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Slaves for sale! Cheap!

Quentulus Qazgar
06-05-2005, 20:06
This is the cargo my navy confiscated a week ago when they raided a smugglers' tanker. Since it is forbidden for those not of pure blood to come inside the borders of our great nation, it is my sacred duty to keep a general slave-market on board the tanker that is nowadays rightfully property of the Quentulus Qazgar navy.
Here is the list and prices:

-2000 foreign females (10-50 years old) - 500$ each (+-200$ depending on the age, fitness, looks and possible diseases)
-3000 foreign males (7-60 years old) - 1000$ each (+-400$ depending on the age, fitness, willingness to hard work and possible diseases)
-5000 animals (not near enough to pure blood to be taken for humans) 1$ each, take away!

The list may look quite small but the simple reason is that we don't recognize many lower beings as humans.
Theao
06-05-2005, 20:12
We protest this flagrent abuse of human rights. Also if you refuse to allow those not native to your land entrance to your territitory, how do you plan to make trade/diplomatic relations with other nations or accuire tourist money?
Kaukolastan
06-05-2005, 20:13
The Government of Kaukolastan will take all of these "slaves". They will be liberated, emancipated, and given the option to remain in Kaukolastan, or return to their home nations.

How would you like the currency?

If there is evidence of mistreatment on any sentient being, there will be hell to pay.
The Scandinvans
06-05-2005, 20:14
If your nation pratices slavery why aren't you keeping thise of pure blood.
Quentulus Qazgar
06-05-2005, 20:14
We protest this flagrent abuse of human rights. Also if you refuse to allow those not native to your land entrance to your territitory, how do you plan to make trade/diplomatic relations with other nations or accuire tourist money?
Well, my country is so big we don't need any foreign tourists here.
This is the best way to fight against terrorism.
Quentulus Qazgar
06-05-2005, 20:15
If your nation pratices slavery why aren't you keeping thise of pure blood.
We make slaves only out of animals. There's an answer to your question.
Quentulus Qazgar
06-05-2005, 20:15
If your nation pratices slavery why aren't you keeping thise of pure blood.
We make slaves only out of animals. There's an answer to your question.
Quentulus Qazgar
06-05-2005, 20:18
The Government of Kaukolastan will take all of these "slaves". They will be liberated, emancipated, and given the option to remain in Kaukolastan, or return to their home nations.

How would you like the currency?

If there is evidence of mistreatment on any sentient being, there will be hell to pay.
OOC: Damn! Some problems with the connection!
IC:You can pay either with cash or electronically but if the money doesn't appear to my bank account soon enough, I'll start a violent war!
The Moepoeian Republic
06-05-2005, 20:34
We find this appawling and a complete disgrace to human race. how can you treat people like animals and sell them off like they are meat? This is against human rights.

Minister of Diplomatic Relations,
Allegra Luanna
Kaukolastan
06-05-2005, 20:40
OOC: Damn! Some problems with the connection!
IC:You can pay either with cash or electronically but if the money doesn't appear to my bank account soon enough, I'll start a violent war!
DNF Naval Station Arbalest
Command Tower
Communications Suite
The light was streaming through the canted window, a starching white splash from the rising sun. The shadows were cast in relief, and every stone and metal gleamed like the crystal seas below. The tropical forest were alive with the calls of the wild, but these were almost drowned by the shriek of bosun's pipes and the clang of ships bells, the roar of cranes and the announcements that rang from the adress system.

High above the booming port, the thronging crowds of merchants and sailors, the command tower rose, a single carbon-steel structure, encased in a fiber wrap and ceramic surface. The brown faux stone monolith pierced the sky, rising above the height of the island's dead volcano, blooming out again as it rose, fanning out like a flower into tens of VTOL pads and stations.

Near the top of the construct, in a room that stretched from edge to edge, a ring of windows that bounced the searing light into the pits and nooks of the ultra-modern facility, an Ensign glanced up from his worktable, turning away from his monitor. "Comms relays transmission, sir."

The Officer on Deck, a naval term that carried into even the Seabelt land facilities, nodded. "They threaten us with war?" The smooth faced Commander glanced back to the holotank, the myriad of naval vessels moving through the Seabelt, smirking with the smugness so often associated with Kaukolastanis. "Make sure our pickup merchant fleet is well escorted, and if anything begins... have Pegasus in the sky."

"Aye, sir." The comms technician tapped his touchscreen, dragging the slight hologram across the display, then tapping another to the surface. "Acknowledgement sent, money transferred, and pickup sent. ETA, fourteen hours."

Transfer acknowledged and sent. We will provide a merchant fleet to pickup the cargo, and we will escort it. We recommend a delivery point in International Waters. Send coordinates.
Roman Republic
06-05-2005, 20:43
You have reached rock bottom. I order you under the New UN to halt your slave trade triangle. Slaves are people not propery. If you don't I'll dogged your entire people and the government.
Kaukolastan
06-05-2005, 20:50
OOC: More detail after I mow the lawn.

Merchant Fleet Consists of:
2 - Good Hope Hospital Ships
4 - Oceania-Line Cruise Ships for Liberated Peoples

Defense Fleet Consists of:
1 - Admiral Grav Class Battlecruiser [Flag]
2 - Adamant Class Destroyers
1 - Oracle Class Frigate
1 - Pelican VTOL Carrier
2 - Lamprey Class Skimmer Carriers
8 - Logistical Vessels (Food, Fuel, Utility Ships)

I don't actually have stats for the ships, but the Grav is the command ship, a light fast "mini-battleship" that mounts full powered armaments with less armor, the destroyers are, like all my stuff, "stealthy" vessels with light armaments. The Frigate is a sensor and AEGIS-type vessel, with BattleNet uplink. The Pelican is a VTOL carrier (small vessel, not a supercarrier). The Lamprey's carry surface effects "skimmers" that are used by my navy. Logistics vessels are there because they're needed. This is not an agressive fleet but a defensive one, designed to protect the merchant marine in case of ambush or foul play.

The Hospital ships are just that... to care for the liberated people. The cruise ships are fully stocked, to help them celebrate their emancipation in style... for free from my gov't.

EDIT: We would, ICly, allow the presence of world media, or ambassadors. Non-Governmental Organizations, like the Red Cross, would be allowed and encouraged, but they would be on the Merchant vessels only. (Duh.) If you send any non-military aide, we'd encourage it. (We're a civilized (way-too civilized, sometimes) people. We get off on "being the good guy".) Military aide would be politely declined (pride, you know).
Spanigland
06-05-2005, 20:53
Spanigland strongly protest against this blatant breach of human rights.
We are disgusted at the sale of humans, and advise you to stop this malicious, corrupt, and imorral act immideately.
-- Miguel Barthez
Head of spanigladian department of human rights
Fascist Confederacy
06-05-2005, 21:08
The Worldwide Mir Initiative Official Statement
Release By Directing Nation: The Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics

The rouge nation of Quentulus Qazgar has become a nation of interest by the Worldwide Mir (Peace in Russian) Initiative. The WMI was designed to combat such human rights. Thus, the nation of Quentulus Qazgar may be charged and pursued for the following international crimes against humanity:

The selling of human beings for proft.
Un-safe transportation of human beings.
Possible genocide.
And - possibly - forced famine.

Please expect the Worldwide Mir Iniative to follow-up with the nation of Quentulus Qazgar if they refuse to cease the selling of human beings.
Kanuckistan
06-05-2005, 21:08
Following shortly on the heels of this anouncment, an anonymous group has anounced a $15'000'000'000'000(fifteen trillion) USD reward for the first group, nation, or alliance to overthrow the existing government of Quentulus Qazgar and institute racial equality, provided said group is neither an ally of, nor native to, Quentulus Qazgar.


Meanwhile, another, unrelated anonymous group makes inquiries into the purchase of any other future slaves Quentulus Qazgar may be looking to export befor they go to public market(OOC: And no, not to set them free).
Spanigland
06-05-2005, 21:15
If this is not stopped immideatly, spanigland and spaniglaandos will send whatever millitary power they have to free the slaves.
You have little time. The 5000 coallition troops are already prepared, along with 80 tanks, and 20 state of the art fighters. And 10 reasonably dated fighter bombers.

ooc: i know it's not much, but my nation really don't have that much
Roman Republic
06-05-2005, 21:15
OCC; Will Special Forces work, I can hack, send spies to bring havoc onto the Slave nation
Kaukolastan
06-05-2005, 21:28
OOC: Sheesh, I'm just going to buy them and be done with it. Eh, little delay on my postage, since I've been called into work. Sorry, peeps.
Quentulus Qazgar
07-05-2005, 12:13
OOC: More detail after I mow the lawn.

Merchant Fleet Consists of:
2 - Good Hope Hospital Ships
4 - Oceania-Line Cruise Ships for Liberated Peoples

Defense Fleet Consists of:
1 - Admiral Grav Class Battlecruiser [Flag]
2 - Adamant Class Destroyers
1 - Oracle Class Frigate
1 - Pelican VTOL Carrier
2 - Lamprey Class Skimmer Carriers
8 - Logistical Vessels (Food, Fuel, Utility Ships)

I don't actually have stats for the ships, but the Grav is the command ship, a light fast "mini-battleship" that mounts full powered armaments with less armor, the destroyers are, like all my stuff, "stealthy" vessels with light armaments. The Frigate is a sensor and AEGIS-type vessel, with BattleNet uplink. The Pelican is a VTOL carrier (small vessel, not a supercarrier). The Lamprey's carry surface effects "skimmers" that are used by my navy. Logistics vessels are there because they're needed. This is not an agressive fleet but a defensive one, designed to protect the merchant marine in case of ambush or foul play.

The Hospital ships are just that... to care for the liberated people. The cruise ships are fully stocked, to help them celebrate their emancipation in style... for free from my gov't.

EDIT: We would, ICly, allow the presence of world media, or ambassadors. Non-Governmental Organizations, like the Red Cross, would be allowed and encouraged, but they would be on the Merchant vessels only. (Duh.) If you send any non-military aide, we'd encourage it. (We're a civilized (way-too civilized, sometimes) people. We get off on "being the good guy".) Military aide would be politely declined (pride, you know).

All, right. Just send in the cash and there will be no trouble.

And everyone out there who say that we don't care for human rights and treat these slaves miserably! Their current situation is totally their own fault. They should have picked another ship but no! They really needed to pick just one of the few rogue vessels that dare to sail these waters.
Sephrioth
07-05-2005, 13:04
a lone draggon weapons sattlite locks on to Quentulus Qazgar and arms phont torpedoes.
message to the slaver nation i lord ryu of sephrioth, advise you to cease the seale of slave immedatilty if not we will flaten you.
MassPwnage
07-05-2005, 13:19
ooc: Seph, no FT, and learn how to spell.
The Merchant Guilds
07-05-2005, 13:22
OOC: 75 Trillion, you maybe a dec 02 but isn't that a little excessive even for your funding :) (Adding a point (7.5) would make more sense).

Nobody noticed the fact my entire economy is based on slaves, even when I RPed the Grand Imperial Slave market, strange that half the world comes threatening when a small nation trades a very small amount of slaves.

IC:

Since our entire economy is based on the use of slaves, we have found that such nations are very useful for importing the 2 million slaves per annum that we require to keep on top of the amount of human material, required to help the ever expanding Imperial Guilder Empire acquire even more power.

We therefore must warn the nations threatening military action that such things will not be tolerated by the Imperial Guilder Empire or by our mighty allies.

We also note with much amusement the Imperialistic ambitions of the USSR, which as usual defies it's own Communist logic.

- Random Slave-Owning Guilder Bureaucrat
Kanuckistan
07-05-2005, 13:51
OOC: 75 Trillion, you maybe a dec 02 but isn't that a little excessive even for your funding :) (Adding a point (7.5) would make more sense).


OOC:
14% of the defence budget for 10 years, or 5 years worth of government waste(which I like to think of as the 'eccentricity budget').

In retrospect, I might ammend it, but it apears there's no interest regaurdless.
The Merchant Guilds
07-05-2005, 16:27
OOC:

Yeah it's possible (having checked Thirdgeek), but I really think you should amend it just because it's an insane amount of money for that kind of thing and your Government (assuming a 100% tax rate) would have a fair few problems even paying that off. :)

/thread hijack
Kanuckistan
07-05-2005, 17:08
OOC:

Yeah it's possible (having checked Thirdgeek), but I really think you should amend it just because it's an insane amount of money for that kind of thing and your Government (assuming a 100% tax rate) would have a fair few problems even paying that off. :)

/thread hijack

OOC:
Not really. Besides, insane amount of money was the idea.

But, eh, I'll cut it down to 15 tril; the navy really deserves those extra gold-plated toilets.
Soviet leaders
07-05-2005, 17:51
IC: who really cares about human rights they were stupid for going into that nation so it is there own problem and if you want we will send first aid people in there to make sure that they are being given food and water. We are FT and we smile at you human rights people we have planets that have slavery becaues are nations actual government dose not take a side it is consitered up to the government system of the planet we only have 2 planets out of 20 that has slavery and I will not allow any of you to attack them.
Children of Valkyrja
07-05-2005, 17:56
You can pay either with cash or electronically but if the money doesn't appear to my bank account soon enough, I'll start a violent war!

You have a wonderful attitude to trade.
Almost as wonderful as you have to the use and miss-use of sentient beings.

Your nation is pathetic and not worthy of all of this attention.

Brusca
Valkyrja of Odin
Greater Valia
07-05-2005, 18:05
ooc: Seph, no FT, and learn how to spell.

ooc: Thats just normal with Seph... Best thing to do is I.G.N.O.R.E. him.
Madnestan
07-05-2005, 18:09
Merchant Guild, as Madnestan has just recently ended her civil war and as we still lack working power for rebuild, we are willing to buy some 500,000 slaves during 3 next months. Their age shall be 15 - 30, and some 3/5 of them males, as our population now consists less men than women. Those humans, however, shall not be tolerated as "slaves", not at all. They will immediately become part of our population, even though they have to first go through camps where our language and ways of living are taught to them. Human rights and laws are surely beeing followed. If other nations have "unwelcome" but still relatively young and healthy population inside their borders, they can send those to us. Even criminals, as our salt mines need new workers.

Thank you for your attention,
Colonel Tamujid, Minister of Trade
Mini Miehm
07-05-2005, 18:12
ooc: Thats just normal with Seph... Best thing to do is I.G.N.O.R.E. him.

OOC: you bastards, give the guy a break, he's dyslexic, he can't help it.
Greater Valia
07-05-2005, 18:15
OOC: you bastards, give the guy a break, he's dyslexic, he can't help it.
ooc: If Jesus told me that I wouldnt believe it. And Ive been around longer than you and have therefore dealt with him longer. AND that doesnt change the fact that he god mods.
Mini Miehm
07-05-2005, 18:18
ooc: If Jesus told me that I wouldnt believe it. And Ive been around longer than you and have therefore dealt with him longer. AND that doesnt change the fact that he god mods.

OOC:you're not gonna believe that a guy can't spell very well because he's dyslexic? That's pretty ignorant.
Children of Valkyrja
07-05-2005, 18:21
OOC.

Godmodding aside.
I am getting a little tired of people dragging up the fact that spelling is a real issue when roleplaying.

This forum is English based, but the amount of players who aren't English and have to struggle with it having to use a second language is huge.

That and the fact that there are those out there who are dyslexic, why put such a high relavency on it?

If the posting afronts you so much ignore it, if it doesn't and you are interested in playing with that person then just ignore the bad use of English or poor spelling.
DARKNESSSSSSSSSS
07-05-2005, 18:24
So basicly selling slaves is BS its wrong you damn cracker heads!!
Madnestan
08-05-2005, 21:50
Is anyone interrested about the ISSUE here, ladz? I thought there was actual Rp going on, so please save that spelling-conversation for another thread if possible. About that, i still just have to say that i wouldn't dare to post here if my english'd be any worse than it currently is. I have serious problems reading the text some Europeans are typing here. Ppl, if ya dunno how to type correctly please read these forums/go back to school for a time long enough to come up with some serious stuff.

Meanwhile, the Madnestanian government wishes to know if there is any possibility to get those "workers" we were talking about. If anyone is wiling to sell some, please announce that.

Sincerely yours, Col. Tamujid, Minister of Trade
Madnestan
09-05-2005, 13:59
BUMPage
Cobdenia
09-05-2005, 14:23
The Cobdenian Governor Air Chief Marshal Sir Clive Cholmondsey-Cholmondsey-Smythe sat at his desk, on which was a rather tempting offer.
His 'devil' appeared on his shoulder
"Cheap slaves? Think of what it would do for your economy! You'll be rich! Everyone will be rich! Who care's if they're slaves? They'd just be subsistence farmers otherwise!"
Seconds after his 'devil' appeared, his 'angle' appeared on his other shoulder
"Think of the poor slaves! How can you possibly consider such a human rights violation? And, Cobdenia is in the UN. You're not allowed to have slaves"
His devil retorted
"You could always leave the UN"
"Enough" shouted Sir Clive, his angle and devil vanishing immeadiately. He resorted to his favourite method of settling an argument with himself.
He took out a coin: "Heads, I denounce the sale and stay in the UN, or Tails, I leave the UN and get some slaves".
He tossed the coin in the air. It seemed to hover in mid air before finally landing on....
Madnestan
09-05-2005, 15:08
Here in Madnestan we think that the word "slave" does not mean the same in different cultures. In our nation, we have some lower class workers who lack the right of voting, but they get that right when they have been in job for 15 to 20 years. Without trying to escape, that is. All those workers are "owned" by the government: individual person can never own, buy or sell anyone. As long as they work for our beloved country, their rights are taken care of, and no crimes against them can be done without a punishment. This is they it has been, and this is the way it shall be.
if Cobdenia is about to leagalize slavery, we can sincerey recommend this kind of a system.

Now. Is there anyone capable of delivering some half a million (500,000) slaves (yes, we still use that word) within some 2 years? The sum of 0,5 million is only the final amount, and smaller groups can be bought as well. Between ages of 10 and 35, preferably most of them males. Good health is required.
Millitary might
09-05-2005, 15:55
Millitary might is willing to offer 1.3 Million for all the slaves and animals. What we do with them is our own problems.
Cobdenia
09-05-2005, 16:37
...heads.
Official transmission from the Cobdenian Governorate:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/JimRad-Mac/cobdencoat.gif
We denouce this sale of human beings. It is a gross violation of human rights, and akin, in our view, to genocide. We applaud those nations who have previously shewn there disgust, and further applaud those who take military action against The Borderlands of Quentulus Qazgar. We utterly condemn the government of The Borderlands of Quentulus Qazgar, and those participating in such a hideous and outdated pratice.

Signed
HE Air Chief Marshal Sir Clive Cholmondsey-Cholmondsey-Smythe KCMG DFC
Governor-General of the Dominion of Cobdenia

Rear-Admiral The Honourable Leslie Featherstonehaugh-Michelwhaite CMG DSO
Deputy Governor-General of the Dominion of Cobdenia

The Rt. Hon. Rory Relp, MHA
Cobdenian Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
Madnestan
09-05-2005, 16:58
YAWWNNN.... If the hippies have gone now, can we discuss some serious business? :p
It has occured that Madnesia is not alone with her request for new workers. All we need now is someone to offer them. Is there any?
Children of Valkyrja
09-05-2005, 17:02
Hippies?
What are they then?
I don't think Odin and the Valkyrja can be termed as hippies (whatever they may be), but we condone any form of slavery of any race human or none.

We much prefer integration rather than domination these days, get much more out of people that way......
Californian Refugees
09-05-2005, 17:19
At a packed meeting hall deep within C.R. territory.....

"......These are our brothers! Each of you knows personally what it is like to live in a world hostile to you! Some of you have experienced being treated as second-class citizens in some of the many lands that we have wandered through after leaving California! We cannot, we will not allow this....atrocity to continue! Open borders to those that wish to settle among us is no longer enough! We must actively help those that are held in bondage, we must bring them out again into the light of freedom, to determine for themSELVES what kind of life they would live, without their basic human rights being thus stripped from them! Refugees of California, I challenge each and every one of you to become personally responsible for this unacceptable situation, and work TOGETHER, as ONE, to change it..........."

OOC: And so the underground railroad of NationStates begins. Any other nations care to mobilize their citizenry? Of course, as far as the IC slave-traders go, as this movement gains momentum, there should be a small percentage of slaves that are taken to freedom before they can be sold, affecting your ability to deliver on contracts made :)
The Merchant Guilds
09-05-2005, 20:30
Merchant Guild, as Madnestan has just recently ended her civil war and as we still lack working power for rebuild, we are willing to buy some 500,000 slaves during 3 next months. Their age shall be 15 - 30, and some 3/5 of them males, as our population now consists less men than women. Those humans, however, shall not be tolerated as "slaves", not at all. They will immediately become part of our population, even though they have to first go through camps where our language and ways of living are taught to them. Human rights and laws are surely beeing followed. If other nations have "unwelcome" but still relatively young and healthy population inside their borders, they can send those to us. Even criminals, as our salt mines need new workers.

Thank you for your attention,
Colonel Tamujid, Minister of Trade

OOC: Did you not read my post, I have to import 2 million per year to keep up with my economy even including the encouragement of slave breeding :) (I'm not having a go at you, don't worry).

IC:

We do not sell those who are in the course of having their souls purified or those who are of inferior racial characteristics. They are required in our mines, factories, experiment labs, farms as well as the many dangerous and menial jobs they perform in the service of the Imperial Guilder Empire.

Those slaves who are honoured are allowed to join the Legions of the Cross, in order that they might die with honour and be allowed into heaven when the time of Revelations comes.

Thus, we must refuse your offer, especially as you would only pollute their souls and minds with evil and satanic thoughts.

-Random Imperial Guilder Bureaucrat
The Merchant Guilds
09-05-2005, 20:36
At a packed meeting hall deep within C.R. territory.....

"......These are our brothers! Each of you knows personally what it is like to live in a world hostile to you! Some of you have experienced being treated as second-class citizens in some of the many lands that we have wandered through after leaving California! We cannot, we will not allow this....atrocity to continue! Open borders to those that wish to settle among us is no longer enough! We must actively help those that are held in bondage, we must bring them out again into the light of freedom, to determine for themSELVES what kind of life they would live, without their basic human rights being thus stripped from them! Refugees of California, I challenge each and every one of you to become personally responsible for this unacceptable situation, and work TOGETHER, as ONE, to change it..........."

OOC: And so the underground railroad of NationStates begins. Any other nations care to mobilize their citizenry? Of course, as far as the IC slave-traders go, as this movement gains momentum, there should be a small percentage of slaves that are taken to freedom before they can be sold, affecting your ability to deliver on contracts made :)

OOC: Make a seperate thread for it. You will probably get a lot of interest some nations you might want to target for this kind of RP would be:

Parthia (The Parthians)
Roach-Busters (this is a maybe don't know if he has slaves, altho. I am sure he has shoobans)
Myself

Remember to read the stickies and make sure you write decent length posts, then you will get quite a lot of interested persons.

If you want to organise something, feel free to TG.
Madnestan
09-05-2005, 21:13
Aww... I somehow managed to misread it. Don't ask how. :headbang:
Anyways, if anyone interrested in selling slaves, Madnestan will buy some.
Californian Refugees
10-05-2005, 06:57
OOC: Make a seperate thread for it. You will probably get a lot of interest some nations you might want to target for this kind of RP would be:

Parthia (The Parthians)
Roach-Busters (this is a maybe don't know if he has slaves, altho. I am sure he has shoobans)
Myself
Nah, I kinda think its relevent here. Throughout history, those that disagreed with slavery went to where people were being abused to fight it. If they want to deal in slaves realistically, then they are going to have to put up with a few abolitionists making their "business" run less smoothly.

Remember to read the stickies and make sure you write decent length posts, then you will get quite a lot of interested persons.
Yeah, I know how to RP well. I just don't have the time and energy after work and everything else to do it properly, in the quantity needed to be a true part of the RP action.

If you want to organise something, feel free to TG.
Maybe you or someone else would like to take it from here? I was just trying to begin a NS movement that looked like it needed beginning.
Vastiva
10-05-2005, 07:08
OOC: More detail after I mow the lawn.

Merchant Fleet Consists of:
2 - Good Hope Hospital Ships
4 - Oceania-Line Cruise Ships for Liberated Peoples

Defense Fleet Consists of:
1 - Admiral Grav Class Battlecruiser [Flag]
2 - Adamant Class Destroyers
1 - Oracle Class Frigate
1 - Pelican VTOL Carrier
2 - Lamprey Class Skimmer Carriers
8 - Logistical Vessels (Food, Fuel, Utility Ships)

I don't actually have stats for the ships, but the Grav is the command ship, a light fast "mini-battleship" that mounts full powered armaments with less armor, the destroyers are, like all my stuff, "stealthy" vessels with light armaments. The Frigate is a sensor and AEGIS-type vessel, with BattleNet uplink. The Pelican is a VTOL carrier (small vessel, not a supercarrier). The Lamprey's carry surface effects "skimmers" that are used by my navy. Logistics vessels are there because they're needed. This is not an agressive fleet but a defensive one, designed to protect the merchant marine in case of ambush or foul play.

The Hospital ships are just that... to care for the liberated people. The cruise ships are fully stocked, to help them celebrate their emancipation in style... for free from my gov't.

EDIT: We would, ICly, allow the presence of world media, or ambassadors. Non-Governmental Organizations, like the Red Cross, would be allowed and encouraged, but they would be on the Merchant vessels only. (Duh.) If you send any non-military aide, we'd encourage it. (We're a civilized (way-too civilized, sometimes) people. We get off on "being the good guy".) Military aide would be politely declined (pride, you know).

Ab-shalom and greetings;

Vastiva will be flying six IRCO observers to your ships in an MH-609 Pony helicopter, for humanitarian reasons. The observers include four medical professionals and the two pilots.

Namaste,
Dr. Patricia Weyker
Vastivan Public Health Agency
IRCO Liaison
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva
Automail
10-05-2005, 07:17
Do you have any convicted prisoniers you're willing to sell? Automail is currently going to need more labour to pick up the ruins of a city already in rebellion.
Madnestan
10-05-2005, 14:33
I made a whole new thread for that issue, but it has not been very popular... Even so, I wish that your nation - among others in need for new sla- workers - post their offers/requests in there :)
The Merchant Guilds
10-05-2005, 14:52
Nah, I kinda think its relevent here. Throughout history, those that disagreed with slavery went to where people were being abused to fight it. If they want to deal in slaves realistically, then they are going to have to put up with a few abolitionists making their "business" run less smoothly.

Yeah, I know how to RP well. I just don't have the time and energy after work and everything else to do it properly, in the quantity needed to be a true part of the RP action.

Maybe you or someone else would like to take it from here? I was just trying to begin a NS movement that looked like it needed beginning.

OOC:

What I mean is that if you so wished is that you could turn into a big RP, I know of people who are interested in it.

I'd suggust you run with it, I am happy to help but I don't really like taking some ideas from people.
Californian Refugees
10-05-2005, 19:21
OOC to Merchant Guilds: over the years, I've found that RPing is just a bit too much work for me. Any (easy to implement) suggestions to get something like that off the ground?
The Merchant Guilds
10-05-2005, 19:40
OOC to Merchant Guilds: over the years, I've found that RPing is just a bit too much work for me. Any (easy to implement) suggestions to get something like that off the ground?

OOC:

Easy, do all your work in MS Word and do it gradually.

I have a busy life, but if you dedicate some time per day (on a general basis) to RPing or writing posts for it, it gets easier.

If you wanted to start a thread of that possible magnatude (i.e. you'd have a lot of big slave owning nations realise whats going on and try finding out who is responsible), then I suggust asking several players on an invite basis (or have an interest thread for sign ups), I am sure players can help in that they can create some characters in their own slave underground, it would save you a lot of time that way.

The actual RP should be Closed, and then you don't have to worry about the 2 day old nations who have OMG 30 million troops... or even the big nations who RP like that.

Also, I.I. doesn't have huge post length expectations so you can get away with a few hundred words for an opening post, but i'd say try and get it longish to give details etc.

If you need help TG me, since we are hijacking this thread.

My msn is: ginrumi1@hotmail.com if you want to talk about it.
Roman Republic
10-05-2005, 20:44
I'm going to kill you son or a bitch for selling slaves and breaking the law passed that abolished slavery.
The Merchant Guilds
10-05-2005, 22:43
I'm going to kill you son or a bitch for selling slaves and breaking the law passed that abolished slavery.

OOC: Who you talking to RR?

And what law, I never passed a law against slavery. :)
Californian Refugees
10-05-2005, 23:59
Easy, do all your work in MS Word and do it gradually.

You don't understand. I don't want to dedicate large portions of my life to RPing. I don't find it relaxing or interesting enough to do so. You do it, if you like. I won't
/hijack
Roman Republic
11-05-2005, 00:46
OOC: Who you talking to RR?

And what law, I never passed a law against slavery. :)

What know you own slaves. I'm talking about the son of a bitch who made this thred. The law passed abolishing slavery was passed by several UN member because it abused human rights. If you have an issue motherfucker, I'll shoot you personally. I'll kill you and other nations who keep slaves. Ya heard!!
Kanuckistan
11-05-2005, 03:35
What know you own slaves. I'm talking about the son of a bitch who made this thred. The law passed abolishing slavery was passed by several UN member because it abused human rights. If you have an issue motherfucker, I'll shoot you personally. I'll kill you and other nations who keep slaves. Ya heard!!

OOC:
This sounds like you're making OOC death threats.

That is illegal iRL, by the way, even over the 'net.


Otherwise, well, you do have a point, in that Quentulus Qazgar is a UN member, for some strange reason. Of course, non-UN nations don't have to abide by UN laws.
Madnestan
11-05-2005, 16:24
If there comes a war between Roman Republic who tries to force Quentulus Qazgar to stop his trade of slaves by using armed forces, Madnestan will aid QQ. We support free trade, and wish that all others who share our point of view will back up the objetk of this attack.
Roman Republic
11-05-2005, 20:45
OOC:
This sounds like you're making OOC death threats.

That is illegal iRL, by the way, even over the 'net.


Otherwise, well, you do have a point, in that Quentulus Qazgar is a UN member, for some strange reason. Of course, non-UN nations don't have to abide by UN laws.

If there comes a war between Roman Republic who tries to force Quentulus Qazgar to stop his trade of slaves by using armed forces, Madnestan will aid QQ. We support free trade, and wish that all others who share our point of view will back up the objetk of this attack.

The none UN members will follow my rules.
If nations want slaves, they'll have to deal with me. They don't know that my people were taken slaves and dumped overboard ships because the whites haave too many. The Whits destroyed many great civilizations by using greed. And now the white man is apologizing to the Blacks or other races. Would you like to be a slave. I will hunt down Quentulus Qazgar and other slave owning and selling nations and they will be slaves to the UN.
Englerica
11-05-2005, 21:36
Would you like to be a slave. I will hunt down Quentulus Qazgar and other slave owning and selling nations and they will be slaves to the UN.

If they're going to be slaves of the UN then surley that undermines your entire objection? You solve abolishing slaves by making people slaves? Your logic is flawed.

However, I do happen to agree with RR here. Slaves are an old-fasioned form of life. I find it disgusting that slavery is still in action.

Please cease your current actions or face the consequences. Not just from me, but from many nations of this world.
Dratheria
12-05-2005, 03:10
Transmission

What kind of slaves do you sell? Like what kind of training do they have and what skills do they possess? I would like a complete list of slave types if possible. Just to be clear about everything. We would like to buy them and treat them as indentured servants for a few years give them a light salary then free them to pursue careers in whatever they wish. Their jobs will be of that working for the government. I f you all want to know why we're doing this its because of a recent war with Chronosia we have a shortage of workers. Also we have great healing technology, rehabilitation and training programs.

End Transmission
Kholar
12-05-2005, 03:23
for what it's worth, I officially protest.
And if anyone frees the slaves, I'll give them a Mountain Dew.
Dratheria
12-05-2005, 03:32
OOC: OOO I love Mountain Dew yummy
Roman Republic
12-05-2005, 03:43
If they're going to be slaves of the UN then surley that undermines your entire objection? You solve abolishing slaves by making people slaves? Your logic is flawed.

However, I do happen to agree with RR here. Slaves are an old-fasioned form of life. I find it disgusting that slavery is still in action.

Please cease your current actions or face the consequences. Not just from me, but from many nations of this world.

I ndon't care. I'll destroy the slave owning trash nations until the slave earn their freedom..
The Scandinvans
12-05-2005, 03:47
I will take 300 females 10 to 14 years of age we are willing to pay $140,000 to $100,000 for them as long as they are healthy with no spreadable diseases like Yellow Fever or STD's.

OCC: My slaves are more treated like serfs, but they wll be freed within ten years if they have not rebelled or harmed citzens of my country.
Kanuckistan
12-05-2005, 04:50
I ndon't care. I'll destroy the slave owning trash nations until the slave earn their freedom..

Actions speak louder than words. ;)
Roman Republic
12-05-2005, 04:54
Actions speak louder than words. ;)

You want to do a joined strike on slave owning and selling nation. We can both do it.
Gyrobot
12-05-2005, 06:15
At a packed meeting hall deep within C.R. territory.....

"......These are our brothers! Each of you knows personally what it is like to live in a world hostile to you! Some of you have experienced being treated as second-class citizens in some of the many lands that we have wandered through after leaving California! We cannot, we will not allow this....atrocity to continue! Open borders to those that wish to settle among us is no longer enough! We must actively help those that are held in bondage, we must bring them out again into the light of freedom, to determine for themSELVES what kind of life they would live, without their basic human rights being thus stripped from them! Refugees of California, I challenge each and every one of you to become personally responsible for this unacceptable situation, and work TOGETHER, as ONE, to change it..........."

OOC: And so the underground railroad of NationStates begins. Any other nations care to mobilize their citizenry? Of course, as far as the IC slave-traders go, as this movement gains momentum, there should be a small percentage of slaves that are taken to freedom before they can be sold, affecting your ability to deliver on contracts made :)

We have done such tasks before, we use weather manipulation and various forms of technology to liberate slaves from their cruel taskmasters.
The Merchant Guilds
12-05-2005, 09:49
I ndon't care. I'll destroy the slave owning trash nations until the slave earn their freedom..

OOC: If you want a war I am more than happy to. I am MT.

But don't you dare mix OOC and IC. I do not have to follow the UN resolutions since I am not in the UN and it's IC not OOC.


The none UN members will follow my rules.


Erm, no... you don't scare me in the slightest sorry.


They don't know that my people were taken slaves and dumped overboard ships because the whites haave too many. The Whits destroyed many great civilizations by using greed


Not too racist there, since when was it Whites who only took slaves... read some history old chap. If you want a historical arguement then TG me I am more than happy to give you a walloping if you're going to be like that.


I will hunt down Quentulus Qazgar and other slave owning and selling nations and they will be slaves to the UN.


You and whose army?

Of course, if you want to insist on bringing a coalition I am sure my good IC slave owning friends such as Doomingsland and Parthia would be very happy to obilige in smashing you to pieces RR. That is not including the other nations whom call me a friend IC.

I apologise to any mods or other people (other than RR) who found that offensive, but I found what RR wrote to be extremely offensive and totally uninformed, let alone mixing OOC with IC.
Roman Republic
12-05-2005, 20:29
OOC: If you want a war I am more than happy to. I am MT.

But don't you dare mix OOC and IC. I do not have to follow the UN resolutions since I am not in the UN and it's IC not OOC.



Erm, no... you don't scare me in the slightest sorry.



Not too racist there, since when was it Whites who only took slaves... read some history old chap. If you want a historical arguement then TG me I am more than happy to give you a walloping if you're going to be like that.



You and whose army?

Of course, if you want to insist on bringing a coalition I am sure my good IC slave owning friends such as Doomingsland and Parthia would be very happy to obilige in smashing you to pieces RR. That is not including the other nations whom call me a friend IC.

I apologise to any mods or other people (other than RR) who found that offensive, but I found what RR wrote to be extremely offensive and totally uninformed, let alone mixing OOC with IC.


Bring it on. You piece of racist trash. You want to fight. I willing to fight for freedom. And it's the principle, that slave are bad. If you like slave, You can suffer being one.

No you motherfucker, I wasn't mixing IC with OOC. What are you smoking.
Findan
12-05-2005, 20:34
Bring it on. You piece of racist trash. You want to fight. I willing to fight for freedom. And it's the principle, that slave are bad. If you like slave, You can suffer being one.

No you motherfucker, I wasn't mixing IC with OOC. What are you smoking.
The Imperial Land of Findan will support the Roman Republic economically if not militarily.
Foxworth
12-05-2005, 20:41
INCOMING TRANSMISSION
From: Father of the Dominion, Lord Foxworth


The Dominion is willing to pay $5000 per head for the whole lot of women and men. These slaves will be ample food supply fo our people. As Sanguinarians (or Vampyres, as some call us) we need fresh blood to survive. Telegram us so we can arrange shipping and payment.

END OF TRANSMISSION--
Rebeled Elves
12-05-2005, 21:26
Selling Slaves?! why do you do this to these people?LoL.......ok....i want to buy every single one of the slaves you have left.......
Luruar
12-05-2005, 21:32
You want to do a joined strike on slave owning and selling nation. We can both do it.

The Shining Host of Luruar whould be proud to fight for Freedom with your forces
Roman Republic
12-05-2005, 21:36
Anyone want to help me fight for the slaves freedom and completly remove Slavery from The NS vocabulary.
Dratheria
12-05-2005, 21:53
A transmission was sent to all parties wanting to destroy slavery

A large Dratherian appeared on the screen except he looked more like his angelic form one of two types of Dratheriams that can call on the supernatural powers the demonic and angelic formed Dratherians. He was very old but looked rather young. This was Lord Xanatos (http://run4storage.homestead.com/files/Sephiroth_Dark_Winged_Angel.jpg).

I am Lord Xanatos of the Shadow Sun Crime Organization we are the biggest slave traders in the Centurion Galaxy. should you make war on slavers you will have my vast military at your doorstep as well as that of every other slaver that can be contacted. Have a good day.

End Transmission

Transmission to the slavers

Greetings I am Lord Xanatos I will buy every beautiful female slave you have between the ages of 7-30 I will offer $6 trillion for the lot I request. Have a good day.

End Transmission
Rebeled Elves
12-05-2005, 22:04
SECRET MESSAGE TO ROMAN REPUBLIC AND ANYONE WHO REACTS TO THIS BESIDES THEM WILL BE IGNORED!

why do you think i am buying all of the slaves that they got left?I want their freedom just as you do.Once the slaves reach my lands, they will be set free to do what they want.I will also be sending a war mongering party of soldiers to make sure that there will be no more slaves in Quentulus Qazgar though, i also need you to support me in this invasion.But his is not an invasion for land as you know, its for freedom.So if his allies say we are invading him for his lands, we will say, no for his peoples freedom!Now will you help me in this expedition?
Kanuckistan
13-05-2005, 03:00
You want to do a joined strike on slave owning and selling nation. We can both do it.

OOC:
Kanuckistan isn't anti-slaving, per say. Not offically at least; some are for, some against, some think it's a kinky way to spend a two month vacation. It's not illegal, but nor is it common, and in general is the result of a mutually agreeible contract, whereby the enslaved is compensated and released after a predetermined term.

And we're also decidedly futuretech, atleast in most regaurds.

As for the acusation that you're mixing IC and OOC, I strongly urge you to use IC and OOC tags, otherwise you can be ambiguous at times.
Roman Republic
13-05-2005, 03:14
[Human Delivered Message]

To Rebeled Elves:

Thank you for telling me. I will continue to protest for slave freedom. I will fund a sum of money so your country won't be in debt. Go with Krishna, You shall find the light.

Signed,
Dictator Patel

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

OOC:
Kanuckistan isn't anti-slaving, per say. Not offically at least; some are for, some against, some think it's a kinky way to spend a two month vacation. It's not illegal, but nor is it common, and in general is the result of a mutually agreeible contract, whereby the enslaved is compensated and released after a predetermined term.

And we're also decidedly futuretech, atleast in most regaurds.

As for the acusation that you're mixing IC and OOC, I strongly urge you to use IC and OOC tags, otherwise you can be ambiguous at times.

I'm sorry your a future tech nation, I would have love to have you as a coalition member to free the slaves. So do you think I'm Ambitious?? :)
Kanuckistan
13-05-2005, 03:34
I'm sorry your a future tech nation, I would have love to have you as a coalition member to free the slaves. So do you think I'm Ambitious?? :)

Offical Lost Angles Odds Postings:
-Roman Rebublic Coalition: 15%
-Allied Slavers: 25%
-Mutual Ignore: 60%
Ximea
13-05-2005, 03:35
OOC: My nation is modern +1, as they say. Call it 2015-tech. I'm always up for a coalition against slavery. By the way, have you been to this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=417713&page=1&pp=15)?
Madnestan
14-05-2005, 00:09
Roman Republic, remember that when you attack a nation who owns slaves, you will be forced to fight a war. And in that war, most of those slaves will get killed, as they are the cheapest part of the population and they can be sacrifised in extermely dangerous duties, such as neutralizing the minefields...

And countles number of innocent people, in form of childrens and women of the attacked nation and your own soldiers will get slaughtered. So please, think before you sacrifise hundreds of thousands to "liberate" those slaves.

This is not a warning, just a friendly hint. Think about it.

Colonel Tamujid, Minister of Everything
Roman Republic
14-05-2005, 05:53
Roman Republic, remember that when you attack a nation who owns slaves, you will be forced to fight a war. And in that war, most of those slaves will get killed, as they are the cheapest part of the population and they can be sacrifised in extermely dangerous duties, such as neutralizing the minefields...

And countles number of innocent people, in form of childrens and women of the attacked nation and your own soldiers will get slaughtered. So please, think before you sacrifise hundreds of thousands to "liberate" those slaves.

This is not a warning, just a friendly hint. Think about it.

Colonel Tamujid, Minister of Everything


OCC: I'll keep you as a reliable source for my problems. It's just like Morrocco deploying monkeys to detonate mine in Iraq. I will avenger the slaves that were sacrificed. I'm only here to remove the government. If the people interfere, they'll have to be mowed down. I'm here to strike targets of military importance.
Madnestan
14-05-2005, 09:00
OCC: I'll keep you as a reliable source for my problems. It's just like Morrocco deploying monkeys to detonate mine in Iraq. I will avenger the slaves that were sacrificed. I'm only here to remove the government. If the people interfere, they'll have to be mowed down. I'm here to strike targets of military importance.

Yea right, so attackers always say. USA went to Vietnam to liberate it, OOPS! slaughtered some 2 million Vietnamese people and even failed. It went to liberate Iraq-OOPS! war will continue as guerilla warfare for decades to come. Hell, even Hitler claimed that he went to liberate Russians under the communist rule, and everybody know what happened...NO ONE wants to hurt the people, but that cant be avoided. Seriously, if you start a war against nation about the same size/military power as you, and it is about to fight back, your good will is not going to save those civilians and slaves you were about to liberate.
Gryphendor
14-05-2005, 09:25
Encrypted Transmission to Quentulus Qazgar from the Dominion of Gryphendor.

The Dominion of Gryphendor would like to purchase all disease free female slaves between the ages of 16 to 35 and all disease free male slaves between the ages 16 to 35. money will wired from various accounts to yours to avoid unnessecary attention upon delivary of the slaves.

the Dominion of gryphendor thanks you for contacting you on this matter and would seek out future trades of such matter.

a Dominion Crusiar will be stationed in international waters waiting for the slaves codes will be in place to insure the security of everyone.

Foreign Trade and Relations Beaurea
Call to power
14-05-2005, 12:25
open message

Message from: CTP command
to: Roman Republic

We officially join your coalition to fight the great cancer that is slavery

Our forces will be put on high alert and all trade with slaver nations will be severed
Luruar
14-05-2005, 18:13
-2000 foreign females (10-50 years old) - 500$ each (+-200$ depending on the age, fitness, looks and possible diseases)
-3000 foreign males (7-60 years old) - 1000$ each (+-400$ depending on the age, fitness, willingness to hard work and possible diseases)
-5000 animals (not near enough to pure blood to be taken for humans) 1$ each, take away!

What is the nature of the animals?


"For the good of all goody folk"
High Counciler of Luraur
Taern "Thunderspell" Hornblade
Rebeled Elves
15-05-2005, 14:55
The army of 100,000 soldiers, and 100 tanks got ready to march.

"Make sure that the troops leave tomorrow."said the King.
Gryphendor
16-05-2005, 12:07
Gryphendor would like to purchase these slaves alot and would also like to offer military aid to extract the slaves from harm.
Madnestan
20-05-2005, 19:31
The army of 100,000 soldiers, and 100 tanks got ready to march.

"Make sure that the troops leave tomorrow."said the King.

LOLZ! When you make a statement about sending 100,000 troops to somewhere, its always good to say WHERE those troops are going, HOW they are going to move and ON WHOSE SIDE are they going to be.
Dratheria
20-05-2005, 22:11
Transmission to all Anti-slavers

This time Xanatos showed up in full battle gear aboard a starship saying, "Should you wish a war I will give it to you but I should warn you it will only end in your destruction. My race and their technology is far more advanced than anything you pitiful humans currently possess and we would swat you from your skies in a minute and drown your ships easily as well your army would be overrun by our droid tanks. This is my last warning stand down or be destroyed."

End Transmission


OOC There is no rules against a future tech nation waging war against a modern tech nations as far as I am aware and this criminal organization is fully ready to slaughter innocents.
Madnestan
21-05-2005, 15:40
Transmission to all Anti-slavers

This time Xanatos showed up in full battle gear aboard a starship saying, "Should you wish a war I will give it to you but I should warn you it will only end in your destruction. My race and their technology is far more advanced than anything you pitiful humans currently possess and we would swat you from your skies in a minute and drown your ships easily as well your army would be overrun by our droid tanks. This is my last warning stand down or be destroyed."

End Transmission


OOC There is no rules against a future tech nation waging war against a modern tech nations as far as I am aware and this criminal organization is fully ready to slaughter innocents.

OOC: If you think there is no rules against the use FT against MT nations, then you must know that those can use their OWN special weapon too, called the "Ignore Cannon". It is mighty weapon, and should be feared.
Dratheria
21-05-2005, 16:18
OOC Fine then I can RP my MT nation with my Apollos, Arkbirds, and various terrestrial supercarriers
Carops
21-05-2005, 16:51
We are forced to look for new slaves after a slightly national emergency depleted our supply. The people of Carops are a small race and we require slaves and foreign workers to serve in our armed forces and industries so that we can administer our empire. We are quite prepared to defend fellow slave-traders and should the need arise, we will happily assist in any military action required to procure a new source of this "product." We look forward to communication with those who hold our point of view and also look forward to eliminating those who oppose it.
Wertian Aurias Rethmond
Imperial Ministry of Carops
Carops
Gryphendor
22-05-2005, 23:54
Transmission to Quentulus Qazgar

The Dominion of Gryphendor would like to offer it assistance of its army should you need it and we will provide:

by land:70xT-1 Scorpion Battle tanks and 50,000 troops
by air: 30x f-27 haste Stealth fighters and 70 f-31x Cyclone interceptors
by sea: 15x Gryphon III (045c class) Destroyers, 15x Missile submarine (type "seadog") and 4x Aircraft Carriers holding 20x Mig-29m Fulcrums each.

This force will only be deployed if our purchases are in Danger, but we hope that our purchase will go smoothly when the slaves will be relocated to our forces. The slaves will be allowed to work and kept healthy and will benefit from gryphendors education and spiritual programs and we cannot understand why our shipment has not arrived.

-end transmission