NationStates Jolt Archive

*Gets right to the point*
Obviously the boredom of no major wars/events in II has produced such incident as the FC Conflict...oh my god did I just say that!? Anyway, I think we should develop something that's not closed, not FT, not Earth based, pure II. Maybe we should actually plan a WW who knows. All I say is let's pray another FC doesn't happens again (Not the player, the nation) and to do that we need to end the boredom. Any ideas my fellow II players?

*Gets right to the point*
Obviously the boredom of no major wars/events in II has produced such incident as the FC Conflict...oh my god did I just say that!? Anyway, I think we should develop something that's not closed, not FT, not Earth based, pure II. Maybe we should actually plan a WW who knows. All I say is let's pray another FC doesn't happens again (Not the player, the nation) and to do that we need to end the boredom. Any ideas my fellow II players?
Not to ask a dumb question but what is II?

not a dumb question, II=International Incidents

Not to ask a dumb question but what is II?

It is all around you.

*Insert other Matrix quotes here*


International Incidents. This forum.

Well, it has been a long while since the last world war. Unfortunately, there is no cause. The major alliances seem to be dead or dying.

It is all around you.

*Insert other Matrix quotes here*


International Incidents. This forum.

Do you follow the rabbit down the hole or do you wake up, wondering if it was all a dream?(paraphrased, badly) matrix quotes like that you mean?

I think a WW is probably the way to go, just try and prevent MAD orgies, they kinda kill good RP, also non-human nations would have to be recognized by all involved parties, I say this so that I and BMG can participate.

Lets start a new allaince An Anti-Fascist one perhaps.

Well if FC had been more organized it easily could have been the new WW, however it wasn't organized enough. We could plan something alliances aren't nessecary.

Hmm maybe something along the lines of what sparked WWI could spark WW VIII I believe? Correct me if I am wrong wasn't here for them.

CHaracter RP is the way; we should have more nice detailed Character RP...

Well if FC had been more organized it easily could have been the new WW, however it wasn't organized enough. We could plan something alliances aren't nessecary.

Hmm maybe something along the lines of what sparked WWI could spark WW VIII I believe? Correct me if I am wrong wasn't here for them.

Miles out. When I left we were up to XII at least. Possibly XIV or XV

Well, it has been a long while since the last world war. Unfortunately, there is no cause. The major alliances seem to be dead or dying.

I'll assasinate JL if RB will let me, he could fake the assasination or something, I end up killing a body double or whatever, anyway RB has alot of allies, who have alot of allies, etc. I'd need help, but thats what a world war is about isn't it?

Hmm well, maybe we should do a little of both. The WW could be sparked by an intense Character RP, then ________ happens and WW starts?

I'll assasinate JL if RB will let me, he could fake the assasination or something, I end up killing a body double or whatever, anyway RB has alot of allies, who have alot of allies, etc. I'd need help, but thats what a world war is about isn't it?
Jawhol!Jawhol! YES!YES! Brilliant!

We should try and get a war that involves everyone irregardless of tech level. That would be something...

Lol, we'll whoever we would assassinate, I volunteer to lead one size, although my side is small I have a very good plot twist I need to develop.

I actually think DI has a good plan. We could have someone assasinate, or at least attempt to assassinate, someone's leader at a conference of some description. I'll happily provide either the leader or the assassin.

That's right folks, a once in a lifetime opportunity to kill off King James VII.

Lol, we'll whoever we would assassinate, I volunteer to lead one side, although my side is small I have a very good plot twist I need to develop.

Hey man I do the assasinatin so I get to run the show, for a time at least.

Well that can all be discussed later Mini Miehm anyways thanks Mcleod, maybe that is the path we should follow

We would Definitely need a world super power. Mcleod would be good for the assassination

Lol, we'll whoever we would assassinate, I volunteer to lead one size, although my side is small I have a very good plot twist I need to develop.
Both Your and Flaming Souls ideas are simpily brlliant. I would also leade a side. I've got over 4 mil. i my army and could estvbalish temperary cumploury militray service.

I actually think DI has a good plan. We could have someone assasinate, or at least attempt to assassinate, someone's leader at a conference of some description. I'll happily provide either the leader or the assassin.

That's right folks, a once in a lifetime opportunity to kill off King James VII.

I'm doin the killin, like gravio princip of WW1 it's gonna be a tiny nations fault.

I actually think DI has a good plan. We could have someone assasinate, or at least attempt to assassinate, someone's leader at a conference of some description. I'll happily provide either the leader or the assassin.

That's right folks, a once in a lifetime opportunity to kill off King James VII.

I could RP the assassin.

*Looks at the Agency*

Well, in that case, looks like it's either me or RB that's gonna lose a leader. I don't mind, I'll just have to find some obscure cousin of the King to take over the throne.

I'll be totally in this WW, even thought I don't have much allies. If it comes to it, I'll start by somebody trying to invade the Achleonian mainland peninsula or the militarist trespassing on our waters... Or whatever...

Just to say now, and for you to check out, my post number's ain't too big just because I haven't just found any real threads to post in, but my nations is quite big. I'm just making a new map of Achleonia anyways. I have a lot of RP-knowledge from many places elsewhere. I'm better in character RP's thought...

I could RP the assassin.

*Looks at the Agency*
Come on guys, I want to cause a world war, it's practically a rule, tiny nations spark world wars.

Well, in that case, looks like it's either me or RB that's gonna lose a leader. I don't mind, I'll just have to find some obscure cousin of the King to take over the throne.

How about his cousin Charles, Charles has to return eventually you know...

Though Roach-Busters is an excellent choice let's try to list the obvious superpowers of NS who else?

Melkor Unchained
Automagfreek
Praetoina (Got the best navy around I think)
Euroslavia (Very respected)
McLeod


Some Other Choices
Roach-Busters(Due to his alliance size)

Though Roach-Busters is an excellent choice let's try to list the obvious superpowers of NS

Melkor Unchained
Automagfreek
Praetoina (Got the best navy around I think)


[B]Some Other Choices[/b
Roach-Busters(Due to his alliance size)

Whittier, big enough to be a superpower, yeah other than that I got nuthin.

Whittier is not the best choice in my mind.

Come on guys, I want to cause a world war, it's practically a rule, tiny nations spark world wars.

Sorry but the agents at the Agency are good. They get the job done but if you want to hire then to do to, you can.

*Stands in the corner, waving both arms in the air*

Mini Miehm-We've decided so far two world powers should start it as they would gather the most support

McLeod-You um slipped my mind? :p

*Stands in the corner, waving both arms in the air*

*Waves back at McLeod and yells "Add him to the list"*

Whittier is not the best choice in my mind.

I'm just tossin out big nations, gimme a break, most of the superpowers seem to be gone, or otherwise involved.

The Grand Duchy of Tulgary is newly back on the world scene and far from powerful in any regard, but I'm interested in throwing it in at the deep end.

If this is to become a world war, there must be more behind it than a single assassination... existing tensions between involved states, pressures let loose by the assassination (and/or other factors), I think.

I know it's hardly going to revolve around Tulgar in any serious way, but I am looking to figure out which other nation is or was the monarchy that officially dominated our Grand Duchy (our Grand Duke rules on a mandate granted by a foreign monarch whose empire defeated Tulgary over a century ago, but I don't yet have a nation playing that empire). For our part, perhaps the war could spark that empire to try to re-assert its dominance over Tulgary, which is behaving as if it's independent; or perhaps we could have been involved in supporting the assassination in hopes of severing ties with those that used to dominate us.

Maybe I'm over-thinking...

Mini Miehm-We've decided so far two world powers should start it as they would gather the most support

McLeod-You um slipped my mind? :p

That hurts man, truly.

Mini Miehm-We've decided so far two world powers should start it as they would gather the most support

McLeod-You um slipped my mind? :p

Ok, I'll buy that, I'll just have to kill things indiascriminately during the war to make myself feel better.

Seriously though, I'd figured you were already part of the plot, that was mainly for possilbe opposing nations


Tulgary:Good idea maybe we should create a poll later on asking who's plot we should go through with?

How about Gronde and Indra Prime, they're both pretty big and powerful, and I'm pretty sure they've got some allies. Ankhmet, the Horned Rat, Corpsac, JJR, ok that's all I can come up with, for real this time.

So far we have Mcleod, plus I think most of those nations are FT.

Seriously though, I'd figured you were already part of the plot, that was mainly for possilbe opposing nations


Tulgary:Good idea maybe we should create a poll later on asking who's plot we should go through with?

HMM... DE is big enough, maybe we should kill his leader... :sniper: (don't take it too seriously)

How about Gronde and Indra Prime, they're both pretty big and powerful, and I'm pretty sure they've got some allies. Ankhmet, the Horned Rat, Corpsac, JJR, ok that's all I can come up with, for real this time.

All of those nations are FT.

So far we have Mcleod, plus I think most of those nations are FT.

I'm not sure, I just know most of them are early to mid 04 or mid to late 03

So why not go with my idea and have a massive WW featuring all techs...Indra and myself are both ESUS members...we could get them all involved possibly then get GE and some others in....

EDIT: I do not speak for the Entire ESUS, just saying we could possibly drag some in if baited correctly...

All of those nations are FT.

OH, my bad, I just knew they were big, althouigh I think all tech levels should be accepted, what better way to star a truly badass war than destroying a planet or assasinating the emperor of a galaxy spanning empire?

It'd become an ignore fest and then flame war.

So why not go with my idea and have a massive WW featuring all techs...Indra and myself are both ESUS members...we could get them all involved possibly then get GE and some others in....

I like that plan, I'm votin for this guy.

OH, my bad, I just knew they were big, althouigh I think all tech levels should be accepted, what better way to star a truly badass war than destroying a planet or assasinating the emperor of a galaxy spanning empire?

But then how can us humble MT nations get involved. I mean, my stuff is advanced, and kick-ass, but isn't going to take out an FT space-craft.

This definitely has the potential of becoming pretty good, so I'll keep watch over this thread. I could get involved in some way, but one thing that I can't allow is my leader to be assassinated.

So why not go with my idea and have a massive WW featuring all techs...Indra and myself are both ESUS members...we could get them all involved possibly then get GE and some others in....

NO, bad idea. PT VS. MT VS. PMT VS. FT = A crapy RP.

This definitely has the potential of becoming pretty good, so I'll keep watch over this thread. I could get involved in some way, but one thing that I can't allow is my leader to be assassinated.

You can always fool the attempted assasins, or foil the attempt.

This definitely has the potential of becoming pretty good, so I'll keep watch over this thread. I could get involved in some way, but one thing that I can't allow is my leader to be assassinated.

*Orders SpecOps troops to stand down*

Damn it.

Of course, and it'd be great if we could get someone like you involved Euro.

But then how can us humble MT nations get involved. I mean, my stuff is advanced, and kick-ass, but isn't going to take out an FT space-craft.

If they land you can hurt them pretty bad I think, if you don't like that route you could get an ally with FT to provide space defenses.

like I said before, we can't have a FT and MT war, plus I said in the first post we should keep this MT there isn't alot of it anymore besides the earth rps.

NO, bad idea. PT VS. MT VS. PMT VS. FT = A crapy RP.

If anything, the conflict as a whole needs to be made into a "separate but equal" world war, with a "Modern Tech" front, and a different "Future Tech" front. Wars between modern and future can work, but it takes a lot of skill to pull it off, so I'd have to say that for this, modern tech nations stick with war against modern tech nations, and future tech nations do the same.

NO, bad idea. PT VS. MT VS. PMT VS. FT = A crapy RP.

Hey man a big metal stick in the right spot will kill anything, FT or not, I don't care, if a big iron or steel pole is put in the right spot then they're going down.

I did not mean all techs versus all techs...basically what I was implying was a group of WW's within respective tech's that just so happened to be taking place at the same time at various area's of Earth, and the solar system.

Hey man a big metal stick in the right spot will kill anything, FT or not, I don't care, if a big iron or steel pole is put in the right spot then they're going down.

*Hands him metal 2 x 4*

*Points at Imperial Super Star Destroyer*

Off you go.

like I said before, we can't have a FT and MT war, plus I said in the first post we should keep this MT there isn't alot of it anymore besides the earth rps.

but theres too many earth's and they're all so pissy about their rules and participation, FT is pretty much the only way to go if you don't want to be in an earth of some description.

Now that has a lot of potential Flaming Soul, I'll work on a possible plot right now.

*Orders SpecOps troops to stand down*

Damn it.

Nice try. ;)

*Hands him metal 2 x 4*

*Points at Imperial Super Star Destroyer*

Off you go.

*inserts metal two by four into power core after beating a shitload of stormtroopers to death with it* the ISD is destroyed.

but theres too many earth's and they're all so pissy about their rules and participation, FT is pretty much the only way to go if you don't want to be in an earth of some description.

That's the whole point of this war. To prove that MT stuff exists outside of the Earths.

lol@ mcleod

That's the whole point of this war. To prove that MT stuff exists outside of the Earths.

Oh, my misunderstanding at work again.

A massive party!-Character
A nation calls a party, hoping to get dozens of nations to attend, meanwhile hiding a sinister plot the assassination of his most hated rival

War Breaks out-The War
With the assassination of __________ war breaks out on dozens of fronts. The solar system is in chaos, as the world erupts into a chaotic bloodbath.


An attempt at diplomacy
The nation of ____ tries to end this only to pull more nations into the fray. The world truly erupts into a world war never seen before.


The possible plot

I just had an idea, would a rampaging horde of mutated biological weapons set loose upon the world by some rogue nations constitute grounds for a world war?

I'm in, I'm sick of all the MT stuff getting sucked into the Earths (Such a stupid concept if you ask me) and I'd really like to participate in something as large as a world war. It's about time the bigger nations starting throwing their weight around outside of the Earths.

A massive party!-Character
A nation calls a party, hoping to get dozens of nations to attend, meanwhile hiding a sinister plot the assassination of his most hated rival

War Breaks out-The War
With the assassination of __________ war breaks out on dozens of fronts. The solar system is in chaos, as the world erupts into a chaotic bloodbath.


An attempt at diplomacy
The nation of ____ tries to end this only to pull more nations into the fray. The world truly erupts into a world war never seen before.


The possible plot

I like it, can I kill stuff now? ;)

Yes you have fun with your World War ;)

I can see it now. Everything is prepared, the forces are ready to deploy, you are typing up that fresh post and then.... something else happens, and then all of a sudden there is no World War because of that one event. Hm, funny. Yes, EII tried have a World War but I don't see no World War happenin'.

Yes, have fun :P

Yes it may sound rude, but it is true. IIers have ADD for the most part x.x

I'm in, I'm sick of all the MT stuff getting sucked into the Earths (Such a stupid concept if you ask me) and I'd really like to participate in something as large as a world war. It's about time the bigger nations starting throwing their weight around outside of the Earths.

*Blows rally horn* Yes all rally behind me :cool:

*Blows rally horn* Yes all rally behind me :cool:

I'm with this guy.

Wait wait. if your going to start off a W1 type war then dont use the goverment. Use you terroist nations instead of your officals making it more intresting.

Yes you have fun with your World War ;)

I can see it now. Everything is prepared, the forces are ready to deploy, you are typing up that fresh post and then.... something else happens, and then all of a sudden there is no World War because of that one event. Hm, funny. Yes, EII tried have a World War but I don't see no World War happenin'.

Yes, have fun :P

Yes it may sound rude, but it is true. IIers have ADD for the most part x.x

And I have real ADD, I'm offe... ooh a butterfly...

Maybe an alien invasion from another diamension!
Or ultimate MAD scenario! All nations going post-apocalyptic theme!
Or other crazy and no-one-will-accept idea!
Let's waste some space with funny and classic ideas for NS theme ;)

I can also provide a clean, unpopulated forum for the OOC discussion of this...for all techs...if any are interested in taking me up on my offer let me know

I agree completely with Dracun. All the good RPs have moved to Earth threads or become closed and lots of good RPers have gone future tech or moved to the NationStates forum *shudder*.

Perhaps something ideological? Like a wave of hard-line Communist risings across our nations?

i would like a world war, i havent been around during one and i feel like kicking some nazi ass

some UBer RP including as many nations as possible and huge war across the world

Count me in for whatever you need :)

i would like a world war, i havent been around during one and i feel like kicking some nazi ass

some UBer RP including as many nations as possible and huge war across the world

Yeah, its been a long time since my purging of communists.

I mean, er,*runs*

My Forum (http://rpcritics.proboards46.com/index.cgi) and the area for this. It is located at the bottom, please feel free to use it, it has next to no traffic so that it can be organized and easy to access for all.

Another Potential Plot
The nation of _____ has given various speeches promoting communisim/nazisim/whatever else and now throughout the the uprising has commenced, and hardly anyone can stop it. Nations must now band together, forge new alliances, and defeat old ones as a new and brutal world war starts.

Not to seem like a n00b or anything... (i know how RP works and all...) but the thing is how could we set into moderation what each nation itself has, we could just constantly throw troops, jets, ships, ect... at the person with 'no limits'.

I Admit, that im relatively new to Nation States, and not sure if theres has been many IIs and what the 'rules' (if there are any) what they are and what not... but like i was saying how could we moderate and balance the nations (smaller ones would require less men to defend, yet have less offensive capability... or something like that, and the bigger ones have more troops...) but we'd have to set a rule system or something to help us with these various issues, as well as the nation's Tech Level and what not... and what exactly would stop us from changing what we got in the middle of the war, like drastically, IE sticks to Laser Cannons and what not, I understand sbutle changes, like better guidance systems and what not... but how do we moderate/rule this... without having some pre-determined stuff... anyways, I'll see about joining this if this begisn to shape up and what not...

Well I have lists from over a month ago of my entire military force, and some descriptions of the hardware I use. Most people know their military budget, taken from their budget. For more info, read some of Euroslavias stickies and help threads.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8819531#post8819531

The RP pact, lets get some of these moving people :p
and i have some budding alliances to start some contreversy -
The Northern Alliance = NATO

and it dies off....

and it dies off....

for now, just until everybody wakes up again.

I was just about to bump this.

The Two Plots...you have by the end of today (eastern) today post another plot. There will be a poll, once the voting is done, we will have a discussion on how and what will happen.


The nation of _____ has given various speeches promoting communisim/nazisim/whatever else and now throughout the the uprising has commenced, and hardly anyone can stop it. Nations must now band together, forge new alliances, and defeat old ones as a new and brutal world war starts.


***
A massive party!-Character
A nation calls a party, hoping to get dozens of nations to attend, meanwhile hiding a sinister plot the assassination of his most hated rival

War Breaks out-The War
With the assassination of __________ war breaks out on dozens of fronts. The solar system is in chaos, as the world erupts into a chaotic bloodbath.


An attempt at diplomacy
The nation of ____ tries to end this only to pull more nations into the fray. The world truly erupts into a world war never seen before.

An opportunity re your last choice, the party/war thingy. There is gonna be a big bash to celebrate the fiftieth signatory nation of the Temporal Accord. The Assassination can occur there.

Aye, so lets get some people to sign that accord! (it is a good way to bring FT into it)

and its dead again....

But then how can us humble MT nations get involved. I mean, my stuff is advanced, and kick-ass, but isn't going to take out an FT space-craft.

Remember: you're just as dead if shot by an arrow, a bullet, or an acceletated particle matter/antimatter rifle

Too bad I'm a small nation compared to most others... I really want to have my MT national leader bumped off, so I can justify a planned revolution to become more leftist and free (I'm currently pretty fascist)

When should we start? And I RP both MT and FT, which would be better to use?

:sniper: How bout an NATO-Warsaw Pact scencario-the nukes at first. A group of nations form an allaince to band together agianst a fascist/communist/whatever region. something the nazui/commies try to attack a defenselless region and the our anti commie/nazi pact guys move in to protect the region, other nation join either side for veyoiopus reaseons like one of thier merchies get sunk by the ant-commie/nazi pact and joins the commie/nazis for r3evenge hows that sound. :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5:

Remember: you're just as dead if shot by an arrow, a bullet, or an acceletated particle matter/antimatter rifle
Not if you're wearing a quintoadamantium vest with validiumite-composite inserts and the accelerated particle rifle was fired from orbit at someone wearing chainmail.

Not if you're wearing a quintoadamantium vest with validiumite-composite inserts and the accelerated particle rifle was fired from orbit at someone wearing chainmail.

That's what castles are for ;) Plus, those trebuchets can hit orbital instillations... lol


very true, that's why we need to have FT, MT, and PT on both sides, so no one's screwed over

An opportunity re your last choice, the party/war thingy. There is gonna be a big bash to celebrate the fiftieth signatory nation of the Temporal Accord. The Assassination can occur there.


Good idea. Assasinations start major wars (ie. WW1). But which nation/pact will it occur in? Also, to say, that I am interested in participating in an NS WW. I am sorry to say, that right now I don't have any ideas. I will think of some tmwr.

Good idea. Assasinations start major wars (ie. WW1). But which nation/pact will it occur in? Also, to say, that I am interested in participating in an NS WW. I am sorry to say, that right now I don't have any ideas. I will think of some tmwr.

I want someone to bump off my national leader so I can justify a revolution, but I'm not really deep enough in multiple alliances to cause much of a domino effect (Just the WTO and the GE)