NationStates Jolt Archive


Empire of China, French Monarchy (AMW ONLY)

Xiaguo
11-05-2005, 17:22
The Chinese government had requested an audience with French officials

(More to come, the bell just rang.)
Elkazor
11-05-2005, 21:15
Versailles would tell the Chinese Empire that perhaps it would be best to speak with His Most Christian Majesty himself, due as he was to arrive in Noumea within the week.

Let the Chinese Empire then send a delegation to New Caledonia, there to speak with Louis XX after he has finished decorating and praising the valiant garrison troops.

However, the French were also clear that His Majesty did not intend to just give any naval bases in the Pacific away. The Chinese Empire should know going into the negotiations that little would progress if the Chinese would not agree to a mutual defense and non-agression pact in the Pacific with His Majesty's government.

That said, Louis is very much looking forward with speaking to the Chinese delegates.
Xiaguo
12-05-2005, 00:56
China will likely sign non-aggresion packs with the neighbors in the Pacific. A Mutual defense Agreement may be headed for some trouble. A mutual defense treaty between China and France can bring the remaining Chinese-Indian ties to an even lower level.

China's Cahncellor Yeh, several officials, and will the possibility of Liu attending for the talks. Chancellor Yeh has sent a request of attendence to Emperor Zhang Fu Guo for a formal state visit to France in a goodwill gesture.
Lunatic Retard Robots
12-05-2005, 01:33
eh, not really much to say here. I don't suspect that Hindustan and Xiaguo anyway have had very good relations ever since the attack on Nepal and subsequent destruction of crops and infrastructure...

But how you run things is how you run things, I suppose.
Xiaguo
12-05-2005, 02:48
OOC:You do know that it was diplomacy talk. China currently is seeking allies, and because China is rising to power once again, we need to pull a few neighbors and countries along.
Armandian Cheese
12-05-2005, 02:53
OOC: Elkazor, get 'em to sign a defense pact with me...
And Xiaguo, if you're looking for allies...Well...
Xiaguo
12-05-2005, 04:32
OOC: Benefits?
The Macabees
12-05-2005, 04:33
[OOC: Wouldn't Sino's 'alliance' with myself ensure China atleast cordial relations with the Holy League?]
Xiaguo
12-05-2005, 04:59
OOC:AS of the unification, all treaties and agreements between the former Chinese nations and all foreign countries must be reviewed and renewed by the Chinese Parliament.
_Taiwan
12-05-2005, 05:16
tag

Zhang's upcoming European tour was still in infancy, but there would no doubt be a French visit on the initerary.
Armandian Cheese
12-05-2005, 05:50
OOC: Benefits?
1. I'm going to invade anyway, and your aid would keep BG out of it. If you manage to keep BG out of it, you'll avoid an EE at least partially if not totally dominated by the Bedgellens...
2. I can offer you all sorts of economic deals.
3. A powerful Russia can be a powerful ally.
4. I'll stay out of Malaysia...
5. The French (and I) will probably be more eager to offer bases.
6. I'll stop trying to use my subs to start a war between you and BG...
Elkazor
12-05-2005, 19:20
A ornate, thick envelope would arrive at the Chinese Palace.

His Most Christian Majesty Louis XX finds immense satisfaction in inviting His Imperial Excellency Zhang Fu Guo to Versailles, attending if His Excellency would be so kind on the 19th and 20th of May, to speak as gentlemen ought.

Writing for His Majesty
Charles-Gravier, Comte de Vergennes
Minister of State
The Macabees
12-05-2005, 23:56
OOC:AS of the unification, all treaties and agreements between the former Chinese nations and all foreign countries must be reviewed and renewed by the Chinese Parliament.

[OOC: Well, I guess you should know that the Spanish navy is currently sitting in mainland Chinese ports because that's where I built it. :-P ... well, what I've built so far is there... but no worries - it'll soon be on the move.]
Elkazor
13-05-2005, 00:56
It should be considered...The Chinese have no prayer of being granted land for naval bases from the French without a full defensive alliance(Stipulating the Pacific Theatre only), additionally stipulating non-agression against Roycelandia and Russia in the Pacific.

The French dont mean to seem rude, but with the likes of Spyr and her Strainist lesser demon spawn of the greater Igovian demon continuing to wail and thrash about, clarity and frank terms are of the essence.
Armandian Cheese
13-05-2005, 01:38
OOC: Here, here! The French of course, will be duly rewarded if they can also manage to squeeze the Chinese into a defensive alliance with me. That is critical as a deterrence against BG.
Xiaguo
13-05-2005, 05:33
China has agreed to a Treaty with Russia. A Seperate Treaty with the French may be installed.

A Draft of the, Fa Lan Xi (France) Treaty by the Chinese include:

~A Free trade agreement.
~The French will turn over 'territories' in which the French will offer to China. The territories will be governed by the Chinese under democracy and will end 'piracy' and other international condemnations. The territories will remain French.
~The Chinese will not interfere with French affairs, and vice-versa.
~The Chinese will assist the French if France is attacked, and not attacking, vice-versa.


The Draft is only in short and any French suggestions will be reviewed.
Elkazor
13-05-2005, 20:43
The Chinese perposal, though still a bit rough, is agreed more than enough to begin negotiations.

The Emporer is asked if perhaps he would acre to meet with Louis while he toured New Caledonia on an immenent visit, or whether His Imperial Excellency would prefer to meet His Mosty Christian King at Versailles in several weeks time.

Either is considered acceptable by His Majesty's government.
Armandian Cheese
13-05-2005, 21:47
OOC: France is willing to give up its territories?
Xiaguo
14-05-2005, 00:00
The territories are still owned by the French, but will be co-administered by the Chinese. The proposal was supported by Spyrian diplomats.3

Emperor Zhang will wrap up his European tour, and WILL visit France and will attend a meeting with the French Christian Emperor.
_Taiwan
14-05-2005, 00:26
OOC: Rather like Hong Kong and Macau?

Having toured most of the Pacific recently, Zhang would much prefer the setting of Versailles over New Caledonia. He would begin making preparations immediately.
Xiaguo
14-05-2005, 00:48
Not like Hong Kong. The land will be owned by the French with the taxes sent to France. However, the territories will be governed by the Chinese and will be occupied by French and Chinese forces. The Chinese are allowed to build and operate bases there.

Yep, in France, Zhang Fu Guo is the Mandate of Heaven.
Elkazor
14-05-2005, 22:48
OOC- The Chinese will only be leased the Islands of Wallis and Fortuna, most likely on ten year basi. That is the only land the French are 'renting', and still maintain full sovereignty in New Caledonia, which to is to be re-fortified.

The inspiration for these actions was to secure a posistion in the Pacific by facilitating Russo-Franco-Sino-Roycelandian co-operation and special interests.
Xiaguo
14-05-2005, 23:37
The Treaty was to govern the territories, and should be mentioned before the signing. Islands of Wallis and Fortuna when 'rented' will become hinese fortified and will contain CHinese Air and Naval bases.
Xiaguo
14-05-2005, 23:47
Chancellor Yeh has sent an invitation to his French counterpart for a visit to Beijing. Emperor Zhang, who is now making preparations to visit Versailles, and in return, the Chinese have Invited the French over to Beijing in a first French, State visit in years.

The too monarchies, of both East and West will be met with an exchange of visits and talks to bring both the Chinese, and French people together.
Elkazor
16-05-2005, 21:17
In a shocking move, His Most Christian Majesty Louis XX declared that following His inspection of New Caledonia, He and His entourage will spend one day, twenty-four hours, in the Chinese capital, meeting with the Emporer.

On the discussion table will no doubt be the issue of Wallis and Fortuna Islands, which Versailles now openly admits planning to lease to the Chinese, but of arms sales that His Most Christian Majesty has just requested. The French are looking to buy from Chinas vast arsenal, as the Royal navy declared that it cannot staff His Majesty's Naval Armament package without additional craft. It is in that spirit that His Majesty will ask to buy Chinese model heavy cruisers and destroyers to man the Royal Navies Pacific Fleet, while French shipyards maintain the super battleships and Franco made vessels of the Atlantic and Mediterranian Fleets.

This comes as the chamberlains of Versailles prognosticate what decorations will be needed for the lavish series of Balls that will be held when the Chinese Emporer arrives in Versailles, the first ever to do so.
Armandian Cheese
17-05-2005, 00:20
On a different note, President Vladimir Putin would wish to visit Versailles when Louis XX returns to his homeland of France.
Elkazor
17-05-2005, 01:22
OOC- No thing AC, we got it working here. Tommorrow Louis will visit New Caledonia, then off to China and Roycelandian and Algeria. I imagine by Wednesday well be good to go. There is going to be a fantasic mask ball after the ROyal Tour, and I think it will be one Putin will not want to miss. Dont ya worry, all is set.
Xiaguo
17-05-2005, 02:34
Elkazor, when ever you are ready, just post your arrival in Beijing here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419153

Assume: You will be escorted by Chinese officials to the palace in the fuest chambers.