep that in mind.]

[OOC:

OK. It happened like this.

a) Attack on submerged silvers
b) Winged silvers spotted
c) Missiles fired, Songbirds pull up before silvers can get in range

The missiles were fired at the WINGED SILVERS. Now get it right this time.

]



[OOC: All beings, whether human or not, must obey the laws of physics unless you can come up with a decent explanation otherwise. Keep that in mind.]

OOC: ohhhhh, I thought the missiles were going to the submerged troops again and you were gonna fire at the winged slivers with the cannon on your planes, my bad. They do obey most of the laws of physics, they just don't have as much effect on slivers, for example we are operating on an earth world, with one standard gravity right? Well the slivers were bred on a world with three gravities as the planetary norm, they feel less effect from the gravity, they're stronger and faster than people, unfortunately they're not faster than a plane so that poses a problem, gimme a couple hours to write this one, I gotta think about it for a while.

Bumpage.

[OOC- Oh I know. I'm lazy and too involved in track. I'll post ASAP.]

OOC: NOW I will do something...

IC:

The war has been begun, eliminating a threat (Samtonia). The Hawaiian Royal Navy, 34 Elite Fleets consisting of 1,234 battleships, 980 crusiers, 1,129 destroyers, 740 carriers, 1,292 nuclear submarines, and 3,450 cargo ships (to also transport some soldiers and supplies. The initial population of soldiers that will be sent to participate in this war is exactly 3,438,203 soldiers, but for now, we are sending 293,239 soldiers.

With the war on sake, the Hawaiian Airforce, Navy, and National Guard has released it's latest prototype: See-Hawk. Going the speed of Mach 4, with Napalm Guidiance Laser Missiles, and T-4 Nuclear (i think), 3 man crew with Anti-Stealth Radar (detects moving objects by heat). As defence, this new aircraft will hope to be a good addition to the defence. This aircraft has been a $30 trillion dollar experiment.


12 NS days later

The 34 Fleets of the Hawaiian Navy sets sail to Samtonian shores...

OOC: it's simulation, I know, but I left the '...' for Samtonia to RP the rest.

OOC: NOW I will do something...

IC:

The war has been begun, eliminating a threat (Samtonia). The Hawaiian Royal Navy, 34 Elite Fleets consisting of 1,234 battleships, 980 crusiers, 1,129 destroyers, 740 carriers, 1,292 nuclear submarines, and 3,450 cargo ships (to also transport some soldiers and supplies. The initial population of soldiers that will be sent to participate in this war is exactly 3,438,203 soldiers, but for now, we are sending 293,239 soldiers.

With the war on sake, the Hawaiian Airforce, Navy, and National Guard has released it's latest prototype: See-Hawk. Going the speed of Mach 4, with Napalm Guidiance Laser Missiles, and T-4 Nuclear (i think), 3 man crew with Anti-Stealth Radar (detects moving objects by heat). As defence, this new aircraft will hope to be a good addition to the defence. This aircraft has been a $30 trillion dollar experiment.


12 NS days later

The 34 Fleets of the Hawaiian Navy sets sail to Samtonian shores...

OOC: it's simulation, I know, but I left the '...' for Samtonia to RP the rest.

OOC: who, exactly, are you siding with, me or him?

OOC:
I dont think it matters because this never happened, remember? ;)

OOC:
I dont think it matters because this never happened, remember? ;)

OOC: I know, I'm just curious, trying to see if someone in the world actually supports me...

OOC: NOW I will do something...

IC:

The war has been begun, eliminating a threat (Samtonia). The Hawaiian Royal Navy, 34 Elite Fleets consisting of 1,234 battleships, 980 crusiers, 1,129 destroyers, 740 carriers, 1,292 nuclear submarines, and 3,450 cargo ships (to also transport some soldiers and supplies. The initial population of soldiers that will be sent to participate in this war is exactly 3,438,203 soldiers, but for now, we are sending 293,239 soldiers.

With the war on sake, the Hawaiian Airforce, Navy, and National Guard has released it's latest prototype: See-Hawk. Going the speed of Mach 4, with Napalm Guidiance Laser Missiles, and T-4 Nuclear (i think), 3 man crew with Anti-Stealth Radar (detects moving objects by heat). As defence, this new aircraft will hope to be a good addition to the defence. This aircraft has been a $30 trillion dollar experiment.


12 NS days later

The 34 Fleets of the Hawaiian Navy sets sail to Samtonian shores...

OOC: it's simulation, I know, but I left the '...' for Samtonia to RP the rest.

[OOC- What? Now let's go through a few things here.
1. Is this everything you've got? It seems both very high in the number of battleships and carriers and very low in the other ships. How could you have this many things? And how are you figuring on supplying them? I spend more on defense and have a bigger navy than you and yet have nohere near the numbers of battleships or carreirs. So there's something wrong with your numbers.

2. A plane going Mach 4? Right. It sure as hell ain't going to be carrying anything of the nature you've givien it. At that speed, it's going to be basically tearing itself apart. SO anything on the outside of wings is off, as you need streamline. Mach 4 is a tad high for a plane in the atmosphere, but I don't want to argue specs, so who cares.

However, you're not going to be fitting three people into each plane and you're not going to be fitting many weapons. This plane would not have anything on its wings. NO missiles. NO fuel tanks.

3. T-4 nuclear? What? Napalm Guidiance Laser Missiles? Youn eed to explain what you're talking about- what are these? What do they do? Hmmm?

4. You don't get to leave your harbor so quickly. 12 days ahve not elapsed since you both declared war and began mobilization. This is the minute you declare war. No free moves for you. Also, 12 days to mobilize all that? Right, how about no. NOt going to happen. It'll take longer. Much longer.

As the first wave of ordinance hit, the plots were already being updated in the command and control room by technicians monitoring the battle.

“Sir, enemy is 75 km and closing. Rate of approach at axis heading 002. Enemy forces still in closed formation.”

Admiral Jensen nodded in appreciation as he watched the automatic tracking systems slowly engage the path of the swarm. Brightly colored dots danced on screen as the lines of missile intercepts moved towards and through the mass of the enemy position. It looked almost like one of the many electronic games that, as a child, Jensen used to play. But this was a game on whose end result hinged the fate of his crewmembers, his country, and possibly his life.

The first attack action had anticipated low enemy casualties; though it appeared total casualties were appallingly low. However, that was with only forward guns engaged. It was time for the full force of explosive pressure to be felt.

He turned towards his second in command. “Rogers, fire at designated waypoints. All ships, on my mark.”

******************
The fact hat the first volley was so ineffective didn’t matter at all. The gun loads had been anti-ship, not designed to cope with this enemy of many parts. But now, the appropriate load-outs were in the guns. Death would come with a vengeance.

First to fire were again the arsenal ships. This time, they lofted missiles filled with cluster munitions designed for anti-sub work. They munitions were depth charges, designed to go off on impact with an enemy sub. Each small explosive device was powerful enough to penetrate feet of solid steel. Flesh, no matter how strong, would never be a match for the sheer explosive force. AS thousands of these missiles dropped their payloads, the rain of charges scattering over the oncoming swarm, the main guns on the battleships and dreadnoughts spoke.

A Doujin fires an 8000 kg shell. The fact that 75 km was within unassisted attack range meant that all 8000kg were shell- not booster, not guidance, but outer body and explosives. Each Doujin has 20 guns capable of firing these massive projectiles. A total of three Doujins and around 30 other super dreadnoughts, most firing six to seven thousand kilogram shells, all with at least 20 main guns, fired at the same instant. The sheer explosive power in the shells was staggering.

The fact that they would all detonate deeper than normal shells and would all detonate with far greater force than 8000kg of explosives due to the water meant that there was about to be a massive wall of shock sure to kill any living thing within hundreds, if not thousands of meters.

And as the super dreads began to reload, the normal battleships and pocket super-dreadnoughts began to fire. The wall of shellfire was to be continuous. The fact that ships still launched the anti-sub missiles and even more anti-air missiles meant that ordinance was to fill the sky for the entirety of the time it took the swarm to swim 75 kilometers.

And back in the sky? With the missiles re-calibrated, the fact that opponents were living didn’t matter. If there was something with heat in the air the missiles would track it. This, of course, meant the entirety of the swarm’s air power. AS missiles flashed off of ships, the fighters looped around once more, disgorging another load of missiles. The constant missile fire would certainly take a heavy toll on the attackers. And as the air battle moved closer to the ships, the anti-air guns of the ships would soon come into play as well.

[OOC- Right. You better take realistic casualties this time. I was lenient before, no longer. You’re 75 km away with 8000 kilos of explosives dropping straight onto your underwater swarm. The pressure can and will kill anything near the shells. Don’t even try to argue that your slivers can survive that pressure. They can’t. A large portion of your swarm is going to be dead before you hit dry land, may as well start giving the realistic casualties that will make that happen.]

OOC: I know, I'm just curious, trying to see if someone in the world actually supports me...

You moron, I'm on your side.

You moron, I'm on your side.

OOC: Insulting the mildly psychotic guy with the insane army is a very bad idea, understand, also, this thread is moribund, nipped in the bud, done, solved outside of combat.