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Samtonian Diplomatic Release
In the interest of setting the standard for interspecies relations with the sudden spike in non-human activity recently, the Samtonian Department of State and the Samtonian department of Health are pleased to announce the cataloging of all known senitient species to be nearing completion.

This list is to be a definitive guide on interspecies relations between Samtonia and representatives or nations comprised of various species. This will not be a radical departure in policy and is simply putting to paper what have been standard legislative actions over the last thirty years.

Catalogue of Senitient Species
Bipedal
homo sapiens- Standard relations are to be observed. This classification fits all of humanity, the bipedal ape-like organism most prevalent on the planet Earth and the solar system of the Milky Way.

homo inferiorus(dwarves)- Standard relations are to be observed. These demi-humans are squat and muscular, preferring to live underground and exist in seclusion.

homo longevitus(elves)- Standard relations are to be observed. Species known to remember slights for extended periods of time. Prefer to live in heavily forested areas, generally pacifistic in nature.

homo brutus(orcs)- Relations to be assumed to be cautionary even if allied.Demi-humans with great strength, anger, and ferocity, extremely war-like in nature.

homo brutus inferiorus(goblin)- Species to be treated as dangerous to its citizens and ours only if in contact. Relations otherwise standard. These demi-humans live underground for the most part and are extremely adept at cobbling together rudimentary technologies with a tendency to be as dangerous to the user as any intended recipient.

homo sapiens camelius- Standard relations are to be observed. A species of demi-humans residing the nation of Camel Eaters who are the sane genetic material as humans, with the bvariation that they have acid glands.

Sea Reapers- Standard relations are to be observed. Peaceful species of sea-dwelling creatures whose primary focus' are arts and culture. Species assumed to be highly dangerous in event of war.

Land Reapers- Standard relations are to be observed. Stocky demi-humans with immense strength. Their society's primary goal is dominance over the Sea Reapers and extreme militarized society reflects this.

Smarties- A species of miniature demi-humans with large craniums. Highly intelligent, little applicable foreign affairs. Relations to assume they are under care of Reapers.

homo tyrannosaurus- An extreme demi-human which exists as military vassal to MassPwnage armed forces. Capable of carrying extreme loads, resisting tissue and kinetic damage. No relations to be observed with this species unless they break from MassPwnage.

homo draconus longevitus- Standard relations are to be observed. A species of demi-human with scales and age far longer tehn human lifespans. Average height one to two feet taller than homo sapiens, generally peaceful in nature.

Non-bipedal
Demonus Gopherus- Species to be treated same as brutus inferiorus. Relations otherwise normal. A race of demonic gophers who prefer to live underground in tunnels.

Hive Organisms
Tyranids- Highly dangerous. Exterminate upon sight. Race of warlike extra-terrestrial alien beings whose sole purpose is to serve their hivemind. Capable of stripping away all life upon a planet. Extreme genetic variation. Predisposed to close-quarters combat.

Slivers- Highly dangerous. Exterminate upon sight. Race of warlike snake-like beings who exist only to serve their hivemind. Capable of stripping away all life upon a planet. Predisposed to close-quarters combat.

Unknown Organisms
Carnivorous reptiles encountered outside Mining Area A-105- Very dangerous. Approach with extreme caution.


Should the need come up, other species will quickly be added to this listing.

Samtonian Diplomatic Release
In the interest of setting the standard for interspecies relations with the sudden spike in non-human activity recently, the Samtonian Department of State and the Samtonian department of Health are pleased to announce the cataloging of all known senitient species to be nearing completion.

This list is to be a definitive guide on interspecies relations between Samtonia and representatives or nations comprised of various species. This will not be a radical departure in policy and is simply putting to paper what have been standard legislative actions over the last thirty years.

Catalogue of Senitient Species
Bipedal
homo sapiens- Standard relations.
homo inferiorus(dwarves)- Standard relations.
homo longevitus(elves)- Species known to remeber slights for extended periods. Relationship standard.
homo brutus(orcs)- Relations to be assumed to be mild even if allied. Species to be treated with caution.
homo brutus inferiorus(goblin)- Species to be treated as dangerous to its citizens and ours, only if in contact. Relations otherwise normal.

Non-bipedal
Demonus Gopherus- Species to be treated same as brutus inferiorus. Relations otherwise normal.

Hive Organisms
Tyranid- Highly dangerous. Exterminate upon sight.
Sliver- Highly dangerous. Exterminate upon sight.

Unknown Organisms
Carnivorous reptiles encountered outside Mining Area A-105- Very dangerous. Approach with extreme caution.


Should the need come up, other species will quickly be added to this listing.

The sliver queen resents being labeld as terminate on sight, since the hive only wishes to live and grow, not destroy non-threatening nations.

What of us? We are Cephalopods that live with humans in a nice relationship.

What about Camel Eaters? Eh eh? We're like humans. Well actually humans. But different. We produce toxins. Yeah. Oh yeah whoot!

I don't see any bipedal lionide space commies?

"You have missed off a few species at least, my friend. You may be interested in adding the 'Sea Reapers', the 'Smarties' and the 'Land Reapers' to help complete your catalogue. Good luck."

- Queen Sappho of the Sea Reapers



"It doesn't look very complete to me, fool! I say you mark down a race called 'Sea Reapers' and list them as disgusting abominations of nature."

- Lord Krat, Overlord of the Land Reapers



"I say chaps, can I have a drink?"

- Bob, random Smartie

All oversights to be corrected shortly. However, explanations of your species would be helpful in Samtonian determination of diplomatic status.

As to the Slivers: It really doesn't matter what you tell us. Your nation is a highly geared war machine, capable of literally ripping apart any nation should it be allowed access. You produce soldiers and only that, experiment with various chemicals to evolve them rapidly, and attack in massed waves rending apart all opposition. In order to survive, you must either fight or strip the surrounding area of all life.

Due to these factors, diplomacy is not possible and the exterminate on sight order stands, for the good of humanity. Solution? Don't come near us.

Samtonian Board of Species Review

All oversights to be corrected shortly. However, explanations of your species would be helpful in Samtonian determination of diplomatic status.

"All three of those I listed are, as you might say, 'humanoid'. Smarties are adorable, docile little creatures who are content to simply roam around. We the Sea Reapers are a peaceful aquatic race, and we have no aggressive tendancies.
The Land Reapers, on the other hand, are little more than barbarians with access to guns. You might want to keep an eye out for them, as if they were to ever successfully conquer these lands I doubt they would be content to just exist peacefully on a single island for very long.
I believe there are more details on a 'factbook' of some kind. I hope that I have been of some help to your project."

- Queen Sappho of the Sea Reapers



"Sea Reapers? They smell like salt water and walk around with their blue skin and thin clothes like they're some kind of gods. Primitive scum, that's what they are. We Land Reapers are a great and wise race -- you have nothing to fear from us. There are no other sentient species living in these lands. You got that? NONE."

- Lord Krat, Overlord of the Land Reapers



"Hello? Can I have some beer? Or just a nicely cooked meal? Isn't this the pub?"

- Bob, random Smartie

"The Lizardman demands to be added."-The Great Leader Li.

Lizardman:

Scientific Name: Deinoychus Sapiens
Height: About 12-15 ft.
Length: About 24-28 feet, assuming a forward lean position is adapted.
Weight: 1600-2000 lbs.

Notes:

Senses other than human senses:
*Infrared signature sensing
*Heightened sense of smell, taste, sight, hearing and touch

Extremely tough hide.

Extremely high muscle and bone density.

Great physical endurance and high running speed.

Razor sharp teeth, claws, talons and a 36 in. barb on their tails

Poison loaded bite.

Capable of crossbreeding with humans.

Reproduces by laying 150 eggs at a time. However, only 1-2 eggs survive, because they eat their sibilings for sustenance.

RP Implications: I basically deploy lizards as light vehicles in lieu of offensively oriented utility vehicles, seeing that they can actually carry more firepower than a hummer can. However, they consume huge amounts of food, which is a major drawback.

Bump. The list was updated and expanded a bit.

ooc: hey! add my species thinggy!

[u]homo brutus inferiorus(goblin)- Species to be treated as dangerous to its citizens and ours only if in contact. Relations otherwise standard. These demi-humans live underground for the most part and are extremely adept at cobbling together rudimentary technologies with a tendency to be as dangerous to the user as any intended recipient.

Not only do we resent being treated as 'dangerous', you ALSO put us in the same family as dwarves.
If your going to class Goblins as this, at least give us SOME decency.
That and (as far as we know) Goblins have no relations at all to dwarves, who appear to be (as you said) demi-humans, Goblins have a copper based blood system, and thus simply could not have evolved from humans OR dwarves.

(OOC:
If your up to it, check out the Goblinology thread I posted a while back, lots of stuff you might find interesting ;))

We do resent your insinuation that we here at Samtonian Departments of Health do not know our own naming systme. You will note your three-part name:

homo
brutus
inferiorus

Homo, being the first, signifies bipedal and intelligent status. Brutus then signifies your belonging to the same class as orcs. Inferiorus then signifies your size and power imbalance with said orcs. Our guide is in tip-top scientific shape, thank you very much.

As for classification of dangerous, one doesn't have to be around goblins to have heard the myriads of stories about innovations, inventions, and even proven technology going up in flames, steam, or explosives. The listing as dangerous stands as long as you carry out any type of research or production above the subsitence level.

Office of the Samtonian Departments of Health
Director Alec Mains

You also forgot to mention Homo draconus longevitus (The people of Flaming Souls)
They appear to be Human in nature, however are slightly taller, around 1 or 2 feet. They also have a fine scale structure due to their lineage. Other than this, the average Soulian has no 'odd' appearance that is natural. They tend to be more reserved with the few exceptions being a little risque.

Well, that explains it. We thought you were using the more traditional classification system by species, family, class and so on.
At least remove the demi-human part, since its rather untrue in any case.
We would like to point out, for your comment about our research, to our successful development/testing of an atomic bomb, and a nearly successful space-launch, which did NOT in fact, explode. It worked quite well, but we didnt build a big enough rocket.

One question. Are the people of your nation as long-lived as homo sapiens longevitus(elves)? If no, longevistus will not be added onto your description- it exists as an explanatory measure for the number one feature of elves, namely their extreme age.

Office of the Samtonian Departments of Health
Director Alec Mains

They live longer, due to the draconic blood. There are reported cases of a 5000 year old man...

Well, that explains it. We thought you were using the more traditional classification system by species, family, class and so on.
At least remove the demi-human part, since its rather untrue in any case.
We would like to point out, for your comment about our research, to our successful development/testing of an atomic bomb, and a nearly successful space-launch, which did NOT in fact, explode. It worked quite well, but we didnt build a big enough rocket.

Unfortunately, standard classification fails in the light of many if not most species eparting entirely from standard classifications. In light of this, a new system had to be divised for the species which fell under the classification of "intelligent."

As for demi-human, that is a rather broad descriptive word which was used in more archaic terminology to denote senitient status. It's a hold over from our pre-list days. Sorry for any confusion.[OOC- That and D+D dies a hard death....]

As for any status on current goblin technology, until all goblin techniology in standard use can be brought to standard human safety levels, it will continue to be considered dangerous. Remeber, Mr.....ahh, whatever your title is. For every piece of technological wonderment which worked, there are a dozen which didn't.

Office of the Samtonian Departments of Health
Director Alec Mains

Unfortunately, standard classification fails in the light of many if not most species eparting entirely from standard classifications. In light of this, a new system had to be divised for the species which fell under the classification of "intelligent."

As for demi-human, that is a rather broad descriptive word which was used in more archaic terminology to denote senitient status. It's a hold over from our pre-list days. Sorry for any confusion.[OOC- That and D+D dies a hard death....]

As for any status on current goblin technology, until all goblin techniology in standard use can be brought to standard human safety levels, it will continue to be considered dangerous. Remeber, Mr.....ahh, whatever your title is. For every piece of technological wonderment which worked, there are a dozen which didn't.

Office of the Samtonian Departments of Health
Director Alec Mains

Naturaly, you can use any system you feel is appropriate for classification, it might be a good idea to notify the readers of this in the future to avoid such confusion as we have just experienced. Perhaps posting the general meaning of some of the more common terms for those who dont know your system?
Demi-Human still appears to say that the species in question is inferior to humans somehow, this is not a threat, but some species take offense to that, and act somewhat more violently than we have.
Saftey levels...not all HUMAN technology qualifies to human saftey levels, thus far our technology has been quite safe by Goblin standards, it breaks down often, but its easy to fix and usualy doesnt kill anybody.
The only actual technology thats dangerous to its operators is either intended to be, or is in the hands of alchemists, out of the way of normal Goblins.
We are quite sure that any human nation you pick will have a FEW moderatly crazed scientists, we believe that it is one of the qualifications. Its merely more pronounced in our scientists than in yours.

As for my title, Speaker will do. Most Goblins dont speak English very well, their vocal chords and toungs simply arent designed for vowels and such. A few hundred years back one of the Kings had a moment of inspiration and rounded up all the Goblins that could speak passable English and married them to other Goblins who could speak passable English, resulting in a bunch of Goblins that could speak fair English. You get the idea.

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[OOC- Also,final bump for the night.]

My race the Eternal a race of people billions of years old that have never ending life with quite a few of our people over a billion years old. They have supernatural physical and mental powers kind of like that of a psychic but beyond their powers by far.

the major races of gelfland include the Predesessors, a name given to us by settlers that we have accepted, because until their arrival, we saw no need to refer to ourselves so collectively. their ideals allowed them to adapt readily to our society, which places high value on harmony with nature. appearence wise, we are apporomately 1 meter tall, and have significantly larger and more pointed ears than humans, our noses are less pronounced, and our heads are somewhat more pointed in the jawline.

{ooc:basically, Gelflings, if You havn't seen "the Dark crystal" picture kind of a cross between elves and Hobbits.}

The sliver queen finds your position hostile to the continued existence of the hive, you must be destroyed to remove the threat you pose, we will destroy your cities, crush your armies, and sow your fields with salt that nothing shall grow for a hundred years. We are coming for you.

OOC: This is a perfect reason for that training conflict you wanted, the slivers don't deal well with threats to the hive, they tend to react violently so this was pretty much inevitable. I'll make the thread around Five united states eastern time

The thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418535 I'll enjoy this alot.